My Caribbean Medical School Experience | This Was Unexpected...

I visited St. George's University, one of the big 4 Caribbean medical schools. The experience was anything but expected. Here's what I learned about Caribbean medical schools.
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03:00 - Things I like
03:36 - Things I don’t like
04:37 - Step 1
05:21 - Match rate & attrition
08:48 - Anatomy lab
09:39 - Culture shock
10:22 - Cost
10:56 - Student culture
12:03 - Student support
14:08 - Updates to my original Caribbean videos
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[@kevinjubbalmd]

This was a great practice in me being mindful of the reciprocity rule from Influence by Cialdini. I liked a lot of the staff and people I met at SGU, so no disrespect to them, but I cannot allow myself to be filtered or have premeds be lied to without calling this stuff out. If I'm fortunate enough to be on KZbin and have people watch them, then it's my responsibility to serve my viewers. Thanks for watching. I love you all. EDIT: No disrespect at all to Caribbean students. I have tremendous respect for the doctors and residents I have worked with who were trained in the Caribbean. They worked an uphill battle and overcame the odds. Will be making a follow up video to elaborate further

[@oreman011]

I was afraid clicking on this that this would just be a shill. Thanks for staying true!

[@justinmoore5589]

Hey Kevin, I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos. I love how thorough and well thought out they are. Your videos have really helped me understand the process behind becoming a physician. I decided late in the game I wanted to go to medical school. Therefore, I am lacking in a phew key areas that might allow acceptance in traditional U.S. based medical schools. With that being said, do you have data showing how often or if any U.S. medical schools misrepresent their attrition rates, pass/fail rates, and Step 1 averages? I would be very interested in learning this. Thank you so much for all you do! You are the man!!!

[@its9333]

Damn..I missed him...

[@moniquedavidson988]

Please do an analysis on Cuba med schools

[@MV-qw2dw]

@@moniquedavidson988 would be interested! Please do!

[@tigger911ish]

SGU probably regretting their decision to invite you DrJ.. Lol

[@tq131]

it was a great video showcasing the other side of Caribbean medical school. It should be your last straw, but if anyone decides to go there, I believe they can be successful with the right mentality. 30% of students are dropping out because those people shouldn't have been qualified to go to medical school in the first place. They probably kept the lazy study habits that kept them through university at average GPA. Anyone watching this and decides to go to Caribb school, you will need to change. They won't hold your hands like Canadian medical schools (i.e. UBC realllly don't want to fail you). Don't think about being put in prison. You are only going to be there for 2 years before rotations, and those hard few years will change the 50 years of your future life.

[@georgelampros4593]

@@tq131 SGU is like damn someone with a brain actually proved how shady we are not a great business model

[@preppypuppy2638]

tigger911ish They were the ad that played before this video...I'm choking on the irony.

[@insidemansions453]

😩😩😩😂😂😂

[@DavyBoy81]

My cousin went to an IMG school, came back to the states and ended up becoming Chief Resident. You need to put in the work most definitely.

[@isaiah3787]

That wouldn’t have anything to do with your med school though.

[@OrganicDolphin]

This is completely irrelevant

[@Am-Not-Jarvis]

"Honorary pre-med adviser". I think with all you have contributed to students in need, you can drop the "honorary" title.

[@frantzfudoshian1548]

You should definitely make a series where you (possibly a team of others) visit many medical MD and DO schools in America and see if it's "Jubbal Approved" Complete transparency and pulling the curtains before our eyes, it'll definitely help applicants make a better school list as well as schools see their faults and actually tackle these challenges And bring light to the sacrifices when pursuing medicine and not have this stigma of being nearly impossible and something unachievable

[@lovefunkrockmusic]

Frantz Fudoshian Especially DO schools. There are DO schools that are questionable like Nova Southeastern

[@taylorbarney1772]

lovefunkrockmusic what are your reasons? What is their Match rate and average step/COMLEX score?

[@Kickbackfool87]

I knew all of this from past research, but I still watched it to see if you'd let yourself be swayed. Your honesty and trustworthiness is refreshing. There are a lot of people who would have been in your shoes and let the smoke fill up their ass until they couldn't see straight. I appreciate your objective approach despite the wining and dining they did.

[@PrincessPeachGummy]

Honest, unfiltered, blunt truths about the med school admission and residency application process is so rare and precious. Students who perceive this as hurtful don't understand how valuable and empowering this information is! Advisors don't care about you--they care about their institutions. They have little incentive to help students achieve their true goals. Anti-fragilism is ESSENTIAL to beating the odds and and becoming the physician you want to be. It's so easy for people to sugarcoat things and give you a cookie for floating along and carrying out tasks that require little effort. A healthy amount of stoicism supplemented by the motto "nobody cares, work harder" helped me to swallow my pride, work my butt off, and get me to the medical school and ultimately residency position I wanted.

[@WeamAhmed95]

My man Dr. Jubba did NOT hold back 👏🏽 very informative

[@jsanjuan93]

This is a critically important video for those interested in medicine. Thanks for doing this as pre-meds need non-biased perspectives, especially with the changes to Step 1 coming in the near future.

[@georgelampros4593]

Do you believe that the new changes to step 1 will make it harder for carribean students to match?

[@Painter38R]

My son graduated in 2021. High honors throughout college and pre med. Received Md from SGU and still has not matched! Very few residencies take SGU . We have applied 4 times for em and fm. He went to SGU because of a scholarship. BIG MISTAKE. The folks have little contacts to help...your rotations are in the worst hodpitals...he added an MS in bioengineering from NYU ..honor roll in 2022, certificate in medical coding in 2023, MS in computer sci before med school, extensive travel in Asia and speaks japanese. $600,000 in debt, unemployed. Planning to move to Japan to teach English (got certified to teach english as second language). My son is a workaholic...and did not get ONE EM interview. US citizen born in Mt Sinai Hospital. As a caucasian male he is the bottom of the list for hire...add carib grad to that.... SGU adds more mds to USA...but mds CANNOT PRACTICE medicine unless they have a residency and most residencies won't interview them. One more issue...If you are a US citizen you are still considered a foreign student even though you rotated with everyone else in US hospitals. A nother issur...Lincoln hospital...funded by our tax dollars...check out fm residencies...Directed by foreign dr...all residents from India, pakistan, saudi arabia, syria! Do not do Carib med schools..look at eras...check how many matches...sgu said 970 matches this year....they do not indicate how many years of graduates...they graduate 2000 students more a less a year....where are the others?..I was blocked from the SGU parent gtoup for telling the truth! Sorry...Sunday morning rant. Supporting depressed md living at home again...single mom and his twin brother investigating every possibility daily as another match season approaches.

