My biggest pet peeve in martial arts - How to knife fight properly

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[@randomdude4505]

As a survivor of a knife attack who successfully disarmed and restrained my assailant without being injured, I have no idea how you defend yourself against someone with a knife when you're unarmed. I got lucky the first time, if there's a second, I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

[@inside_fighting]

It’s so dependent on the circumstances and situation. You got an angel looking out for you

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

Wow! Do you have any martial arts training?

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

That is the question how to defend yourself against someone who has a knife while you are disarmed.

[@berserko2008]

​@@andrewtanczyk4009Either don't show up or carry a pistol........ or fight dirty, bottles, dirt, sticks on the ground ect........ I survived 4 knife attacks, was cut in all 4 of them........ lucky the idiots didn't really know what they were doing, or else I might not be here telling my tale.........

[@patrickedwards7107]

And I as a knife attack/defense study value your opinion from a place of experience over any keyboard warrior or bullshido artist. The man who's books i draw from was also a survivor he stabbed a dozen times and left to die in an alley only he didn't he got tough and would go on to create a very effective system his name now tied only to a combat knife he and his peer partially designed he would train commandos In his 50's and reportedly survive hundreds of altercations at the edge of a knife, a service pistol, and his bare hands in warlord era shanghai as a municipal police officer his body was reportedly covered in old wounds he never forgot what it was like to be assaulted with a knife spent his life teaching others to fight for life.

[@emptyemptiness8372]

As someone who has been stabbed and as someone who has watched someone die from a stab my life experience teaches me THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A KNIFE FIGHT there is only getting stabbed suddenly before you know....so approach every confrontation as if there is a possible knife, don't be a hero, West Side Story is a musical not real life, just get away at the first chance and always protect vitals until that opportunity.

[@inside_fighting]

While i empathize with your position and personal experience it is not reflective of a greater context of potential knife encounters and is akin to saying that there is no such thing as street self defense because someone was a victim of being hit behind the head when they were unprepared and unaware… My best friend growing up was stabbed in the liver and the lung in a stupid street fight… i know someone who was stabbed to death from behind… i have personally had knives pulled on me. I am not a stranger to knives There are numerous situations where a knife is “presented” and I’ve personally experienced them. 1. Acts of terrorism. 2. Domestic violence (often a weapon is presented before being used) 3. Road rage (posturing) And even in street fights that escalate (as we just saw with the metro stabbing where the 21 year old died after literally being dumb enough to chase a guy holding a knife)… Yes you want to get away And cover vitals… what will help you get away is extensive knife training including training with a shock knife and also many situational awareness drills… The notion that knife fights are crazy and dangerous and chaotic so there is no point training against them is the biggest misconception in modern day martial arts and would be akin to telling military not to bother drilling since wars are so chaotic and bullets are impossible to dodge and come out of nowhere and a bomb can go off and wipe you out. You still train for small statistical advantages. Additionally it’s rare for two armed people to engage each other which is why most attacks are an aggressor who is armed against a victim who isn’t… Part of what helps is being prepared and carrying a gun, mace, a knife etc and practicing deploying and engaging a threat over and ovver

[@adam28171]

Don’t know many people that would walk around with a blade that large. Smaller blades are harder to disarm and the most common used blade in street attacks are cheap kitchen knives not the ones that cost lots of ££££$$$$. Good to hear disarms are BS, control/stick and disarm asap. Police reports show most knife attacks/ assaults only ONE person has a blade, the other is fighting for their life or doesn’t have the time to deploy their own blade. Obviously there are exceptions of this before everyone searches KZbin to prove this point wrong.

