Mut'ah From The Sunni Point Of View Today? | Differing Opinions | Mufti Abu Layth

Taken from Mufti Abu Layth’s weekly livestream, Meaning with MALM #21 | Own Your Destiny: • Own Your Destiny | Mea...

[@hassimscycles]

What I would do to get 1 more "MONDAY NIGHTS WITH MUFTI" 😭

[@RoseGold-db6xe]

I wish everyone was as open minded as this man. Mashallah

[@sazimi101]

Beautifully put

[@fifafreebies8941]

Both sunnis and shia agree mutah was allowed in early islam. but sunnis (generally) believe it is abrogated whereas shia believe it is not abrogated. but even in sunni books it is mentioned that certain sahaba and tabieen belived it was halal like Jabir, Ibn Abbas and Asma bint Abu bakr etc from sahaba and tawoos, ibn jurayj and Saeed bin Jubair etc . Mutah cant be classed as zina as zina is considered a فَـٰحِشَةًۭ (immorality) in the Quran . And the shariah will never promote فَـٰحِشَةًۭ . And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse. Indeed, it is ever an immorality ( فَـٰحِشَةًۭ )and is evil as a way. 17:32 Quran

[@diltodnewale6642]

my favorite topic

[@drcheekyisback]

You naughty naughty!!!! 😂

[@onlyabdelix]

@@drcheekyisback you teasing me you naughty naughty 😆

[@jenny-DD]

This Mufti saved me from leaving Islam

[@bigboywasim]

Alhumdulillah

[@mgtowdadYouTubeSucksCoxks]

maybe one day soon.

[@fgd9775]

How?

[@user-ml7dr4bz9l]

Elaborate

[@user-ml7dr4bz9l]

​@fgd9775 Yes, same question I have in my mind

[@crackhead69420]

Assalamu Alaykum, can I please get your discord server's invite?

[@DarioHaruni]

Ibn Jurayj, whose alleged tafsir is the earliest we have, advocated for Mut'ah marriage and he contracted about 60-70 Mut'ah marriages.

[@mohammadilyas5396]

Bro, he did رجوع from it. قال ابن جريج يومئذ:" إشهدوا أني قد رجعت عنها بعد ثمانية عشر حديثا أروي فيها لا بأس بها" Oh people be a witness that I have done رجوع (taken back my opinion) from Muta'h although after narrating 18 Ahadeeth that its fine to do it. (Munsad Abi Awanah)

[@onnixchaney8797]

Salam alaykum I hope this finds you well. What is the name of the book, Could you provide a link to it?

[@hendersond5990]

Can you put the link for the book please

[@swordoftree]

Reminds me of when you talk to women about polygamy they turn around and say, "Would you like it if a woman has more than one man?"

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

I would like honest scholars not infected with the need to apologise for the legalities in the Q to do the following: 1. Discuss the law in the Q in terms of itself without the Abassid era of innovations. 2. Discuss the law in the the traditions in terms of itself without conflating it with the Q. 3. Discuss the legal tradition in terms of itself. Because it is obvious that those are three entirely separate things. For example, by definition in the Q zina is adultery and it doesn't have fornication. Yet, it is not conceived of like that in the legal tradition. Also obvious in the Q is that one could marry the captive but required her permission, yet in the legal tradition one doesn't require the permission of the captive. Also, the words for slave, and that which your right hand possess isn't synonymous in the Q but is in the legal tradition. Meaning, in the legal tradition the doorway to concubinage is slavery. Not so in the Q. The doorway to that in the Q is consent. There are scores upon scores of issues that must be ironed out. What about the issue of abrogated verses that are law making. Isn't that similar to refusing to obey the laws of the Q? Or is it because the Q contradicts itself (and I have read it hundreds of time, it most certainly doesn't).

[@noamansattar]

After listening to this.. How can now one trust sunni (deobandi & barelvi) ulema regarding mutah. They used to curse Shia due to this. Sunni ulema also used to curse life insurance, tv, jeans, short beard, niqab less women etc. But all these are widely accepted now. MUFTI: plz elaborate on these issues

[@batman-sr2px]

Why not? Mutah was permissible only in early Islam because that was the culture. It was banned and there isn't disagreement just like alcohol.

[@taj-sid]

@@batman-sr2px There is huge disagreement. The only issue is that Mutah is mischaracterised as the casual hook up culture of the west, which gives huge difficulty of debate.

[@Sum_Ting_Wong]

@@batman-sr2px banned by who, the prophet?

[@batman-sr2px]

@@Sum_Ting_Wong it was banned by Umar, close companion of the prophet, and the rest of the caliphs and Muslims understood and followed. Mutah was allowed by the prophet and early Muslims temporarily just like alcohol had leeway early on. It was never meant to be forever.

