Music Industry FACEOFF - Fans vs Machine for TOTAL Control! || The GidKidDad Show - Ep. 3

[@bobbyv7042]

all I can say is that you guys are doing a GREAT service towards promoting Philippine talent, whether you feel appreciated or not - more power to you!

[@KleyTa]

I agree, IT IS A MATTER OF DOING WHAT WORKS GLOBALLY and financially. Examples: 1. Global Concert tours 2. Good music production (release world class caliber) 3. Great vocal performances 4. Aggressive promotion of the music. 5. Fan meet events 6. Merchandise selling Plus sign but not the most important are music videos, lyrics, etc.

[@CaCa67963]

All these required big financial investments! This is not unique to the Philippines. America is one big example. That is the likes of Diddy grew so big and existed for so long!

[@gracehernandez8793]

More power to you, Josh and Lucas!

[@ginggingsaging]

I love these topics. More power to you guys

[@get2riz]

Josh/Lucas, I'm beginning to get this. Pop group development is capital-heavy up front, similar to building a rental building. It will take some five years to see operating income from the initial investment. Then the value of the group would be its net operating income exceeding costs.

[@Baily_Tube]

I remember reading comments on Reddit about the logo reveal video. They were calling it "Graphic Design is my passion kind of vibe". I liked it, but then after being exposed to the negativity, I started to agree. It could have been better, but after hearing the background on it from you guys, it was the best you could get!

[@joyshane33]

i love your podcast..i learn so much from it..i pray for your business success..God bless

[@asorite]

Thank you because you care about Filipino artists. I hope filipino management culture can change and adapt to meet these new challenges to the industry. Not all countries would have such global recognition like what our new generation of artists have.

[@6lolgroup]

Thanks for this kind of podcast because level-headed peepz can discuss things and learn something at the same time without attacking someone. Trolls and bitter peepz in general don't care whatever your opinion, say or feel. All they want is to destroy and make up stories for their ego.

[@Ver0_Cat]

Omg love reading 'The Day The Crayons Quit' to my kids, too. It's just so damn hard to read the yellow crayon's letter tho lol!

[@MP-kc8sl]

Can't wait til you get sponsorships. That'd be really fun!😂

[@ChristianButler-ix2dc]

A lot of good/great music around the world, doesn't get what they deserve like popularity and money.

[@jeremiahgo4595]

love your topic guys

[@jen8932]

I like your topics in this podcast today.

[@KleyTa]

You nailed it Lucas & Josh. It is not just about being good artists, it is about doing what works. My favorite Boyband are the best PPOP artists but there seems to be an oversight of what works globally. No doubt they know what works in the Philippines PPop but they have this mentality that for as long as they make good art it will work. Unfortunately, it’s not always the case.

[@bellepapeterie836]

Cherry on Top is not Bini's first full English song. There's their debut song--Born to Win, Golden Arrow, and No Fear. Their pre-debut song--Da Coconut Nut (a novelty song remixed for Bini) is also in full English.

[@chonaabellana5486]

Thank you for sharing about AI slowly taking the seat in almost everything. It is scary but I guess its inevitable.

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

i think ai in music isnt really gonna push away the singers or musicians cause you actually have to be personally present. so you dont really have to be scared about that. miku a vocaloid is a rare case. and it did receive many backlash or shame. animations have real life people behind them so not really ai.

[@Ava_Bellicent]

The people you’re looking for “like graphic designer or such” doesn’t exist in PH, unfortunately. Those people of caliber that you’re looking for is already living in different countries outside the Philippines. And that’s a sad reality here

[@asorite]

I hope you can detail more all possible income streams that musical management in the USA have in regards to making money with their artists. perhaps talk about things like public/private investment on these companies and how it works. or maybe talk about artists' legal safeguards from exploitation.

[@maggo_1111]

Way to call out the “you’re getting exposure” people

[@elizabethdavid6806]

I know one or two who said that last year.😅

[@sandraalgecera232]

Hope eclipse can get commercial C2 there very very good there voice soooo amazing.

[@ykn.18]

Josh, I like your specs. Mind sharing where you got them?

[@Daven834]

Glad you’re back..now i understand I didn’t see you for a while.I wondered. As a filipino myself is exasperated in my country.I am very disappointed and ashamed.😔

[@KleyTa]

You guys are doing a great job.

