My disappointment, My upset & My guilty pleasure! Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM233, 8 days GMT Review!

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Brave Beaters

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@JasonTheWatchGuy
@JasonTheWatchGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Guilty pleasures are Hublot's, no guilt from loving a Panerai
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@yaaxarr8977
@yaaxarr8977 3 жыл бұрын
You have a strong point 👏🏻
@frankiechong3819
@frankiechong3819 Жыл бұрын
Ignore the noise. Just wear what you love and wear what makes you happy.
@michaelriera6277
@michaelriera6277 3 жыл бұрын
Panerai are so distinctive. It should be a part of everyone’s collection.
@vinceslapchopper
@vinceslapchopper Жыл бұрын
PAM 233 is imo the best Panerai you can get for that mid-level luxury price point. Great caliber with the 8 day power reserve, GMT complication, sandwich dial with domed sapphire crystal and see through caseback. Great value for money
@fire_watch7735
@fire_watch7735 3 жыл бұрын
Panerai are gorgeous. Cheers
@bayflowshow65
@bayflowshow65 Жыл бұрын
Panerai is the best watch to buy used. I appreciate the fact that you made me subscribe to the channel in Italian.
@WetWestCoast
@WetWestCoast Жыл бұрын
If one is to own a Panerai, the 233 would be the one to own. I thought about adding another Rolex (or insert ANY other brand name here) and they all just look very similar. But, with Panerai, you won't have that issue. Now, I wouldn't buy a BNIB Panerai from a Boutique, but picking one up on the secondary market wouldn't be too much fuss.
@satan500
@satan500 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I owned a nice Panerai once, but sold it. Feeling like I might acquire one again in the next 18 months. Being an Italian citizen, I feel like its almost obligatory :)
@b_altmann
@b_altmann Жыл бұрын
To avoid fakes, get one with a service record or still under warranty. -Regarding the elements: I found that even some more expensive models didn't have the sandwich dial just a short time ago, but they seem to have introduced a hierarchy now. The entry level models have inlaid dials and the more expensive ones have a sandwich dial - that's how it should be.
@TheVuducha
@TheVuducha 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love Panerai. When they came with the 42mm Submersible, I was thrilled. But that changed. I don’t know why, but now I feel like the brand is missing something. Can’t put my finger on it.
@SteelmoonWatches
@SteelmoonWatches 7 ай бұрын
Because they are about size. That’s their USP. It’s ok to buy a bigger Panerai. That’s the point.
@KingslayerZantrec
@KingslayerZantrec Жыл бұрын
Love the way that GMT looks on your wrist! I have a Panerai 001 from 1998 and I love the way it looks. Had a Radiomir also but sold a few years back...a mistake I should rectify some day...
@BJJandBS
@BJJandBS 2 жыл бұрын
What watch do you have on your wrist at the opening?
@peterblomme2007
@peterblomme2007 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Although for me, a Panerai should have 300 m water resistance, especially with that case and crown guard.
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
True!
@realalexmackenzie
@realalexmackenzie 6 ай бұрын
If I had to own just 1 Panerai, I think the PAM 233 would be in the top 5 contenders. It certainly embodies the best of the Panerai DNA, while still being a manageable size, and a useful set of complications. I have a PAM 200 with that movement and it is easily my favorite Panerai movement (though the JLC 877 in my PAM 190 does give it a run for its money). That said, I cannot imagine owning just 1! My current PAM tally is double-digits, with still a handful more to acquire. The PAM 233 is actually likely to be the next addition. I have 4 Luminor already, but none in GMT, a complication that I am increasingly finding indispensable. Now I just need to find one at a decent price and with no Chinese "influence"!
@SteelmoonWatches
@SteelmoonWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Like the style of the video. Will add this model to the collection soon, hopefully.
@john-carlosynostroza
@john-carlosynostroza 6 ай бұрын
Panera is like Maserati. Hated by some, loved by some. Beautiful name that strikes up Magic. Almost certainly not as good as the competition mechanically but devilishly Charming if you like them. Tend to lose half their value fairly quickly. I don't have one yet but, personally, I love them and can't wait to get mine!
@leeharrisonphotos4175
@leeharrisonphotos4175 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Radiomir 425 S.L.C Easily the best made watch that I’ve ever owned, better than my previous Submariner 14060 or Omega Seamaster👍
@deltropico7
@deltropico7 3 жыл бұрын
I own a base model out of choice. After years of owning and maintaining more expensive/complicated watches, it’s just an un fussy instrument.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
I believe the simple Panerai watches are the best looking and easily serviced. I own the Radiomir PAM 00380 Black Seal purchased used as new for $3000 usd, I absolutely love it!😊❤
@fookshiongyee5816
@fookshiongyee5816 Жыл бұрын
Great watch,great video.wonder how many pieces of pam 233 are there for this limited edition sir?
