MUSIC DIRECTOR REACTS | Meshuggah - Bleed - Tomas Haake - Wincent Drumsticks

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DrumRollTony Reacts

DrumRollTony Reacts

Жыл бұрын

This one took my mind and 😵😲🤘
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@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
⏩ Does anyone have a lead sheet for this? My mind is reeling. I don't have the brain power how epic this is For live content catch me on Twitch. www.twitch.tv/drumrolltony
@hosoi1158
@hosoi1158 Жыл бұрын
I don’t have the lead sheet but i know the opening pattern is crash 8th notes, snare on 2, and the kick pattern is 2 32nd notes 2 16th notes repeating.
@g3force782
@g3force782 Жыл бұрын
Watch this song analysis video by Yogev Gabay kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5TWcnSGma-HeKc
@yamete_kudasai6969
@yamete_kudasai6969 Жыл бұрын
Please react to "THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL" From Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance
@benceabraham4909
@benceabraham4909 Жыл бұрын
and its 4/4 all along man :D fkin fire xD.....4/4 all along with the same tempo get into Meshuggah, cause you'll surely enjoy it
@martinglmmi784
@martinglmmi784 Жыл бұрын
Check out «time consuming» with Yogev Gaveb (?)He does brakedowns of lots of Shuggah stuff. Dude can count 😅
@jbank7547
@jbank7547 Жыл бұрын
this is the most well-coordinated band in the world. to be able to play this so well at a concert is a feat of nature.
@DevilWearsAdidas
@DevilWearsAdidas Жыл бұрын
Polyphia is too. There's tons of times where the drummer pauses for a moment and picks back up with the band. Happens a lot in GOAT. Dream theatre would be another one.
@blueravine
@blueravine Жыл бұрын
@@DevilWearsAdidas I mean I like Polyphia a lot... but they're not even remotely close to the same level of Meshuggah.
@knightbun
@knightbun 11 ай бұрын
How about Necrophagist
@fuzzythoughts8020
@fuzzythoughts8020 10 ай бұрын
Gojira are also truly insane irl, Mario Duplantier is a drumming machine.
@sorbpen
@sorbpen 10 ай бұрын
@@blueravine apparently Meshuggas writing process is they compose in midi, and then see if it's even possible to learn to play. Thomas said this song took as much time to nail as all the other tracks on the album combined. Mostly because he had to unlearn his previous blast-beat style and adopt this sholess tippety toe effective style instead. To be able to do that at his age show extreme neural plasticity, he is breaking some of his core muscle memories for one song... Now that's a man that likes to learn!
@yolandria
@yolandria Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Tomas had to relearn how to play just for this song. Took him about 6 months.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Well damn. That makes me feel better on losing track of the ending segments. This is wild
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
@@yolandria I didn't remove anything
@yolandria
@yolandria Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts Not saying you did. KZbin is retarded at times
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
@@yolandria....
@hejsacarlsen4255
@hejsacarlsen4255 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get that fact? I don`t belive it. Then it should be caused by an injury or something
@usainwult2414
@usainwult2414 Жыл бұрын
If you liked this one, I think you'll like Tomas Haake's drum playthrough of their song "Clockworks" too. It's a studio version and is equally as impressive. Just seeing you go "what the hell" from time to time is really fun to see, as it makes me recall the first time I saw this. Loved your reaction in this one!
@magusmelanie828
@magusmelanie828 Жыл бұрын
Clockworks is easily one of my faves
@Therealchrist
@Therealchrist Жыл бұрын
Thirding this. The Clockworks drum playthrough is great
@Shablagoo7861
@Shablagoo7861 Жыл бұрын
Yeah clockworks or nostrum! Pleassssee
@seanaustin9971
@seanaustin9971 Жыл бұрын
Clockworks and Nostrum
@Scott-dz4cs
@Scott-dz4cs 11 ай бұрын
Clockworks and Nostrum are SICK!!!!!
@r-tunes8652
@r-tunes8652 Жыл бұрын
When you asked at 5:33 about what the Herta's pattern is 16ths: 7 - 5 - 3 - 5- 7 This is the pattern played with the feet, the first 16th of each herta is 2 32nd notes, the rest is just 16ths. It adds up to playing herta's in 27/16 with the feet while the hands are playing in 4/4.
@girlpowerstation
@girlpowerstation 8 ай бұрын
it seems like 75357 but it actually starts a 7 before that and ends on the second 5 so it is actually 77535 and just sounds like 75357 due to the seemingly palindrome-like pattern
@MrMvidz
@MrMvidz Жыл бұрын
2 of the guys grew up in same small town as I do, and we have mutual friends as I'm at their age. Very soft and humble dudes, but kick ass musicians even back in high school.