[@Painter38R]

Sorry about typos...no edit button😳

[@sonnyreel289]

Really sorry your son has had a rough time. My daughter graduated last year and just finished her 1st year of residency in EM. Her boyfriend went to SGU and just finished his 1st year of residency also in EM. Both are in the Miami area of Florida and did their rotations there also. Tell your son not to give up...keep pushing forward!

[@DrAdnan]

“...and that’s it for things that I like” -straight savage 😂

[@jawaadhassan8866]

I am a SGU grad, I put in hard work, Step scores were 250+ and matched a decent residency (non-surgical), and I take the credit for most of my achievements. Dont completely agree with the anatomy lab part of the video. My co-residents are mostly US grads and my anatomy knowledge is better than most of them andalthough I am in a non-surgical fields, there is a lot of anatomy in radiology. What you put in is what you get out.

[@Mr-E.]

Do you think the match rates of your peers was decent? Did it seem like a high attrition rate or low matching?

[@squiggs1002]

He wasn't talking about specific individuals he was talking about as a whole. Can you honestly say that the rest of your class was on your level? What was the average student like at your school?

[@failyourwaytothetop]

@@Mr-E. Residency rates are pretty poor but I don't care whether I match or not. I only like pathology. I'm not interested in the living and pharmacology.

[@issta7618]

هلا جواد هل لى أسالك عن بعض الاستفسارات لو تسمح ؟

[@pamkaur1426]

I went to SGU. It is true that this school is very cut throat. It is true that for some, the amount of work that is required of them is so overwhelming that they fail a class or drop out. I personally did not look at attrition rates when I was looking into carib medical schools. There are people from all walks of life at this school, with all kinds of personalities. You cannot say that this many people failed or dropped out so I will too. You have to know what YOU want and how much you want it before even thinking about medical school at all, no matter if its a US school or a carib. I think SGU should portray the attrition rates accurately, but even if they don't it is irrelevant to your decision if you know that you are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve your goals. St George's is the number 1 provider of doctors in the US. They know what they are doing and they do it well. It is ALLLLLLL about way you put into it. And if you do, you will ultimately be a stronger, more caring and more confident doctor knowing that you overcame so much to make it to that point. I know I certainly am. Lastly, going to Grenada for med school was the first time I left my small hometown and my family... a culture shock was inevitable BUT it was not nearly as extreme as portrayed here. SGU does a lot to make the transition as seamless as possible. The island is beautiful... I don't know of any student that doesn't miss it after they leave. It was my favorite part about medical school.

[@shl2133]

I want to like your post 10000 times if i can. I agree with you 100%. SGU is definitely not an easy path to become a physician but it definitely will make you a stronger person mentally and emotionally so we can serve our patients with more humility.

[@juliansolotorres]

Hey Dr. Jubbal, thanks so much for the video. I’ve watched it before applying to medical school, and I watched it again as a medical student at SGU. Your overall opinions are spot on (at least in my perspective). I’m thankful to have a chance to become a physician someday in the US and know I have to get through another year here in the Caribbean before I go back and do my clinical years in the US. If you’re a current pre med and are thinking about applying to medical school in the US at least apply twice if you don’t get in the first time before applying to the Caribbean. I was already older and wanted to get my medical journey started so that’s why I applied to a Caribbean medical school, but I do see now the difficulties that has come with my decision including; cost of housing is outrageous, food is expensive and almost always out of stock, people aren’t the friendliest and all that piles up. But I do believe you will come out of this experience as an overall more patient and tolerable person.

[@Qwabyna]

This life is not about the school, is what you use your education for and how smart you are. You can go to a Carribean school and be a great doctor same as someone will attend a US school and fail badly. In life just focus focus focus and bring the best out of you. All schools are profit making entity

[@farazr2]

One thing I never see mentioned is that just because the school you go to doesn't provide for you, or is bad value, doesn't mean that GRADUATES from that school are subpar. If someone goes to Caribbean, makes it through the shitty environment and attrition, rocks STEP, rotations, and matches, they should be seen as equals to US counterparts. Even in /r/medicalschool, there was a post recently about "what do we owe IMG competitiveness" where people shit on those whose only options are international. I also think AUC is better than Ross and SGU for having smaller class sizes and mitigating a lot of the downsides you've listed here. They have student-performed cadaver labs with 7-8 students dissecting at once not prosections, and ready access to mental health on a moment's notice.

[@christinekwon1858]

THIS!!! As a non US Citizen, a carribean school is my only option to practice medicine in the US. But I am scared that once I do start practicing, I will be judged as a carribean medical student and looked down on. I wish there would be some positivity about carribean medical schools or at least respect for those who survived to the end so that there isnt this awful prejudice against them.

[@bluesmon54321]

I graduated from St. George's and was chief resident in my program. They said we'd never be chief resident or Chairman of the Department but, guess what? Many SGUSOM's ARE Chair of their departments. Here's what I don't get. Except for the University of Illinois grads there are more physicians practicing in the US who are grads from St. George's than from any other med school - American or foreign. And if the trend continues St.George's will soon be number one because for the past few years more first year residency slots were filled by St.George's grads than any other med school. So, if more physicians are being pumped into the system by St.George's than any of the American schools it begs the question: why haven't the American med schools expanded their class size to fill a greater number of available residency slots? It's a curious situation.

[@J-jizzy_]

Here in canada the government heavily subsidizes the actual cost of med school so the class sizes can’t be bigger because the gov is only willing to put in so much money. ALSO the high competitiveness ensures that those who get into med school will be able to handle the rigours of the 4 year program. I assume America is the same. One more thing: in regards to there being more physicians from SGU practicing than most other US schools (I’ll assume it’s accurate for the sake of argument), you have to take into account that there is over far more people graduating from SGU than any other university-therefore there should be a discrepancy there... however, you need to take into account the nuance of the situation, such as the failure rate of matching (which is quite high), what they are practicing etc etc.

[@Mr-E.]

Hi Edward, do you see any issues going forward now that the DO MD fusion occurred? Basically, DO students taking the spots from Caribbean students? Also the new pass/fail system for Step 1.

[@Rpere387]

Here in south Florida a lot of our doctors come from overseas medical schools. Some from the Caribbean and others from schools in their home countries of Venezuela, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Colombia etc.

[@stellawine4976]

Thank you so much for being honest about your experience with SGU!! This video is super helpful even after watching your previous video about Caribbean medical schools.

