MVMT: The Documentary (Official 2019)

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Teddy Baldassarre

Teddy Baldassarre

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@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I hope you enjoy this video! I decided to re-upload after getting a lot of feedback about the audio and exposure. We published a release date in advance and thought we would have everything perfectly done in time, but we found things taking longer than expected (since truthfully I have never made a video this in-depth, and didn’t realize how much longer it would take). Instead of pushing back the release date we decided to do everything we could to get it out on the promised day. There were some very late nights leading up the release, and in honesty, a lot of the mentioned feedback we didn’t catch from pure sleeplessness. In retrospect, we should have been more thoughtful and particular on saying when we would have it completed. I’ll make sure I learn from this and we are more careful with promised release dates and the audio/video quality moving forward. If you’re curious - we improved the audio and exposure the best we could but it certainly could have been better. I felt this topic deserved to be bigger than just a skype interview, so we traveled to LA on our own dime. We only had one day with the MVMT team and since we spent most of our budget traveling, I could only bring one person to capture everything (operating two camera angles, capturing audio of two people, etc.) so some of the captured audio and video exposure was off from the start since one person was focusing on so many things. Additionally, we had to rent some of the equipment locally in LA, and our team wasn't very familiar with some of the mics we got since our usual mics weren’t available at the local camera rental store. If you have edited video before, which I’m sure a lot of you have, you know there’s only so much you can “do in post” to improve things. Next time, we’ll do better to have the appropriate crew and equipment. As my channel and business grows we plan on producing more and more premium, in-depth content around the world. This has been a great learning experience, and your support means everything and makes it all possible.
@Zblass
@Zblass 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy Baldassarre dont stress brotha!!! If anything there was almost too much production!!!! That being said you capturing footage of a mvmt designer answering question like a theranos employee afraid of elizabeth holmes is priceless!!! Loved all the watch talk and serious convo, didn’t need the last bit. I mention this not to be an asshole or unworthy critic, but rather am of the belief that the watchfam would rather your focus be strictly talking watches vs gavel closing sequences. Again... seriously... great work.
@watchingwatches6357
@watchingwatches6357 5 жыл бұрын
Sound issues aside, it was still pretty great. Hopefully this recaptures the momentum the original upload had.
@entwouanne
@entwouanne 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks ur the best 🙏
@indigo_died6910
@indigo_died6910 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Teddy! I think the production of this video was pretty good but I don't really like the bias in the video. I felt that zooming into Jake's face was a poor tactic which clearly shows you're trying to guide the video in a certain direction. I don't think that Jake's reasoning was unwarranted. MVMT watches are not quality. But I would say that they are a good looking watch and that there are watch brands out there, that are just like MVMT but more expensive. I do agree that the pricing has been set by MVMT for maximum profitability and marketing but I don't think MVMT's mission was to be the most affordable, best watch movement brand in the first place. MVMT has never really targeted the watch connoisseur market.
@YukalayleeGames
@YukalayleeGames 5 жыл бұрын
Dam don't be so hard on your self this shit was great.
@Bonno95
@Bonno95 5 жыл бұрын
‘We used a consultant, his name was Ali, Ali Baba’
@lmaostrnoob
@lmaostrnoob 4 жыл бұрын
Will 😂😂😂😂
@lebronramsay13
@lebronramsay13 4 жыл бұрын
Will Ikr PLEASE SHARE THIS VIDEO The Making Proces of A Mvmt Watch THE MVMT WATCHES FACTORY: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooS6qWahbKamr9E
@TG22222
@TG22222 4 жыл бұрын
Literally everything you buy on Alibaba goes through an "agent" that's definitely the consultant he's talking about.
@Jethlin2020
@Jethlin2020 3 жыл бұрын
Funny shit...and true.
@watchfan6180
@watchfan6180 3 жыл бұрын
Yes mate. Highly likely.
@BadAssEngineering
@BadAssEngineering 4 жыл бұрын
The Balls on Teddy; to go into a brand HQ, get them to admit they sell Chinese watches and straight up call them out while sitting from their own couch.
@mankind8088
@mankind8088 Жыл бұрын
We all knew the truth before this documentary........the reality is the majority are oblivious and mvmt capitalized on that. Just like the majority don't know that Microsoft uses Unix/Linux for most of their development, cloud and applications. Open source has been here for decades but the MASSES are brainwashed by brands, trends and fads.
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 10 ай бұрын
The MVMT guy is making a killing anyway. He started and runs a successful company. He's got balls too. Probably bigger.
@a.c.5509
@a.c.5509 5 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the brand, it's like it doesn't exist for me. But what I did like about them is the fact they had the courage to speak with you.
@AliasEveWatches
@AliasEveWatches 5 жыл бұрын
Andrei Ciobanu Agree with this 100%!
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 5 жыл бұрын
They acted like shady politicians who own pedo rings..............
@iteilejm
@iteilejm 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo We're talking about watches here.....not anywhere near the same tier. I've never owned a MVMT, but they're doing what most companies do, & that's defend their product. If they get the criticism they do, is because the watch community is very passionate. MVMT is a fashion brand, nothing more & nothing less. We're just sick of the hipsters pointing out how their DW is not out of fashion.
@wolandrew
@wolandrew 5 жыл бұрын
Courage? They fucking paid him for this movie.
@zonejatszik
@zonejatszik 5 жыл бұрын
@@wolandrew that's bullshit man.
@afrothundar
@afrothundar 4 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda funny how now that he’s rich, he can’t actually wear the luxury watches he used to want because now he’s a slave to the shitty watches he made his millions with.
@AsadoMao
@AsadoMao 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, he probably has a few luxury watches too
@BRado
@BRado 3 жыл бұрын
For me that is actually the funniest part about it. Like I’d wanna wear an audemar so bad but ya ur a hypocrite
@lordbogus1985
@lordbogus1985 3 жыл бұрын
in a few years he will sell his shares and then shit all over them and telling the truth
@kevinhalim6069
@kevinhalim6069 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly dude, When you're a Founder of a brand and you're over-protecting the brand and attack to the brand feels like a personal attack to you. You wouldnt want to wear another brand. Not because you cant, some of these people are heads to the ground in caring the brand they built, as if it were themself. On that note tho, he's a multi-millionaire, and he might get caught in luxury stuff, watches, cars, clothes you name it. He probably has a buben zorweg littered with luxury watches, another box full of high-end watches too. Luxury leather pouches for watches, he probably collects luxury pens too.
@THX-C
@THX-C 3 жыл бұрын
George Bush wore a Timex but had a Patek the whole time.
@grilledcheese1318
@grilledcheese1318 4 жыл бұрын
That "Designer" interview was ROUGH. He seemed clueless and terrified. Yikes.
@jazielrodriguez7973
@jazielrodriguez7973 4 жыл бұрын
He kind of admitted that they us alibaba, he said it’s like a restaurant
@lordbogus1985
@lordbogus1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@jazielrodriguez7973 yeah because he is less versed in speech. The first guy could dance a bit with words but the designer was just send over the top
@balesjo
@balesjo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A real designer usually has a strong vision which he/she which they speak about with confidence and enthusiasm. This guy seemed hesitant, projected no confidence, seemed almost evasive. More like you were speaking to some from accounting that was told to discuss the design process.
@lordbogus1985
@lordbogus1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@balesjo an accountant could have done this better
@mesteme
@mesteme 3 жыл бұрын
Clueless is unfair, but he did look uncomfortable, possibly he's an introvert as a baseline and was told that a watch connoisseur youtuber was coming in, I'm not surprised he's not at ease
@rafaelleite1163
@rafaelleite1163 5 жыл бұрын
Wife: Are you cheating on me? Me: No. I just used a consultant....
