My 3" drone is better than your 5" FPV freestyle quad...prove me wrong!! // Bacon's B3AST 3" Build

The B3AST has been unleashed, and I am willing to bet that this little 3" freestyle FPV drone rips harder than most 5" freestyle builds out there! This micro sized quad is packing full 6S power on large 2004 sized motors with a full high output DJI digital system, 4K recording, a 55A ESC, and all the range you could ask for out of an ELRS link. Good things do come in small packages, and this is one of them! Go down to the comments below and prove me wrong if you can after viewing the footage.
NOTE: Footage was shot using default Betaflight PID tune and almost no motion blur to show as much imperfection as possible.
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The build for this video:
Quadmula Siren F3 Split
Emax Eco II 2004 3000kv Motors
Skystars F722 HD Pro flight controller
Skystars KM55A 55 amp BLheli32 ESC
Runcam Link DJI VTX and Wasp camera
GNB 550mah 6S
HQ 3.1x3x4 props
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Radiomaster AG01 Gimbals
Thumb Grippies Pinch Sticks
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Happymodel 2.4G ELRS Pro Module
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[@0j0m.......]

Bacon, you're so sick dude. I love your content. You've helped me so much with trouble shooting. Thank you

[@deice3]

Going fast with a 5 inch just gives such exquisite screams, hard to give that up. But I've been eyeing an smaller O3 freestyle build too, nice to see your take on it!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, yeah I do love the sounds on a 5" that is true!!! I think this thing with an O3 in it is going to be a real sweet spot for size and capability. This could really be the future of FPV quads once the 250g limits start to matter more.

[@solojoe1193]

Loved the video as usual and definitely going with the 3” for my next build

[@Mr.Mantastic263]

This is the exact type of quad I've been thinking about trying to build, just haven't seen the right frame, thanks for the point in the right direction and motivation.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

You are very welcome!!! I am going to do a further review on the frame and show off what I have for resonance graphs. I can say that it is very very very clean for it's size!

[@adrianeggenberger6340]

I have 3x Apex 4 inch and 1 AOS 3.5 inch I love the ImpulseRC Apex 4inch with Gemfan 4023 Props stock BF it's really good Try it out 😀 Regards from swiss

[@paulrogers8365]

Nice build and I agree that size does not matter...for drones. I have a similar 3.5in drone I built with a Roma 35 frame. It flies awesome and very similar to my 5in freestyle builds... Just wish they would make more varieties of 3.5in props!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol...yes, for drones! I agree with you on the 3.5" varieties. Hopefully I can talk QM into making arms that can fit 3.5" props and I really want some options for it when that finally happens.

[@Derickandlannyfpv]

WOW you rip insanely hard.. what a unique and sick style sir.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you! It isn't for everyone, but it sure is fun, lol.

[@FlyHMD_]

Bacon, bacon, and more bacon! Fantastic flight and vid! I’ve got a 2.5” with 1804 3500Kv and it one of my favorites to fly. Absolutely rips and can place it in the tiniest gaps. Only downside is no action cam on y 2.5”…might have to throw on a ThumbPro and see how it works out. I’m gonna build a 3.5 now with some spare 2004’s I’ve got. Keep those vids coming BaconNinja! Always look forward to your extra greasy rips!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Those are some big ol' motors for a 2.5", I really like it! I think a Thumb Pro on something like that would be a perfect combo...until we get naked O3's and we can cram one of those in something like that, lol. I really appreciate you my friend!!!

[@Raven-FPV]

Smooth and super snappy. Luv it

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you! Its an awesome little quad to rip around with!

[@dynamicfpv]

Nice Man, I fly a 3" on 3S and I love it. It flies great. Great to see more smaller drone freestyling.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I think we are going to see much more of it before the end of the year. With all of the RID stuff coming, sub 250 freestyle in any form is going to have a bigger hold on FPV than it has in the past for sure.

[@dynamicfpv]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Agreed. Fortunately I'm right under 250!

[@YotaGuy_Kyle]

Nice build. Performance here is undeniable. Nice Vid

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you!! It is a sweet little ride for sure!

[@erlandfpv]

Every single inch of quad its good, 😃🙏

[@LordFpv]

6s 3'' quad???WoW...that fly amazing...👌👌👌👌

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I like the powwwwwaaaaaa! lol...and it does fly sooooo well.

[@baggszilla]

That's kool man! Pretty soon we all will be ripping 3" for the weight limit.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Yeah, I see that coming for sure!! I think builds like this...but maybe a little lighter, will be a standard set up 18 months from now.

[@richardlee2740]

Great flying! Intresting yaw spin angles while in reverse transitions? Pretty cool👍5" carries more inertia obviously but similar to the 3.5 " feel. Definately different altogether in the 2.5" class and under from my experience.

