100% all of this would of been “not worth it” if you didn’t do all the social media. If anyone else thinks this is a good idea, think again. If you did this without social it would be a nightmare
@justinrink6755 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of equity is still gained from this type of project without the social media side of it and if you enjoy building, it can still be plenty worth it. I think it just comes down to what types of passions people have in their lives and what they want to pursue
@ChrisbeFoSerious Жыл бұрын
Doing ANYTHING without socials in 2023 is a bozo move.
@jonathansage2147 Жыл бұрын
I mean... because he put in sweat equity, even without ever renting it, he was already up $200k. I disagree.
@DoingNothingKing Жыл бұрын
@@justinrink6755 why is the main KZbin liking this? It isn’t a jabbed and him disagreeing is a naive/stubborn move. If he disagrees with thinking this isn’t a “bad financial move” without blasting you’re project on social, extreme stubbornness. He has well over 700k-800k+ into this, and that’s him doing majority of the labor work which saved hundreds of thousands. But he believes he could sell for “1mill+” hard to dispute or argue but I would think around the $550k-750k max range. Especially with property going down. If it wasn’t for the social exposer, yes this would be a loss if you’re outcome is only financial gains which is the point. And no other reasonings/Munda things like “life lessons gain from this counts for more” only taking about financial gains/lose. Kind of shock he agrees he would of been a good decision/financial move even without social exposure. Denial isn’t just a river lol but no hate just bringing up a valid point. Extremely jealous/amazed about ur tenacity,motivation and all above. Just stating these compliments to make my point/topic only about “if this would work financially without big social media exposure”
@MRainy-ot7rc Жыл бұрын
I mean u nedd social media to help any business
@justinrink6755 Жыл бұрын
Dude massive props on all this. I love the utter honesty about all of this. My wife and I have a few real estate investments so I can relate to your feelings on questioning whether it's worth it. And your property taxes are only 3k for the whole year?? that's phenomenal. Happy to see you doing well brother
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Justin! What up dude, it's been a bit. You mainly doing long term rentals or you starting to dabble in the STR game? As for the property taxes... that's one benefit to building new construction. The county assumes it takes 16 months so if you can build it quicker you only have to pay taxes on the land as if it's vacant undeveloped land. So next year it's going to go up by a chunk 😅
@justinrink6755 Жыл бұрын
@@devonloerop we've got two condos we plan on renting out long term so still learning a ton about how this all works. Might look into STR eventually but for now, we've got our hands plenty full lol. Seems like STR and long term are pretty similar in terms of responsibility and equity building
@ShelbyChurch Жыл бұрын
great breakdown!! At least most of those expenses are for the full year, considering that it doesn't seem bad!
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, April is looking so much better already. Now I just gotta do what you're doing and get solar to get rid of that energy bill.
@jeremybabajan1811 Жыл бұрын
More commonly referred to as clickbait.
@Tyshark Жыл бұрын
"Was it worth it?".... NO QUESTION! You learned SO much that you will carry with you always! It was absolutely worth it!. AND... I hope you make money on the project so its worth it.
@joelhenry4643 Жыл бұрын
I think you overextended yourself on this project but it takes balls to go all the way first go around but you pulled it off and got it running. That is impressive in it's own right.😌
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Care to explain a bit? This asset will most likely value around 900-1mill which means I've created $150-250k in equity from thin air and it's cash flowing over $100k per year
@joelhenry4643 Жыл бұрын
@@devonloerop You know better than me that's for sure.. I just would have started on a smaller project is all I meant to say. I don't know the numbers.
@jwr3289 Жыл бұрын
He literally walks you through all the numbers and his 3 biggest expenses were annual payments, if it keeps up occumpancy rates like this for a while he could retire on this one build. Fair play
@chiefpanda7040 Жыл бұрын
@@devonloerop I couldn't think of a single person other then yourself who would purchase this for 1 mil
@nikbulla1677 Жыл бұрын
@@devonloerop i bought a property at the wineries and partly flipped it to accommodate atleast 10ppl. focused on the home experience for customers, amenities and family entertainment, luxury without spending on expensive brands going for $1k/night on peak days. i feel like you exerted too much effort building the home but understated your bnb rates. i gave myself 3mos to run the flip and launched in time for the peak season. the equity you built is assumed IF you sell it right now. in reality, your real financial cashflow is running red. i love the effort but as a fellow bnb person, i suggest focus on why you want your customers spending the night at your build, what to do, entertain, and give them one heck of an unforgettable experience, and ALWAYS be 2 steps ahead of what people need. and then UP your rates. boost that bottom line man. go get it!
