MX4SIO - General Troubleshooting Tips and Tricks, and Game Compatibility Spreadsheet (2022)

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Are you a MX4SIO user? If yes, let us know how you like the project so far and/or what ps2 games you wish were working for this new mod? Otherwise, happy gaming!

[@That_Handle]

🔥 Would like to see rep.s in the PlayStation 2 online gaming communities brought in who are equipped to do testing for this device's spreadsheet - in the video description - since bringing in so many slim models back into sevice and also giving another option for phat PS2 owners not doing an IDE adaptation could benefit the online and LAN-tunneling community greatly. Have heard and read countless occasions how failing optical drives and lackluster USB 1.1 speed are the barrier to entry for slim owners and that, for HDD bay PS2 owners, if not for their prospects of identifying a proper IDE adaptation with functioning ethernet on into also possibly the installation of the mod are barriers/impedances to getting online with their PS2s. ⏭️ From there, the info (or, at least, a link to the MX4SIO's sheet?) could be used by the owner / editors of the online PS2 games spreadsheet to determine if they want to add a Compatibility section column listing "MX4SIO [or other]" next to USB, DVD, HDD and "emulator" along with any Comments (typically, constraints regarding desyncing with other online PS2s and lack of VMC support) as well as any pertinent update affecting column R - ~prerequisite special considerations needed to play online. 👏👍🖖🤟 Game _On!_

[@tnaplastic2182]

@@That_Handle Regarding the Speed-running community! They ACTUALLY should take PS2-Models AND storage-devices into account! This is true for ALL devices! The difference of MX4SIO on FAT +70k Slim vs. DECKARD-PS2s (75k+) is quite big currently! I agree that MX4SIO is a good addition regarding online-gaming! The bandwidth is high enough and it still can be used for online- and LAN-Gaming! MC as well as VMCs are technically working, but the current official builds are bugged! "BDM3" has the best support IMO!

[@chevlinpodhorodeski9814]

Just got into it. Kinda just took a swim in the deep end with it lol

[@Blade-Rave]

Going to be playing Armored Core 2 - Armored Core Last Raven, so hoping the PS2 era games for Armored Core can get some love

[@guybehindacamera]

I like it personally. What I have noticed with the latest beta build in 2023 there has been a massive improvement in loading games that weren’t previously playable. For instance resident evil outbreak works now on the latest beta build

[@OKNewman]

Community sourced compatability list is a fire idea, much respect!

[@tnaplastic2182]

My idea, but THX to Versatile for setting it up (online) and merging Anakin94 and my test-results and my structure of the former offline sheet (file) into it.

[@OKNewman]

@@tnaplastic2182 well, thank you and Anakin94 for your efforts!

[@tnaplastic2182]

@@OKNewman THX! Multiple people joined the effort now. :)

[@That_Handle]

3:18 - _Thank you!_ for that PS2 MC-slot contact maintenance tip. 👍 Couple 3900x models here that used to be finicky/needed the MC pulled back out ever so slightly after insertion so they would read their MCs no longer need such a deft touch. 🍻

[@BashoStrikes]

I recently picked up a Mcboot and MX4 combo on Amazon for 29 bucks. I did the drag and drop routine with the main files from the sd that came with the product to a larger SanDisk exfat sd and loaded all my favorite RPGs with box art. No splitting games into chunks, and all 32 games run flawlessly.

[@guybehindacamera]

Same here! I’m amazed by the latest beta build. Interestingly enough resident evil outbreak works now in the latest beta build. May I ask what sd card your using because it seems to be picky with that

[@BashoStrikes]

@@guybehindacamera I've used PNY and SanDisk - no problems whatsoever. Cheers!!

