Steve has OP Moves - Mew2King explains why

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@TheRealMew2king
@TheRealMew2king 4 жыл бұрын
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@igothebenzandgotbeefinnacookit
@igothebenzandgotbeefinnacookit 4 жыл бұрын
yes I do dad
@blato6105
@blato6105 4 жыл бұрын
You're a god,i love your analysis!
@Frick-bv6xt
@Frick-bv6xt 4 жыл бұрын
Did you cover recovering?
@tommil_ssb3165
@tommil_ssb3165 4 жыл бұрын
I love u m2k ❤️
@ppppppppp-fz4nh
@ppppppppp-fz4nh 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@dc8536
@dc8536 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is gonna be INSANELY difficult to learn, and will feel like garbage to people making day 1 tier lists. I know that in a week, there are gonna be people building redstone computers.
@AvengerSpencer
@AvengerSpencer 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I wanna try to secondary him because he seems like pac my main and fun
@booyaness
@booyaness 4 жыл бұрын
He’s like pac in my mind, need to memorize tons of setups and very situational
@yeetdab8220
@yeetdab8220 4 жыл бұрын
here is a summary of what this vid says is gud, mine a few blocks at start to protect u, mine iron, craft tools, do the forward tilt, edge guard with down tilt, recovery busted, to high edge guard, use blocks to build up then forward aerial. u can also hit ur enemy off early, to give the opportunity to mine blocks.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
Feel like garbage ? Nah, the up B goes pretty far and doesn't require ressources, And weak attack + up tilt are enough to make a good enough neutral and deal with close range . Down tilt is also good against projectiles if you don't wanna place blocks
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
@@booyaness yes, but even pacman can play in a simple a dumb way if he wants, by using Nair and fair over and over
@GenophefeElisabeth
@GenophefeElisabeth 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually a little sad that we didn't get any of the quiet and calm original tracks from the game. Imagine edgeguarding someone to death to the sweet sound of Wet Hands or Sweden :)
@Cheesehead302
@Cheesehead302 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for a super intense version of the iconic environmental teams, but I've heard there were licensing issues? Not sure what this claim was based on but idk if it's something to do with C4 14 being the creator of the music.
@loo524
@loo524 4 жыл бұрын
GenophefeElisabeth Lmao
@galegopaulista4564
@galegopaulista4564 4 жыл бұрын
As a Console Edition player, I'm just so happy to have the minigames represented in the soundtrack. These minigames have so many awesome songs.
@wry6969
@wry6969 4 жыл бұрын
It must've been some other reason besides the fact that it's all calm. I think I saw someone say something about copyright but idk.
@Sax4565
@Sax4565 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I didnt like Sakurai's argument that the music is too calm, there's plenty of calm music in Smash. I mean just look at Electroplancton :D
@PigsSSBM
@PigsSSBM 4 жыл бұрын
Steve clips are gonna be so funny
@emberpowertcg7692
@emberpowertcg7692 4 жыл бұрын
The ledge guarding complimations
@Akodakun
@Akodakun 4 жыл бұрын
"Ahh gotem ggs"
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
Place block 2 blocks under the ledge then up smash lol
@inu7369
@inu7369 4 жыл бұрын
Down Tilt + Dair Ledgeguard Compilations.
@Codeblueninja
@Codeblueninja 4 жыл бұрын
It will be as funny as Bayonetta was.
@M12GProductions
@M12GProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is gonna build a house ON OUR GRAVES.
@isaiahrose9912
@isaiahrose9912 4 жыл бұрын
After digging it and putting us in it
@isaiahrose9912
@isaiahrose9912 4 жыл бұрын
Gotham Thot Slayer “a casual day pillaging and slaughtering innocent villagers and their children” is another way to put it
@nojouniggorou2605
@nojouniggorou2605 4 жыл бұрын
Your gonna be 6 blocks under
@seabassio7126
@seabassio7126 4 жыл бұрын
Hes gonna build an l
@isaiahrose9912
@isaiahrose9912 4 жыл бұрын
Imposter more like 60 blocks under when Steve is done with the match
@indiesongwriter5474
@indiesongwriter5474 4 жыл бұрын
What a unique character. That's what I really want at this point too, unique characters. They don't have to be high or top tier.
@channelisgone4180
@channelisgone4180 4 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the pattern of this fighter pass, adding new gameplay elements that have not been seen before in smash and adding characters that we thought were impossible.
@gillbray2889
@gillbray2889 4 жыл бұрын
@@channelisgone4180 yeah. I really like it. they all have a gimmick. long arms that swap, the 3 weapon thing, I think the only one without a gimmick is parana plant.
@AliVe1234
@AliVe1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@gillbray2889 idk its 3 specials seem kinda unique to me
@evankurasu3190
@evankurasu3190 4 жыл бұрын
Channel is gone ...Byleth is none of those things, for one.
@jeesedm
@jeesedm 4 жыл бұрын
@@gillbray2889 I'm pretty sure piranha plant's gimmick is the fact that it's in the game
@Heebie-Deebies
@Heebie-Deebies 4 жыл бұрын
It's perfect they've emphasised creativity in Steve's moveset, since his heritage is from a game primarily focused on creativity. Smash representation is almost always done so well.
