My Cholesterol Doubled on a Vegan Diet… As Predicted

[@cmills7308]

I am fascinated by this. I just completed my own N=1 LDL experiment. I normally eat on the keto/ketovore/carnivore spectrum. My BMI had gone from 34 to 27. 6 months ago, I had total cholesterol 292, HDL 75, trigs 91, LDL 196. This concerned my HCP who wanted it under 190 where it triggers the familial hypercholesterolemia algorithm. I researched NIH studies looking for foods that lowered LDL. For 3 weeks before my 6 month follow up labs, I increased carbs to about 75 daily. I added avocados, unsweetened green tea, walnuts, chia seeds, flax seed, CoQ10, more fish, less butter and tallow, more monounsaturated oils like avocado and macadamia. Results were not that impressive. Total cholesterol 260, HDL 64, trigs 106, LDL 173. I felt far better on 0-20 carbs and little to no fiber.

[@gray45374]

Superb video. Had me laughing in places. Thanks for taking one for the team! 😂 Seriously though, good to see the prediction pan out. Yet another win for the LEM. I'm excited about where this is going.

[@lloydhlavac6807]

Dave, I love these N=1 diet experiments that both you & Nick do. I've done a little bit myself, though it's too expensive to do as many as I'd like. Last Christmas time I did a month long experiment eating all the junk food I wanted. Candy, regular ice cream, pie, cookies, chips, whatever. I am normally low carb/keto/carnivore for about 6 years now, so that was a total switch up for me to suddenly go super high carb. Did blood tests before, during and after, and discovered my LDL went down quite a bit, though not as dramatically as Nick's in his Oreo cookie experiment. Oddly enough, I figured my (hs)C-RP might skyrocket too, after a month of inflammatory junk food, but it never went above 0.5 (anything below 1 is considered ok), and in fact toward the end of the experiment dropped a little to 0.4, while on low carb it's 0.14 My HDL remained higher then my triglycerides, and my LDL remained mostly large pattern A, and Lp(a) 14, though my ApoB was 158. And yeah, while I enjoyed the food, it did make me feel like crap, not to mention putting on quite a few pounds.

[@BEASTIES50]

Excellent work yet again Dave. Keep discovering and educating please.

[@firstchoicefarm7767]

I'm glad that Dave and Nick have shown that being a LMHR is not just someone that is eating too much saturated fat. I've had a cardiologist insisted that my high LDL was just from me eating too much saturated fat. He had no clue what a LMHR was.

[@creinicke1000]

I hope that the younger generation of doctors will have studies and evidence to show how LDL is just a sympton.. not nessesary the cause of anything. In the times we live in we are blessed to have researchers who are doing good science.

[@CharlieFader]

@@firstchoicefarm7767 most people consuming low-carb diets are eating too much saturated fats and cholesterol, so it would be reasonable to assume that it would be the case. This doesn’t mean that there would be no other explanation for a specific case.

[@firstchoicefarm7767]

@CharlieFader Data doesn't necessarily support what you say. There is evidence that saturated fat can slightly increase LDL in some people, but nothing coming close to a LMHR. I have reduced my saturated fat to show that my LDL doesn't come down. Virta and many doctors consider saturated fat a healthier fat.

[@CharlieFader]

@ first of all, scientific data clearly supports what I wrote, but maybe you misunderstood that I actually wrote. Saying that limiting saturated fat, (along with trans fat and cholesterol) increases LDL less than what can be observed to a LMHR that goes in and out of keto, is irrelevant to my point. A doctor would be right to assume that you are one of the many people following low-carb diets that end up with high LDL because of their consumption of saturated fat (along with trans fat and cholesterol) and not a very specific part of the population (LMHR) that does keto. Given his everyday clinical experience (and scientific knowledge), it would not reasonable to assume right off the bat that you’re an outlier. Lastly, I could care less what Virta Health and some contrarian doctor may claim.

[@firstchoicefarm7767]

@CharlieFader so me a single study that shows someone other than a LMHR can increase their LDL more than 300. You're not a scientist if you dismiss data from an organization which tracks tens of thousands of people on a ketogenic diet.

[@jessrx1]

Wow- nice video! Getting so fancy and polished.

