The good old days of "gun slinging" brass line ! I was fortunate enough to be part of the group.
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@jonathanwillis1143 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely cutting edge at the time (as with Star of Indiana as well). The brass line was just off the charts. The arrangements were Wayne Downey at his best. Masterful! Mayne not their best percussion but I love the percussion writing and think the players did an amazing job. Loved the pit. It was a super strong year with Star, Cavaliers, and Phantom also being so good and clean, but short of Star there were no other corps that could have performed this music book. Of course Star had a different style and even with them I am not sure they would have had the soloists to handle what BD did. I so badly would love to hear a music book like this again. The activity has changed and not all for the bad. There are many things I enjoy, but we don't often hear a book like this.
@JeffMenendezRealtor5 жыл бұрын
One of the best horns books of all time! Kudos to the percussion program, down year. But those members went through a lot with the whole Float issue to start the January camps, to the core of 1990 vets walking out, merry go around of staff changes, new members, new drum books every 2 weeks during pre season and the season itself. Yet they endured. Good for them.
@ImVee105 жыл бұрын
Jeff Menendez I’d LOVE to know the Float story.
@yomama37754 жыл бұрын
@@ImVee10 Me too please.
@ImVee103 жыл бұрын
@@StephenKershaw1 That’s it? 🥱😴
@bryancook32333 ай бұрын
The DL quit first day of practice... Took awhile to sort that mess out. Also the Mehan incident.
@citizengar4 жыл бұрын
What a great show. I've always thought this was underappreciated.
@ronmcbride21003 жыл бұрын
This was not a bad show. The problem is it had to compete with the Mid-West (Star, Cavies, & PR) that took 1st, 2nd, & 3rd places. And then on top of that SCV had an absolutely incredible show. Star was just unbeatable that year & always entertained the crowd. But, I have say that my favorite shows in 91 HAD to be Phantom Regiment & Santa Clara Vanguard.
@jared01117 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite musical programs of all time. insane hornbook, some of the jazziest jazz the football field has ever seen. thanks so much for posting, i'd never heard anything other than finals, and i've listened to that one with great appreciation for a good many years.
@BrianHaag5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think this is most "real" jazz production DCI has ever seen. What I wouldn't give for this to be the current direction.
@kmeddow20024 жыл бұрын
Brian Haag I agree
@MS-df2fk5 жыл бұрын
I'd put this second behind 94 in my favorite BD shows. And look at that guard! Marching and spinning at the same time! Crazy
@LeopoldMidas5 жыл бұрын
Needs more pre-recorded music and vocals! Said no one ever.
@sw58245 жыл бұрын
Whew!
@rifle2563 Жыл бұрын
Ironically it's the 80s 90s generation that designed this current situation
@neilpalmer55775 жыл бұрын
At the time I couldnt listen to this show, I was only a young lad and it was to complicated for my little head. Now love it!
@wolfepow274 жыл бұрын
Definitely without a shadow of doubt, one of the greatest DCI shows to be put on a field. I saw the standstill in a parking lot, can't remember where but it was killer, and as a 91 Cadet we had mad props for the devils that year!
@xxxyorks6 жыл бұрын
That was better than the finals show
@Mark-sj3xb5 жыл бұрын
Drum line had an awful night at finals. This was much better I agree.
@jared01115 жыл бұрын
was 5:19 not a huge tear?
@neilpalmer55774 жыл бұрын
Way better than finals! Always felt alot of corps that year needed a couple of more week they always felt unfinished. Probably just me.
@bfremming5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vance.
@americanspirit89323 жыл бұрын
I just would like to announce, the use of five bass drums was the idea of John Sasso, in the Long Island sunrises in 1968 and they were played in a horizontal position. May you rest in peace
@rifle2563 Жыл бұрын
Odd factoid on this video
@digitalayon3 жыл бұрын
I like it....it just hit a year where more popular shows went down from other corps.
@andyking36105 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is at 10:32 when the judge is trying to escape the swirling vortex. "oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit"
@jeffe_773 жыл бұрын
8:16 that timpani roll changed to an eight note solo build up at Finals, by the way, that Timpanist is an underrated part of the show!
@sw58243 жыл бұрын
That OTL is ultimate chaos in motion
@phillipwright367923 күн бұрын
sophisticated bd....always!
@jamesmccaughey5604 Жыл бұрын
Easily one of DCI's best horn books. 😎
@floatdude2 жыл бұрын
All the Remo Falam heads on the snare drum were given to BD from the Velvet Knights, the snare heads they used all failed badly. VK staff gave me a hard time about it when I did it, but once I talked to them, hey were 14th and their are like 4th place, so help them out. So Cal corps helping Northern Cal Corps. Plus we had ex VK members in BD and Paul Rennick asked nicely, they look like they need the help.
@cicook75 жыл бұрын
That ending was tough that night, it looked like work!
@ryantea447 жыл бұрын
A tough first year for director Dave Gibbs, but we sounded really good. Even better than Star... says everyone who watched us live this year.
