My 73 Plymouth Scamp is Missing the VIN Numbers! Stolen? IT BLEW UP!! *DISASTER* $100 Giveaway!

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[@TylersNeighborhoodGarage]

The VIN on the door sticker appears to be for a 1973 plymouth Scamp. VH23G3B164210. That decodes as a 1973 Plymouth Scamp(V- Valiant H- High trim line 23- 2 door hardtop) with a 318, built at Dodge main (G-318 2bbl, 3-1973, B-Dodge main. it looks like the production date is either 10-72 or 1-73...couldn't make it out. If that's a C instead of a G in the VIn, it means it was originally a Slant Six. The number you found on the weatherstrip rail may only be the order number which was on the fender tag, which is missing. Those holes on the passenger inner fender are NOT where the fender tag went. That's where the vacuum pod and heater control valve went when that car had air conditioning, which somebody removed. The fender tag is on the left inner, just aft of the battery. There was also a tune up sticker there..."This vehicle conforms to 1973 model year etc etc" The engine also has casting dates and numbers on the sides of the block, as well as a partial VIN stamped into a pad on the passenger side just above the oil pan rail. The displacement is also stamped into the front face of the block just below the left cylinder head. The transmission also has a partial vin stamped into the case on a pad partway up the right side of the bellhousing. That's alarming that somebody removed the VIN plate from the dash, but what PROBABLY happened is they took out and sold the original uncut (radio) dash for $$ and installed another one to put that awesome gauge arrangement in. You can do some paint detective work to see if the driver's door paint is the same as the body. You can pull off the door panel and investigate. With enough digging you'll find original paint. If the driver door matches the body color then chances are that's your original VIN on the door sticker. I think you can get repo vin plates made WITH PROOF of ownership and VIN. I know they sell the transfer sticker that goes on the plate. Two things to always remember about buying vintage Mopars: 1: Unless the person spends a lot of time or money or both, they do lazy bullshit work like you see here. They have no imagination...they are always painted orange, yellow or green on a car this year which was never those colors. They were mostly tan, brown or green. They remove the AC because they are too lazy to get it going again and lack the understanding of how hard those components are to find now. Those of us that are around Mopars can see every single shortcut they took. 2: a good lesson to not EVER pay that kind of money for a Mopar unless it has a VIN TAG, a FENDER TAG, preferably a broadcast sheet and they all MATCH. My '68 Valiant is worth half of what you paid for that and has all of those. Not beating you down, but ALWAYS REMEMBER that.

[@caydenworley5002]

That’s honestly the reality of classic cars that have been modified, we fall in love with the looks, the smell, the feel but when you look into the history of the car it can be an utter lemon or a mechanical nightmare. As you pointed out, it’s rough ridding, it’s set up all wrong and has fallen prey to what I call “Amatuer modification” while it definitely looks cool and is improved, the ways it’s Been done are definitely not the right way. But what we love is your brutal honesty, if anything you’re letting people be more aware when purchasing a classic car that’s been mod.

[@dave3657]

Looks like a good candidate for a track or drag race car.

[@micahbush3877]

Good video. Love the mopar

[@blevins6584mopar]

I'm glad you did this video on her. Man I love these cars as a kid my dad bought a brand new 1970 Dodge dart swinger plum purple crazy white vinyl top and the white stripe with the Go wing straight off the showroom floor. Now I see she's moved on to a new home it was great while it lasted 🥰

[@alatwood3274]

That extra rod leading to the carb goes back to the transmission to automatically downshift it when you stomp on it. You have no heater hoses hooked up would be my guess as to why you have no heat. That set up is a super classic set up. Please never sell it. Work out the small issues. It will be worth it. If I had ten grand, I would be in your face in a New York minute !!

[@tony_25or6to4]

Probably leaking heater core. Happened in my Valiant. Froze my ass off in Chicago.

[@timbowhite3215]

Good Afternoon My Good Little Bro Randy Lee Shear Of Auto Auction Rebuilds & Mike Of Santa's Workshop

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Good morning!

[@timbowhite3215]

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[@timbowhite3215]

Again Thank You My Good Little Bro Randy Lee Shear Of Auto Auction Rebuilds

[@timbowhite3215]

Thank You Again My Good Little Bro Randy Lee Shear Of@@AutoAuctionRebuilds

[@GasGuzler]

Out of all the vehicles you’ve ever had on this channel, I think this one is my favorite. I’m not a mopar guy but I really do like this car. I agree for the price you paid and the damage that it had, maybe a little on the higher side but it’s still a really nice car, probably fast as hell if it topped out at 70 with half throttle lmao.