@Marshall.R
@Marshall.R 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait until we have Steve vs Steve matches with UHC rules: You get a grace period where you don't attack each other and focus on getting resources and weapons, setting up traps, placing blocks, etc. and when the grace period ends all hell breaks loose
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I want to drop TNT on all the characters who try to anti air with up smash or up tilt. Imagine dropping tnt then dropping anvil which explodes it.
@Dosplo
@Dosplo 4 жыл бұрын
That would be funny with people just getting the most blocks lol
@justalex528
@justalex528 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, place blocks?? But the blocks only last like a few seconds
@Marshall.R
@Marshall.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@justalex528 you could still place blocks just before the grace period ends to put yourself in a good position
@Cheesehead302
@Cheesehead302 4 жыл бұрын
This actually sounds amazing lol.
@wombatpandaa9774
@wombatpandaa9774 4 жыл бұрын
This character will be amazing in the hands of big brain players, he looks so conplex
@robe.d.7027
@robe.d.7027 4 жыл бұрын
Dabuz though?
@aspoonofgarlic6676
@aspoonofgarlic6676 4 жыл бұрын
Tea?
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Steve had access to his projectiles. Like pacman on steroids
@tri4z_
@tri4z_ 4 жыл бұрын
Pacman player's dream
@kachosuffer7
@kachosuffer7 4 жыл бұрын
pacman players should drop him for steve
@CJSai64
@CJSai64 4 жыл бұрын
[ Phases of New characters in Ultimate ] Phase 1: Presentation announced. Phase 2: Speculation and fanwars reach critical mass Phase 3: Reveal, Crazy Reactions, and Explanation Phase 4: "Wtf they're broken"...aka "analysis" Phase 5: Release Phase 6: Online players who don't pick new character are frustrated to only find said character and the unpreparedness causes saltier losses Phase 7: Tierlists Phase 8: People finally find weaknesses Phase 9: "New character is *in fact* not broken" Phase 10: Gets nerfed in next patch *anyway* xD
@etlttc353
@etlttc353 4 жыл бұрын
The sad cycle
@thewolfman5362
@thewolfman5362 4 жыл бұрын
Phase 11: repeat a few months later
@nanec5717
@nanec5717 4 жыл бұрын
this character is going to be SO DAMN FUN to watch in the hands of a professional
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 4 жыл бұрын
Smash professionals vs Minecraft veterans would be inevitable!
@bananabot2462
@bananabot2462 4 жыл бұрын
David Gumazon mkleo vs captain sparklez let’s make this happen
@cashordeals3672
@cashordeals3672 4 жыл бұрын
The minecraft haters have doubted his power
@autisonm
@autisonm 4 жыл бұрын
And this is without bow/crossbow, netherite, end crystals (super TNT), and enchantments/potions.
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
@@autisonm and enderpearls, and the freaking OP shield, and most importantly... THE WATER BUCKET
@GOTTA_RUN
@GOTTA_RUN 4 жыл бұрын
Unless you talking about this dude name " Low tier god" who called steve corny and trash. I don't think anyone hates minecraft imo
@worldclasschocolatecake4475
@worldclasschocolatecake4475 4 жыл бұрын
@@autisonm End Crystal 2b2t Nice
@autisonm
@autisonm 4 жыл бұрын
@@GOTTA_RUN I think Mk Leo was also malding over this.
@emanueltheodorus1056
@emanueltheodorus1056 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is pretty much Pac-Man 2.0 with the sheer versatility of his moves. I can imagine many big brained players come out on top for utilizing this character to max.
@irok1
@irok1 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@joey5745
@joey5745 4 жыл бұрын
PAC Man and Duck Hunt, seem like those two are the Big Brain Zoners,
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 4 жыл бұрын
Smash players never played Minecraft utilizing this character to max? Difficult for some Smash players - more or less, really easy for those of us who have played Minecraft. If you've watched Dream, Technoblade and Fruiteberries, you will understand the Minecraft techniques is all about outsmarting your opponent. *Smash players and Smash professionals vs Minecraft veterans would be inevitable fight.*
@llamabot9889
@llamabot9889 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Min Min and Steve combo, it's going to be nasty
@Suimega
@Suimega 4 жыл бұрын
It's going to be a camp-out 5 minutes game I can't wait. It's going to be so interesting to watch. So good.
@yeethekiwi4947
@yeethekiwi4947 4 жыл бұрын
My god that sounds schnasty
@Sirmatorz
@Sirmatorz 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait for Steve online doubles...
@stanstanmansan
@stanstanmansan 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god thats gonna be broken in duals
@fidget0227
@fidget0227 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s my prediction: When Steve is winning, he’s going to keep winning. But when he’s at the disadvantage, it’s going to be very difficult to come back. This is due to that he needs to take time to mine and craft, becoming low tier if he can’t find these opportunities. If his opponent can keep pressuring him consistently, it’s going to be a bad matchup.
@2350CST
@2350CST 4 жыл бұрын
He also had no tumble animation, making him easy to combo
@Joshaktheviking
@Joshaktheviking 4 жыл бұрын
His grab will be a good counter to being rushed. Basically like every time you try to charge a isabelle and get thrown away.