[@dacisky]

I love this stuff. Made my day.

[@H4KnSL4K]

Nicely explained - thanks!

[@charlieruisseau2476]

Love the format!

[@therealbenyu]

Nice production value Dave 👌

[@realDaveFeldman]

First time trying it in a @nicknorwitz -style

[@acke26]

​@@realDaveFeldman- hi Dave, thanks for yet another highly interesting video. I'd like to have your thought (not medical advice or recommendation) on how I should relate to my cholesterol levels. I'm a hyperabsorber since my cholesterol skyrocket on a lowcarb diet. (I'm lean. Seems like I can't store visceral fat or ectopic fat) But it serms like I'm not metabolically healthy. My triglycerides are ok but my HDL is always low (ap 20 mg/dl) Should I keep on going with a lowcarb diet or add carbs to lower my LDL ? Do you know why my HDL is low ?

[@therealbenyu]

@@acke26 try eating more animal fats and exercising more

[@docgl8301]

So glad to hear your results of this n=1 trial. What "food choices" aka diet, have you returned to now?

[@Rob-w5p]

Thx Dave, very clearly explained

[@rodedc]

NIcely done, keep it up, along with Nick, lots of good info ...

[@richardmathews8250]

Great video Dave. Do you have the HDL and Trigs for both diets that you could share with us?

[@claudiawilkinson8769]

I tried the fasting mimicking diet for 5 days a few years ago - basically 500kcal of vegan food per day. On the fifth morning I went to the butchers to buy the meat for the weekend and never before have I found the smell of raw meat and fresh blood appetising! It was all I could to stop myself leaping over the counter and gorging on red meat there and then - that’s when I knew I was a carnivore at heart!

[@MeatHeals]

Nice. I have a feeling someone has a new video editor :-)

[@realDaveFeldman]

Suspicion confirmed

[@karolinabroda8688]

Great video! What do you use for these experiments to measure your lipids? ☺

[@espinosalexis]

Does your model predicts what would happen to your lipid panel if you continue eating SAD for a long time? We know you'll get sick, insulin resistant, metabolically ill, but does the model also predicts all the transition usually observed in lipid marks?

[@RussBrown-sj7tx]

Me as well. Junk food diet is the best for me. LDL was 82. My Dr was thrilled. As a carnivore my LDL is 250. My Dr thinks I'm a walking time bomb...

[@BenjaminKuruga]

Meanwhile "I feel like shit on my other diet, but great on this one".

[@steakovercake3986]

You are telling me your ldl was lower on a junk food diet??? Im assuming you ate meat on the junk food diet no?

[@RussBrown-sj7tx]

@steakovercake3986 I ate all junk. Hardly any meat. Mostly processed carbohydrates, sugar junk. LDL was 82 Dr thrilled. I went carnivore cut out the sugar/ carbs. LDL 250. DR Thinks I'm gonna have a heart attack soon.

[@CharlieFader]

what is the point of that statement though? For example on a whole foods plant-based diet my LDL under is 60. That's ideal according to top cardiologist and lipidologists.

[@RussBrown-sj7tx]

@CharlieFader that's fantastic! I'm not particularly crazy about eating "plants" They don't agree with me. Sadly, Heart Disease has been 1 killer for 100 years in a row, even though top "experts" give such helpful advice.

[@leandrocaara]

My LDL-C has dropped from 138 to less than 80 when I started eating a plant based diet, and 3 years later, it kept low.

[@robyn3349]

Thank you!

[@jasonvaughn1658]

'N of 1' ROCKS! 😎 Thnx-a-Ton for not letting the conversation go silent and for keeping it thought provoking and relevant!👊

[@roberts3889]

I’d like to see the data after several weeks or months on the plant based diet. My gut (pun intended) tells me the one week results were just an adjustment to a different metabolic state.

[@Technichian462]

This would be a good time to also point out that high LDL is NOT A PROBLEM.

[@AlfredoShrimp-e4h]

I wish I could buy into this but im just too worried about my health

[@Technichian462]

@ then just dont eat any carbs/plants. The toxin they bring far outweigh any so called benefits

[@ellocodos]

Were you drinking coconut oil?

[@떡볶이나리]

Nice editing ~ !

