I love these Thunderbirds! I have owned 2 97's, a 96, and a 95. All were LX and had the 4.6. Drove them all for over 300,000 miles except for one my wife total loss. I currently drive a 97 with over 310,000 miles on her. Been looking for another one to replace her. By far my favorite car(s). Great car you have too.
@springheeledjack1653 жыл бұрын
You are telling the truth, mine has over 350,000 miles and never had any real problems. Its low key, but my shit scoots. The engine is going to outlive everything else on this car.
@WolfPlayz2942 жыл бұрын
3y later I'm about to try and look at a 96 with 80k. Good to know I might have this ahead of me.
@brettbanta2100 Жыл бұрын
They're getting to be kinda hard to find
@mking9446I4 жыл бұрын
Had a 89 and a 94. Had about 7k in the 94. Had the 4.6 and after it wss all said and done, lowered, cobra r wheels, cobra brakes, full flow master exhaust, head swap, intake, 70mm throttle body, SC body kit, shift kit, Diablo sport chip. ..and she moved!!!!! By far my favorite of 15 cars I've owned. Love it!!!!!!
@misdelivereddishwasher10116 ай бұрын
i just bought an 89 tbird a week ago!! im in love!
@jjnorton53065 жыл бұрын
I had one those years ago. Loved it. One of my favorite cars in the last 30 years. I drove it from Los Angeles to Nor Cal one time. It flew right over the grapevine no problem. Really comfortable seats too.
@bboxx0696 жыл бұрын
I had a 96 that had a police interceptor motor put in it. Don't know how much faster it was from the 4.6 but that thing would haul ass! Had to get rid of it after I bought an Explorer. Couldn't afford two cars. I miss it so much! Also had a 89 with a V-6. Damn good and reliable car.
@jcirvine383 жыл бұрын
That was a cool car! I had a silver 95 that was originally my dads, after he passed i drove it locally when i came home on leave in the Navy. My other car was a red 95 Mark 8 (like a full size T bird, i often thought was the same car only bigger) back east where i was stationed, so i kept the Mark longer, but i was really impressed with dads T Bird for the brief time i used it
@mikeyjohnson42622 жыл бұрын
I had a blue96 thunderbird LX with the 4.6 v8 loved that car very reliable I drove that thing like the dukes of hazzard
@Smoke.3013 жыл бұрын
I just got my hands on one, same color as yours as well.. I'm only 15 and my buddy got a 1993 sc and I fell in love with it and I found the LX on market place and I couldn't be more happy that I own a T-bird! I can't wait to drive it!
@mrearl38196 жыл бұрын
I love thunderbird LX cars.....
@chrisclowers32044 жыл бұрын
They are truly awesome!!!!
@mikeyjohnson42624 жыл бұрын
Yess I got a mint condition 96 t bird v8 LX with a spoiler and dule exhaust and it's my fav car by far an I got\ had a few nice cars
@BrownBomber92181 Жыл бұрын
The 94-98 Tbirds with the 4.6 only put out 205 hp, but it was torquey, just under 290 lbs. Stock they get to 60 in about 8 seconds, which was quick back in the 90's. These cars had a very tall gearing, 3.08 rear end, change these to 3.73 or 4.10's and its accelerate much faster
@jamesmeny6 жыл бұрын
My 97 thunderbird had the original radio/cassette player, too! Very nice car!
@EconomyElk4 жыл бұрын
the one I own currently also does
@howieewalt13223 жыл бұрын
Hey man, fellow 96 Tbird 4.6 owner here! Your whip looks mighty fine my dude! I know this was a few years ago, but I just did a airbox delete with a K&N intake filter. They make the kit for like $150, and it just bolts right up. Thanks for the upload!
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
Right on. Sorry for the late reply. Life’s been busy, that’s why no uploads either lol. I’ve seen that kit before on SCP. I’m wanting to do a tune-up on this car before too long. I’m definitely planning on doing that K&N conversation when I go to do that.
@howieewalt13223 жыл бұрын
@@Carkage No worries homie, I'll check back every now and again to hopefully see a new vid. I'm getting some clips together soon, and then I'll upload my babybird.