[@djd-cepticon7215]

Great vid, man! And that compatibility list has grown fast lol! Going to ask for perms soon so I can start adding💯

[@That_Handle]

If there has been a way to monitor when the magic gate is creating a game save file or when the file is ~updating, then can that signal be used for a memory card page-switching circuit to automatically flip between the MX over to a second (or 3rd/4th) MC(s) for the game-save plausibly built into the same shell? .... If not in the same shell, if it produces greater flexibility without introducing risk and keeps its price lower, is it possible to create a stacked/daisy-chained memory card engagement into the same MC slot as the MX with the above page-switching circuit built-in so the consumer can use their own cards ~daisy-chained into the same memory card slot? 🤔 If there isn't first a [write] status-change bit/signal sent out through the magic gate that could trigger the memory card page-switching circuit, then would a plausible alternative be a ~bucket brigade staggering of the game save data in which an MX's page-switching circuit would utilize the bucket brigade to afford itself time to see the incoming traffic just long enough for it to ~react by switching over to the game save function then possibly look for a pause or [completed game-save] ~signal at which point the memory card page-switching circuit flips back to the MX? Forgive the over-simplification but it seems like it's a matter of taking a _rough_ understanding of the cadence in events then knowing when to manage the march of the event-specific information utilizing little more than what amounts to a ~traffic light intersection that has sensors built into the street managing the two possible paths of data, as an allegory. 🤷‍♂️

[@TheOriginalVersatile]

Another tip is if you start BDM manually and you don't see the MX4SIO show up, reinsert and it will be detected assuming adapter is working

[@amittraders3242]

Nice information thanks sir

[@jakethesnake4040]

This is a neat mod. It’s not what I expected though. Is there a PS2 memory card with an SD adaptor for save files? I think being able to have upgradable save space, plus being able to move your saves onto a pc for backups, also you can keep a small booklet of different SD cards instead of a ton of ps2 memory cards which are much bigger. It’d be pretty cool and useful, I’m sure it exists and I just haven’t seen it. I know ps1 has something like that I believe

[@That_Handle]

Have wondered if the MemCardPro team might entertain creating such a product that already has built-in WiFi among other features. Although, given the option by OPL-FreeMCboot to save to and transfer via USB stick/USB-SD adapter, there likely isn't as much ~demand/incentive. .... Now, HDMI output with, preferrably, onboard upscaling to meet 4k screens ~half-way, on the other hand, would have higher demand.

[@tnaplastic2182]

Memcard Pro is technically capable of supporting the MX4SIO stuff and I personally have NO PROBLEM AT ALL, if they do! *I would even help them for free!*

[@vocemais721]

So… I have a small problem. I have a SCPH-7500 with a Disc Reader that doesn’t work. I have bought a OPL MC and a MX4SIO to use it, while it worked on the first few games it stopped worked when I deleted a .ZSO file from the OPL since then it doesn’t load a single game anymore, it starts to read the file and then the access light stops. Does anyone have a ideia on how to make it work again? I already tried to reformat the SD Card (64gb and Exfat) but didn’t had any luck.

[@Azaelx13]

So I bought the Bitfunx MX4SIO, I tried different SD cards and I cannot get my games to show up. I tried on 2 different consoles, both fat and 75xx slim models of PS2.

[@Azaelx13]

Forgot to say, I used different versions of OPL including the latest beta.

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Not sure if that is a fault of the bitfunx MX4SIO or something else. Is the microsd format with 16k clusters and fat32? Then install one game and see if OPL 1.1.0 detects anything or latest beta too.

[@Azaelx13]

@@ProjectPhoenixMedia yes, it is formatted with 16k clusters and fat32. I tried installing just 1 game which is Tekken Tag Tournament. I probably got a faulty bitfunx MX4SIO. I'm gonna try to use OPL 1.1.0 as you recommended. Thanks

[@homerthompson416]

That's so cool since you can just have split isos instead of needing WinHIIP like with the internal SD card mod.

[@That_Handle]

When mentioning internal SD card mod, are you referring to the IDE to SD card adaptation that plays through the attached network adapter?

[@homerthompson416]

@@That_Handle Yeah, though you can also do the mod on some Slims with a modchip and soldering an SD connector on.

[@lilmisssandi]

mine turned up today will set up tomorrow,have fat with 500g hd ethernet opl installed on hd boots from hd updated all the time so will see whats this like with that setup

[@cbk12]

What is the difference between this and the mc2sio being offered 🤔 im confused

[@TheOriginalVersatile]

Same thing but different name, maybe slightly different design in how everything goes together. End result is still same though

[@johnscott5226]

Does anyone know of a way to use codebreaker with ps2 sd card games on mx4sio?

