My Black Throat Monitor Lizard is still not okay!

My black throat monitor lizard, Bobby Rubino, has a big problem and it's not UVB light, it's parasite! He was farm bred reptile which is a surprising discovery. Also check up on how Inky the black dragon is doing! Subscribe to kamp kenan: goo.gl/BecCMM
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[@NewEnglandReptile]

This animal likely has an ecoli infection (or salmonella) which is lower GI flora in the stomach. This is likely due to “tainted” food that should be lightly cooked before being offered as a precaution. Once ingested the animal will appear sick as early as 24 hours or less. They cramp up, often vomit and become listless as they suffer pain and discomfort. Treatment is an antibiotic that treats ecoli and salmonella as well as ensuring water ingestion/hydration. Clearly basic husbandry and temps needed to keep the immune response on point. Don’t forget the foods we can find at the grocery needs to be handled as a “ bio threat” until it’s cooked a bit to kill pathogens which can hurt our critters. Kev

[@NewEnglandReptile]

After eating raw shrimp thus little guy was not feeling so good so antibiotics are needed to get the gi bacterial load under control. This little guy should be fine after the course of antibiotics. K

[@lornahayne9181]

He looks tired they do sleep don't they?

[@williamponce5907]

The little lizard has the heart of dragon. Dont give up little dude

[@BboyMobster]

Thank you for always being transparent man! I never feel like you’re hiding something like other animal youtubers.

[@KampKenan]

Thats our goal🤠

[@mojojojo00]

Ps 🦗 can carry hairworm .. stick to high protein foods.

[@rickmoss7040]

I would keep him as far away as possible from the rest of your animals.

[@danwills7660]

I gave my 6ft male blackthroat to a zoo in a theme park here in the uk as I was getting offered money for him to be a breeding machine but didn’t want that so donated him for free as he was puppy tame and they could walk him around and do talks with kids etc. And he had an enormous enclosure made for him with a waterfall too, so no money in the world to me would’ve stopped me depriving him of that 🤘🏼

[@realfnneato3111]

Honestly, we need some people to use their expertise in caring for black throats for the future of keeping the species, we need to breed them in captivity

[@brittneymcglynn5474]

Oof that’s a bad look on who gave you the monitor. Thank you for being honest and transparent, that’s rare in the reptile community. You’re a hell of a dude, some of the best content!

[@bhutch216]

Farm bred and captive bred are not interchangeable terms but some dealers will do so. I bought my bearded dragon from that same store. He was sick for a week shortly after we got him. But we took care of it and he’s now 4 years old and 23” long.

[@brittneymcglynn5474]

I’m glad to hear he’s doing well 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@hopeadler507]

He’s from NERD is he not???

[@Nu2prepn]

@@hopeadler507 no

[@hopeadler507]

@@Nu2prepn he literally says heir from Kevin in the video lol

[@Iamdinodude]

If an animal has parasites it's not a good idea to handle another immediately after

[@nickfaiella9164]

how many of your reptiles have had parasites?

[@herpdiversity9152]

@@wordsalad01 well thank you then for you info.

[@jamesbosslet994]

Parasites can be transferred from animals to humans as well, hand washing is so important, thats why they have hand sanitizer at reptile shows now at most booths!!

[@herpdiversity9152]

@@jamesbosslet994 Hand sanitizer at booths is mainly a concern about bacteria but yes some parasites have zoonotic potential. That is a very good point

[@tommyarton194]

Moral of the story: double check the "breeder" source.

[@dawnb1561]

Hope Bobby makes it and I know you are trying everything you can. Just some advice in listening to other reptile keepers they did say to always quarantine your reptiles from your other reptiles when you first get them. Then make sure you wash your hands because you can pass parasites, illnesses, etc. to others. Thanks for all that you share and being real. Take care and stay safe!

[@greensun1334]

He surely tries all he can do for his Animals. Have you seen the Video of Slinky when he was almost frozen over Night? Real Emotions.

[@dawnb1561]

@@greensun1334 Yes! That was really showing how much he does care about his animals and I know he does. That was true passion and conviction for not just a pet but a family member. He knows his reptiles and what it takes to take care of them. I love his channel and look forward to each video.

[@TheNyah5]

I just realized Bobby has an angry/sad smiley on his back. 😅😅😅

[@yobum1894]

I was just about to comment about this 😂

[@angielou123]

Lol oh yeah 😂💖

[@Silentjuggler]

Omg he dose!!!! 😂

[@michael-ik5db]

Why do they look kinda sus, considering Bobby was farm bred

[@trenteaton4184]

I had a Chinese water dragon last year, and she ended up crashing and to this day thought it was my fault. After research they are commonly farm raised and it exhibited similar symptoms. This video was super helpful and made me feel so much better about my abilities as a keeper.