@bigcosta3478
@bigcosta3478 3 жыл бұрын
Love your video. I kept one panerai in my collection, the radiomir 574! Una Bella machina!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
UUu, great piece! I love that model
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 9 ай бұрын
Love my PAM 2392. At 42mm it fits perfectly. It’s easy to wear and with sandwich dial and exhibition case back it has everything it should. There are few watches on the market that offer iconic instantly recognizable style and an in-house movement for less money. The only negative is, with the domed crystal and polished bezel it’s easy to damage. You can’t bang it around like a Rolex or Breitling. It does not wear its battle scars proudly.
@markseaforth1613
@markseaforth1613 2 жыл бұрын
Almost 7 yrs ago I had the fortune to try on the Panerai PAM233 and the Rolex Sub no date. I always remember how I actually preferred how the case of the Panerai felt on my 7 inch wrist. I also LOVED the felling of just grasping the watch in the palm of my hand. The soft full shape of the crystal balanced by the sharp edges of the stainless steel crown guard. Not many talk about the “sensual pleasures “of these classic Panerai watches. This is why there are these fanatics. No other watch comes close to offering these uniquely “tactile pleasures”. Although I’m financially satisfied I went with the Rolex (which at the time, for which I actually negotiated a small discount!… unheard of these days) and I would have been a Fool to have not purchased the Rolex, however I will always remember how intimate and special this PAM233 felt and one day I am certain I will buy one previously owned. I loved the sandwich dial concept and pure balance over all.
@davidl9951
@davidl9951 7 ай бұрын
Do you recall how it felt/ looked on your wrist ( I have a similar sized wrist)
@Tokyo_Views
@Tokyo_Views 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love PAMs
@davem.2788
@davem.2788 3 жыл бұрын
I have been intrigued by the brand for a long time. Now that I've seen one up close (at a boutique), I am convinced the Panerai offereings provide tremendous value - for the person / watch enthusiast that is willing to spend this type of money. Love the brand, and I'm looking at the 42mm GMT w/3 day reserve. I prefer to buy straight from an authorized dealer in order to ensure authenticity. Worth the money. Thanks for an awesome video!
@user-do8ef4np7q
@user-do8ef4np7q 3 жыл бұрын
Bro don t buy a panerai unless you buy from 44 up. Trust me in the long run your gonna appreciate the size. I'm telling you this without even knowing your wrist size. 44 up.👍
@realwarriorscholar
@realwarriorscholar Жыл бұрын
I like the 3-6-9 sandwich dial, case and unique crown guard on some Panerai models. I also prefer 42-44mm watches. My plan is to turn my pocket watch into a Panerai style watch. This way I get family heritage and a style of watch I like. Someday, I’ll buy an original.
@dgentman1
@dgentman1 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch! Great complications, tremendous value . Where else can you buy a watch with so much presence on the wrist with this kind of power reserve, GMT, AM/PM display, date, display back ? I just purchase the 1321 from a boutique last week and have not been able to wear any of my other watches. Panarai is coming back, atleast you can go into a dealer and buy one and not sit on a wait list and buy jewelry you don’t want just to be considered for a sport Rolex.
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 3 жыл бұрын
Bella, Bella, splendido!! Do like the look af Panerai but wouldn't want to own one - for the reasons you said. Cool watch to look at tho - had a friend who had one years ago. Excellent enjoyable video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
:) appreciate it!
@jamesgregory2918
@jamesgregory2918 5 ай бұрын
Great review. Working out a trade for this exact watch at the moment.
@timelesssneakersandwatches
@timelesssneakersandwatches 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great looking piece. Great video bro 🍻
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate it :)
@ph69jbl
@ph69jbl Жыл бұрын
Very well described what Pam is all about!
@panaristiman1243
@panaristiman1243 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting back to me Mio Amici, Can’t wait to get my strap from 7Friends, I really appreciated that mention my name in your Tudor show love the show keep up the good work
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Gracias! :)
@alejandrososa5146
@alejandrososa5146 2 жыл бұрын
It concerns me not only how amazing the replicas look, but more so the fact that ADs refuse to authenticate. What does that tell you?
@TrendyStone
@TrendyStone 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Pam 111 that I've had for ~15 years. Love it. Wear it all the time. I also just bought one of the new 44mm submersibles that came out this year. Beautiful and a great size for a submersible. The gradient grey dial is stunning.
@tonytrinidad5294
@tonytrinidad5294 Жыл бұрын
Have you had it serviced or is it still running well?
