I Was WRONG About Panerai

This is the second time I have got hands on with a Panerai watch and on this one I think I got it wrong!
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[@drnick40]

I bought the 40mm Luminor Quaranta black PAM01273, and absolutely love it. Beautifully proportioned case, 100mm water resistance. This watch can be worn literally by anyone and in any occasion. A brilliantly designed Panerai which also is a genuine “strap monster” with its 22mm lug with and 11.8mm case thickness. I would recommend it to anyone who wants a Panerai presence and experience but is concerned with the size and the width of the 44 and 47mm models. And yes, you can dive with it😀, at least I do.

[@phillipwright6726]

I’ve been wearing a Panerai since 2003 my first a 162 Chronograph, and purchased my latest as 20 year Panerai anniversary a PAM 1314 You love or loath them but I think the brand has history and really does make a statement. I’m hooked. My daily is a Victorinox INOX mechanical another chunky fella.

[@ryanpatterson9526]

That's why they make the Quaranta 40mm range of the Luminor. It fits great on smaller wrists!

[@InfinityAMR]

I got 2022 Panerai Luminor and it's gorgeous, it's outstanding , big and chunky yet sleek too , I have a big wrist so it's suits me and I get comments about it as it looks so different. Awesome watch

[@gfxdaddy]

Rolex also provided the case design as well as the movements to Panerai; the Panerai Radomir case is essentially a vintage Rolex Oyster case rotated on its side, and that was what was supplied to the Italian frogmen. They owe a lot more than just the movement to Rolex.

[@JaxWatchesandEDC]

Rolex didn’t make the movement, it was supplied to them by another maker, I don’t think Rolex even made that oyster case (I’m 99% sure it was produced by Aegler). Rolex is getting way too much credit here considering they were more of an assembler, much like today’s microbrands in a sense.

[@gfxdaddy]

@@JaxWatchesandEDC And I quote: “Rolex *provided* the movement. The case was 100% Rolex, Aegler produced Rolex movements (after a point, exclusively, and to Rolex’s specifications, before being brought completely in-house). Rolex case designs were Rolex, including the Radiomir. The Rolex-Aegler relationship has been closely intertwined the moment Rolex moved HQs to Geneva - Herman Aegler was even made a board member, and Aegler was renamed Rolex SA in the 30’s even as it was still owned by Aegler. This is no more earth shattering than Omega using ETA movements, except that Rolex had more exclusivity with Aegler before fully incorporating it. Even given your correct assertion that the Radiomir movement was sourced, not bespoke built by Rolex, Panerai came to Rolex with little more than “I need a dive-capable watch for the Italian Navy” and Rolex obliged; it’s still the house that Rolex built, no matter how you slice it, and that’s not a bad thing, just a statement of fact.

[@john-carlosynostroza]

They are like a Maserati in that they are exotic end of high style but they can't compete in some areas against the competition just as a Maserati is just not as good of a car as a Porsche but it's a lot more fun and sexier to own a Maserati if you can take the hit of devaluation and the fact that it may have or certainly will have more issues. I absolutely love these watches and I am into watches for unique character which Panerai offers in spades.❤

[@emathieu504]

Well said. As someone who currently owns two Maseratis and two Luminors and a Radiomir, I couldn't agree more. Panerai isn't for everyone, but for those of us who love them, they are hard to beat.

[@suzielaura7819]

The first watch shown in Dr No was a Gruen. Later in the movie he is wearing the Sub.

[@thebillyflintexperience119]

Is that the narrative now… a man have to be “jacked” or a big guy to pull off wearing a Panerai? I have a few ranging from 44 to 47 and I pull it off very nicely for a slender man! I say wear whatever you want - there’s no rules in wearing a watch! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kevinl6231]

I think this watch looks fine on you. Panerais are intended to wear on the large side just so long as theres no lug overhang.

[@fredo1070]

The first watch James Bond wore in the movies was a gold Gruen. He wears it in the casino where he says "The name's Bond, James Bond"

[@peterf3567]

For your delicate wrist you should try the Luminor Quaranta PAM01372. At 40mm it sits nicely non my smaller wrist. BTW Love the channel.

[@ChisholmHunterOfficial]

Thanks Peter! I will do.

[@dukes70]

Or PAM048 Luminor 40mm.

[@alialghoul9459]

Thank you for this great and excellent review about Panerai… I love Panerai and own few of them, it became one of my favorite watch brand, the reason/ very rare I see anyone wearing a Panerai compared to other brands Rolex etc… Panerai have its own special look. And this Panerai Pam1313 is a very sharp looking watch. Thank you Hunter as always I love your broadcast.

[@ChisholmHunterOfficial]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@sajjadraja6917]

Love these Panerai watches . So cool looking and smooth .. I’m getting Bi Tempo.. can’t wait.

[@agill2103]

Panerai is my fav brand....

[@antonmariman6287]

Actually, the first watch in space was Shturmanskie from Moscow Watch factory worn by Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space.