[@fruitcake5five278]

Haters are just bunch of Forest Gumps less luck. More power to you guys

[@marapedemonte]

Good evening guys👋

[@Chaca752]

I think BINI came after the management saw the success of MNL48 back - in terms of fan support of local pop group. They have pop groups (check out MYX magazines in the 20's) in the past but it didn't stand the chance against the influx of KPop. The kids were good but maybe not in investment/financial terms. I may not be a big BINI fan but I have so much respect to them and other groups that have financial backing - they also work as hard as the others. Kudos to GKD label for this kind of topics not just random thoughts. 🤔 Books release on PPop studies when?😂😂

[@saintielrivera6629]

Haha. N lng sa snsbi nyo financial backing. Kinalimutan tlga ntn kng ano situation ng abscbn nun nag debut sla until now.

[@saihadragon7082]

No, direk Lauren said himself that he got inspired from the success of SB19 that's why they've decided to create a GG.

[@ma.dolldoll9003]

@@saihadragon7082 Direk Lauren was probably just being diplomatic in light of K Davila being attacked for her statement at the time but what really inspired him was the success of BTS and Blackpink (the reason BINI and BGYO starts with B). Try watching their docuseries. Edit: that being said, I think he was sincere in lauding them for setting the standard for PPop groups (a sentiment echoed by the girls during their BBPH interview).

[@vlyvasquez5423]

@@ma.dolldoll9003get your time stamp. He said that even before that issue they even tried to get the boys after Tatang Robin left but CK won’t let go coz he know they are profitable. Fan war exist coz the other party tried to compare the orange from lemoncito. If Spotipay is the only thing that will make you famous then let’s forget what talent is all about.

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

​@vlyvasquez5423 spotipay? Wow, what a way to undermine BINI's success as if the whole nation has not seen nor heard them. plus, international too. dont try to undermine nor drag another group to soothe your ego of being a fan of sb19

[@rabb-u3n]

I think Filipino artists in general do not talk about the elephant in the room cause' that discussion would sound like a complain rather than a constructive criticism... The PH industry is full of archaic oligarchs thereby archaic minds and therefore positive 'change' here is slower. I'm glad we havr u guys now to actually pinpoint these problems and give it raw. I think ... or hope that, coming from you guys who are from the most advance music market, comparing industries, would be credible enough to shake the higher ups of the local music scene. Waiting for Ppop research papers drop 🙏

[@raeavilez9936]

Josh I would love to see these research papers that you speak of! Are you publishing this somewhere, like patreon?

[@masterran248]

hope to hear reaction video soon for Gigi

[@RowenaGarcia-mo4sl]

The industry has its own PDiddy😂

[@marinal.]

Hi, i am back. Good chat, ty. I was thinking about this recently. Right now i am seeing other Kpop groups grow which i feel will be less stress for BTS when they come back next year. If others can share the burden BTS can grow and do what they want. It was really hard on them being here in USA as a solo group promoting Korea and good music. Everyone sharing the burden of growth is better. Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟

[@asorite]

he there im a photographer. there are graphic artists who can do things from scratch here in the philippines. industry standard designers for people who can make graphics design for mainstream artists arent a lot of people. they dont come often because such artists doesnt have such high demand. most companies would rather cheap out on it rather than getting real artisans to do the work thats why its normally quite hard to look for them unless youd have an extensive connection to such contractors.

[@Tsu-z2r]

React to mark Michael Garcia James Ingram medley

[@melissaestrada8622]

Just wondering, if you create a jingle or a song for a company or a brand how does the artist paid off?Like SB19 doing song for McDonalds, Acer, GCash etc...

[@sundypontay2896]

Whatever you do. thank God your in the Philippines music industry. Congratsulations 🎼. Good luck and GODBLESS

[@Chris-xo9bq]

A'Tin here. we are happy that the boys are busy. sometimes we are concerned that it may sacrifice their health, however we also think they need to work, since they have partnership with brands. we dont just think about fan boying or fan girling, we also think on the business side especially they have their own company, they have staff to pay so we need to support them as much as we want.

[@grace1084v]

Agree and because of 1Z, A'tin wants to support the whole business because we know these are the things that the boys want, not just for themselves but for everyone that they work with.. 😊

[@soumandy2453]

Love the insight as always. Lol my thoughts on AI are pretty much the same. If you don't use it, you're getting left behind but also this is gonna end mankind as we know it. 😂 I'm just gonna enjoy the present for what it is.