[@falsie178]

Hey! Just a quick question. On the margerine and plant based cooking oils they sell here it says on the packaging they lower cholesterol. From Paul Mason i learned that phytosterols lower your cholesterol. Would an factor in your research be that the junkfood you ate was made with / fried in seed oils and thus lower your cholesterol even more?

[@hellcraig54]

Credit to you and Nick for using N=1 as a way of uncovering new evidence in the nutrition hypothesis. As an N=1 however it must be said that your experiments are far too short to gain meaningful data into your Lipid Energy Model. I would love to see your results in conducting this experiment over months to test the robustness of your theory. I believe one week or month is far too short for our human body to adapt to the changes in diet for the sake of experimentation! I put this to you as challenge.

[@bradfordsimms715]

Thanks Dave great work again

[@pfavr]

Great work!

[@patrice2288]

I applaud--finally a short and simple version!!

[@espinosalexis]

I hope you can fix the video and add your real starting point!: you are starting as a keto LMHR. Your starting point is a metabolically healthy LMHR eating low carb and showing very high LDL. This is important because metabolically healthy people are really scarce now a days! Then your model predicts that LDL will go down adding carbs (SAD diet for two weeks) and that LDL will go up again by dropping carbs and going keto (vegan or not).

[@firstchoicefarm7767]

I agree that for someone new to the LEM this video is a little too short. Adding the background would have helped some people.

[@zamirapaez]

I’m curious about the other markers.

[@scotthamlin9718]

Very interesting. I knew keto meat based raises cholesterol, I to am LMHR but didn’t think about vegan keto doing the same thing.

[@Malcolm-Achtman]

At 1:20 in this video Dave says his "lipids were in the optimal range on the junk food diet," with an LDL of 97 mg/dL. Maybe we have to rethink what an optimal LDL level is. Because we've now seen it rise well above 200 mg/dL whether you go meat-based keto or vegan keto. And both of these diets are a lot healthier than the junky Standard American Diet. So, what I'm saying is we need to be saying that an LDL of closer to 200 mg/dL is optimal. An LDL of 97 mg/dL could suggest that something is seriously wrong with your diet.

[@Theawakelady]

Go back in history and try to find the numbers...the real ones! You will be surprise as today these numbers allow doctors to prescribed statins! If only people knew 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

Agreed. Data shows that too.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Optimal LDL is something like 50mg/dl because heart disease stops progressing at those low levels. Study: "Optimal low-density lipoprotein is 50 to 70 mg/dl: Lower is better and physiologically normal" If a persons LDL goes higher on vegan diet, something odd is happening with them because it doesn't happen with most people. There is a diet swap even here on KZbin, where the exact opposite results were observed: "28-Day CARNIVORE vs VEGAN Diet Swap - Results Revealed". But I guess it's the keto that is messing with the LDL numbers like Dave says.

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

@cyberfunk3793 what's keto?

[@cyberfunk3793]

@@LowCarbLowDrama keto diet as in low carb.

[@simonwiltshire7089]

What were your TG’s?. The formula for calculating your LDL will mean that if your TG’s go up then your LDL will go down. Total Cholesterol = HDL +LDL + TG/2.2 (its 2.2 in the UK, different in the US)

[@ashhhh0333]

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[@jonas000111]

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[@kelleyfrances490]

Thanks from a non-scientist. Is pushback from shorter N = 1 experiments warranted? If the near instant results from a CGM gives us valuable info why can't experiments lasting just a week be as significant?

[@HuniHu-x2q]

I do a lot of these n of 1 because I try to look for the most suitable answer for myself in terms of a certain answer. Productivity-wise this perhaps is the most effective way since an individual is probably not like those participants in human studies. Not for truth, just for something that works

[@realDaveFeldman]

Yep -- in the end, we're all doing an n=1 anyway.

[@rrrlasse2]

Just to be clear: The rise in LDL was due to the weight loss? I.e. you could have increased LDL by losing weight on carnivore diet too?

[@binathere2574]

Just to be clear, that is not the only reason for elevated ldl. There are many.