[@mohamedmohamed-lb8jm]

I love panerai ❤❤❤

[@vladislavdzh]

They removed the stop second feature. Why? Probably they often broke due to a weak balance axis.

[@hugohernandez3651]

Very happy owner of a PAM1314. The watch is far from perfect, but it is unique enough to make me very happy.

[@phillipwright6726]

Have one as well 👍

[@bjoernaltmann]

The Quaranta is 40mm. That’s not large, really. I think an automatic movement is not true to the roots of Panerai. Manually wound movement, sandwich dial, crown guard, domed sapphire crystal - that’s what it needs.

[@pepperbrooklyn623]

When i see someone wearing a 1313, i assume its his first panerai. on the other hand, a 45mm radiomir or a bronzo, carbotech.. hes been collecting panerais for a while.

[@sardendibs]

Well, a blue Panerai with a sunburst dial is never going to be the "iconic Panerai" as both the colour and the dial effect are relatively recent additions. You could argue over this all day, but one quintessential model is the PAM 00111, which is black, no-nonsense, without sunburst and just a subdial for the seconds - nothing else. The 00112 (Base) could also make the shortlist.

[@mrbud8524]

Love Panerai ❤

[@canadianwatchmonkey3992]

I much prefer the wire lug models ❤❤❤❤

[@alanrogers6885]

Where what you want, I have only a 61/2 wrist I would wear a 44mm watch who cares what people think, wear what makes you happy.

[@stoic900]

Where is your shirt from? I've seen that logo a lot lately?

[@jma100]

I'm afraid you are incorrect both about the first watch in space and the first watch worn by James Bond. Yuri Gagarin wore a Sturmanskie into space. The first watch worn by Bond (in the famous 'My name is Bond. James Bond." scene was a Gruen. He wore the Sub later in the film.

[@JizzyNinja]

FWIW I think the 44mm looks good on you

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

The best Panerai to get is a 112. No second hand, no GMT hand, no date, no rotating bezel, no power reserve indicator, no nonsense. Clean sandwich dial, manual wind and a display case back,. Best bang for the buck.

[@PorscheCayenneS]

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[@hristostefanov4009]

Panerai used to be cool but now the management of the brand and their marketing strategy became a total joke with their misleading info about in-house movements which turned out to be eta modifications, showing fake models in their official page, removing features like hacking from a certain model and describing this move as "update" and removing decorations from movements to cut corners... totally not worth buying a recent model nowadays. I would stay away from Panerai and never look at them as a serious watchmaker like they used to be before. It is better to spend that money on a really prestigious brand that will never do such unloyal moves towards its customers and fans. Thanks for the video.

[@TisNotReallyMe]

Each one of these points is enough to put me off, let alone combined.

[@wkaddoura]

Still a gorgeous watch

[@langstondah7350]

Thats not Panerai today. Youre still living in the mid 2000s I see. Its 2024. Your welcome.😅😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊 FBA/B1

[@InfinityAMR]

I got 2022 Panerai Luminor and it's gorgeous, it's outstanding , big and chunky yet sleek too , I have a big wrist so it's suits me and I get comments about it as it looks so different

[@rpjii9771]

A lil late to the party though when I heard lil napolean, PAM yada yada yada, as I thought that this had been put to bed a few years ago as the Owner and COO had spoken out on the actual truth of the matter back in 2020. That said, as a luxury collector of 44+ years, with 18+ as the co-proprietor of a luxury vintage/pre-owned shop, the last 9+ as a Certified Master Maison(Swiss), I was very dejected when I heard the Stallone/PAM story, as lil ma(a a severe napoleonic complex) was the last man that I wanted to be the flag bearer of one of my two fave brands, lol. So you can imagine my elation when I found out that much like many things PAM, and while I love my PAMs, where've there is a big story regarding Panerai, smoke & mirrors 💨🪞 are not far away, lol😂😂 Sure nuff, the lil man was full of sh!t and none other than the preeminent horological investigative reporter, Jose Perezstroica, exposed him, though after some fool waaaaaay overpaid for a sly PAM at auction. Jose's story was validated with conversations from the source, Dino Zei (CEO & owner Officine Panerai SpA) and Bruno Latini (COO Officine Panerai SpA) along with Monty Shadow. You're probably thinkin whoTF is Monty Shadow??? Great question, though I'll let ya read all about Monty, PAM and the lil man below.... perezcope.com/2020/12/23/the-stallone-panerai-logo-story-debunked/ Though I'm very active in the FB groups, I don't watch many horological vids as the vast vast vast majority are the same google obtained regurgitated bullsh!t💩💩, from guys/gals who didn't even own a mechanical watch 10 years ago, much less a luxury piece, just different channels and accents, lol. Yours came across my feed, I figured "WTF," it's been almost a year since i'd watched a YT watch vid, so I watched yours🤷🏻‍♂️ It was a nice enjoyable vid🤙 Stay Well & Continued Success🍻 RP

[@charbelhelou280]

Those who cant afford it critisize .u want more perfect ? Go buy a patek

[@flyant321]

don't like this watch..