@lmaostrnoob
@lmaostrnoob 4 жыл бұрын
Rafael Leite 💀💀💀
@lebronramsay13
@lebronramsay13 4 жыл бұрын
Rafael Leite MAKE THIS EXPOSED The Making Proces of A Mvmt Watch THE MVMT WATCHES FACTORY: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooS6qWahbKamr9E
@mohammadrana2745
@mohammadrana2745 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@slowfish29
@slowfish29 3 жыл бұрын
"I used a consultant who helps me buy crap made by concentration camp labour 🤡"
@Nikpredmi
@Nikpredmi 3 жыл бұрын
honestly this dude took it like a champ, he never once got upset or anything. much respect for that.
@rubric_ra
@rubric_ra 2 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with the society today we respect anyone who has confidence regardless whether there's any consistency and integrity in what they represent.
@DinoOnRadio
@DinoOnRadio 2 жыл бұрын
Great job getting rid of that asshole video guy
@DinoOnRadio
@DinoOnRadio 2 жыл бұрын
Mvmnt has the ugliest "styles " and people that think they are stylish are just people who have zero sense of. Style
@yeejay6396
@yeejay6396 2 жыл бұрын
@@DinoOnRadio _mega oof_
@misterfreeze6545
@misterfreeze6545 Жыл бұрын
Jake should have thrown Teddy out of his office. Not sure why he put up with Teddy's rudeness and disrespect. Who is he to question their marketing? Watches exist at all levels and prices and the entire industry is not exactly known for being fairly priced. Value is very subjective. This should not come as a shock especially for a reviewer.
@masonhoza
@masonhoza 5 жыл бұрын
Do I like MVMT watches...heck no! But regardless, this dude took what was likely a $5000 investment and turned it into a $100,000,000+ company. In terms of marketing: mad respect.
@guest9295
@guest9295 5 жыл бұрын
Mason Hoza $200,000 is a lot bigger than 5,000 but still an amazing accomplishment to turn it into a hundred million
@srb__
@srb__ 5 жыл бұрын
@@MiyamotoMusakaki that's some newbie-level bait right there
@cybrscot
@cybrscot 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiyamotoMusakaki OMG, seriously? Are we really going to fall for this "privilege" shit? And...you can't even spell the word. But I guess it's okay because it's how you spell it in "YOUR" culture. LOL
@SuperEmlo
@SuperEmlo 4 жыл бұрын
Mason Hoza we should take respect he is a genius and learn how to make money
@jose76pe
@jose76pe 4 жыл бұрын
@@MiyamotoMusakaki question, since when jews jumped into the white wagon?
@grady60
@grady60 4 жыл бұрын
I gained alot of respect for you Teddy after this video. You sat there next to the man and told him your honest opinion and did not hold back in slating the watches. That takes courage and conviction.
@uncleterry991
@uncleterry991 5 жыл бұрын
This man is a professional question dodger, there must be some sort of Olympic event he can compete in.
@iko5698
@iko5698 5 жыл бұрын
the questions are more like constant accusations trying hard to paint them bad. whod enjoy sitting in an interview like that
@christianmalone1857
@christianmalone1857 5 жыл бұрын
you mean politics?? lol
@TunaStrata
@TunaStrata 4 жыл бұрын
@@iko5698 yes i agree with just. I just 10 minutes in, and teddy already use attacking mode. I want to see this as a level headed conversation. And focus on how they create the mvmt brand.
@VanIsleNuckFan
@VanIsleNuckFan 4 жыл бұрын
"Olympic Committee"
@andrewc1036
@andrewc1036 4 жыл бұрын
Elections
@johnbenton5102
@johnbenton5102 4 жыл бұрын
Let me frame it this way. I think I can say with a fair amount of confidence that most people in the watch community will not only buy strictly on quality of the product, but the emotions and connections we make with a particular brand. How many people buy a Royal oak or nautilus not strictly because of the quality of it, but because of the hands it has touched along the way. You can for sure find better quality for cheaper (maybe not many but i'm sure you can) and that isn't even taking into account the crazy after market people pay. So to have this "value" argument with MVMT I think is fair, but I can also understand a person that is trying to make a watch that isn't entirely about the quality of the product, but instead how it makes you feel. Sure in the example of the Timex Weekend compared to a MVMT watch you could say that it is similarly spec'ed and costs double. However if we did that for every single watch, once you start comparing swiss watches to grand seiko's the value prop gets blown wide open. Is the rolex date just over priced in comparison to Grand Seiko with similar date and high beat. You could certainly make that argument. The only difference I feel is that once you've reached that price range of Rolex vs Grand seiko there are more redeeming qualities that you could say well "I bought it for reason X". Where are the lower at here the only reason really results in "It looked nicer" or "It's cooler" (in part thanks to marketing). However I think those are perfectly fine reasons to buy a watch. In short, is the MVMT watch a good value per specification that it offers...No absolutely not. Is a MVMT watch a great watch to get if you can really connect with the story that MVMT is telling... Yes absolutely. These antiquated devices we wear on are wrists are so obsolete it really circles back to kinda being funny again. It really is all about the stories we tell ourselves. Like why is a re-release of the 321 movement from omega a big deal. In fact as far as moving the needle forward in watch making, there is an argument to be made that moves us backwards in creating demand for nostalgia instead of improvements; But it is all about the stories we tell, the memories we make, and the things we appreciate. There really is no wrong watch to pick if you love it.
@paulesthete4648
@paulesthete4648 3 жыл бұрын
But isn't the story MVMT is telling of the same quality as their watches ? Like basically a large scale scam involving blatantly lying on both design & quality How could anyone connect with that ?
@Jay-ws7tv
@Jay-ws7tv 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. If they didn’t comment on their quality as much as telling a brand story and emotional connection w the watches it may be different
@vidsantoro
@vidsantoro 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT 2 жыл бұрын
Deffinitly rather put my money on Orient, Seiko, Timex, Casio, Citizen, and Bulova, lots of nice watches for reasonable prices that will last and have more functionality to back up their appearance
@adamsmiths3016
@adamsmiths3016 27 күн бұрын
My problem is the scam side of the business. No mvmt should be burned to ground.
@usmanfarooq96
@usmanfarooq96 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy Bulbasaur has been hitting the gym and getting thicc. Introducing Teddy Ivysaur.
@NormanKim
@NormanKim 5 жыл бұрын
Listen here boy, 😂😂 gold
@herald1953
@herald1953 5 жыл бұрын
dude even recomment this lmao
@ulyssesjimenez87
@ulyssesjimenez87 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reposting this comment lmao
@masivatak
@masivatak 5 жыл бұрын
Archie calls him Baldistar
@cordero6960
@cordero6960 5 жыл бұрын
sooner or later you gone give that man venusaurite
@zyndustry
@zyndustry 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I’m a noob in the watch world but Teddy hit it spot on. First watch I purchased was a MVMT and that got my foot in the door. Since then I’ve purchased 2 Citizen watches and am now looking to buy a Seiko 5. I honestly would not have gotten into the watch game if it wasn’t for the gateway watch
@usmanfarooq96
@usmanfarooq96 5 жыл бұрын
*Alpha M has left the chat.*
@HW.0029
@HW.0029 4 жыл бұрын
Real men real style too. I like both their vids but those watch plugs just destroy the class they had.
@evannussbaum1863
@evannussbaum1863 4 жыл бұрын
Alpha M is a joke, not mvmt watches. He starts all his videos with “HEY, SO YOUR AN ATTRACTIVE GUY AND YA WANT A SEÑORITA”. So annoying.
@Shocker99
@Shocker99 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of why i stopped watching his videos a few years ago. Each video is a bullshit advert. Didn't his facial cream brand liquidate? Or was he just the promo guy and they let him go?
