My dream PC: "Tiny RTX"

[@TheJamesKF]

During a 450w+ GPU launch cycle your small efficient builds are more relevant than ever Josh. Absolutely gorgeous Erick!

[@nfcerick3634]

Loved working with you on this gorgeous build, Josh! Thank you for the opportunity. Love the video! I miss working with my BESTIE in person! Love you, brother!

[@djfury05]

Can't wait to see the water cooled version! 😉 A80

[@X862go]

AWSOME build? But what do you mean by upgradeable?? Absolutely nothing else will fit in this case and give you better FPS!💯 not yo mention everything is going BIGDOG after 2022 just looking at AMD 95c chips coming out. 🤯

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@X862go It's not a laptop board with soldered components. There are already some more half-height GPUs in the pipes, and a rumored A4000 half height. There are other STX boards out there as well with different chips I could have access to. I put alot of work into the case and the design so in a couple years I can replace the hardware but still have my beautiful (in my opinion) desktop PC. And Erick's version, which will be on the channel shortly, kicks up the performance significantly with even more hardware goodies. The design accommodates creativity and you can see that already with some of the builds in the Discord. I hope this makes sense, and thanks for commenting!

[@Sal3600]

Why not tell him in person?

[@nfcerick3634]

@@Sal3600 I have, but I wanted to express it on the video as well. Call me old fashioned, but I think it's great to publicly express gratitude as well.

[@guily6669]

I don't usually like small form cause assembly is tricky, upgradeability is a nightmare and there are always restrictions but this one look damn amazing, like really a dream come true specially with those damn high end materials, it looks more like some kind of true audiophile media stuff of very high quality.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thanks man I appreciate it.

[@HearMeLearn]

micro atx is a good compromise. It's smaller than the standard form factor but with more expansion and room than mini itx. I think that's what I'm going to go for my next pc

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@HearMeLearn I really want Micro ATX to work--my first PCs I was building were all Micro ATX (you can see some examples on my website) but there are too many problems which make it a deal breaker. Firstly it is the most unpopular form factor, and the board selection is extremely limited, and usually regulated to "budget" boards with limited features. Secondly except for some very unique layouts (again see my website) it doesn't end up being more space efficient than ATX when it comes to FOOTPRINT; the most critical of size concerns. Thirdly, I'm hesitant to invest in a 200+ hour design or worst, a four year production case project because I am on the fence wether this form factor will survive. We have seen some years without any good Micro ATX boards and it would be sad to have a killer case made for it in a year where there are no options. I have one design I REALLY want to try but can't bring myself to invest in the risk. I wish it was more popular.

[@guily6669]

@@NotFromConcentrate I'm always for full size ATX but only cause I barely have money so I have to chose well something for the next decade upgrading only GPU... I really wanted to do a nice performance small PC but it would suck pretty bad over time for me as the only main rig for many years so I really have to go all big full OC with maximum PCIe and Sata ports, I also always like using internal soundcard... But I agree with you, both mini and micro at the end the build will probably be very similar when you factor GPU as the piece that will dictate the size of the case unless you go with very small crappier GPUs or just APU alone which sux... Ps: but this build you made is hard not to fall in love with the piece of art that it is, and you really paid attention not only to the case but also improving the hardware cooling inside 🤤😮

[@hhcollective]

This is the most beautifully saddest video I have ever watched. I'm stunned by how much the design and style speaks to me whilst knowing I will never have the ability or tools to build and create something like this. Absolutely beautiful from every angle imaginable.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Be encouraged. We all start somewhere...you should see the garbage I started out making. My channel is also heavily geared toward teaching people where to start to make their own cases. I have many hours of videos showing people how to design a case with free software, and resources of how to get it cut and bent if you don't have the tools. Check out the playlists and Best of luck!

[@IronKore]

@@NotFromConcentrate thanks for sharing your journey. I too felt like he does and saying this from the third world

[@hhcollective]

recently subscribed but am now working my way through everyone one of your videos. Phenomenal content.

[@X862go]

Maybe build in a 10 or 13 litters case then move down whenever you're ready. Just make sure you can move the motherboard so get a stx board if you want to eventually move to the sky mini. 🙋‍♂️

[@X862go]

💯

[@RajSinghBaghela]

Josh you are a gem in this SFF PC World. I have been following your videos for a very long time and ask same question to myself repeatedly that why dont you have enough subscribers? Love from India.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thank you my friend, your comment is much appreciated. I don't have alot of views but I have subscribers of incredible quality!

[@Heidegaff]

"Damn, that's one tiny videocard. a2000, never heard of it, I wonder if it's like an inexpensive videocard for professional usONE THOUSAND BUCKS?!" Great build btw, it ain't easy juggling components in such a compact space, people who don't build computers for a living can't really understand how bonkers your fitment is, it's suprising it can draw enough air. As much as I love huge, bulky full ATX chonker PCs, the PC space is moving toward sizes this small, you did an amazing job. An expensive one tho.

