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[@dr.buzzvonjellar8862]

One of the hardest things in life is finding the place where you can truly excel and do exceptional work. It’s not so much about working hard as finding a situation where working hard makes a difference.

[@makingtechsense126]

And finding a place where when you work hard the other workers don't get butt-hurt about your excellence. There is almost nothing worse than doing the best work in the company to only be black-balled and shunned because it puts everyone else's mediocre work in the spotlight.

[@jimlovesgina]

Working hard makes no difference in a union shop. You are paid the same as the worst slacker in the shop no matter how hard you work. This is why I despise unions.

[@Micscience]

That is so true Dr. Buzz but also Making TechSense is right on the money. People hate us who try hard.

[@Stop-and-listen]

Wonderful words.

[@cho4d]

dude that is so true

[@gregsettle9725]

Sounds like your boss didn't want his shop to be "too productive" as everyone would think the job is "easy-peasy". I learned early in my career as a software engineer to never tell a manager something is a "No Brainer".

[@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit]

It used to be "Don't break the rate" in assembly, but its the same idea. Don't be the guy who comes in and does in 5, what was done in 20, for the sake of the people on the floor. It raises expectations, and comes at the cost of being hated. Some people just wanna be in the slow herd cause its easy.

[@Angerdomeable]

@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit The only reward for good work is more work. Why go out of your way to try harder and break your back over a job where if you were to double productivity they would pay you the same and give you more work on top of that?

[@arakwar]

@@Angerdomeable WHen the reward is only more work, then yes, 100% agree. When the company shares profit properly with their employees, and will give raises based on performance, that's a different story. BUT, never litteraly break your back for a job, even if they pay you millions. Health is more important.

[@Md2802]

@@Angerdomeable Being part of a conspiracy to half-ass a job is the most demoralising thing in the world - especially in a skilled trade like machining. Working efficiently not only keeps you engaged in the work, it sharpens your machining skills - which you can use to negotiate for better pay, or use to get a job at a better company. That's what professionals do. The shops full of lazy workers who inflate costs with inefficient practices, and chase-away the people who try to improve the situation, don't survive. And when they go insolvent, their floor guys don't have the skills or stamina to compete for good machining jobs. Sure, some larger companies can limp-along for years before going under - long enough for their old-timers to retire - but if you're under 50 and find yourself in a small protectionist shop, you're fucked.

[@shiraz1736]

I think his boss may not have been the owner and the new guy was a threat to his job.

[@rainmannoodles]

“Not every machinist is going to fit into a certain mold” They’re obviously out of spec.

[@Max50ww]

You’re 100% correct in my opinion. I used to sell carbide tooling. Sometimes I could cut cycle time by 50% but if my insert was 50 cents more than brand X the plant manager wasn’t having any. It was maddening.

[@asillynertasillynert2204]

Yeah had a job doing press operator each job took 1-3hrs and it could be up to 30 minutes setup depending on how complicated if we had to move clamps around etc. Boss insisted we do jobs by "priority order" no matter what. Problem being that meant every single job we had to do another setup. BUT if we did it by priority by "finish date" only aka Jobs that needed to be done Tuesday do we could cut out 3-4 setups a day and have to change out tooling much less. The other frustrating part is by doing individual order priority instead of finish date. They left same time end of day so it changes absolutely nothing. As well as fact we were running 3 machines so individual prioritys would often take same tooling. Which we didn't have enough to run same setup on 3 machines. So were constantly having to do asinine setups that should take 2 pieces to setup and using a dozen 4-6 inch pieces of tooling instead of one 22 inch piece. Which since tooling wears differently each piece added makes overall bend wavier and less consistent and take more time to dial in.

[@jamegumb7298]

price ≠ cost

[@i_might_be_lying]

It seem to be the case in all the industries. People don't like changes. People hate or afraid of changes. And when the person at the helm is the type to use "feelings" exclusively instead of the hard data to run the company, those types of companies are a hell to work in for people who like to get things done and do that efficiently.

[@zealousbeing0178]

Exactly. By all means do I work in a source of force where this is the case. Most people talking most of the time, nothing efficient, pay's awful, conditions just as bad, consideration for those who truly work for what they want get no reimbursement, esc. The list goes on, and it's sickening

[@zealousbeing0178]

@val milos Yep, that is most definitely true for places. But my place, just want parts. Quantity over the quality. Yet I can pull through with the quantity and quality. I try to work as efficient as can be and fast as can be. I top over others in terms of how much quantity there is. Quality, I could almost say the same for.

[@resspls10k]

Yep. I worked in wholesale, at a business importing parts from China and reselling them on the European market. Frequently we faced quality issues which could've been easily solved in new production runs, but most Chinese factories aren't interested in what you have to say unless you're the one paying them the money. Many times I've therefore tried to convince our purchasing department to change from their "just continue to buy parts, even if they have quality issues" mentality to conditional orders "we will buy again, if problem X gets solved". That would improve our product thus better brand reputation, saving customer service complaints, reducing returns. What's not to like? But "nope, don't get in my way, kid, this is the way we're doing it". In the end, I grew tired of receiving complaints over and over for which I had already presented the fixes but no-one cared (even as simple as cold solder joints) so I quit and took my knowledge elsewhere.

[@zealousbeing0178]

@@resspls10k Agreed. I don't intend on remaining in the place I reside currently. Because the atmosphere in general is just awful. A waste of my time in a place like that, yes I did learn things. But not with the accompanied time I had to waste having those certain people that wouldn't say anything say something. Just today I was thrown on a bar-feed and a lathe, walking back and forth constantly. I think my back isn't happy after all that. Once I get into a tier 1 shop, it'll be muchhhhh better from there. Better pay, better care, cleaner environment, they'll actually teach what they know and how. Esc, All you have to do is teach me and I'll do it. I can do bar-feed, lathes, mills, all of that sham. As long as you show me some basics and ropes, I go from there and only get more and more better.

[@patrickhamelc1902]

Change=effort people=lazy

[@Vaquero4382]

I've worked with guys like that. One couldn't understand why he kept breaking drill bits in a stainless part. I increased his spindle speed to where they were supposed to be but as soon as I turned my back, he slowed it down again because he was afraid. These were the same guys that preferred 304L to 304 SS because "that leaded stainless machines easier." I started to tell them that wasn't what the "L" stood for and that the machinabilty index was actually lower, but then I thought better of it and left them in their ignorance.

[@johnbell1396]

I've done that a few times in my life. It's rewarding.