[@DesignbyBK]

Mutah is halal under certain conditions. Just like sex is halal with women from maal e ghanimat during wars.

[@khadijatulkubra207]

As mufti says if you agree or disagree, you are entitled to either view. If one feels mutah is wrong then nikkah misyar should be too. Marriage is a contract and just like any other contracts, one is inclined to think the same rules apply. I can see pros and cons of both so I'm happy to stick to the standard contract where marriage is for life 💓

[@ShiaRafidhiAkhbariIslam]

Can you show me where your prophet mentioned misyar in your hadiths?

[@TehDwelleR]

agreed.. As Shaafi says there’s a valid ikhtelaf on it Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said: i don’t say it is haram but i forbid myself from it. ibn ashur, shawkani too i think, many malikis and sunni scholars approve. it’s first time of shears rhet ibn taimiyahs grandad approved. salafis punching the air rn. Ibn taimiyah did say it is not repulsive to fitrah else it wouldn’t have been halal in the prophetic times

[@tajuddinjehan2045]

2:33 May I know which Hidayah book the Mufti is referring to ?

[@sarimjilani1937]

It is the main book of hanafi fiqh

[@tajuddinjehan2045]

@@sarimjilani1937 All right thanks a lot

[@yahiyakhan6546]

In my knowledge the world is moving irrespective of religions to the direct of mutah.

[@noorahamid3376]

On another not: Mufti, will you be commenting on Daniel's recent debate with saffiyah and his sexist views on education for women?

[@fahadalam4648]

Check his latest episode ..he speaks about the issue of Danny boooi and the girls education debate

[@noorahamid3376]

@@fahadalam4648 thanks, I watched it. I thought he’d elaborate more deeply about it.

[@achannel1818]

"If divorce is halal then why don't you divorce your wife". That's the logic of the idiots who say "then give me your sister".

[@t-rexkalita1379]

Halala is wrong which muslims practice with their own sisters.

[@achannel1818]

@@t-rexkalita1379 you seem like a nice guy

[@t-rexkalita1379]

@@achannel1818 Thanks

[@dathrakki4892]

Mufti: what's the best way/platform to make contact with you?

[@sparephone8228]

It is interesting that Muhammad Asad in his entire tafseer of the Qur'aan never once mentions the concept of 'mutah' because it was never the practice of the Prophet[saw]. What it seems to me is that it is better than prostitution, but completly ignores the Qur'aan, where marriage requires a dowry and witnesses and for a man and women to divorce [talaq] there is a waiting period of 3 monthly menstrual cycles, since the point of the waiting period is to see if the woman is pregnant and alllows the couple to make a more reasoned decision if they really want to divorce. Based on the spirit of the legal injuctions in the Qur'aan, 'mutah' marriage is not in the best interests of Muslims today.

[@amarabidali5316]

mut'ah has the same id'a period

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

But ibn Kathir mentions it and Tabari and so many other classical scholars. I haven't read Ibn Ashur but this Mufti probably has.

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

BTW marriage in terms of the Q doesn't require witnesses, only divorce. In terms of the legal tradition there is even disagreements on whether it should be witnessed at the time of reading the formula for the contract or just publicly declared before consummation or even according to some, afterwards! Even Muta requires a dowry and a waiting period though a lesser waiting period that 3 months according the the Shia who are the only people who have an actual jurisprudence around the practice. Also it is simply deduced that the point of the waiting period is to see if the woman is pregnant. Becareful not to make the deduced reason the actual reason because we can now test with 100% accuracy after a a day or two whether the woman is pregnant. So shouldn't there be the waiting period?

[@sparephone8228]

@@amarabidali5316 how ? suposedly mutah is a marriage for a fixed term.

[@amarabidali5316]

@@sparephone8228 yes and the female who does it has to do id'a after it expires the same way a female who is divorced must do id'a.

[@hakunamatata3935]

Whats the difference between Mutah and zina? Is there any? If so, plz explain. Don't waste your time quoting so and so.

[@jivaji2028]

Whats the difference between pig meet and beef? One is prescribed as haram other one isnt...that's all, if pig was halal we would all eat it...

[@sadofaraji5999]

You mean Prophet aleihi salaam did permit Zina in your arrogance opinion.