[@chadashbaugh7153]

What's up kenan been a been fan since your BMX days been watching for long time but first time commenting just want to say thank you if it wasn't for the video with the awesome Slinky freezing and you helping him I wouldn't have my Savannah Monitor any more he got out a couple nights ago in my house and the same thing happened because I living in the mountains of PA. Just want to stay thank you for everything you do bud!!

[@KampKenan]

Wow that is amazing to hear Chad. Thx for sharing🤠

[@michaelthomas4346]

And you are exactly right. One of my favorite sayings is " the less you know, the more you think you know, and the more you know, the more you realize you don't know"

[@kymberlysteiger8125]

The easy way to say Metrotrazadale is Flagyl. I’m really happy you guys figured it out! Because he’s a spectacular little guy!

[@KampKenan]

Thanks Kymberly👍

[@debbiecozortakalonghornmom1862]

Lol, I’ve been taking that antibiotics of that name for a week now. For my diverticulitis.

[@jackimatamoros7098]

I'm sure everyone would love to have Kevin from nerd on their contact list... lucky man! Nice of you to share though and give credit 👍👌 This is the whole concept behind Brian barczyk's #reptilegurus you should collab on that

[@KampKenan]

👍

[@jackimatamoros7098]

@@KampKenan if you do collab, and #reptilegurus launches with all you gurus for us plebeians to reach up to....can I get a store credit to call the best guru around........Kevin Mccurley. Bahahaha. Just joking. But you can't even be mad because look who you called! He just knows his stuff; love or hate it! And I happen to love it 😈😈! Have a good one! 👍

[@Katastrop]

poor little dude... its so weird seeing a baby reptile just laying out in the middle all exposed with closed eyes and not bothered about it

[@juliac3933]

The “farm bred” thing is so shifty. It’s really misleading buyers who receive a new pet with health problems.

[@AngryGiraffe66]

Little advice will help with him as well mate get that substrate changed out for something more course like soil so he can dig but while he’s on antibiotics put him in a clean hospital enclosure for now with paper towel. We’ve had a few water monitors with the same issues from shipments and unfortunately most don’t make it but with the right course your taking hopefully yours will mate

[@sarahjaneroberts1736]

Hey Kenan, good to see the update on little Bobby. My son was 8 yesterday, and for the last 3 weeks I have been sharing a room as I fell down the stairs and broke a toe so I cannot get up to my room, anyhow, enough about me, my son has ADHD, I was laid in bed one night watching a video, and he saw the video. The video was of Slinky, and my little boy is now in love with Slinky, Pinky, Inky and Bobby (Slinky is his favourite). He never liked lizards before, and he is still not keen on snakes, but your amazing boys and girls have got him hooked. We have to watch a video every night before he goes to sleep. Sending lots of love from us to you and the Camp Kenan crew! Xxx

[@kevinduffy4670]

I wouldn’t have Bobby anywhere near Inky

[@2trickyvicky]

I suspect my tortoise was not captive bred after getting him. As he crashed and I spent hundreds tqo treat him. Luckily he's a healthy boy now. It's definitely important to do our best to avoid funding the wild caught babies.

[@joeyspijkers9867]

What species of tortoise is it?

[@onlyjuan100]

I’ve been hanging out to hear about Bobby’s progress, thank god for Kevin!

[@HouseOfDulo]

Poor baby, he looks like he's really feeling achy/dizzy! Hope he recovers quickly, I love him already!

[@crystalbutterfly4812]

Sending love and prayers for Bobbie for full recovery! Sorry for the mis information so much is illegal and its so great that you are so honest in telling us all. Get well Bobbie!

[@KampKenan]

That’s our mission🤠

[@panzerkrieg3509]

Sadly selling wild cought or farm bred is not illegal. My peach throat was farmbreed cause i couldn't find any captibe breed babies. My goal is to find her a male and breed her when she's older so i can offer captive bred babies. I hope to do the same with other monitor species also.

[@talltraveler82]

Happy to see the quick update at the end! Definitely a good sign for little Bobby!

[@KampKenan]

👍he’s heading in the right direction fingers crossed

[@crf50hugo1]

That's great news!! Thanks for updating us and being transparent.

[@bkm2797]

Happy to see Bobby is coming around and you have Kevin from Nerd to help. Inky looks good and seems to be coming along really well. Love seeing those cute baby turtles. Thank you!

[@dancingoctopus9888]

I love your method of involving your audience in your learning process. You are a natural leader and educator. So much respect!