[@CvoreAthlete]

Nobel prize!!!! 🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇

[@pietwentzel007]

Same with me...went Vegan as high cholesterol for years at end...Vegan and my markers went opposite as what I expect. Mostly my HDL that tanked down to 8. And then the drama started in stuffing Plant matter down my neck: Brain fog. Foggy vision with black circles floating in my vision. Vision became slow....like watching things in slow motion. Restless Legs. Bloated 24/7. Headaches went into a different stratosphere. I had to stop Vegan after 9 months. Went Carnivore and everything reversed in 2 months. Lost 40 lbs. AND now my LDL went crazzzy high. Hitting in excess of 500. So was so stressed about possible "build up" after years running LDL of around the 350 mark and now going over 500. CT Scan later my results were....3. Yes 3. NO buildup & NO issues found during the CT Scan. My Dr had no answers as she thought I was totally "blocked up". Thanks doc I will again not take any statins !!!! Go figure !!!!

[@binathere2574]

You avoided the problem instead of healing it by going carnivore

[@railgungd]

Seems to confirm LDL isn’t the cause of arterial plaque, but inflammation is, coming from the carbs

[@Dr_Boult]

Well done. It would be good to know how the vegan keto. LDL. compared to your regular Keto LDL?

[@realDaveFeldman]

My regular keto changes a lot, but is mostly carnivore-ish.

[@btudrus]

@@realDaveFeldman and ldl levels when on carnivore?

[@untio]

So what is the best diet?

[@stevelanghorn1407]

Dave : Have you ever been genetically tested for Homozygous Phytosterolaemia?

[@peterbedford2610]

Get a CardioRisk CIMT. It will actually show if you have soft plaque.

[@MJ-hl1kk]

Yup, I have been a carb-eater all my life, meat constituting about 40% of my diet, yet I suffer from high LDL cholesterol of 300 plus.

[@yshraybman]

high LDL has no symptoms. are you not suffering.

[@sasharamirez2335]

Commenting for engagement. This is heads and shoulders better info and discussion on exactly how these metabolism things work. The mechanistic explanations prior to Dave's (and company) work, have been quite frankly, lacking. .

[@yclana1]

I thought he was a lean mass hyper responder on the keto diet. But here he says his LDL was at 97 before he went on this experiment. How come? Is an LDL of 97 high or normal?

[@enila1212]

Here he was on the standard American diet, not keto, then vegan

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

After a week of burning carbs for fuel by eating SAD, Dave switched to burning fat for fuel by switching back to a ketogenic diet, except it was a plant-based ketogenic diet, so you can see why your body does what it does when you switch fuel sources.

[@Rocketscientist66]

Did you enjoy it Dave? Was the SAD diet as good as you remembered it? Or was the vegan better? Did you have to force it all down? I know I couldn’t have done it. Sometimes I joke and say, if you want to torture me, tie me up and feed me sugar & carbs 😆But thanks for doing this study!

[@chuckleezodiac24]

hmmmm, after eating high carbs on Thanksgiving and pizza on Sunday, i've been having the same symptoms as Dave: afternoon crashes, disrupted sleep, waking up non-rested, acid reflux and feeling like crap. i wonder if it could be diet-related?

[@2006evita]

will this happen to somebody that is not a LMHR?

[@maartje3262]

Wish I could heal and know what to do foodwise so many opinions and praying for direction and healing for so long and Just getting worse and more disease and uncurable progressive damage and dont know what to do foodwise..also many opinions in whole food

[@freedomfighter4990]

215 mg/dl in 1 week - that's CRAZY! And Vegans never admit to having high cholesterol. It must feel good to have your name a published medical paper like that! 👍🏽Thanks for posting & explaining this.

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

Maybe those vegans are chomping down spades of grains & grainy products (🌾🍚🍟🥖🥨)everyday and not doing a keto version by keeping their carbs super low. They’re pretty aggressive too. Various studies including RCTs on both humans and animals show that low cholesterol levels reduce central serotonin activity, which increases aggression-something frequently observed in the vegan community.

[@MDL.720]

Hardly any keto vegans. But that’s not the point of the experiment anyway.

[@ridgeisland]

Hi, Vegan here with a sky high cholesterol. No problem in admitting that.

[@freedomfighter4990]

@@ridgeisland But no heart blockages either, right? Because cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease.

