Music Producer REACTS to the M4 Mac Mini! Is this the BEST mac for Musicians?

[@Nick-t5x]

It's great to hear that the new Mac mini M4 will have 16GB of RAM. It would be even more impressive if the minimum storage option was increased to 512GB.

[@arkoverload]

Agreed

[@aphexish]

I ran a Mac mini m1 with 16gb ram and it basically replaced my windows laptop. It never once ran out of cpu power. So an upgrade for m4 with trade in credit was a done deal.

[@kpeleent]

its important to note the standard m4 only has thunderbolt 4. thunderbolt 5 comes only with the pro version.

[@Roberto_Narvaez]

Please, if you get one and test it for the channel, don’t forget to report on fan activity/noise when working on CPU intensive sessions. I’m curious about how this small thing can handle heat dissipation. Thank you for your content!

[@arkoverload]

Will do!

[@sachchidanandyadav2949]

BRO tell me which one should I take Mac Mini M4 or Mac Mini M4 Pro.And I should take Logic Pro with lots of plugins also.How many gigabytes of RAM should I take and harddisk. 

[@live_emulator]

i almost bought the base at 256gb but then realized its better to install vst/plugins to main ssd. so this videio helped!

[@restymalinao2023]

or .. you can get a 2TB external NVMe drive for around $200, offering nearly the same speed as the built-in Mac Mini storage.

[@tunesdonebyone3428]

I also own the M2 Mini Pro and I'm definitely interested in the M4 , BUT I'm gonna wait to see what Apple does with the Studio

[@hackexpert0003]

The SoC ARM proprietary architecture used by Apple (developed by Johny Srouji) is the best ARM processor in the market and will be for decades, this SoC managed to combine performance, stability and power efficiency all in one tiny 3nn chip that can handle desktop professional works like a beast. Tiny but Shiny!

[@morrisfraser7236]

Good shout. I use 2 Intel Minis with my M1 Mac Studio and must confess the M4 mini laughs at my M1 Studio Max. If you’re using Logic or ProTools make sure you get the mini withe most performance cores. These DAWs in particular don’t get most from efficiency cores - they need maximum performance cores which is why Logic works best (until now) with M1 10 or 12 core. Saying that, Logic works really well!

[@notsure1135]

Bro, I have a Max as well from the same year. It's fine, The M4Pro isn't laughing at it.

[@robsmith5434]

14 core Mac Mini has 10 performance cores. It should be absolutely incredible for music production.

[@ilikemyrealname]

@@notsure1135Going by the leaked benchmarks, the M4 Pro is on par if not faster than the M1 Ultra.

[@MrDakti]

⁠@@ilikemyrealnameGeekbench show that M4Pro (14c version) is even fater than M2Ultra

[@ilikemyrealname]

@@MrDakti Wow yeah you’re right I just look at it again.

[@progtom7585]

Id be surprised to see how well a fan could be effective cooling such a compact box with the complex air flow that they show in their cooling animations - given that the mini has the PDU inside it as well... but when my MBP M1 needs an upgrade id be super stoked to grab one of these for the crazy value!

[@charlievarley]

These base chips have been in an ipad for the last 6 months without a hitch and it the thinest they have ever made.

[@robsmith5434]

The 14 core M4 Pro in the new Mac Mini has nearly double the multicore performance of the most expensive $50,000+ Mac Pro from 2019. This little thing is a beast.

[@arkoverload]

Crazy!

[@RodneyRicoWillis]

Where are u Keeping your Virtual Instruments like kontact? On an external drive or on the internal drive?

[@arkoverload]

I have them stored on a Samsung external SSD

[@christopher5981]

Honest opinion, should I get the m4 or the m4 pro or it's not necessary go for a m4 pro? Pls help

[@TheFlowman]

How big are the sessions you running?

[@wilkinsi]

I upgraded from an i3 2018 mac mini to a mac studio m2 max end June. I think I will wait for the M4 Mac Studio, only I want at least a 1TB SSD

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

How often do you turn off your Mac? Mine in my studio lives on all day.

[@arkoverload]

I almost never turn it off.

[@Sonic-Boom]

I put mine to sleep at the end of the day but it is never turned off fully.

