Must Do ESC Upgrade Mod !!! HobbyWing MAX6

[@mossyhollow3732]

Great HARDCORE mods here. 🤘 You lot really bash'em to death. R.I.P: to those who powered up their speed controller without waiting for the epoxy to cure for at least 24 hrs. (Even the fast set). Let it cure 100% (2 days is worth it) before powering up or it may still be conductive. (Priceless experience speaking here... OK maybe $60) Same goes for RTV silicone or other potting compounds. (One more set of parenthesis for good measure).

[@HardcoreRC]

That's a very good point and hadn't even though about it as always let is set for 48 hours before i do anything to it, like the resin to set properly, have pinned your comment 👍👍

[@CorvetteC6-LS2]

Powering what the controller i am new in the hobbies i want to learn

[@mossyhollow3732]

@@CorvetteC6-LS2 The radio signal is picked up by the receiver. The receiver tells the steering servo to move. It also tells the electronic speed controller (ESC) to use battery power for the drive motor. The ESC needs to be good so it can accelerate, stop and reverse smoothly. Dave’s keeps working loose because he beats the heck out of it.

[@KevinTalbotTV]

nice mod ill have to try it!

[@HardcoreRC]

If you have had those cups pull out before as we have then deffo worth doing

[@Top-Jimmy]

Excellent Mod mate, Great idea's!

[@HardcoreRC]

Your welcome - glad you liked it

[@garywynegarsvikingrc843]

Got to love hobby wing ! Never let’s you down!

[@HardcoreRC]

Hobbywing are deffo the bashers ESC of choice

[@robsrcinsanity1220]

You guys are definitely the send it kings! 👍🏻🍻

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - the boys do like to see how high they can get the cars 😂😂

[@TheBibleListener]

You should check Thunder rc out

[@michaelrc9098]

Loving the clips in the beginning 😜

[@HardcoreRC]

Glad you like then, just try to pick out some good bits to get people into the mood 😂😂

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Awesome rc's and upgrade, cool bashing

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks 👍

[@williamoleary9330]

That first send was just amazing. I have all the electronics the Talion and for us the thing is just crazy fast and durable. The only real upgrade we did was the servo and this thing is beast. When the went on sale for Black Friday back in 2021 we bought two of them for $319 US. I mean only Horizon/Arrma does unbelievably awesome things for their Customers. Same thing for the Fire Team. It dropped to $399 a few months back. Just awesome!!

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you - sadly they only do those deals in the USA though, not to all their customers around the rest of the world, for example the Fireteam in the UK costs $880 Also not sure whats going on but a lot of the Arrma cars just went into discontinued status on their website

[@sobarc]

Excellent mod on the esc and great bashing video yet again.

[@HardcoreRC]

Many thanks, glad you enjoyed 👍👍

[@boomerak4774]

Wow that kraton was flying!

[@HardcoreRC]

Just needs wings 😂😂

[@boomerak4774]

@@HardcoreRCI agree! 😅

[@FarmerFpv]

Great tip HC Crew. Heads up for people doing this, Don't use JB Weld. It's conductive and will short your ESC. Using regular epoxy is perfect. I know a few guys who put JB Weld even after I warned them not to. They had a bad day. 😂

[@HardcoreRC]

OMG JB Weld must have been a nasty result, what an earth possessed them ? was it after seeing this video and things JB weld would be better ?

[@FarmerFpv]

@@HardcoreRC I don't know I think they're just crazy. lol.

[@HardcoreRC]

@@FarmerFpv Crazy or like fireworks 😂😂

[@CasinovaGaming]

Jb weld epoxy? Or jb weld steel stuff. I bought jb weld epoxy because it had a higher psi strength. Haven't done the mod yet as I just seen your comment

[@OnTheEDge2011]

Kitchen RC..... AMAZING

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks you, need to do in the kitchen as garage is cold and waiting to build my work shop 😂

[@OnTheEDge2011]

@@HardcoreRC nice! Keep it going. I Love your vids

[@HardcoreRC]

@@OnTheEDge2011 Thank you and we will do our best 👍👍

[@michaelhale4918]

I wonder if hot glue would have the same effect? 🤔

[@HardcoreRC]

No it wouldn't, far to flexible, the actual potting on the ESC is made from epoxy so your just adding to that

[@alphaplus4162]

Great setup hobbywing maxx 4 would be awesome to see.....