@TrendyStone
@TrendyStone Жыл бұрын
@@tonytrinidad5294 I now have 3 Panerai watches. Only the 111 which I’ve had >15 years now needed service. Sent it to an authorized service center in California. Came back looking brand new.
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Man that 7friends and watches leather pouch is 🔥. Panerai for me is beautiful, but like you mentioned it’s sad that there’s so many fakes. Great video man!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks M. ❤️
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын
@@BraveBeaters ❤️
@31hallite
@31hallite 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy so many fakes of all watches not just panerai....
@ThaNoizy
@ThaNoizy 2 жыл бұрын
I love Panerais without the sandwich dial tho, much more vintage look and feel!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 2 жыл бұрын
hmm, is it? I think the old iconic ones had still, sandwiches.
@verykeen2please
@verykeen2please 3 жыл бұрын
i like them, now they are no longer trendy like the BB58
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
True :)
@colinbrydon7659
@colinbrydon7659 Жыл бұрын
Base, complications get what you can afford. They are amazing watches and so distinctive. Not cheap starting at £5k. But buy new if you can afford. Had a bit of bad rep over the years, but let’s be honest it happens with every luxury brand.
@steriledial
@steriledial 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve a large eclectic collection gathered over the years. Though the last few years, I’m always drawn to, and generally find myself wearing the Panerai’s I have mostly. In fact, my 5th Pam arrived last week. I find the design completely alluring. Also, I agree, my favourite case style is the Radiomir too. Great content, glad I’ve discovered your channel. Subbed. (There are replicas & replicas, but there are only a few models that are ‘super reps’. I steer clear from those models.)
@PeteNice29
@PeteNice29 Жыл бұрын
It’s simple. If the numbers are recognized on Panerai’s site, it’s legit.
@bogdanvintila5766
@bogdanvintila5766 3 жыл бұрын
Felicitari. Excelent content pe acest channel! Cheers!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Multumesc!
@kosmar
@kosmar 3 жыл бұрын
overall they are just too expensive for what they are.
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
yes, good point!
@dinamiena6186
@dinamiena6186 Жыл бұрын
What good point re karamitro.. overpriced for what they are ? Are one of the most distinctive watches .. don’t think everything as an investment.. if it was like this everyone would wear only Rolex
@kosmar
@kosmar Жыл бұрын
@@dinamiena6186 if value is purely in distinction, maybe. anyway a swatch is probably as distinctive, right?
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 9 ай бұрын
@@kosmarillogical. A Swatch is distinctive in an entirely different way than a Panerai. You’re comparing a Smart Car to a Lamborghini. Apples to Bananas.
@MisterKnightly
@MisterKnightly 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant way of describing the watch. Well done, sir.
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
haha, thank you :)
@chia-mingyang5804
@chia-mingyang5804 3 жыл бұрын
Their dials and hands almost always disappoint me. I have tried many times to get one, but never succeed.
@treehugger3615
@treehugger3615 3 жыл бұрын
This is my grail watch. I just wished they removed the power reserve, it just makes it unnecessary busy looking. Put it on the back.
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
I think that is the most interesting thing on the dial :D
@sebastien6483
@sebastien6483 2 жыл бұрын
Your conclusions are spot on. I need a Radiomir in my collection. Hopefully they return some attention to the line once the Submersible surge dies down.
@spiros2310
@spiros2310 3 жыл бұрын
The old eta versions will become highly collectible
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
correct :)
@ABCdotcom
@ABCdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
I think panerai are making a comeback
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, feels like it :)
@torqueofthedevil8145
@torqueofthedevil8145 Жыл бұрын
they're not and I'm glad, keeps it more low key
@laowai2000
@laowai2000 8 ай бұрын
Really wish they would leave some of the print to the "manual". I mean, if you spent over 10 grand on a watch you will know the power reserve is "3 days" or "8 days". Too much print on the dial looks tacky.
@victordasilva5255
@victordasilva5255 11 ай бұрын
Id buy one using tax free in europe…15.5 percent discount plus 10 percent off in el corte ingles. 8k becomes less than 6k
@gills017
@gills017 3 жыл бұрын
Love panerai!!! Great video
@yaaxarr8977
@yaaxarr8977 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed with this one. Sounds like almost all the words around my head with no order before pulling the trigger … overprice and hopping OP finds a way to make nots crash my bank account 🏦. Ty Bro for such a great video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate your words :)
@TheKaneda77
@TheKaneda77 3 жыл бұрын
nice ZRC ;)
@charlieboylol527
@charlieboylol527 3 жыл бұрын
I got the 1033 last year great watch , thanks
@aitch0083
@aitch0083 9 ай бұрын
Oh Lord. I spent $13K on a PAM00127 from Richemont. LOL!