@someguy764
@someguy764 4 жыл бұрын
He starts with wooden tools, so he isn't completely defenseless, and unlike the other characters with limited moves, his tools only get damaged when he actually lands a hit. So he only needs to get enough time where he isn't in danger to mine items.
@someguy764
@someguy764 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized steve is going to be a monster in doubles, his partner can give him time to get materials, he has good moves to combo, and he can save his partner with blocks, and stall at the same time.
@2350CST
@2350CST 4 жыл бұрын
Some Guy they can also go for crazy infinites using blocks, like one Steve can repeatedly build blocks above another Steve and their opponent, and all the under Steve has to do is Up-Smash
@donotcare57656
@donotcare57656 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is absurdly good in specific areas. If you're getting juggled, you can just place block or anvil to protect yourself. Then he seems amazing at everything related to the ledge, including recovering since he can place block to regain his jumps and then elytra as well. Place block plus downtilt lets you use the falling fire effect offstage or anywhere in the air, also I wonder if you can place block and grab while in the air. If that works imagine grabbing someone offstage and forward throwing them to an early death since you could use it closer to the blastzone. I think he's for sure going to be a complex character that allows a lot of creativity.
@terrortaste6389
@terrortaste6389 4 жыл бұрын
I had never thought of Steve using blocks to throw people off stage. That's unbelievably toxic. He can practically convert every stage into a walk off. You know, the kind of stage that's banned in every serious tournament.
@ch0staCRL
@ch0staCRL 4 жыл бұрын
that would be smart but i feel like the blocks would break before the throw animation can finish because blocks break faster if you are on top of them. but we did see you can do a down smash so we will see
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
Omg bridging towards blastzone then using tether grab or minecart grab
@donotcare57656
@donotcare57656 4 жыл бұрын
@@ch0staCRL I'm not entirely sure either, though maybe there will be enough time for a grab on an iron block.
@stebopign
@stebopign 4 жыл бұрын
get up b juggled? just place a block underneath then jump away. lol
@mas8705
@mas8705 4 жыл бұрын
It almost seems hysterical to think of Steve being a legit character in competitive play, and yet it does seem like Steve is almost like the "Dan" of the roster. Coming off as a complete joke character and yet someone who could be greatly underestimated when left in the right hands. Either way, I'm looking forward to the Day 1 videos of Steve in action and how people can make Steve work out.
@sushiknight7013
@sushiknight7013 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for the day dan hibiki gets add to smash
@GOTTA_RUN
@GOTTA_RUN 4 жыл бұрын
*of steve of steve*
@supersmugs2821
@supersmugs2821 4 жыл бұрын
Nah online lobbies are just gonna be full of steves who'll just build instead of fighting
@yellowlemonPenguin
@yellowlemonPenguin 4 жыл бұрын
Idk dan feels like he just has inferior tools to work with in general. Steve is legit scary with some of his moves (building can mess up teleports and pk recoveries and he looks like he has an even easier ledge guard than minmin so goodbye dk, mac and tethers.)
@ShadMuffin
@ShadMuffin 4 жыл бұрын
@@yellowlemonPenguin SF4 gave Dan a pretty decent moveset, but other than that game I agree with you
@Azure1013
@Azure1013 4 жыл бұрын
Playing doubles with a Steve would play exactly like Minecraft Bedwars. One player defends while the other playing gathers resources, and then they tap out and the one with the resources powers up to get stronger.
@owenmurphy924
@owenmurphy924 4 жыл бұрын
It's like smash 4 cloud doubles
@Azure1013
@Azure1013 4 жыл бұрын
Owen Murphy Good Lord...
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 4 жыл бұрын
This character is gonna be banned in doubles, I just know it. Having to deal with two Steves is gonna be painful.
@relaxation_and_tax_evasion
@relaxation_and_tax_evasion 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would be more optimal to not have two Steves, like a character like Roy or sonic or something could counter rush down characters pretty well
@jman2050
@jman2050 4 жыл бұрын
Having the Steve player place blocks to enable teammate Mario ladder combos and the like sounds amazingly tilting.
@noice9193
@noice9193 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the doubles combos, Steve builds a platform off map and his teammate comes in (eg villager) and drops the bowling ball off it, or like Steve blocking above the ledge and ganondorf waiting to warlock punch you
@theimpersonator7086
@theimpersonator7086 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest determiners for Steve viability in competive play in my eyes will be: .Limits on Block(Ex: Can you literally block the ledge, normal getup,etc with blocks?) .Hitstun Differences on Weapon Class .Base Stats .Mining Drops on Legal Stages(EX:Imagine if Kalos had a better chance for diamonds, or Lylat for Iron).
@AwesomeDr111
@AwesomeDr111 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like diamonds and gold are consistent on all the surfaces and you mine iron surfaces slower than stone, dirt, or wood. Meaning on stages like lylat, you would get similar amounts of iron like in other stages, but there wouldn't be as much opportunity to get the basic materials for building and tnt.