[@Md2802]

Ha! Tell them to use 304LN - because it's "Low Noise" and doesn't chatter.

[@brantleyanderson6807]

In my second year in machining at college, my instructor told us one of the places they toured had a shop floor rule of two IPM. My instructor asked them “how the h*ll do you guys make any money?” They said it was a safety rule. They didn’t finish that tour, he rounded up all the groups, went back on to the bus and off to the next shop to tour. He told them “forget anything those guys told you.”

[@SteelJM1]

Jeez, even as a person who knows very little about machining that seems incredibly slow.

[@brantleyanderson6807]

SteelJM1 it is. To the point where you’re putting unnecessary wear on your tools.

[@Ian_Wallace.]

That's absurd, heck, I regularly hand feed faster than that on a manual mill, like 10-12ipm

[@Sketch1994]

@@Ian_Wallace. Whenever I hand feed it's anywhere from full feed (630mm/min) to rapid (2500mm/min)

[@siedpe13]

I used to run a 25yo CNC machine in 2015 built for cutting out stone countertops. Ran a 22mm end mill cutting through 3cm stone slabs, 6krpm. It ran dos and used floppy drives. It got so wore out the whole head would tilt visibly from the gantry. When I started the machine could do 8ipm for the most part. By the time it was scrapped it was still going faster than 2ipm, usually

[@DC_ABC_123]

I spent years as an inspector for an aerospace shop. These guys had management all over them to get parts out fast and jobs would end up in piles outside inspection because the main inspector spent 90% of his time bullshitting instead of checking parts. I put an end to that.

[@erich6860]

I was the final inspector for 2 years in my shop. I met production around 60-70% of the time, and missed it by 1-4 the other times. (12 hour shift, 40 parts by end of shift). I was responsible for cleaning, installing parts, pressure testing, and inspection, and packing. I constantly got crap for not making production every night. However, my parts was clean, I mean clean enough to lick the inspection filter, and in 2 years not one part ever came back with my name on it. My counterparts on days and the other night shift guy (we worked 4 on 4 off), had parts come back by the truckload all the F'ing time. These people did not do their job, and just pushed crap through without cleaning, assembly, and testing properly. It was infuriating because I knew how they did it, I refused to do it, and got sh*t on by the leadership and bad raises at review.

[@3-2-1-.]

@@erich6860 A lot of us have been there and done that, brother! I'd wager your personal shop looks a lot better than they guys who did the bad work. That kind of behavior crosses all kinds of life lines. We are now Old School. Congratulations! Yell at some dumb kids! When someone needs something done right, they will come to you.

[@michaelbaker8284]

@@erich6860 It scares me what it going on with the management class. They are Soviet tier terrible. We have a whole shift of guys that are so incompetent that they cause up to 20,000 dollars extra scrap per month. And no one does anything about it.

[@Red81Camaro]

I have been in this trade for over 20 yrs. I swear you just told my story. Unfortunately I never had the opportunity to open my own shop and just keep plugging along to satisfy my need to do better, whether management appreciated it or not.

[@kyleb.6756]

I was in machining for 15 years..got sick of corner cutting, lowered safety standards to meet production quotas, and insane part per hour schedules...moved into precision assembly work, mostly with prototyping..i still do all the machining I could want but my job is to prove engineering concepts, not mass produce. Love it.

[@michaelfields714]

And this is how you work yourself and your co-workers right out of a job!

[@metalextras]

Thank you for sharing the encouraging experience Titan! Boom!

[@nathaniellangston5130]

I have the very best boss on the planet! The guy is planning to retire and I've been trying to come up with any possible way to keep him there!!

[@hadleytorres8171]

I understand your dilemma, I've lost great supervisors too. But he's doing the right thing. How many dinosaurs do you know that should have retired years ago, but stay there taking up space and not spreading the knowledge? I have a biased opinion there though. My theory as to why the trades are hurting as bad as they are for new hands is because of old hands pushing them out, and not being the mentor that an apprentice needs. A Journeyman has 2 jobs, one is the work at hand, and one is to teach the dew claw. The old dudes made it hard when I busted in to my trade for me to learn anything without breaking my dick. They came from a time that you keep what you know and fuck the next guy in line, there were more workers than jobs then. But as time has gone by the tide shifted and now companies can't find help. I know plenty of guys who work on a computer now because they could never get into a niche doing trade work and much of it was due to no upward or even forward mobility.

[@magigooter2096]

Lol. Don't be that guy. Let the man retire. A lot of people out there never will, so let him enjoy it.

[@drmodestoesq]

@@hadleytorres8171 That's why the human race has so many family businesses. Who has a problem teaching their nephew or younger cousin everything they need to know to provide for their family?

[@hadleytorres8171]

@@drmodestoesq nepotism isn't great but you have a good point.

[@verstappa]

We tried this. We started removing massive amount of material per single pass and it was so huge stress to the machine, we had service guy fixing the machines alot.

[@michaelbaker8284]

Something a new machinist wouldn't understand. Some of these machines are old or are already under a lot of stress and all sorts of things are always malfunctioning. You don't want to push things faster than you have to.

[@drmodestoesq]

Babying crappy old tools is a subtle but essential skill set. Who can afford brand new tools and equipment in this day and age? Driving your ten year old car like it's a rental would be the perfect analogy.

[@SergeantExtreme]

@@drmodestoesq Opposite analogy. Drive your ten year old car the *opposite* of how you would drive a rental. Quoting Jeremy from Top Gear: "The fastest car in the world is a rental car." -Jeremy Clarkson

[@robbieanderson649]

Sometimes lightening up on the depth of cut and increasing the feed rate can actually decrease run times dramatically. And also increase tool life . It’s also easier on the motors and ball screws Happy machining everyone

[@davidthomas4325]

Man your shop is the ideal. So fresh, so clean. Look at dem sparks. You dangerous, that is a compliment.

[@eyeballdude]

This happened to my brother in-law also. He had no schooling in running CNC machines but he’s a tech nerd and he got a chance at this machine shop. After a month, trying to wrap his head around each step from writing programs to running a CNC lathe, he started to look at what the machine is capable of and what the tools are capable of. Not long after he cut down machine times, like the guy in the video, from mid 30’s to under 10minutes. It’s like people get comfortable and don’t want to improve to become better! “Good enough” is “good enough”.

[@alexanderswander8176]

I am studying to become a mechanical engineer, I just want to say thank you for these videos!

[@scottkinkead6324]

I was written up for getting the most out of a program , even though it was running fine was told I wasn't the programmer to witch I said apparently the guy your paying to program isn't much of one either .