[@LeviAcker15]

I saw BINI i clicked😁

[@maggo_1111]

1:16:45 duh. Did people not watch Avengers Age of Ultron?? 😅

[@KleyTa]

In comparison, SB19 is self managed and do not have the big machinery and big company to produce for them, which is a big challenge to SB19. On the good side, they have more freedom to do what they want. It is just a matter of how they will do what works globally.

[@Baily_Tube]

And, since it's their company, they get to keep majority of the profits (after payroll and operations expenses).

[@CarrieVillanueva9136]

Those under or was under "big machinery" has/had to work twice or more as hard than those/when self managed to be and stay relevant otherwise the big company will no longer sign them or sign them for much less and will be replaced by a new group. Working under "big machinery" is also a big challenge cuz you only get pennies and dimes. Kayod talaga. Ito hinain ni Dara and those like her woking under big companies. Kaya she is still working her hats off until now

[@MusicGame-Z]

Nope they have self produce management but they are under by Sony Music Philippine.. So they cannot get 100 ℅ of their income

[@CarrieVillanueva9136]

@MusicGame-Z nope. I saw 1Z's SEC docs. 1z (ONEZ Entertainment Corp) is solely owned by the members. They just have JV/corpoduction agreement with Sony for their Pagtatag. Plus 1z pays royalties to Showbt everytime they use the SB19 name or produce music together as a group. That is why they focus on solo gigs now

[@OliviaR-v1m]

​@@MusicGame-Znope. I seen 1z (Onez Entertainment Corp)'s SEC docs. 1z is solely owned by sb19 members. The sony deal for Pagtatag is just a production and/or marketing deal. That is standard in the music industry. Even bini has the same with star music. Just imagine how small the percentage goes to managed groups such as 2ne1 and bini? They dont even have their own recording or dance studio, so their managements have to pay for that too. Pennies and dimes. Kaya doble o triple kayot sila

[@josephleoalmuena2008]

Hope u check out Missioned Souls "Separate Ways", "Overlong" Crazy good filipino family band. Enjoy👍

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

6:11 bini wouldnt be in the same place if without sb19? 50/50 not agreeing cause im pretty sure they will still be successful if not considered as ppop(crazy as they would still be considered as nations gg too if without sb19) the concept of the new ppop inspired by kpop was introduced and was attempted by many before SB19 debuted. but many failed and mnl48 was kind of considered as ppop already. and with the way that bini TRENDED with just their pre debut song coconut there would be a chance that they will still be in the same place as they are now and would be be considered the face of ppop instead if there was no sb19.

[@NoorHabi-fr4vb]

Please reaction talha anjum song (Agency)

[@hopequen8534]

Thanks for the insightful discussion. Music industry in the Philippines does not work the same way. It’s mostly Metro Manila-centric. Tours only happen if you’re really popular. Money is earned if you get a regular TV gig like ASAP. The best money cones from corporate events. Christmas parties here are big. Companies are willing to pay artists millions for them to play during company anniversaries or Christmas parties. It’s guaranteed money, management does not have to risk it. Companies will only mount concerts for artists that are guaranteed to sell tickets. So touring is not commonly practiced. The only time the artists go to the provinces is if there are fiestas or brands bring them there.

[@saintielrivera6629]

Ah maliit lng ang bayad sa asap minsan wla pa.. sa live gigs kumikita ang mga music artist provincial gigs like fiestas. Variety shows like asap nakakatulong sya sa exposure ng artist para makilala alam nmn ntn kpg kilala ka pwede k humingi ng mataas n talent fee. Variety shows in terms kng kumikita ang artist . Isa napakalaki no

[@EmongTheFew]

BINI are about not conforming to the idol image, opposite of KPOP. Hi from US! I wouldn't be following anything Philippines if not for BINI.They're humble & didn't expect to blow up like they did and about being themselves keeping their positive vibes that resonate brightening people's days. Built their fanbase w/o relying on other groups from the group up, their unique pinoy oa/nonchalant "genuine selves that's relatable" to quote SB19! They just started making $ & BINI still donated 1M to KristinePH relief & were on the ground doing charity work!