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful build, dude! Fantastic flying and footage! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you bro!! I figured...why not build something stupid and have fun with it! lol

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

After all the years I started flying I learned that the drone gods don't want me to have a 5-in drone and keep putting in the river or lost in a tree so I stuck to the Roma f-35 on 6s talk about beefy motors the 2203.5 are a beast. After flying the Roma for the past year I learned to love it at least when you crash the parts are cheaper batteries are not as heavy.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, sometimes it just isnt meant to be. I have yet to lose one completely....but I am sure it is coming for me some day. 2203.5 on a 3.5", that is pretty beastly!

[@chrisdomeier4985]

I can recommend the gemfan 3052 Props for this Setup. Love it! The 4 bladed props i also noticed that they are very fragile.

[@SilverFox80521]

Nice rippin!! I like your style.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you!! It was lots of fun ripping this little thing around!

[@brundle_fly5123]

I run a 3" armattan tadpole on 3s. While not quite 5" feels, it lends itself to a unique freestyle experience. Plus it is WAY cheaper to fix! The grease is the way.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Those little tadpoles are great!! Also, yeah way cheaper to fix and operate than the big bois for sure. Grease it up!!

[@MichaelRogersJesusrules]

way responsive little speedster imo . i love it .and you always seem to pick the best music. chat soon.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

It is a heck of a little ripper!!! ...I always spend wayyyyy too much time picking the background tracks, lol. Usually it takes me longer to find the music than it does to put the edit together.

[@burdfamfpv]

I've got this setup on the 4 inch sector frame same motors love it🤙

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

That sounds like a fun little ripper!

[@waspfpv9074]

5:46 it looks unreal , this is so clean and powerfull 😵

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

it was pretty impressive to fly! I was expecting it to be good...but it absolutely exceeded those expectations when I got it in the air.

[@ChrisQuadFPV]

3min Flight time , you must be full throttle the whole time 😲 Beautiful 3inch quad😎

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I have a lead thumb...lol. I get just under 3 mins on my 5" freestyle rigs with 1300mah 6S packs too. My flight style just makes my batteries hate me.

[@dywlfpv]

My life isn’t complete 🙈😍🔥. My dream drone to be honest! I’ve had an idea very similar since I’ve started flying 🤯

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

It is hands down one of my favorites in the fleet. If I could only ever keep one drone...this may be the one I would pick.

[@dywlfpv]

@@BaconNinjaFPV I can only imagine 😍. So far it’s my dream drone 🙏🔥

[@kardady]

Nice, I’m still using 5 inch. Thanks man 👊

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I still love my 5" quads too, and they outnumber the 3" quite a bit, lol. Nice to have a little small format ripper for those impromptu session though!

[@dan71559]

Oh yea. I took a Diatone Roma F4. Installed xing 2306 motors, Diatone Mamba f7 6s with the 55a ESC and it totally rips like a 5 inch. Flings great and flys like it's on rails. I fly everything I build on 6s even my 85mm whoops. Excellent build and video. Here's to ultra powerful so called micros!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

6S on everryyyythiiiiinnngggg!!!!!!! I like my tiny quads a little on the chunky side because I do like the bit of fling they get out of it. I am building another one on a lighter frame with much less weight and I see it flying much more like a light toothpick.

[@dan71559]

@@BaconNinjaFPV what up Bacon 🥓 I had taken a Geprc rocket lite frame and installed a Speedybee f7 35a 6s AIO and Brother Hobby 1404 2750 kv motors with of course the Caddx Nebula which flew great but kinda cineboring if you know what I mean so this morning (after watching your excellent build, rips and vid last night) I cut off the hoops, threw them as far as I could, took the two inch tri blade props off and replaced with four blade 2.5 inch HQ and unleashed the potential in this quad! I went from hoopty stupid to freakstyle rippin excellence! Thanks for the inspiration. Why aren't more BNF companies doing this?

[@RebelGoatFPV]

If you wouldn't have said it was a 3" I would have thought it was a 5" watching your flight. I have a couple of 4s 3" builds at around 250g that are noticeably different than my 5". Seems it's more about weight, power and disk load. Looks like you hit the sweet spot with that build. 🔥🔥

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, I thought about making people guess....but then I decided to just give it up. I think this one has a lot to do with the weight for sure. Just enough to fling a bit, but not too much to make stable flight difficult. I think it will get even better with the O3 in it!

[@RebelGoatFPV]

@@BaconNinjaFPV That'd be sublime with the 03 in it!

[@sixtofive]

That's pretty impressive performance! Given the specs of the electronics you mentioned, if the frame has room, you could probably handle 3.5" props without blowing things up. Fun stuff!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I reallllllly want to talk Quadmula into making some arms long enough to swing 3.5" props for this frame. I think it would be a near perfect set up on a slightly larger prop with the O3 unit in it!