[@ridgeisland]

​@@freedomfighter4990 True. What matters is the lipoproteins (ApoB). But high cholesterol is a good indication of an high ApoB (Usually). So it's a red flag for sure but not definitive.

[@Bazza1968]

I have 400+ LDL, HDL >65 and TGL 45-55 when on carnivore/keto. Heck for a laugh I tried Nick N's Oreos on steroids diet- as in I went ULTRA low fat high carb- rice, potatoes, tuna, chicken breast and as little oil/fat as I could (nothing added) and was impressed (not) to see my LDL drop to "just" 260 in 6 months, tanking my HDL down to 30 and elevating my TGL to 143 and adding 10 pounds despite 500 miles a month on the bike (it was great energy for that for sure, better than dead leg Zone 2 city on low carb)....I'm just eating a low(100g max) carb clean diet from hereon...wish I'd never seen any of these damn videos now...

[@violetteyolandeweiss3704]

me too now going for 100g carbs or 3 small bowls pasta per day

[@fluttershy77x]

Nice! Did you have measure HDL in both cases?

[@realDaveFeldman]

I did. I may have a longer video that goes over more of those details later.

[@fluttershy77x]

@realDaveFeldman Nice! Mind to share the results here quickly? I would imagine low HDL with SAD, but a lot higher with the keto diet. I'd be interested to see the HDL/LDL ratio in both cases.

[@madhuclgowda1790]

I agree this test, because, i was regular exercise or atleast some walk or working in farm guy, when i did move to my work life i did fasting and shifted to vegan to lose weight then i did my cholesterol check up and found i had more LDL. And previously i was a non vegan who used to have 1 or 2 meat based meal a week but i didn't know what my cholesterol level was.

[@joumanayehia6573]

My total cholesterol is 727 and my ldl is 350 hdl 89 & tri 125. My doctor definitely thinks I’m a walking time bomb.

[@BeefNEggs057]

Nice work. Lean and fit I bet.

[@joumanayehia6573]

I am lean but a bit concerned with these numbers tbh

[@nickchristopherson6162]

I WATCH BOTH NICK BROTHERS..PHYSONIC...MY TOTAL CHOLESTEROL WENT FROM 278 TO 162 ON VEGAN DIET SO IT DOES DEPEND ON THE PERSON...WONDER WHAT WAS THE WASHOUT TIME BETWEEN DIET TRIALS BECAUSE THE CHOLESTEROL WILL CARRY OVER WITHOUT THE PROPER TIME

[@yshraybman]

I still do not understand why there is a focus on LDL. LDL number by itself is meaningless. More important is which foods cause artery inflammation. If someone has artery inflammation they will get plaque buildup no matter what their LDL level is.

[@HeavilyForkedBardsWar]

I cannot see how you can make conclusions by all these small short term changes, without giving your body more time to adapt. All you see is only how your body manages within a phase of transition.

[@realDaveFeldman]

But that's baked into the conclusions as it was discussed. As with all experiments, the time taken for the intervention should always be considered.

[@erickeytie173]

Oh, vegans don't agree with information that they've spent 60 years twisting ?? Harvard scientists were paid off in the 1960s to blame fat instead of sugar

[@DeviatingVapors]

mother’s milk changes daily based on what is consumed (and avoided), so random spot checks reveal diff numbers. your body is constantly reacting ... these tests are probing into the why. cholesterols are there (and necessary). what is optimal (or dangerous) is the debate since the 1950s, but the tinkering started way way back. in 1492 .. 1869 .. and 1908-1946. very interesting what food rationing brought out of various populations. still. so much to uncover.

[@binathere2574]

​@@DeviatingVapors I have a theory that food rationing caused mothers to be depleted in many things causing their babies to have issues that only show up in mid life.

[@sandrostumpo3779]

As most humans would most people’s cholesterol drops in half and ldl drops fast when eating low fat whole food vegan. I am so worried for many Americans eating heart attack and cancer causing diets.

[@EricAnimeFreak]

Such as ones that contribute to glucose toxicity, elevated insulin levels, hormonal imbalance, and high levels of inflammation?