[@greeneyesfromohio4103]

😂😂

[@FluffRat]

Yeah, man, I feel this comment. I once got a write-up for adding a freaking N number so I could reference the exact line to the programming department. "But what if somebody wanted to start the program at N9, they might accidentally type N9999 instead and it would start there." -My fool of a supervisor at that company.

[@michaelsavard1144]

Great message, my 20 years running a company says its true. Thanks for the great video!

[@norwegiangadgetman]

The way I see it, there are machinists, and there are button pushers.

[@chrishagerty5467]

wow i have been in this position and ended up switching shops over and over until i landed where i am now. with a boss who is more open to change and suggestions then anyone i have ever met. and on top of that all the guys in the shop love new ideas that move us forward. its always been a pet peeve of mine watching guys intentionally slow machines down just so they could sit around and do nothing during the long cycle times. if i do end up with a long cycle time on a huge part i start setting up and programming a second machine and sometimes even a third or a fourth machine. my company takes amazing care of me i am blessed to work where i do doing what i do. so ever day i do my best to show them i deserve this job. and its that attitude that has served me well in life.

[@superwilcox9026]

Know the feeling. When lazy workers are the majority they like to screw over the ones who actually care or work hard since it makes them look bad

[@microcolonel]

I feel similar about my trajectory in software. I've worked on so many teams where work ended up on the floor because the team was only trying to get paid, and not interested in delivering a finished product; and a lot of the time that attitude came from clients paying for work that they expected to throw away. I always detested that, and I would try to make my teams more efficient and reasonable; now I run a team and it is doing the things I'd hoped for. We don't follow industry dogma for its own sake, we write our own, and it is my proudest, cleanest, fastest work yet. :+ )

[@MrScienceMaths]

Very nicely said titan, every ones paradigm of thinking/acting is different, it is clear your paradigm is a lot more larger/bigger hence giving rise to greater efficiency/productivity without sacrificing quality! Love you Titan!

[@jeremypatton8976]

I'd say after hearing the whole story I agree with your manager. He allowed you to use your custom program, but didn't want to push it onto people who weren't ready for it. If he'd said you aren't allowed to run it this way, I'd agree with you. But he acknowledged your ability by letting you do this. Often times people in those positions are machine operators, not machinists, and they may not have been at your skill level. It may also embolden inexperienced operators to make their own adjustments without your knowledge. I don't know the guy and never worked with him, but from what you told us here it didn't seem toxic. I've had many more managers tell me that I wasn't allowed to alter any machine settings at all.

[@ssjwes]

I had the same exact experience. I was on night shift and ran things hot and the boss told me to not leave it that way on shift change because he didn't trust the guy running behind me not to crash the machine.

[@tomcapon4447]

If he's doing 6x as many parts in day shift as they used, why they even need night shift anymore? 🤣

[@AlienRelics]

@@tomcapon4447 Exactly.

[@Turboy65]

Some people are the biggest obstacle to their own progress.

[@MrBstnredsoxfan34]

I actually just got a complaint from our weekend shift that it was dangerous to remove as much material as I was and it was loading the spindle to 74%. The standard here is .125 doc and 60% step over, I was doing full slotting .500 deep with .75 em. This same crew also slows everything down to 70% also, some of them turn it down at the machine and others change it in the program, so frustrating

[@philipdamask2279]

Great example! Best of good fortune and stay safe. Continue to pursue productity improvements. Those that do not will get left behind.

[@scottmarshall6766]

Sad, but as an industrial controls consultant for many years, I've seen it over and over. Even the food processing industry has it. I rewrote a Hayssen packaging machine program once to increase the rate to 60 bags/min from 4 bags/min (1lb potato chip finseal bags) with Better reliability and less overpack to boot, and the only time we could run it is when I or the packaging room manager was present. Same basic story.

[@rmkscrambler]

I used to have a supervisor who would put an M0 before the last retraction in a program so at the end of the program the spindle would stay down and running along with coolant. That way if he was off BS'ing and the boss walked through he would think the machine was running.

[@stevenconnor4221]

Haha I used to work with an ex Rolls Royce eng. Who would put the feed on and cut fresh air in the lathe every Friday morning whilst the rest of us were talking nonsense to each other, reading his paper and drinking his tea at the lathe. The boss would look at him he said just doing another pass on such and such but he would be angry at us for not machining anything .😂 we made the correlation after a few weeks of that needless to say.

[@Pablo668]

I’m an oldish school machinist, or was, I went into teaching. Never did much cnc-ing. My only qualm here is wear and tear on the tools (how many parts produced before replacement) and on the machine Winding things up is all well and good but can the tools and the machine take it? Now in terms of modern cnc and tools I’m sure they can, though one place I worked at I witnessed them working a cnc mill way past its limits, it sounded awful. I also had to put up with bosses putting the latest tools into older machines that could not take the forces generated by running at the required speeds and feeds. Times like that made me happy to leave the industry.

[@mike-ology22]

Thanks for sharing mate. I like your style and brutal honesty. Some of us really enjoy engineering and the way things work. Some of us also have the ability to fine tune our work and make it more efficient. I've too also come to learn that there is no point doing this for a boss, they don't care. They don't like people who are smarter than them, when all we want to do is help :) Take care and all the best

[@jbskaggs7200]

As a business owner with a lot different businesses let me give you another side. I didnt hire people to do things their way, its my business not theirs. Whether they are faster better slower whatever it is my call not theirs. Instead of calling someone a cancer for the boss doing things how he wants, just be thankful for the job. Then go and start your own business. Which you eventually did 5 months later. In my businesses it is my money, my methods, my tools and if you are the employee I make the decisions and I hire a person for a job- not my advisor, not buddy, not as my boss. Im the one who pays the insurance, finances the risk, and must live with the consequences. When a machine breaks and an employee is killed or maimed it is me that carries that liability not the "know it all" employee. If you want your boss to listen to you earn the right to be heard or leave if you dont like it. But now that you have your own business lets see how you like it, when machinists you hire decides your way is wrong when they aint got as penny at risk in your business save their time you are paying them for

[@themadmachinist8637]

I'm not allowed to do that. I can. I've spent the last 20 years of my life mastering this trade but because of compartmentalization I'm not allowed to touch programs anymore. I definitely feel underutilized here.

[@patientmental875]

So your basically putting a piece of metal in & pressing start?

[@themadmachinist8637]

@@patientmental875 at this point yes. I can feel my skills going to rust as we type.