@Trump-jv8xf3 жыл бұрын
Good video and car. Had a 97 just like it minus the roof window. Thank you for the passion you have for it. Nice to know there are people out there keeping these unknown gems of a car alive.
@DoyleShadduck5 ай бұрын
I loved my 1996 Thunderbird LX. They were way ahead of their time. Sleek and luxurious cars.
@musicauthority7828 Жыл бұрын
I'm purchasing a 1998 Thunderbird V8 coupe, it's almost the same color it's a little more purple colored than that one. when I get it home I'll know more. but so far it seems to be a good car.
@dntlss5 жыл бұрын
Very nice man, one of the best cars Ford made,comfortable,great suspension and much "sleeper" possibilities, had a buddy that had one, i think it was a 96 4.6 that had just about every go fast goodie you could throw at a car up to including a supercharger,thing was scary fast.
@Trump-jv8xf3 жыл бұрын
I had a 97 laser red lx from new to years ago. I went full bolt on: intake, exhaust, pulleys, programmer, upgrade transmission, rear end, suspension, and even had a 75 wet shot. Super sleeper it was, more fun than my super fast and expensive cars I own today. If you find a nice one, buy one or a Lincoln Mark viii. Also, even highly modified, it is hard to get a ticket in and easier to get a warning. Insurance is cheaper too!
@EconomyElk4 жыл бұрын
I also have a 96 thunderbird 4.6 v8 lx im the second owner of it, I bought it from a old war veteran that bought it new back in 1996 its been outside all its life but the paint is still near perfect(only the pinstriping is faded). its white with green and gold pinstriping on each side and has chrome factory rims with the spoiler. The interior is in really good shape and the dash has always had a cover on it so the dash is immaculate. Its also been maintained good so its mechanically sound. Another bonus was that he sold me it for 800 bucks which is a great deal for an almost new 96 thunderbird. It makes a great first car its fun to drive and I plan on keeping it for a long time.
@WolfPlayz2942 жыл бұрын
Hey two years later, I may be about to get a 96 for $400. Still a good deal from everyone I have talked to.
@davidpierce3072 Жыл бұрын
I still have my 1997 Thunderbird Lx,,, 183000 miles, still runs great, ac blows cold, drives great, leather Int still looks good..Love my car
@9876bel984 жыл бұрын
I had a 96 in 99, I want it back. Black tinted windows, that was my baby. I've looked but they're hard to find now a days.
@Carkage4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Not many people appreciated them seems like. Find a few nice ones now and then but most have been driven into the ground. Thought about getting one as a daily but can’t find any good ones.
@dennishogenmiller44568 ай бұрын
Purchased a 1997 Thunderbird in 1999. Had it for 13 years. Best car I ever had!
@hm124606 жыл бұрын
Had a '97 Cougar, sold it a few years ago and regretted it as soon as it left the yard without me. Got a '95 T-bird now with the 4.6. Awesome cars. The 94-97 Cougar/T -bird were some of the best cars ever built by an American car company. As a plus, my 95 Bird has the OBD2 diagnostics. Thats right, OBD2 in 1995!
@mickdouglas30626 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised there's not more of these hopped up. I think I might have to get one.
@Carkage6 жыл бұрын
Mick Douglas I definitely love mine. It’s just a pleasure to drive. With the IRS and the amazing Suspension it is extremely smooth. It handles really well too. And it’s a pretty stout running car. It’s not much out of the hole but at a 40 or 50 roll it’ll get up to 100 faster than most people that don’t know any better would think.
@MsBabieK6 жыл бұрын
You will love this car if you get one. Very comfortable, very fast, super awesome, dependable and reliable. Worth the money, but I suggest if you get an older one like this to have someone that you trust, check it over so you know you are getting something that is going to last.
@mrgimble25 жыл бұрын
You are lucky! I have had a '96 and a '97, I loved them both! I sold the 96 and traded my 97 for a Ford Ranger because the rack and pinion went out on it. I wish now I would have had it fixed and kept it!
@derrickjackson67376 жыл бұрын
Love Thunderbirds cougar and all Mark's
@christopherhartos72493 жыл бұрын
Beautiful T-Bird!!