@marcvives9259 Жыл бұрын
If you are on 100% occupancy raise prices!! Especially on the weekends and holidays!!
@MidwesttreasuresKC Жыл бұрын
What loan program did you utilize on your build? Did you have an appraisal complete before loan approval?
@waylontay Жыл бұрын
Great job man! Thanks for being transparent with all the numbers!
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Of course, so many people hide their numbers and are either afraid to say they lost money or are weird about showing how much they actually make.
@Skillzvideos Жыл бұрын
You need to make it a minimum amount of days stay of like 3 or 4 that way the expensive cleaners don’t have to come every single day
@KevinFremon Жыл бұрын
Love and appreciate the transparency throughout your journey. Keep it going…
@granthaley9258 Жыл бұрын
Winter will be even worse, don’t make any more risks yet, looks like your doing good though, especially if you have family as a safety net, good work man.
@OctaneStreet Жыл бұрын
Such a good video breaking it all down. Continue doing content like this cuz it'll definitely help turn this whole project into a huge profit long-term! Keep sharing your knowledge and breaking these numbers down brother! Super duper dope content.
@lukashku7454 Жыл бұрын
A property like this out by me on eastern long island would easily fetch $1200/night during the summer months. $1500/night easily if you added a pool. I have a family friend who has an 1800sq ft house thats literally uglier then this and is just a box shape with a pool and a hut tub and from Memorial day to labor day they are booked the whole time for $1800-$2000 a night
@taylorlightfoot Жыл бұрын
Hosting is a difficult business and having consistency on cleanings and catching damage BEFORE a new guest checks in will be a big challenge. The ski season is also ending; I'd be interested to see if you get more ski visitors or more hiking/fishing guests. You have built something relatively unique for the area though and that will help attract guests.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard from other hosts in the area that summer is typically the high season and that the early spring/May is typically a bit lighter on occupancy.
@taylorlightfoot Жыл бұрын
@@devonloerop Keep making videos about how the occupancy is going. I have a long term goal to build something similar; I'm leaning towards a cement and glass cube of some sort. I have some land in the area that I'm just getting started working on.
@koenvz9375 Жыл бұрын
Loving the content, presentation skills are so on point. Hopefully I can stay there some day. Greetings from The Netherlands
@PandoraEast Жыл бұрын
I subscribed right away! Thanks for keeping it real - that's invaluable
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
You bet! Few people are actually dropping their real numbers so I'm trying to provide the value that I looked for when I was getting into this STR container home game!
@TARIQABDELPHOTO Жыл бұрын
Love the new editing style Devon! I have no reason to be watching videos in this niche at all but just really enjoy your energy and creativity. If I had any feedback at all, the title of this video could probably stir more curiosity in your audience if worded differently! But just my random 2 cents 😂 Can’t wait for the social media video! That one is sure to be a banger 🔥
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks man! Really appreciate you. Yeah the social media video is gonna be really cool 0-1,000,000 followers in under a year. Gonna be dropping the secret sauce on that one!
@jjlatinopedia Жыл бұрын
Damn bro. Love the honesty!
@ryancflo Жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown! What would you estimate labor costs to be if you didn't get your hands dirty?
@djwashx Жыл бұрын
Big congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@hamlonehamlett1060 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the next big thing will be the hybrid mobile home container park.
@lou4663 Жыл бұрын
Clear and articulate.
@kevinmartignetti3903 Жыл бұрын
You're a beast. Love the transparency on numbers and specifics. That's solid in my opinion considering you paid annual property tax and insurance up front and it was your first month seeing the numbers. Once you make those adjustments you'll crush.
@johnnychimpo7539 Жыл бұрын
“You’re a beast” You’re a 🤡
@leviwalker6208 Жыл бұрын
Love it bro! This has been so exciting to watch! Hope to visit someday!😊
@Espiritiv Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, great following the build. Looking forward to heading up to Washington at some point for a stay
@cassandrathatsme4382 Жыл бұрын
Great series of videos. Love them!
@MGZ136 Жыл бұрын
You should account the anual expenses /12 for it to be a fair calculation, no point in seeing it that way. Other than that, great insight on the operation man
@ericgrinstead52 Жыл бұрын
How did you get your initial startup capital? Is there a way to do something like this with very little money down? If I'm looking for unicorns, let me know. :) Awesome job, by the way. I'm a new subscriber and loooooove The Cedar Hollow project so far. The design of that is fantastic!
@HomeAutoBuddy Жыл бұрын
Big following isn't equal to "high bookings". Many "influencers" has went into that trap for example meet and greet and so on. What you sell is a experience in a unique house.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Very true, the following means nothing. But fortunately this place is an incredible experience and guests are loving it.