[@regisbonner7239]

No car is perfect stay with the dodge

[@br549rdr]

That low voltage wire going to the MSD box could have caused that hard starting on your first trip with Randy. Seemed like it would start up but then struggle restarting. Just a thought.

[@olikat8]

"Rosette" rivets drilled out on the dash. The data tag(s) aren't on the passenger side, they'd be where the MSD box is- only 2 screws hold it onto the inner fender. There is a "Hidden" VIN underneath by the front of the leaf spring mount. I know '67-'76 A-bodies really well

[@olikat8]

Passenger side leaf spring mount area

[@jargo7251]

This kinda looks like a teenager's project. The car has been in an accident or something, it was lazily put back together, some things didn't work so they were like "Oh heck with it" and left it alone.. oh well, it's gone now anyways. Waiting for the other classic project Randy, keep 'er goin!

[@jeffrogosz9995]

Door was changed, no biggie Numbers on rad support should match ones on quarter lip

[@Mel-oc6em]

Subscribed to Santa’s Workshop

[@auteurfiddler8706]

I have a similar problem. I got a guy's "parts car" and one of the parts he swapped was the dash. I got the cruddy dash he took off his good car. Not installed, just tossed in on the floor. But he didn't keep the right vin with the right car. So I have the wrong vin for the car. Not even the right year. The original is long gone according to the previous owner. It is not a Mopar, also... The DMV may give me an "assigned vin" if I ever get up the nerve to approach them.

[@Lotsaslots6747]

Just subscribed to Santa’s workshop.

[@ckane510]

Your backwards. It’s 12 volts at crank and 8 volts at run position. That was to keep the contacts from building up on one side.

[@fasteddy917]

I remember you saying that Santa's Workshop sent you a message saying that he was just down the road from you and he'd like to help. I joined up to watch him right after that having watched his channel. Another top quality channel with great content. Shame the Scamp didn't work out. Looks like the only thing that the builder did properly was get the colour combination right. Basket of tools and a shade tree does not make someone a car builder.

[@riccardofeleppa9287]

I hope everything works ago with a car so have a good day having a good night

[@sgttombailes3380]

Register and Use it as a "Farm Utility Vehicle Only".. That way you can drive it to town and back to pick up Bird Seed, Dog Food, any animal food etc.....It will work.

[@BeauAmoureux]

If ANYBODY could help you, it would be Mark from Graveyard Carz! Try to use your KZbin prestige to get Mark on FaceTime or something. That would make a great and informative video.

[@brendangeraghty8865]

The plug in the rad hose shows you the intelligence of the people who slapped that car together. Did you not look for the dash vin right away?

[@natekasinger2678]

Why no vin on dash looks new I gotta buy new dash for my truck but the vin is in door jam and on door

[@rgbigdog]

All I can say "Buyer beware"

[@mobrown3533]

After market gauges and i subscribed to Santas Workshop 🤙

[@perrywilliams1214]

After market gauges

[@jamiecorley1700]

It's the perfect Drag Car!. Don't have to worry about the VIN number. No taxes on the vehicle. No registration requirement.

[@seanfritz1355]

Chrysler ignition works door and ignition. And round key opens trunk and a lockable glove box.

[@sgttombailes3380]

I am one of Santa's workshop subscribers for months now..

[@charleshenshaw9099]

Now you know why Copart took the car to Virginia to sell it.

[@legomaniac601]

reach out to Mark Worman he is a mopar master he might be able to help with finding a VIN of some kind

[@rayphillips332]

Ha dont forget to take the cap plugs out of the radiator ha ha.

[@lessthanzero8522]

Just subscribed to Santas workshop.. You guys are great. We are all okies, so i hope to run into you guys one day at a car show or something. Keep up the good work!

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Thanks for the sub!

[@ricardoroeschgalvez3725]

Ok Randy you probably bought a junkyard special. They get a bunch of parts from a junkyard and assembled a car from those parts. No VIN numbers will ever match

[@rickallshouse8026]

Did you get kiss from owner went. Car. Ok

[@emilyRose-bo6jh]

I bought a 1999 Nissan Maxima from a "friend" of mine... brought it our family mechanic for repairs. He told me none of my vin numbers matched the car. He said the firewall vin was for a 1996 Nissan Maxima, the door vin was for a 98 Maxima and the vin plate was for a 1996 Nissan Altima. In my state, I did not need a title because the car was so old. This really weirded me out lol.