[@inside_fighting]

It’s very rare for two people to be carrying. Based on the reports i saw. Most victims are unarmed. There are numerous situations where deploying a blade is viable. The length of the wood blade is standard (4-5 inches) to what you would encounter and where the blade becomes more lethal. That length the disarms feel and work the same as the longer blade. Most of my training is on 4 inch blades. In acts of terrorism the first victim won’t have a chance to deploy but future ones will if they have a weapon. Again… more complicated than a simple answer

[@adam28171]

@@inside_fighting that’s why FMA seems to be a dualing based art. I suppose on a battlefield that would work, but in todays urban environments including all the pre-phase contacts, Dialogue and interview an attacker does to their intended victim deploying one’s own blade would be very low percentage. I’d like to see a comparison video on silat knife work and FMA. As a fan of both arts, Silat doesn’t seem to be as direct and to the point as FMA but happy to be educated on this topic🙏🏻

[@inside_fighting]

@@adam28171 if you have a blade sheathed at the hip you will have time to deploy… in the Philippines itself knife on knife fights are not as uncommon as western civilization. I personally always have a blade on me… sometimes two… and i can get it out quick. Filipino martial arts is often an in tight quick system and deploying is just as much a part of it as using it. I find fma knife fighting more modernized than the Silat I’ve done personally but I’m not a Silat expert

[@connorperrett9559]

That way of holding the knife at the beginning is a Medieval/Renaissance way of holding the knife, typically long, straight daggers. It was done in order to defend against longer weapons and to forcefully stab through the thick, protective garments of the day. It worked for a particular time and place but the circumstances of modernity are totally different.

[@patrickedwards7107]

The rondel was also used periodically as a grappling weapon in ice pick due to its length it could be used to catch overhand with crossed wrists grasping the rear edge and brought down could break the wrist we see this somewhat replicated in fairbairns armed fighting when the wrist is grabbed to using the inner edge on a knife that cuts both ways to dissuade. Dagger dueling was present alongside germanic longsword treatise.

[@jasonadams1632]

I've always said when it comes to knives the point in the point. Movie 'The mask of Zorro'; Zorro: "Do you know how to use that?" Murrieta: "Yes, the pointy end goes in the other man."

[@Tom_Framnes]

In my utmost humble opinion. “ Nothing more rewarding than getting ones thesis validated by those who exceeds oneself in excellence” “Wisdom equates to correct comprehended knowledge appropriately applied” “ Fighting is relativity in motion, therefore never expect only respond as it one’s opponent within context that dictates tactics” What also many neglect to consider, is the overall physical/ psychological trauma that a knife cut/ slash/ stab will produce, such as: profuse bleeding, shock,nausea/ disorientation/ sensory depravation due to blood loss, as well as the overall horrifying visual factors as it’s beyond brutal in nature visually, and will most likely also severely debilitate mechanical functions of the limb that has been cut:sinew/ nerves/ ligaments/ connective tissue, all in an extremely short period of time, one cut or stab can change the outcome of the altercation in an instant, this is also why armor/ shields where a part of the overall weapon systems. “ Awareness equals avoidance, as proactive preparedness increases chances” “ There are no guarantees only opportunities, missed or taken” Learning a grappling art, paired with scenario training, accepting the reality and learning to choose between the lesser of two evils, ie continuing getting stabbed or try to control the weapon arm, i mean try; as at is easier said than done.. Weapons are equalizers and force multipliers for a reason, and they have been with man for aeons, so for all Martial artists, I humbly believe it is important to learn and comprehend as much as one can in regards to all aspects of combat, both armed, and unarmed, and train with these aspects in mind. An honor to be able to observe and learn from such a fellow peer as yourself. Sincere regards. Fellow Martial Artist. Tom Framnes. Norway.

[@inside_fighting]

Thank you. The blade is an art in itself and one that makes you realize how fragile we actually are.

[@Tom_Framnes]

@@inside_fighting Indeed. 🙏🏻❤️

[@temptempy1360]

The knife in tight is to defend against strong longer weapons, quarterstaff, swords. With a space there isnt enough strength to block the momentum of their strikes when defending or closing. Of course you dont leave it there to attack. But it is also useful to punch and keep the attack envelope small, then deploy _once_ their propioception tells them you dont have reach, causing experienced people to misjudge distance and threat.

[@lewieanderson6579]

When i was trained in kali/escrima the instructor told the class that the most dangerous knife fighter is an untrained one because they are not going to follow a particular pattern.

[@mattmagna_]

One of the best channels out there, you deserve 100k+ subs

[@nicholascecaci2932]

Your words have officially changed my style. Thank you 🙏

[@joco762]

I spent a number of years trying to understand why others were so enamored with lupa. All I got was a headache and went back to figuring out women because it’s easier.