@WebsterA
@WebsterA Жыл бұрын
Not many people focus on the shifting patterns. It was nice to see you pick up on that and find it interesting! I hope you do some more, man!
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
I'll definitely do more.
@sorbpen
@sorbpen Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts I might be wrong but I'm also no drummer, but from what I've gleaned from an interview with hake, and by analyzing the patterns of the guitar witch i have tried to play. There are no variations it's the same "brta" through the whole song. Listen again when DrumRollTony reacts there is no variation. There is however variations in the pattern with the brtas maybe that's what you meant?
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
@@sorbpen Are you trying to say herta but spelling it brta? I have no clue, I listened to this once 2 weeks ago. At this point I don't remember what I said at all but it was for whatever I was hearing real time at that moment. I remember a nice polyrhtym that had impressive stamina and there are some metric tickles. The pattern would become significantly easier to interalize on multiple listens. Ill get around to it at some point.
@vaettra1589
@vaettra1589 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts brrta brrta brrta is from the Bill Burr meme.
@charleswind8298
@charleswind8298 8 ай бұрын
Can’t get past the screaming. It’s nauseating
@morbidboy77
@morbidboy77 Жыл бұрын
According to the documentary on this band and this particular album and this song, it took Tomas around 6 months to be able to play this song live and he is the one that wrote it. The level of skill, technicality, virtuosity of the instrument, composition, musicality and synchronization with other musicians in the band is insane. The first time I have heard this song I was floored. The level of precision and accuracy from each and every member of the band is unsurpassed.
@slovenanzulovic37
@slovenanzulovic37 Жыл бұрын
Bleed was written solely by Frederik Thorendal (lead guitarist).
@morbidboy77
@morbidboy77 Жыл бұрын
@@slovenanzulovic37 thank you. I was not aware. I assumed the drummer would write the drum track.
@jbrassic5434
@jbrassic5434 Жыл бұрын
@@morbidboy77 Nah he writes most of the lyrics. They all have a hand in every aspect of the songwriting process, it's amazing.
@jbrassic5434
@jbrassic5434 Жыл бұрын
@@morbidboy77 Their album Catch Thirty Three is all programmed drums. Nothing played/recorded, all samples. They tend to write a lot of the tracks that way to start with, but that album they chose not to record drums.
@logannewman4532
@logannewman4532 Жыл бұрын
On several occasions I've heard Thomas Hake described as "your favorite drummer's favorite drummer".
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
I believe that. This turned my head into mash potatoes
@fubar1217
@fubar1217 Жыл бұрын
I know both Tosin Abasi and Matt Garstka from Animals As Leaders are big Meshuggah fans so there's definitely truth to that.
@michaelkozma5929
@michaelkozma5929 Жыл бұрын
Meshuaggah was 20 years ahead of its time. 100% Best Metal band you will ever see Live. It's like experiencing a Religious awakening. Great reaction, check out the song "Future Breed Machine"
@KingCatoChaos
@KingCatoChaos Жыл бұрын
No one beside or above. Like a wall of sound and lights exploding from the stage. I've seen them 11 times and will continue to do so whenever I get the chance.
@CyberChunk77
@CyberChunk77 7 ай бұрын
Technique-wise 100% I still prefer Enslaved for a fun show.
@m.ericwatson968
@m.ericwatson968 Жыл бұрын
I first heard this with a close friend of mine since high school, he is a drummer, a damn good too for 30+ years, can play any Slayer song (Lombardo) note for chart note; we heard this and he was so blown away he had to go into his jam room and try to figure out this rhythm, and he did, it took a couple hours, but the difference between the bass drum triplet shift and the half-time snare/hat cadence kept throwing him off, he was so pissed, but he kept up until he figured it out...jazz level drumming, truly, albeit metronome perfect cadence
@OzLeedsCrew
@OzLeedsCrew Жыл бұрын
Straight up, watching them live feels like a portal in spacetime will open up at any moment \m/\m/
@davidjustis6470
@davidjustis6470 Жыл бұрын
Dude the live lighting director needs a raise, the strobes matching up everywhere is nuts lol!!!!! I'm assuming there's a click track which the lights are programmed with maybe? This is nuts how good it is
@MDHaughton
@MDHaughton Жыл бұрын
MIDI, it's not just for keyboards.
@maddo7192
@maddo7192 Жыл бұрын
The light is handeled by the drummers cousin. They got it figuered out 👍
@Poepopdestoep
@Poepopdestoep Жыл бұрын
All the lights are pre-programmed.