[@yack7403]

Happy to see you got to it as early as possible! Wishing him a speedy recovery

[@joshhibbs_nola]

Good job Bobby! I hope you make a full recovery and we get to see you running around and being happy and healthy.

[@mikesmith2718]

Kevin is a legend in the monitor game . I'm glad you contacted him and got Bobby on the right track . I had similar issues with a Savannah monitor and had to get the same meds because he was loaded with parasites after taking a fecal sample in to be tested . Unless you can prove they're captive bred I would stay away from imports like Kenan said . Wishing the best for both baby monitors and I feel good that hes gonna grow up to be a big strong dragon. Hes a fighter .

[@kittykat4168]

So happy Bobby's coming good...its a worry sometimes....ur animal husbandry is outstanding Kenan, i see the love...

[@amcgeckos]

I'm super glad Kevin McCurley was able to help you...Kevin is truly amazing and so glad Bobby has made it this far. Great job Kenan and wish you the best of luck with Bobby!! God bless you.

[@StormlilyRoe]

Wishing get well to all the sick little ones and a full recovery and inky keep growing up and glad you are putting their health and well being first and want what is best for them and thank you for all the information and wisdom and appreciate all you do Kenan and thanks nerd for helping out Bobby

[@angelgreen3532]

Kevin really is the best. He knows more and understands these animals better than anyone else in the industry. You ought to have a conversation with him about field collecting so he can explain to you why it's actually a good thing.

[@NewEnglandReptile]

There is another side to it using ball pythons as an example. It’s a long explanation but a more realistic one. In some cases we are taking the “resource” alive instead of as skin or meat/trinket/novelty. Ball pythons are no longer needed as babies from the wild so for the most part they are now being rendered as meat/ canned and skinned which is a travesty as it’s now taking from the population without an interest in the overall welfare line there used to be. Like I said long explanations to fully explain needed. K

[@valcrotta8007]

omg poor baby! What a terrific dad you are.

[@douwboy]

With all the cold snaps and the temperature shifting so much I can fully understand why you keeping her inside. Keep up the awesome work Kenan can’t wait to see Bobby back on his feet again and back to full health. Love the awesome vids.

[@melhernandez6987]

You are such a great care giver he will bounce back soon enough!

[@KampKenan]

👍🤠

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

Coil UVB lamps are shite - almost worthless. Much better with a tube.

[@PonderingStudent]

Do you need to preventatively treat Inky? Their enclosures are right next to each other and on videos you've handled Inky straight after Bobby without washing your hands, so Inky could easily have caught parasites, or indeed something else, from Bobby. Perhaps it would also be a good idea to keep the 2 of them separate until Bobby is fully recovered? Metronidazole is pronounced metro-nigh-da-zol by the way. Flagyl is a brand name for it.

[@angelgreen3532]

Inky is several generations removed from the wild, and his parents were parasite free. Kevin even breeds his own feeders in house, so there was no way to introduce parasites. Ink doesn't have parasites.

[@starlawilson9011]

I was going to mention that he should probably wash his hands after handling Bobby, before he touches Inky. That's how stuff like that gets transferred

[@PonderingStudent]

@@angelgreen3532 As other commenters have said, I'm not worried that Inky arrived from Nerd with parasites, I'm sure she didn't. I'm worried she may have caught them from Bobby, because Inky's cage has been right next to hers ever since she arrived. Plus, Kenan has handled Inky immediately after handling Bobby without washing his hands, which could easily transmit parasites or disease between them.

[@CherryVanityRawr]

@@PonderingStudent parasites aren't as contagious or as easily spread as something like mites, Inky should be fine as long as he doesn't make a habit out of handling them back to back

[@ayeme9246]

It's a parasite, not a virus lol. Parasites aren't exactly contagious like that. Inky will be fine.

[@ScottyC1919]

Also I’m a big fan man you inspired me to learn about these animals and teach others about these things so these animals live a good healthy life👍

[@stephanietripoli9699]

So glad Bobby is doing so much better. With you taking care of him he will make a full recovery 👍

[@katesear7631]

Poor Bobby he looks so tired 😴 I'm sure he'll bounce back soon especially with the high level of care he's receiving from his dad 💕

[@peterjeffory8247]

I love how open he is about everything

[@dalyo96]

Kevin is a reptile wizard

[@NewEnglandReptile]

You are kind! K

[@toxic_munchkin8307]

You done the best thing by talking to kev, what he doesn't no about reptiles, isn't worth knowing. The guy has love for all his animals just like you and chandler. Keep up the amazing work you all do

[@erikburns1787]

& you will love him even more because of this experience & extra care you had to give him to survive ❤

[@danpennington9926]

Glad he is feeling a little better! Im sure he make a full recovery. U take excellent care of ur animals

[@ZokomoTV]

Glad you were able to figure out the problem and properly treat it!