[@garygriffin3114]

Hello Titan, Sounds just like when I started my job,. Long runs on a mold I would ask for prints for other parts so I could at least run the seldom used CNC lathe I remember my boss would become used to just me running 2 and later 3 machines at the same time when they got me another small CNC. My coworker would comment how my next boss would come to me with the hot jobs while he was reading a newspaper while his machine was crawling along. I never regretted it I always pushed myself. 23 years later corporate office on our newest union contract thinks I make too much money as the only Tool and Die Maker / CNC machinist at our plant . Went from a very busy mold shop with 9 people to just me.

[@johnaustin9051]

Unfortunately, this is common in most trades. I was actually "let go" from a small shop because of using a more efficient technique on jobs. My boss was confronted by his boss about our differences. Was a family shop. I lost. My former colleagues said they changed to a more efficient approach upon my departure. My technique. No worries, I just moved on, they eventually shut down. Bosses and engineers, are gawddamn enigmas.

[@xBloodXGusherx]

That pisses me off how you can come to a place, present a new efficient idea, they FIRE you and then use YOUR idea. I hate insecurity in humanity.

[@Rick.Fleischer]

Ahhh, the family shop.

[@doczenith5491]

The problem is the manager he was dealing with was exactly right. Most metal workers are dumbasses and that’s why they are metal workers. The manager new he was different/more intelligent and actually let him deviate from the rest of the shop. He was clearly a good manager who knew the capabilities of his men and how far they could be pushed before a breakdown in production occurred.

[@msgmatt2674]

Well, 30 something years ago I was doing the same thing at my shop where I was running a Hurco MB1. Changing to carbide, adjusting S & F, I was running 12 parts per hour, the other shifts where running 3-4. Holding tighter tolerance and better finish, the "seasoned " operators didnt like carbide tools and weren't willing to learn.

[@bigboybuilder]

As a new maintenance manager there were 2 injection molding presses that we were changing pumps (6 each machine 3-gear 3 smart) as fast as we could get them shipped in. When I started looking at pressure and speeds, I noticed that almost all pressures were maxed out and the speeds were set low which caused them to have to tie the doors shut (uncontrollable accel/decel). the clamp in particular was set to call for 3000 psi pump pressure and then limited to 10 inches a second speed, during the 40-50 inches the mold moved, After I fiddled with it I had it moving at 30IPS with only 800 PSI pump pressure. the clamp moved so fast the second shift operator ran away the first time he saw it open, it was that way on all machines I.E. 2500PSI to pull ejector pins back jerking the end off of 1 inch hydraulic cylinders and so on. So, IMHO don't hold your machines back or it could cost you more than time.

[@marcusweeding5233]

Thank you so much for sharing!! we think alike!! I thought I was the only one thinking like that!!

[@riccardodigiuni3943]

Your energy is so incredible! Your videos motivate so enormously!

[@IceWolF963]

I feel you My boss is a mix of both slow and fast it's like when he is in the mood for it

[@SpadeNya]

This is exactly the situation that I found myself in after only 3 years. I found the same situation in every shop in my locale until I switched to mechanics. Lo and behold, they don't want to pay you for your worth there.

[@AlienRelics]

This happens in all industries. I have been doing electronics repair my entire life, and have worked in many shops as both contract labor and an employee. No one was interested in anything I did that made my job faster and more accurate. Sometimes they'd even try and stop me from using those methods and equipment, even though I proved myself, my procedures, and my equipment each time. "But we've always done it that way!" I have gotten a lot less of that pushback on my current job. The boss has changed procedures based on my input. I have built jigs and fixtures that my coworkers also use. Mostly. One coworker isn't interested in anything he didn't read in the manual or come up with himself.

[@OtherDalfite]

What kind of items do you work on? Electronics-specialized guy here in a big company, but I'm pigeon-holed as a testing engineer.

[@jeremyking2855]

Thank you for these videos. I thoroughly enjoy them and have picked up a lot of knowledge and insight from you sharing your experiences. You are an absolute inspiration Titan, and truly motivational person. I think people can learn a lot from your attitude, even if they aren't in the cnc industry. Love it. Keep up the phenomenal work.

[@smokefentanyl]

This guy deserves everything he’s ever put his mind to and continues to make happen. I want to be like you Titan

[@OnfloorAudio]

Very cool story i just listened too here . I'm not from the Machining industry , but i can so relate to his story . Titan knew he could do better , and did so elsewhere .

[@M4rt1nX]

So inspiring. When I was working as an operator, I spent a lot of time reading the manuals and I learned to master the equipment. I improve a lot of my process but my employers didn't care about it and weren't interested in it either. I left but I still miss working with machines. There are so few who can truly understand the beauty of CNC.

[@GeneralG1810]

So someone who doesn’t know anything about machining says it “looks” dangerous and made the decision to go slow because they don’t know anything about the trade.

[@machinists-shortcuts]

Great video, trying new techniques is so rewarding when you reduce a cycle time by a massive amount. I devised a tandem milling technique that reduced a cycle time from 8 minutes to 42 seconds. By using tooling in new ways and rethinking programming, one tool did the job of 3. Please have a look at tandem milling and chamfering 28 pieces in 42 seconds, hopefully it may save you some cycle time. Subscribed.

[@jrb_sland5066]

I'm now retired {more or less} from a different field of work {designing & constructing electronic scientific instruments, some now in orbit around Earth 14 times a day !} but I can sympathize with your situation. People get lazy & lose their natural urge to improve. My business partner & I were hungry in the mid-1980s, and we figured out how to make our machines in our home basements, not in a high-overhead formal office/factory. Result - we sold our instruments all over the world for 30 years, based only on word-of-mouth... He & I are now in our mid-70s, but we're still actively scheming about how to do these things faster & better & cheaper, and mentoring younger gals & guys as they face similar, but more modern, roadblocks & hurdles. Keep up the good work, & stay sane. This is ordinary evolution in action. The old farts go out of business, & the new kids step up to the plate. Everyone, world-wide, benefits thereafter...

[@TheCoomer]

The Boss was right, if the Night shift were from the old way of Machining the would be unaware on just how fast you can push these machines today. If he suggested that with training the other staff could be shown the new programme then implemented it across the company then this would have been reasonable. If however he didn't suggest this then I would have moved

[@kingult]

I actually understand the boss's viewpoint. Hyper efficiency just isn't always necessary and not everyone can handle it. Depends on what the business owner wants and what the machinists want. Gotta balance work with people.