@howard7318
@howard7318 4 жыл бұрын
Well the jump height is defiantly going to hurt him
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 4 жыл бұрын
Howard I think he can find ways around it with instant double jump and neutral b block place. Future Steve mains could find some good momentum tech I’m sure
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicksalvatore5717 word block wavedashing or canceling an attack by breaking a block underneath
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
@@howard7318 the jump height helps to quickly navigate in the air using blocks. Wouldn't want to jump too high then fast fall every time
@isaacbacon6056
@isaacbacon6056 4 жыл бұрын
I CANNOT wait for two steves to meet each other online and then build a little house together
@ViIvaNunner
@ViIvaNunner 4 жыл бұрын
if steve players are anything like dededes, i could totally see this being a common thing. dededes lay down with eachother, steves build houses
@SamWeltzin
@SamWeltzin 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is the first Rivals of Aether character in Smash, basically. This guy's all about the stage control and resource management. I'm really curious to get my hands on this character even if I don't give a crap about Minecraft.
@maninblack3410
@maninblack3410 4 жыл бұрын
SamWeltzin yeah, I still think as a *character* he’s awful with basically no animations and personality, but from the second I saw his move set I was hyped. He’s going to be insane.
@vitaleriof
@vitaleriof 4 жыл бұрын
@@maninblack3410 i mean, not even minecraft itself has an official backstory for steve
@DLee-jd4yw
@DLee-jd4yw 4 жыл бұрын
I think his personality comes from the gameplay itself. He's the kinda guy who hollows out a mountain as a summer project, uses lava as a weapon, and eats near-subconsciously like an FPS player reloads.
@thecowcowclash
@thecowcowclash 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter how good he is. Steve is literally in smash.
@HopefulBlue
@HopefulBlue 4 жыл бұрын
That's what some people said about Banjo
@thecowcowclash
@thecowcowclash 4 жыл бұрын
HopefulBlue I know. Banjo isn’t good. But I’m attached to mincraft more than banjo and kazooi
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 4 жыл бұрын
TheCowCow Clash I don’t think Banjo is bad. He’s just mediocre. Mid tier, feels like he’s been in smash since melee lol. Great for casual though
@thecowcowclash
@thecowcowclash 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Salvatore I agree. I still have so much fun playing him too, just overall people were disappointed at first.
@andrewlaloo4813
@andrewlaloo4813 4 жыл бұрын
@@thecowcowclash banjo just didn't have much sauce. His coolest thing is probably his infinite recovery and even then it wasn't that cool imo
@seanatkinson8585
@seanatkinson8585 4 жыл бұрын
Steve's ledge trapping game will be absolutely OBSURD. making pichu/belmonts look like Mac trying to get aerial combos
@andrewlaloo4813
@andrewlaloo4813 4 жыл бұрын
how are pichu and belmonts related lmao
@nicoflight3982
@nicoflight3982 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewlaloo4813 Recovery trash
@alexisbaz8746
@alexisbaz8746 4 жыл бұрын
Pikachu deserves that xd
@nicoflight3982
@nicoflight3982 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kiba114 You can Easily block it with Steve
@olliedye5353
@olliedye5353 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicoflight3982 depends if you go underneath the placed blocks to grab the ledge by tilting down then up with up special....in my opinion Pikachu will be a counter pick for Steve. Quicker out of shield, can use T jolts to go over blocks (the only thing that will suffer is his juggle game).
@bandaux
@bandaux 4 жыл бұрын
We’re talking about Steve from Minecraft nairing out of shield. 2020 is wild.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 4 жыл бұрын
"Steve has true combos and can forward smash to dair from 50%"
@cakecakes31
@cakecakes31 4 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to play him in competetive. He will have a lot of potential when he's optimal
@channelisgone4180
@channelisgone4180 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing stopping this character from being completely broken is the fact that he is hard to master. If he was easy to use he would be S+ tier.
@litcrusaderboi12
@litcrusaderboi12 4 жыл бұрын
@@channelisgone4180 mainly about timing to mine and craft trying not to just waist materials
@litcrusaderboi12
@litcrusaderboi12 4 жыл бұрын
@@channelisgone4180 im so excited,im looking up so many reactions
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J 4 жыл бұрын
@@litcrusaderboi12 me too
@LuisMartinez-ut1ie
@LuisMartinez-ut1ie 4 жыл бұрын
How is he going to access to key materials like redstone or diamonds in non-omega/FD legal stages (hazardless animal crossing stages or pokemon stadium)? That is probably what will hold him back from being a solid viable character, unless they add the material ratio mechanic to hazards-off stages.
@LinkMaster5555
@LinkMaster5555 4 жыл бұрын
Rush down may be his achilles heel
@Chrispins
@Chrispins 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't see how Steve could possibly do anything against the yellow rats or Sheik seeing that they would never give him time to do any mining.
@LinkMaster5555
@LinkMaster5555 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chrispins exactly that's why I'm not buying this whole Steve is broken and op crap
@shopekuax2067
@shopekuax2067 4 жыл бұрын
Corey Bloxham I mean, the elytra wings are confirmed to be infinite, so you could just fly to the other side of the arena if someone rushes you and keep repeating until you get a decent amount materials. Also you just need one single good hit to throw them out of the arena and they’re never coming back if you have materials to make a wall on the edge
@LinkMaster5555
@LinkMaster5555 4 жыл бұрын
@@shopekuax2067 we'll see how well that goes
@irok1
@irok1 4 жыл бұрын
@@shopekuax2067 The elytra isn't nearly fast enough. You aren't exactly running away from Melee Bowser
@ambi9940
@ambi9940 4 жыл бұрын
From the moment I saw the trailer, I knew Steve was gonna have amazing combo potential!