[@tamcsilva]

Glad you figured out what was going on, and glad he is improving!

[@andreww8855]

Well done mate keep the good work up

[@d4dp0ol41]

I know it sucks going through things like this, but in the end, in my opinion, it creates such a stronger and better bond between you and your reptile.

[@marcmuller9556]

good job kenan. i know that parasite problem. sometimes its not that obvious. great video!

[@josettesciberras1613]

Thank God he is getting better poor poor guy. Thankfully he found you Kevin🥰🥰

[@hiclite]

Having treated my own reptiles for parasites and worms, I can definitely relate. Bobby just doesn’t feel well right now but hopefully he will hang in there. Continue to positively stimulate him so he doesn’t give up.

[@tracym6297]

I sure hope this little guy makes a full recovery. Some people really suck. I can't imagine how many broken hearts are out there because their monitors didn't make it. This little one is lucky you bought him. Reptiles are so resilient, yet fragile at the same time. Fingers crossed. 🤞🤞🤞 And I'm so glad you let people know there's nothing wrong with not knowing everything. But don't be afraid to ask. I tell people that once people think they know it all, it's time to get out of the hobby, cause you'll do more harm than good. Thank you for educating people.

[@nickwf70]

So happy to see him feeling better

[@FrogTalker]

Great video! I was curious. I wish you didn’t have to defend your choices, but I understand why you do. I leave a lot by watching your vids. Thanks for taking the time to produce these.

[@davidcbeaudoin]

I’m so glad to hear that he may be on the mend. Li’l guy is a fighter and he’s lucky to have you as his caretaker.

[@greensun1334]

Poor Bobby, get well!

[@loriw2661]

I’m so glad you included that last little bit regarding Bobby Rubino!! It’s so good to see him chomping that cricket. Whew!!!!

[@thecatsmeow9972]

Very informative Kenan!

[@LanceKirkman]

Excellent Kenan!

[@aronoiiel]

So glad he is perking up a bit. These videos are so good and crucial for anyone ffom new to vet of herp keeping. Im really glad you know how to hunt down the causes.best of luck and thaf really sfinks about the farm :/

[@KampKenan]

👍🤠

[@debconness7718]

I think it's so cool to watch them swim around they are so smooth and fast

[@7his1s3mi]

Oxbow carnivore critical care mixes more smoothly in water than the flukers. My lizards also seemed to like it more and would eat more of it, and hatchling anoles can be really picky eaters. Best of luck to Bobby!

[@McRambleOn]

Your transparency shows the pitfalls of the animal trade that anyone could encounter and sharing your experience will definitely help other similar animals who are being cared for by good hearted, well intentioned keepers. You made the effort to be responsible in sourcing the animals but unfortunately found a hidden reality, now you can and should be an advocate for the end of this type of “farming” in the pet trade.

[@torrie5882]

Could the parasites have contaminated the things in his enclosure such as the substrate and everything else inside the enclosure? Also couldn’t this be transmitted to other animals? Praying for this animal not to suffer.

[@michelleboniwell1556]

Great job Kenan! Love to Bobby...you can do it!! 💕

[@jimmy6919]

I actually had an identical experience with a savannah monitor I had a few years ago, I purchased him as a captive bred hatchling and ended up having all of the same symptoms of bob. I didn’t have luck bringing him back but hopefully you do. Good luck man!

[@KampKenan]

Thank you for sharing

[@TheScottronica]

Come on Bobby Rubino, let's kick this and thrive. Kenan, I like that you don't give up and are willing to reach out to ask others for help. We are always learning if we allow it. Enjoying the vids. Thanks.

[@stuaitken6649]

You are doing a great job Kenan keep up the good work 👍

[@alexandrastangl8982]

I’m 🙏🙏🙏🙏for your little Bobby Kenan. Just keep doing what your doing! 👍🤗❤️

[@elishagardner]

Thanks for the update. Ive been worried sick about Bobby!

[@melycan]

I like that he has a sad smiley face on his back, in the circle closer to the tail :D So happy he's starting to do better =)

[@casaanimalia7809]

Result, glad hes eating on his own that's a huge step. Well done kenan

[@elobrien1975]

I think this is a great video that lets people realize that even a "reptile guy" has issues and problems they need people to help them with. Perhaps it will encourage people to seek help and that its OK to ask for help.

[@stephanieadamski6465]

Glad Bobby is feeling better.