[@countryjoe3551]

If someone can't handle running an efficient program on a machining center, they need to go back to work at the McDonald's drive thru window. I used to run 3 VMCs simultaneously, all different brands of machines, all running different parts. It's not all that tough if you're a halfway decent machine operator.

[@kingult]

@@countryjoe3551 well, need? Do they really? Like I said, hyper efficiency just isn't always required. Nothing wrong with fast and nothing wrong with slow. What is required is very much contextual.

[@VTF5252]

@@countryjoe3551 Drive through window is more stressful, more fast paced, more emphasis on timing, and more yelling than any machine shop and all for lower pay. Fast food is easily a harder job in terms of stress than machining. There is a lot more mental effort and training in machining but a lot less stress.

[@8833eherunguenstig]

I know this cancer. I experieced it by my self, I also reduced the cuting time to a third at many parts by using the correct parameter for the tools. My coworkers where feared and at their shifts, they used the old parameters and they said to the boss it breaks the machine 😂

[@rosewhite---]

Many years ago I told a machine vice company to start making an extendend vice with stops so that two small parts could be loaded about 150 mm apart so that the program for the first could then lift, move 150 mm and do the other part. Idiot said 'Who would sell them for us!'

[@davidthomas4325]

Omfg! Not to sell dummy,. Then you shook your head right?

[@rosewhite---]

@@davidthomas4325 I had said that as CNC were getting common it was silly to use a single vice when a double could really speed things up but I was ignored. Most bosses and managers are infected with the 'Not Invented Here' Syndrome that makes them automatically refuse anything from outsiders no matter how big the potential market.

[@rosewhite---]

@@davidthomas4325I once did a few months at a company making gearbox selector forks of malleable iron. We checked everything with plug gauges or snap gauges and two of us ran five CNC that made 8 parts each every 20 minutes or 120 an hour. Went into work one day to find all gauges had been removed and we had to check each part in the shiny new CMM withRenisham tips. It was so slow it took nearly an hour to check 30 forks. Other 90 forks had to be thrown away as customer wouldn't accept any non-CMMed. Businesses can't survive if they throw out 75% of production that was suddenly unacceptable even though tolerances were quite low.

[@svenboelling5251]

I am unfortunately for 10 years sick and unable to work, depression, PTSD and that direction. The work, especially the working hours and a psychopath as a supervisor had given me the rest. Originally we were both at the CNC and at the laptop to program, and he taught me all that. Within a few years, we had pushed each other to the limit and the company was making millions. Not least because we worked 6-7 days a week, sometimes up to 16 hours a day, and the machines ran unattended all night until we got back in the morning. Depending on whether we had programs that took several hours. What I wanted to say is, in any case, morbid ambition can destroy, as well as lack of ambition. I couldn’t work for a month in a company where so much time and money are wasted. Nor in a company that burns people like slaves. Anyway, it was prototyping and we made the injection molds. Within almost 3 years I had seen over 1000 articles running by, this speed alone makes you sick. Well...I'd like to have the joy of work back, but that probably won't happen again. Anyway, nice video and keep your joy at work, teasing the last possibilities out of the machines is an art that few can master. It just occurred to me that the old rockets used in the moon landings can no longer be manufactured? Because there are no longer workers with the necessary skills. And because the plans are incomplete, too many details have not even been written down because they were only added during manufacture by the workers. Sorry for my English, if something is wrong, I want to say pass on your knowledge to others so that it doesn't get lost. And be it just how to properly hold a file in your hand. Humanity is going dumb right now. Greetings from Germany

[@adamrubinger2644]

I once had a boss, owner of the company, in the industry for 30 plus years with some of the biggest names as clients. We worked on parts that were shipped from customers all over the planet. I told him about a only few hundred dollar portable tool that could cut a 4-5 hour job at least in half.. He told me those are for backyard mechanics... That shop probably misses using all my "backyard tools". Believe me I took every bit of them when I left. Including several of MY personal tools that got turned into shop use.

[@jedibusiness789]

It’s never about equipment, only what’s between one’s ears.

[@meawreg]

In Hawai'i I've noticed there's a lot of contractors who don't return phone calls or miss appointments. If I have the opportunity, I plan to change that.

[@mpccenturion]

Not a machinist. Just a guy who has spent 47 yrs fixing stuff. I love the attitude you project. I challenged myself, but changing one thing - every day - for the better. I enjoy the paths you present - to success - in the stories you share. I have broken a lot of things and fixed or built a better fix in the end. My rule was either it was fixed to better than new - or broken in such a way it was trash. Thank you! Cheers!

[@greyeagle8474]

Worked at a place for ten years they loved to keep me down mind you i did learn the trade from some very smart men. Had to move states went to another place they were like you are legit put me on the biggest horizontal running all super alloys blew my mind . I know a guy who in his life worked at 43 different shops he was a old timer who could run anything he ran a 5 axis floor mill 400in x travel 30,000lb parts he said it was the reason he got good was experiencing new people new shops everyone does it different.

[@stevematson4808]

As an industrial machine repairman with a lot of experience in many different shops, I can tell you this - many managers dumb-down and slow down progress to their own level. And if you over perform YOU will be punished.

[@drmodestoesq]

Work glacially slow for years....no problem. Work fast and make the company lots of money and cause one problem in 3 years...you're the guy who's always causing problems.

[@shanemcdowell4852]

I know this sentiment very well. I'm trying to get out of where I'm at now and move on to bigger and better. Hoping to have my own shop some day.

[@AshenTechDotCom]