[@etherealbae2160]

Lol their plan to invite and persuade you backfired. I'm glad your opinions couldn't be bought.

[@user24x91]

I'd like to know what makes a caribbean medical student a lower caliber compared to a US student? The only thing you mentioned in the video was the inadequate anatomy lab experience. But you didnt mention that there are elective courses that are offered that include a course in dissecting the cadavers. Or elective courses that allow you to volunteer in community clinics and let you get a broad experience. There is an internal test that we must pass before step and that test is essentially our practice test to give us an idea of how we would do on step 1 and from talking to upperclassmen it seems to be a pretty accurate way to judge our step performance. Also when you talk about the 500 students that do not match, I'm not sure if you included the international students that go back to their home countries (not the US) to practice.

[@rosegold.sunset4749]

If its a practice test then why aren't the students who fail it not able to sit for their Step 1 exam? That's why it seems sketchy. The results are skewed if those students don't write it with the others who pass the "practice" test.

[@aksaarbasil3272]

As an SGU alum and IM resident at my first choice in CA, I believe this video is misleading to some potentially great SGU candidates. I am writing this to ensure that anyone who is considering SGU as a real opportunity to become an MD in the US is not deterred from their dream. I am not saying the facts presented are not true, but I do think many of them were one-sided and incomplete, once again contributing to the stigma fueled by individuals who never went to SGU to begin with. To address some of your points: ** ATTRITION RATE: The high attrition rate comes from the lower admission standards at SGU... this is a fact. Some people are not here for the right reasons or ready for the rigors of medical school. EVEN THEN, the standards are very reasonable - if you can simply pass your classes (70% average with 2 additional failed attempts) you will not fail out and become part of that attrition rate. This is certainly very doable and on par with US med school standards. ** USMLE: SGU requires you to PASS NBME/Step 1 to continue to US rotations. Again, I think that minimum proficiency is a very reasonable measure for any future physician… in fact the lack of such a measure given SGU’s more lax admission standards would probably be more worrisome, no? By the end of pre-clinicals, most of us felt SGU prepared us well for Step and this was not even an issue. ** ROTATIONS: You can do ALL your rotations in the US (60+ affiliations) and one of the major plus points at SGU is the insane alumni network. My friends and I 100% took advantage of the SGU network as a means to get our foot in the door at rotations/residency programs all over the US. I received invaluable facetime for rec letters, interview connections etc which is now 100x more important with the new USMLE P/F system…This was probably one of the biggest perks of SGU in particular. I was waitlisted at a small rural DO school with 0 rotation options in CA or NYC and I don’t think I would be at my first choice if I had gone this route. ** RESIDENCY: If you are interested in a primary care residency (IM, FM, peds etc) then SGU can get you there. Many of these residencies are at solid programs in CA, NJ, and NY, FL (view Match List 2019 on SGU’s website to confirm). If not, it will be harder but not impossible... do your research and be reasonable. Also a fact: SGU is the #2 source of physicians in the United States with >900 matching in 2019… the help I received from dozens of SGU attendings and residents showed on my residency app and often pulled me through. Again, probably not something I would have had if I went DO. ** MONEY: Tuition is significantly HIGHER than the US, also a fact - but not mentioned is that SGU gives massive scholarships to thousands of deserving students every year (I received a grant on top of a scholarship that took off ~1/3rd of tuition fees, and SGU ended up being cheaper than the DO option I was considering… a major factor in my decision). Regardless you definitely need to ask yourself, is this worth it for me? ** QUALITY: If you reach out for help, SGU provides because as a for-profit institution attrition is a bad look. There are small group activities as well as multiple tutoring programs you can enroll in (SELP, SL, AEP) that gives students advice on study strategies and subject-based tutoring. 4 students in the class above mine who initially failed Term 1 used these services and made it to graduation with an upward academic trend. Also can confirm that if you don’t ask, you will not get anything… that is your choice. ALSO for students with an 85% average (solid B) SGU provides opportunities for special anatomy hours and enrollment in a research program partnering you with a PhD on campus! Great for people interested in publications/research over partying on the beach * ENVIRONMENT: I did not mind the island, but I am someone who is open to new experiences and loves traveling/adventure (got my scuba diving license out there). I made some lifelong friends and was immersed in a new culture. It was 100% annoying at times but big picture - to me the inconveniences of an island were nothing in the face of the opportunity to become an MD. Obviously, US MD is your first choice. If you apply multiple cycles and look offshore remember there are some truly HEINOUS programs out there, and I cannot speak to any of them in the same way I cannot speak to the experience at a US MD or DO school. SGU is a US-accredited school with a 93% match rate, many of which are in reputable programs. This is a fact. If you are here to become a physician and willing to work hard for it, you will get there. I did TONS of research before choosing SGU and looking back, I would do it again. Why? I would not be an MD IM resident in California if I had not chosen SGU. The common response to this will be that I am the minority who overcame some monumental obstacle but based on the odds Dr. Jubbal himself presented (30-35% attrition, 93% matching) the odds are actually IN your favor rather than stacked against you at SGU. Biggest takeaway - do your research to find out if this is a good option FOR YOU. If you are a hard-working student (which is expected in both US and IMG schools) and comfortable with a primary care residency (of which you have many solid options), then SGU may be a viable option for you to become an MD.

[@arbinddas2487]

Aksaar Basil, good job man! Keep up the good work 👌. Stop these doctors who backstab SGU and SGU students in general.

[@MV-qw2dw]

@@arbinddas2487 4th year here. And this video is very accurate. Sorry to disappoint you.

[@MV-qw2dw]

It's not about hard working anymore. That has completely changed. Sgu sees their numbers by term 5 and realized they do not have many seats for rotations.. What do they do? Change the curriculum and rules to fail more students and make more of a profit by recycling the students back to term 5.

[@timmytamagotchi]

@@MV-qw2dw have you seen that boat outside of patrick adams? what does it say?

[@futureDrNLB]

Thank you for providing another perspective!

[@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro]

Woah! I did my surgical rotations w/4th yr. SGA students, many years ago. They didn't tell me ANY of this about their school! This was really an eye opener! 😯 Thank you, Dr.Jubbal.

[@TerenceThomas]

When I saw the day in the life, I was wondering if you had actually gone down there for yourself. Crazy to hear all the tricks being played. I appreciate your honest reviews🙌🙌

[@thomasb5828]

Loved the video! Would you make a video on masters programs (or SMP) designed to help prospective medical school student who might have a low gpa or another deficiency in their candidacy.