[@HardcoreRC]

Max4 is a series piece of kit, not sure we really have anything for it to fit in though. Thanks for watching

[@Top-Jimmy]

Not in a 1/8 Chassis man, massive overkill, Probably wouldn't fit anyway, The Max 4 is for the 1/4 - 1/5 Niche...The Max 5 fits but even then its overkill. Max 6 Gen 2 is the sweet spot for these chassis' or even the Gen 1 as seen here are excellent for all of Arrma's 6s line.

[@twrecks116]

Hubble-Bubble!! 😂😂. Your Expressions i Look Forward to as Much as the Bashing!! 🏆😎

[@HardcoreRC]

Hehe - i ill try to keep coming up with some, they just roll off my tongue for some reason 😂😂

[@redblue40rc33]

BIG QUESTION.... Xmaxx cogs really loud....18/54 stock gears....pins in "letter I" position....pinion presses hard against spur gear.. Tried spacers, washers to jack up motor mount but washers make work their way thru plastic....I have HR aluminum motor mount with pins.....annnnnny suggestion what to do or just drive the uggerduggermothetrucker till the tumble wumbles fall off??????😂😂😂😂 stock plastic mount is no different neither

[@HardcoreRC]

I have not tried 54/18 so not sure if there is a mesh issue with the pins, i have heard people say on the bigger gears the pins dont work, so you could remove the pins and use these to set the mesh manually: www.modelsport.co.uk/product/traxxas-x-maxx-aluminium-motor-mount-washers-blue-anodized-406027 Other option is to make sure nothing is bent, had a similar issue and took me ages to work out that my Hot Racing spur was actually egg shaped

[@redblue40rc33]

@@HardcoreRC I got the washers in there already and but I don't bash it ....it's just like that tight normally out of box ...nothing's bent...cush thing may be wore out...

[@HardcoreRC]

@@redblue40rc33 What i mean is to remove the pins and set the mesh yourself, easiest way to do that is a piece of paper between the sput and pinion then tightne up the screws

[@redblue40rc33]

@@HardcoreRC it doesn't work without pins either ..it's just a tight fit either way...I'll just run it till it grinds gears to a perfect fit...I'ma do a Kevin Talbot on it... 😂....tell him I said hello... 😂

[@lexsteel12]

Great bashing session, guys. I love your bashing spot. I really wish I had such a spot near me where I live. Unfortunately, spots such as yours are too far from where I live. And also, great tip on beefing up the Max6.

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - this spot isnt near me, its a 70 mile drive each way, but worth it to meet up with everyone and its also a good spot 👍

[@illhairacing3543]

Hey so I just bought a max 5 esc and since I got it it’s been flashing red light idk what to do I have steering and the sec fan is working the controller is brand new and receiver, i tried another controller and did the same thing so I really need help and when I tried to calibrate it when I’m in neutral position and hold full throttle to switch the next position I get no beeps

[@HardcoreRC]

What radio are you using ? make sure its set to center position on channel 2 and make sure no ABS brakes are turned on

[@illhairacing3543]

@@HardcoreRC I am using the spectrum DX3 the one that comes with the Arrma felony controller it’s brand new so I don’t think it’s the receiver

[@illhairacing3543]

I’m just really confused

[@HardcoreRC]

@@illhairacing3543 It could well be the reeceiver as pretty sure they have AVC built in, you may need to bind it again, have seen quite often thy dont come correctly bound out the box.

[@illhairacing3543]

@@HardcoreRC so bind the receiver to the controller again? Okay I’ll try that and let you know because I honestly don’t know what is going on

[@camaroboy383]

Excellent info Dave..👍.. Hope all is well with you guy's..

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks Alden, all good hear although the boys are isolating due to testing positive for COVID - hope all is ok with you

[@camaroboy383]

@@HardcoreRC ugh.. yeah I had a bout with that a couple weeks ago.. sucks to be isolated.. lol.. I'm on the uphill my friend.. my health is finally starting to turn around so I'm happy with that my friend...