[@MrMalmir]

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of (tales or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and durnig the time of Abu Bakr until 'Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr b. Huraith. Sahih Muslim 1405d

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

What people often miss is that rules in any law are circumstantial. Some people can't get married to begin with because they do not possess the means to do so, yet marriage in itself is recommended. Polygyny is allowed, but it doesn't mean that it is good for everyone to practice it. Temporary marriage, at best, could be invoked in exceptional circumstances where permanent marriage is not a possibility and where people fear sin- if it were to be considered as permissible. That is consistent with the system of 'need' in law. Ordinarily to eat dead meat and pig are impermissible until there is need and there is nothing else to eat. My take is that the tradition prohibiting temporary marriage and the eating of donkey meat sets up a paradigm. If other meat (means) are available don't eat donkey meat. But if other meat isn't available, and there is a range of impermissible meat, donkey meat being closest to what is permissible, would first become permissible. When viewed in this way temporary marriage does not compete with permanent marriage nor does it undermine it. However, in Shia jurisprudence it often does compete with and or undermine permanent marriage because in many instances a temporary wife is kept on permanently (99 years) so as to have women with reduced rights (she doesn't have the same rights as a permanent wife). In that way temporary marriage is treated as being equivalent to concubinage. Legally, however, there is nothing, except modern scholarly consensus, that prohibits concubinage to begin with because the issue is conflated with slavery in terms of jurisprudence.

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

@Dri Ven I don't find any textual or cultural reference to monogamy having been the norm of the 7th century Arabs. Nor does the Q specify monogamy as a norm. I think society sets norms. Monogamy is the norm after having been institutionalized in recent history under Christianity.

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

@Dri Ven also there is no Q reference stating that marriage is for the sake of children. Some people get married even though they are unable to have children. Marriage is so that people are able to find repose in each other. It's not certainty that married people will have children.

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

@Dri Ven context is the key to your answer. Go and read the entire context of 4:129.If you are prepared to listen, I will take the time to explain the context. But if you are not interested, that's not a problem. It's also not true that the verse is saying you should marry the orphans to protect them. (4:2-3). Neither is 4:127 about marrying orphans. In fact the major feature of all these verses is that it talks about not usurping the wealth of orphans and men who after marrying women are reluctant to spend fairly on them and are unfair. But I am willing to share an entire commentary on these verses that clearly and contextually describe what it is actually talking about. There isn't a monogamous narrative in the Qur'an in an of itself. Everything is linked to practicing fairness and in that regard it mostly refers to looking after women with your wealth.

[@hammadhussain4422]

Strange you said that in shia school of thought a temporary wife is kept permanently. This is a self contradictory statement....a temporary thing can not be permanent and vice versa. Aa per my knowledge, in shia jurisprudence , the duration of mutta marriage cannot be extended once fixed. Comparing a wife with concubine is not correct so is the statement that in shia jurisprudence it undermines permanent marriage. In shia jurisprudence, if you study in detail, a woman cannot marry without permission of Vali ( father and grandfather) and it is recommended for virgins not to do mutta . Thus, the women population left for this kind of marriage are , divorced, widows and non Muslim ( people of book) . These women are highly vulnerable to fall into prostitution or might be exploited in another way . Mutta give them social and financial protection and a chance to find a permanent husband .

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

@@hammadhussain4422 that's because in Shia jurisprudence you can contract a marriage for up to 99 years. So technically the marriage falls under temporary marriage rules which are lighter than permanent marriage rules. 99 years is permanent. They also use this to circumvent the limitation of 4 wives. For example, one man has 4 permanent wives and 6 temporary wives contracted for 99 years each. That in effect gives him ten permanent wives.

[@fuadyunus2433]

Just how migrating to dar ul kufr, dar ul harb, dar ul fitnah, dar ul fassad, got sugar coated to being "permissible" even though MUSLIMS wholeheartedly know & acknowledge that they are the second if not third class citizens in those countries! Just like that, based on necessity and given situations, let mut'ah be a thing!

[@talharahman1980]

Mutaah is better than total Zina that's for sure. Offcourse people misuse Mutaah. I think Mutaah should only be illegal in countries where Permanent marriage has no bad outcomes if divorce happens such as Alimony and forced Child-Benefit. But I think Mutaah as a means to get to know a woman temporarily before you marry her permanently.

[@JhutaNabi]

The doctrine of Mut’ah is very confusing. If Mut’ah is haram, where in the Quran has it been declared so? Now, if it is made haram outside of the Quran then on what basis can something outside the eternal word of Allah overrule what Allah said? Also, how is Mut’ah, if agreed to by both parties, practice-wise any different from prostitution in other cultures? Or, mizya for that matter? Peeling back all the ceremonies/beliefs/observances surrounding each, seems like the end game is sex.