[@patrickedwards7107]

Thank you I study fairbairns combatives pretty heavily there are a number of knife related systems meshed within it I have always tried to incorporate steyers, applegate, biddle's texts remaining close to the historic context. I study with Hemaists finding the saber and rondel fighting dagger mechanics translate over. While there are some uses for the ice pick grip I tend to emphasize the versatility of a foil grip in that fashion keeping the default blade sort of lateral to the ground tip presented tight in the workspace but facile as your showing. I want to keep the attacker at range, to slip using some of those in qaurtata thrusts essentially saber thrusts ready to withdraw stick break contact. My initial targets are always in accordance to this form going to be early in removing their fingers if presented putting blood in the eyes severing things that will greatly disrupt their fine motor control in the hand a thrust must be covered and setup fencers have a saying the art of combat is in the feign all combat is deception. To knife fight is to grapple I view these things as inseparable. Again thank you for dispelling the BS I've had people approach me and bring up the very same ice pick discussion declaring it to be the mark of expertise some lethality in ego. There is only one time I've seen that Mentioned it is within col.applegates kill or get killed it is outlined as a covert method walking past a man you essentially jam the blade upward into the kidney leaving it and continuing onward Never a contextual duel scenario the former OSS man who wrote it was openly critical of the ice pick form in the rest of that text and maintained those opinions in his post war retrospective to WW2 period knife tactics. Everything you said here in this video is on point straight lines and off switches not opening risks in an already very hopped up situation. All that bravado goes away when a man sees his fingers and his knife hit the floor with a flash of red to fight with the knife is to get down in the gutter there is no gentleman's conduct no facades no guarantees.

[@vyderka]

very useful, informative and so common sense, this fb video you mentioned.. it shows how peaceful our life now in the 1st world is, so as people can create some wild and unrealistic theories around such basic things like killing people with stabby/slashy objects.

[@VTdarkangel]

Very good video. I have heard many nonsensical statements about knife fighting as well. Even though I would never consider myself an expert, I have tested many of those BS theories in training and found them to be BS. The only real advantage to ice pick is hooking. I wouldn't consider that enough to choose it over blade forward.

[@game9848]

Thanks for giving a lot of useful info. Notice a lot of FMA practitioners(Balintawak, Doce Pares, PTK, etc...) are all adding Illustrisimo method to the training. Edgar Sulite was ahead of everyone by adding Illustrisimo aka KI to his LAMECO Eskrima. I'm 6'5" so I train both Saber and Ice pick. I hope to never be in a Knife fight.

[@inside_fighting]

The short time i trained with Tommy years ago privately was one of the best experiences in my martial arts journey and influenced my knife fighting a lot. I use both as well other than at range where i will always go to lead leg saber grip.

[@theblackswordsman5171]

This is a perfect biggeners guide to edge weapons. Experience ones will value the information. The unwise comment troll maybe not. The untrained but willing to try will benefit tremendously here. Thanks for the honest instruction.

[@smiffs113]

As always, very both informative and entertaining video (regardless if it was really a response to a FB vid or just an excuse to torture Eli some more lol). I started training in martial arts 20 years ago (mainly Muay Thai, with 2 years of BJJ, on and off with boxing and a year of Savate), I had a roommate at the time who trained Escrima at NY Martial Arts Academy (who had one of the dog brothers as an instructor), and after seeing how lumped up he would be after sparring days was enough that I never pursued it. Cut to 6 years later and I move to South Africa where I've since known 2 people who've been mugged with Pangas (SA machete) and a neighbor who had his gardener killed with one during a robbery, so I eventually made time on two separate occasions to attend Craig Douglas run seminars on visits back to the US. I carry his push dagger (and usually CC a Glock 17) and learned a S-ton over those courses, but it's still awesome seeing how Philipino techniques are used and why. TLDR: Another dope video.

[@inside_fighting]

Appreciate that 🙏🏼 yea full contact stick fighting is harsh

[@andrewtanczyk4009]

9:45 I’d have to agree with you. Definitely better to have the regular stab and slash grip rather than the ice pick grip.

[@1vs1ninja]

Those who attacked you on social media probably just watched Under Siege and were hyped on adrenalin.🔪

[@alenfvv770]

Great vid. Finally someone realistic and with some sense. Respect.