[@MariaFonseca-k3m]

This proves how much PPOP has grown. I was born in the Philippines but left at a young age. I'm not that familiar with my own culture besides the food. All that changed when I stumbled into SB19. Now everyone in my circle are fans or in the process of being converted lol. SB19 and Bini have a lot in common in terms of their character them being both Filipinos. Pablo is donating all the earnings from his movie, Una, to the victims of typhoon Kristine. They are also donating proceeds from their Pagtatag documentary showings in LA and San Francisco. I am proud that both groups stayed humble and approachable despite their success.

[@vlyvasquez5423]

You forgot to include 18donation drive by the fandom during the 2 days DDCOM also produce more that a million and the fandom eve went on their way to really distribute it to the victims. Just like the AMO us A’TIN do the same.

[@Gigi_Waechter]

Well SB19 x A'TIN have donated more than 1M+ and charity work too to the victim of typhoon Kristine and Pablo himself will be donating all his earnings of his short film showed now in the Cinemas nationwide😊 and i find its amazing too! But SB19 is not the type of people to announce evry thing if they wanted to help. They just do it 😊 and BTW they were already helping so many people since Day 1❤

[@MariaFonseca-k3m]

@@Gigi_Waechter Like they say, when you're helping others leave the camera at home.

[@KleyTa]

Lucas & Josh, There’s a big difference between BINI and SB19. BINI did not go through the rejection of Ppop because SB19 already set the standard and made the nation aware of Ppop now. Second, BINI has a big management company and a big network which is ABSCBN who’s a big institution been in business for ages to produce their concerts and song productions and MV.

[@Myluz12]

Correction, that is half right. I agree SB19 did go through hardship to set the foundation for PPOP to be accepted in PH, but BINI wasn't immune to criticisms when they had their pre-debut and debut (even until now). The usual "feeling kpop, copycat, they wont last long" comments were there; That's why it took them 3 years to gain momentum and pop off in the OPM scene even with the backing of ABS. So they weren't void of "PPOP rejection" in the beginning, but yes not as much judgement as SB19 got when they started.

[@KleyTa]

@ wow that’s sad

[@CarrieVillanueva9136]

Working under big companies is not a walk in the park also. Those under or was under "big machinery" has/had to work twice or more as hard than those/when self managed to be and stay relevant otherwise the big company will no longer sign them or sign them for much less and will be replaced by a new group. You cannot complain if you have to continue to work 7 days a week, 365 days a year. You cannot ask for a break. Working under "big machinery" is also a big challenge cuz you only get pennies and dimes. Kayod talaga. Ito hinain ni Dara and those like her woking under big companies. Kaya she is still working her hats off until now

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

i dont really agree that sb19 is the one who made the NATION aware of ppop now. but for SB19 theyre the ones who officially made the COMMUNITY of ppop more established(cause many were already trying to make the ppop like kpop but sadly werent successful and DID receive "rejection" and criticism if we're basing off that) and BINI was the one who made the NATION aware of ppop. this is why the COMMUNITY gives credits to SB19. being called king of ppop. and BINI being acknowledged and called the NATIONS girl group. and if we're talking more about rejection. the difference is their gender. it was more acceptable for bini cause theyre girl/women, this concept is seen feminine and a-okay for them. whereas sb19 were called gay and not a man cause the concept of a pop group is not "manly" hence the "rejection". sure big network backing you up helps. but i have to share that many groups trying to push through ppop under that big network have been disbanded cause they were a failure. dont even discredit BINI just to elevate SB19. its okay to not always be thee number 1 nor being the first nor have such titles. Give credit where its due.

[@EmongTheFew]

THE lectures of arrogant ATIN are dishonest. ALL THE GROUPS WANT to get better views & streams even SB19 otherwise they wouldn't promote as much as they do! SEVERAL K-POP groups have had companies before SB19, IZ an agency for ppoprise I agree. Last year was their year this year is BINI's year by the numbers hopefully that trend continues. Talent is measured by success! The rest is opinion based. Obnoxious comments don't pay their bills. Grammys & all the officials see it from the fanbases buzz & determine it by giving these two groups articles but we need more than that for PPOP to compete with KPOP.