@finn4019
@finn4019 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised he didn't get a bow/crossbow or potions.
@Akodakun
@Akodakun 4 жыл бұрын
@Devil may Nero What about potions tho
@MakoShiruba
@MakoShiruba 4 жыл бұрын
I think Steve is based around the very Old Vanilla Minecraft versions, where Enchantments, Potions and the like were less common.
@Akodakun
@Akodakun 4 жыл бұрын
@Devil may Nero yeah I suppose that's fair enough
@sumthinorother9615
@sumthinorother9615 4 жыл бұрын
I half expected that he would play like Phoenix Wright. Gather materials, have a skill set based on what you collect. The lack of a bow felt so impossible...
@angelinadesosa2957
@angelinadesosa2957 4 жыл бұрын
if they would have a bow they would bow spam which is op
@ztvoltron
@ztvoltron 4 жыл бұрын
This was, is a great video I think yes He’ll be good, really good after some time, amazingly fun when accustomed too w/the character!! Thanks Bro & Keep It Up!
@dman2077
@dman2077 4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Joker's grappling hook I guess he really does need Arsene
@cactusman1771
@cactusman1771 4 жыл бұрын
Byleth :( no Arsene for me.
@dman2077
@dman2077 4 жыл бұрын
Joker: That's why I'm higher on the tier list:)
@ScoobySnax.
@ScoobySnax. 4 жыл бұрын
He’s like The Joker from MK11. You need to practice a lot to play him effectively, but if you do, they become one of the best in the game.
@naturallyadapted2096
@naturallyadapted2096 4 жыл бұрын
What will make or break STeve, is his material collection times and his damage. I think we need to wait and see more on his weapon upgrade levels, his mining times and his recoveries. It's way too early to rank him.
@masterofdoom5000
@masterofdoom5000 4 жыл бұрын
Steve reminds me of Pacman with this toolset of abilities that can make such a goddamn storm of big brain plays and stupid tactics.
@monsterl2970
@monsterl2970 4 жыл бұрын
I think a combo you could do with Steve is, looking at the way his nair and uair are, you could possibly do a low percent nair, reverse uair to bair.
@n9more
@n9more 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the first Twitter clip of Steve jab walking someone to the ledge and then fairing them.
@peppy619
@peppy619 4 жыл бұрын
Steve seems to be ok in neutral, but both advantage or disadvantage stages are amazing. With the blocks he can stand wherever he wants and plan how to get back to neutral, and his edge guarding is insane
@AverageHandle_
@AverageHandle_ 4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t think he’s broken I just think that he has some great edgeguarding, ledgetrapping and can be a good anti zoner potentially
@olefshn4464
@olefshn4464 4 жыл бұрын
Ok but he is gonna be extremely broken if he can just set up blocks by the ledge to edge guard
@AverageHandle_
@AverageHandle_ 4 жыл бұрын
Ole FsHn, yeah but as a whole character he isn’t broken and it’s too early to tell
@angelinadesosa2957
@angelinadesosa2957 4 жыл бұрын
@@olefshn4464 ye but he need to get resources which is insanely difficult while your opponent is attacking you
@angelinadesosa2957
@angelinadesosa2957 4 жыл бұрын
@@olefshn4464 ye but he need to get resources which is insanely difficult while your opponent is attacking you
@rookeyji5177
@rookeyji5177 4 жыл бұрын
@@AverageHandle_same thing ppl said with joker lol
@erickalvarez6486
@erickalvarez6486 4 жыл бұрын
Me, as a Lucas main, I just hope that Sakurai doesn't miss the fact that tnt is an explosion and I can heal from it and that I can still grab the edge or at least break blocks until reach the edge.
@fart3615
@fart3615 4 жыл бұрын
Believe me, if you already get through that, steve could do other things like, minecart, place blocks to trap you when you get up at ledge, the possibilities are endless. The only counter to him is really just aggressive characters
@Lakanus
@Lakanus 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is gonna be a Top Tier, possibly new best character, but only on Pro level. As for Quickplay its just gonna depend on rushing him before he can get materials and unlock all the broken moves, just like Hero except Steve actually has a decent neutral.
@shopnil4
@shopnil4 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is gonna be the hardest to learn, but when you do, you got a powerful character on you.
@fart3615
@fart3615 4 жыл бұрын
Tell me how he is hard?
@DLee-jd4yw
@DLee-jd4yw 4 жыл бұрын
He has a lot of moves and options, and you have to manage inventory. It could be difficult to really keep it all in your head in combat.
@fart3615
@fart3615 4 жыл бұрын
@@DLee-jd4yw he’s not hard to learn, you just need to memorize your materials and when you to get some, either way i’m excited for 9pm EST tonight
@Alex-xz2bz
@Alex-xz2bz 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is gonna be a very good counter pick to my brother's campy ness
@gigaphoton376
@gigaphoton376 4 жыл бұрын
Steve incentivises and gives you the tools to be creative, just like Minecraft. I love it!