@snah70
@snah70 10 ай бұрын
@@maddo7192 That used to be true, but not anymore. Now it's done by Edvard Hansson (and has been for quite some time). Check out his KZbin channel for plenty of great Meshuggah lighting stuff, like this concert video, for instance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXnXZGhnfL-Jh68
@subsume7904
@subsume7904 8 ай бұрын
The lighting is actually played live by an engineer, check it out it looks like he's playing keyboard on a laptop.
@Predilus
@Predilus 11 ай бұрын
The surgeons of metal, they massacre my mind into small fragments every single time. Layers over layers and all very tight and coherent.
@christiannystrom1120
@christiannystrom1120 Жыл бұрын
cant wait to see them live in 2.5 weeks. gonna be mindblowing :D
@mikefm4
@mikefm4 Жыл бұрын
How was it?
@jleighwolfe
@jleighwolfe Жыл бұрын
Ive heard this song prob hundreds of times, yet youve helped me listen to it with fresh ears. Thanks
@Wookash666
@Wookash666 Жыл бұрын
Dude if you liked this, meshuggah has track called I. Pure 21 minutes of non repeatable variations of riffs 🔥🔥🔥
@JakobStrand
@JakobStrand Жыл бұрын
Most Meshuggah songs are in 4/4 or rarely 6/4. Their amazing syncopation and poly-rythm compositions makes the songs sound quite complicated. One of my favourite bands for many years :D
@_mnejing
@_mnejing Жыл бұрын
You can find 4/4 through this whole song. It's absolutely right that the polys and syncopations mess with your head, and finding 1 means looking in unexpected places.
@drunkship12
@drunkship12 Жыл бұрын
Classic Meshuggah fan comment
@bruth6138
@bruth6138 15 күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices this. There is so much stuff out there about Meshuggah's crazy time signatures. Most of their stuff is totally 4/4 with Tomas just doing 1/4 notes on the high hat the entire time. Its all about the accents and polyrhythm.
@Eam0ndo
@Eam0ndo 10 ай бұрын
Just so happy to see meshuggah getting the praise they deserve after so many years. I first heard them in 2004 when I was 14 and played in a metal band in our local pub in Ireland and when we did soundcheck this other older band came in with meshuggah t-shirts on and n blew everyone away so I went home checked on limewire who meshuggah were and that was that.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts 10 ай бұрын
Lime wire, let's go!
@Eam0ndo
@Eam0ndo 10 ай бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts the good old days :L
@adelvoid1530
@adelvoid1530 Жыл бұрын
they are S-tier stuff... one in a billion.
@dregnar85
@dregnar85 Жыл бұрын
I can tap most Meshuggah songs with my feet and hands through years of dedicated listening and boredom... but dont ask me about time sigs, i do not know 😄
@ayandey137
@ayandey137 2 ай бұрын
No flair no flamboyance, pure technical attack
@shanegriffin2215
@shanegriffin2215 Жыл бұрын
Thus is completely over the top insanity. I can’t even count as the time just is so fluid though-out this song. Tomas is a complete beast. I LOVE this song.
@ssjsergei
@ssjsergei Жыл бұрын
Well... Let's go 🔥 I wasn't expecting this... You listened to Meshuggah before than I thought. As always, great reaction, love to see how you appreciate the music so much 🙌🏻
@REIDOPLANETA
@REIDOPLANETA 5 ай бұрын
Meshuggah live is life altering, even if you're not a fan. It's a must for everyone.
@spikegifted
@spikegifted Жыл бұрын
Don't know you folks notice them or not, but he has double high-hats - one on each side! Awesome! Talk about ergonomics.
@Denashi
@Denashi Жыл бұрын
He has three! One on the left and two on the right (one closed and one open).
@magusmelanie828
@magusmelanie828 Жыл бұрын
Clockworks is probably a better drumming video of Meshuggah's, and possibly a lot more tasty drumming tbh - the footwork for Bleed is of course unparalleled
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Sounds like i need to do that one next
@magusmelanie828
@magusmelanie828 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts do it *Ben stiller in starsky and hutch meme*
@Micas099
@Micas099 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts You'd really enjoy the Clockworks video. It really is exceptional.
@jonathanhenderson9422
@jonathanhenderson9422 Жыл бұрын
Awesome thing about Meshuggah is that there's always a 4/4 groove happening somewhere underneath all the other crazy metric stuff, and the crazy metric stuff eventually ends up synching back up with the 4/4.
@Deathyman
@Deathyman Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly this song is transitioning from 4/4 to 6/4 every other measure in the beginning. -edit After attempting to count it like another 20 times I'm doubting myself. New Millennium Cyanide Christ is a good example of a straight 4/4 they do though that doesn't feel 4/4.
