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[@chrisrichardson8315]

As a new woodworker I like these type videos. I only have a very low end set of chisels so I’ll use your link. Thanks

[@MWAWoodworks]

Glad you liked the video Chris!

[@dhs186]

if you have no wood working tools at all, then the bot did a good job picking tools

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yes. Well a pretty good job.

[@TheIdeasGuy]

@@MWAWoodworksas I mentioned in detail in a main comment out in the comment section, it did a very good job. You made some good points but as a whole, I agree with the chatbot more than I agree with you about the combo square and the hammer. And I don’t typically toot my own horn but I am a professional in this area at least as much as you are. My point is, every professional will have their own opinions and in this case I disagree with two of yours.

[@IQLion]

I was intrigued by this video, so I did a similar search and asked for a $1000 limit, which is quite common for beginner woodworkers. The main difference was the recommendation for a jobsite table saw, miter saw, a router and a coreless drill. I wasn't recommended a circular saw, which I think is almost a must in my small shop. Chatbot went with a Dewalt random orbital sander, which I would be ok with. I also received recommendations for clamps, safety gear, and some additional hand tools, which I really appreciated. What I found interesting is that the mallet recommendation I received was for a 3lb sledgehammer, which tells me that chatbots are not good at knowing the difference between a mallet and a hammer. I feel like every woodworker should have at least a $10 hammer in their shop, but I honest can't think of a good use for a sledgehammer. If you have to use one, you are probably not a good woodworker.

[@SpencleyDesignCo]

i'd be super interested to know what router bits a chat bot would recommend first!

[@davidcole333]

The AI bot thinks DIY=carpentry=woodworking. 30 minutes of surfing KZbin would have provided a better list than the bot. My advice for first tools for newbies is to go table saw and router...you can do a boatload of work with those two items. Buy the best you can afford. After that, I would add in clamps, sander and chisels. Also...most critical before spending a dollar on tools is actually having a place you can do work and set up a bench or work table of some kind.

[@MWAWoodworks]

I thought that it would be worse than it was.

[@charlieking9214]

Thank you for making all your videos. We are currently starting to sell off our trucking company and plan to retire. Along with friends and family, we have built houses in the past. But never any fine wood work. So I'll be starting out utilizing my 10" Dewalt rack and pinion contractors saw along with a track saw to make cabinets for our garage/wood shop. So far, you have the most instructive videos I've found. As a thank you and as of today, we purchased about twelve items from your Amazon linked store. We hope this helps. Though the flat measuring tape had changed. We elected to pick up the Hart flat tape. Thank you for your help. We appreciate it. Hopefully we will start on our cabinets in about 45 days.

[@TheIdeasGuy]

Ok I’ve already commented but I’m going to put my professional opinion in here because … I am what you might call a professional (a few red blooded Americans might get that reference). All 5 of the chatbot’s recommendations were good. The circular saw is solid. I agree with your comments about battery saws but a beginning woodworker might not want to spend the money on batteries etc. yet, and choosing a brand can be daunting for a beginner. The combination square is fine. I have had to true up various squares over the years, including some of my more expensive ones. I wouldn’t trust any square to be true from the shop and surprisingly, in my experience, some of the most accurate squares from the shop were actually cheaper ones. Buy a square, check it and adjust it if needed. Combination squares are easy to adjust and get precisely accurate. The hammer is a solid recommendation for a beginner. Yes, it’s more for construction work but it’s only a tiny little 16 ounce hammer that’ll be fine for a beginner to use in the workshop as they start learning the basics. I still use my steel hammers far more than any mallets, just because that’s what I do. I agree with you regarding the chisels although for a beginner woodworker, a much cheaper set of Stanley or Bahco chisels will absolutely get the job done - and well. They’re made of perfectly decent steel and even if they do need slightly more regular sharpening, the practice at the whetstone won’t be wasted on a beginner. And finally, the sander. I can’t argue with that either. Any of the bigger brands would suffice: Makita, Dewalt, Bosch etc., a 5 inch random orbital sander from any of them will last the test of time and do a good job in a comfortable manner. As for your comments about dust collection … yeah you’re right. That’s one thing that I’m aware of and after I don’t know how many years of woodworking, my shop vac still sits in the corner covered in dust and virtually unused. My bad.

[@NWGR]

I'd put PEC a step above the igauging; they're basically starrett accuracy and quality without the starrett price. 4" and 6" double squares by PEC are my most used layout tools. My starrett combo square is great, but not used as often.

[@MWAWoodworks]

I have both the 4 and 6" double squares from PEC and would agree I use them a lot.

