Muzzleloaders For SHTF |

Are Muzzleloaders a viable option for long term survival? Lets talk about the versatility of the .50cal muzzle loader for a long term survival scenario. #muzzleloader #survival #shtf

[@blackpowderpapa]

I own two 50 calibers along with several 44 black powder revolvers for this exact reason. When my other ammo runs out I have thousands of round balls and the means to create more.

[@jonhromeo6108]

I have never even taught of getting into this until now 👍 makes alot of sense tbh

[@guyfoxyinc.8042]

Got any way to replenish black powder?

[@stepabove2136]

I've heard real black powder like goex has indefinite shelf life long as it dry.

[@justin5002]

That’s correct.

[@orckiller91]

Correct, if i recall they found a cask of french and Indian war powder that still was able to be shot

[@patfowler4287]

I have been using BP rifles for 25 plus yrs...and they are part of my plan...you should check out cap and ball hand guns...they will surprise you...love your common sense approach to your channel..thanks

[@65stang98]

man my 1860 army is so accurate in .44. takes a minute to load but if you hit your target it will more than get the job done

[@mickeymantle46]

Well Thought , Well Taken, Easy for consideration, Thanks Cliff. And I like the different set up , of behind the table pointing out the items discussed !!! We appreciate the vids my brother.

[@brettduffy1992]

If a Muzzleloader is all you can own for one reason or another whether it is you made mistakes in your past or you live in a tyrannical state or country it is better than nothing

[@brianalbee4153]

I think there is another reason to own muzzleloaders: If center-fire components and smokeless powder become unavailable (I believe in a grid down scenario they will) those cartridges are precious and best saved for life saving self defense scenarios. Muzzleloaders are easier to procure supplies for in a primitive environment and more than adequate for basic defense and foraging.

[@65stang98]

amen. My cousin makes his own powder out of bat shit and some other stuff im not sure of the process lmao. Melts his own balls out of scrap and has flint for days in the mountains behind him. Hell be able to shoot forever. At least as long as bats keep shitting. @@brianalbee4153

[@Jagdtyger2A]

For those with gunsmithing skill or the $$$ to hire one, a modern version of the Neeedle Rifle would be ideal. If my eyes had not failed me ending my career as a machinist I would have chosen a modified Chassepot designfiring a load consisting of two or three pelletized powder grains held together with a nitrocellulose based glue and to hold the bullet. Such a glue would also make the cartridge stiffer and water proof

[@chesterbarnhardt5346]

You said something about a bullet mold . .36 round ball for small game .45 for deer .54 for elk three rifles and .69 smooth bore for shot Birds on the wing. I cast for 45 caliber bullet for deer ( Lee R.E.A.L.)

[@orckiller91]

I’d even venture to a 40 as a “do it all” caliber but ideally I’d have atleast a 40 and 36 with me

[@boomerrumor8252]

For deep long term shtf, sounds like 50 cal flintlock would be the way to go

[@nickyjohn2389]

The old timers would slowly dribble molten lead in a contaner of water to make bird, and small game shot.

[@taylorharbin3948]

A flintlock is good, but it requires time resources and effort to learn how to properly shape flints. If you already have a cap lock it might be better to go all in with that system and learn how to make primers and such.

[@libbylewis6]

I have a 54 & a 45 rifle a 44 revolver I love them I make my own round ball powder & caps I may run 🏃 out of ammo for modern firearm but I can keep on grid down situation great videos God bless

[@texascelt8363]

I own several black powder rifles and pistols I make my own black powder so have a unlimited supply of it so for shtf I would be grabbing my .50 caliber flintlock Hawkens

[@redneckwithajeep5001]

If you start thinking muzzleloader for theses situations go flintlock nature provides everything it consumes if you know how to make powder your ahead of the game

[@williamgillette4086]

Most reproduction flintlocks suck because the geometry is off. The only fix is a replacement lock if it will fit. If the touch hole and the pan dont line up then you might as well go to a semi custom kit. As for that TC 56 smooth bore. Its a poor club and not much more. Too heavy to use as a shotgun.