i had a boss like that, he wasnt happy when i went over his head after he tried to make people revert to a much slower, inefficent and, honestly problematic (to be kind) workflow he came up with himself... stuff would get lost, sometimes taking days to find or have to have re-made to ship out to clients... im not a machinist, but i was an operator for a while, and when he was out of town for a month, we reworked the workflow with the supervisor who was taking the idiots place, when the idiot came back and realized things hand changed he had a hissy fit, demanded we go back to his way, i said 'ok boss' then went and talked to the owner, his boss... who had complimented our work when he was gone, our changes were fairly minor overall but, when you re-order things so that stuff goes into orders as its finished and checked, rather then putting stuff on a big table then figuing out what goes in what order after all the orders parts are all completed... oh and only hand checking parts AFTER all the parts are done so if something needs re-made... you gotta set the machine up to make it again... the changes we made, mostly at my and one other fellows suggestions, but with input from other operators, from both shifts, the new work flow stayed, the boss... eventually had a blowup and took a swing at the owner, who realized he smelled booze on his breath...and had the cops come collect him... we ended up without a direct supervisor for the next 2 years... the owner saw no need to have somebody babysit us when we worked well and did good at training new people... those of us who did more got a raise but... nobody was upset by it... when i started having health issues and couldnt work anymore, i had been both working as one of their IT guys and working on the floor when it was needed... part of why the owner said he listened to some of us more then the rest... we showed we gave a shit, like when we would see the floor slammed with orders and would come help as systems did things like updates going back and forth.. and he always paid for that when he noticed and he always noticed because, he wasnt your typical boss/owner, he always jumped in when things got hairy... and helped... including knowing where to get/stay out of the way and just let the people who knew their/our jobs do them.. great guy... i ended up getting a buddies son a job when i was headed out, he had to learn to slow down and listen better, but, its his first non-fast food/retail type job so... but he had the skills needed to do the IT side stuff well enough, and the mechanical side, hes a quick learner... took his sister 3 days to teach him to weld as well as she learned to over 6months of schooling... (she both brags and complains about it, you see the pride, and annoyance in her over it..), "he just has the knack", his sr project in highschool was an old car he found in a collapsing barn, and got the sherif to help him get ownership and the owner of the lands permission to remove it... they found it when playing with a remote control helicopter (harder to fly then a drone/quad copter but... alot of fun as well.... ), the wind kicked up and they had to bring it down in the field the barn was in... turned out the owners gave him 3 other vehicles in the barn that were harder to get out but, the local fire dept actually agreed to help clear anything of value out, in exchange they were allowed to use it for training and burn the collapsing structure.. everybody went home with something old, the rest ended up in the truck on one of the cars... the one he got running... that needed ALOT of work... old 57 chevy... pink wagon... the seats needed re-done, alot of work was needed on the drivetrane and suspension.... he was shocked when i rebuilt the carburator for him...and... then realized i had rebuild the carb for him.... (the stuff was there and he had started it but... i duno i just auto-do stuff sometimes....it was an easy rebuild... when i handed it to him... and he looked at his father who...chuckled and told him...that even if i did it without realizing it...he had no doubt it would work...turned out...i even kept a couple springs the kit had replacements for, because the old ones were actually far better and in no way worn...) when in around 15min me and his dad got the engine fully running after he got the carb on it... he took so many notes... we arnt even gear heads but those one engines are so..simple compared to all electronic shit today... when he asked how i learned this " uncle, bio father, and self taught " he was shocked... the kid actually changed carriers... hes an automotive machinist these days working at a shop that specializes in oddball engines, both rotary and non-rortary designs, stuff other places dont tend to want to work on, or know how to do it properly... hes got an RX7 he got got 150usd, because "the engines blown"... naa..the apex seals were work to shit... but... we helped rebuild that one for him... the mazda shop he does alot of work for now, the owner stopped by, looked over the engine and told him to take back all but the seals and springs the rest looked in excellent shape the barings were excellent... infact... he insisted on helping rebuild it... then told the kid to bring it in, and if he did the work/helped do the work, one day a week they would help him get it "tricked out"... it dosnt use oil pan oil to lube the engine anymore its got a res full of some 2 cycle oil that tested out as the best option back in the day, the fact they had the engine block drilled and put re-enforcements in.. and several other mods, that things been his daily driver for over a decade now... hes not had to tare the engine down once in all that time... though, the mazda shop does want him to let them strip it down and replace the seals if only, because they are getting old... he told me he will prob let them do it when they finish his wifes now roatary powered geo sprint turbo..the original engine had a crack wide enough for your thumb when somebody gave him the car......turns out...you can use a turbo off a geo sprint on a rotary.. not that its all that great but...they had to try... LOL... they got it installed and working only to have a couple other parts fail...but those should be installed by now and so...i bet his cars in the shop since they do work for him "on the side" to this day...(and he does stuff for them thats off the clock at his work, like block drilling he automated the process, same for milling blocks on a few more...odd engines....like bmw/mini cooper engines nobody wants to do a head job on...hell he says they have done 8 on the same car a fellow on here did one on, and he says they sell the thicker gasket kit for a reason... and they have had zero complaints about their rebuilds.... and his boss is fine with it... they pay for what they use... and... he finely got an RX8 thanks to their help... (engine was in bad shape...but...the mazda shop and his employee sorted that out in a few weeks time... he decided he didnt want to do an LS swap on it... since after some mods... the rotary has been reliable... even after a pretty extensive rebuild... )

[@makingtechsense126]

I work in Information Technology. Early in my career I was scripting the deployment of a config file for the business analysts at the company. I made an error at one point and fixed it. The error deployed an incorrect file to a handful of people and there was only around 10 minutes where the wrong file was deployed. One employee happened to call the config file in that ten minute period and contacted the helpdesk. I got the ticket and resolved it immediately, because the issue was already fixed, and explained what happened to the user. The user contacted my boss and complained (which is completely ridiculous on its own). My boss called me in and yelled at me for using scripting since scripting is dangerous. He told me to never script anything again. My boss was an absolute idiot. I kept scripting and simply didn't make any more mistakes before I found another job.

[@gregorymeyer8863]

While I am not a machinist Titan some of us who work in other industries need your pep talks to keep going they really help me Thank You

[@standodge5536]

I don't know of any other CNC channels that are as good as yours. You did the right thing in making it on your own. Thanks for putting these videos out there for us to watch.

[@johnholmes4960]

Titan, you are my hero. I had a VF-3 SS and I loved that machine. When I paired my haas with my Trumpf laser, and my cnc press brake......that proved my theory. I cut the part on my laser first. Did a second operation on my haas. Then did a third operation forming on my cnc brake. Then did a fourth operation back on the mill. Then I retired. With CNC machine tools.....your only limit is your imagination.

[@SGIABC]

I started working for a small manufacturing company right out of trade school as a production machinist. Common phrases used from management when I suggested a more aggressive style of machining, "We've been doing it like this for 30 years and it's worked perfectly." "Why change what's not broken?". I was running a Doosan PUMA 400M. We had an 3.5"D x 24"L spindle (1144 stressproof) that had quite a bit of turn work on it. We were required to turn 4.5 parts per hour to meet the company's standard. By changing the depth of cut to .100" from .03", increasing the roughing feed to .016"/rev. from .01" and the surface speed from 400 to 600 (SECO CNMG432 M3 TP2501) I could machine 15 per hour with better insert life. My boss noticed and gave me the same line. No gratitude for saving the company money, just; "If you make changes to the program, be sure to load the original back before 1st shift comes in."