[@inside_fighting]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@clintstinkeye5607]

My best teacher told me to report to Keiran for knife training. I got him a couple of times, but he stuck and slashed me 1,000 times before I got a possible turkey strut moment with a rubber knife. I really, really want to avoid a knife fight. I really, really don't want to fight. A double mocha, crossword puzzle and ink pen is about perfect. For real.

[@B..B.]

I will start walking around with a staff and tell that is for support walking. I'm not confident in a knife fight even knowing what to do. The staff will always give me better chances with anything besides a gun or sometimes a spear 😅. Thanks for the video. You are very informative and easy to understand.

[@hobowithawaterpistol9070]

Nice video! I wish you had addressed the sewing machine to the body! In my opinion this is the scariest scenario especially if your in a room or can’t run. My take on this is that the attacker will impose his will on you very strong and very quickly, and to add to it if he’s a bigger man. He’s not concerned what your going to do to him even if you have a knife. He could be hopped up on drugs! He could take a stab in the side or stomach and not even effect him much until later after he’s pumped the knife into your body several times like a sewing machine. If he’s all over you and all you got was one stab in him or nothing, he’s killing you!

[@inside_fighting]

It’s the hardest thing to deal with. I touched on it very briefly but i didn’t want to get off topic

[@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158]

Years ago I had this same conversation after knife training. After a while I asked my friend if he was a Naruto (anime) fanatic. His eyes got real wide and we both laughed quite a bit. Reverse grip has its uses but in general has less advantages compared to "normal" grip.

[@inside_fighting]

Agreed and you can’t blame someone for loving reverse grip based on all the movies around it and anime 🤣

[@Mr440c]

Being able to apply both is the way to go. In a very tight spot reverse is much better. I wouldn't even say that it has less advantages. Knifes are most effective in grappling range but when you grapple reverse grip is better by magnitudes. You have to consider which muscles you're going to engage into your striking with reverse. They are much stronger which makes it easier for you to drive the blade into the bad guy. It's also better for disarming and hooking which flows into quick slashes that are also more powerful. It's great both when you want to go fully lethal or non lethal.

[@blakestuart-stephens6168]

ive trained kali at home to a little succes as i have drilled live against untrained freinds and peformed dissarms but never felt comfortable with it as ive never had real lessons im about to start them as my new mma gym offers unique classes eg sambo and kali but really this video was beyond helpful it has really helped me nderstand the basic concepts more knife crime is a problem now in uk alot of my freinds have been on both sides of the knife and is what forced me to seek protection in martial arts as i did not want to carry and contribute to more hurt

[@goldeneagle9761]

Very informative 👍 thank you.

[@inside_fighting]

Very welcome

[@goldeneagle9761]

@@inside_fighting I would like to occasionally see some more knife skill training videos. Dedicated videos to each category defense, offense, effectiveness, and different knife types that compliment. Also maybe different knife types that are more effective then others.

[@inside_fighting]

@@goldeneagle9761 sure i hope to make more videos like that!

[@Old_Sailor85]

What do you think of the Fairbairn system? He is also a fan of keeping the knife moving constantly. Sure, it's "old and outdated", but knives haven't changed much.

[@ScrubDaddy265]

The Fairbairn-Sikes method is still very much relevant. Honestly, the will to stab another human is the deciding factor in whether any of this stuff works or not.

[@inside_fighting]

I very much agree with the comment that someone already replied tbh :) And as you said. Knives haven’t changed much :)

[@buddhninja]

Hej! Thank you for making interesting videos, I have a topic suggestion for you, that I think you could make an interesting video about. Given your background in Filipino martial arts, and Mauy Thai and Full contact karate, it would be interesting to hear your though on "fancy handwork" if you like, by which I mean trapping and using the hands to incapacitate, and 'block' blows during a real fight. All too often would get the impression that the anything other than kickboxing is not real and ‘bushido. I really liked the format of this video, because your expertise, passion, and knowledge shines through, and something similar would be interesting to cover the topic of trapping in real fight. I have 15 years of experience in different styles, and as such I am not hoping for an introduction to the topic, but rather to hear a sort of ‘video-essay’ with your opinions and thoughts, because what I am seeing is that the ‘Filipino martial arts” does not work, serves as a undermining of Martial arts and the benefits it has for people studying them - keeping in mind that Tai Chi and modern Taekwondo are great Martial arts, but I would not recommend them for self-defense.