[@jackskelington4554]

Have you experienced any fmv skipping in any of the games you tested? I've seen videos of jittery fmv's for the kingdom hearts ( I believe) but they never said what ps2 model they're using. I was thinking maybe the pre deckard models have issues with fmv playback because in your videos the fmv's are smooth

[@That_Handle]

Some scope of compatibility is in the spreadsheet in the description

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Interesting point, I happened to have a deckard model which has slightly better speeds at this point in time, maybe earlier models can improve with driver updates over time.

[@MichaelM28]

@@ProjectPhoenixMedia what's a deckard model?

[@MichaelM28]

Kingdom Hearts skips on my 50000 PS2 through SMB so I don't have much hope for the MX4SIO

[@That_Handle]

@@ProjectPhoenixMedia and OP, What is/are the major delineations you see need to be considered when testing regarding [deckard] , etc. ? At the moment, faced with 39001s, a 75001 and a 75002 here.

[@imneverbackingdown]

Does anyone know why I need to reinsert the micro sd card everytime I want OPL to detect my games? If I restart the system, they don't show up unless I pull out, then reinsert the micro sd card. I have it set to auto and mx4iso on as well.

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Maybe quirk of the opl beta

[@toshiroch.2680]

Hi off topic i just want to ask is there a way to turn off the analog button in a ps2 controller on pc because my controller witch i just bought without any console and i bought a usb port for it and the D-pad is acting the same way as the analog stick.. if u can or cannot answer this question thank you still.

[@TheOriginalVersatile]

Don't think it can be turned off but don't quote me on that

[@JaeliusFairmout]

I've done a lot of mods to my PS2's over the years, my wildest dream would still be for a true optical drive emulator and a HDMI mod; much like we can already do with the PS1. Sad that the launch model PS3 are just so damn unreliable otherwise they would be my go to way to play Klonoa 2.

[@TheOriginalVersatile]

Ode would be awesome for sure. I've heard a HDMI mod like the ps1 will happen, but release window was delayed due to whole chip shortage going on right now

[@That_Handle]

@@TheOriginalVersatile ,. I understand that the focus shifted to HDMI for PS1 away from PS2, initially, but are you saying that the same team was close to bringing one to the PS2 prior to the chip shortage?

[@TheOriginalVersatile]

@@That_Handle I don't think they got far with the project yet as they are finishing up their own retrotink upscaler competitor product... But they did say they will visit retro consoles in the future like the PS2

[@tnaplastic2182]

The HDMI mod will be "PS2Digital" and the "true ODE" is possible on 75k+-models without adding something to the laser flex cable!

[@zmiennik4025]

My mx4sio is working well. I jest put games over 700mb to DVD folder. However there are a couple of gsmes that dont show up in the game list, but they are present on the memory card. How do I make them visible? And what is the Bin folder for?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

I'm not familiar with the BIN folder. Is it possible the other games that don't show up are not installed correctly maybe?

[@floppytwist]

Any idea why the bdm3 beta wouldn't launch (blsckscreen only) on a 70004 with a legit default opl settings folder existing created by opl 1.1.0?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Is it possible the bdm3 doesn't work on all models of ps2? Try a non bdm3 beta see if different results.

[@radjaputra]

Saving after MX4SIO is on freezes console Memory card can't be detected when playing from MX4SIO Trying to save when MX4SIO is on not only freezes console but wipes out entire OPL configuration except internet settings Only manual configuration for MX4SIO with integrated in wLE text editor works.

[@ambet2760]

can you test Urban Reign will work on this device?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

See the mx4sio opl compatibility list

[@MouseCIick]

i played black and it doesnt work anymore. it just goes to a white screen when i tried to load it. other games i saved on the sd work. did i mess up the settings? need some help.

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

If the mx4sio is fragmented I could see this. Format the microsd and re-add your game and continue playing

[@MouseCIick]

@@ProjectPhoenixMedia ill try that. tysm!

[@afiffurqon7489]

hello, I'm a PlayStation 2 console lover from Indonesia, I've been following all the tutorials from psx place to make mx4sio, I made my own mx4sio at home from an unused memory card following the instructions from psx place, but what I did didn't work the games didn't show up for me I have tried with the opl version v1.1.0, I tried to download the v.1.1.0 beta version bdm3 but this version does not support bdm mode, only usb mode, or is there a special sd card that is compatible with mx4sio or is there an opl version that supports bdm3.. for fmcb version i have installed version 1,966 .. I hope you can answer my problem, thank you

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

The real question is your adapter working in the first place. I had issues where I had weak solder joints, or I damaged my sd card so once I redone everything and make sure no bridges, then my games were detected.