[@irfansaeedkhan7242]

where in Quran its written that how to perform salah ? so if there is no way of performing salah then how we pray use some common sense brother, hadith explains the Quran in detailed way, each ayat came with some background story which we get in hadiths

[@JhutaNabi]

@@irfansaeedkhan7242 It’s YOUR logic that lacks common sense. You are comparing apples to oranges. But, let’s go with your point about salah. Allah said to pray, the Hadith elaborates on HOW to obey Allah. Fair enough. OTOH, Mut’ah was decreed by allah, but the Hadith now determines that it’s okay to STOP PRACTICING mutah? How is this not disobedience to allah? If allah decreed mutah, shouldn’t he have sent down a word clearly explaining when and why to stop practicing it? Doesn’t the Quran claim that everything in it is clearly explained? A,so, you still haven’t answered my other questions? How are mutah and mizya any different from prostitution?

[@jacksparow25]

​@@JhutaNabi by that logic monkey meat is also halal bcz Quran doesn't explicitly mentioned it.

[@JhutaNabi]

@@jacksparow25 That is false logic - the argument from silence. Since monkeys aren't mentioned in the Quran, one cannot conclude whether they are halal or haram, either way. So, if the sunnah says they are haram, there is no contradiction. The problem and contradiction here is that mut'ah is declared legal (Halal) in the Quran, but outlawed through the Hadith. On what basis does the sunnah overrule the explicit words of allah in the Quran?

[@jacksparow25]

@JhutaNabi where does the Quran says mutta is halal? If Only Quran is to be taken than why did Allah sent the Prophet. Quran doesn't say how to pray or do wudhu. And by the concensus of scholar anything that is not prohibited by islam is halal. So by that logic monkeys are halal, if not than so does tomato,onions,deer etc bcz non of them is mentioned in Quran as halal.

[@oskadavid2964]

If its in the Quran its allowed full stop , However you don't have to do it neither dose your Mother or Daughter

[@ZeroCelsius777]

Why do people make up their own rules that go against what Quran tells them? If Allah subhana wa ta ala meant for people to only marry on some "temporary" basis he would not have written this... Quran 36:55 & 56... 55...Surely the dwellers of the garden shall on that day be in an occupation quite happy. 56...They and their wives shall be in shades, reclining on raised couches. Quran 43:68 - 70... 68...O My servants! there is no fear for you this day, nor shall you grieve. 69...Those who believed in Our communications and were submissive: 70...Enter the garden, you and your wives; you shall be made happy.

[@themermaidgirl8817]

What's the difference inbetween mutah and prostitution?

[@ttube111]

Ask your mother. She will educate you.

[@themermaidgirl8817]

@@ttube111 not funny, first ask ur parents to teach manners

[@awimosbizzle]

Marriage and prostitution are not the same

[@khadijatulkubra207]

What many don't realise that Sunnis have nikkah misyar, which is still practised today. The only difference between nikkah misyar and mutah, is that women knows when contract will end with mutah, whereas with misyar contract can end without women knowing. As I was mentioning this mufti just touched upon it. With Nikkah misyar women also give up many of their rights. Sometimes we have practices that are similar to others, but are quick to pass judgement 💓

[@Mohammed-gw2nn]

It's the other way round women knows not the men because she has more rights then thee men she decides on the matter as she gives up her rights hence why as ive read ?

[@batman-sr2px]

There is no agreement upon nikah misyar. While others sunnis do allow it not many practice it or acknowledge it.

[@Mohammed-gw2nn]

@@batman-sr2px Yes they both give upon their rights more so the women hence why she decides on the divorce as the dates aren't stipulated as for mutah they both put a date in place ?

[@taym2720]

Nikkah Misyar is only practiced in Saudi or maybe some Gulf countries, which don't even amount to 5% of the muslim population.

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

Misyar is not similar to Mutah. Misyar isn't a limited duration contract. It's simply where a woman waivers her right to maintenance because she has her own money and finally would like to be married but can't easily find a husband.

[@Hazara26]

sing one Hindi song your voice is good.

[@mattgross1143]

If the woman agrees, she agrees, aye? ahhahahahaaaah!

[@t-rexkalita1379]

The real question is mut'a is halal, why is islam not misogynistic??

[@stevenv6463]

How would it be different than dating if it were halal? Is dating misogynistic?

[@t-rexkalita1379]

@@stevenv6463 Mut'a or Misyar are temporary marriages. Its like prostitution. Even today many muslim men go to red light areas and tell the prostitutes to read some passage from quran before having sex for 30 mins or 1 hr. Dating is different than prostitution.

[@balibhai420]

Mut'ah is not one sided..two parties are involved

[@t-rexkalita1379]

@@balibhai420 thats not the point. Why is prostitution allowed?? Thats what i am asking.