[@danimalfpv7261]

​​​@@BaconNinjaFPVI'm bout to build out the aos 3.5v2 and looking to use a similar stack and motor combo. The geprc smart35 flies great but the arms being a part of the bottom plate is a pita. Plus I just wanna go faster! *or I'll get a diatone f35 and transfer the smart 35 components to the aos. Idk

[@xshoudenx]

@@BaconNinjaFPV This is your fanbase from the future, Ive got a Quadmula SF3.5 Split on my bench right now. Your desire has been met.

[@heartpilotOB]

Great flight as usual. Been flying 3” as well, micros have a tendency to bobble. My sweet spot is my Gecko 4”.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

yeah stability can really be impacted by such small props with the kind of disk loading a typical freestyle build has when you get on small props. The Gecko is a great little rig!

[@bradn1559]

Binging Bacon Ninja! I’m HOOKED

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

oh man, I can see your mental health insurance coverage is about to take a biiiiiig hit :p I am sorry in advance!

[@slaughtercarterfpv1336]

Pretty sweet little drone

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

It sure is! I am pretty happy with it :)

[@jamesmason7124]

Wow that rip sizzles

[@Loki_FPV666]

I would love to see a build video. I've been wanting to build a 3" freestyle drone.

[@MFD005]

I want one. It looks like it rips 🤘

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

oh man, it for sure does!!

[@clifffield1]

Thanks for your continuing cool content. Appreciate the efforts you go to, in order to keep us all entertained. Cheers!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

You are very welcome!! It is always my pleasure to make this content, and I appreciate you very much for checking it out.

[@brianfreland9065]

This is rad fpr a 3 inch. Im flying my nazgul evoque f5 v2 a lot lately because im bored of my whoops and im finding that the nazgul is too big for around my house propert and ive been wanting to build a 3inch ripper to scale it down just a notch or 2 and this looks perfect for whay im wanting!

[@stevefpv4669]

This is very interesting, I also like the idea of thinking outside of the box and experimenting. I have spare parts, always wondered if, i know obviously not recommended but curious about it, I have a similar 3 inch frame, with a hglrc zeus 6s stack and xing 2207 1800kv and similar size kv aeolus motors, motor holes would fit, i know kv is low for 3 inch props, but is there remotely any way to make that work and somehow tune it to fly somewhat decently you think?

[@joelhaileighwoudstra1273]

Love to see this, currently planning a 3" build and I'm waiting for the Quadmula frame to come back in stock! Don't have any experience building completely from scratch but I've fixed enough BNF's I can do it now, but how do you go about choosing the motors? Did you take into account the thrust ratio at all or do you not consider it?

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

I have a bqe 3af on 180? 3000kv running 4s and that's my go to freestyle rig. Don't have the power my 5" has but it don't really need it. And super durable

[@RoastPorkandGreens]

I did this 8 yrs ago with the original japalura and I powered it with an 800 4s. Way before 6s was a thing and that thing I could put up against any 5inch of the time.

[@zefixx6659]

Not a single second you got the horizon level. I am out on that. But yes i get your point ;-)

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, yeah I for sure enjoy flying sideways and at an angle more than level...you got me there!

[@dominicpsn]

Quad version of dropping a V8 into a Miata. Wish we could of heard it ripping, those 4blades spinning that fast so close to each other must sound like a banshee. Nice fucking build.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, now I want an LS1 swapped Miata!!!!! It sounds like a ticked off whistle and a whole lot more quiet than I thought it would be.

[@jefffpv2759]

I have an apex 3 inch. 1606 motors. Weights 340g with battery. I can chuck it pretty far though. Motors give a good flight time on a 4s 850mah

[@BallPingFpv]

Good morning awesome build I have been waiting for this video I have 2 3 inch heavy weight quads that I love to fly they are 301 grames all up with a 5s pack one has 1507 and the other one has 1408 motor both are 2800kv!! I don't think your wrong!

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you man! It is a super fun build to rip around with, even if it is kinda chonky, lol.

[@BallPingFpv]

@@BaconNinjaFPV i think heavy quads have their place as well!! Take care happy holidays to you and yours!!

[@fpvnycdream_4197]

That’s a great 3” ripper !! 🔥 I can imagine that same set up on a 3.5 or 4” frame. Would be insane 😮 Great content. Keep ‘‘em coming

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I am realllllly hoping I can talk QM into cutting some arms that will let me sling 3.5" props on this frame and try it out!!! I think that would be a darn near perfect set up with an O3 in this.

[@davidfinn2649]

wow nice flying, that build is crazy . Not sure I'm ready for 6s on mine more likely going 4s.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Thank you!! I went a little overboard with it, lol...you are probably safer going with a more traditional 4S setup on your giveaway one.