@SerpentsAndSnakes
@SerpentsAndSnakes 3 жыл бұрын
that "designer" was trying so hard to not say middleman while explaining lmao
@Jiggyjames_fixes_things
@Jiggyjames_fixes_things 5 жыл бұрын
Never trust a designer who wears a flannel shirt with a wolf on it
@joshcgriff
@joshcgriff 5 жыл бұрын
james lanier amen
@nova3530onyt
@nova3530onyt 4 жыл бұрын
He has too little process work. Fishy... 🧐
@redneckster6639
@redneckster6639 3 жыл бұрын
did you just assume THEIR incompetence?
@NicholasBaronMorgan
@NicholasBaronMorgan 3 жыл бұрын
That's guy when he was like ermm ermm trying to think about any features to talk about... Hint there aren't any lol
@afrothundar
@afrothundar 4 жыл бұрын
The guy who created movement looks exactly like the type of dude that would think a mvmt watch was badass 🤣🤣🤣
@nigga_nigga
@nigga_nigga 9 ай бұрын
fr my nigga
@TheAnthonyLJ
@TheAnthonyLJ 6 ай бұрын
Correct
@maybach6536
@maybach6536 5 жыл бұрын
But I would rather have a Seiko 5 than a MVMT watch...
@SS-pv6jh
@SS-pv6jh 5 жыл бұрын
That's such an easy decision to make, Seiko 5s are cheaper than MVMT retail anyways! MVMT is so rage inducing
@xon3E
@xon3E 5 жыл бұрын
@@SS-pv6jh for $50-80 you can get a SNK809, an automatic piece!
@emilpashov1040
@emilpashov1040 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Pettersen Everyone with a clue would pick the Seiko Price Quality Reliability Looks Functionality I could go on for hours
@endi3386
@endi3386 4 жыл бұрын
Eric P Sorry what was that at the end where he was sentenced to wear a seiko 5? They are great watches...
@genesisx6521
@genesisx6521 4 жыл бұрын
My Seiko 5 is one of the Japanese made ones. I absolutely love it
@spacepope6373
@spacepope6373 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy looks so pissed this entire interview lol
@frankandy1376
@frankandy1376 5 жыл бұрын
Whole vibe felt like an interview with a North Korean official 😂
@nigga_nigga
@nigga_nigga 9 ай бұрын
trump v kim
@Mario_N64
@Mario_N64 3 жыл бұрын
I actually would like to meet the talented Chinese guys who really design these watches. They should be in a documentary too.
@michaelcondon8261
@michaelcondon8261 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Teddy, First off, great documentary. Speaking from experience here - a few years ago, I purchased a MVMT as a graduation present for myself once I graduated university. I loved it for a year or so - it seemed to be good value (to someone who really knew nothing about watches). But it did exactly that. It made me start to research watches. It made me find channels like yours and many others and encouraged me to learn about watches and horology and what value in a watch means. My MVMT has since stopped working, and I have purchased a 1967 Omega Seamaster Chronometer that I LOVE. My point is, for better or worse, MVMT was a stepping stone for me into a hobby/interest that I likely otherwise wouldn't have found/couldn't afford to get into at that time in my life.
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT 2 жыл бұрын
I can blame the "screen death" of my "Samsung Galaxy Watch Active" for my sudden tangent into starting to collect watches, got a cheap "Boderry Urban" skeletal watch, a nato strap to go with it, and I've really enjoyed wearing it. I've got Orient Commuter on the way now and have my eyes on ordering a Orient "Mini Triton" dive watch, as well as a Gshock that I plan to do just a silly amount of mods to just for fun. Got a Garmin Instinct Solar to replace the fitness tracking the Samsung used to because it's built like a tank and doesn't do the flashy extra junk (and a ligit 12 day battery life so no daily charging), and it's such a utilitarian simple thing with a rubber case on it that I have no shame wearing a second watch on the opposite wrist, something cool on the left, something practical on the right, it's fun
@ZongTaVEVO
@ZongTaVEVO 2 жыл бұрын
Nice story. I too got into watches. Buying a mvmt doesn’t make you a moron. Thanking mvmt does. It’s like Israel thanking Hitler. Cmon just own up to getting played. Mvmt didn’t get you into watches…your interest in watches got you into watches.
@rwyo83
@rwyo83 Жыл бұрын
MVMT watches are not for watch collectors, are for compliments. Women loves slim minimalist watches on men, when it comes to fashion China is at the top.
@charlieehlers5023
@charlieehlers5023 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very important documentary for young designers and entrepreneurs alike. Many takeaways to be had from this video, both positive and negative. An excellent lesson on decision making and product / brand perception.
@JamesMH
@JamesMH 5 жыл бұрын
31:55 that restaurant analogy sure sounds a lot like a middle man to me
@sk6129
@sk6129 5 жыл бұрын
He almost said it, but seems like the whole company's been trained not to say 'middle man'.
@quazamuhaha
@quazamuhaha 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he didn't pull that off that well. If I had to guess, I think what he was going for was the effect of, they're the chef that comes up with the dishes, and the manufacturer is the rest of the restaurant that sources the ingredients and puts it together. Still not an amazing analogy.
@ajax5197
@ajax5197 5 жыл бұрын
A middleman selling to the company itself
@Mgunner7623
@Mgunner7623 5 жыл бұрын
You guys have lost your minds with this "middle man" thing. Bring a steak with you to a nice restaurant and tell them you want it medium-rare, but only want to pay for the cooking. Maybe Ford will start selling cars directly to you tomorrow. Lol.
@kaspermj
@kaspermj 5 жыл бұрын
That is actually only the procedure for producing prototypes. Not how actual production is done.
@AndrewSun15
@AndrewSun15 4 жыл бұрын
He literally sounds like a dude who sounds guilty
@Ceb773
@Ceb773 5 жыл бұрын
Headphone users be wary at 34:05, turn the volume down, almost spat green tea all over my monitor
@paracore4313
@paracore4313 5 жыл бұрын
Omg I almost jumped through the ceiling
@Pentti_Hilkuri
@Pentti_Hilkuri 5 жыл бұрын
Loudness equalization is a helluva enhancement.
@VictorDude98
@VictorDude98 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus I fucking shat myself
@Ohmie
@Ohmie 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus I turned it down in preparation for this and it still fucking got me
@str8m880
@str8m880 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Morse vibe check
@smoothacceleration437
@smoothacceleration437 4 жыл бұрын
Respect to MVMT for agreeing to the interview. And didn't know Teddy had the b**ls to call him out to his face. Wow. But... when i saw the guy got $100m i stopped feeling sorry for him immediately ahah
@hyssean12
@hyssean12 4 жыл бұрын
He gave his opinion.
@NormanKim
@NormanKim 5 жыл бұрын
The Teddy Bulbasaur > Teddy Ivysaur comment needs to come back though
@usmanfarooq96
@usmanfarooq96 5 жыл бұрын
NormanKim say no more
@alexanderv.8961
@alexanderv.8961 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy Balthastar
@victort.2583
@victort.2583 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, respect to MVMT here. They agreed to the interview and did their best to keep cool under pressure. I think the questions were rather loaded and one-sided, and they were sporting even though the questions weren't exactly fairplay. I'm not a fan of overpriced fashion watches, but to their credit, they hung in there.
@mrand3r50n3
@mrand3r50n3 5 жыл бұрын
Not the first business to sell overpriced crap to dumb consumers solely through clever marketing and definetely not the last, especially in the fashion industry.