[@Zamboni-0805]

The corded Dewalt Circular saw has an dust collection adaper that you can buy seperately, whereas the cordless Dewalt circular has no option.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yeah someone else mentioned that. I wish they sold it with the saw. I'm sure just a small piece of plastic.

[@makermark67]

Great twist on the whole "recommended tools" lists that are all over the interwebs. Always love your content and projects. You do great work. Thanks for sharing.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Thanks Mark!

[@genemcintyre5352]

NO ONE HAS PICKED A TAPE MEASURE. For my first house, I had a Good Hammer, Hand Saw, Square, Folding 1 meter Rule ( a ruler is the head of a country) and a 1" chisel still in use today. With those few tools, you can build just about anything. Saw horses and the like we made. You would get all that for under $100.

[@gwarlow]

3:10 Bare tool and plenty of expensive batteries… I think the corded version is just fine - great pick bot! Cheers.

[@g.efaber482]

Love my Narex chisels!!

[@Erik_The_Viking]

I have an adapter for my Makita circular saw (came with the saw), which does work well for picking up sawdust. The trick is getting the hose to fit correctly. Overall the recommendations were pretty good. I have a couple of "beater chisels" and a Irwin/Marples chisel set which is okay but eventually I'll get the Narex down the road.

[@MWAWoodworks]

I have the Marples as well, bought 10 or so years ago and I've upgrades over the years

[@TheIdeasGuy]

How old are your Marples chisels? Modern ones don’t hold a candle to old ones. The old ones made in Sheffield in England are actually quite decent quality and absolutely worth owning. Modern ones … not so much. Marples sold out a few decades ago and the new owner company doesn’t give a damn about quality.

[@Erik_The_Viking]

​@@TheIdeasGuy Mine are definitely more recent (15 years or so). I agree that the older chisels are definitely higher quality

[@4321Woodworking]

I like this kind of video! The one area didn't touch on was for example with chisels going to need a way to sharpen them so there is added costs associated with that tool purchase just to keep them going as a useful tool. You already had the stones to sharpen and get them ready but a new wood worker wouldn't.

[@MWAWoodworks]

That's correct! And that's also true with blades for the saw and sandpaper for the sander.

[@ericguillot6402]

I recently found a set of 6 Narex chisels without handles, for $60 from Tay Tools online. They have the handled ones one but not sure the cost. For that I'll make my own set of handles from the scrap I got lying around.

[@jsmxwll]

The 7-1/4" saw will have a wider blade selection and dirt cheap blades if that is something that matters to the buyer.

[@sociopathmercenary]

All my work is DIY. I've had pretty good luck with Irwin chisels and such but they usually need to be tuned up a bit. I'm usually shopping in the high low tier or low middle tier... Primarily because I'm a cheap bastard and I'm not making heirloom furniture.

[@MWAWoodworks]

That makes perfect sense

[@a9ball1]

I think for a beginner the bot got 5 of 5. You don't need a highly accurate combo square if you are only going to use it twice a year or you are a total newbie and don't even realize how much difference it would make. Everyone needs a hammer. How else can you hit your thumb?

[@MWAWoodworks]

😂

[@markshipman4864]

Better than I expected.😅

[@MWAWoodworks]

Ha! Right?

[@larryh7760]

I think in general the recommendations are good. They seem like they are well suited for projects around the house and for the yard. Not so much for finer woodworking.

[@MWAWoodworks]

yep I agree

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting idea, Matt! And the AI didn't go that bad! 😊 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@MWAWoodworks]

Thanks friend!

[@natepeterson7145]

Estwing made in Rockford Illinois

[@MWAWoodworks]

🇺🇸

[@alrives]

Great concept and well executed!

[@MWAWoodworks]

Much appreciated!

[@frijoli9579]

I had to laugh when you lumped Woodpecker and Starrett in the same category.

[@MWAWoodworks]

🤷

[@dusbus2384]

I'd trade in the chisels for a cordless drill. I've built plenty of stuff with nary a chisel.

[@brianmeeko915]

That dewalt circular saw does have an adapter you can buy to hook up vacuum. It made a huge difference. I hated using that saw in the woodshop until I got that adapter. Added the adapter Upgraded the blade Now I'm like, who needs a track saw

[@MWAWoodworks]

Wow! I need to check that out. Wonder why they don't sell it with rhe saw 🤔

[@philshock3805]

@@MWAWoodworks I have the adapter as well. I don't think it's track-saw efficient but does a pretty good job. I'd say it collects 60 - 75% of the dust. Doesn't look like the 6.5in cordless version can accept it because it doesn't have the same port.