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cheyennebest83565 жыл бұрын
Thunderbirds are the car to own I have a 95. I love it I've owned a 93 and 2 95's .I wouldn't own anyother car
@BlackavarWD Жыл бұрын
Did your car have the laser red topcoat? Curious if the body shop had to match it. I have the tinted topcoat and I need to buff out really bad water spots. Nervous about color. Did you fix the top paint?
@MsBabieK6 жыл бұрын
Dude if you replace the piston rings on that car can you please make a video of it so I can see how it's done. I would greatly appreciate that. I hope you have a great day.
@howelljaynes12924 жыл бұрын
I have a 1997 TBird. Original owner. I really like the car. So much about this car is so right. It's the V8 and I ordered it with all factory options except the sun roof....could kick myself for not ordering that. 190,000 miles. Very reliable car. Passes California's strict smog test easily after all these miles. With all the options...including stiff suspension and the Mark VIII brakes, it has great road handling. I'm in the midst of restoring it. It's the opalescent white color. Interesting....why did I buy this car....because it looked almost exactly like the 1991 Australian Ford Falcon that I used to own. The Falcon was a four door, but otherwise looked pretty much the same.
@tonyarc94553 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFUL car!
@seandunne9619Ай бұрын
I have the same care. Repainted it 2014 Lincoln ruby red, 5 star 16 in wheel, borla mufflers with some motor work, puts out 355 h 290 lbs tourque. Love to see you you uprdates. however if you beef it up, renforce the wheel well,trust me they will not hold up. Have to redo mine
@Brutis-19832 жыл бұрын
Had a 97 same color with tan interior . Did have the rear spoiler . Ran great. Wish I still had it
@donmiller46415 жыл бұрын
I have a 1990 Tbird that I bought new ,it is approaching 600,000 miles runs like new. I also have a 1995 super coupe with a 5 speed.
@williambreeden48055 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! I miss my 96 TBird! I had a moonlight blue one. Yours looks really nice. They ride nice too. For the paint, try some Meguiar's products. Also, think twice about replacing the wheels, the factory ones look really good. My TBird did not have a sunroof - I never knew that was available. That car has a nice dash and instrument cluster. Give that engine bay a good cleaning too! Great video!
@craigemery8564 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same car!
@gptom13 жыл бұрын
Have 2 95 lx 4.6 and had a 93 5.0 sport. Wish I kept my 93. My green 95 & my white 93 have sunroofs.
@JamesThomas-dn6ee4 жыл бұрын
Always wanted a t bird and got a beautiful 2002 a few weeks ago and I'm in love its whisper white I'm having the hard top painted next week thinking of black but I also think red would look nice
@Carkage4 жыл бұрын
james thomas I love the 02-05 Thunderbirds. Most people I’ve talked to don’t like them for some reason but I love them and I really want to get one sometime. I test drove a whisper white 02 about a year ago while my truck was getting a couple of dents popped out I decided to go to the dealership next door and just kill some time. Felt like the American dream somehow, a nice 2 door coupe that gave me a special feeling that had me smiling ear to ear the whole test drive even though they don’t have that much power it had a certain charm to it. I really want to get a Desert Sky Blue 03 with matching top and white interior one day to have as a cruiser. I might would’ve gotten that white one but they wanted like $16k when it was blue booking for $11k.
@JamesThomas-dn6ee4 жыл бұрын
@@Carkage yea I love them they do not get alot of love but I dont mind I love mine it's in amazing shape has the red and black interior. 73 thousand miles great cruiser it will be my summer toy lol. It was $9995 worth every penny I just need to decide on the hardtop color and I'm all set
@Topwop19744 жыл бұрын
Brother mine is s 97 same color scheme deer hit me still driving collecting parts dobson nc thanks for the videos
@springheeledjack1653 жыл бұрын
Kinda been on the 96 Tbird videos, but my car has been extremely reliable. Yea sure the plastics on her are cracking and she isnt as clean as she used to be, but never has she ever let me down. Dead cold of winter, starts right up, stupid hot summer keeps going. My old man gave me this car in a low point of my life, he was scared because he couldn't control the rear wheel v8 in rural Indiana weather. But my old gal has been done nothing but right by me.
@GUWOP2033 жыл бұрын
I had a 97 T bird....I was the 3rd owner it had only 123k miles on it...some A -hole totaled my damn car.....smh I'm in the market for another one though I love the way they ride....good car to...so cheap and easy to fix
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
Hate to hear that. Hope you are able to get yourself another one.