[@HardcoreRC]

@@camaroboy383 Thats great news, hopefully you return to full health again very soon

[@alexbrackley3169]

That Kraton of yours has taken some serious abuse mate 😁. Great Vid 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

It sure has, need to find time to give it a full strip down really

[@michaelmontano2111]

What size pinen do u got in your kraten I'm running a 13T and satfied

[@HardcoreRC]

Will depend on the motor being used - with the 1650kv motor we run between a 19 and 21 tooth pinion

[@michaelmontano2111]

I'm running the stock spectrum and my Creighton 6s I know I could go a lot faster than the 13 tooth pinion I just don't want to overheat it I just bought the Mac 6 hobby wing ESC because my stock ESC and it burned out haven't even had the truck a month also had to replace the servo what seems to be a good car other than that I just want to be able to bash and go fast like the rest of you guys

[@HardcoreRC]

@@michaelmontano2111 Dont try to go faster on the Stock Spektrum ESC, it will melt and could take your car with it, sounds like you have a Max6 ESC to replace it with, in which case you should be ok on 15 tooth pinion, just keep an eye on temps

[@michaelmontano2111]

Thank u that's what I was looking for

[@davidgoodrich1258]

I have the max 10 and am having trouble finding a rocket fan that fits with the right connector. All the 25mm fans I’m finding have the wrong connection

[@HardcoreRC]

Its fairly easy to change the connector, just by the connectors you need and then put the pins on with a pair of pliers, or you can get crimping tools that help. Sadly the 25mm fans do only come with those connectors

[@littmoto]

Super nice video!😍

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you 🤗 glad you like and thank you for watching 👍👍

[@samcourtrc6767]

Dave that’s awesome buddy

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks 👍👍

[@rcchallenge8626]

Great vid Dave 😎

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks 👍

[@fernandobranco9590]

hello mate, has it ever happened to you with the max 6 that your rc stops and the red light flashes after 5 minutes of running?

[@HardcoreRC]

Dont recall that ever happening, have you looked up the error codes to see what it says ?

[@fernandobranco9590]

@@HardcoreRC Thanks for the reply, I'll try to see what I can find. but unfortunately I still don't understand much about rc, I just started in this rc world this month😉

[@HardcoreRC]

@@fernandobranco9590 Thats ok - if you google Max6 error codes you should get stuff come up that you can then match to the flashing you are getting, it will depend on how its flashing etc to what the error could be - like 3 flashes, 4 flashes etc

[@NoNo1406]

Hello, I have a question max6 Does it work with any engine?

[@HardcoreRC]

Not with any engine - has to be within a certain KV level - the instructions which can be found online will tell yi the level

[@carlosrubio7455]

Hola llevo Max 6 G2 y 4990 , lo he programado sin protección, y 180 km h se me corta y se cae voltaje. Sabes por qué puede pasar??? Llevo 2 baterías de 4s zeee 120c y la app marca mínimo voltaje 23v . No sé por qué corta si lo he programado sin protección. Ayúdame por favor

[@HardcoreRC]

I would say the Zee lipos are the issue, they suck bad, likely not the capacity they claim to be, and they suffer from really bad voltage sag

[@carlosrubio7455]

@@HardcoreRC llevo piñón de 33t y corona 46t tú crees que es el problema?? Que baterías me recomiendas?? Gen ace negras 8000 mah 100c ???

[@carlosrubio7455]

@@HardcoreRC gracias por todo

[@j4ypl4y60]

Nice vid Dave. Ill be adding the resin to my max6. Already done my fan mod. Didnt know my hoody was so bright orange must be you cam.

[@HardcoreRC]

Deffo worth doing on your Talion, we have had 3 Max6 lose blow the cups out. Its likely the Gopro color settings that lift the colors

[@samcourtrc6767]

Is that the v3 max6 I’m thinking of getting one for my limitless would it get to a 100mph that can take 8s am I right in saying that

[@HardcoreRC]

Yes its the V3 Max6, we have had both our limitless's and the big rock to over 100mph using a Max6 with the 1650kv (111mph) and 1100kv (112mph) motors all on 7s

[@samcourtrc6767]