[@xshoudenx]

Build 6s then fly 4s, then you have choice to flip back and forth

[@3eggerfpv397]

It's so good there's no link to see it/buy it! Although, I will admit I may be overlooking that link?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Nope you didn't over look it, it just really isn't there. I decided to leave things out on this one as I was still settling on the full parts list, but I do have the full parts list in my very recent update video on it and also on my website :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZvJc5ljZbZlgtU As for buying it pre-built, unfortunately there isn't anywhere to do that but you may be able to get a parts list to someone who could totally do that for you if that is the route you want to take with it!

[@kamaleaFPV]

Totally agree!! I allways fly drones lower than 3.5" drones being the weirdo in my group

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

hey, sometimes you just gotta have some small pocket rippers! You would by no means be a weirdo in my group....if I had a group, lol.

[@kamaleaFPV]

@@BaconNinjaFPV 😂😂

[@xORLOCKx]

My skylite35 flies like a 5 inch. Has the weight to for hangtime. Most slept on quad ever. 4s and 6s

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I think we are going to see a big change in the way people look at quads like this and your skylite as the date for remote ID gets closer. Sub 250 5" is cool, but sub 250 on a quad like this can give you almost the same experience without the potential for breakage due to cutting weight. The O3 unit is tailor made for this kind of thing!

[@Dorff_Meister]

Looks great to me. I have a little Crux35 with Vista that is a fun little ripper, esp. for my beginner skills. It gets much better flight times than my Mob8 with O3 :)

[@DK-TechCorner]

I've cut the frame on my Mob8 to make room for 720mAh GNB, much better flight time 👍

[@Dorff_Meister]

@@DK-TechCornerYeah I love the 720! I used the mod named "Happymodel Mobula 8 Battery holder mod" on Thingiverse. Good flight times, but nothing like the GNB 850mah 120C on my Crux35 - I've gotten 14 minutes.

[@Itsdarts]

Great looking quad, if that was a bind and fly, I’d buy it. But I feel that you won’t get the throw if you go with the o3 and no extra camera. Try flying that without the added weight of the run cam orange using the vista and let us know. Now I want to see if 2004’s can fit my AOS 3.5 v2 frame.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Yeah I think that I will lose a little throw for sure. I may go down to tri blade props when I do that so that I can lower the resistance through the air in low throttle situations and retain a bit of it. We shall see how it goes though! I think on a 3.5" quad, 2004 would be even more fun!

[@orozcocris93]

As someone who has not even built my first quad, I'm very excited for small but good. Do you have an update in a build like this for 2024? Maybe even under 250g? The new stingerbee from newberdrone is one I ordered but I wonder if you can beat it

[@BobBobsta]

whats the weight on this build ? otherwhise mega nice build

[@rockfordian23]

I built a 2s 3 inch and it's perfect for front yard flying. The neighbors don't mind I compared to the 7 inch lol.

[@rcaddict9558]

My diatone f35 with Nazgul 3040 blades i have to dial down the motor output to 92 % to get the 4200kv to approx 3850 and it is ridiculously quick, and so so stable, love it! Gnb hv 1100 130c?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

yeah, I thought about going higher kv with an output limit like I usually do with my micro quads...but since the 2004 came in 3000kv I just went that way and let it run at 100%. I could imagine that thing is super fast though!! I also thought about HV, but with 6S I get a little worried that the board rating will get exceeded or it will be operating right at the very edge and want to die when I inevitably crash this thing, lol. It would help for a weight reduction though!

[@tacho2009]

I missed the total weight of that build, cant be sub 250 or is it? Can it be with Vista? Analog for Sure?

[@djdubz]

great video! are the props in view of the fpv camera? or is it just the camera standoffs are out of view?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

they sure are in view of the FPV cam. The standoffs are out of the way except for maybe the smallest bit at the top on some cam angles, but I do run my standoffs upside down to protect the cam more and I could probably get 100% of the standoff out of view if I ran them the correct way up, lol.

[@djdubz]

@@BaconNinjaFPV thanks for the info. I have an AOS 3.5 w/o3 and love it for a lot of the same reasons you do the f3.

[@73FPV]

Come back Bacon. We miss you.

[@rcfly_ch]

Hi, what do you have on the 3" for PID's. It goes extremely directly. extremely nice. I have the Quadmula F3 and am still looking for the settings.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I am working on wrapping up the PID tune for this particular build and posting it on my website :) Still had a couple of wrinkles to iron out to get as much prop wash out of it as possible, but I should have everything nailed down on it in the next couple of weeks.

[@rcfly_ch]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Perfect, thank you and greetings from Switzerland :)

[@mx118racer]

What kV did u run ? I've been flying micro apex 3" and 4" and the 3" tadpole . Most my 5" been hanging on the wall for last year or so . Only time I grab a 5" is if need to carry full gopro . Now o3 is here 3-4" is where it at

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I am running 3000kv for this one since I didn't want to have to go with a motor output limit and lose efficiency for being over KV on the low end. I really do think the O3 opens up new possibilities for these small quads to compete with bigger daily drivers for sure!