[@mb2776]

Foward grip is more agressiv and has more reach. No doubt about that. BUT, there's a time and place for reverse grip. As you said in the beginning, the situation is, attacker has the knife out and you have your knife out. Is that the most common situation? A classic duel? Maybe in your location but in my place, most of the times, reach don't matter cause the distance is like super super close. In fact, the reach has it's disadvantage cause it's harder to manouver. A classic knife duel is more or less kinda like fencing. That's just not what I've seen here.

[@ziggydog5091]

The only instructor I had that knew how to knife fight was my first Arnis instructor who has now passed on. He was a retired constable that worked in Manila, many of his fellow constables were killed in street violence involving blade violence. He taught a simple direct style of Cinco Teros and could still do contact stick fighting against much younger men when he was over sixty. He had many scars on his body from bladed attacks. What has this guy done?

[@inside_fighting]

I’ve done a lot but congrats on the comment 👍🏽

[@dababy4182]

Im wondering if any principles of HEMA could be applied to knife fighting

[@inside_fighting]

absolutely elements of it could.

[@ScrubDaddy265]

Fiore has a whole section on the rondel that can be applied to knife, especially smaller blades that are common now, where slashing is ineffective and thrusting or ice pick stabbing is better. Even forget the edge completely and just use a Philips head screwdriver.

[@joco762]

If you aren’t studying the hema sources to add to your weapons work you are doing yourself a grave disservice. I had no idea what I didn’t know and it’s all there for the taking, no special club, no “secrets”.

[@bajuszpal172]

Gentlemen, very interesting. To my humble knowledge on knife fighting the forward grip is active , agressive while the reverse grip is passive, defensive (also confirmed by the witnesses). Your mixing it make it less digestible for beginners, at least. There should be a difference at least in three levels. Say: Passive- defensive, Semi-active -defense and limited offense and active- highly tactical ussing both approaches. What I really enjoyed were the explanations on open/ close hand positions and two handed approach, the boxing like movements and angular approach at close-in range. Beginners would appreciate review of the three levels highlighting the core ideas along withpresentation. . All the best.Paul, 68, retired isnstructor of Karate

[@mikegartland5866]

Solid. Thank you.

[@inside_fighting]

Very welcome!

[@omari2306]

If you have good boxing eastern european foundations, and kendo battojutsu foundations of fighting you can learn how to knife fight preety easly. It becomes intuitive.

[@unifedgongfu]

the icepick grip has an advantage in case you don't want to use the knife, and than it just supports your fists. and the icepick grip also good in case you want to use more circular \ round movements with your entire body. now the question is why doing so, is a bit tricky, since it just better against an unarmed person, that you don't really want to hurt. in case you have some sort of shield, you will stand in regular grip within the rear hand and the shield in the front hand.

[@cyberserk5614]

I need to hear Jim Carreys opinion on this.

[@randybowman]

How worth it do you think training knives is? If you knife fight an untrained but athletic guy is the difference similar to grappling an untrained but athletic guy? I feel like knife vs knife both people are gonna get stabbed up probably.

[@inside_fighting]

You will get cut unless you are very lucky but training how to use a knife is a major advantage in a knife fight... The statistical difference isn't the same as grappling because the margin of error is so much smaller but it exponentially increases your chances of survival when you have one and they have one. Empty hand vs knife is very difficult and dependent on how the guy attacks but even if my chances of survival go from 5% to 15% that is a massive jump. The notion that knife fighting is useless because you will get cut and its messy is both true and untrue.. its true its messy and chaotic and you will get cut but its untrue that its useless.. All my opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

[@badart3204]

I mean most people get stabbed a lot before they are stopped and clothing is a massive factor. If you can limit getting stabbed to padded non vital areas that’s a big deal

[@gatusberserk6972]

Masterclass!!!!!!!!!!