@BrianHaag6 жыл бұрын
this hornline was criminally underrated then and now... only 93 is better
@warrenmoore47436 жыл бұрын
I hate to admit it because i think you guys have won too many championships.....but you guys were WAY underscored this year. Both you and the Cadets were far more advanced than higher scored corps. Oh, and by the way....did "Star"'s guard use ANY auxilary equipment. I don't think Star ever twirled a rifle.
@dankelly14266 жыл бұрын
Most guards are doing more dancing/theatre moves than equip these days. Probably started later in the 90's.
@warrenmoore47436 жыл бұрын
It started with Star of Indiana.
@brianjungen40596 жыл бұрын
Warren Moore way underscored? Umm...no. Listen to the drum line and look at their score and that’s all you need to know.
@zachm94547 жыл бұрын
Do you happen to have the Star of Indiana quarter final recording? If they recorded the last 30 seconds of that show in full high cam, that would be an amazing contribution to the drum corps community to have it released.
@MusicAnimeNSX7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't. I do have Phantom Regiment semi but I need to find it.
@BrianHaag7 жыл бұрын
DUDE please put it up. There's no '91 Nessun Dorma anywhere afaik.
@agogobell286 жыл бұрын
I have the Star finals high cam.
@KBisDOC2 жыл бұрын
Think I have the top 12 finals on VHS still
@kmeddow20023 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they took out that massive crescendo at 10:57 for semis and finals? It sounded good.
@stanleydogood88742 жыл бұрын
sounds unnatural there. . . to me. . . it's of course subjective
@bringndaruckus69565 жыл бұрын
Opening with 1976 Capital Freelancers. and 1981 Garfield Cadets.
@BlueEuph5 жыл бұрын
I like how they display all the flags of where the members are originally from. America, Canada, Japan, I can't make out the middle one? Anybody?
@massimochiacchia32614 жыл бұрын
The Netherlands.
@MatenesisVlogs5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or did the blue coats play the same song that was in the closer?
@MS-df2fk5 жыл бұрын
They did. Bird and Bela in B Flat. This arrangement is way better
@luvspaiste3 жыл бұрын
What happened with the drumline that year?
@MichaelMartinez117 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Ye - 1st Base - Tom Float lines rule back in the day.
@MusicAnimeNSX7 жыл бұрын
Actually it was a Paul Rennick line. Float was gone after the prior season and went to VK.
@MichaelMartinez117 жыл бұрын
thanks for the heads up. Hard to keep track. California Corps were playing musical chairs with their drum caption head instructors back in those days.
@MusicAnimeNSX7 жыл бұрын
Open the door for Paul Rennick, and now he is kicking ass with SCV.
@BrianHaag7 жыл бұрын
So wild, because he was doing anything but, then. '91 to '93 devs batteries were their downfall.
@MichaelMartinez117 жыл бұрын
keep in mind the last 4 minutes of that show might be the hardest composition ever attempted in DCI. Playing in 7/16 and 9/16 time registrars you can hear slight phasing - the drum judge puts the blame on the drum score as a consequence. You could have just as easily as gave the corp credit for the improvement made from quarter finals to finals, it's apple's and oranges at the top. I think the 91' devs show is mis-understood in a lot of ways and way ahead of it's time.
@supersop6 жыл бұрын
10:50 to the end was slightly different finals night. I like this better. The pro recording of this show is a treasure (audio only) there's way more to this book that you can't hear on pbs recordings. Same said for almost every show prior to 1996. I'm a huge fan of this show. I think the percussion maybe had a better night on finals. Some extreme subtleties in that book. You really have to see and hear it too get it all and even then.... you might have missed it. Same said for brass. I now can hear the difference adding the 3rd valve had. A little less power than 2 valve. Better intonation overall. But what a great show. This is Golden Era Drum Corps. In my opinion, this took the rules as far as they needed to go. Feels like the sweet spot.
@supersop6 жыл бұрын
Micah Lall-Trail the is also a difference in the plating alloys used. This makes a HUGE difference in power output. I'm almost positive that the old 2 valve bugles used denser metals and alloys.
@supersop6 жыл бұрын
Micah Lall-Trail LMAO ....OH?
@supersop6 жыл бұрын
Micah Lall-Trail glad I could help
@markschomaker30535 жыл бұрын
Almost positive? Like, Im "ALMOST POSITIVE" I Pulled the pin on that Grenade before it threw it.... Which 2 valve bugles are you talking about? The 3 valve King vs the 2 valve King? Thats what BD used. They Did at one point use the Olds Ultratone IIs, which were chrome plate, until the Kings became available in the 1982 - 83 timeframe. The Kings are made from Brass and covered in silverplate. 2 and 3 valve instruments are made from the same alloys. You would be hard pressed to find a discernable difference in the sounds of the 2 vs 3 valve King Powerbore bugles. And you certainly aint telling the difference on the field, in wildly variable weather circumstances, with players at various skill levels. And what the hell are you talking about on "Power Output"? Is that a measurable parameter as far as Bugles go? Im sure if that were at all measurable, it would be down to the person playing the bugle, and his skill level and breathing technique....