@Shanx317
@Shanx317 4 жыл бұрын
Really insightful video! I think you did a really good analysis
@RandomishToons
@RandomishToons 4 жыл бұрын
Asmr: man analyzes block
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 4 жыл бұрын
yeah tnt at ledge seems to cover alot of options, It automatically covers get up attack, and timing mix ups with the red stone and pressure plates seems good too for covering jumping and rolling.
@jaredhoeft2832
@jaredhoeft2832 4 жыл бұрын
The block building in particular strikes me as an outrageously powerful and versatile tool. I'm a bit scared to see what people will be able to do with it.
@lukasmihara
@lukasmihara 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking about time-outs. I wonder how good Steve is at that. We saw a border for the blocks at the side and the top, but not lower yet. I wonder if he can hide under the stage if he has enough materials...
@nathan9392
@nathan9392 4 жыл бұрын
Get up attack probably counters tnt but with blocks there are so many mixups that good Steve’s could be insane at the ledge,mind game wise.
@sansundertalefrommegalovania
@sansundertalefrommegalovania 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with both lots of info and lots of things to think about. We'll have to see what happens with materials on legal stages. I agree with you that he will suffer against aggressive characters
@noice9193
@noice9193 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute Steve is going to be able to recover from spikes if he saves a jump and easily recover by building as long as the spike doesn’t kill him, that’s pretty good
@fidget0227
@fidget0227 4 жыл бұрын
Remember there are limits of where you can place blocks depending on how near the edge you are. We’ve only seen the barrier on the top and the sides, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was impossible for Steve to build when way down near the bottom.
@mtsmashgamer0759
@mtsmashgamer0759 4 жыл бұрын
Fidget 02 I doubt he has a limit at the bottom of the stage
@fidget0227
@fidget0227 4 жыл бұрын
MTSmash Gamer07 Any reason you doubt that?
@spikeydemonsd6377
@spikeydemonsd6377 4 жыл бұрын
Steve makes tall wall, lil mac just stands there crying
@joshbenz7070
@joshbenz7070 4 жыл бұрын
I legitimately think that Steve won't have an insanely hard time with rush down compared to other camping characters because he doesn't depend on projectile setups. Even with a wood sword he can still do what he always does (just not as good) with better materials. By just putting them into disadvantage you can use neutral b and get a solid amount of materials because neutral b gathers incredibly fast and has good frame data.
@noosense
@noosense 4 жыл бұрын
It's going to be crazy to see all the crazy setup people come up with I'm already thinking creating a block off stage using down tilt would be my option
@Ryusuta
@Ryusuta 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but one of the things I'm most looking forward to is hearing tournament commentary on matches with this character.
@angrypvz1646
@angrypvz1646 4 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about how funny his get up animation looks 😂
@sonicdudeatdawn2
@sonicdudeatdawn2 4 жыл бұрын
Smooth criminal X3
@lucilfer2635
@lucilfer2635 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot to mention the minecart. you could launch a minecart offstage to catch recoveries that go in a very \ type of direction, or to snipe someone. its basically a throwable bury, and i think it will be effective on characters like lucina, luigi, and shulk.
@quinndepatten4442
@quinndepatten4442 4 жыл бұрын
Placing blocks off stage to walk off and edge guard with smash attacks is going to be crazy. I just can't stop thinking about nutty mine cart set ups. Building a block and then ramming a mine cart into it so it carries them off for a ledge trap. If I'm not mistaken, it can carry TNT, meaning you could place TNT before the set up and launch a mine cart off with it. Fatality mentioned using blocks to extend hit boxes, which could also make for strong ledge traps. I think the cart is going to be criminally underated personally.
@grace4five
@grace4five 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is great. He brought back the long-lost hype the game had a few months ago, is technical yet kind of straight foreword, and he is sooooo funny. Looking at him cracks me up.
@n0lain
@n0lain 4 жыл бұрын
Another key thing about neutral B which Sakurai only briefly mentioned was that getting better materials like gold and diamond is more likely if you mine in the same spot, so while you can move while mining it might not always be optimal.
@333agentx
@333agentx 4 жыл бұрын
M2K: yeah, he'd probably be good in doubles, if you have good cooperation Alpha & Jo: Its free real estate...
@ep1phany616
@ep1phany616 4 жыл бұрын
Damn m2k really lookin like Heisenberg
@Josh.Pointer
@Josh.Pointer 4 жыл бұрын
I’m still sensing he won’t be a top tier character. Mainly because of the characters that just comes at you at full force, won’t have a lot of time to get materials
@Pr0ject_Dusk
@Pr0ject_Dusk 4 жыл бұрын
I think another thing to for everyone to consider playing as or vs Steve is the extensions from craft tables. Could potentially make or break a match.
@sym9266
@sym9266 4 жыл бұрын
M2K did a great job explaining the strengths of this character!
@arempy5836
@arempy5836 4 жыл бұрын
They went full Guilty Gear on Steve. Systems on systems.