[@srijanghoshh8633]

Awesome

[@alextop1850]

Great video, if you where getting sent to siberis prison with killer s and had to know one fighting system which one would it be ? Great vid

[@inside_fighting]

Filipino martial arts would be good because people create weapons in prison and multiple people attack you.

[@alextop1850]

@@inside_fighting OK great which specific style and who is the best at that style is it empty hands , Hubud Lubud?

[@inside_fighting]

@@alextop1850 panantukan and pangamot are the empty hand aspects. It’s so teacher dependent that I can’t give an exact style. Make sure to find a school that focuses on weapons (especially the blade) and open hand close quarter fighting

[@alextop1850]

@@inside_fighting which is the best school in the Philippines 🇵🇭 for this would you say?

[@jasononeil3816]

This has been the most realistically informative video on knife handling I've seen so far. Thank you.👏❤️

[@inside_fighting]

That means a lot! Thanks

[@Mr440c]

The best way to confirm your knife (or whatever) grip is right is if you can strike from all 8 main directions effectively. With power.

[@kimsatterfield1942]

Not wanting to be a wiseass here, nor am I looking to start an argument, but when I see a video such as this, I have to ask, "How much real, actual knife fighting against a live blade have YOU done?" Just like "street fighting" instructors, a person has no business teaching streetfighting or knife fighting if they have never done it. And yes, I've done both, for real. It's tempting to pass on knowledge attained from another as qualification for teaching, but unless it's knowledge gained through actual experience, it's false knowledge, and a serious disservice to your students.

[@inside_fighting]

I’ve done a lot of live blade training as well as shock knife training… and in retrospect i find live blade training idiotic and am lucky i just have some scars and nothing worse. I also don’t think someone has to go engage in knife fights to be a good teacher nor is it a reflection of whether they can knife fight or not… This reminds me of guys who get in a bunch of street fights claiming they can beat up anyone... I know lots of boxers and MMA fighters who haven't been in "street fights" who I would bet my life on in a street fighter over the guy who gets in them... I’ve also done a ton of full contact stick fighting as well… There is no physical way to engage in “daily live full contact knife fighting” So you do the best you can. I’ve also had numerous knives drawn on me in real life outside the gym fyi… Try and debate the argument in the video as oppose to creating a strawman

[@inside_fighting]

Post a video of yourself knife fighting. Let’s see it

[@graylad]

@Inside Fighting Sir, what is the optimal blade length for an everyday carry personal protection knife? I've heard under 5" for easy deployment and maneuverability but with enough length for stopping power. Thoughts?

[@inside_fighting]

I EDC a 4 inch blade and for me it's perfect. I also like specific blade shapes (straight, ideally double sided) and won't use a folding knife anymore due to the chances of failure or collapse which would result in my own hand being chopped up. So fixed blade, 4 inches, with a sheath I can face on a 45 degree downward angle.

[@JackShen]

I like edge inward ice pick for blades 4 inches or less and only use the point, unless I am lucky enough to get a hook to shear the arm. But like you said there is a loss of angles, you really just have some nice quick back hand jabs. I hate the edge out ice pick where people think they are going to get good slashes. Why reduce your range from full arm plus blade length to essentially elbowing range?

[@iChefTheImpossible]

That intro is amazing

[@inside_fighting]

Thank you. Some say i have the voice of an angel

[@Skeet-xw8dc]

Some points are good, others are ridiculous. Ice pick is just as dangerous. For you to train in Kali,15yrs in Kali we train both ways.

[@inside_fighting]

I train both ways. Doce pares is more ice grip than traditional even… i love been doing Kali 25 years… reverse grip at range when both knives can be presented is terrible. It’s only good close.

[@CorsairTrainers]

You can kill with either grip. Seen it done.

[@gatusberserk6972]

I am now subscribing 😊

[@inside_fighting]

I appreciate that 🙏🏼

[@u45.-]

What about if you had a knife and a small make shift sheild like less than 1 square foot. So you could carry it on you easy. Also would it be easier to go for other vital areas like the femeral arterie groin etc... I'd also think a longer dagger with an edge would be good improvised weapons shields maybe push kicks etc...

[@cgsec2275]

That is not really practical. Might as well get a stab vest.

[@dylan.-6527]

Not many videos on this. Done mondern arnis for years.