@riocc
@riocc 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, since 2009 Apple is doing almost the same bullshit xD (in the tech space: Apple = MVMT)
@johndong7524
@johndong7524 5 жыл бұрын
I just don't get why all of this hate is concentrated on MVMT. There are hundreds of fashion watch brands that operate in the same way. Why no one is giving shit to Kenneth Cole, Skagen, Invicta, or Fossil? They were selling overpriced fashion junk way longer, before MVMT even existed. These guys just want to make money and people who buy their product are happy with the looks and the price of the watch. They are not watch geeks. They don't care about company's history, innovation, and heritage. They have a stylish watch that keeps good time for a little over hundred bucks and that is good enough for them. And if something happens to the watch it's not a big deal. They're easily replacable. It's only a hundred bucks!
@riocc
@riocc 5 жыл бұрын
@@johndong7524 very true. I think it's because MVMT started a trend of "agressive" marketing toward the common buyer and especially for blatantly lying within that campain
@johndong7524
@johndong7524 5 жыл бұрын
@@riocc I never even heard of this brand until recently and I've never seen any of their products in stores before, so I'm not sure what aggressive campaign you're talking about. The most known fashion watch brands in my neck of the woods are Kenneth Cole, Skagen, and Fossil, but no one is going after them.
@manoman0
@manoman0 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Wellington, anyone?
@princelyh.glorious4946
@princelyh.glorious4946 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of respect for Teddy for asking questions with unfaltering conviction. Respect for the MVMT guy as well for taking the questions like a champ, being more transparent than I'd expect makes business sense for him, and - for seizing an opportunity all the watch brands we love could have seized but likely felt was beneath them. The overwhelming majority of people looking to buy a watch just want something that looks good, works, and is at a price point they can afford. These guys realize that more than most and have built a business worth hundreds of millions of dollars BECAUSE they've put that insight to work. I'd buy a Casio or an Orient or a Seiko before I bought these guys' stuff, mostly cause these others DON'T position themselves to be something they're not. But I understand that many people find the MVMT watches better LOOKING than those others - and that's what most people care about most.
@aizuddinfahmi9255
@aizuddinfahmi9255 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my... Teddy finally said the F word in this channel... O_O
@Justacasualstranger
@Justacasualstranger 5 жыл бұрын
when?
@aizuddinfahmi9255
@aizuddinfahmi9255 5 жыл бұрын
@@Justacasualstranger 39:41
@jackholmes9437
@jackholmes9437 2 жыл бұрын
I got into watches around middle school and started by wearing $8 Walmart watches. After a few years of this my mom got me a MVMT watch for Christmas. It was a big step up for me at the time. I thought it was great and compared to what i had been wearing it fealt like I was wearing a true luxury watch. Slowly I got more into watches and started buying more quality brands Iike Tissot and Bulova. While my MVMT watches fealt cheap and kind of shit after getting more quality watches, I have to give them credit. They make trendy looking watches at a decent price and I think they help guide people into more serious watch collecting
@jameeyg87
@jameeyg87 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing against mvmt and respect for doing this but these guys wasted your time and came across as skeezy. I have no problem with them selling watches at a markup if that’s what the market is willing to pay. They should’ve defended their company based on economics or what value they bring to the market but instead they tried to dodge every question.
@Heymeit
@Heymeit 5 жыл бұрын
Truthfears Guilty then the competition is Ali baba one of the worlds largest marketplaces...
@storm3016
@storm3016 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on imo. They basically wasted Teddy's time as well as the viewers time by doing this imo. Luckily time is all I got, lol
@storm3016
@storm3016 5 жыл бұрын
@Truthfears Guilty Yeah, that's true, and great effort on Teddy's part, respect for that.
@thestuffmikedoes2309
@thestuffmikedoes2309 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it was a waste of time. We as the audience were entertained, and informed about what kind of company MVMT is and Teddy asked some great questions. He’s proven himself to be a brilliant interviewer.
@Tdr-jv2nc
@Tdr-jv2nc 3 жыл бұрын
Have a lot more respect for MVMT after seeing that they are willing to talk. I wouldn’t get one myself but nice to see they don’t shy away from the questions
@DeeKay1911
@DeeKay1911 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that “design guy” is just clueless as what to say... Asked what his favourite vintage watch was, he almost looked like he couldn’t even mention one
@DeeKay1911
@DeeKay1911 5 жыл бұрын
32:45 😂😂😂 “Ehhhmmmm trying to think of a key feature” It’s brand spanking new man! And you “designed” it !!
@internettroll7497
@internettroll7497 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeeKay1911 it just shows the time. No key feature not even seconds. A nautilus copy. But personally if that was 90$ instead of the $300 pricetag i would probably buy that
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 5 жыл бұрын
That's why they are so successful. They didn't hire traditional watch folk. They hired hip millennial designers where reading time comes last. It's literally like modern art. It paid off financially but it took a heavy beating by people who actually care about watches.
@internettroll7497
@internettroll7497 5 жыл бұрын
@@annekedebruyn7797 lol i like the analogy. "Modern art" true statement.
@RafaelCosta-oi3be
@RafaelCosta-oi3be 5 жыл бұрын
He honestly sounded like he was missing a few brain cells, his thoughts must be in permanent slow motion.
@vladimirlopez7840
@vladimirlopez7840 3 жыл бұрын
I admire Teddy for having a set and telling him what he really thinks of those watches.
@jamesfuller7903
@jamesfuller7903 5 жыл бұрын
You gave us a look behind the curtain and we saw exactly what we thought we’d see.
@inputgoldfish4424
@inputgoldfish4424 4 жыл бұрын
What we saw was people buying them form alibaba
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 3 жыл бұрын
Turds
@Karsonbarnes11
@Karsonbarnes11 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly respect him a lot for not only agreeing to do the interview, but continuing to do it and take those uppercuts at every turn. P.S. nice Nomos. 👌🏻
@vitvel
@vitvel 5 жыл бұрын
She's right you know. This has been blown out of proportion. I'm a watch enthusiast but why are we giving MVMT so much attention anyway? I don't get it. The old man is right, we all have to start somewhere even if it means buying our first watch like MVMT. Hell, I owned a Fossil and did not regret it at all. What we don't realize maybe is that MVMT has a very different market segment and I don't think we belong to that segment. Not everyone cares about "value for money" or the movement whether it's Miyota or ETA. A lot of people care about looks and just telling time. That's it. It is what it is. My friends and family don't care about watches if it's a Seiko or Tissot. Nobody really does that's why I don't bother educating them. I tried a couple of times but they said, "WE DO NOT CARE." Again, this has been blown out of proportion. For me, I don't care and I don't mind that MVMT exists.
@Brainman_2331
@Brainman_2331 5 жыл бұрын
My first actual watch (apart from these 20mm SpongeBob watches that I used to have when I was like 5) was a fossil and it got me further into watches. When I bought it, I didn't know a lot about watches and went to the store knowing already I would buy a watch because I really needed and wanted one. I tried a few watches and bought a pretty basic watch for 130€. I like the original design and didn't know any better and I'm fine with the quality. I'll buy my second watch soon, it will be a Seiko srpa25k1 and I can't wait to order it.
@BuddhaRice
@BuddhaRice 5 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@dibidabua
@dibidabua 5 жыл бұрын
True. I actually think fashion watches are a good choice as long as the desings are original.
@TECHFIGHTER
@TECHFIGHTER 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment about MVMT watches I've read. Agreed 💯
@Yekie
@Yekie 5 жыл бұрын
My first watch was a MVMT. I got it because I knew nothing about watches, needed one for work, and saw all the advertising so I thought what the heck. It led me down a rabbit hole of research and opened the watch door for me. I don't regret the purchase at all.