[@duanerogers1166]

Don't forget to get ball molds lee makes good molds and can be found at reasonable prices but with the shortage of aluminum they will be getting more expensive another option is to make you own molds out of aluminum

[@orckiller91]

I’ve got the lee molds for every caliber I own, great molds

[@brettduffy7931]

Stay would be good if you couldn't pass a background check for whatever reason I told the doctor I was a gun owner so I'm in that boat but then again there's always Private Sales

[@13bravoredleg18]

A 45 caliber Air Force Texan uses a .457 diameter round ball. You can also use the same round balls in a 44 caliber black powder revolver…

[@SonnyCrocket-p6h]

where will you get the SULPHUR to make black powder? BP is expensive and you need a LOT of it i a muzzleloading rifle, 70 grs or more per shot. 7000 gs in a lb 100 shots per lb.. A .45 round ball is 140 grs, so 50 of them per lb. 3 lbs for 50 shots. 3 lbs of 45 gr Federal subsonic 22lr ammo is 350 shots, the muzzleloader is corrosive, covers your target with smoke, reveals your position, takes 30 seconds to reload, is very noisy, very flashy at night, often draws enough moisture to missfire, neads a lot of work and luck to pull that failed charge. The 22lr autoloding rifle, with a silencer, is lethal to just as far as the Ky rifle, offers 6 its per second, and if you know to hold-shut the 22's bolt, you wont hear it at 50 FEET.

[@StottsCityBrothersInChrist]

Go to your local hardware store or garden store. DIY goes a long way.

[@agentswipe6662]

What are the rifles in this video, makes and models would be appreciated

[@sarahproblem5995]

How about a .44 caliber revolver style rifle?

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

They are risky because in case of chain fire you dont want your hands Infront that cylinder

[@andrewb2111]

I know this vid is 3 years old but I believe I can weigh in on the topic. Having been on the country homestead now going on 3 years, I can tell you that redundancy (backups) to all critical systems is a must. Ie .. I can heat my cabin using 4 different methods. Hawken style muzzleloaders are protected under the "antique firearms" law. That means when the feds come to collect all those nice little AR style rifles, which most of you will hand over willingly, you better have something else to get you by. Furthermore, I can feasibly see our commie in chief going after all cartridge style firearms in lieu of recent events (Canada is already trying). If it happens, you had better have some that are off the books .... or something that was never on the books to begin with. Something off the books which has a specific law protecting it from ATF authority is even better ... like the traditional muzzleloaders and replicas. Furthermore, a backup to that should also be in your bag of tricks ... a good recurve bow for example. Practice with it now before you need to use it.

[@SwampOperator]

Guys like you are always projecting. " which.most of you will hand over willingly ". What you really mean is thst YOU will do it. But you need to make yourself feel better . Illinois just proved that almost all Americans wont surrender or even register their guns. And i love how you act like your muzzleloader is protected under federal law and the "shiny little ar15 " isnt. Sit down my guy... its okay if compliance is your thing. But stop acting like the rest of us dont have a backbone

[@bythebnro7498]

Why can’t u use the 50 cal rifles to shoot the birdshot?

[@mathewgoebel4078]

Those 50. Cal's are rifled. Best to shoot shot out of a smoothboard.

[@taylorharbin3948]

David Canterbury did a video on this. It’s possible.

[@SonnyCrocket-p6h]

A ky rifle is 8 bs, while a silenced, scoped Marlin Papoose, with 6" barrel, so all 22lr ammo is subsonic, and a retractable buttstock, weighs 6 lbs. The 11 lbs of ky rifle and enough powder and shot to fire it 100x, or the silencer, scope, rapidfire and 600 rds of subsonic 22lr for the same weigh and a LOT less bulk? that's a no-brainer . Much more reliability with the 22lr, no corrosion, no filth to have to clean up with each shot. Yu're either flat out nuts or trying to sucker people into such bs, so you can prey upon them with safety. post sht.