[@gandaulf_fpv6925]

It may just be me but it looks like you can do sharper movements with this smaller quad.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

you absolutely can! It doesn't drift as much as a 5" since it just doesn't have the weight to slide, but you get enough of that feeling to make the experience of flying it very similar for sure.

[@dadpoolfpv]

That's pretty sick, Ninja. What is the weight? I literally was just thinking about building a 3" freestyle rig using my runcamlink/wasp. I've got a Nazgul5 at the moment but, I want something smaller. Nice video by the way! Keep sending! Never mind I didn't finish the video. 300grams it is. Thanks!

[@charlesminney8481]

Getting ready to do me a 3 gonna use a mamba frame and the f 722 55 amp sky stars mini stack will be analog video. 2004 3000kv motors. This thing has to sound awesome running 6s got some 1200 speedy pizza to light them up. Any pointers it's speedymee on your discord. Thanks for being so greasy !

[@sheapyfpv8224]

Holy shit that's insane think I've got whiplash watching that rip 😮💪

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

lol, sending small quads is a ton of fun!!

[@Sensej_FPV]

Jaka waga samego quadcopter? Bez pomaranczowej kamery i pakietu. Przymeirzam sie do 3 cali zeby moc latac w niedostpenych miejscach dla 5'

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Dla 3 cali, bez pomarańczy to około 250 gramów. Z baterią wzrasta o 100 gramów. Właśnie przerzuciłem się na nową jednostkę O3 iar i teraz całość waży 340 gramów z baterią. Mnóstwo mocy do zabawy w małych miejscach!

[@Atlas_FPV]

Yup, I have a 3.5” on 1804 3500kv motors at 270g and it feels like my 5” to fly, 3” on the same drone at 250g also feels like a 5”. You aren’t missing out if you only fly one of these tbh.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

This size is a great place to be for freestyle in the smaller prop category for sure! I usually am flying a toothpick when I run 3", but I think I am sold on just keeping this thing handy for small spot spontaneous ripping.

[@christopherconkright1317]

I emailed your business email with this question but want to ask here in case some one can answer me. I have a speedy be 35a esc I want to use it on a three inch build is that too small i was told not to make a 3in 6s drone with it . I thought it would be at the high end of what the drone puts out. I am guessing around 35amps but not to small....

[@hxc0de]

Just built this w/ a flyfish volador vx3 instead. AUW 285g. I'm getting shit flight times... 1.5-2min and barely pushing it... like a few flips and cruising. Motors are cool. Any help would be super appreciated, really not enjoying having to baby this thing to get a somewhat okay amount of flight time.

[@gonzafpv2843]

This exact same build with o3 and no other camera on it? What You think? To much shaker for the o3?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I did exactly that with mine and just released an update video on it actually :) The O3 is just about perfect for this kind of build!

[@aghasardjanto4752]

Hi may i know what is % of throttle to hover? Thanks

[@LowetheTechGuy]

Nice, I just want to try it with 3.5" or 4". There is a new frame on Banggood called the Teosaw Explorer 3. It has the rear arms and top deck and the front arms and bottom deck as 1 piece for each. Motors mount upside down in the rear but it looks pretty cool and may can handle 3.5" props.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I haven't heard of that one, but you never know until you build one!! If you wind up doing it, let me know what you think :)

[@chrisbee5481]

The Amax F4mini is an awesome frame. Also their 2005 motors. I built with these using 2200kv on 6S with emax 4024 props.

[@PropellerPixMN]

Bacon Ninja- I built this same exact build...it rips very VERY hard even on 6s 1200mAh. Question: Every time I hit a small branch or touch the grass one or two of the esc's shuts off. I power cycle it and it works perfectly again. Very annoying when freestyling as we occasionally hit small branches/twigs or hit grass and try to recover. When one of two of your motors shuts off during flight it's impossible to recover. None of my many other quads ever did this. Same km55 esc you put in yours. Did you run into this issue too?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I don't quite have that issue with mine, but it sounds like maybe yours is kicking into protection mode due to a prop stoppage. what PWM frequency are you running on yours?

[@PropellerPixMN]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Just the stock 24kHz you?

[@rogerchristeson]

Do you think the runcam thumb pro would have produced similar or better video results on video quality after editing? Your quad flies great by the way

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Honestly, no not really. The Thumb Pro is a great little camera, but it is just way more limited than it's bigger brother. I really don't mind the footage out of the Thumb Pro, but it crops in a bit too much and it always looks like the effective pixel density is lower for that sensor. I prefer the RC5O when I can get away with the weight of it for sure.

[@rogerchristeson]

@@BaconNinjaFPV thats good to know. I have one but haven't really used it yet. It's just going on a long range cruiser so im not that picky about it.