[@sandrostumpo3779]

​@@EricAnimeFreak Yes high blood glucose is bad. I eat very high fiber (2-3 lbs of raw cruciferous per day and good amount of ground flax seed and a little chia, a little sprouted lentils) and I’m able to eat 4 or 5 fruits with each meal and my glucose is around 110 one and two hours after a meal. I have to follow the Dr. Brooke Goldner diet to cure my symptoms of autoimmune disease. Right now in colder season, my immune system can have a flare up so I increase flax and kale smoothies and cut fruit down to 3 fruit per meal. It works great. I don’t have to take those horrible immune blocking meds. Before going raw, my liver enzymes were very high and some white blood cells were low, and fingers were so swollen and on fire. Lots of pain for months until I ate the rapid recovery diet of dr. Goldner. Now liver is fine, normal white blood cells. My calcium, protein and iron levels are on the higher end of normal, and fingers are way better than before and keep healing everyday. I used to eat a good amount of egg whites, fish, fish oil, and chicken breast with lots of healthy plant based food. My health kept getting worse even on an vegan diet with cooked food until I went on a specific raw vegan diet that focuses on green leafy cruciferous like kale plus other powerhouse cruciferous like broccoli and cauliflower and fresh ground flax. Then things kept getting better. Regular people can eat cooked food but again, less animal protein equals longer life- Blue zones. Try getting a complete blood panel after one year eating a certain diet then switch diets and let your own numbers tell you the truth. If people did this the mystery of what diet is the healthiest would be over. I wish everyone reading this good health.

[@binathere2574]

I eat very low fat and whole food. My ldl is slightly elevated. For me it's not food related. Probably vitamin related.

[@ridgeisland]

Vegan with a sky high LDL here. Dr want's to prescribe statins. Do I need them?

[@binathere2574]

Statins are useless and dangerous. Check your all B vitamins status.

[@yshraybman]

Doc wants to make money. if he prescribes statins then he has to see you every 3 months or so. do your own research and decide for yourself. no one here is qualified to give medical advice.

[@ridgeisland]

@@yshraybman I started taking red yeast rice. Seems to be working and my doctor is happy.

[@misilen24]

Do you have your own cholesterol meter. I have one. Very interesting.

[@btudrus]

not very accurate

[@realDaveFeldman]

Yes, PTS diagnostics - CardioChek

[@marekm9647]

Sow hat is the message? Is this LDL on vegan dangerous?

[@Bazza1968]

That seems a bit pig headed ....

[@LucasTigy2]

do you have a link to this experiment so i could read about it in more depth?

[@realDaveFeldman]

If there's enough interest, I may have a bigger write up in the future, but this video covered the major highlights. That said, I may do a longer vlog-style video where I answer common questions of interest on it.

[@LucasTigy2]

@@realDaveFeldman i was just curious how soon your LDL went up. i don't know how many times you measured your lipids, but but i'm always fascinated to see how quickly they can change

[@cuteface88]

Why is cholesterol bad?

[@nathanpeel6975]

Washout period?

[@Youtubedisco]

I'm on keto. I too have high ldl, 176

[@Bazza1968]

That aint high, mine's over 400....

[@thomasgronek6469]

After three days of high fat HDL = 57. Triglycerides = 59

[@chrisk8978]

Another interesting show! But one word I kept waiting for was “whole-food” before vegan. I’m not a vegan, but I am a strict whole-food eater. Anecdotally, I know of plenty of overweight and unhealthy vegans, but not one whole-food vegan who is anything less than physically perfect. Am I just wrong about this distinction?

[@mowthpeece1]

Nick showed us his LDL went up while vegan because, like you, calories drop significantly resulting in mobilizing (losing) fat...so you need more LDL. That LDL is serving as a pizza box rather than a marauding killer through our system is one of the most incredible findings we've heard in ages. You guys are doing amazing work, no matter what some moody (read: envious) doctors say. You are empowering us to alter our own lipid levels for the better by understanding what is happening. Thank you so much for this!

[@realDaveFeldman]

Yes, more and more people are starting to recognize the important connection of fat mobilization as pertains to lipoproteins when, of course, you are fueled much more by fat itself.

[@luckyhanger1326]

I went on a high carb low fat diet, my LDL is 48, my trigs are 52.