[@inside_fighting]

Hope you enjoyed. I’ve seen some modern Arnis guys demos and it reminds me a lot of doce pares

[@johnnymism]

Not sure there is such a thing as 'knife fighting'. In the event of being attacked by a blade it's something you can never replicate in a drill or in sparring, it's pure violence with the attacker having the intent of trying to kill you sometimes by butchering you. Often it's an ambush or someone just talking to you first. Still , it's better to do some prep. How many of these experts have been stabbed or attacked with a knife?

[@inside_fighting]

Well yes and no… if you are walking around with a knife you best learn to use it. Also i rather have a knife in a knife fight then no knife. I also wouldn’t say being stabbed previously is an indication of ability or skill nor is one attack reflective of survival in a future attack. Training every day with a shock knife is in fact very valuable. Also not every knife attack is an ambush and in fact it’s not uncommon for someone to present a knife prior to using it even if it isn’t always the case… I’d still rather be better equipped in that situation than have no option. The same argument can be made with almost any self defense situation since most self defense situations fit the criteria of “highly aggressive” “unknown variables” “high stress” “unfair advantage for aggressor or aggressors” You still do your best

[@jackm2293]

i like you man. ❤🙏

[@inside_fighting]

Well that is quite the compliment :)

[@u45.-]

Thank you for this video. ice pick is so Hollywood it makes no sence. With the Ice pick grip they tried to reinvent the wheel and failed. Keep it simple lol.

[@irvinjaycarranza6828]

Which grip do you use often? Pakal or saksak?

[@inside_fighting]

It depends on the blade design. Saksak at range for any knife. Kerambit i use pakal but a tanto style blade Saksak up close

[@mizukarate]

I run from all knives.

[@inside_fighting]

Even the disposable plastic ones? 🤔

[@mizukarate]

@@inside_fighting yes

[@mizukarate]

@@inside_fighting Thankfully only threatened with a box cutter once. I tracked down a guy who stole money from me. After I slapped his glasses off his face with demands for my money he whipped out a box cutter. I looked at it and thought to kick it. Then I woke up and ran. Never got my money but broke his glasses.

[@inside_fighting]

@@mizukarate respect 🫡

[@tx.tactical3165]

Cool intro...😂😂😂

[@buggaboo2707]

5:10... I love you you just got done saying that if you are in closed position the knife hand will always be in front... then parry with front hand and bring knife behind the lead hand and tell us how you are now in closed position ( and the knife hand is closest to chest ). I get it that explaining stuff is hard and martial arts "rules" don't always hold up... I just think it's hilarious

[@warrennicholsony.fernando4513]

I've trained in knife defense. The first thing you've got to overcome the fear of the blade. It helps in implementing the defense technique.

[@milgrimpsycho585]

These are very insightful could you do a FMA/Silat demonstration instructional on how to disarm a knife of a guy using a silat/fma style? And differentiate it on how it would be different from disarming a hooligan/gangster using the grabbing and linear stabbing style?

[@milgrimpsycho585]

And do like a live sparring of it like the dog brothers

[@inside_fighting]

I ain’t disarming a knife from a high level fma guy :) a stick possibly but not a knife. I’m going for slashes and stabs. I do dog brother sparring but with sticks not blades. With blades i do shock knife sparring

[@sirvivor7835]

Very cool, sir... but where is my kebab?

[@inside_fighting]

In the mail habibi

[@Skeet-xw8dc]

Definitely disagree with that. My instructor says both are deadly. Not just 1. GrandTuhon GT, stated both are dangerous. Pekiti Tirsia

[@inside_fighting]

One is dangerous close but not at range

[@anonymousdoggo9326]

That particular reverse ice pick grip, with the blade tucked close to the forearm, is the best grip to use.... if you're working in a kitchen and need to move safely around people. I'm not too sure how it ever applies to knife fighting unless trying to conceal it, maybe?? Just never made sense to me unless a particular situation called for it

[@temptempy1360]

@16:20 that is NOT how to disguise a knife attack. Why you fk kt up?! You cover it with arm, bring up to box, and throw jab/cross or similar "i have no knife" attack to decieve your danger, either slicing a blocking arm, or making use of people's tendency to evade by a narrow margin (where you then use knife to cover the evaded space, eg they slip slightly to side "oh you slipped my punch, but not the two inches of blade on that side"