@AtticsTV
@AtticsTV Жыл бұрын
@@Deathyman The song is entirely in 4/4. There is the one section where the snare picks up that is a 3:2 polyrhythm between the snare and the cymbal, but its still in 4/4. It jsut feels off because the rest of the band plus the kick patterns are sooooo syncopated that it can be hard to find the 4/4 in every phrase.
@tcellen2136
@tcellen2136 3 ай бұрын
If you get his Toontrack EZ drummer library, you get his exact drums sounds for triggering plus the entire drum part in MIDI so you can slow down and practice with theexact album sounds. It's pure hell/joy ;-)
@thisusedtobemyrealname7876
@thisusedtobemyrealname7876 Жыл бұрын
A brave effort to make sense of a meshuggah song on your first listen. It cannot be done but kudos to you for trying! :)
@Raptor717
@Raptor717 10 ай бұрын
Love your take on this gem Tony!
@Jaageful
@Jaageful Жыл бұрын
I wish they had a singer at the same level as the rest of the band.
@BURNALUCARD
@BURNALUCARD Жыл бұрын
Everytime I hear this song, I know it isn't what it's about but the tone and sound and the way the music seems to move always paints this image of a collosal snake just slithering through a city, demolishing buildings passively as it goes.
@Bloborus
@Bloborus 10 ай бұрын
Pretty accurate, it's about a brain aneurysm
@cofi45
@cofi45 Жыл бұрын
First time on your channel. Great reaction bro. Cheers from Serbia 🇷🇸
@zacharyjohnson5569
@zacharyjohnson5569 6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite song to watch musical instructors or producers, etc. react to. I love seeing people truly appreciate how fucking crazy this song is.
@targetbuddy5
@targetbuddy5 Жыл бұрын
I JUST now realized that the last section of the song is the same guitar and bass drum rhythmic pattern as the opening but without the anchoring 4/4 hi-hat and snare. Holy shit these guys are incredible
@Retseadog
@Retseadog Жыл бұрын
You haven’t even seen Tomas at his best. Bleed was written by their lead guitarist, Fredrik. It isn’t even a top 30 Meshuggah track for me, they’re just so consistently good. Definitely check out Nostrum, Clockworks, Phantoms, Stengah, Electric Red, Swarm. Any track that Tomas writes on is just mind blowing.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Sweet, thx for the suggestions
@countbleck35
@countbleck35 Жыл бұрын
fredrik also originally asked gene hoglan to play bleed on a side project before taking it to meshuggah
@ambassadortourettes753
@ambassadortourettes753 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts Chaos Sphere Chaos Sphere Chaos Sphere Chaos Sphere Chaos Sphere ☝️🙄 Nothing beats what they did on that album 🙄 Makes this stuff seem bloody boring
@tasossimmons8274
@tasossimmons8274 Жыл бұрын
Lets put behind the sun too
@42k78
@42k78 Жыл бұрын
Electric Red is in my top 5 for sure. Also Lathargica, Don't Look Down, Ivory Tower, the ending of catch 33... so good.
@muchidromedary.7368
@muchidromedary.7368 5 ай бұрын
Can we appreciate the lighting guy for a minute too.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts 5 ай бұрын
Hell yea
@tbakedtimmi
@tbakedtimmi Жыл бұрын
Great reaction to bleed Thomas hey-key is nuts.. the band is a polyrhythmic phenomenon.. respect!! 🤘 💯💯
@theeviljames
@theeviljames 6 ай бұрын
Love how I can see the "awesome", that I'm feeling in the music, writ large in your smile :) I love me the math, but gotta just vibe on this
@theKONGSONGS
@theKONGSONGS 10 ай бұрын
Your Explanatory-Knowledge Is Next-Level!!
@g3force782
@g3force782 Жыл бұрын
Finally you reacted to Meshuggah's Bleed!
@gideonhorn5560
@gideonhorn5560 Жыл бұрын
If you don't know them, do yourself a favour and go see them live! I've seen 1000s of shows and this band is likely my favourite live. Their lighting engineer seems like part of the band and hoooooly fuck the light show is beyond phenomenal!!
@Kuplung57
@Kuplung57 Жыл бұрын
Best reaction so far. I enjoyed it.
@alispie
@alispie Жыл бұрын
I love being in crowds for proggy shit like this. The only crowds that can more or less clap in time lol.