@badassmanale
@badassmanale 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a headphone enthusiast. Before Beats, $400 headphones were unthinkable to almost everyone. Sennheiser, Audiotechnica, Shure, Beyerdynamic etc. were established but niche brands catering to audiophiles or studios. Beats came out and were reviled, but then the aforementioned brands started coming out with their own fashion oriented headphones to compete. This was a gateway drug for many people including myself. In highschool I wanted either Beats or Bose. Then I started researching and bought some Senns instead. Now I am able to say I have heard almost everything, from the cheapest no-brand earbuds up to Focal Utopias and even the Orpheus and I've never owned Beats. If Beats weren't around I don't know if I would have considered even entering this hobby. Tyll Herstens, the Godfather of headphones has a similar opinion: Beats were a necessary evil that revitalized the whole headphone industry and turned it into the thriving behemoth it is today. I think MVMT, Daniel Wellington, etc. are the same thing for the watch industry. (Non Smart)Watches are normally viewed as a) cheap bracelets or b) extremely expensive bracelets. These guys are in between. Yes, many people will buy one of their products and stick to it. But others will buy it then look for a sidegrade or an upgrade... and boy, are they in for a treat when they find out what they've been missing.
@Smoothtlknwhtboi
@Smoothtlknwhtboi 5 жыл бұрын
I was wanting a wrist watch check to see if the people at MVMT were even wearing their own watches. Great video I enjoyed.
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 3 жыл бұрын
They wear apple watches
@bussymithy
@bussymithy 4 жыл бұрын
Man Teddy is no Joke! Not a single flinch, stutter. Straight forward questions. And dam good facts to back those questions. No escape at all... But respect for MVMT for saying YES to this. I have no hate for MVMT. Because of them I fell in love with watches and started to build a passion for it. Which lead me to appreciate the real watches and the craftsmanship behind it. 2 years after buying a MVMT, I was looking at Seikos, Orients, Tissot (affordable good automatics). For this I thank you MVMT. For me, they were the voice.
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 5 жыл бұрын
Consider their marketing, to me, doesn’t bring MVMT into question, but I question the people whose integrity is so cheaply for sale. I don’t blame MVMT for marketing themselves, but blame “influencers” or supposed “honest” reviewers for selling out their customers.
@AmosBurton2351
@AmosBurton2351 5 жыл бұрын
Influencers create nothing other than a portal and an opinion that is for sale. Don’t expect any of them to be worth listening to.
@Z-Man1973
@Z-Man1973 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy, thank you for a well filmed documentary about MVMT. To be 100% honest, I almost fell for their marketing hype and purchased one. There are some of their styles that I like, and at the time I didn't know enough about horology to understand what a watch at their price point represented. At the end of the day, value for money is very subjective. As is evidenced by MVMT's customer base, plenty of people believe they're getting value for their money. That means a watch that works, looks good, and is considerably less expensive than an Apple watch (which I would guess is a large target market for MVMT). MVMT's target market is not the seasoned watch collector. I do agree that someone who buys a MVMT watch could evolve into that seasoned watch collector, however, I don't believe that is MVMT's intent. They just want to sell watches. It would be interesting to know how many customers are repeat customers. Also, knowing we live in a capitalistic, free market society, nobody is holding a gun to the heads of consumers and forcing them to buy MVMT watches. Good marketing is clearly used to sell their product, and they're very successful in their marketing strategies. What MVMT is offering to potential customers isn't too much different than what ultra-low cost airlines offer versus the top level airlines. For that matter, it's not too different from what Korean car companies offer versus BMW, Merc, Porsche, Jag, etc. Marketing is all about drawing consumers to your brand. Perhaps the question to be asked is, "are they deceiving their customers in any way?", or "are they running a shady operation that puts out an unreliable product?" I think if I spend $100-$200 on a quartz-based watch, I'd expect it to last until the battery dies. If MVMT watches don't last as long as the battery does, then they're running a shady operation, IMHO. I think that's a part of the documentary that is missing; how reliable are their watches? How long should a customer expect their watch to last? That's where value for money goes from being subjective to being objective. Also, many in the millennial generation don't necessarily buy products to keep long-term. Almost all products are simply discarded when they fail, and a replacement is purchased. I'm sure if you asked a MVMT customer what they'll do if their watch fails, they'll say they'll just buy another one. As always, great content, and I look forward to more of your videos.
@atothek302
@atothek302 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Alpha M has ZERO integrity, ZERO credibility.
@jonsmustache7704
@jonsmustache7704 5 жыл бұрын
Shazbot Was there ever any doubt?
@martin6901
@martin6901 4 жыл бұрын
I still think it's respectable he sat down for the interview at all.
@daveaddams5576
@daveaddams5576 4 жыл бұрын
Shazbot he just used a consultant
@RyGuyTheAVGuy
@RyGuyTheAVGuy 4 жыл бұрын
please elaborate?
@estevanangel9990
@estevanangel9990 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime he says “I’m a watch slut” lol so embarrassing
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 4 жыл бұрын
"Did you hire that hitman?" "No. I just used a consultant"
@redredred1
@redredred1 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping at some point he's show two watches side by side, the unbranded Alibaba watch and the MVMT watch and just ask... "Which came first? Because it sounds like you're accusing the Alibaba producers of ripping off your designs."
@tmf866
@tmf866 4 жыл бұрын
I'd take a MVMT watch and the alibaba-alike, pull the backs off, and ask him to explain the similarities. Then ask him to show me a design that hasn't gone into production yet, let me see if I can find it on alibaba (so I could know it's not a design that's presently for sale), then show it to me when it's in production, so I could know they actually designed their watches. (I'd of course agree not to show the design for a few months so he could get it into production.)
@hrhKR
@hrhKR 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@tmf866Little late to the party but you wouldn’t find anything that way. They have grown so big that the are able to propose their own design to Chinese factories and have it made for dollar and fifty per unit. They probably do design themselves but it doesn’t change the quality of the product.
@waxy954
@waxy954 2 жыл бұрын
I have just come across this video and it is one of the greatest videos I have ever watched on KZbin. Fair play to Jake for agreeing to do the interview
@69Suluk
@69Suluk 5 жыл бұрын
There you go! From the cheeseburger analogy, clearly MVMNT buys their watches from Chinese assembly plants who do all the sourcing of existing watch parts from different Chinese manufacturers!
@tmf866
@tmf866 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I don't have a problem with that. If I was doing a watch startup I'd probably be doing the same thing. I have a cousin who was the guy who went to China to source parts for a well known consumer product you may have owned, which you'd probably say good things about. What I have a problem with is being dishonest about it and using "social influencers" to push it as something amazing. There are plenty of small brands out there that don't pretend to be something they're not, and I have a lot more respect for them, and would probably pay more for them.
@ultime321
@ultime321 3 жыл бұрын
In other words, middle man. He was about to say that and stopped himself lol
@jaredneilsen
@jaredneilsen 2 жыл бұрын
This was great. I’d never buy their watches but now I get it, they are just doing fast fashion watches which suits the $100 price point. Seems like the industry is butt hurt that non-watch guys built $100m company while they missed the boat. Fair play. Selling watches to non-watch people could actually be a gateway for many gen-z people.
@artsohc
@artsohc 5 жыл бұрын
I will say I agree that these watch companies should exist. I don’t like their products and I’m not a fan of any company that makes a cheap thing look expensive; but when I see things like MVMT I think of my dad. Growing up, my dad always bought Fossil watches. They were junk, but my dad loved wearing a watch and he didn’t want to spend reasonable money on a good watch. But it fed his desire to wear a watch. When I entered my 20s and graduated college, he was desperate to get me to wear a watch. He felt that a real professional wore a watch. He would buy me Fossil after Fossil, each one getting regretted. And then he’d wear it rather than return it. When I was making enough to buy a nicer watch, I decided instead to introduce my dad to a nicer watch first. I bought him a Citizen Air Diver Titanium from a Japanese market place. When I gave him the watch it looked like he was having a seizure. The next day he threw away every Fossil watch he owned. But his eyes were open. About a year later he bought his first Rolex Submariner...which is resting on my wrist now. Then he bought 3 more Rolex’s. MVMT is that gateway drug for some people. People who may otherwise have never worn a watch. And when some of those people have the money, they might buy a nicer watch. And through that, the watch industry will grow and good watch companies will have a larger market to sell to and they will do better as companies. And I’m cool with that.