[@CharlesManalad]

Action speaks louder than words. You're always have rants and tantrums on how will ppop will be great, yet you can't do that on your own management. You only wasting the talents, skills and potentials of your artist. Free them. Give them work. Expose them to fans, to ppop community and to Filipino. I'm sad for them on what you are doing. 😢

[@snarveien1853]

Bini has Kpop consultant, thats why they get recommended when ppl stream kpop & jpop girl group songs. Kpop consultants are known for recommending paying streaming farms also. Which also makes me wonder why Blooms struggles in voting if against A'tin, if they are more? They also struggle with itunes purchases. So are their listeners actually fans or casual listeners because of free spotify accts or recommendation by being associated to kpop & jpop, plus streaming farms? As a PPop fan, I prefer SB19 for being honest in their streams & focus on talents. Like hell, Eminem has a solid fans around the world until now, but he doesnt even get 20M views in 1st day in YT. lol.. I am one of many who is not into strategy of getting pretty ppl with mediocre talents by big media, which has been the norm of big PH media tactic, which I am so disgusted. But they can do what they want anyway, no problem, it is just not my thing. But remember, many ppl fall out of love from Kpop coz they don't focus on talents (esp vocal stability) & artistry now. SB19 is incomparable coz they are an artists, & artist pursue what they want, not about trends, esp now with 1Z. And thank god they have solid fanbase, so they can pursue their artistry. As a libertarian, I love it. The truth is even with the big budget on Cherry on Top, it is nothing compared to the quality of Kpop & Jpop girl groups releases with virality & having much more solid fans. So Filipino groups should focus more & talents. But goodluck to Bini. But remember, idol concept is about solid fanbase, not casual listeners. It is about purchasing power of fans.

[@sanzcamaso]

What an idiot

[@ashe1644]

First, how the heck do you know about this K-pop consultant thing, and how do you know more than us, who’ve been with them from the start? 🤨 Oh, just to let you know that accusing them payola without evidence is a crime. 😉 Second, struggle, where? Yes, years ago, but now? Struggles with iTunes purchases? Are you that stupidly ignorant? How many times have they hit number 1 and occupy both both top 1,2, and 3 on iTunes even their AD songs managed to chart, both for singles and albums? Talk about struggles in purchasing when a mere hour-long 3 day grand concert sells out, along with merch, vinyls, etc. Third, I understand you prefer SB19 due to a different taste in music, but what do you know about honesty and talent, lmao? Yeah, sure, mediocre talents if that’s what you think, but even veterans praise them for their skills 🤡. Fourth, what do you know about artists? They write and produce their own songs. FYI, BINI also co-wrote most of their songs, and they’re the ones co-producing their concerts. Talking about like you know the girls, lmao, they pursue what they want, and they passionately love their craft. Fifth, I agree that COT has a high budget, but at the level of K-pop and J-pop, since ABS isn’t as big as the companies in Korea and Japan. Lastly, are you that stupid? How can you advocate for P-pop’s rise when there are no casual listeners? Aren’t you in that fandom where most fans have a superiority complex and look down on the masses because they have "low taste" in music?

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

huh? you think theyre paying for streams cause they arent winning against sb19? you know theres difference in having lots of streams cause the NATION listens to you PLUS international. do you think the common LISTENER is going to vote for COMMUNITY stuff? naur, cause theyre just a listener that LIKED binis songs. not really in the FANDOM. i have said in the other comment that it was SB19 that have established the COMMUNITY of ppop. and it was BINI who has made the NATION aware of ppop. this is why sb19 is being called KING of ppop whereas bini is called NATIONS girl group. so no brainer that SB19 is winning votes and BINI is having more listeners. what a way to discredit AND put down bini just cause you want sb19 to be on top of everything or have the titles of everything. very crazy. really had to put down their looks and talent/skills too. pathetic of you

[@Vintagereject]