@starrlitdreams28854 жыл бұрын
I have two 1996 Ford Thunderbirds. One is a parts car (first one I bought) and I just got a new one for $2500 that is in amazing condition for a 1996.
@ramoncarter65852 жыл бұрын
I've sent a green T-Bird not so long ago it might either been a 96 or 97 like the front end of the 96-97 models. My late grandmother classmate had one in gold her car was nice it looked good like new and was very reliable got totaled sometime in 2012 after somebody had hit it she wasn't hurt at all probably was disappointed because had to get another car. These cars are reliable, fun and quick grew loving the American cars before went to imports still a GM fan also was Ford fan now huge Ford SUV fan love these old Ford cars around that time the Taurus, Thunderbird, Escort and Explorer were some nice looking cars around that time.
@FaithfulServant3162 жыл бұрын
I love this car. I own one too. Would luv to make a sleeper out of one. Wish there was some type of Shelby motor that would fit in it but look all stock on outside, to fool ev1. 😊 💪😎🇺🇲
@superbird2814 Жыл бұрын
The nitrous cigarette lighter is funny. My 1996 TBird is also a sport option model, but in silver. I upgraded to 17" rims long ago. I don't have a lot of the options you have like sunroof and automatic climate control and the extra guage cluster.
@ChrisfromGeorgia5 жыл бұрын
Hey Huff! New sub here. I just got one today. Mine is the exact same 1996 Thunderbird LX model, but doesn't it doesn't have a sunroof and has 130,000 miles on it. The paint I have is horrible, but the body is in good shape. She does have decent interior and the seats are really comfortable like you mentioned. I paid 1,300 cash and it does have new tires, but needs some TLC which is mostly cosmetic, but it has a few quirks and the craziest cupholder setup ever. Thanks for all the information and I will probably ask you some questions as I go along fixing her up. I want to make some videos here soon on the progress. I look forward to checking out your channel! Take care and I hope you have a smooth weekend. Peace
@jxrioss213 жыл бұрын
How has it been holding up ? Good for a daily ?
@ChrisfromGeorgia3 жыл бұрын
@@jxrioss21 I actually sold her about a month ago. I will say that it could be a good daily if you get one in good condition. The main problem I ran into is that there aren't many out there, and certain parts can be hard to come by. In the end, I couldn't justify putting any more money into her. If you want a better daily, look for a SN-95 Mustang. They are much better when it comes to Aftermarket support. Personally, I would have enjoyed driving a manual transmission as well. Btw, like the Foxbody Mustangs, I believe the SN-95 Mustangs will only go up in value here in the coming years.
@MsBabieK6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those headlights if you don't mind me asking dude? I need to get me some just like that. What type were they again?
@johncalla21517 ай бұрын
I had a '97 in that color and wheels. Can't tell you how many times I was out there fixing that antenna. I said I would run it into the ground but gave up at 170k miles and gave her away.
@mattmaverick7033 жыл бұрын
Basically a larger Mustang GT youre totally right but with the size and luxury of a Taurus LX/ SHO. My Dad had a silver 96 Taurus LX basically same style interior with the cloth marble look and yes those are super comfortable like sitting on a couch they do not make anything that comfy nowadays unfortunately
@springheeledjack1653 жыл бұрын
Didnt the Taurus have bench seats?
@CurtisHoneycut10 ай бұрын
Brother I got one a '96 LX2 hub it's got the 4.6 highlights factory I love it and take a thing in the world for it and it is one fast machine from factory probably one of the fastest trade Ford ever put out
@CTjacob135 жыл бұрын
I have a 1996-2004 Mustang GT cold air intake on my 1997 Bird. I had to go to AutoZone for one coupler and it all works. The stock intake is crazy the way it goes down the bumper. I also have a muffler delete currently. Stock resonator in place. I have a set of Long Tube Headers and a Magnaflow system to go on in the spring.
@mattmaverick7033 жыл бұрын
97 the last year was only year they used the 96 to 07 style Taurus Gauge Cluster. Yours still has the 94 to 96 cluster
@rafacastro98943 жыл бұрын
A guy is selling a 94 Turquoise Thunderbird with 109K miles for $2250. Should I buy it?