@Edymos1000
@Edymos1000 Жыл бұрын
Iirc there's 3 variations in that herta rhythm on the double kick. The 3rd variation is when you commented on it. There's a video where he talks about learning the limb independence to keep the rhythm consistent and it's fascinating
@sevendeep
@sevendeep Жыл бұрын
I went to quite a few of the shows on Tool's Lateralus tours in 2001-2002. When the song Triad came up, they'd cart out a smaller drum kit or roto tom/percussion rig for the opening band's drummer to play along with Danny Carey. Dave Lombardo and John Stanier, both amazing drummers in their own right, lent a serviceable vibe to the song, but Thomas kept up with, and even pushed Danny further, going off script trading fours and eights. Won't ever forget it.
@esraed7868
@esraed7868 Жыл бұрын
This is the best reaction on this channel so far.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Lol how I basically added no value and just sat in amazement. 😅 I'd say it's one of my worst
@esraed7868
@esraed7868 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts it's so genuine. I can tell your mind got blown away.
@drone6675
@drone6675 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a drummer, not a musician, but Pravus is another one that has a really great live show video. The lighting producer is insane, I keep seeing comments that the band considers him a fifth (maybe? Dono) member of the band. They do the same kind of thing with the Clockworks official video, where each “scene” follows a different instrument’s beat (or something. Again, not a musician). Excellent video. It makes me feel things.
@WishMount
@WishMount Жыл бұрын
Just when you think you get Matt Garstka figured out you find Thomas Haake and you just give up.
@PresidentScrooge
@PresidentScrooge 11 ай бұрын
As Bill Burr said. Tomas Haake is the drummer your favourite drummers fanboy over. (paraphrased)
@logannewman4532
@logannewman4532 Жыл бұрын
This is almost been memed to death but Bill Burr describing seeing this song performed live is hilarious and wonderful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/foSckKNtr7N0ibM
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve Жыл бұрын
His description of this band was actually what got me to finally check them out...I'd been aware of them for a while, but never actually checked them out. His description was so wild I was like "goddamn, I have to check that shit out" and now I can't get enough.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 Жыл бұрын
Every time this clip comes up, I always tell myself "...I swear this is the best Bill Burr moment of all time...", then I remember how many times I've said that about his stuff...
@PhoenixDecim
@PhoenixDecim Жыл бұрын
Now I really want him to react to one of Vildhjarta's tracks haha
@joshuabailey7246
@joshuabailey7246 9 ай бұрын
They say when he landed, he showed the Egyptians proper math
@christerfurberg6538
@christerfurberg6538 Жыл бұрын
It's the same 4/4 throughout the whole song, they are just very good at hiding it by stacking confusing stuff on top :) Apart from the hihat and snare (that sometimes leave the main beat), the singer always follows the straight pulse
@Deathyman
@Deathyman Жыл бұрын
Isn't it rotating between 6/4 and 4/4 at the beginning? edit After attempting to count it like another 20 times I'm doubting myself. New Millennium Cyanide Christ is a good example of a straight 4/4 they do though that doesn't feel 4/4.
@christerfurberg6538
@christerfurberg6538 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathyman I could definitely be wrong, but Haake said in an interview that they write most (all?) of their music on the computer in 4/4, everythig else is just patterns on top. The band members then use the computer tracks to learn the songs.
@benceabraham4909
@benceabraham4909 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathyman its 4/4 all along...the same tempo
@pasticle
@pasticle 16 күн бұрын
9:26 when the rhythm so good you just gotta stroke it in 27/16
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts 16 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@jvon3885
@jvon3885 Жыл бұрын
When I see those marathon stickers on ppls cars in the Kroger parking lot I'm reminded that Thomas Haake does this day in and day out. Maybe he needs one of those on his window.
@davidelmquist8670
@davidelmquist8670 Жыл бұрын
Don't miss the drum playthrough of Nostrum and Clockworks!
@jackie_lynn69
@jackie_lynn69 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone mention it, but the lead guitarist Fredrik Thordendal is using like a breathalyzer midi thing and that’s why he’s making all those cool noises and solos with the guitar. A great example to hear it would be on the track Future Breed Machine, off their album Destroy Erase Improve.
@rmdoucet123
@rmdoucet123 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of djent. Periphery just released a new album “djent is not a genre” they have a new drum playthrough.
@copperlobo2536
@copperlobo2536 Жыл бұрын
I feel like certain songs are written for other people in the industry and not necessarily for the fans... this song is on that list. The drums and bass have it on lockdown!
@matsmcmats
@matsmcmats Жыл бұрын
The fans love this track though?
@maddo7192
@maddo7192 Жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of theirs since 2004. I like all their stuff.