@@HardcoreRC that’s awesome Dave my in infraction has the mmx8s with the castle 1520 1650kv motor and I got 130mph with it but there was more in it I had to stop because I ran out of road but my limitless has the v2 electronics in it out of my infraction the motor is the 2050kv with the Spectrum esc but I’m thinking of the max6 esc with the 2050 motor because my friend has the v1 infraction all stock with the max6 with the stock motor it’s the 2050kv blx and he got 112 mph so the motor can take it but it was hot hot but good for one good speed run then let it cool

[@HardcoreRC]

@@samcourtrc6767 Max6 would deffo be the better ESC for sure, but for best speed run Castle is deffo the way to go, they just give out more power, the HW have to many safety features that cut the power, makes them good for bashing and mild speed running

[@samcourtrc6767]

@@HardcoreRC yes big mate ur right there well Dave it’s alway a pleasure to talk with you buddy thanks for the info ur a gentleman matey thank u again lots of love to ur family from mine

[@EJ-74]

That's what she said 😂 Awesome upgrade David Love the EXB Kraton 🔥👍✌️

[@HardcoreRC]

Hehe thanks - she is feeling her age a bit right now, need to give her a good strip down and service

[@vitodambra72]

Dave i miss your videos & lives!!! 😉👍🏽💯 Hope all is well brother

[@JPRC_CRAZINESS]

Great mod!! I like it😎

[@HardcoreRC]

Glad you like it - working really well for us

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

I got the max6, maybe i should consider getting the fan and epoxy for mine, already broke a fan blade

[@HardcoreRC]

i would highly recommend, these fans take a huge amount of abuse, and we have had the cups bow out of 3 max6 ESC until i started adding the Epoxy , just keep the resin away from the pins and dont get it down inside the cups

[@restinpiecesrc5528]

@@HardcoreRC yeah thatd be bad lol

[@CorvetteC6-LS2]

Questions which one is better the max5 or mx6 ? I looking for max5 and 1100kv 5687 ? What the different?

[@HardcoreRC]

Not really a question of which is better as comes down the the application you are using the ESC in and the power demand of that car. the bigger the car the bigger the ESC. Max8 is really for 8th Scale, Max6 for 6th Scale, Max5 for 5th scale etc

[@CorvetteC6-LS2]

@@HardcoreRC ohh ok i understand soo max5 for my outcast exb 1/5

[@CorvetteC6-LS2]

@@HardcoreRC i ask because people say the max5 has more power than max6 I am new to the hobbies i trying to put the good combo in my outcast...i found the combo only whit the max6+1100kv or 800kv

[@HardcoreRC]

@@CorvetteC6-LS2 Its not really that it has more power, it can handle more amps, Max5 is rated to 200 amps and Max6 to 160amps, but at the same time the bigger ESC can not handle higher Kv motors, so you wont put a Max5 with a 2200kv motor as you would fry the Max5

[@HardcoreRC]

@@CorvetteC6-LS2 Either the Max5 or the Max6 would work,but to allow more overhead in power draw go with the max5

[@brianwallace4842]

Is a max 10 2s to 4s better than a Traxxas VXL 4s ?

[@HardcoreRC]

Sorry i cant answer as i dont really know anything about the VXL 4s ESC, i do know the Max10 is a solid ESC though and would say thats a safer bet, likely cheaper as well

[@customrcupgrades2116]

Great idea

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank you! Cheers! thank you for watching

[@watersidebashers.9792]

Great video Dave as always thanks for showing that fan mod will definitely do this to my rigs and thank you for looking at are channel I would like to say are channel is run by my self Chris and my mate Gavin the big monster motor with all the mods is Gavin’s xmaxx and my xmaxx is the stock keep them vids coming top work hardcore

[@HardcoreRC]

Thank and your most welcome, i like to help support others as much as i can, keep up the good work

[@watersidebashers.9792]

@@HardcoreRC thanks hardcore means a lot we have a great little rc family going on and we are just trying to have fun and build are channel 1 sub at a time looking forward to your next vid 👍

[@HardcoreRC]

@@watersidebashers.9792 it is slow to start with, but then all of a suddeln the sub count starts to grow, its a bit like a snowball effect

[@thejeepinrealtor5742]

MAX6 with HW 1650 motor and 18t pinion in my exb!