[@ninmarioscc]

Hey Im gonna build similar quad but I have some 850mha 4s that I wanna use no GoPro just 03 you think it'll rip same as your 6s build ? Or should I just go full 6s. I'm even thinking of building 6s out of my 4s batteries

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

So, if you get the correct KV of motor then technically it should be able to handle it. The only down side is that you will feel the sag earlier. With this one I start feeling the sag on the last 20% or so and then it drops off really steep, but that is exactly what 6S is good at. I do think it would rip plenty hard on the right KV and 4S though!

[@Quinshi92]

Its a stock pid from betaflight or You have Your own?

[@fpvblacc]

On this build the GNB 550 mah battery has a tx30 connector but it looks like you soldered a tx60 on the drone, should I solder a tx30 to the esc or tx60?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I did put an XT60 on mine, but that is so I can run my larger 1300mah 6S packs as well (which it actually does pretty well and makes for insane flight times). If you don't plan on doing that though, an XT30 would be just fine and a little cleaner.

[@fpvblacc]

@@BaconNinjaFPV if I do plan on putting the TX60 how would I be able to use the 550 mag 6s with the TX30? I would like to switch back and forth between the big 6s and the small 6s packs .

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

@@fpvblacc I use some small converter cables from race day quads, but they appear to be out of stock www.racedayquads.com/products/xt60-male-to-xt60-female-adapter?keyword=xt60

[@fokusfpv]

Loving your videos @BaconNinja - I'm with you on this thought and execution track for smaller high performance freestyle builds. To this end, recently acquired a 3.5" AOS for O3 frame, and want to build a ripping free rig like yours here.. Do you have opinions on what motors to go with a similar build - you said 2004s on this one, so if you went up to a 3.5" would you do same or different? Keep it going @Greasy! :)

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

the AOS will be a great platform for a similar build! I think going up to a 3.5" would still have me running on the 2004 motors at the same 3000kv on 6S. I am running them on this one for the crazy torque since I like a ton of response, but they will still have more than enough on a heavy pitch 3.5" as well. I appreciate you checking this one out! :)

[@jordandesigns5797]

are you using an elrs rp1 or 2 antenna? or a built in spi elrs reciever

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I am using an RP1 in this build with the full size t antenna. It was kind of pain to route, lol. I have the receiver on top of the O3 unit in it currently with the UFL inside one of the top plate holes since there isn't enough height to put it in without. The antenna routes out the back and down to the bottom plate where I have it secured with some zip ties and a print.

[@jordandesigns5797]

I am going to be making this build as well same specs. Just waiting on the frame. I got a 150mm battery strap but that seems too small for the 6s. What size are you using? I really wish this frame came with longer arms though so I could slap on 3.5 inch props

[@Maxim_Nub]

It is actually helpful haha. I was thinking if I should get roma f35 hd on 6s or not, though mb its to heavy with run cam orange and 6s and seems like it actually can be as good haha roma f35 can be actually even a bit lighter

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Yeah this thing is not light at all and it can absolutely freestyle. I am running some pretty heavy pitch props though, so on the roma you may have to change them up a bit to find a nice medium. Should be fun if you decide to do it!

[@runpuppyfpv5744]

3000kv on 6s ? Did you use a motor output limit?

[@tonyslim4484]

I'd like to see a build when you swap to 03...how did you get the stack to fit?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I did swap it to the O3 and it is even more of a B3AST now! I am planning a video soon on it, but I will say that fitting the stack in with the O3 in the back was a gigantic pain, lol.

[@buttersfpv]

i think it matters when it comes to throwing the weight, like doing a rewind for example. it won't drop the same, just like if you compare trying to power loop a 3" 1s its so lightweight so you have to really be on that throttle to push it back. so i say it depends on your style and whats right for you.

[@thejosephlaws]

Newer to FPV. Currently I have a 5 inch drone (Source One V5). Been debating what to build as my second and this Quadmula F3 is on the list. Is there a benefit to building this kind of 3 inch over a 5 inch other than weight restrictions? Does it feel similar to a 5 inch when flying?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I think having a small little quad like this in your fleet is a great idea. It gives you the freedom to run smaller spots or places where you really don't want to upset people who may be within earshot of the quad. 5" is a great platform and gives you tons of power in the right configuration, but they are just larger and noisier than you want sometimes. As for flight feel, this particular 3" does feel more like a 5" in that its thrust to weight ratio is almost the same. That does however mean that this one is a little heavier than most 3" quads and just barely stays at 250g without the runcam orange on top. There is a small benefit to staying under 250g as well if you are in the US since after the September remote ID deadline you wouldn't have to run a module on it :)

[@thejosephlaws]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Thanks for replying so quickly. I appreciate the feedback, that's really helpful. Love your content by the way.