@ults1
@ults1 Жыл бұрын
Here's all the variations (by the way it's all 4/4 except there's one 2/4 bar between the first 2 verses): First verse: ooo-o (3/8) Second verse: ooo-o-o-o (5/8) After this I use these verses in [brackets] as an alternative way of showing the rhythm Before "chorus": ooo-o (3/8) but the 4/4 backbeat changes to 3/8 as well [3] "Chorus": Da-da-ooo-o-da-da-ooo-o-ooo-o-da-ooo-o [Da-da-3-da-da-3-3-da-3] Repeated but the notes on da-da go in groups of 4 so the melody shifts around the rhythm By the way trying to tap the 4/4 pulse to the rhythm of this is a fun challenge! After chorus: ooo-o-o-o-o-o-ooo-o-o-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o-o- [7-5-3-5] Think of it as groups of 7, 5 and 3 and 5. That just repeats for 32 bars with a melody change in the middle I think and then the next section Bridge 1 ooo-o-ooo-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o [3-3, 3-3-3-o] (extra 8 note) Bridge 2 ooo-o-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o, (ooo-o-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o, ooo-o-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o) [3-o, 3-3-3-o, (3-o, 3-3-3-o, 3-o, 3-3-3-o, 3-3-3-o)] Repeated pattern is in parentheses Solo ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o, ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-ooo-o-o [3-3-3-o, 3-3-3-3-o] groups of 3 hertas and 4 hertas, but every X repeat there's a group of 6 I think, just because After solo it's just the "After chorus" part without melody, and after that back to the first verse with a 3/4 feel (but it's still 4/4)
@XViTNg
@XViTNg Жыл бұрын
Yeah I love how throughout the song - the bass drum pattern is similar - but it shifts around underneath the hats and snare. Almost like if it were on a computer - you could copy the bass drum pattern and paste it randomly underneath the back beat In different positions.
@eyemoeba
@eyemoeba Жыл бұрын
i believe that that is essentially the approach they use to create some of their stuff, and often not programmed by a drummer, so that working it out as a piece to play with 4 limbs becomes the challenge. and then you have to learn how to play it well enough to gig..... the reactor here said he wasn't smart enough to listen to it, and that is about right. noone is. tomas has -by his will and determination to his art- learnt how to play it but you feel he is flying by the seat of his pants and the whole thing is about to come crashing down around him. thankfully he's done his homework.
@briananderson2591
@briananderson2591 Жыл бұрын
This song is always fun to figure out where the 1 is lol!
@Ewright85
@Ewright85 Жыл бұрын
Tomas is the master at playing all the polyrhythms under a 4/4 time signature. I fully believe he’s the only one who tops Danny Carey from Tool
@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq
@RicardoMartinez-oh9sq 6 ай бұрын
The drummer is playing polyrhrhythms, the most amazing and difficult rhythms to play. This is Kurt Gödel scientific music.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts 6 ай бұрын
Hertas are not the most difficult polyrhythm to play 😅
@The-One-and-Only
@The-One-and-Only Жыл бұрын
reminds me of Set to Fail by Lamb of God
@stephenriley431
@stephenriley431 Жыл бұрын
No one except for Tomas is “smart enough” for this. I’ve been analyzing this band since 1997
@eggheadjibar3264
@eggheadjibar3264 Жыл бұрын
It’s a steady groove in 4/4 all the way through. Even though the guitar patterns might seem like they repeat in an odd timing, they are actually just flowing around a solid 4/4 framework. Think of it like: the “patterns” are just different parts of a greater rhythmic phrase. The phrases are usually quite long (some more than 20 bars). But it all groves in 4.
@Chilipotamus
@Chilipotamus Жыл бұрын
It's always funny pointing that out to folks. It just shows more of the genius of this track, you can modulate basics to a point of deep complexity. You don't need five different time signature changes to flex your chops if you know how to play around with the tools you've been drilling since day one
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
​@@Chilipotamus so funny
@gSWG3R
@gSWG3R Жыл бұрын
Not exactly a steady groove though. There are sections in which there isn't an obvious quarter-note pulse.