[@jedibusiness789]

If the boss trained entire 1st shift in your method, they wouldn’t need a night crew.

[@SGIABC]

@@jedibusiness789 The company had thousands of different parts to run that would easily keep both shifts busy. But your point is still valid. If they would stop babying their machines, they could dramatically reduce the time to assembly. This one part alone we would run 2-3,000 of in one setup. Would take weeks to run. Why tie up a machine for longer than necessary? You know.

[@greeneyesfromohio4103]

@@SGIABC - I’m a rookie machinist but I really need to learn machine shop numbers….because I go by what I was taught in school, tenths, hundredths and thousandths spot…but shop numbers are not read the same. Why is that?

[@SGIABC]

@@greeneyesfromohio4103 They aren't any different than what I was taught in school. But the language can sometimes be confusing. Often times we use the word "Tenths" to designate the 3rd decimal place. But this is simply an abbreviation for Ten-Thousandths. Machine shop lingo simply breaks everything down into thousandths of an inch to describe a given digit. For an example 1.574356" would be written one inch, five-hundred seventy-four thousandths, three tenths and fifty-six millionths. Hope this helps.

[@beardly0121]

I just got a job at a machine shop. I'm just a material sorter right now but they're going to train me to be a machinist. I'm excited to learn this trade!

[@moonryder203]

Yeah very familiar to my journey also. It is so frustrating how so many people just hate change. They rather make time to talk and walk around than learn but complain because they haven’t gotten a raise, I wonder why.

[@666monster8]

Where I use to work i was cutting cycle time from 15 minutes to 5 minutes and suggested a redesign of the tool and was able to go from 1 part of a 15 minute cycle time to 6 parts in a 5 minute cycle , and I got screwed in end

[@xSP3CTREx]

I don't do CNC but directly service the companies that do as CISO-Network Engineer, alongside 3D printing and basic metalwork. Your equipment and explanations are beautiful and some heavy truth laid in there that some don't like to hear. One of my plants is that 30 speed, everyone standing around working on hand me downs with no regard for improving just getting the part done.

[@daryllemire6503]

I all to relate to this guys story. I got into the trade around the time he started his first shop and only recently have I decide to come to his videos and listen to his advice. I worked 50 60 70 80 80 hour work weeks for straight time on the promise I could bring in work and I was to take over, recently I helped that company move and after I finished helping get all the machines running I left. I left with nothing. Money owed to me. Never any skin in the game.

[@G4Nazarener]

I experienced a similar story in my last job. My boss had problems that I had better ideas as he had. In the previous job i produced parts made of tantalum. The company started cnc turning for this parts without any experience and hired me because they had a worker which couldn’t get along with this material on cnc. I changed a lot about the tools and developed the processes with a lot improvements about process stability and lowered the costs and increased the output. I found ideas to produce parts which were not suitable for the machines and developed clamping devices to save material . I made the processes that good that even a competitor which produced tantalum raw materials and cutting tools couldn’t make better prices for our customer. I kicked them out even they worked in that field for many decades .Finally I left the company because I didn’t liked the attitude of the boss . Now I work in a company which produces medical parts made of titan. The college’s are very nice and the salary is much better. Some people always have problems with other people who question the thinks how they are done. Thank you sharing your story. It’s good to know that I am not the only one having this problems.

[@shade38211]

You are the best in your own mind. Please give yourself a raise.

[@wernerdanler2742]

I worked as a machinist for a few years on conventional mills and lathes, and then I went to work in a shop that had NC mills and one NC lathe. They put me on the lathe, and I set it up, and after shutting, the cabinet turned it on. It wound that stock up so fast it scared the shit out of me. Lol I had never seen anything run that fast. Only one problem. There was an error in the program, and instead of moving away, it went in, snapping the tool off. The programmer could not find the error because he relied on a plotter that couldn't show it. I stepped through the codes after studying them and found it. That was my start in NC, cnc, and also electronic tracers. I got out of the trade almost 40 years ago and never looked back.

[@josephgirard9209]

The market will handle this. If companies fail to adapt - be competitive - they will go out of business. You were right to leave and start your own shop.

[@JSomerled]

Got that right..competition doesn’t feed the weak.

[@TheAimlessWarrior]

@@JSomerled but it's still working like that for decades

[@Volkbrecht]

@@TheAimlessWarrior Often because some unrecognized factors are actually beneficient despite the apparent inefficiency. In this case, my guess is that not a lot of workers can handle the high throughput. In the 30 mins the machine takes to run, you can go get a coffee, take a dump, manage your material and keep the workplace clean. Cut that time too much, and all of a sudden you need to be constantly attentive for a whole workday. Plus, the safety aspect. Speeding up the process may be technically safe, as long as the worker is good. But now you have eliminated a certain margin for errors, cannot get away any longer with minor sloppiness.

[@Troph2]

At this point in my career i don't give a shit anymore. The boss will spend his money how he wants and my name isn't on the side of the building so who gives a damn.

[@togowack]

Invest and retire as soon as possible!!

[@shaakenbake]

I love when he say: "BOOMM", "and there you go, BOOOM", "I see you guys later, BOOOMM", "I love this, BOOMM"..... kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@larrykent196]

Titan thanks for the video, the story has to be told. Opportunity often not given, but made, you made your choice. Cheers to you!.

[@adamabele785]

A friend of me told me a similar story: The CNC was machining plastic parts with very small drill bits (think of a dremel). When he came in first thing he figured out what was the maximum revolution of the drill bit allowed for the material. He changed it from a few hundred rpm to 2000 rpm and the parts took only a few seconds to finish instead of several minutes. And the people in charge thought the same thing: this is dangerous. However, when you break a 1 mm drill bit and ruin a plastic part that has material worth one cent what does it matter, when you can produce five or ten times more parts in the same time?

[@colonelgutsy2177]

I think KZbin recommended this because it heard me say out loud that I'm tired of my job. I'm tired of hearing people talking about me behind my back like I ain't got no ears. I'm tired of coming in to a mess I played no part in making. I'm tired of getting paid less than minimum wage. I'm tired of it.