[@miseendriste6337]

@@t-rexkalita1379 Do you realise flings exist? One night stands exist? Friends with benefits exist? None of these are prostitution, all of these are consensual sexual relationships between 2 parties. Now would you rather people have these sexual relationships in a way that is Zina, or in a way that it is Halal, comes with an agreed upon contract along with respectability and security?

[@yamazaki4836]

Hazrat Ali (raziallahuanhu) said: Verily the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) of Allah (subhanahu wa taala) banned the mut’ah of temporary marriage and the eating of the meat of domesticated donkeys’ - (Al-Tafsir al-Kabir, III, 287-88)

[@MrMalmir]

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of (tales or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and durnig the time of Abu Bakr until 'Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr b. Huraith. Sahih Muslim 1405d

[@dadagujarati]

Oh really? I've heard many times that Ibn Abbas said that none would have committed zina if Umar RA didn't ban mutah.

[@Yaas_ok123]

David Wood for more information.

[@salimseif5491]

This man is misleading muslims, mutah is kind of zinaa period, you take responsibility in your shoulder by doing this,know that their is a judgment day.

[@fifafreebies8941]

Imam Ibn Hazm provides a list of several of the Sahaba who permitted Nikkah Al Mut'ah. He states: It is firmly established that after the death of the Messenger of Allah, a huge number of the Salaf consider Mut'ah to be halal, and among them were Sahabah. Among those Sahabah are: 1. Asma daughter of Abu bakr 2. Jabir ibn Abdullah 3. Ibn Mas'ud 4. Ibn Abbas 5. Mu'awiyah ibn Abu Sufyan 6. Amr ibn Harith 7. Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri 8. Salamat 9. Ma'bad Abna' Ummayah bin Khalaf [al-Muhalla, by Ibn Hazm, Volume 9, page 519]

[@fifafreebies8941]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6DUnmd8ebl0hqs this video proves it

[@MrMalmir]

So daughter of abubakr did zina?

[@MrMalmir]

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: We contracted temporary marriage giving a handful of (tales or flour as a dower during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and durnig the time of Abu Bakr until 'Umar forbade it in the case of 'Amr b. Huraith. Sahih Muslim 1405d

[@namra7957]

@@MrMalmir Umar bin Khattab(r.a) did the right thing.

[@aceheart5828]

What does one do when he wants to commit some haram..... Search for Layths opinion..... Lol That said I believe he has a moderating role to play..... And even he will mature in time.... Which is OK..... As long as he keeps that laugh, and the entertaining behavioural patterns....

[@batman-sr2px]

The problem with abu layth is he just takes the most liberal opinion to fulfill desires.

[@ra9444]

But no one told you to fulfill your desires, just because it's halal doesn't mean it's good for you.

[@mirza_saabb193]

Salam my bro. Just because the fatwa is unconventional and does not fit the mainstream sentiment does not mean that he is fulfilling his desires. That's a rash assumption. He has corrected/altered some of his previous opinions upon learning new info in the past and has said that he is always willing to challenge his own perspectives. If he was purely desire-driven then he would not do so; he would just stick to his "desirable" views and be unwilling to change. Saying that he just "fulfills desires" is an academically lazy rebuttal.

[@awimosbizzle]

Okay but don’t a lot of men do that with the 4 wives thing? Yup.

[@nemesis1291]

So Islam is making prostitution legal by calling it something else.

[@dadagujarati]

That's not what it is. You sleeping around is promiscuity

[@zayedharoon3910]

Buhahahhaahhahaha mufti

[@RR-om3zx]

What?

[@ninjadebruyns8577]

I would like honest scholars not infected with the need to apologise for the legalities in the Q to do the following: 1. Discuss the law in the Q in terms of itself without the Abassid era of innovations. 2. Discuss the law in the the traditions in terms of itself without conflating it with the Q. 3. Discuss the legal tradition in terms of itself. Because it is obvious that those are three entirely separate things. For example, by definition in the Q zina is adultery and it doesn't have fornication. Yet, it is not conceived of like that in the legal tradition. Also obvious in the Q is that one could marry the captive but required her permission, yet in the legal tradition one doesn't require the permission of the captive. Also, the words for slave, and that which your right hand possess isn't synonymous in the Q but is in the legal tradition. Meaning, in the legal tradition the doorway to concubinage is slavery. Not so in the Q. The doorway to that in the Q is consent. There are scores upon scores of issues that must be ironed out. What about the issue of abrogated verses that are law making. Isn't that similar to refusing to obey the laws of the Q? Or is it because the Q contradicts itself (and I have read it hundreds of time, it most certainly doesn't).