[@garyfillides5884]

Definitely use the aftermarket actual gauges. Wondering if you still have the '73 Regal? If you do I'm interested.

[@lovellmills7959]

73 Regal sold at auction few days ago

[@markcopland5738]

Wow Randy ,Virginia was my home state,anything they do with cars,they are hard core on vehicles,from safety inspection,you can't alter the car from factory,since this wasn't a Virginia car,Copart is completely responsible of the car,if the car is hot or parts are,they should know they are in deep you know what,if the state finds out,the state of Virginia could close the Danville lot and could get heavily fined for selling a hot car or an incomplete and unsafe car of Virginia standards,good luck.

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

I talked to VA and they said all was legal.

[@markcopland5738]

@@AutoAuctionRebuilds if its legal,see if you have Virginia fan allowing to use his address and register it their ,then keep it for a while then register it in Oklahoma,I saw the video you hating it so much but love it,trust me I was there many times.

[@tph318]

Make sure you reconnect the trans kick down cable/linkage before you drive it. You will ruin chrysler transmissions without it.

[@kstricl]

If the car VIN get's straightened out - carry on, make it right. If you lose the car, get that other scamp - if the body is salvageable (i.e. just surface rust), do it right. Either way, loving the dart content.

[@oliverdann3155]

going thro a hardtime in my life! just found your videos u keep me going really wish i could be there to help you! enjoy all videos

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Keep your head up brother! Thank you for watching!

[@michaelmckinney5541]

The 904 was offered with the 225-6 and the 318. The car with the current set up i see a 904 would grenade with the power im seeing . i truly believe its a 727

[@donvance7716]

The 318 has 727 Trans and the slant 6 is a 904. Will not fit the 318/340/360

[@grantr5417]

904s are available as well for all small block LA series engines. They were the standard automatic on 273 & 318 engines. 340s always came with 727.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

@@grantr5417 True, Grant!

[@dannyjamison8337]

Mark Worman, owner of "Graveyard Carz" in Springfield, Oregon could positively tell you exactly where each VIN stamp/tag on that car can be found. Also, Tony D'Agastino of Tony's Mopar parts could tell you the same. I hope things do work out for you!

[@dinga11128]

I will take that car back to whoever sold it to you and get my money back including all the monies that you expended in the car and if that doesn't work I'll sue in court for a lot more.

[@shaunbasnett2752]

subscribed to santas work shop.

[@johny3barr]

Not 100% positive, But I believe on Darts / Swingers / Scamps, They had a partial VIN # on the inner fender support on the driver's side ? Take out the upper fender bolts & move the fender out a bit a number should be about where Santa's hand is @ 16:26 in your video !!! Hope it works out for you or you can give the car to me 😆 in New Hampshire anything 1999 or older doesn't need a title and a VIN check is a joke !!!

[@luisobregon4529]

Randy no fan clutch in that case the blades have to be made with soft materials to be able to bend when spinning in higher revolutions.

[@OtherSarah2]

Randy, the trunk key on Mopars prior to 1990 was a standalone and wouldn't work the doors or the ignition. The ignition key SHOULD open the passenger doors. If not, um....

[@donaldconnolly220]

In California we have a thing called special construction....... Special construction will allow you to stamp new numbers into that thing however here's the catch....... And I've done this by the way a few times...... They tell you if someone comes along and says that that's their car and they can prove it you're going to jail......... Had a spitfire with no registration... Had boats with no registration.... Motorcycles.....

[@southernoklahomamopars6726]

The door lock cylinders are fine. None of my cars have working door locks because of how big of a pain they are to redo. Ignition and trunk cylinders are all I did.

[@Mike.D.843]

Why did you buy a car without a VIN plate? Always verify the VIN on the dash matches the title, otherwise don't walk away, RUN the other way... I would have refused to accept it without the VIN plate, and demanded a refund for any money already paid.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

It is hard to see, but it looks like the transmission linkage from the carb is either not hooked up or not present. That big stud sticking out to the left if where it should be. The thing has a slot so there is some movement before it starts pushing back on the lever. If you run without it, with the lever full forward (upshift signal) or full backward (downshift signal), you will get wrong shifts and burn out your trans. If it is full back, you will know it because shifts are severely delayed.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

The fact the door lock won't turn by the ignition key is not necessarily something sinister... Guys often replaced ignition switches and saved ten buck by not buy the complete set with matching door locks. So they then had two of the diamond keys. You can be Mr. Skinflint by taking the door locks apart and swapping pins until you get an arrangement where your ignition key will work. Typically you can get three out of five to work in new locations.