@Zwearth
@Zwearth 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever edited this video has been enjoying Genshin Impact quite a bit lol. The background music is a dead giveaway.
@Braillionaire
@Braillionaire 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s going to absolutely depend on how the blocks etc interact with other characters. The only issue I see that could severely limit Steve is the meta of the game. For the most part, this game is fairly defensive. There’s a lot of cheese and usually avoiding the cheese is the best way to play. This means characters who are fairly fast, and have consistent approach options, and good options to get away tend to do the best. Steve seems slow… with such a diverse cast, it’s going to be hard for him to escape from so many characters. Sonic, Fox, Falcon, Pikachu, Palu and the list goes on. I think that’s really going to hurt him, but we don’t really know until we find out more specifically how his moves interact with other characters. I’m hesitant to say he’ll be good, but I think he’ll be very not trash. lol
@chesscankill
@chesscankill 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is talking about how the minecart does more damage the faster it goes (like gyro). Doubles with mario using flood could be pretty deadly/funny.
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 4 жыл бұрын
They're Smash players, not Minecraft veterans.
@chesscankill
@chesscankill 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidgumazon but Sakurai said it himself in the direct that the faster the cart goes, the stronger it is
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 4 жыл бұрын
@@chesscankill yes
@Liggliluff
@Liggliluff 4 жыл бұрын
(15:15) The release will most likely be 2020-10-14 00.00 UTC Which will still be the 13th in USA, but don't expect a midnight release in USA. It'll be very late on the 13th.
@YazawaGrey
@YazawaGrey 4 жыл бұрын
Dear MVG, PLEASE do not have M2K do Soyboi faces for a thumbnail ever again......He and you guys as a whole are so much better than that lol. Nice video though.
@stardarkk
@stardarkk 4 жыл бұрын
LOLL why nott
@lunarohmus
@lunarohmus 4 жыл бұрын
Steve looks so interesting... His advantage state is AMAZING, but his disadvantage... sure, you can use Anvil or Blocks to stall your fall when getting juggled, but if he's completely out of materials... Thing is, even without materials, Steve is a solid ground fighter. D-tilt and D-smash don't need materials, and d-smash probably will put opponents into tech situations or directly at the ledge, buying him time to dig. Same for up-smash, and he could still build the "PK fire wall" (which doesn't need to connect with an enemy to create the flames) then just grab standing opponents at the other side. I'm more interested in TNT as an edgeguard option. That's gonna be the bane for Roy, for example, since his recovery is fire-based. PK Rocket could also be nullified by TNT. And basically every recovery with a hitbox above the character is screwed by this move. Going the extra mile for the disrespect. For Chrom, Ike and Cloud, just place it at the ledge, they will hit it anyways. They will have to buff a ton of recoveries for Steve not to be hella broken, all things considered.
@CenzoVD
@CenzoVD 4 жыл бұрын
Edge guarding with this char is gonna be free af. Dtilt, tnt, block.... gonna be a baby character for babies.
@omegaminoseer4539
@omegaminoseer4539 4 жыл бұрын
We may have missed one of his more advanced Two-Frames/Ledge traps. U-Smash can be a very situational two-frame if the Steve is fast enough. Sakurai has shown that that Steve is, "on the ground," if he uses Block in the air. Hence, he was able to use D-Smash for off-stage attacks. This could mean that you could drop from ledge, Block, and then use Magma. Even if you fall again, you should be able to burn enough Blocks to recover. This forces yet another potential ledge-coverage, since landing on-ledge is impossible. The person would be stuck in the multihit, and you could punish accordingly. D-Tilt may even string, depending on the length of Magma's active frames. This relies on both hitting it early enough and returning to stage. I think that TNT + Pressure Plate would do perfectly for covering landing on platform, as you noted before.
@Dethraxx
@Dethraxx 4 жыл бұрын
This thumbnail lol
@flixet5425
@flixet5425 4 жыл бұрын
the thing with the blocks is you can basically do any move you want in the air.
@c.w35t87
@c.w35t87 4 жыл бұрын
Yo... Recoveries like Pit and Joker with Arsene could be completely stopped by blocks if they try to recover low...
@KirbyPhelpsPK
@KirbyPhelpsPK 4 жыл бұрын
I like how we keep calling him Steve, when it feels like the majority of the footage is showing Alex lol
@Allplussomeminus
@Allplussomeminus 4 жыл бұрын
4:11 wait, no tumble animation on knockback? She was just walking in the air when Mario upSmashed her.
@eduardoserrano1487
@eduardoserrano1487 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason, glad to know that we have similar ideas about how good this character could be. Keep it up man!