@asherdash12
@asherdash12 5 жыл бұрын
Great story. I'm not going to lie, it made my eyes water 😭
@benjamingibson5442
@benjamingibson5442 5 жыл бұрын
Spot on man. This is entry level. It isn’t meant to be viewed in the manner teddy wants to. I was extremely put off by this video
@charlieehlers5023
@charlieehlers5023 4 жыл бұрын
This is such a great story!
@jonabitstream
@jonabitstream 4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Gibson Teddy’s point is that yes, these are entry level watches, but they’re not priced as such. They’re too expensive to truly be entry level. People are paying too much for them. They’re using marketing to convince consumers that the watches are cool, and to not notice how poorly made they are for the price. Timex, Seiko, Citizen, and others at lower price points are better made, will last longer, and look just as good.
@franqueee
@franqueee 4 жыл бұрын
Great story but it really depends. Your dad is only lucky enough you introduced him to a proper watch manufacturer Seiko is a gateway brand. Casio is a gateway brand. Timex is a gateway brand. Fossil, maybe. But MVMT? These people doesnt give one shit about watches and heritage. People who pulled the trigger on MVMT, more often then none, werent opened to the watch world later on. What we want is for people to go to and support reputable and respectable watch companies like seiko or casio (which btw sell way cheaper watches if u wanna talk about reasonable priced watches) for their first watches and not simply give money to these scammers who exploits people's stupidity
@ninja-cards1438
@ninja-cards1438 2 жыл бұрын
Mvmt was my first watch I owned and it got me into watches. I now own brands like citizens Bulova and Tag heuer and its all thanks to mvmt. Got to star somewhere.
@tadolson1787
@tadolson1787 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Teddy! I was happy to see someone that is respected in the watch community (you) ask MVMT the questions we all had and you didn’t hold back, either. I think that MVMT had the opportunity to show the watch world what makes them different and justifies their price/cost to consumers and “quality” of their watches and they failed to do so. In avoiding and not answering so many questions, I think that they confirmed what most of us already thought. I applaud you on sticking to your standards while giving them a chance to change your opinion of them. Keep up the good work!!
@mjtsirhc
@mjtsirhc 3 жыл бұрын
Okay I used to absolutely hate MVMT (and I suppose I still do for the most part), but the fact that they were willing to sit down and have this interview is somewhat respectable.
@jnasty6669
@jnasty6669 5 жыл бұрын
This company was started for non watch people who couldn’t care less about the internals or quality and just needed a cheap watch to match an outfit or whatever. I don’t think it’s a bad idea.
@IanTheEarlobe
@IanTheEarlobe 5 жыл бұрын
_ jake124 problem is the price is still fairly high.
@quinnperessotti1796
@quinnperessotti1796 5 жыл бұрын
Even for people who only want a watch as a fashion accessory, theres plenty of higher quality watches at a lower price point
@alfredkaizirege
@alfredkaizirege 5 жыл бұрын
@@IanTheEarlobe for who?
@retrogamer6750
@retrogamer6750 5 жыл бұрын
@@alfredkaizirege 130 bucks is expensive for most
@alfredkaizirege
@alfredkaizirege 5 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamer6750 if you can't afford it then why buy?
@GJames007
@GJames007 4 жыл бұрын
I am very surprised that MVMT did this actually. Reason being is they knew Teddy had already made his mind up before even sitting down. They knew they were going to get difficult questions and that it was nearly impossible to change his mind.
@A-Wall
@A-Wall 5 жыл бұрын
Never trust a man with such high levels of vocal fry.
@RealG1zm0
@RealG1zm0 4 жыл бұрын
It's called opiate/opiod addiction.
@sinjon
@sinjon 3 жыл бұрын
God yes. It’s annoying af
@jonathanblackberry9512
@jonathanblackberry9512 4 жыл бұрын
you have more integrity and journalistic talent than almost all of news media. Much Respect.
@hunterphan5506
@hunterphan5506 5 жыл бұрын
After this video, I am even more convinced that MVMT just gets their watches from the cheapest source and slap their logo on it.
@jerrylim1121
@jerrylim1121 4 жыл бұрын
I mean this man might be cheating other's from their hard earned money but I gotta say he saw an opportunity to make money and the did it well.
@DebmalyaSinha
@DebmalyaSinha 5 жыл бұрын
what a mature interview, Teddy. I’ve never met you but I’m proud of you man!
@koasangelosukarto4018
@koasangelosukarto4018 4 жыл бұрын
We should all be like the old man which Teddy interviewed. Instead of chastising people who bought those questionable watch brands and those watch brands themselves, we should be grateful. That optimistic outlook that the old man has is truly amazing.
@flaviofelix99
@flaviofelix99 5 жыл бұрын
Great work! You managed to respectfully talk about all the things that people dislike about mvmt. I'm sure it want easy to hold the anger for the crappy answers hahaha you're awesome!!!!
@Iyamcole
@Iyamcole Жыл бұрын
Man, I am so appreciative of you having this conversation. Maybe some of the best insight into the people that run these fashion brands. He's a decent enough guy, but I really think he's trying to hide the fact that they really don't know much about quality control.
@KongBobbyK
@KongBobbyK 5 жыл бұрын
If you have not got the point yet ILL inlighten you MVMT is All about the money...MVMT is not about watches. And they doing pretty well.
@Antoto96
@Antoto96 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Beaver’s comment about these other watch brands/products like the Apple Watch, DW, MVMT. People my age were not interested in watches. Growing up as a kid in the 2000s I did not see a lot of people wear watches. The only people I saw wear watches were businessmen or people who held high postions in a company. Even in University from 2014-2019 I did not see many people wear watches, not even the rich international kids who could easily buy a rolex. The Apple watch was a godsend for my generation who now are starting to see a purpose for watches again. Even if they didn’t buy it, they now have the idea of wearing a watch in their head. We grew up in the digital age with cell phones and computers available to the masses. In the pass the watch was a tool that would tell you the time, now it’s was considered mere jewelry. My first watch was a cheap Timex that cost me $35 and a Casio F-91W which cost me $8. I had friends who bought a Daniel Wellington and eventually moved on to other more respected brands as they wanted to get more into watch collecting. Sure their quality sucks, but at the end of the day if it brings in more people into the world of watches I see it as a win in the long run.
@Nomad-bi6su
@Nomad-bi6su 5 жыл бұрын
Everything about him looks fake. Just like his watches.
@Black182heart
@Black182heart 5 жыл бұрын
Before saying anything I would like to say that I dont own a mvmt watch . I am not a watch enthusiast by any means. I have just 3 Japanese watches from seiko, orient and casio gshock. Having said that I don't understand why are people hating on mvmt watches ? Maybe because they have nothing to do? How is the price of a commodity set in the market ? Through demand and supply. If people are willing to pay 200plus dollars for mvmt watch then how is that wrong ? As long as there is demand the watch company will keep on supplying the watch. That's not anything to hate about. And the thing about high markup, what's wrong with a high markup ? Is there a limit set by world leaders on what the markup on watches all over the world should be ? I am quite sure that their watches isn't a value for money when you can buy orient and seiko watches but still that's not an illegal thing to do. Save you hatred for criminals, rapists, terrorist and corruption politicians not for people why are doing business legally. And the final thing of their excessive marketing, I dont think there is any limit set by world leaders on how a company should market or push its products. I strongly believe that companies like orient should also focus on marketing which will automatically attract people to quality watches. Peace
@SirReddit
@SirReddit 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, I don't know why people don't like mvmt watches. I'm not a watch enthusiast and I don't give a shit about the internals of the watch, as long as it can tell the time and feels and looks quality, its a good watch in my eyes. I would much rather pay for a mvmt watch than a timex or seiko since the I fancy the design of mvmt watches. Don't get why so many people are being salty, the average consumer doesn't give a shit about the movement of a watch, they care about aesthetics.