@bboxx0696 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Sport button on the shifter. I didn't have a lot of money when I had mine. Still don't. But I put Bosch Platinum spark plugs in it and it gave me a little more horsepower and helped out on gas mileage. On the color. Is that Laser red or Vermilion? I'm subscribed now. I'll check out your other videos. Keep up the good work.
@lierbechillin2 жыл бұрын
Got the same one that I rebuilt, question please tell me you know where the Purge valve solenoid is, because can not find it
@craigemery8562 жыл бұрын
Only 90k on mine. Have to do an intake manifold in the next couple weeks though. VERY common on these 4.6L's from what I've heard. TIP: had to replace automatic climate control blower resistor module on mine. The module is STUPID expensive on these like $250+. The Automatic Climate Control module on a 2001/2002 F150 is almost Exaclty the same. That's what I put in mine for under $40. Works Perfectly!! Direct fit!!
@larryspiller66333 жыл бұрын
I'm getting one real soon. 97', paint is faded on the hood. One owner 70 thou miles. Just something for me to mess with.
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah. They’re great little cars. I’ve had mine for 4.5 years and love it!
@iamwilliamwallace93143 жыл бұрын
I went from t bird to Mark viii. If you can get a hold of a 4.6 32v Mark engine it will fit this car and much faster
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
I really want a Mark VIII sometime. Those are awesome cars! I go back and forth between a 32v swap or just doing a head/intake/cam swap on this one with a nice trickflow setup and good cam. Can’t make up my mind though lol.
@nathanlopez5667 Жыл бұрын
Bro I just picked up one of these 1997 4.6 63000 miles how did you get the headrest off to put on the seat covers it's a pain in the ass I tried everything even loosen the two caps
@mattmaverick7033 жыл бұрын
Nice Thunderzord.
@yourboimike3753 жыл бұрын
My grandpa gave me his 1996 Ford Thunderbird lx it only has 29000 miles
@starrlitdreams28855 жыл бұрын
My baby is also a 1996 Ford Thunderbird LX. Mine is a 3.8L v6 and has no sunroof... I've owned her for a little over a year but she's been dead since 10 days after I bought her.
@starrlitdreams28855 жыл бұрын
Mine only has 97,000 miles... That's really low for her age. My boyfriend's 2013 (second owner) car has almost 200K
@noRanchnoService Жыл бұрын
Where should I go to get a new battery for a 96 thunderbird lx?
@claudespeed2775 жыл бұрын
I found one for 300$ and it is in decent shape, too bad the engine is knocking, due to flooding. Should I get the engine rebuilt?
@johnnybiggtyme5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@terminatorpaul10596 жыл бұрын
Need help is there a way to change housing for thermostat we changed thermostat but housing rotted ts my baby have same car help
@robertgetz21072 жыл бұрын
Hey what website did you purchase your clear turn signal headlights I have a 96 thunderbird and I have been trying to find clear turn signal headlights and I got scammed on trying to buy them from this website
@Carkage2 жыл бұрын
I got them from Amazon but unfortunately I’ve been told they don’t make them anymore and haven’t been able to find any since. I was going to get a spare set just in case but haven’t found any.
@Galahad9932 жыл бұрын
Check eBay
@dylanfaircloth25244 жыл бұрын
I have a blue one only has 68,500 miles on it
@ryanclifton70335 ай бұрын
It possible to put a cold air intake just remove the air silencer and run it underneath
@ajsltr4 жыл бұрын
Maaaad clean brother! You still have it? Also a fellow Virginian here!
@Carkage4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yep, I still got her. 4 years with it this coming January!
@bradenstevens31603 жыл бұрын
Where’d you get those headlights? I just got a 1996 Ford thunder bird lx 4.6l v8 and my head lights are ass so I need one new ones
@Carkage3 жыл бұрын
I ordered these from Amazon a couple years ago. But I know you can get some from Super Coupe Performance. Just look up supercoupeperformance.com and you should be able to find some there.