[@philshock3805]

Interesting exercise. The AI did a lot better than I thought it would. Especially considering for someone "brand new" to woodworking, picking only 5 tools as the "best" to get started with is an extremely challenging exercise. Hard to imagine any functioning person interested in woodworking doesn't already own a common hammer, and I'd argue a speed square would be more useful with circular saw use. That said, I have a set of Narex chisels, the same DeWalt corded circular saw, and the same Bosch sander ... all purchased years ago. Which begs the question - is AI really necessary? lol

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yeah 5 tools only is very challenging indeed. And AI is definitely not necessary however that won't stop people from heavily relying on it in the future 🤣

[@genemcintyre5352]

Yes a speed square is excellent. In schools today you still use hand saws as a power saw is very unforgiving for a novice.

[@chadgreen100]

I feel like it should have added a drill/driver instead of a metal hammer. Also, dewalt makes an accessory for the corded circular saw for better dust collection for about 12.99.

[@MWAWoodworks]

agree with the drill! Also 2 other people mentioned the adapter for the saw. Not sure why they don't just sell it with the saw? Its just a small plastic piece.

[@karatekid10908]

First of all love the video. Secondly, its interesting that you dont like the hammer recommendation because you dont use one and use a nail gun instead but the beginner woodworker might not have the money to get an air compressor and nail gun. It was only recently that I was able to get my hands on a compressor from a friend for a decent price and all he had were framing guns. So I still need to buy nail guns. Just thinking it wasnt as bad a recommendation as you made it sound. But thats just me

[@MWAWoodworks]

Well I wouldn't recommend a power nailer to a beginner. I would recommend one of the other three mallets I talked about over a hammer which has limited use in a woodshop

[@jimrosson6702]

Great video cool too see what it recommended

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yeah it was a fun exercise

[@PriceyBuilt]

I think it did an OK job, but it's hard to construct anything without some sort of clamp. And unless you're going full on traditional joinery, you are going to need a drill of some sort. I'd take either of those over the chisels. A claw hammer isn't "wrong" per see, just not the most suitable type of hitting device.

[@MWAWoodworks]

yes, I probably wouldnt buy chisels at first, and yes you def need a drill.

[@Jaypark1113]

You are really turning into content creator.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Ha! Thanks man!

[@flboy77]

Good video, but I would have liked to have seen more of the conversation with the AI Overlord. It might be "AI", but it still has to be given some clues.

[@MWAWoodworks]

You saw the entire conversation

[@flboy77]

@@MWAWoodworks Ha! No wonder it recommended a hammer! Nice concept. Would be fun to see how deep the AI knowledge is if it is given more info.

[@flboy77]

@@MWAWoodworks I asked a different way and got these 5 suggestions: Random Orbital Sander: Bosch ROS20VSC: This sander offers a good balance between performance and affordability, with variable speed control and effective dust collection. Chisels: Narex Richter: Narex chisels are known for their excellent value and quality. The Narex Richter line offers a range of sizes and is well-regarded among woodworkers. Block Plane: Stanley 12-139 Bailey No.60-1/2: This block plane is a solid choice, known for its durability and precision. It has an adjustable mouth and performs well for various woodworking tasks. Dovetail Saw: Gyokucho 372: Gyokucho is a respected Japanese brand that produces high-quality saws. Their dovetail saws are renowned for their sharpness and cutting accuracy. Router: Bosch 1617EVSPK: This router is a popular choice among woodworkers due to its versatility and performance. It comes with both fixed and plunge bases, allowing for a wide range of applications.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Not bad although I'd buy many things before a dovetail saw, unless I was going full hand tools.

[@kenmitchell3784]

Never trust a bot to make a decision that you are capable of doing yourself

[@MWAWoodworks]

So true!

[@PriceyBuilt]

The assumption is that a complete beginner would not be capable of making that decision. They simply don't know what to buy. They can use Google to find sites/videos that provide recommendations and then spend a couple of hours trying to work out which recommendations are best for them, or they can spend 2 minutes getting AI to do it for them. In this case, the AI has done a passable job, but probably not good enough.

[@tekviper9]

This video was original and sets you apart from on mindless Woodworking CNC videos saturating the maker yputube scene. I think you should make more like this as AI seems to be trending in the news today and should help you. Thank you.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Thanks for the kind words! 🙌

[@Damon_Barber]

I’m giving the Bot a pass on everything but the hammer and the chisels. Woodworkers glue and screw, so unless you are breaking down pallets for wood, a claw hammer is unnecessary. A beginner woodworker does not have an absolute NEED for chisels. Instead, I would go for a drill driver (glue and SCREW) and a 12’ or 16’ tape measure. Then again, I can’t believe clamps didn’t make the list either. 😮😊 Great video!