[@MaskedManMikeMD]

as a graduate of one of the big 4 (not SGU) you hit the nail on the head for a lot of negatives. Especially with the student culture and support. We know we can be dismissed if we are having trouble, and the mental health support is atrocious. We just had a joke of a "mindfullness meditation" class. I had to work my ass off more to even get through the internal exams to be able to take the steps, and they werent even good indicators of how well you even do. The Caribbean school experience has caused me to have severe depression, imposter syndrome, and yes, it has caused me to call a crisis hotline one or two times during my 4ish years. The only ones that ever thrive here are the honor students that seem to have no problem partying on the weekends and still being top of the class. This experience is not for everyone.

[@georgelampros4593]

I left after 6 weeks in term 2 I feel yah

[@User1Mac]

You nailed it! I’ve been waiting for someone to tel the truth. People have to hear this before going

[@smclean5504]

There is a difference between Caribbean US Med schools and Caribbean Med schools yes?

[@Marie-ls4nb]

Yes.

[@samira1932]

I am a current student at SGU and can say that while harsh a lot of what you say is true so I thank you for this honest video. This is not a school for the light hearted and you need to work hard and maintain focus in order to do well here. My only critique is your comment about the social environment. In a school this large, the people you choose to surround yourself with makes a HUGE difference. I have an amazing group of friends that support each other and make me happy and motivated to be here and can't say I've felt even a hint of cutthroat attitude while here. It may happen but just like anywhere in life it's important to choose your friends wisely. I would have also liked to see how you compare the averages from students from the US and students from other countries as the data we are given shows large gaps between those numbers (aka if you aren't from the USA the chances are a lot worse). Also something I never hear mentioned is that some students who come here are from countries that sponsor them under the condition that they will practice and do their residencies in their own home countries. I'm not sure exactly how that would affect the numbers but its something to think on...

[@tigs870]

The last point about sponsorship is actually very interesting

[@royallan4667]

My new primary care provider graduated from St. George. I immediately thought of Saul Goodman and his University of American Samoa degree.

[@gdaymates431]

Yeah but Saul is an excellent lawyer haha. Saul'Goodman

[@1a_jaromay271]

Hey Dr kevin i am your # 1 fan in the Philippines

[@caleboluwadamisi7100]

A major factor as to why there is a discrepancy in the admission to match application ratio is that there are a lot of international students in Caribbean medical schools who come just to get their MD's and go back to their home countries. Not everyone in Caribbean schools wants to practice in the US.

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Nope, their match rate already accounts for the students that successfully match into their home programs. That number is also

[@HasanKhan-fc8fd]

What are your opinions on the best med school to go to abroad if 1) You want to practice or get a residency spot in the US and 2) If you have exhausted your options within the US. I do see the points that you make, but there are many many grads that do come back to the US/Canada after going to SGU or Ross and have practices that are just as good.

[@lulunemonexe6051]

This really opened my eyes I was really considering Caribbean med school after my gap year

[@georgelampros4593]

Do not go I went there and it was awful seems to be gettin worse

[@jackie5164]

@@georgelampros4593 I second it. Don't chance it.

[@georgelampros4593]

@@jackie5164 did u go to SGU?

[@neji9012]

@@georgelampros4593 did you fail out and become a nurse?

[@georgelampros4593]

@@neji9012 did not fail out by any means in term 2 I was like lectures are so bad, no help, no nothing, so I left lol

[@AdamNessim]

great points kevin! I bring up the internal exam to allow students to sit for step1 with premeds all the time who don't realize that is how the statistics are skewed

[@billsampson1235]

There are NO pros to going to a Caribbean school aside from having a really dark and bumpy road to MAYBE getting a primary care residency in a place most people don't want to live or train at. And this is just getting to applying to the match if you are lucky enough to make it through every career ending obstacle put in your way. One are the USMLE exams. Failing any will end your career right then and there after 2 years of preclinical tuition. Before you do that though you need make it past the student cullings at the end of every preclinical term. I honestly have no idea of what the true number is since so many people are forced to repeat terms, take LOAs, get dismissed etc, but I would guess somewhere around half of everyone who arrives on that island for term 1 never even make it to taking the USMLE step 1 and passing. Then there is the challenge of finding competent people to write your LORs. Since none of the doctors you will train with want to be involved with academic medicine and don't really give a crap about what happens to you, this will make your clinical years a nightmare. Add a pandemic in there and there really is no hope at all since you won't even be able to really find in person clinical experience to get good letters in the first place. I went unmatched even with double digit interviews after graduating from this same school. I remember the school inviting successful graduates to speak on the island when I was there. I assumed it was to motivate us a little before finals, but realized after they posted tons of stuff like this on their website, that they use people like him as a form of propaganda. Everyone who goes to the Caribbean think they will be someone with a story like this (hell I nearly was too and had a story like this until a few weeks ago) but in the end, it is most likely to all come crashing back down on you. Anybody who thinks doing this is a good option should know that you are really just competing with your own classmates at a place like this. The only places that will interview you are places that also take Caribbean students. At some of my interviews the entire cohort was filled with ONLY SGU students. You aren't really in competition with US medical schools because their programs won't even consider you in the first place. This is very important as the school avoids telling us this knowing that sending twenty two year olds to a hyper competitive environment in a foreign country would make them all lose their minds. They also want to makes sure you aren't aware so that they can extract as much tuition out of you as possible. Most medical schools now don't even have grades. The idea at non-for profit US medical schools (that actually care about your well being) is that anyone who passes is as qualified as anyone else to practice medicine. While this principal is true as medicine is essentially a very skilled trade, SGU doesn't care about this and since they want to make sure they have a long match list and match a slightly higher number of people, they will betray the bottom half of their class to ensure their business model can continue. Literally the difference between a few multiple choice questions on an exam can be the thing that makes you unemployable out of a place like this. Your faculty and classmates will try to instill an "us vs them" mentality in you to keep you calm, but the smartest people there know you aren't competing with US students at all and you should look at your classmates there like you did to your classmates in your first premed class in college. SGU cares about you for a few things (even though 99% of it is for your money). One is to make their USMLE pass rate as high as possible so they can put a high figure on their website (no one knows what percent pass step 2 CK though as it's probably not high enough for the school to want to announce publicly). They also care about SOMEONE getting into residency from their school so they can write crap like 1000+ students matched without telling you that there were probably twice that number who applied in that given year and ended up with nothing. They do not care about you as an individual at all. If you think you will find a mentor down there or an advisor who can actually help you if shit hits the fan at the very end, you really aren't paying attention to what is going on around you. Actually come to think of it, you are completely on your own after you get off the island and start clinicals. Not that they were much help to begin with, but I haven't directly spoken to one school "official" or faculty member since I left Grenada up until I found out I didn't match. Even then all they really had to offer me was little more than condolences. Caribbean medical schools are a great option if you have a strong desire to potentially be deeply in debt, unemployed, unmarried, suicidal, shunned from your family, develop tons of mental disorders and self destructive habits, and become an otherwise broken, cynical, and morally corrupted soul. I wouldn't wish the aftermath of what I am dealing with because of this decision to attend a Caribbean medical school on anybody. Tldr: AVOID CARIBBEAN MEDICAL SCHOOLS. I could literally write a book about how badly attending one has screwed my life up. *name changed for anonymity