[@cuteface88]

RIP your health

[@adim00lah]

@@cuteface88 This is actually how hunter gathers eat for the most part. It's not easy to get high amounts of fat in nature. Wild game and fish are low in fat.

[@cuteface88]

@@adim00lah Sure, an unsuccessful hunter struggles to eat meat every day. But why are you wanting to replicate an unsuccessful hunter? Nature punishes you for being weak and rewards you for being strong.

[@adim00lah]

@@cuteface88 To the tsimane tribe, who eats a 85% plant based diet, who have the healthiest hearts known to science, are being punished with good heart health? If the lowest rates of atherosclerosis of any demographic on earth is a punishment, then give me the punishment.

[@zerkzy842]

Here’s my diet - Eat and drink whatever u want, just a lot less of it. No need to eat ‘heathy’, a calorie is a calorie

[@critter4004]

Goodie for you... but that just doesn't work for a lot of us.

[@binathere2574]

That will be the last video I watch of this person.

[@jillhulbert2341]

It was keto vegan diet ???

[@veganradiation]

Its unfortunate that this individuals experience with a vegan diet didnt align with their expectations, but Id love to learn more about their specific choices and how they were implemented to better understand their outcome. Ultimately, a well-planned vegan lifestyle can be incredibly beneficial for overall health and the environment!

[@sovereignmedia1885]

Most probably neither ...

[@lloydhlavac6807]

So can a well planned carnivore diet, both for overall health and the environment.

[@robertbrown6531]

Not the place to make a reasonable, rational, sensible statement.

[@leenysnell8804]

If you relisten to the video you will hear that he expected these results. Don't forget it was keto vegan, so not standard.

[@cuteface88]

You have dark eye circles, under eye bags, pale skin, forehead wrinkles that go pretty deep... what makes you think you're healthy? You're not fat?

[@PaulWilson-t5n]

That is real science n=1

[@carnigoth]

Thanks for your sacrifice lol

[@chuckleezodiac24]

bro, what's up with your eyebrows? have you checked your thyroid? keep up the great work!

[@Bazza1968]

Looks like Hashimotos and he looks a bit bloated for a thin chap...

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

After a week of burning carbs for fuel by eating SAD, Dave switched to burning fat for fuel by switching back to a ketogenic diet, except it was a plant-based ketogenic diet, so you can see why your body does what it does when you switch fuel sources. Unlike the lipid-heart hypothesis, an unfounded opinion, the Lipid Energy Model seems more in tune with our physiology.

[@CharlieFader]

you mean for a specific part of the population that is eating keto.

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

@CharlieFader Probably, but at least the gnarly, unproven diet-heart hypothesis remains just that-a hypothesis. Waiting for some science to come out of these and other experiments.

[@CharlieFader]

@@LowCarbLowDrama you fail to see that the lipid-heart hypothesis works for most people, while the lipid energy model is just for the outliers. Therefore it’s almost irrelevant.

[@LowCarbLowDrama]

@CharlieFader There isn't a single interventional study that shows the diet-heart hypothesis is real science that proves a causative link. Share it if you've come across one.

[@CharlieFader]

@ you already claimed that there isn’t. So that would be impossible right? Or that you have no idea what you’re talking about, I guess. So, let’s first see, what you actually mean by that. What are you asking exactly? An interventional study that shows that when you replace saturated fats with unsaturated, there’s an LDL drop? Is that it?

[@robertbrown6531]

If you water fast, your cholesterol will also shoot up with zero calories, zero carbs. When the body is short of calories, it mobilises fat and cholesterol for fuel but no its apparently the fault of the vegan diet.

[@OIOnaut]

You are the nails in the coffin of Thomas Dayspring ;)

[@fredsmit3481]

Dave, what where your ketone measurements? Hopefully you measured ketones to ensure you were on a real keto diet and not a fake keto diet. Measuring ketones is real scientific data. Calling a random diet keto without measuring ketones is bad science.

[@realDaveFeldman]

I did, but that didn't make it into the script. I think I was up at around the 1.5 mm range when into the plantbased side.

[@fredsmit3481]

@@realDaveFeldman Dave, that is great news! For me, knowing that makes your findings even more significant.