[@roachasaurus2020]

It's like wearing a Nintendo Switch on your wrist

[@awc723]

if you're a lady...

[@franc101978]

Not my taste

[@charlieboylol527]

Thanks Hunter, I love Panerai I’ve got the PAM 1033 it’s a beautiful piece, thanks 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙏

[@sooperhooper]

I have a Panerai Luminor 8 days,love it,sapphire back too,very recognisable 👍

[@SuperBechti]

I do own a Panerai Luminor Marina that I find prettY cool. At first I didn’t like it. I thought it looked like a watch for old people who couldn’t see well. Then it grew on me and I bought one. I don’t wear it so often but I do appreciate it when I do so. I definitely think that one should be in any watch collection

[@therealdondomingo7589]

Same here..had to step out of the comfort zone to buy one but now I really like the Luminor Marina.

[@SuperBechti]

@@therealdondomingo7589 bravo! Changing our mind about thinks could also be a way to evolve in life

[@ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣΖΑΦΕΙΡΙΟΥ-γ7κ]

I have been so many times in a situation of almost bying a panerai but I never pulled the triger. Basically because I believe that a watch that costs 7500 euros (luminor quaranta) has to be reliable and hyper accurate. But panerai does not have cosc or metas certification for any watch and nobody in youtube talks about the movement's performance. Everybody talks about the looks. I hope sometime someone will make a video about that too. Keep doing these videos, they are very interesting

[@charlierauh8011]

It’s actually better than COSC - I own a Luminor and after a year it’s accurate to 2 seconds a day. Like JLC and many other makers, their own standard is as good or better than COSC

[@ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣΖΑΦΕΙΡΙΟΥ-γ7κ]

@@charlierauh8011 OK. This is interesting. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it very much

[@bjoernaltmann]

The Unitas movement in the older models was COSC certified

[@finalbattle777]

They’ve been removing finish n hacking capabilities in their movements. So… yeh kinda shady

[@ΓΕΩΡΓΙΟΣΖΑΦΕΙΡΙΟΥ-γ7κ]

@@charlierauh8011 Hi, I finally bought the LUMINOR QUARANTA two weeks ago. It runs at +20 sec/day. That's a bad performance, the measurements that they gave me for the movement's performance were in average around +10sec/day. I am disappointed.

[@atthelord]

So I have this exact watch! The blue Quaranta. Have worn it since it’s realesse last year and I’ll be honest, it’s amazing! Proportionally brilliant, Great strap, ok WR, looks great on the wrist!

[@roybuosi3398]

I don’t think you got it Wright!👌🏻 The radomir and luminor Are the best panerais I am just not a fan of the submersible I also think they like many Swiss brands are to expensive and not worth the money !but they have to pay for all the perception and BS in there adds You could always buy anonimo the real panerais 😱😜

[@JaxWatchesandEDC]

But who supplied those movements to Rolex? Rolex did not make the movement they supplied to Panerai

[@Wildcatjames1]

It looks great and I’d love to have one, but I just can’t stomach the price on these, being £7300. Just look at what you get from Rolex, Omega and Tudor for a similar price. The fit finish and movement can’t warrant more than £5k in my book, but when has the luxury watch market ever made sense!

[@bjornclaeys3266]

Strap-wise: have you tried zuludiver sail cloth straps? They fit really good

[@nedflanders3769]

Hi

[@ChisholmHunterOfficial]

Hey

[@josepauloneuparthvieirafer4449]

I have a Panerai Marina Luminor from 2012. It has a common 7750 Cal. Nothing Special. One is paying the case. Rather pricey. Which actually is a copy from their original supplier: Rolex. In terms of horlogery Panerai's contribuition is ZERO. Now I can live with the hype prices, but what I can't stand is Panerai calling ETA's movements "in-house" and hiding them in cases until one opens them and confronts himself with a cheap lie. Of course I want ever buy any Panerai whatsoever. I've done it in 2012 and that's it. I still wear it from time to time, but it's not at all one my favorites from my thirtish almost forty collection.

[@chomik751]

what do you think about PAM00393 42 mm rose gold ?

[@polopena3337]

Pam01123 is the one Panerai I would like to get.

[@bigblue7091]

Superb Reviews as Always.. 🎬Above & Beyond 🎬 ~Chisholm Hunter~

[@ChisholmHunterOfficial]

I appreciate that

[@rotty66]

Love my 372 (47mm)

[@simonrano8072]

Since when Panerai has a pinacle of any sort ? they are oversized tuna box cases housing modified ETA movements and sold at Rolex price tag... Maybe a pinacle of customer robbing...

[@adrianhargreaves2854]

Love the case, hate the crown

[@awc723]

SMH

[@adrianhargreaves2854]

@@awc723 shake whatever you want. The watch needs a nice screw down crown instead of that eyesore at the side of the case

[@adrianhargreaves2854]

@@MES1808NYC I have done sweety

[@frankiechong3819]

You can pull it off. The cushion case wears well in your wrist. It’s just psychological that you think it’s too big. It’s fine and it looks good on you.