[@georgelampros4593]

haha what you say is true bud I went there and left in term 2

[@dhaufjebzjchseis3828]

did you end up getting matched ?

[@malickturenne3969]

This video was an eye opener thank you very much! Im a canadian pre-med starting to look at international options. I would love to hear what you have to say about canadian/international students wanting to do medicine in the US (AMCAS application process/ pros and cons of Canadians students doing med school in the US). Not sure if that would be a feasible video but I still wanted to throw that out there! Love your content!!

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Canadian content definitely coming

[@malickturenne3969]

😍

[@neyofan123]

Kevin Jubbal, M.D. yes please 🙌🏻

[@zerakhu]

Your mindset in so refreshing to hear more of these kind of videos 🔥

[@dr.pewpew2619]

US med school: we won't admit you unless we know you'll graduate. (5% attrition, 150 graduate) SGU: we'll give anyone a shot at it (35% attrition, 1000 graduate)

[@jdbricksquad1017]

Thank you for this. I was about to apply to SGU but I'm going to work hard and get into a Canadian med school

[@tomerstern2288]

Really good piece. My take away is that for about half of the enrolling class, they get through without major issue, match to something like internal residency, and go on their way to being a doctor. These kids were probably smart enough to go to a US school but just didn't because of bad luck. The other half were not smart enough to go to a US school and end up dropping out of SGU / not matching / failing some big test. I suspect that, ahead of time, it is easy to know which one you are. If you are a smart kid who wants to do internal medicine and got unlucky, SGU will be fine. If you are too dumb to get into a US school then you shouldn't go to SGU because you will fail out. Like you say at the end, I have a hard time believing that selection bias isn't explaining at least 90% of what is going on here. Any smart kid who does fine in a US school is going to do fine at SGU. Its the same thing comparing Harvard to a state college. 90% of the difference is the quality of the 18 year olds they are getting. Very little of it has to do with the "value add" difference between universities

[@hiddendoor184]

Yall really out here calling people dumb. That’s so snobbish

[@spreadlove8947]

🙏Thanks so much for taking out the time to educate us and keeping it real on what to expect

[@-H30]

Ty Dr. J for taking the time to do research on Caribbean medical schools and make a video that is very informational. This video helped me strive to apply and hopefully attend a U.S MD or DO medical school. Thanks for all you do!

[@vidhisharma694]

Yes but international students who want to study medical almost are left with no choice but SGU because the medical schools in the US are so reluctant to take them and keeping in mind double the fees for bachelors. Ultimately, you might end up in SGU for their medical school after bachelors and that raises the cost more than what you would pay for maybe their six years program.

[@TheNtg3399]

Listen Dr. Jubbal. Without SGU and Ross (which is significantly cheaper and with less semesters, making it better imo lol), then who would fill up the empty IM and FM residency spots? Healthcare needs these doctors. Consider this before backstabbing SGU lol.

[@dragon888193ftw]

IMGs from other countries can fill those spots easily. You should've worked harder in your undergrad, loser.

[@TheNtg3399]

International Graduates get trained in their own countries practices. SGU and Ross get trained for American medicine by doing clinical rotations in America for two years. Any international student who wants to practice in America should consider these schools. Match rates and alumni are much higher.

[@TDDVlogs]

“Significantly cheaper”😂😂😂

[@cristenflewellen1692]

Good Day, Dr. Jubbal. We would enjoy hearing your perspective on HBCU medical schools!

[@DrProfX]

Great report! Another big issue is that these schools accept way more students than they have spaces for in clinical rotations so they’ll start to actively fail students (while taking high tuition in semesters 1, 2, 3…) by administering hard tests from the very beginning as they have to cut down their numbers so they’ll be able to place people in their limited clinical rotations and boost their USMLE pass %…

[@jayw8726]

SGU, gotta admit you screwed up by inviting Dr. Kev. 🤣 Huge backfire omg! Lol

[@DrAdnan]

Hm, maybe I need to become a premed advisor 🤔😂

[@lilidodo4567]

I must say some universities in Quebec (Canada) also have prosections and dissections is only available for a small amount of students (the one who will take an elective class during the summer) or for residents BUT education is really less expensive here compared to the US. For a Quebec resident, a full year is around 3000$ .

[@ruthhh.m]

4:22 okay, now a lot of things make sense. I was under the impression that pre-med advisors had to be more knowledgeable about application procedures and the shifting necessities to get into med school....but at my uni, my pre-med advisors don't seem to know much of anything. We literally went on the website of different schools together (which I have done alone anyways) to try and find how to build my application, and it was very disconcerting to me that I couldn't get more information from them outside of what Google already tells me. I guess KZbin is my saving grace now😞

[@kevinjubbalmd]

I was shocked by how ill prepared premed advisors were on this trip. I knew they were bad, but I wasn’t expecting it to be this bad. I’ll have more thoughts about premed advising on the MSI channel on a few weeks

[@DiLLZGFX]

Ngl the only video I'm waiting for is distinguishing good research from bad research

[@ArianaWoods112]

They’re never gonna invite you again 😂 but thank you for asking the questions we need to know

[@lovefunkrockmusic]

Can you break down USDO vs Caribbean MD? Who will be affected the most by the STEP1 pass/fail? Are USDOs weighted higher than Caribbean MDs? Because everyone knows that USMD is safe in terms of matching into anything

[@dr.pewpew2619]

The cadaver labs aren't highlighted more, because the trend in many domestic schools is to drop cadaver labs in the first 2 years anyways.

[@tenhauser]

I'm in DNP school and I'd like to eventually follow up with a SMP and medical school, but I would still go to the Caribbean.