[@veronicaheaney3464]

Love N=1! Helps me know Me!

[@adim00lah]

Ldl skyrocketed because of lower calories not due to your diet being vegan. These sensationalist headlines are misleading.

[@laurapoirier741]

That makes zero sense and other doctors talk about with LDL being high is a good thing and even yourself

[@finetrue]

So this is what my PCP is trying to sell to me, Lipitor and vegan. I will show her that this won’t work for me as an LMHR. Thank you!

[@CharlieFader]

you mean as a LMHR that does keto?

[@finetrue]

I am doing low-carb, which keeps my LDL around 200😅, but I eat animal protein and animal fat mainly

[@petercyr3508]

This one I dont understand. I thought high carbs stopped fat burning, lowered LDL and raised TG. Your symptoms are from not being in ketosis. Oh wait. You went to a low carb vegan diet. I get it.

[@StyleshStorm]

TG? Are Carbs the #1 enemy matter the diet?

[@julioandresgomez3201]

That would never happen on a low fat diet, or even on a moderate fat diet.

[@CoachColeR]

Because you already had high cholesterol before the Vegan diet.

[@michaelchristensen2786]

Vegan keto is not easy. It would be interesting to have more details on exactly what you ate. For example, coconut oil and/or palm oil are keto and vegan but they are also known to raise ldl levels and clog arteries. I think the devil is in the details here.

[@michaelchristensen2786]

The other important factor is calorie restriction. If you're restricting calories that will tend to increase LDL as well. Nonetheless, interesting work and I enjoyed the video.

[@KirstiCheetahh]

High LDL is healthy, so congrats! My French cardiologist does not know LMHR and not even knows the importance of triglycerides, let alone the TG/HDL ratio.

[@mlaroche2009]

just be honest, you wanted guilt free pizza 🍕😆

[@ivantodorov8850]

alg

[@DK-pr9ny]

But who cares because LDL isn't causal right? Round and round we go lol...

[@ratherrapid]

1st ive seen To support that poly fat just as harmful as sat. fat

[@Ge1Ri4]

Saturated fat isn't harmful. Time to catch up with the research!

[@ratherrapid]

@@Ge1Ri4 yes u might consider looking at the research and report back

[@Ge1Ri4]

@@ratherrapid I have. Maybe you should take your own advice before commenting.

[@ratherrapid]

@@Ge1Ri4 ive read the reaearch and watched the disingenuous feldman for years fyi

[@Wedgebiggs]

Clickbait video ffs, why omit the KETO part in the title?

[@BeefNEggs057]

The farty ass diet is torture. Your bowels tell you it’s just wrong for humans.

[@ridgeisland]

Nah. Every major diet change takes time to adjust.

[@Shakerhood69]

Exactly, I have IBS-D and Veggies and Fiber are extremely inflammatory.

[@adelarsen9776]

When you have 1000's of anecdotes all the same you have defensible hypothesis. 7 days without beef makes one weak.

[@EricAnimeFreak]

A stronger association does lead to an easier to defend opinion, but an opinion none the less. I agree that beef makes you stronger, healthier, and live longer based on my own personal experience and anecdote. I don't want to accidentally try to insinuate my anecdotes are causal like a lot of misguided scientists accidentally do while in the presence of big food lobbyists paying their salaries sometimes do.

[@adelarsen9776]

@@EricAnimeFreak Yes, science is corrupted by money. I got healthy eating only fatty red meat, salt and water. I wish you good health and prosperity.

[@Lady.Starlight.]

Imagine being this adamant to try and justify your animal abuse habits, only to have other animal abusers parrot you and say, "oh, you're so right... I was vegan for... and... as a 'carnivore'" Nonsense, all of it. I'm in the best health I've been in my life in the over 4 years I've been vegan, and I'll be vegan for life because for one I have no reason not to be vegan; it's good for the animals, my health, and the planet. You're feeding your audience lies and enabling animal abuse for likes/comments/money, pretty gross honestly. My cholesterol is astronomically low, my iron intake has improved since being vegan and I was anemic most of my life(still am but it's manageable now), and protein intake is better now because I'm putting non carcinogenic garbage(inversely, healthy) proteins into my body. Go vegan, and stop lying.