[@vicbrown7637]

I thought you were having all these problems because this was a flood car. Clearly this is instead because the person assembling this car was just on drugs when working on this thing. Crazy!!!

[@grantkoeller8911]

You never buy a car without a title. How could copart sell it without a title? Yes, you got screwed, but it was entirely preventable. I would sue copart!

[@tommyhall8301]

Sorry randy about the big orange pumpkin good luck you an mike make some more videos yall two are the best an santas workshop

[@grantkoeller8911]

Why the hell was the radiator hose plugged!!!!!!!Makes no sense!!!! They forget to remove the plug, when they installed the new radiator!! The pressure pushed the plug even further.

[@BuddyFlowers]

You repeat that it's not fast which makes me question the 340 is a 340 and maybe a low compression 318, the 340s would run.

[@ClassicMoparsbyEvtheDodgeMan]

I think there was a 340 in this car and the owner pull it out and stuck a old 318 back in it to get rid of it, chrome it up and get rid of it. we bought a super Bee a few year ago, and that's what the guy did he jerk the High performance 383 out and stuck an old 383 back in it it's common .

[@edwardglowacki4495]

Send a message to Uncle Tony , there isn’t anyone else that I know that has as much knowledge about Mopars . If anyone knows where you might find a vin would be him

[@gordthor5351]

You put your house key and pretty much every key teeth pointing up. Mopar is not "backwards". Chevy is backwards.

[@RandomGuyDan]

You are being too kind to Copart. They should not be accepting a car without the dash plate and they absolutely should disclose that it is missing. That said, you accepted the car from them without it, so don't be surprised if they do nothing.

[@kenbell8058]

Randy just don't see how copart can sell stolen cars an get away with this kind of stuff they should produce the guy that sold it freely hope every thing turns out ok Randy should be one on dram my CHEVELLE has one on rear driver side. Good luck man

[@thomaskapp8306]

randy there is another youtuber called diy gang who bought a all wheel drive trackhawk and had all the papers from copart and knew the preous ower and some one used his vin number on another jeep that was also sold by copart and now he has been fighting with copart from jun 18th 2021 and i dont thing he has the title yet

[@79tazman]

You really ought to do homework before you buy these cars just because they are all shiny and new on the outside does not mean they are good on the inside. What was the Vin Copart had for that car or did it have one? There is a vin on the truck lip under the weather stripping on all Mopars anyway it looks like the car is a parts car unless you can find the owner or the person that took the vin off. I don't understand why someone would remove the Vin in the first place

[@ericjohnson7718]

The 904 transmission for a slant 6 has one less Flex than 904 for a 318 .you need a727 for that. Motor with that power

[@johnhegarty1761]

The round key should operate the trunk and obviously the ignition has been changed and they did not give you the key for the original ignition as it would fit the doors, If you don't know anymore than this about cars or don't do anymore homework than that you shouldn't even be buying cars!

[@dmcmanis03]

Don’t need a title in Georgia for a car that old. Just a bill of sale. Just give it to me. I will take good care of it. And I am an original Okie. Born and raised in Tulsa. Gotta be worth a few points.

[@johnhegarty1761]

But when it was received at Copart it should have been noted as no VIN and then it could not have been sold!

[@money-bd5ns]

Compart should be responsible for the car and give you refund they should check what they buying and selling

[@ericmjunker7883]

It might have been built as a drag only car. After it was crashed years ago. And salvaged from a junk yard. Dealer is liable for selling a non-legal auto. they can lose their dealers lisseans

[@thatonerepairguy4784]

Check behind the glove box there could be another build sheet there, it’s seems a lot easier to change seat and door vs rear inner quarter. I know on some mopars the number in the trunk could be build number not vin but I thought that was post 1969 good luck

[@jeffrogosz9995]

They only used SO numbers on 68 and down it’s on data plate on fender if present and legit

[@thatonerepairguy4784]

@@jeffrogosz9995 that’s what it was shipping order number I couldn’t remember old age for ya

[@timwhite8878]

Hi randy you should know better. Before you buy car to check vin.This car is not cheap why would you go buy it with out checking vin.

[@danielmckenzie6858]

I know I been looking for them exhaust hoses that vents that gases outside, you should get them so you dont get fixeated and die on me my buddy! FIND A GROUP DISCOUNT, THERE NOT ALL THAT CHEAP!