[@osiris231000]

Hi, does OPL V1.1.0 works for you? i tried to launch games with that version but opl just stays in the "Loading config" screen, it never boots, but with the BDM3 beta it works fine Also in the compatibility spreadsheet says that Shadow of the colosuss works fine but for me it doesn't, i just get a black screen, i have tried diferent sd cards that work with other games like god of war 1-2 but i can't manage to boot SoftC any tips? Thx for the video :)

[@osiris231000]

Update: I watch your other video were you say to enable PADEMU, it did the trick for Shadow of the colosuss ty man

[@tnaplastic2182]

@@osiris231000 The lovely "PADEMU-Fix"... I found it. :-P :-D

[@fabimawn]

I've got a 5xxx PS2, plugged the MC2SIO in for the first time today, nothing happened, tried 1.2.0 beta OPL, 1.1.0 and the beta of that one, also 1635 , 1627 and 1629 (those 3 made the SD2SIO card flash it's LED but no games loaded), ran all the OPL's from USB or without USB inserted from official magic gate card, but the games never show up. Tried it with a Samsung and Sandisc micro SD both 256GB and formatted to FAT32 with a cluster size of 16. Also tried creating custom partition with only 16GB FAT32, also didn't work. Anybody any ideas?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

This is a weird one, are we sure the card is functional in the first place? Where did you get it from? At a minimum, we should see the mx4sio games show in OPL and it sounds like you never got it to show in any OPL version that supports mx4sio

[@fabimawn]

​@@ProjectPhoenixMedia Thanks for the response. I got it from Helders site. So you think the Samsung SD should work? I indeed never got any games to show up. The light blinks in some OPL versions but that's about how far it gets (also tried it in both card slots, and of course FreeMCboot loads from one of the slots, so that can't be the problem either). Not sure if I should order a PNY SD card (those should 100% work according to the community, but Samsung should also which is weird). Maybe contacting Helder might be my best choice here then. There is one oddity I noticed however. So I know I got it from the original site, but on the bottom of the card there is no Helder logo, however all of the review video's have a card where there is a logo there. Maybe a revision? I got a Helder sticker with it though. Maybe you know if it is a fake when the logo is not there? Might there be a way to test the card? I've got a multi meter, maybe I can check some of the connections? Also, I forgot to mention one thing, I have a European PS2, maybe a difference there?

[@dabman9688]

Im having a problem with fragmented games even after defrag and re copy.....im kinda at a loss here on what the next move should be

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

One tip is format the microsd and copy all games files at once from pc to the microsd. Also use 16k clusters when formatting as fat32. It may or may not help, give it a shot.

[@darknesskillerentertainmen9002]

How come it won't detect memory card slot 1 when trying to save a game

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Use opl 1.1.0 beta 1629 if compatible with your system for saving files.

[@JimWilington]

Is it compatible with SD cards brand?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Give it a try, there are many brands that work or don't work. Format as fat32 with 16k clusters should help compatibility too

[@エルデンリング-隻狼]

Can we use popstarter on mx4sio?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

No, not at this time.

[@muratrisvan]

Thanx Master ♥️

[@cubeflinger]

COD 3 VMC doesnt work for me, is green in your sheet.

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Thanks for leaving the spreadsheet comment. I can't validate every game on the list, so not sure why it would work for someone else but not yours (unless its other variables not documented)

[@ROX99]

Can the mx4sio run ps1 games?

[@ProjectPhoenixMedia]

Not at this time, strictly for ps2 games

[@MichaelM28]

Much better off using a mini router with a USB. It offers better game compatibility and you don't have to split 4GB or larger games into multiple files.

[@That_Handle]

(taking notes) 👍

[@tnaplastic2182]

Online doesn't work with the Travel-Router-Method I explained/introduced to the people... Narcissistic TnA strikes today! *zany face* Haha! On another note: LAN has another advantage over anything else. Compressing images (in their original state) as well as almost unlimited space to store the images in! Everything else (internal HDD, USB, MX4SIO, FireWire) is limited to 2TB! LAN is the ONLY way, which can serve 15000 games AFAIK!