@manuelmartinez2870
@manuelmartinez2870 4 жыл бұрын
They really pay attention to detail I didn't notice Steve changes what he uses to mine depending on the material I thought he stickied to the shovel since I didn't pay attention since I didn't look for that
@BryceS9
@BryceS9 4 жыл бұрын
Just praying sakuri wasn’t lying about “the final product being different”
@rytsty4302
@rytsty4302 4 жыл бұрын
so an anti-camper camper
@relaxation_and_tax_evasion
@relaxation_and_tax_evasion 4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for Steve in elite smash
@2Dement3D
@2Dement3D 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine putting down a block on the stage 1 square away from the ledge, as your opponent is grabbing the ledge, and then you stand in that space between the block and the ledge. If you up-smash, magma will appear above Steve and it lasts a long time (and you can spam it). If your opponent ledge jumps, they will jump into the magma. Provided they are tall enough, if your opponent rolls, they will roll straight into the block you placed on stage, stand up, and touch the magma on frame 1, taking damage. Again, if they are tall enough and they use an edge attack, they will probably hit Steve, but once their invulnerability runs out, they will touch the magma and take damage. Steve is short too, so the magma block isn't placed that high up; it will probably hit most characters other than the shortest few. The only thing the opponent could really do to counter this is wait it out on the ledge for the block to disappear, but in those cases, you can easily predict/punish a roll, or drop a down air anvil on them while they're waiting on the ledge. Unless you're a character like ZSS that could hop over the magma itself, it's busted.
@jamonelavivanco5994
@jamonelavivanco5994 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if summoning the crafting table as an obstacle for the opponent to be stuck on a little while could help him out of shield or in the corner.
@gregm8693
@gregm8693 4 жыл бұрын
He may have the same problem as Min Min. Good against campers, but super bad against rush down type characters. And based on my experience with Min Min, I realized that most of the oppenents we fight against in QP are rush down characters...
@argo5625
@argo5625 4 жыл бұрын
Steve is canonically the strongest character now so it just makes sense for him to be S tier imo lol.
@Mufflin
@Mufflin 4 жыл бұрын
In what canon lol?
@argo5625
@argo5625 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mufflin umm Minecraft the video game lol. Have you not seen anything about how much he can carry?
@Mufflin
@Mufflin 4 жыл бұрын
@@argo5625 Yes I have seen game theory but I'm pretty sure Kirby literally obliterates Steve.
@blackcatpirates8134
@blackcatpirates8134 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mufflin Nah dude
@yeetusdefeetus
@yeetusdefeetus 4 жыл бұрын
M have a cake trap that drops him intonlava
@spencer1531
@spencer1531 4 жыл бұрын
Looks extremely expressive, just like MC
@castle9981
@castle9981 4 жыл бұрын
The toxicity of being able to build blocks in the air though. Wow. In the wrong hands, nightmare fuel
@dysondyson9524
@dysondyson9524 4 жыл бұрын
His cheek bones are super strong but they’re also on his forehead
@garrettchandler1948
@garrettchandler1948 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, he is not very good in neutral but is a monster at ledge guarding
@shiranuiprestonsaga8867
@shiranuiprestonsaga8867 4 жыл бұрын
Depending on the launch angle down air may be able to combo into Fair or Bair
@salmo436
@salmo436 4 жыл бұрын
M2K can totally pull off Walter White I NEED TO SEE THAT COSPLAY
@Zekersaurusrex
@Zekersaurusrex 4 жыл бұрын
What if the legal stage list changed slightly because of Steve? Could you imagine getting nothing but iron because you counter picked to lylat? What if BF and FD give Steve OP materials so now only the omega versions can be selected? So many possibilities! 🤯
@pct4to
@pct4to 4 жыл бұрын
You can change the settings to have pre determined materials in a map
@Hayds126
@Hayds126 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure FD and BF will be like omega and BF forms all the same rates
@ManuelPersona24
@ManuelPersona24 4 жыл бұрын
Can you create blocks with Gold or Diamond?
@travisowens8905
@travisowens8905 4 жыл бұрын
I bet the meta will be to make a L shaped obstacle around the ledge so it can't be grabbed, if it fails you possibly could light up some tnt at the L shaped obstacle with d tilt.
@jeremybardett2803
@jeremybardett2803 4 жыл бұрын
I think that he is going to have a lot of combos. I say this because his up tilt/ up air seem really good for juggling opponents and he and he has a good combo throw in dthrow. Even though his grab seems slow i think it will be good because he has everything for a grab. game. kill throws, combos throws and low angle throws.this shows how his advantage will be some of the best in the game. Cart, blocks are cool
@Freshified
@Freshified 4 жыл бұрын
i hate to say it but i lowkey miss z*ros reaction and thoughts on new characters 😔
@julioarcaiko
@julioarcaiko 4 жыл бұрын
I high key miss him. He was and is one of my favorite commentators. I wish we weren’t living in a time with cancel culture.
@sticlavoda5632
@sticlavoda5632 4 жыл бұрын
@@julioarcaiko ....
@metallica3750
@metallica3750 4 жыл бұрын
@@julioarcaiko yeah, so he could get away with abusing a underage right?????
@julioarcaiko
@julioarcaiko 4 жыл бұрын
Metallica nobody asked you. There’s no evidence this was something he was always doing. It was terrible judgement and it is what it is.
@metallica3750
@metallica3750 4 жыл бұрын
@@julioarcaikoman he already confessed bro
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a good or strong out of shield to comain with hero as counterpick to rushdown matchups, but turns out Steve is a farming power up character just like hero. However we should mention the potential importance of teleporting the crafting table to your shield, if will add hitlag to anyone pressuring Steve's shield
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