@he.de.7491
@he.de.7491 5 жыл бұрын
@@Black182heart I think you shouldn't only consider the point value for money, the point of everyone's one decision. You should also consider on what cost for the people and the environment these watches are produced. For me as a watch enthusiast there's only one answer for that point: they are not only overpriced cheap watches that people get ripped off with, they are also a threat for people's wealth. By the way: very nice that you own such nice watches.
@Nomad-bi6su
@Nomad-bi6su 5 жыл бұрын
Black182heart , What He. de. said. They're ripping off avg income people who just don't know any better. For the price they charge you can easily get a Seiko, Citizen or other solid watches with branded movements. So don't just drop long ass essays. Jeez.
@mantouism
@mantouism 5 жыл бұрын
​@@SirReddit Because watches is not art until you get to the high end of the spectrum, the quality of a watch can be objectively measured.
@crimsonstreams
@crimsonstreams 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this video should have a lot more recognition, great quality Teddy.
@nicholasmead
@nicholasmead 5 жыл бұрын
What a bloody insightful documentary. Very well done. As much as I wouldn't buy a movement watch, they certainly got my respect for saying yes to the interview.
@BrandonBeans
@BrandonBeans 4 жыл бұрын
This has been in my 'watch later' for too long. Since I have to #StayAtHome I finally got to watch this. Bravo.
@rickyhou7684
@rickyhou7684 5 жыл бұрын
Unforgettable Moment 39:40 You Tell Them! Nicely done Teddy great video!
@FatherVampire
@FatherVampire 3 жыл бұрын
MVMT -- The greatest monument and testament to arguably the truest maxim ever written: "No one in this world has ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people." - H.L. Mencken
@keepcarsfun
@keepcarsfun 5 жыл бұрын
I just got a Tissot Chrono, swiss made for $450 AUD. The watch is absolutely beautiful. This cannot be compared to a $250 AUD mvmt in any way. Save a little more and get something that is really worth you money.
@mariofloresrivera9920
@mariofloresrivera9920 5 жыл бұрын
You can almost get 2 watches for 450, which is their point. You are getting nearly the same materials they use. The Tissot is a beauty, but is a bit overpriced imo
@mariofloresrivera9920
@mariofloresrivera9920 5 жыл бұрын
@Teej sadly, just like anything that says Apple 😆
@cmiller7299
@cmiller7299 4 жыл бұрын
37:31 Courtney nailed it. So, you did a "gotcha" interview trying to expose...what? That a company makes products in China and sells them at mark-up? That marketing is more important than the product? Biggest take away is that Jake has balls to accept such an interview.
@idahowatchenthusiasts
@idahowatchenthusiasts 5 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. Good for you teddy. Needed to be done. High praise for your outro as well
@flytheskymyway
@flytheskymyway 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious Ending! Well done 👍 The comical dispute at the end revealed you both have thespian skills (teddy and videographer.)
@NizarSenussi
@NizarSenussi 5 жыл бұрын
This video did MVMT no favors at all. Thanks Teddy for keeping true.
@E3KGaming
@E3KGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is an easy bang out. These watches are not for watch enthusiasts, they are for everyone else. They are fashion/style pieces and make a nice accessory to someones outfit / look. Fossil has been in this space and has done the best job of it for decades before mvmt and still is a leader, maybe say the same about Armani and all of the other fashion brands. Who sits down with them and shakes their finger at them? Holding a fashion watch brand to the same standard as a watch enthusiasts brand is ridiculous. Almost everyone I know has a watch of some kind, but I rarely meet someone that knows about watch heritage, movements, etc, and that's 99.999% of the population. If mvmt made watches to compete with Rolex, they wouldn't exist. Good for him/them, much respect.
@uiualumni
@uiualumni 5 жыл бұрын
Two things... #1 you need to incorporate Courtney more into your videos and #2 keep telling people to f@#k off. Awesome job Teddy.
@lucioledizerot196
@lucioledizerot196 5 жыл бұрын
I died laughing during the Archie segment. Even the MVMT guy went along with the joke.
@ljr35
@ljr35 5 жыл бұрын
Good work. I wouldn't stress over any of the flaws you think are in this - given your budget and experience you did a remarkable job. I confess I was not a fan of your early videos but you have really grown into it. Looking forward to seeing more like this.
@timmanion7459
@timmanion7459 4 жыл бұрын
I just caught your documentary with Jake . Where to start !!! You're 100% correct in your evaluation of their watches. All of us in the watch world know that they're peices of shit. He agreed to this video to back up his business, not his watches. Thise of us that truly appreciate the artisanship and craftsmanship and mechanical complexity of truly fine watches are definitely emotionally invested in this addiction. Even his partner(I think) , when you ask him what his favorite vintage watch was , didn't really appear to know but rather was trying to think of something he'd read from his vintage book . Just my observation. Anyway , dies it hurt the watch community. I truly don't know . How many people will actually become interested in watches because they bought an MVMT watch ? Not many . I give Jake props for showing up, and also for creating a successful business. After all , this is the USA and he has the freedom here to do that . When we talk about the market , obviously there's a market for them and they tapped into that market . I guess , to me , it says that there's a whole generation of young people that look at a watch as a throw away item and are pleased to be able to buy something at that price point. They really have nothing invested in one of those watches
@TeddyBaldassarre
@TeddyBaldassarre 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% with your assessment tim! Thanks for watching.
@mpikers
@mpikers 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a watch guy through and through (why else would I be subscribed to TB) but I honestly don't get why there is so much hate towards MVMT. I also don't get why they are talked about so much by the watch community, seems like a lot of wasted time and energy. These watches are not geared towards watch geeks/nerds/enthusiasts, they are fashion watches that they expect "normal" (not watch geek) people to buy without putting too much thought into it. Yes, there are much better options in the watch world if you want to factor in things like the movement or brand heritage, but the average Joe/Jane doesn't care about that, they just want something that looks cool. And per Mr. Biver, these cheap watches can serve as jumping off points for many to enter the world of higher-end watches. There are parallels to MVMT in almost any industry, especially those with large enthusiast communities. Take beer for example, millions of people drink Bud Light and are perfectly happy with it while beer enthusiasts probably wouldn't be caught dead drinking it. Bud light isn't targeting the beer enthusiast crowd, they are trying to appeal to the masses.
@eduardomora7035
@eduardomora7035 5 жыл бұрын
Bud Light sells at a fair price point, you get what you paid for, same for a Guiness or craft beer, in the MVMT case they have a profit of 2000%, that's a scam no matter what they say...
@lapelcelery42
@lapelcelery42 4 жыл бұрын
@@eduardomora7035 Can we see some evidence of that?
@DeluluDan
@DeluluDan 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Beavers quote. If there's one thing I can give to MVMT, it would be introducing me to this amazing hobby and appreciation to more sophisticated and unique watches. It helped me find this very channel among others. Their marketing did a decent job at "opening the door to this universe".
@entwouanne
@entwouanne 5 жыл бұрын
during his life sentence he should wear a orient bambino come on
@guille_snapshooter
@guille_snapshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Jess pick up one, they are great! I love mine
@brianwca
@brianwca 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally inappropriate sentence! He doesn't deserve a Seiko 5! He should wear a MVMT watch even years after it breaks!