[@BachikoiBabi]

Guys! The information @Kamp Kenan is giving is great info, but HE IS NOT A VET! If you're questioning the health of your animal, take it to a vet! Treatment for animals is not universal. What works for one might kill another. Take advice like this with a grain of salt and always double check with your vet!

[@mumbaiglimpses5761]

Generally when my fishes get sick I try to keep the systems complete isolated. Separate nets, siphon pipes, everything. I even sanitize my hands between work between the tanks. Isnt a similar bio safety measure applicable to reptiles?

[@kittensnugs]

Normally, yes. The exact same protocol as any transferable parasite, virus or disease

[@mumbaiglimpses5761]

Kenan should also be following the same

[@kittensnugs]

I agree

[@bhutch216]

Generally when my fish get sick.........oh wait they don’t. 625 gallon saltwater setup 6 years, no loses other than a few green/blue chromis. 9 tangs, 13 angelfish, 4 mated pairs of clowns, etc. 61 fish total. Reputable dealers, proper quarantine when purchasing and proper diet. I have a 250 gallon sump system. Other than cleaning the protein skimmer and rinsing out the filter media once a week, I do nothing to the water. RODI unit tops it off every day. I haven’t done a water change a 4 years.

[@mumbaiglimpses5761]

@@bhutch216 done flexing? 😂 powrr to you..however sometimes getting from a reputable seller is not an option, like for me I am into wild bettas the fishes go directly from maybe a remote stream in borneo to my tank. In such cases you have to deal with a host of diseases...part of the hobby

[@Duskstrider]

Im so happy he's doing better! My god I were so worried he was not gonna make it.. Hopefully he keeps getting better and that we will one day get to enjoy him as an adult :)

[@rachelkunz611]

Feel better soon Bobby 😘 He is just soooo cute!!!!!

[@davidoak584]

Congratulations Kenan I'm all for surrounding with knowledgeable people my dude and again happy bobby is feeling a bit better. For a NJ Kamper

[@darkndeed6311]

It's always super stressful when you have a sick animal, especially a reptile. Good luck Kenan, I hope Bobby recovers for ya :)

[@hoptoit5910]

Kevin McCurly is such a knowledgeable dude. I could listen to him for hours. Glad he’s so approachable and so happy Bobby is on the mend 💕

[@michellemorningstar880]

Thanks so very much for telling it like it is your amazing at what you do Kenan prayers to the lizard...

[@angielou123]

Praying for little Bobby 🙏💖

[@dougsotto9825]

Any concern that bobby could possibly transfer the parasites to Inky?

[@danielr7644]

Probably

[@heather3926]

Absolutely possible

[@yeetghostrat]

I'm sure Kenan isn't dumb enough to overlook it. I'm sure he's preemptively treating Inky.

[@soitgoes_1334]

Hope he has a quick and full recovery..🥰

[@shamrockinit8747]

That Inky! She is soooo cute swimming around-and “go, go Bobbie! Get better buddy! 😁

[@ashsnape1937]

Dude I also reached out to Kevin at NERD a few days ago 👍 asked advice about my savannah monitor. Jacob there quickly replied. You guys are all awesome. Much love my American amigos 👍👍👍 🇺🇸 🇬🇧

[@wise9022]

Bobby is going to be such a cool monitor when it’s grown. He’s already so chill, granted he doesn’t feel great, but still I feel like he is going to be such a personable monitor 👍🏼

[@tjreptiles2019]

I am so glad Bobby is going to be ok that's amazing news!!!!😍🤩😎

[@KampKenan]

🤠

[@irishivancarranceja1468]

that drug is effectively powerful getting rid of intestinal parasites. i believe he will be okay soon. good job kenan! hopefully nxt vlog ill belong to the shoutouts hahaha.. i always watch your vlogs more power to the kamp

[@onlyjuan100]

I can’t imagine how sick Bobby must have felt, it must cause some stress and shock cause he’s so little, I’m thinking of you, Bobby and the family. 🙏🏻❤️

[@cayteowands]

!Fantastic job! Respect

[@carolynyerby361]

As I said the last time it looked like his backing up was him trying to get away from the pain he had near the back of his body. I've seen that same thing in horses and dogs. And now this little guy.. I hope he's going to be fine soon. Just watch for impaction. Hopefully he's on his way to full recovery and he'll have a long ànd loving life with you Kenàn.

[@mollywood6063]

I think Bobby will make a full recovery

[@grogu5453]

Madi and step-dad here, sending our prayers your way!

[@KampKenan]

🙏🤠

[@belizeguy]

Hang in there Bobby! Hoping for the best!