@kadendavies58604 жыл бұрын
My first car is a 96 lx 4.6 and it has 70k miles and payed 3000 for it
@jdm2772 жыл бұрын
Nice! Looking at a 97 now lx 4.6 64k miles trying to get it down to 3k
@corenebyrd91393 жыл бұрын
How to replace a brake boot on a 96 ford thunderbird lx 3.8
@cdos91863 жыл бұрын
How much does a paint job cost on one of these?
@craigemery8564 жыл бұрын
I have the same exact car but blue. Shes my baby also.
@Underratedtoxique4 жыл бұрын
Why dose yours look so different then mine I have a 1996
@mrkongsimr4 жыл бұрын
HI how are you ? Does this car have enough power ???? Thanks
@chrisreed265 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh about the climate control comment "This is well ahead of it's time" haha My 1984 Cadillac Deville had digital climate control too..It's really nothing that new!! Anyway, Very nice T-Bird! I'm looking at one as a beater car to drive daily down here in FL...a 1996 LX with 86,000 low miles..only $2600.00
@jaredr2518 Жыл бұрын
3.8 motor?
@tjone64054 ай бұрын
I had a 1993 blue tbird with the 3.8 six and I love that car I traded it to get something for my wife now I wish I had it back it was a perfect mix of luxury sport styling economy and sophistication Ford made a big mistake getting rid of it then bringing it back as a retro
@tjone64054 ай бұрын
That body platform does not get enough credit way better than any GM Chrysler Dodge platform at that time and the SC model was better than the Grand National
@andrzejoos4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same engine as Ford crown ? Or.?? Mercury. Grand ?
@alejandrob-c22774 жыл бұрын
Im trying to find that because if it has the same reliabilty as the crown vic then im down to buy one!
@ryans24 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrob-c2277 its the same 4.6l v8 as the f-150, mustang gt, crown vic, etc
@davidkopatz82704 жыл бұрын
👍
@onabudg_gaming19044 жыл бұрын
Hey Ik this is a old vid bug you can do cold air intakes mine has ine
@onabudg_gaming19044 жыл бұрын
One
@richardjuel36165 жыл бұрын
You have a beautiful car outstanding I'd like to know what you paid for it but I'm sure you're not going to tell us I got one thing to say though I took my rims off of my 96 they are identical to yours the twin 5-spoke sanding and getting the powder coat off and buffing them out because they are aluminum and they are Immaculate so either you sell me your car so I can put my rims on it or you should buy my rims and put it on your car because it would look fabulous thank you very much
@zelle2 Жыл бұрын
hell yeahhh
@phillipthomas51334 жыл бұрын
I have a 97 limited edition with the 4.6 it’s awesome
@claudespeed2776 жыл бұрын
Lol that cars high tec, it has a cassette player, the same one I have in my 99 Ford contour
@camtheatlien38823 жыл бұрын
Would you like to sell it?
@josephfrank14723 жыл бұрын
Had a 93 was great got totaled on the FWY when someone a hole hit and run me..
@derrickjackson67376 жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy me a 97 T-Bird 60000 miles V6 3.8 $350 Needs a fuel pump paint tires also power antenna loaded clean inside ⛽ saver climate control AC
@AlexS-wl3nc6 жыл бұрын
Dont do it. Youll regret it eventually. I bought a 3.8 mustang cause it was clean with low miles. But the 3.8s charm wore off real quick. Things gutless, but it is a solid motor. I had to drive it 15 miles without coolant because it slowly burns coolant and i didnt notice. Motor still runs great, just have to top it off now and then.
@AlexS-wl3nc6 жыл бұрын
Unless its the super coupe. Buy that up
@mikeyjohnson42624 жыл бұрын
Idk bro
@Chad-hf4rs4 жыл бұрын
Your baby needs a name!!! I have had the pleasure of being blessed with my Babygirl Charlene! She's a 95 Thunderbird LX V8 4.6! FUCK a badge she's straight Real!!! You brag for the wrong reasons!! How about you stop patting yourself on the back and pat her on the back yo!! You got the shit all wrong!!! No wonder you spend more time trying to be what your not than time spent acually knowing her name!!! BTW a Fake ass nitro cig lighter says it all!! Shits sad!!
@claudespeed2776 жыл бұрын
it's ironic that my Ford contour could beet ure v8, mine has a 2.5 l v6, but I'd like a Thunderbird