[@astridflowers8001]

You should do a series about Puerto Rican med schools, which are in the Caribbean but are considered US schools. I think you would find similar things, like culture shock, but there may be more benefits in comparison to other Caribbean schools.

[@louvenegas5991]

From the video, I get the impression it’s all about profit, spinning metrics, and selling ignorant pre-meds. Thanks Dr. Jubbal.

[@timdunnigan5986]

Thanks for sharing this! I have wondered whatsup eith the numbers but havent been able to find an answer anywhere!!

[@arebee4592]

15:16 that’s the part that scares me the most. I live in Ontario and am in my 2nd of university and already accepted there’s no way I get accepted in Canada. Competition is insane, so I thought about Caribbean. But I have family friends and even distant family members who went Caribbean, and couldn’t match, and that’s a really bad situation to be in. On the other hand, I know of some who went Caribbean and matched in the US and are doing well. I have a passion for it, but I’m also a realistic person. I don’t really want to gamble matching residency in the US, if the cost is $400k in debt. Idk what to do anymore lol

[@kevinjubbalmd]

My recommendation for most students is to try US MD or DO at least a couple times

[@arebee4592]

@@kevinjubbalmd yo you actually responded that’s lit. Thanks for the informative video it really helps. Yea ur right, even if it takes more than 1 try for a US school, it’s still a better option then the islands of hell

[@georgelampros4593]

yup go to a good school bud its obvious

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Sure thing and thanks for watching :)

[@MusketeerInc]

I'm glad that you came to the Caribbean man. Did you get to review the MBBS (British) program?

[@brendonpersad]

sigh, not great to hear when you live in the Caribbean...

[@jovansiacsmatthew]

Good to know I am not alone

[@starsuperville6863]

Same :(

[@starsuperville6863]

I am also wondering if I, as a west indian move to the US, if I would be given the same opportunities as them.

[@Marie-ls4nb]

Same

[@joshholley4919]

This is my only hope!!! Time to grind in the islands!!!

[@HarshPatel-cc7ne]

Are you currently in carrebean med school?

[@joshholley4919]

@@HarshPatel-cc7ne No I'm not. Since the chances to step 1 I found it in my best interest to wait and see how everything settles. However I'm doing a diy post bac to hopefully land in an U.S. school. Only time will tell.

[@HarshPatel-cc7ne]

@@joshholley4919 don't you think it's better to attend the med school, and just focus on step 2. Iam planning to attend Ross fall 2022.

[@joshholley4919]

@@HarshPatel-cc7ne Congrats. Yeah you have a point, but we don't know if program directors will use step 2 as a replacement for the change to step 1. Best of luck and maybe we will cross paths future Dr. Patel

[@HarshPatel-cc7ne]

@@joshholley4919 thanks, hopefully I will see you in the future as Dr Patel.

[@0bama12]

I'm in Caribbean medical school now... I wish I had done more research and really thought about my options. My advice DON'T DO IT, especially if you're borderline poor student that didn't get into med school in the states. This is a huge gamble. You are literally signing off your life - with life time loans if you fail...I know first hand that about 30% of the students failed out... now they have loans...and no degree. Yes, there a number of students that make it but it's not worth the risk for most...

[@georgelampros4593]

I went to sgu for over a semester and it was so laughable I literally pieced out

[@tfh5575]

SGU’s anatomy sounds like my undergrad anatomy lol

[@georgelampros4593]

but worse ahhahahahahaha

[@jacksmith659]

So true.

[@onyiachika3934]

I'm an international student. Going to a US medical school was my first option, but i heard that they hardly accept international students. So, i started thinkig of Caribbean medical schools. Watching this video now, I'm actually confused on what to do 😔😥

[@MA-tl2ht]

Simple is this.. SGU is a scam. I dropped out after one semester due to the poor education, rude and unprofessional professors and administrators. I experienced this horrible “medical school” first hand and I firmly advise against it

[@savannahhalm]

I went to a bottom tier carribbean medical school. I have now left after step 1 became pass or fail. I made a video warning people of my experience on the island. Bc I don’t want people to risk their mental health and their dreams on these carribbean medical schools. I wish someone who was actually there had warned me. I did 20 months on the island. When Covid hit the school made it excruciatingly clear they didn’t care about us and at first tried to stop us from leaving the island!

[@Blackwolf14k]

Lowkey happy I didn't go to SGU

[@chrisnettles3133]

Where did you go?

[@georgelampros4593]

@@chrisnettles3133 stay away from SGU

[@Soulfi1]

Where did you go?

[@AlecF234]

Hello! I’m starting this August and I was always very skeptical! Can someone tell me what their experience was like learning remotely at SGU med school vs being in person… everyone’s input is much appreciated!

[@staciestudies4177]

I think people also include PR schools on this but forget to mention that PR schools are also US schools.

[@김예지-t4y]

I was looking into SGU MD program and this was indeed unexpected. Thanks for the honest video. Right now entering UCLan medical foundation course is my other option as an international student, but if the reality is like this video at SGU, I'm afraid UCLan would be the same.. or even worse.... Do you happen to know about UCLan Foundation program in the UK?

[@georgelampros4593]

hey do not go to SGU I went it was a joke

[@rkeyz686]

Hey, so I am a medical student at St. George's university. We are a very small uni inside a big hospital, hence known as a teaching hospital. I was wondering if you are making videos specifically about American and Caribbean unis as I would love to hear your take on London Medical Schools. Of course there are some 'mahoosive' benefits financially (as the gov takes care of many fees, gives bursaries for low-income families and even the student finance set up charges very little interest...which I am lead to believe is only paid back if you can earn over a certain amount...some people may think this is only justice as the people increasing student fees went to uni for free themselves, ha). Do you have any assumptions about London unis? If so, I would love to see a video on it! P.S I am now slightly worried because in my anatomy lessons, only pro-sections are used...although there is an option to enter a summer dissection programme. Regards, Rav

[@jacksmith659]

The funny thing, as he was speaking about SGU one of their ads came on. I mean for profit! 😂😂😂😂

[@shaquillemiller1285]

I think you should visit the University Of the West Indies (UWI) Mona campus in Jamaica. And I would like for you to do a video on Medical school in China and Russia because I'm thinking about going to a med school in one of those countries.

[@vivelaresistance3239]

Nicole Saphier, speaking on Fox, gave her medical opinion on ventilators and when patients with covid should be taken of them. First of all, she was trained as a radiologist. Secondly, she is a graduate of Ross U. Sch. of Medicine, based in Barbados. It appears to be owned by DeVry. It has something like a 40% dropout rate. What’s your opinion of this school and the actions of this doctor?