@juzkahmusic7573
@juzkahmusic7573 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, there is only RLR-L hertas through the whole song with feet. Not a single LRL-R. Repeating feet variations go like (32th notes@115bpm): 0:02 RLR-L- 1:45 RLR-L-R-L- (with 6x RLR-L- 2:26 ) 2:42 RLR-L- 3:17 R+++R+++RLR-L-R+++R+++RLR-L-RLR-L-R+++RLR-L- 4:48 Tomas just drops extra left kicks for the upper pattern to every blank 16-note, because why not 5:04 RLR-L-R-L-R-L-RLR-L-R-L-R-L-RLR-L-R-L-RLR-L-RLR-L-R-L- (called 5-5-3-1-3 part, or 7-7-5-3-5) 6:40 RLR-L-RLR-L+++++RLR-L-RLR-L-RLR-L-R+++++ 6:56 RLR-L-R+++++RLR-L-RLR-L-RLR-L-R+++++RLR-L-R+++++RLR-L-RLR-L-RLR-L-R+++++RLR-L-RLR-L-RLR-L-R+++++ End has two variations which I don't remember correctly, but has similar ideas and last is same as first. These feet patterns are not really that hard, but when you try to add hands over these, you die inside. Then you should only be able to do that almost 8 minutes in a row and wish you don't have to amputate your legs because of exhaustion after that "small" herta exercise.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Your last paragraph is the main point of my appreation for what he does here. Truly impressive 👏
@juzkahmusic7573
@juzkahmusic7573 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts Agree. One of the key point people miss in this video is how relaxed Tomas plays this through. He looks like he is having a family dinner even though he blasts these hertas 8 minutes in a row - not like this is a world record deadlift. That's the point every musician should learn from this video.
@unholymunk
@unholymunk Жыл бұрын
What I have found with this song is his snare is always pretty much on the 3, except for after the break, where each snare is the count and the double bass is the pattern thats being repeated....
@DzeiEidz
@DzeiEidz Жыл бұрын
For more drum Herta-pattern goodness check out Gojira - Into the storm.
@Retseadog
@Retseadog 10 ай бұрын
Need another Shuggah reaction big dog
@snefansson
@snefansson Жыл бұрын
Hawkeh is close to the pronunciation for his surname... if anyone is curious
@JohnSmith-nm1jk
@JohnSmith-nm1jk Жыл бұрын
The third variation of the basic rhythm goes like 5 5 3 1 3 (counting the "tas" between "takatas")
@dngitbobby
@dngitbobby Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the gateway drug for djent. Only tip of the iceberg of an amazing and under appreciated genre.
@morganshibby8941
@morganshibby8941 Жыл бұрын
Meshuggah isn't djent, they didn't want to create a genre and never did on purpose, other bands got influenced and took some part to create djent. When you listen to these bands and Meshuggah, they sound very different in fact
@seanaustin9971
@seanaustin9971 Жыл бұрын
Not a gateway song at all to meshuggah or anything similar. I believe in an interview Tomas haake stated he had to re- learn how to play drums because of this song
@tamasostrolucky7109
@tamasostrolucky7109 Ай бұрын
Geteway drug to djent??? I'd say Meshuggah is a way out of those meaningless generic shit.
@farliebaladraf9901
@farliebaladraf9901 3 ай бұрын
MORE MESHUGGAH
@zealobiron
@zealobiron Жыл бұрын
Love how obvious it is when he started really trying to grove. Thinking the drum part was still the same. Then he heard it... an almost relentless morph of a clinic on how to make small kick changes throughout the verses. Not sure if he realized it though. Edit: Around 6 min mark he realized it
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Lol
@zealobiron
@zealobiron Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts maybe I should've said acknowledged it. Seems like you heard it right of the bat and knew it, but just kept jamming! I tend to comment as stuff comes to mind and end up editing a lot lol
@sebastiangreen1030
@sebastiangreen1030 Жыл бұрын
Clockworks from them....another one for you...nice reaction man
@KidsuneKirax
@KidsuneKirax Жыл бұрын
In case you haven't been linked to it already, Yogev Gabay has made an incredible video describing and dissecting the rhythm of Bleed - or at least attempting to kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5TWcnSGma-HeKc
@SauceBoss69
@SauceBoss69 Жыл бұрын
You are going to love Tessaract.
@dusermiginte4647
@dusermiginte4647 Жыл бұрын
🤘🤯🤘
@GodlessFiend
@GodlessFiend Жыл бұрын
Abysmal eye next PLZ, and yes there’s a video to it too, PLEEEEEEASE
@aworldwithinamoose
@aworldwithinamoose Жыл бұрын
Check out the drum cam for Clockworks by Meshuggah. It melted my brain.
@planetgame779
@planetgame779 Жыл бұрын
Tomas Haake - Stengah Drum Cam!!
@maudjito
@maudjito 9 ай бұрын
Summing it all up: * All of their songs from a certain point of their career till now are 4/4. All songs, all the way. So no time signature changes. * The guitar riff which the kicks follow either cycles around the 4/4 beats without resetting, or is cut off at the end of 4 bars to restart, or has a fill (breaking the pattern) to match the reset. * At the solo section, the riff goes 333 222 111 1, 333 222 111 333 3, 222 111 333 3, 222 111 333 222 2, 111 333 222 2, 111 333 222 111 1, repeats. But at the end of the super-meter it changes to match the reset, usually repeating the previous pattern or extending the current one. Loved your style of reacting and analyzing the song. Playing it right straight of the bat is nice, and when I started to miss your history with the band and song you explained it in one of the pauses. I also like how you go back 5 or 10 to listen to parts again.