[@SimonO1919]

Sucks man... I have a 23 yr old boss, who I thought is completely unable to explain things until a new guy came (the son of one of our colleagues) and it turned out he can do a show around and can explain how the machine, programming, etc. works just not to me for some reason. Also he’s the kind of guy I call “problem oriented”. Complaining and complaining all the time, whatever I come to him with, he sometimes turns his head away, but is always pissed, really whatever I ask, or whatever problem I encounter. Kind of sucks the joy out of it... 🤷‍♂️

[@angrydragonslayer]

Get it all in writing if possible

[@tkfromtheusa8910]

Great delivery on a growth situation! I’m curious why your boss did not say I need you on overtime to train the next shift? Or even pull one of his more experienced to learn what you did.

[@dylanouellet296]

I am in a similar situation. My boss is younger than me, and I’m 25 lol. Its no fun having a kid as your supervisor because they’re just too young to have enough leadership experience

[@angrydragonslayer]

I started as a consultant by 22 and i hope i was the exception......

[@SimonO1919]

@@tkfromtheusa8910 This is a curious guy. He usually said: "I told you man, if you don't understand something, just ask me!" Imagine, you go to leard driving, and your instructor tells you to sit in the car and get going, just ask them when you don't understand something. Many of my colleagues are much better at this than him, so I rather ask them. But asking questions isn't training, so what could've lasted a few weeks, lasted years to get confortable with.

[@andrewb2475]

I wonder if that Boss is watching now?

[@jmadventures9830]

same as my company, my boss wants to do things the wrong way and she actually threatened my job for doing a good job

[@SinnGread]

good !! always strive to get better!

[@akumafuhen2092]

I mainly work in hone/lapping with tolerances ranging from +/- .0001 to +/- .000010 and flat w/n 2 light bands. Occasionally I will do manual lathe work and one part in particular is titanium with a wall thickness of .002. So the point of all that was that all those jobs I do was mainly figured out by burning alot of time experimenting but once you find the process that works for you. It can be tough to change it or even harder is to teach it to someone else. As you mentioned ppl are different. Same for me everytime I have to take over say a O.D grinding job with someone else setup plus tweaks they've made I'm instantly nervous as I have no idea what the part will do lol. So I feel like I understand what his ex boss was saying about changing it back fir the night guy.

[@ericcny]

Love your videos very inspiring keep it up brother

[@tannerhoward5974]

Sounds like you're old boss is similar to mine, but my boss started buying HSS endmills that throw blue chips running 50sfpm. Today I was supposed to cut 40 keyways, I was given a new endmill, it only lasted seven 5" long keyways on one end, the other end didn't get 1/2" before it pushed a big burr and would go no farther. When I looked closely the endmill was improperly ground with rub marks behind the edge. They have only been getting cheaper with every new order of cutting tools. This is a shop full of senior machinists most have worked here for over 25 years like dogs.

[@spamdump4459]

If your manager had worked for me I would have told him he was right not to push that onto the second shift without training. But if he hadn't had the second shift trained up to run your programs within a week or two, we would have had a serious discussion.

[@YaMomsOyster]

Currently planning CNC build, yes my own small model . Have worked on reasonably large bed , 30 metre bed cutting plate cnc and plasma and this is inspiring me to do it sooner. I have a lot of details to work out as yet for a 5 axis job , but have alot of time now I’m retired/sickness. Should be fun and a nice project and distraction from life. Lol big dreams

[@Hareball001]

This video just about sums up my career as a machinist. I’ve worked in many shops that were just like the way titan described. Most people working in shops like these don’t care about what they are doing. They only worry about how little they are getting paid. They aren’t getting paid well because they don’t try to put an effort into making anything better. The attitude is usually “I’ll work/try harder once they pay me more” and we’ll...it’s actually the other way around. You get paid more if your effort and good attitude is there first and you actually make things better or faster or more profitable. Caring about whatever it is you are doing goes a long way in life. Story of my life right here...!!!

[@stringfellowbalk2654]

Applicable to most anything.

[@TWEEMASTER2000]

I wish I didn't have a fractured L3 and T9-11, I used to blow glass and I'd love to try my hand at milling / machining / programming ( I do computer stuff for fun, same with electrical engineering but i'm out of practice right now ). Working for someone like you who has that aggressive optimization mindset sounds like a dream for me. I don't want to run a business again, but I would love the opportunity to contribute what I can to the trade like I did with lampworking.

[@matthewcornelius5862]

Sounds like we worked in the same UNION shop. Unions suck and so don't the people who support them in machine shops. I literally had them so mad from doing the EXACT scenario you just described that they were threatening me and my co worker saying if we kept it up, 4 of 5 members were going to "put us in our place". I have since quit and moved on to another small mom and pop shop and we are flying. Over 1 million dollars in quoted jobs our FIRST YEAR, during the plandemic with only 3 machinists! My co-worker started his own shop and the company we worked for is sending him the work now and taking it away from the union guys who have dug in their heels! HA!

[@countryjoe3551]

Those union idiots deserve to go hungry with an attitude like that.

[@edrose8358]

"Because that's the way we've always done it" is one of the most ignorant statements ever made. Continue improving yourself and be the change you want to see in the world. Kudos to you Titan, show them how not to be stagnant.

[@falconmotorsports8323]

I cut thermoforming molds that get sand blasted when they are finished. My boss still wants the best finish possible even though I can save literally days but a slightly rougher finish even though they get sand blasted lol

[@mattcaesar5781]

Thats stupid lol

[@falconmotorsports8323]

It’s unbelievable man I don’t understand it

[@nikfish1]

Being a good employee is frequently not about being a super star at your task. It is often about being able to deliver what your boss deems necessary, and representing the interests of the enterprise as a whole.

[@drmodestoesq]

Also, working as slowly as you can to increase you and your co-workers hours.

[@bubandlisa]

I quit my 💩 job and started focusing on art & clay sculpting. Scary at 1st but the stress is a good stress 😊

[@jomarwilks]

You seem to have the skills and determination, to succeed i hope you get up and running i had the chance to start out on my own in air conditioning big industrial stuff with a collegue,like you we were quick and did all the hard stuff quicker making the company i worked for a lot of profit, and i fell ill and could not go through with it we as a team held the company together, i regret not taking the plunge, i think about that many times,, i am now too old and sick to work so seize the day even if it fails you did not shrink away from the challenge, i am with you in spirit, all the best from bonnie scotland

[@Wbfuhn]

I currently work at a company that produces bearings of various applications. We assemble these by hand. The station I'm at use to be automated at another site but then it was relocated because we had the space. We build these faster than the automated system. I believe there are machines that can build these faster. It's just a matter of finding the right machine. But the company is looking at keeping it's labor force. They care about the labor force over trying to increase profits through reducing head count.