[@cmn6772]

Great points Kevin! Apply, apply, and apply. For both MD & DO in the United States, Canada, or even possibly Europe. My younger brother is going to med school in Spain. Spanish is our first language and it is not because he didn't get accepted in the United States but he wanted to have a different experience. I chose to attend med school in the US lol

[@lima153330]

Your learn a lot of about anatomy from dissecting a cadvear That a lie You spend every freaking hour just removing fascia

[@fredmcelroy2839]

At first, when I heard that one should not go to a Caribbean Med School I automatically assumed that it was an attack on the education that the students receive. BUT, this video has helped me to understand that it is really the staff of these schools that make the experience awful.

[@georgelampros4593]

take it from me Dr. J is so right

[@marianne2482]

hey! It would be very helpful if you do a video of how would it look like for a caribbean student applying and practicing in USAprogram, since how would they write MCAT or obtain their GPA? It's very confusing

[@DrDeusExMachina]

MD > DO >>>>> Carib Step 1 is P/F now, carrib students are gonna get washed out.

[@georgelampros4593]

I went to sgu for over a semester and left it sucked so bad

[@tz6706]

George Lampros Jubbal get off your burner!

[@rickA31]

Hey Dr. J, have you done a response to Dr. Bucks video about Caribbean vs DO? It was from awhile back

[@kevinjubbalmd]

Never saw Buck's video. But I do have a video on the MSI channel about Caribbean vs DO. Link in description

[@medaviate]

Hey keven, thank you indeed for this very insightful video. Hey! What do you think about St James it 's also Caribbean. the tuition is very affordable. do you have any light shed on this? i would be appreciated. Peace

[@GABRIELJACMEL]

I am going to take the time to say GREAT FUKKING VIDEO DUDE!!! YAY! YOU GAVE THE STEAK WITHOUT THE FAT (MY FATHERS SAYING)! I am truly bless to be a allied health professional in a big name hospital. This have given me consistent contact to medical professionals from a variety of academic background. I have actually met Doctors who had graduated from Saba, Ross and SGU. All of them have a common denominator on their experience, when I had asked them. Would you do it again as far as going back to a carribbean medical school. All of them say hell no!!! They all had told me that there are alot of pertinent informations they do no tell on their websites. The SGU graduate who is a psychiatrist told me it was "A CUT THROAT ENVIRONMENT!" She told me "you are truly are own your own." The psychiatrist stated " what I AM GREATFUL ABOUT SGU IT GAVE ME THE OPPURTUNITY TO BE A DOCTOR." The Ross and saba told me the something about their experience. Let us not forget there was a young lady who had a website and youtube about her experience at SGU. She stated the same thing you had said, and she was attacked like hell.......People do your homework!!! I had attended a saba open house when I had asked about the attrition rate he told me " do not believe everything you read on the internet, we do pay attention to everything that is said on the internet about carribbean schools." pssstttt

[@georgelampros4593]

do u go to a carib school?

[@GABRIELJACMEL]

George Lampros why would I????

[@GABRIELJACMEL]

George Lampros did u?????

[@georgelampros4593]

@@GABRIELJACMEL sure did it was horrible and I had to piece out everyday was terrible please stay stateside... message me personally if you want details lol

[@funmiade575]

@@georgelampros4593 which of the Caribbean medical schools hools did you go to?

[@CaribbeanWayz]

Interesting Thanks for sharing !

[@TheDeluche]

SGU trying to buy you out! LMAO

[@nikelnicole]

Is this video about SGU/C'bean medical school. Never been to medical school. But it's going to be hard for anyone in a first world country to adjust to any C'bean school b/c the technology and resources are vast different. The reverse would be easier. Secondary school education is slightly different. In the English speaking C'bean countries most (if not all) have two year extension in secondary school which is like pre-med to matriculate students into a medical school. If their grades were not good they may do a major in the sciences and after two years or graduating apply for med school. I worked with MD in a C'bean country and in the US. I've never been more concern until I come to the US. I'm not making this up. I've to borderline harass doctors to prevent patient from dying or getting worst. I've had issues back home. *No system is perfect.* My advise if you plan to practice in the US, study in the US. It's easier when doing boards.

[@blaby4ever]

So you want to be a pre-med advisor

[@trevorwatkins7171]

You should absolutely go around to U.S. Medical schools and do this same assessment. It would be incredibly enlightening to know how culture differs around the U.S. and which medical schools are just bullshitting. There is NO appropriate source online for this sort of thing right now. U.S. News and Review is a joke. As an applying student, I want to know what it's like to actually go there. How about a series where you travel around, visit a ton of medical schools, and talk to all of the students?

[@kevinjubbalmd]

I like this idea

[@TerenceThomas]

I agree US news sucks lol this would be a great idea

[@thanhthanhvo5191]

THIS IS SUCH AN AMAZING IDEA!

[@stephenr4185]

Kinda like Flexner 2.0. Maybe we’ll just call it the Jubbal report.

[@aubreyingram3582]

Yes! Especially some of the “big name” DO schools. Tuition creeping up to $80k annually, decreased student resources, difficulties with combined NRMP Match, etc.

[@knzay]

i was so ready for this to be a fluffy, ass-kissing video about how your mind has been changed since visiting the campus. boy was i wrong

[@ngoctam850]

Ke La same, can’t believe I put this school as my backup plan😬

[@Valcreee]

well that backfired for SGU lol

[@georgelampros4593]

terrible school man im speaking from experience unfortunately stick to a US school

[@tiffanyjoyxP]

George Lampros what was your plan after leaving them ?

[@georgelampros4593]

@@tiffanyjoyxP text me personally

[@georgelampros4593]

@@tiffanyjoyxP NP

[@Hepacivirus]

@@georgelampros4593 why is it a terrible school

[@hassanarshad3805]

SGU: invites Dr. Jubbal on an all-expense-paid trip to make them look good Dr. Jubbal: I'm about to end this school's whole career

[@smiley8106]

Hassan Arshad lmaoo

[@chrisnettles3133]

SGU is the 2nd largest provider of physicians in American and have placed more students into US residencies for the past ten years combined than any other school in the world, and you think they will go away? Who would fill those spots?

[@hassanarshad3805]

Chris Nettles no I don’t think they’ll go away, it’s just that “I’m about to shed light on this school’s predatory practices but ultimately not affect their profits” doesn’t make for as good of a punchline

[@MV-qw2dw]

@@jamesmcgwire849 apply to polish med schools. Cheaper , better and able to get residency in the US. Some schools allow student loans. Not many know of this option. It's often kept a secret.