@entwouanne
@entwouanne 5 жыл бұрын
Jess really good thing teddy talk often of this watch really good price with style and fine movement. I think its a really nice affordable piece
@entwouanne
@entwouanne 5 жыл бұрын
Brian C i believe more in rehabilitation😬
@jim8571
@jim8571 4 жыл бұрын
You mean an Invicta 😂
@DerekRyanTwo
@DerekRyanTwo 4 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of MVMT watches, but respect to this guy for being open to talking and taking on the tough questions.
@PT111111
@PT111111 5 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, I actually considered getting the MVMT watch so I don't really mind the brand. Luckily I am never really into dressy or fashion watch. Casio saved me with their Pro Trek watch, then on to G-Shock, then the SARB, then dive watches, and now finally I'm starting to look at dress watches.
@Mikedawgs
@Mikedawgs 3 жыл бұрын
MVMT WATCHES are not my cup of tea but I do respect the hustle !
@nikhilmathur6042
@nikhilmathur6042 5 жыл бұрын
Why do they all seem STONED at MVMT
@HJC2513
@HJC2513 5 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Mathur wouldn’t surprise me if they are, their watches seem to reflect this anyway!
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 5 жыл бұрын
@@HJC2513 what about people who buy their second piece from them?
@TKsheng
@TKsheng 5 жыл бұрын
When you have a 100 million, you can get stoned all you want and just order your work from Ali 😂
@mrxcman9272
@mrxcman9272 4 жыл бұрын
Dude its California.
@thestuffmikedoes2309
@thestuffmikedoes2309 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because they’re young and can obviously afford to have some...fun 😂
@arnaubermudez9260
@arnaubermudez9260 5 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that MVMT watches do not compete with those on the higher end. In my opinion they’re in the market to sell good looking watches with different features catered for regular and simple people that care a bit more about good aesthetic than functionality. They actually offer a fair price taking into consideration that they deliver the products quickly, the customer is also able to buy the products from anywhere at any time and all they have to do is simply press a screen for a couple of times. Certainly the value exists, that’s why consumers actually buy their products and trust their brand. People know what they are buying, they are not dumb. The problem with the criteria of most people hating on MVMT, is when they compare the value of the cost of goods expecting a better price on the product in comparison to what it cost them to manufacture. The reality of it is, that it isn’t their business model to create the type of value that you’re trying to make sense off in this video. This has happened for ages. Let’s use food as an example, you can buy healthy food from a farm at a low cost. That doesn’t mean that people who enjoy healthy food should go directly to a farm in order to buy that kind of food, they could also get it in a variety of different stores that present, brand, package, market and deliver the exact same product in a different way and that inevitably affects the cost. There’s also cheaper options for processed foods that are delivered fast, at a great cost and that some people find quite tasteful (FAST FOOD), but guess what? people enjoy having all the options. Consumers will buy whatever value they need in their lives, and that is essentially a great thing about capitalism. The consumer is actually the one winning. Anyways, I think nobody should have a problem with a company like MVMT, and if you do have a problem just don’t buy their products. It’s as simple as that really. Hating on a company that is essentially a reflection of a basic human behavior is a waste of time that could be better invested. People can hate and judge the methods of some legal corporations all they want but I assure you, it won’t make a difference. In a free market capitalist society you have the opportunity of offering an alternative product to compete with the corporations you do not agree with. That in and of itself will give anyone a better chance of impacting the market rather than just personal opinions and judgment.
@Teshyb21
@Teshyb21 5 жыл бұрын
This is hands down one of my favorite youtube videos I’ve seen and i’m probably on youtube for an hour a day to wind may day down. Great job Teddy! Love your channel and I love this concept
@watchfiend8059
@watchfiend8059 2 жыл бұрын
Fashion watches serve the purpose of opening the door to the watch world so thank you MVMT for that
@thewristwatchexperience8153
@thewristwatchexperience8153 5 жыл бұрын
That guy that compared MVMT to Rolex got it wrong Rolex was started by two businessmen - not watchmakers just like MVMT At the start Rolex used sourced movements just like MVMT Rolex was one the first brands to use influencers just like MVMT do these days Spooky !!
@willardhooton920
@willardhooton920 5 жыл бұрын
The Wristwatch Experience Rolex innovated. MVMT just made cash💰
@uyt6uyt5
@uyt6uyt5 5 жыл бұрын
Even spookier, Jake Kassan is Hans Wilsdorf's great grandson.
@thewristwatchexperience8153
@thewristwatchexperience8153 5 жыл бұрын
@@willardhooton920 I should have said Rolex is good at making cash too. Plus Rolex have been caught red handed lying in the past also Rolex have lied.
@Egghead1902
@Egghead1902 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, mad respect to you for asking the tough questions to his face, and much more respect to him for taking it, staying respectful and keeping his cool. He is an entrepreneur doing his thing, and very successful at it, nothing wrong with that! Cheers to you Teddy, and to Jake, great video.
@devin7551
@devin7551 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job man, i love how he just pretty much said yeaha u can buy better shit for less money
@leonardomagana7762
@leonardomagana7762 2 жыл бұрын
Teddy, you are a legend.... I've followed and loved your content for 2 yrs now and always love coming back and watching your videos. Keep 'em coming mate. KUDOS
@din0chickennuggets
@din0chickennuggets 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy a MVMT myself, but I do find it hypocritical that watch snobs will trash someone else for buying a MVMT watch because of its value to price ratio but then praise at the altar of someone who pays double MSRP, another 30K, on the used market for a Nautilus 5711, which is just a three hand sports watch. All of us who buy traditional luxury automatic watches have to admit that there's something inherently illogical with our buying decisions. They do nothing that isn't done better by new technology that can be purchased for cheaper. If someone buys MVMT and likes it because they think it looks good, more power to them. It's no less silly than spending the price of a car on an automatic timepiece that doesn't keep time better than your phone.
@innoc3ntbystndr
@innoc3ntbystndr 5 жыл бұрын
Well, u missed the point. MVMT is hated because of false marketing and there are other good quality watches at the same price point like Timex, Citizen, Orient and Seiko. The watch community isn’t thrashing those who buy fashion watches but even admitted that brands like MVMT , DW, vincero are gateway watches but there are way better options than these poor quality Chinese made watches.
@din0chickennuggets
@din0chickennuggets 5 жыл бұрын
@@innoc3ntbystndr Their marketing is pretty genius, if a bit exploitative IMO. People aren't buying them for things like heritage or build quality, they buy them because they look nice and the brand has established itself as the hot trend. No one except watch guys care an ounce about heritage - for 99% of people looking at buying a watch, it's just jewelry to them. I wore a $100 Skagen all of my early to mid twenties instead of my Seiko because simply, it looked better, was easier to match with clothing, and garnered more compliments. Timex, Citizen, Seiko, etc are better made watches, sure. I agree to that point. But they also haven't made the effort to establish themselves as the cool hip product to buy so its easy to see how these fashion watch companies have made so much money at their expense. Perhaps if any watch brand outside of Rolex or Omega had any competent marketing department at all, the fashion brands wouldn't be as successful as they are.
@innoc3ntbystndr
@innoc3ntbystndr 5 жыл бұрын
din0chickennuggets , timex and seiko are changing their approach now. I believe that the new version of the seiko 5s target market is the fashion brands consumers. I agree with u tho that they need to up their marketing game👍🏼
@clauricaune
@clauricaune 4 жыл бұрын
Weird the guy agreed to the interview, considering he didn't have any good answers to questions he should have seen coming 100 miles away. Anyway, gotta respect the dude as a businessman. He found a market, played it smart, made millions of dollars, fair and square.
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