[@MWAWoodworks]

yep I agree!

[@glennsmith2762]

I liked the video, but disagreed with you in the hammer. Yes a power nailer is a better choice, but for a beginner rhe hammer is the more economical route. If a beginner finds they don't enjoy the craft and decides not to pursue it then they are only out a few dollars for the hammer and not the hundred or so for the power nailer.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yeah for sure. I wasn't suggesting a nailer over a hammer. I was suggesting a number of mallets that are more appropriate than a hammer in the woodshop.

[@-11BRAVO-]

I have the cordless dewalt circular saw and in my opinion it’s garbage. I thought it was just my battery so I replaced that and it’s still garbage. Stick to corded or just pull the trigger on track saw, corded that is.

[@genemcintyre5352]

WE ARE ALL WRONG. After looking at a lot of replies and even my own answers, I think to Buy them an introductory course to woodworking and let them go from there. Like inlay or cubby house building. The job will define the tools.

[@genemcintyre5352]

Ahh, if it's your first 5 tools, I don't think you have either a nail gun or a wooden mallet. Having built several homes and going to a teck school in the 60's you can build a he'll of a lot of wood working projects with the suggested items. But for me no 5 would have been a tape measure. Taking my boots off to measure 5 feet doesn't work with metric. Also being your first 5 tools implies low skill measure, thus cheap multi angle square is good. Particularly as there was no budget. AI 4 VS you 2

[@MWAWoodworks]

😂

[@FatherOfTheParty]

Seems you needed to make up reasons to call the choices 'whiffs'. It recommended a combination square and you were unhappy with the brand selected. You admit that it picked a hammer (which is required for the chisels) but you didn't like *that* hammer. Did you give it a budget? Did you specify that you were exclusively doing woodworking and define what that term means to you? The LLMs are only as good as the context with which they are presented.

[@MWAWoodworks]

Yep in the very beginning of the video I told it I was a NEW woodworker and told it to give me specific tool recommendations. The combo square it recommended is a waste of money and not suitable for woodworking. The hammer is completely the wrong kind of hammer for woodworking and you cannot strike chisels with that kind of hammer unless you like broken chisel handles LOL. Thanks for watching!

[@genemcintyre5352]

@@MWAWoodworks My first chisel (Stanley early 70's) had a steel centre in the handle with a metal hammer point on the back. Over the years It has been shortened by about 2 inches from resharpening and at times I have been very hard on it, it takes all the punishment I give out.

[@OliverReinhard]

Well, this story is arbitrary and the result totally non-conclusive: what would YOU recommend as my FIRST 5 tools for a new woodworking shop? All you seemed to judge was whether the bot recommended good value. So it’s once more down to an evaluation of efficiency where effectiveness should be key. At least the bot recommended a hammer for the chisels but that went uncommented, but then this may be a coincidence …

[@MWAWoodworks]

I actually agreed that the circ saw, sander, and combo square were all good first tools to be on the list. Maybe that wasn't clear. Also you'd never use a hammer like that one on a chisel. That's why I explained the use of mallets in a workshop! Thanks for watching!

[@OliverReinhard]

Thanks for getting back on my points! I fully agree on the hammer and you also made this very clear in your video. What I meant to say is that the bot was "smart" enough to include something WITH the chisels to apply more force. This is most likely due to the fact that texts used to train the bot use chisel and hammer together in the same contexts. Knowing only text, current chat bots have no notion of what a chisel and a hammer even is. 😮

[@AlainStar]

🙏👏👍💪

[@MWAWoodworks]

😃

[@TheIdeasGuy]

Every square should be checked for accuracy before use and if it isn’t square, it needs to be trued up. I’ve trued several combo squares over the years, it’s easy and quick. You just need a flat needle file and 5 minutes of patience. Most types of squares can be trued up using a variety of techniques, check out how to true your particular square by searching on KZbin. This guy’s advice about the combo square is not good advice.

[@-11BRAVO-]

All of us longtime viewers are here for whatever you post. But leave AI out of it. You do great work with your own intelligence. Lol

[@woodworks2123]

I think those tools are spot on, I think the hammer is also a necessity as you said to the bot your a new woodworker, that could mean anything, what kind of woodworking I'm a woodworker, I build custom furniture but I also do joinery work, general construction is woodworking. I think if you had said to the bot you want to make fine furniture in a workshop you may have got a different recommendation.

[@IQLion]

Yep, I agree. Also, if you work with hand tools, and decide to make a mortise, what are you using to strike your chisels?