[@littlejackalo5326]

@@chrisnettles3133 it's called quality over quantity.

[@heathertoomey7068]

My conclusion: Caribbean is LAST RESORT

[@angisonfire5464]

you always hear "dont go to the carrib" but damn this was THOROUGH lol now i know actual reasons not to go there

[@georgelampros4593]

I went to SGU for 6 months and it was a total joke stay away please

[@ninachan3067]

@@georgelampros4593 could u tell me what happen?

[@georgelampros4593]

@@ninachan3067 in a personal chat yes

[@nadiaalli]

@@georgelampros4593 can you please elaborate ...?

[@MA-tl2ht]

@@georgelampros4593 same here and seriously it was a complete joke.. saved my soul

[@mahidac]

Caribbean MD here, also a cardiology fellow currently - every student considering a Caribbean pathway for their MD should legit watch this video. Very well done

[@LilJbm1]

If you are the hopeful orthopod I want to say I respect you so much and much love, the blog was heartbreaking. If not I very much recommend reading that blog, the $1M mistake. Wonderful med student, wonderful resident, wonderful researcher it seemed, and all the points people make about you/the blogger being egotistical are not fair as the blog makes the clear point that even an insanely successful physician is just worse off at the Caribbean. I very much am a believer in objective metrics, the P/F reform of Step 1 will be terrible, and if you have the skills, and a heart in the right place, you'll make a great cardiologist!

[@kevincorrigan1754]

@@LilJbm1 is that the guy who wrote the million dollar blog?

[@LilJbm1]

@@kevincorrigan1754 Not sure but they were both Caribbean MDs and cardiology fellows so on the off chance they were the same person I wanted to share. How many Caribbean cardiology fellows are there in the states? A few dozen maybe?

[@littlegiant101]

I go to a Caribbean medical school, because I'm from the Caribbean and currently MS4 in the US, and I was on this one rotation, where the attending called all of us into a patient room and called on one of the students and asked him to identify the rash on a teenage patient. It was clear cut what the rash was but this student he called on didn't quite understood what he was asking, as the doctor him self had a very strong accent. The doctor got so upset and into front of the patient and he's mom said "JUST IGNORE THEM, THEY KNOW NOTHING, THEY'RE NOT FROM HERE, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK HERE!" I was shattered and felt extremely disrespected, I worked hard to get here, got amazing step1 and shelf scores and for this man to say "IMG's" know nothing!, I was crushed! Still crushed, I get teary eyed, every time I think of it!

[@MV-qw2dw]

What an ahole..

[@lovefunkrockmusic]

Yeah, that happens in healthcare. It’s a dog eat dog mentality. Just work hard and smart and prove that preceptor wrong

[@amretsekhon976]

Former Carib student, I was always told I was less than US grads for picking my path, but when I did, it was the option I had (I advise against it now bc of a lot of the challenges). Because I knew no one would take me seriously I WORKED my butt off and at times during fourth year was put in charge of training US MD/DOs on certain rotations. It sucks that people can just let our work speak for itself, you'll frequently be seen as "less than" purely for where you went to school. but Caribbean school made me more self-sufficient than a lot of our US counterparts, we had to struggle with admin that didn't care about us, take a lot into our own hands, and meet challenges most people in the US don't. It definitely makes you a stronger and more empathetic clinician in the end. also, all that being said, I loved living on the island. At the end of the day, not having a dozen poptart flavors to choose from at the grocery store isn't that big of a deal when you get to live in perfect weather all year round.

[@trcherrera]

@@amretsekhon976 Same sentiments here. This is relatable coming from a southeast asian physician. My take is that not everyone will eventually wanna work in the US which is I think consistent with what Dr. Jubbal was telling. I am for any medical school simply because we need more doctors than we actually have. Some go back to the US and some dont. Patients need doctors everywhere. Schools like SGU or any medical school offers a unique opportunity for those who decided to go there to rise above and be exposed for their particular challenges and it will end up contributing to their uniqueness as a physician and strengths in future I hope. So for physicians really wanting to be working in the US, then probably this advise sounds reasonable. But also consider the other side. Doctors who want to be doctors at their core need institutions for them to become one. Its up to them where to go from there and conquer that next step themselves.

[@failyourwaytothetop]

@@trcherrera You speak like a winner that will rise above any obstacles life has to offer.

[@rantianifowose4683]

I am in sgu so accurate

[@georgelampros4593]

sounds awful

[@Hepacivirus]

Is it that bad, I was thinking of applying over there

[@ScarfLess117]

Why would anyone expect a med school that is outside the US to have close to the same match rates as an american school? The US is going to favor or match more students from within their own country than outside. Also, any student that travels to another country and culture shock is causing them to drop out, then i don't think they knew what they were getting into and they small minded. How can you expect to leave a country as big as the US and expect a tiny island to come close to their lives back home? Why don't the US schools increase their class size?

[@sonnyreel289]

My daughter graduated from SGU and is now in residency. SGU has a campus in Grenada and England. Their home office is in New York, where all graduations are held. They are the only Caribbean school that is accredited with the US.

[@MikeSmith-zo6eu]

Let me tell you, being a SGU student. It don’t come easy, nothing is handed too you. It’s extra tough, and you have to want it. I didn’t get to 4th year by mistake, I worked my ass off. The people that fail out go and party and don’t study and fail term after term. U have to want it, it’s not going to be given to you.

[@luisalfredo74]

your right, i’m term 5 now in sgu and it takes hard work just to pass the exams and i’m not the best student

[@shl2133]

I agree. The drop out rate is high just because the incoming rate is too high. It doesn’t portray the incompetence of the school nor students who survived

[@Hepacivirus]

@@luisalfredo74 is it a good university, I was thinking about it

[@luisalfredo74]

Hepacivirus idk if its worth it anymore since step is pass/fail

[@Hepacivirus]

@@luisalfredo74 oh I see

[@philtastic1]

Kevin, you are the most ethical and moral premed advisor. Great job for staying unbiased and honest. I respect you so much brother!

[@venusd1946]

Thank you so much!!! YOU ARE THE BEST PRE-MED advisors!! This guy is like an investigative journalist!! In the premed world!!

[@kevinjubbalmd]

😂

[@smiley8106]

So true! I don’t waste my time with advisors anymore. Last time I saw an advisor was first semester freshman year lol. Then the rest was KZbin.