[@danny_cunningham]

I love this build but I like long flight times. I have a vannystyle build with Mr steele v5 motors and can around 6 min flights with a 1400 battery. Any 3in motor recommendations for longer flight times?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

yeah this one is not the kind of flight time, that is for sure! I will say though, this thing has enough umph with the big motors and stout frame to haul around a 1300mah 6S pack and get 12-15 minute flights if you wanted to :) As for different motors, getting the flight time up would likely require quite a bit of overhaul on this build to get the weight wayyyy down. I decided to keep it heavier and take the shorter flight time to better achieve the fling of a bigger quad rather than give up some durability and flight characteristics for a more efficient setup. I also get 3 minutes on my 5" builds with the way I fly them, so 3 minutes was kinda right in my zone of normal, lol.

[@danny_cunningham]

@@BaconNinjaFPV I Def don't fly as hard as you so I'm sure I'll get about 8 minutes with this set up. You say 10 minutes with a 1300mah battery with this set up? I'll have to try that. I'll just follow this build and see how I like it. Hopefully I'll win a frame from your give away or I'll just buy one

[@hxc0de]

Just built this w/ a flyfish volador vx3 instead. AUW 285g. I'm getting shit flight times... 1.5-2min and barely pushing it... like a few flips and cruising. Motors are cool. Any help would be super appreciated, really not enjoying having to baby this thing to get a somewhat okay amount of flight time. @@BaconNinjaFPV

[@ninmarioscc]

What other motors would you suggest if you are not carrying a GoPro and flying 6s

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

If I were to go down a size, I would really look at the TMotor P1604. I think that is a nice medium between these super large ones and the minimum size of a 1404. As for the KV, they have a lower option that will work with 6S as well as a higher one that would be great on 4S.

[@ninmarioscc]

@@BaconNinjaFPV thanks man. Yeah I want to go for those but they are all out everywhere

[@bobwyattfpv9847]

I think you live on Mars. I’ve been inspired to build an 03 3”. Using the Volador frame.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Sometimes I feel like I live on mars too :p This west Texas red dirt really does give the mars aesthetic.

[@bobwyattfpv9847]

@@BaconNinjaFPV it looks awesome! Wonder what FPV would be like on another planet or moon. Imagine the hang time 🌚✌🏻

[@cisnerosmike]

I believe the 03 unit belongs on 2"-4" kwads without using an action camera. This is my next build and the 03 unit will make 3"-4" kwads more popular.😄👍🏼

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I totally agree with you! It is the best use of the O3 capabilities for sure, and it will absolutely change the way we think about smaller quads in the future.

[@907fpv9]

You have a good tune for the f3 split?

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I have the tune for this one, but it would only really work if you were in the same weight range, motor size, motor kv, props, and pack voltage. If so, let me know!

[@hansrenkes8385]

I am almost done with my clone built with a couple of weight improvements (AIO FC, w/o 3D bumpers, O3 air unit) and using the same motors like you I'll get to a weight of 175gr. Still waiting for the Tattu 6S 550mAh that weights around 70 gr, I will stay below 250gr ready to fly weight. 125gr lighter than your built, since with the O3 I don't need any additional action cam. Not sure if I can handle this Ferrari and power to weight ratio... 🤣 The stats are pretty sick and wicked.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Great ways to cut weight on it! I put an O3 in mine as well since I really didn't like the orange riding on top, lol. I did keep my weight up a bit though just for the proper amount of fling. Didn't want it to feel too much like a toothpick for the flight style I had in mind on it, but that is really all just personal preference :) I am coming in at a little less weight now and switched to 3 blade props to give the fling back a little bit. That is going to be one heck of a quick little ripper you got!

[@hansrenkes8385]

@@BaconNinjaFPV do you think the 2004 motor 3000kv with 4S will have comparable flight characteristics like the Xing2 1404 3800kv, or would it be "unflyable"? Since I fly the quadmula also with 4S I am wondering if I have to change the motors when going to 6S and back to 4S? Thanks man

[@timmytson1]

Love my 3 inches

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

They are a heck of a bunch of fun!!!

[@pelerinc]

Um, yeah? Who's gonna tell him?

[@rcarindom]

No matter how much you try... A 5 inch flies like a 5 inch and a 3 inch flies like a 3 inch... Frankly speaking it's basic physics. 😊 Btw, if some ones wondering this is flying great, it is. But the throw and the hang time differs a lot.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

That is true! You can't beat physics, no matter how hard you try, lol. The goal of this one wasn't to get the exact fling, carry, or float down to what a 5" does, but more so to get the same feel in a smaller package scaled appropriately. It doesn't fling as far, but the scale of the fling is just about right for what a 5" would be if you shrunk it down without feeling like you are flying a toothpick. It makes small flying spots feel pretty darn good! :)

[@johnrosner8964]

I have a 3" and I have a 5" My 5" flies better than my 3" because of the weight it has more hangtime. With your style of flying I can see your point . The fact is with air mode on 5" flies way better than 3" with air mode on

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

It for sure has a lot to do with the disk loading and thrust to weight ratios. I think once I get this one tuned up and drop the RC5O for an O3 air unit, it will get just a little bit closer to where I want it to go. Always great to have a smaller quad in the arsenal for those small spots or spontaneous flights!