@Area42Gaming Жыл бұрын
you should be charging your guests for the cleaning 100% mainly because that's a cost you have, and a lot of Air BNB's do that.
@blakewinchester9555 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Definitely leverage Guesty automated message templates if you’re not already, really cuts down on the back and fourth with guests
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I've been a huge fan so far. Guesty can definitely be a little glitchy at times but that comes with the growing pains of a really cool company. Stoked for Guesty to build out a review software so my direct bookings can leave reviews and further build credibility.
@paullangman7947 Жыл бұрын
Inspiring mate. Cool house. Have really enjoyed watching
@condorious Жыл бұрын
What luxlap color did you get? I want to get the same color pattern
@Mudisolo Жыл бұрын
Happy for you bro, hope everything goes good!!
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@keronlash7844 ай бұрын
Hi please can you let me know where you created your website
@weekendhomeprojects11 ай бұрын
How much ad rev have you made from the social media aspect of the build?
@MardiLewis Жыл бұрын
Hi Devon, I'm wondering if you had your Airbnb app set to direct booking? I'm wondering if Guesty's direct booking is more popular than Airbnb's? Thanks
@jaredemagdaleno Жыл бұрын
Congrats on your project and bringing this information !!!! I live in Vancouver so numbers are similar to yours, How long did it take you to build ?
@Connor-iu1xc Жыл бұрын
Talking about all this shit overwhelms me in a good way, you're such an adult bro! Love you! New Sub
@Just_A_Gun_Guy Жыл бұрын
So how do you get a loan approved for something like this if it isnt built yet? Curious how you prove value of it for a bank to give you a loan.
@slxmpschema Жыл бұрын
I feel as if you could definitely be charging a little more per night. I've paid a few hundred a night at a decent hotel in the city. What you're offering is a unique home out in the forest. Idk maybe I just value your project more than most.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
hahaha i'm with ya but the vast majority of people on people on here think I'm insane for charging 400-600. Even though that's right on par with other homes in the area.
@Stephen_567 Жыл бұрын
Paying almost $100 per day for cleaning is nuts.
@MalickThiam Жыл бұрын
beast beast beast can't wait to hear about the next project
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
It's gonna be wild😏
@Glanzern Жыл бұрын
Do you have a stop loss where if you truly start losing money on Air BnB you can sell it for the equity?
@AHD2105 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could build a natural heated sauna and spa! 😊
@Rocky-cx6qz Жыл бұрын
I feel like the social media and ad revenue was a must for this. It's really awesome but so expensive and the upkeep with cleaners and replacing stuff like cleaning staff , furniture and septic systems will likely add another 500k over the next 15 years which is where I think you could break even if the hype stays here and books out around 75%-80% of the time. The ad revenue and the lumpsome if you sell at the right time or after the 15 years will be worth it if everything goes smooth and people are always filling dates
@natemajezi Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of the entire build of the container BnB?
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Yessir, check out my channel. Breaks down all the processes and costs
@natemajezi Жыл бұрын
Will do thanks
@Anythingispossibleyouknow Жыл бұрын
Question how much money you put in your pocket after all the fees etc . Is what I’m trying to understand.
@tysonj3910 Жыл бұрын
How did you finance this?
@nicklegrey987 Жыл бұрын
I love the bin
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Lol thanks! Yeah i love how it turned out!
@lukesinclair6217 Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Devon blinks
@StopSnatchin Жыл бұрын
He don't blink much I'm sober 😂😂😂
@OneBorko Жыл бұрын
Make the $XX Label Red on the thumbnail. Trust me.
@Area42Gaming Жыл бұрын
i care about the fake numbers because you should always do 1/3 of your projected rental occupancy.
@Sledgefist1 Жыл бұрын
No offense bro but you got some long teeth. Love the effort in this build you did though. Finally a realistic price. I’m in Mukilteo and keep watching all these people building houses 2,000sqft for the price of $200-$300k in the Midwest and the south. Got tired of watching all those cheap prices and was like “do that in Washington for that same price” lol
@ashmanduncan-pm5jj Жыл бұрын
Sowhat if you have your ownmoney how much is one òf thebox
@browngal00 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to pay an HOA or POA fee?
@Adeus555 Жыл бұрын
mm That doesn't count, you paid 12 month expenses under a 1 month revenue. The expense that hit me the hardest was the cleaning bill's. Thats harsh, close to 25% of your gross. Your doing fine bro, early stages, you have 100% occupancy. You may not be in the serious money yet, but you have a ton of equity and a property that will be paying itself off easily and able to liquidate if it doesnt. GG. Imagine someone who did the same with out the social media presence and was running at 40-60% occupancy. Which you classified as a bear market but i would consider a median.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm definitely thinking I need to figure out how to get cleaning down a bit. Appreciate the feedback.