[@HardcoreRC]

Nice - same combo but running with 21t 👍

[@teamjono69]

I have a Max 6 esc and motor combo I won on hobby comps... and I don't have a car decent enough to put them in!!!!

[@HardcoreRC]

Good to meet you today, keep hold of as im sure you will find a car to put them in soon enough 👍

[@teamjono69]

@@HardcoreRC likewise! Yeah I’ll find something!

[@drroomba5045]

Great video and tips. What goo do you put under the motor to support it ? Thanks

[@HardcoreRC]

I put a 3d printed wedge under it from Bigfoot customs facebook.com/BigfootCustomsUk/ and then secure it with CT1

[@wroman786]

Does it plug right up into the esc or have to change the plugs ?

[@HardcoreRC]

No need to change the plugs as the epoxy goes around them, just don't get any down the cups

[@wroman786]

@@HardcoreRC sorry. I meant if the new upgraded fan plug right up to the max 6 esc ?

[@HardcoreRC]

@@wroman786 Plugs in as comes with a JST plug

[@kentnichols4743]

awesome video

[@HardcoreRC]

Glad you enjoyed it 👍👍

[@paulosrcs185]

Will it fit in my big rock and will it make it much better? Loving the content BTW 👌

[@HardcoreRC]

The Max6 does fit but you have to make your own mount on top of the receiver box, its is a bit over kill for the Big Rock unless you are looking to do speed runs with it, this is the ESC we use for our 105mph Big Rock

[@paulosrcs185]

@@HardcoreRC thanks for getting back to me much appreciated 🙏👍

[@THEMASKEDMASTER]

✌🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 I’m thinking of starting up a pot/cash pool. Everyone throws in £50 with a guess of who’s going through that roof 1st 😂.

[@HardcoreRC]

It would have paid off as someone hit it two weeks ago - didnt go through though

[@THEMASKEDMASTER]

@@HardcoreRC did you catch it on video. It never happened unless it was caught on camera 😂

[@HardcoreRC]

@@THEMASKEDMASTER Was caught on a live stream, but then edited out. The driver has been in contact with the council about the damage

[@mesodan]

Maybe you could 3D print something to protect the cap packs?

[@HardcoreRC]

might be able to - bit of an occupational hazard with he way we bash tough 😂

[@subyrick]

Hey David i was wondering how reliable is the max 6. Because my stock 6s firma esc burnt out after 1 and a half years in my kraton i want to switch to a max 6.

[@HardcoreRC]

Max6 is very reliable from my experience, the only issue we have had is the motor cups getting pulled out on very hard landings or crashes - had happen twice, but they were hard landings, hence why we now add the epoxy

[@subyrick]

@@HardcoreRC thank you very much for your imput. Ive been seeing you and kev using the max6 for a while and thought i should try one. Ps. Ill never send it to the moon like you guys and kev. My original chassie is still straight haha

[@HardcoreRC]

@@subyrick Personably i think the Max6 is one of the best ESC's you can get and would put it in all our 1/8 1/7th scale cars Main things is that you have fun no matter how hard or high you send it, everyone is different to what they do to have fun 👍👍👍👍

[@christheridge2179]

Great fun video. You still using the 2200kv motor? What was broken at the end?

[@HardcoreRC]

Thanks - we run the Max6 and 1650kv motor in the Kraton EXB, only thing really stopping it running was the mesh was knocked out, servo was dead and rear tower to tower brace cup was snapped. Not to bad from landing from that height onto concrete

[@Anton-gz1go]

Nice! I have 2 question: 1. Are you using the stock wing mount? 2. I have a max 8 combo with 2200kv motor. If I upgrade to max 6 should I keep the motor or buy one with less kv?

[@HardcoreRC]

We use the RPM Wing mount, boiled for 10 mins and left to cool in the water and then soaked in GT85 for 24 hours (WD40 also works) Max6 still works with the 2200kv motor so should be good, just dont try to run it on82 with that motor 😂

[@Anton-gz1go]

Thanks!