[@nathanarmstrong7636]

Jkd lead for the win. With a knife. Lol

[@inside_fighting]

Exactly the same concept yes

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

I've been practicing Silat and Escrima since 1993 and Taiji, Bagua and Xingyi since 2008. I like practicing slow twisting and circling steps with blades. It nourishes my brain and I circulate my chi to stay healthy and massage my internal organs to stay soft and limber. The first thing I would teach someone is how to relax and root and circulate Qi. After relaxing, someone can learn basic Gong Fu!

[@alextop1850]

Hubud lubud?

[@JojieCerteza]

can't you just hubad lubot instead? jejejeje

[@armwrestling_nerd]

There is no such thing as "knife fight" its murder or mutual murder ..no fighting will really occur when tou commit knives.

[@DanTheWolfman]

I'd be interested if you watch my multiple empty hand vs knife vids but also my knife dualing sparring vs 6'4" 265er

[@inside_fighting]

Is it on your channel? i will check it out.

[@RebornThroughHate]

Useless in a street fight.

[@DanTheWolfman]

I keep messaging you to find my email on my website. I'm injured and free ro collab today or tomorrow

[@inside_fighting]

Ah didn’t see. I’ll email you now

[@inside_fighting]

Email sent. I’m around today as well

[@DanTheWolfman]

@insidefighting1841 I've replied let me know today soon or tomorrow

[@richardtodd6559]

Your no different from any of these people you criticise….please explain to me how many real fights you’ve had with a knife and how many of your opponents you’ve killed…oh that’s right none…no doubt like your instructors and great grandmasters…their are no real knife fighters except a few military people who’ve actually fought & killed their enemies …with a blade…we’ve all been trained with knives for years in all the traditional arts, but very few have ever had their attitudes tested…including yourself

[@inside_fighting]

First time i had a knife pulled on me i was 12 in The Jerusalem market.. I’ve been in about 5 encounters with blades I did live blade training and train constantly with a shock knife and full force impact weapon training “dog brother” style… Your argument is the same as telling an mma fighter they don’t know anything because they aren’t going out and getting in street fights and actively committing murder daily… Why don’t you come spar with me and feel it im person instead of writing comments to feel like a man 😘

[@inside_fighting]

Also my teacher has a scar down his entire arm and couldn’t use it for a year cuz of a knife fight in the Philippines 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m glad you have a place to comment though 😀

[@RonFitCoaching]

With the knife your using in this video I wonder if you ARE an expert. Where I'm from and in states and countries a blade that size is illegal and would put you in jail never mind if you cut or killed someone.

[@ricardocampbell8265]

Isn't there a difference between a Blade and a knife?

[@inside_fighting]

well a knife is a bladed weapon... A blade is just the sharp part of any tool or weapon.

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

I’ve seen one stabbing in jail in 2020 in the Toronto South detention centre. It went as follows Dude with knife bum rushes the other guy grabs his jumpsuit and pulls the it down and toward himself while doing a whole bunch of fast stabs like a sewing machine. They were both spinning around as the victim tried to get away but was held by his clothing and the strikes were tiny and fast. Everyone thought it was just punches to the stomach and side until the dude ran and then dropped at the guard station at the front. COs didn’t even run in because the ting was so short and small u couldn’t see it just looked like man was getting punched. Not sure if victim died because we went on lockdown then I was transferred back to old city hall for another bail hearing and got released.

[@inside_fighting]

That is, in what I’ve researched, the most common knife attack.

[@RAPEDBYBLACKS]

I thought about it a lot and I can’t think of anyway to stop that. Especially here in Toronto people wear layers, that type of attack is devastating.

[@inside_fighting]

@@RAPEDBYBLACKSit’s counter intuitive but you have to go in to the blade as it retracts so that the person doesn’t have space to re-stab… The instinct is to pull away which is impossible and just makes a much wider space to get a deep stab

[@jamesoneill8901]

Whoa dude, what's up with the screen name? Prison story? 😢

[@mattmagna_]

One of the best channels out there, you deserve 100k+ subs