@carmenspini
@carmenspini 2 жыл бұрын
Panerai...un pezzo di storia italiana
@ph69jbl
@ph69jbl 3 жыл бұрын
Primuuuu!!!! :)))
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@ramoussou
@ramoussou 3 жыл бұрын
I had my best professional experience in Italy years ago! My office was Piazza di Spagna! An Italian friend introduced me to Panerai in 1999! I became à Panerai enthusiast because it tells a very unique story and has an authentic military history! The only brand that is connected to technology deployment in countries and operations (wars) in Continents, including Europe (WWII) and Africa (Ethiopia, Egypt). Panerai is very accurate by telling the time. But what I like the most is storytelling and definition of character! My journey in life is a journey of adversity, battles, courage and resilience! Now I live in Thailand! I bought a Bronzo! It was not enough ... I went to Chatuchak market to find an original Italian military jacket! Even Italian military outfits are fashionable, that’s why they didn’t win any wars 😅 But it’s cool! Rolex can’t come close! Maybe Jaegger Lecoultre reverso. In times of duty, aventures, combats, adversity and challenges a Panerai is a reminder that you should be ready and not give up! A watch for the courageous and the brave! There’s more fake Rolex than Panerai and still Rolex is overpriced! The definition of Fake has changed. It’s not about the watch. It’s about the character of the person who wears a watch 😎 Grazie👊🏽
@SteelmoonWatches
@SteelmoonWatches 7 ай бұрын
Panerai is a Man’s watch. A statement, no wonder women like to see Panerais on men. Not for the weak Rolex hype people who bitch about value and lists.
@q3813
@q3813 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a 233 in 10hrs. 😀😀😀
@BobMarley-pm1xb
@BobMarley-pm1xb 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a 61/4” to a 61/2” (on a good day) wrist sooooo…. No, way to big but a 39mm might work well. Not that I have a spare 12 to 14 large kind of wallet 😭 Terrific review as always. I know I am a famous musician (lol, it’s why my “Good Watch” is a STEINHART) …nooo…….just a nobody musician 🤪….. but my name is Michael. What’s yours? I really dig your channel!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha Thanks Michael, I am Andrei, Trapped on a small youtube window :D
@xb12r1974
@xb12r1974 3 жыл бұрын
I love Panerai, but always end up buying another watch due to the same reasons.
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
see, it's not just me :D
@fede6017
@fede6017 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣sei troppo forte!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
ahahaha grazie!
@jasonfreilich866
@jasonfreilich866 2 жыл бұрын
The PAM00270 10 day GMT quite like yours actually does have an automatic movement. It uses the P.2003 movement which is a beauty! It’s a bit of a rare model
@genie5320
@genie5320 2 жыл бұрын
Well i am always on the hunt for value propositions. And given how the brand has been beaten down in recent years, i think the 1950 8 days or 10 days gmt is quite a good deal. For the amount of features, 100m wr, date, gmt, long power reserve for 6,500 euro in the secondary market seems to be a pretty decent deal. But sadly alot of these are not full sets. So, buying one isnt an issue but may be, if one chooses to sell.
@stephen255
@stephen255 3 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos! I want to like Panerai, but I can't. Like Rolex, they are way over priced and just NOT a good value for your money. Plus, people buy those brands because everybody else does. Sheep 🐑 following Sheep 🐑😄! That Longines Spirit you reviewed is worth every penny 😀!
@BraveBeaters
@BraveBeaters 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, valuable point Stephen, and the Spirit, indeed, Solid piece to wear and collect!
@etamarshamoil2739
@etamarshamoil2739 2 жыл бұрын
They should buy back peoples old watches and sell them on their site. This way those that aren’t ready to invest 7k in the brand can start with a cheaper option that they know is authentic.
@fez877
@fez877 2 жыл бұрын
Had the 372 for a few years and sold it. Recently bought a 422, I’m loving it. I don’t care what people says, a Panerai Is a must have in your collection.
@missakhaladjian
@missakhaladjian 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch..timeless
@shipmate3577
@shipmate3577 3 жыл бұрын
Seiko Tuna > Panerai Marina.
@devo5566
@devo5566 Жыл бұрын
If it’s not a sandwich dial it’s not a Panerai. What a stupid statement! Pretty insulting.
@pimsistermans5477
@pimsistermans5477 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the first sentence of the title, I thought this was going to be a video about your girlfriend instead of a watch 😂
@torqueofthedevil8145
@torqueofthedevil8145 Жыл бұрын
The 233 really is the jewel in the crown of the Panerai range past and present, it has everything you could want. Not sure whay you are moaning about the price of luxury watches, hint is in the name and 7k Euros really is nothing in the world of watches
@sonichammer8695
@sonichammer8695 2 жыл бұрын
Panerai, I love it!
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