[@angelogallegos1400]

@@Anton-gz1gohow’s it running for you I’m using the same combo and I’m getting non stop overheating

[@Anton-gz1go]

I did end up buying the max6 esc with a 1650kv motor running a 22t pinion. Loads of power and speed and for my taste the perfect spec for bashing. On hot summer days it still overheats sometimes but on normal days it’s perfect. If you go for the max6 I would also upgrade the motor because your stock motor will still overheat. I also heard that the max8 G2 is very good. It has more power and less overheating issues. What pinion are you currently running on? If you go for the max6, drill a hole in the top and put a small screw in, it keeps the fan alive.

[@bryanpeterson7720]

You should put on a Kevin Talbot mask

[@HardcoreRC]

Why ? do you fancy him or something ?

[@onemansvideos2134]

I m surprised hobbywing hasn't released new versions of the max6 and max5

[@mesodan]

If it’s not broken…😅

[@HardcoreRC]

Think a new one was supposed to be coming to use the port on the motor, but then again they current ones all work great for bashing

[@HardcoreRC]

Very true 👍

[@onemansvideos2134]

@@mesodan true but it would be nice to have more tuning options on it

[@benbishop1864]

Run the esc fan off the receiver rather than the esc port and it’ll have a lot more grunt

[@HardcoreRC]

Same power from both, only way to up it would be to turn the ESC up toe 7.4v but then need a HV servo, seems to pump out plenty of airflow at the 6v though

[@benbishop1864]

@@HardcoreRC not as stable though it’s almost like the voltage pulses off the esc port and the fan sounds slightly slower

[@HardcoreRC]

@@benbishop1864 interesting, not noticed that but you have me thinking now, might grab a multi meter and test them out

[@benbishop1864]

@@HardcoreRC I found it was the same with my max10sct also I’ve seen a few others do it and a couple of mate do also If you just grab an extension from the receiver and try it to compare it just sounds different as well

[@HardcoreRC]

@@benbishop1864 Will check it out - thanks

[@surfside75]

You really dont want to see the condition my 1.3 yr old Mojave custom basher is in..😱😑 -if it goes fast and holds together, im happy. (really tough conditions in WNC. Rocks/roots, snow, mud/water etc) .. body stiched together with zipps👍 truck held together with hope❤😁

[@HardcoreRC]

Thats the size of a good well used car, no point having them and keeping them on shelves to look at 👍👍👍

[@redblue40rc33]

At the hobby shop buying 30% car fuel sidewinder and glow igniter...woohoo for me.. 😂😂😂😂

[@HardcoreRC]

Nice, i need to get an nitro, do love the smell and the sound of them

[@BBFPV]

Upgradet to 161 amps 😅

[@HardcoreRC]

😂😂

[@twrecks116]

Second!! 🏆🤗

[@HardcoreRC]

Almost! just got pipped into third - sorry

[@jeffaltman1900]

I'll never understand why people abuse an r/c like this. Why not just throw them off a bridge or take a hammer to it. Build challenging track with modest jumps that will challenge your skill set.

[@HardcoreRC]

Everyone has different things they enjoy, if we all liked the same things the world would be a boring place, most of the time the cars come home undamaged, throwing off a bride or taking a hammer to it would always cause damage, part of the fun it testing skill to be able to jump and land correctly, driving round a track is a totally different skill and is fun in a different way.

[@jeffaltman1900]

@HardcoreRC I stand corrected and couldn't agree more with you. Ultimately we're all in this hobby for smiles 😃 and my crass comment earlier was uncalled for...keep your finger on the throttle that's where mine will be soon (hopefully).

[@Rust_valley_adventures]

Big boned version of Kevin Talbot

[@HardcoreRC]

Is that good or bad ?

[@Rust_valley_adventures]

@@HardcoreRC you have better teeth than Talbot

[@HardcoreRC]

@@Rust_valley_adventures LOL, that im not sure about, im missing a few now due to my age 😂😂

I understand you need an epic thumbnail for the clicks, but how does this give the ESC more power?! Kind of misleading...

[@HardcoreRC]

Its more power than the Max6 we had in the car with the messed up Caps, it is a fine line between having a thumbnail that makes people click and also them then watching, high click through rate and low retention is not good, but then high retention and low click through is also not good

@HardcoreRC Well, ok if you put it that way. It has indeed more power than a busted max6...

[@uhh482]

Parachute!!!?...Anybody🤯🤦

[@Emily_xx5]

First

[@HardcoreRC]

Back to normal service 👍👍