@ericlewandowskivlogs Жыл бұрын
its hella pricey, just checked some off season prices.
@jeseniadeleon1098 ай бұрын
utilities?
@hitstothebrain3288 Жыл бұрын
Your income from this is less then a duplex for like 1/3 the cost of build
@diegoslinger1254 Жыл бұрын
Land is free?
@princeexaltedhorns6926 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@mastermindd Жыл бұрын
That was to be expected, actually
@johnnychimpo7539 Жыл бұрын
So in best case scenario, you start profiting in like 15 years and you’ll have to renovate at that point
@mccalejk2 Жыл бұрын
He’s including the $4000 to pay the loan off. He’s legit making the estimated $50k profit.
@aface Жыл бұрын
You need an accountant. These numbers are skewed. Annual figures are the relevant numbers for a business.
@KurtPainter-f8o Жыл бұрын
So unrealistic. You could have done a simple breakdown with the property tax and insurance broken out into what the monthly exposure is versus trying to scare people away with a fake loss that month.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
Let me tell my story :)
@jamesthegamer Жыл бұрын
Hey Devon, I am getting ready to purchase a condo in my Area (Orlando) and I'm not sure what type of due diligence I should do to make a decision, any advice?
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
I do offer consulting calls if you wana to chat on a call. Shoot me an email, info@thepacificbin.com
@reesewolf608 Жыл бұрын
What is the Airbnb bust you mentioned in the video? Is Airbnb a struggle right now?
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
With recession fears there's concerns that bookings are slowing down (especially for hosts with not very unique, run of the mill homes). I've even heard from my cleaners that some of the other airbnbs they clean for aren't nearly as booked as what they used to be.
@mccalejk2 Жыл бұрын
I just watched the cost to build episode and honestly I was wondering why he just didn’t sell it for $200k and up profit. I personally don’t see long term how this is going to go. There are over a million followers but he only has 45k subscribers on YT. I don’t know exactly where it is located but the winter months are going to be brutal renting it out. And even if the hype dies down, $50k probably isn’t worth the stress and time. Wish this dude the best though. It was an awesome project.
@GoldenNuggetRec3 ай бұрын
His place is in sultan/Monroe area of wa which is right before the mountain pass begins. So actually winter is probably better as there's snowboarding/skiing nearby. The other thing is if he can establish the property and get it running smoothly, the value of it if he did sell would probably be much greater than a "potential to be an airbnb" listing.
@paultorin7142 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is, regardless of what the future holds you learned a hell of a lot in a shore period of time son.
@ashmanduncan-pm5jj Жыл бұрын
Howmuchis5of them
@0x9f000 Жыл бұрын
Skip to 5:16
@jordansehn Жыл бұрын
So the cost of the property was 700k and the net income is 50k. That works out to 7% earnings on investment and a lot of hard work to build and ongoing. Fine if it's for fun but not great as a business, you could have just done a mutual fund and got 7%.
@johnnychimpo7539 Жыл бұрын
7% if everything goes well
@ashmanduncan-pm5jj Жыл бұрын
Devonyou have mynevpewname
@giuseppelandolfi9375 Жыл бұрын
Considering that you spent 550k on that house with a good income of 50 to 60k as you said (even though I think that's a little bit low, we'll see in a year) in less than 10 years you'll have your money back. For me Its worth it, I can see you in your 40s with a good income related on the amount of hours spent on that type of work, I'm quite sure that you have another job and maybe with the money earned in the next years you are gonna make more investments, so going from paycheck to paycheck is not a problem anymore
@Stephen_567 Жыл бұрын
He spent more than 550 if you include cost of land. More than $700k.
@cchavezjr7 Жыл бұрын
@mahno730 plus property taxes and property maintenance is not cheap.
@davesites893 Жыл бұрын
👍📊
@TheBangMangTingTang Жыл бұрын
Yeah dont let other use your house is all I'll say I don't know why you bother with putting that on Airbnb I think it's due to you thinking profit but also you being addicted to the Internet and needing extra cash
@ondrey95 Жыл бұрын
Y’all are not as smart as him idk why I would even look at the comments
@jkf9712 Жыл бұрын
He might lose this house without youtube money.
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
I've made like 13 chicken sandwiches worth of KZbin cash.
@granthaley9258 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear how much this guy still owes on the house 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@talusranch990 Жыл бұрын
Soyboy thumbnail. Mouth gaper
@devonloerop Жыл бұрын
😂
@granthaley9258 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear how much this guy still owes on the house 🤣🤣🤣🤣