[@r9999t]

You would be insane to upgrade the Mac mini to a larger SSD, it has super fast connectors, just get an external 4TB SSD for about $300 (compare that to getting an extra 256GB for $200 from Apple). Or if you want a cheaper option you can get a 2TB and come in less than the $200/256GB Apple upgrade price. Whatever the case, Apple's base machine has great price/performance, but their upgrade prices are pure extortion. Unfortunately if you need more RAM, you're stuck, you need to pay the Apple tax for the RAM upgrade, upgrading the RAM after purchase is almost impossible.

[@KochVee]

I'm a budding/aspiring music producer /content-creator. If you go for the base model 256 GB, would that be enough space for loading software like LogicPro and all the plug-ins? Also, does the base model have Thunderbolt 5 ports (with 520 GB transfer speeds)?

[@KochVee]

Also which brand external SSD would you recommend?

[@jaydee3514]

I would recommend 1tb. And as much ram as you can afford. This will future proof it.

[@r9999t]

@@KochVee Yes, the M4 Mac Mini has Thunderbolt 5 ports. For the SSD, there's tons of choices, I think you would be safe with the Samsung T9, but you could also get an M.2 enclosure and put any M.2 SSD inside that you want. The big question is how much RAM you need. Apple makes it very hard (impossible?) to only upgrade the RAM, the RAM upgrade is currently bundled with the unnecessary SSD upgrade. Only you can answer how much RAM you need, but unless you're a power user 16GB is probably going to be good enough. If you don't know if you need more RAM, the answer is most likely "no", you don't need more RAM. Alsop you need to decide how much SSD space you need, on a cost per dollar basis it's best to get more SSD up to 4TB, above 4TB they charge a crazy premium, so I wouldn't recommend that, but 4TB and below the prices (when not from Apple) are great.

[@r9999t]

@@KochVee I tried to answer before and KZbin deleted it, sigh... Anyway, Yes, the M4 Mac Mini has Thunderbolt 5 ports. For the SSD, there's tons of choices, I think you would be safe with a Samsung S9. Maybe my more complete answer will show up at some point, but I'm too lazy to type it all in again (stupid KZbin).

[@bill4510]

Good video.I do worry about the cooling. Iwll the fan kick in during heavy CPU use.

[@TechwithTonyUK]

I have ordered the base model config Mac Mini, looking to upload my first video on KZbin soon. Great Video, keep up the good work. Going to be editing the video on my M3 Pro MBP. Earned a sub from me!

[@IvarKoster]

curious if the m4 base will equivalent to the m2 pro qua processing power.

[@thomasphilippart1922]

Is gpu 16 enough for content creators?

[@klinikat5313]

Better than i9 14900k ?

[@alexovercast3359]

Ya. Imma wait until we get the M4 studio - and then wait until I can buy it refurb'd. Hopefully they keep the USB-A ports on the back.

[@ilikemyrealname]

How much ram does your M2 mini have? I have an M1 Pro with 16gb. The projects where I’m writing with sample libraries and mixing and mastering in the same project maxes out my machine. The 16gb of ram is constantly an issue with my projects. I’m using Komplete Kontrol and once I get past 10-12 instruments, my ram pressure is at its limit. I’m using Pro Tools.

[@arkoverload]

I have a m2 pro with 16 gigs of ram. I’m working with logic.

[@flappospammo]

It's pretty mind blowing , tiny little beast :)

[@robertgrabowski2265]

Transfer bandwidth is in Giga (b)it per second and not Giga (Byte) per second. So it's 120 Gigabit/sec and not 120 GigaByte/sec.

[@arkoverload]

Doh! I’ve made that mistake before. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@Nick-kb6jd]

I cant decide 24 or 48 gigs ram

[@timdmx512]

64

[@michaelmai281]

How is FL Studio on the M2 M3 or M4

[@lordiari7110]

Yep, essential info

[@futureprimitive7465]

I use Reason as my DAW and don't have extensive tracks with a lot going on, would I be ok with the base model m4 mini?

[@harbourphotography2152]

Yes but I would probably get the extra ram for ~200

[@musiccreation1198]

The Mac mini M4 Pro is a stellar release from Apple. It beats a M2 Ultra ... wow.

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

Not in graphics. but otherwise yes.

[@notsure1135]

@@PLANETWATERMELON more memory bandwidth on the studio. 400GB vs 273GB throughput. Memory isn't everything, processor speed is more important.