[@carlsmith6135]

Maybe the easy burnouts are the rear end gearing. Maybe it started life as a slant 6. It's still a badass MOPAR. The hemi orange looks great on anything.

[@thomasdelasko5718]

A Florida Man thinks... Idiot lights are for idiots, it's best to monitor an engine with precision gauges...

[@paulcox2009]

It’s the same but it won’t work between a slant and a v8 because the starter location on the bell housing is comepletly different Randy

[@danielmckenzie6858]

Randy Randy, my friend, why didnt you check that when you picked up this car, I would been upset and said stick it. Dealer that sold that car should give you all that money, file law suit. I would deal with selling agency and get them to reimburse you and extra money for what your going thru, raise some cane, i love your videos, your an awesome guy when I get feeling better and my wounds on my foot heal, me and my son want come down and hopefully pickup a late 90's Dodge Dakota, my last one got total by some young woman with no insurance and totalled my lil red dodge she was a tough trooper has the 3.9 V6, it tow a trailer anywhere Randy, I send you pictures via email for you! Thank buddy!

[@mikemoyercell]

Just bc the build sheet in the seat matches the door doesnt mean the door and seats couldnt have came from another car. either way hope it works out for you. I just wouldnt trust a build sheet on a car that has been worked on such as this one. It's also missing the fender tag.

[@chuckwhitson654]

I wouldn't make a video, I'd register it drive it, and have fun with it if I couldn't get back my money from the auction

[@tony_25or6to4]

That car should have been flagged for not having a dash VIN tag. It shouldn't have been sold by CoPart.

[@toddselph5992]

I'm enjoying the videos on this car. I agree with Santa's workshop. Keep the aftermarket gauges.

[@DavidSmith-so3mg]

On the four barrel linkage cut about a inch off the tube surrounding the inside cable had a chevy truck that I had the same problem.

[@joseluis5761]

I hope i win the $100 bucks giveaway I really need money so bad Thank you for doing giveaway bro

[@angelpacheco4664]

If the car was mint I would use factory, but with all the repairs it has the aftermarket dash looks great , save the factory if a purest buys it they have that option.

[@kentbaio4457]

You should talk to Mark Warren at graveyard cars I bet you can take you where every one of them are and he may even be able to help you with the missing plates

[@GBray]

It's apparent that you are not familiar with mopars. I suggest you talk to someone who is they can explain a lot of things that you are finding.

[@79tazman]

That is weird that a car from Louisiana was at a copart in Virginia being sold as a flood car. So did the old owner do a Insurance job on the car? In order for a claim to go through the car has to have a vin tag on it

[@ls6882]

I Always love randy with Santa's workshop!!!!! I live all your guest stuff Randy!

[@ls6882]

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[@Theoriginalbubbafett]

M brother had one in avocado green. I loved that car! But it kept him in trouble with the law so Pop sold it. 😭

[@stang89617]

Re-VIN it..get a titled,wreck,or junker,and take the plate out and put the plate in this car...

[@just4kicks950]

Michael is cool dude ! You found a good one there Randy. Sorry things was screwed up on the old dodge .all problems aside it's a beautiful classic. Good luck with the Vin issues 🎬🚘👍, Salute to you & Michael 👊

[@redcougarjgw]

I'll have to watch the rest of the videos and see if you put a fan shroud on it. It keeps the pesky rocks away from your radiator.

[@vincentfrussinetty9477]

I like that orange mess it’s worth the effort to get it tagged ,once it’s proven not to be stolen they can retag it. I think we’ll NY does it.

[@scottcol23]

No wipers either? It feels like it was a project that someone was 85% done with and ran into a "Need Cash NOW" situation so they slapped it together and sent it to auction, I bet they had all the vin plates somewhere but they didnt get put on for some reason after paint a body work was done.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

Is the other scamp a v8? Because a six cylinder uses a different K member than a v8.

[@toddriesland3858]

Sorry to hear about ur Mopar Left my cash app handle in his midnight special vid on the stang

[@danbuchner1494]

The carb is a vacuum secondary not a mechanical you can play with the linkage all day and they wont open Not trying to be a know it all

[@auteurfiddler8706]

Well the hoses to the heater core are absent but I don't see the tubes they would attach to on the firewall. Perhaps the heater core is missing.

[@donavonboggs3632]

Find a rusted out one in a junk yard and put the Vin on it no big deal u take a flat tool cut pins holding the Vin on glue it down done did