@Mozgodrobil
@Mozgodrobil Жыл бұрын
As a drummer I think you might appreciate Clockworks and or Monstrocity from Meshuggah. Yeah, I can definitely see that
@DragonPhlyy
@DragonPhlyy Жыл бұрын
Brand new Nemophila song RISE just released and it’s total fire!
@necromacro694
@necromacro694 Жыл бұрын
Consider listening to LEPROUS - The Sky Is Red (Drum Playthrough by Baard Kolstad)
@Deeprooves
@Deeprooves Жыл бұрын
check out "Alex Rudinger of The Faceless playing Xenochrist"
@markwyman6753
@markwyman6753 6 ай бұрын
Dude, 'REACTS' as in you've never heard this song before? Have you heard Meshuggah before? Your head-bobbing was on-point from the start. These dudes undulate grooves~
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts 6 ай бұрын
I had only heard the song that Bluecoats did of theirs in the lot. 'Beneath the Vortex' I definitely heard this song in passing before but never an active listening
@zealobiron
@zealobiron Жыл бұрын
I wish I found musicians that wanted to excel like this when I spent years learning and writing. Gave up when I kept getting told by people who only understand traditional song structure, that one of my songs could be taken apart and made into an album. It was a compliment and a slight at the same time. By nature I'm a quitter, so it makes sense what happened next
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Tile to get back into it
@zealobiron
@zealobiron Жыл бұрын
@DrumRollTonyReacts thank you for this. If I can stop being self destructive about trying to even get to the level i used to be, maybe I will. Either way, you're probably right. Maybe music can save something I'm afraid I lost if i just let myself play what I can play today.
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
@@zealobiron I am actually about to make a video that is on the topic of why everyone should be playing. Arts are very beneficial ingredient in life.
@zealobiron
@zealobiron Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReacts I'll be waiting! For what it's worth
@thedonsz9186
@thedonsz9186 Жыл бұрын
It's also a crime that you have not seen the live drum playthrough of Exercises In Futility V yet. Darkside is cymbal daddy
@rc9667
@rc9667 Жыл бұрын
Meshuggah is always 4/4!!!
@DrumRollTonyReacts
@DrumRollTonyReacts Жыл бұрын
Those ending segments are very deceptive on making you feel like it travels elsewhere. Awesome track
@SauceBoss69
@SauceBoss69 Жыл бұрын
@@DrumRollTonyReactsJust gotta bob your head to the hi-hat. Works the same with Periphery. Bob your head and go with the flow!
@gSWG3R
@gSWG3R Жыл бұрын
They have songs outside of 4/4.
@thedonsz9186
@thedonsz9186 Жыл бұрын
​@@gSWG3R yeah the comment should be "Bleed is always 4/4"
@Alalu
@Alalu Жыл бұрын
The lead guitarist wrote this song (via MIDI) and the drummer had to learn it lmfao
@spinxz_314
@spinxz_314 Жыл бұрын
The guitarist used the main pattern to warm up before shows.
@benceabraham4909
@benceabraham4909 Жыл бұрын
And in addition to blow your mind...This is all 4/4
@johannschiel6734
@johannschiel6734 Жыл бұрын
There is a good video with someone playing the bass drum rhythm on bongos and displaying the patters very well on screen. Really helps to see, what's going on.
@maddo7192
@maddo7192 Жыл бұрын
There is also a video of someone playing this on a piano. And another one where it's played with kitchen tools.
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve Жыл бұрын
I've spent more time than I'd like to admit trying to figure out the double bass pattern to this song, as "in theory" I am able to play it, but have been unsuccessful thus far. It's like they're playing two songs at the same time that couldn't be more different than each other.
@42k78
@42k78 Жыл бұрын
Been listening to this since it came out around 08ish and I still can't catch the phrasing. Is every single bar written individually? That would take memorization skills of a wizard. It hurts my head if I think about it too much and I love every second of it.
@JohnSmith-nm1jk
@JohnSmith-nm1jk Жыл бұрын
1. Brr da 2. Brr da da da 3. Dn dn brr da Dn dn brr da brr da Dn brr da 4. Brr da da da da da Brr da da da da da Brr da da da Brr da Brr da da da The solo is pretty random, don't remember how it goes. After solo: like 4 but in different order. Last thing: da brr
@briananderson2591
@briananderson2591 Жыл бұрын
New to your channel, if you haven't already done a reaction to Porcupine Tree "Aenesthitize", Gavin Harrison's drumming is next level.
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