[@armenmkrtchyan4865]

here is a stupid question... how long will your 3 inch fly if you are not racing it. like hovering or going forward 2-5 mph. sorry if I'm asking this question in the wrong place. but I wanna build a small drone that get a long flight time without maneuvering. just hovering forward. thank you

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I actually slapped a big whopping 1300mah 6S pack on this thing just for that! I did a cruise flight with it at far more than 5-10mph and it did a solid 10 minutes. It wasn't acrobatic, but it flew just fine and went for a super long time. With a smaller pack, you could probably get somewhere between 5 and 7 minutes at a slow cruise.

[@armenmkrtchyan4865]

@@BaconNinjaFPV thank you. .. that's cool that you actually tried it.

[@davidanderson6222]

But their way more fun to fly! Still love the 5 though. Put 6s on any size quad, IT COMES ALIVE lol

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

6S really does make this one shine. I have something similar in 4S and it just isn't quite the same.

[@chrisbee5481]

I really feel your thoughts and like your build specs. Personally, I've built and tried all seizes and props. The sub 250g Limit sucks. The ideal weight for a nice flying small quad with all the goodies is more like 300g AUW. Also to avoid Karens and negative attention you should use silent props. I like the HQ 85mmx6 props for silent rip'in. Otherwise 3.5~4 inch props are awesome. I use the fettec 2104 1950kv motors on 6S with these high pitched props

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

Yeah I do like mine a bit on the heavy side compared to how most of them are being geared for sub 250. How do you like those fettec motors?

[@chrisbee5481]

@@BaconNinjaFPV those 2104 motors are really light (17g) and have the 5mm mount. That is perfect for the props I like. T mount might be 1g lighter, but sucks changing props. For the fettec 2104 1950kv you need some high pitched gemfan 4052 props to get awesome thrust drawing ~50A current on 6S. Thats the punch I like. My Alternative 3.5" 6s build uses hglrc 2004 2600kv motors with emax 3630 props. Unfortunatly I dont like my quads loud. Loud props perform great, but you cant fly them without someone feeling disturbed nearby

[@heinzfpv4787]

definitly sped up , but great idea to use those motors

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

I figured someone would say it was sped up at some point! lol. Being 100% honest though, its not sped up at all :) I really do like these motors on this build too...maybe a little overkill, but that just makes them more fun!

[@Ze_Egg]

Hi, I'm looking to replace the motors of my 4s 3inch quad. Until now it had 1607 2800kv but I want to go with something faster. What would be the best choice ? 1507 3800kv or 2004 3800kv

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

what does the all up weight look like on your quad and what kind of props are you going to be running on it? When it comes to those two choices, since they are both 3800kv, the props will really be spinning at the same speed either way so they will both top out around the same place (with a little variation). What it really comes down to is the difference in stator size and height. There is only about a 3% difference in the stator size between the two, but the taller one will have more low end torque if you are running really high pitch or heavy props.

[@Ze_Egg]

@@BaconNinjaFPV Hi my quad weight arround 260g with lipo. There are 2 reasons I think 1507's are better 1. They have M5 mount instead of T-Mount 2. They stay inside the frame so when you crash they don't hit the ground frist. But I'm running the KINGKONG/LDA-RC 3050x3 propellers that weight 1.9g do you think a 1507 can handle that ? Thanks

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

@@Ze_Egg I think a 1507 should be just fine with that setup and those props. I also reallllly like a normal prop mount vs T mount when you can get away with it. That is the direction I would go with this one!

[@gogglesfpv7986]

welp...I need to build a water proof version now....my other quads are gona be really mad about this.

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

if your other quads aren't mad at you for something, then you are probably FPVing incorrectly! :p

[@gogglesfpv7986]

@@BaconNinjaFPV if my three inch is as water proof as my 5 inch it probably wont be too mad. here's my water proof test video with worry free fpv kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3yvlmyEns-los0

[@michaelwilson3946]

1804s on a 3.5. Flies just like my 5in. The biggest enemy is wind. I love my micros. I only fly them on my backyard though. A heavier quad, is less likely to break. Also, more likely to fall out that tree that came out of nowhere

[@BaconNinjaFPV]

wind is a factor for sure! Luckily this particular quad is so heavy that it really doesn't get pushed around very much...and yes it sure does fall from trees a whole lot easier than my light 3" builds, lol.

[@josdraulhinojosa3668]

Do you have a fly fish volador build?