Here again with payola allegations lmao. If BINI had kpop consultants until now, then why are there so much fuck ups by the management when it comes to catering to the fandom who are majorly composed of kpop fans? (Also, didn't SB19 come from an actual korean company? If there's anyone who have connections within the kpop industry, it would have been them lmao) Blooms struggle in voting because unlike Atin, the fans are not yet as organized when it comes to votings. We dont even have a solid streaming team as it's not yet organized. Do not forget that Atin as a fandom has existered for years, meanwhile Blooms only grew exponentially at the beginning of this year. What itunes purchase struggle? Until now, 4/5 of their songs are still on the Itunes top 10. Not to mention how their 3 albums suddenly became the top 3 albums on itunes last week just because. Also wasn't BINI's 3-day concert with higher ticket prices sold out immediately? Their merch? Would casual fans be willing to spend that much money? Doubt it. It has always been and always will be blooms. Just because we don't vote, does not mean we're not here. Maybe most of us are just busy with other things in our lives. Yall are saying that you dont care about streaming numbers but your fandom are the ones who do mass streaming all the time. If you really don't care, then why do it? Why belittle BINI's streaming achievements when you yourselves aim for the same thing? When MAPA and Gento became popular in the gp (not pantropiko or salamin salamin levels lbr), did you as a fandom not celebrate that? At the end of the day, artists want people to listen to their music. Not just be kept inside the bubble of their fandom no matter how big it is. SB19 is a talented group. BINI is also a talented group. They have different genres of music and neither is better than the other because music taste has always been subjective. You implying that BINI is mediocre just because they are pretty and come from a big media company (that has been in the red for years after being targeted by the government mind you), is disgusting. Stop projecting your insecurities at other people lol. Maybe the reason why the general population aren't biting your idols is because of the superiority complex many of you seem to have. Keep your feet on the ground lmao.

[@genokiller6195]

haha patawa ka dami mo shades sa bini ,real talk daming casual fan nang bini sa pilipinas na nakikinig lang sa music nila at di bumubuto isa na ako jan,yung sb19 daming kulto mga obsess fan kahit sa mga content na mabanggit lang yung opm or ppop like mga 90% sa comment section puro fans nang sbi19 minsan napapaisip nlang ako mga bots ba mga to.tsaka streaming farms? hello bat nman gagawin nang bini yan ano bang competition merun dito sa pinas? hirap nga ibang ppop group mka abot nang 1m sa views at stream nila

[@Jaegyvern]

🤡🌧😉

[@joekerrvatsi188]

Ang hindi naiintindihan ng dalawang to e kung walang fan wars ibig sabihin lang non e wala ng may pake sa ppop. Kaya nga may different fandoms e para you feel like theres a group you belong to. Hindi pedeng lahat e fans ng buong ppop. Walang ganon. Mangyayari lang yan if people no longer care about ppop. Ang lalaking brands ang nirerepresent ng sb19, bini at g22 at iniinvite sila sa ibang bansa para magperform which is a very big deal kasi di yan nangyayari sa karamihan ng opm artists.

[@joekerrvatsi188]

Bini and sb19 are products of filipinos desperation to have a representation in the kpop scene. Both underwent korean idol type training. Both are kpop fans even before they became sb19 and bini. All sb19 members were in a kpop dance cover groups. Bini even had a korean language teacher. They literally follow the kpop business model even the games they play on their content were copied from kpop idols. Even their mannerism are so kpop.

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

OMG THIS! shet omg finally someone who had the KIND OF a same thought as i am! Pinoys wanted a PPOP to be like what KPOP is. and was basically a copy paste with a sprinkle of filipinism.

[@IrineoSalazarMunich]

​@EclypseLiveArchive because of long colonial period, Filipinos learned to imitate very well. Even Filipino rock started with the "Filipino Elvis" Eddie Mesa, then you had Pepe Smith, and finally with the Eraserheads and others it had become really Filipino. Same with how Spanish and Broadway influences are all over what is called OPM if you listen closely, even 1930s "bodabil" (vaudeville) - but then again what is wrong with imitating, innovating and improving? One could also say Jolibee is an imitation of KFC but probably it is better than KFC now. Many American PPop fans are trying Jolibee now or soon. In short, relax, trust the process. PPop has also brought tourists to the Philippines. SB19 fans last year, BINI fans this week.

[@normansioson1337]

The crazy part is we literally have Filipino K-Pop Idols, which is currently represented by Elisia and Gehlee of Unis. Chanty from Lapillus will be returning soon, but in terms of popularity, Unis is slowly gaining ground.

[@EclypseLiveArchive]

i agree with what you say. theres nothing wrong with imitating, innovating and improving. but we do have an issue where some our people are tooo prideful to even acknowledge that we do copy pasting. ​@IrineoSalazarMunich

[@Myluz12]

Dang O_o so after hearing your explanation on how much a Filipino artist earns and knowing that BINI took a huge chunk from their concert earnings to donate to typhoon victims makes me really admire them more. 🫶