[@darkhawk21]

Can this handle a docking station and 2 monitors? My 2018 macbook pro 1tb storage 32gb ram had its logic board fried twice now cause i left it on overnight

[@PhiLiaSF]

Hello. Do you think a base model with 512 gb of storage would be enough for music production in Ableton Live since the M4 only have 4 performance cores? Thank you :)

[@legacyShredder1]

Yes with one consideration: How many channels of VSTs are you using? If you're doing orchestral scores with thousands upon thousands of samples in your libraries I'd go with the M4 Pro model or the regular M4 with 24gb memory. If you're doing pop/rock/country/rap/hiphop you'll be absolutely great with the 512gb base M4. I own multiple commercial studios so I have first hand experience.

[@georgefloydtv.]

Get the base 256gb and an external drive and don't get scammed by Apple's horrendous pricing

[@PhiLiaSF]

@@legacyShredder1 I produce rock/electronic music, with projects with no more than 50 tracks, some of them audio tracks (guitars, voices, bass...)

[@legacyShredder1]

@@georgefloydtv. I'm going to make the case that Phil get's the 512gb SSD, because if you ever run out of unified memory (Mac's version of RAM) it will start using the solid state drive for memory. Yes it's expensive, but the one rule in the music industry is making sure to have plenty of headroom in as many areas as possible. Having the extra headroom will help with latency and various other potential issues.

[@legacyShredder1]

@@PhiLiaSF Personally I think you're in good hands with the base M4 and 512gb SSD. Like I told the other guy, the extra SSD storage gives headroom for your unified memory.

[@klinikat5313]

How many hungry Vsti fx or Synth instances with 16 GB ?

[@guusarts6763]

How much RAM does your M2Pro have? I guess 16 GB isnt sufficiënt for the music production you do?

[@arkoverload]

16 GB!

[@greccoox]

the video that real matter is mac mini M2Pro vs M4 base model... because the 2p extra cores in M2Pro.

[@b-music9329]

The power button placement is idiotic - were they on drugs? And who needs an Ethernet port? They better should have placed two USB-A ports there instead. Otherwise fantastic.

[@harbourphotography2152]

Sleep mode is your friend with this model!

[@b-music9329]

@@harbourphotography2152 Finda da power button - wheeere iss daa power buttonn?? (Monty Phyton re-loaded)

[@b-music9329]

@@harbourphotography2152 In the next Mac Mini you must buy the power button as external dongle

[@harbourphotography2152]

@@b-music9329 😂 Yea it’s an on choice for sure.. especially when it will likely be tucked away behind stuff already with it being nice and small

[@bobbyboyderecords]

48bit audio recording? Jesus fuck

[@kennethm.380]

Jesus died for you and this is how you thank Him?

[@arkoverload]

I misspoke there. Meant to say 48 kHz. I record in 24 bit audio. Thanks for catching it!

[@bobbyboyderecords]

@@kennethm.380 I am sorry, the priest did that to me when i was a Catholic alterboy

[@kennethm.380]

@@bobbyboyderecords Yeah, that is a really sorry excuse even if you are kidding. Read Revelation Chapter 7. It's coming and it's not that far away. You do NOT want to dis Jesus. Trust Him - and trust what I'm telling you.

[@harbourphotography2152]

@@kennethm.380not everyone believes if fairy tales

[@JiriHradil-mi8zl]

Mega

[@stafvh5783]

As a music producer you should know that music can be a blessing but also irritating. Your background music is totally irrelevant and unnecessary. On top of that it hinders big time my concentration to follow your comments that in itself are ok

[@arkoverload]

As a music producer you should also know that it’s a personal preference. I will keep doing me, but appreciate the feedback.

[@adamsilver1223]

@@arkoverloadthe music doesn’t distract me and I like your response. Commenter has a point but really needs to work on not being so unlikable.

[@stafvh5783]

@@adamsilver1223 It was not my intention to be unlikable. Words can sound more harsh than intended.

[@philfyphil]

I tend to agree, it’s distracting.

[@1xmikax]

No offense, but there's nothing massive about a 50 track project. Unless you do beat making (and even so) recording a band will rarely bring you to less than 50 tracks

[@arkoverload]

None taken. I used to work with projects that were 20-30 so working with 50 is a lot in my production experience.

[@nnnnnn3647]

background music is awful.

[@Studio_4to1]

I find these « reviews without the actual gear » to be hard to follow. I’ll keep an eye out for the actual reviews, tho!