@supersop4 жыл бұрын
@@markschomaker3053 Sorry I didn't see this until now Mark. I'm comparing what I've used over the years. I had a 2 valve DEG for my entire JR CORPS marching career (my personal horn that I bought). I've used 3 valve Kanstuls and 3 valve Kings. No way I could put as much air through those 3 valve horns. Air = Power. The bell shape was different on the 3 valve DEGS and I believed that's what BD was using at the time (1991).
@BlueEuph5 жыл бұрын
Do they still do that?
@rifle25636 жыл бұрын
Vance what brand horns you guys playing on that year?
@MusicAnimeNSX6 жыл бұрын
It was mixed. 22 - Kanstul prototype 3 Valve Soprano 8 - Kanstul 3 valve baritone 8 - Kanstul 3 valve euphonium 10 - Kanstul 2 Valve Meehaphone (Alto) 4 - Deg 2 Valve Mellophone 10 - King K90 two valve contrabass. To the best of my memory.
@agogobell286 жыл бұрын
There were only 16 baris total? That’s a pretty small line.
@MusicAnimeNSX5 жыл бұрын
64 brass was standard for most corps. Today is around 86-90 plus electronics. The Bb horns can't compete.
@jared01115 жыл бұрын
@@MusicAnimeNSX think those meehaphones ever pop up for sale?
@MusicAnimeNSX5 жыл бұрын
jared b not I’m Aware of. I was able to find the bell mandrel and produced a prototype 3 valves version in F.
@wm86736 жыл бұрын
The BLUECOATS 2018 LIFTED THIS.. OH WOW, BUT DCI DOES THIS ALL THE TIME
@gak27scv5 жыл бұрын
Yup. The opener in this show was played by Suncoast Sound several years prior...
@neilpalmer55775 жыл бұрын
@@gak27scv and Suncoasts version was loud and raw.
@supersop4 жыл бұрын
Suncoast 1986 ..... 5th place finals night. Great brass ... fantastic bass drum line.
@davidfisher55993 жыл бұрын
The Devils at their finest.
@ultradmann23677 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the actual show?
@MusicAnimeNSX7 жыл бұрын
ultradmann conversation in jazz
@burdrchitect16806 жыл бұрын
When shows had no theme.. and just played straight music...
@ThaSound3 жыл бұрын
WWWWwwwwwoooooowwwww!!!!
@thereefaholic4 жыл бұрын
Back in the days before corps started dragging all that shit out on the field and the out of place amplification and pitchbending. No monologuing . No singing. Just drum corp.
@thereefaholic3 жыл бұрын
And people did not like it back then. In fact if I recall the vocalizations got you a “tick” (penalty for the those not in the know). The pitch ending done by spirit was not done electronically so I will adjust my critique of today’s drum corps by saying “electronic pitch bending. The over the top props that only of the corps of those days were odd too but the guard carried them out in most cases and were not stages, trampolines. Stripper poles, or port-o-potties you see today. Well except 86 bridge men with the giant present (Ooosss). I will say the corps of today have way more difficult marching and have a much higher level of precision than back in those days. The music is arguably more complex today as well. Well done there.
@KBisDOC2 жыл бұрын
Didn't most of the singing start with the Scouts doing Strawberry Soup in 93?
@agogobell283 ай бұрын
Singing - unamplified, of course - was allowed as early as 1984. There’s a section of the Garfield Cadets show (West Side Story) that year that features the hornline and guard singing. Perhaps it was allowed even earlier, I’m not entirely sure.
@thereefaholic3 ай бұрын
Once the rules changed to allow vocalizations, it would pop up in drips and drabs. At most it was a harmonic enhancement . Some group singing as well. Bridgemen even did a rap in their Christmas in July show. When they started combining it with amplification is really when it “jumped the shark” as they say. Through incrementalism we now have extra tractor trailers for the core to carry massive amounts of junk. While there is a higher level of marching skill these days (IMO) the shows have lost something in an effort to fill the time with more and more stuff.
@fancykat99404 жыл бұрын
3:20 They trapped the judge in
@ondrauscissell69524 жыл бұрын
Drum Corps is so much better without electronics and amplification !!!!!!
@KlldbyCuriosity5 жыл бұрын
Look at that beautiful bent leg
@neilpalmer55774 жыл бұрын
I know, just like half the corps today.
@adad026 жыл бұрын
bluecoats 2k18
@everythingturns6 жыл бұрын
and the arrangement of this show is so much more engaging than what the Coats are offering up. not to mention it is not drowned in synth bass.
@steviem84663 жыл бұрын
Crap. Drum Corps just got lost up its own arse!
@carterschuld76057 жыл бұрын
Back in the days when you MOVED as well as PLAYED music.