[@atranimecs]

Must be the price peak, months back I saw it at $700 at the highest, Thats the A4000 price point now ($1k). A2000 can be had for ~$400 now which is pretty awesome for SFF

[@pututski6968]

What a marvel of machining and design. You guys took it to the limit and the results speak for them selves!

[@AthosJosue]

Brother that looks so much better than any other small PC a have ever seen, commercial or otherwise, and it's completely custom-made, it's pretty amazing.

[@xgarr458]

This is exactly what I have been looking for, a powerful small form pc. I have thought about building my own but I just don't have the know-how. But this video... Might motivate me now.

[@CarsonsVids]

I wish I needed a new PC because of this build

[@HearMeLearn]

I mean you could always take out your components and put them inside a new case lol

[@CarsonsVids]

@@HearMeLearn not compatible

[@JustIn-sr1xe]

Who says you don't need a new build? Is it even possible to have enough computer?

[@enntense]

I realize most of this is about the art..But...You can just plug a high end laptop into a monitor and change the power profile to stay on when the lid is close..Voila..tiny PC...

[@funtourhawk]

@@enntense yeah there's literally no point to do this besides the challenge...much rather have a mini itx build with good temps and a beast GPU/CPU

[@randomangmoh]

Never has a 10 minute video convinced me to sub with such a degree of certainty. Unbelievable stuff 👏

[@jtd8719]

Dang, Josh (and Erick)! Inspirational. Still luvin' my OG DAN A4. I will definitely check out the a2000 and the new HDPlex PSUs...

[@MisterRorschach90]

I’ve always considered your custom usff builds to be the perfect itx systems. However recently I saw a vertical prototype for the itx version of the turemetal case and completely fell in love. A minimalistic completely silent itx build with the fastest components possible in an industrial aesthetic. All black and silver. Just perfection.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Glad you found a case you are passionate about! This channel wouldn't exist if I had a case like that back in 2015 haha. Also check out HDPLEX's fanless cases they are really nice. Peace and thanks for commenting.

[@kasimirdenhertog3516]

I think I’ve seen that too. But it looks like Turemetal hasn’t been making progress for some time now, so I’m afraid the prototype won’t really make it 🙁

[@vensroofcat6415]

It may be tricky to clean. But then it's built for beauty and personal touch and indeed is looking great. Well done!

[@tobiasit1743]

this is not even a little bit beautiful... this is next lvl, this is absolutly amazing! love it!!!

[@TheNetRiper]

Oh my God! Real pice of art! Best SFF I ever seen!

[@Capybaracomputers]

This goes hard only wish to be able to hand craft and design something like this

[@visionary4787]

This is immaculate. Kudos for completing my dream.

[@Jacketz123]

Fantastic build brother! Always a pleasure watching your work 🙏🏻

[@katherinesilens2994]

6:00 The pinout sheet is missing in the video description, I think.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Thank you I put it in the spreadsheet

[@Felix.Garcia]

This is quite an amazing machine you have built, thanks for sharing it with us. Two thumbs up

[@beavatatlan]

Man, this was a satisfying build!

[@chadzulu4328]

Geez man, the attention to detail is amazing!

[@X862go]

just ordered mine after securing the GEM RTXA2000! They filled and shipped my order in crazy fast as well . I responded to the shipping email and an actual person responded 🤯,not a robot email service 👏👏! Absolutely class act 🧐

[@Samil101]

@@X862go How much? Contact info please!

[@SheddysGaming]

Man... It's like "mini-itx build threads" all over again but wayyyy cleaner. This took me back 😊 subbed!

[@chosenrealmalfeche4356]

This is what I'm talking about! I am also in the process of doing something like this but I am currently in a pause due to budget and currently busy with work. Glad to hear there are new HD plex power supplies available.

[@gnomesukno]

Well done Josh and Eric!

[@ZeroThe2nd]

Amazing build. Looks beautiful and it performs too, Totally love it!

[@heavybulletsful]

Flipping CLEAN! Good job!

[@МальвинаКотик-л1ъ]

Great build! I understand a rtx a2000, but why a 5700g, though? For a dream build, you could've gone with extremely good silicon of a 5950x, undervolt it very modestly and have great perfomance with low heat output and noise levels. 5800x3d is also a great option!

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Great question. First reason is I had a 5700g and it's a nice enough chip for me...I spent enough money on carbon fiber so it was nice to save some. Secondly and more to your point, this motherboard the fastest CPU supported is the 5700g. Anything else won't boot--I tried. I do have other small form factor builds on this channel with the 5950x that utterly destroy this build on paper...but sometimes a build is greater than the sum of its parts. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. :)

[@deadlemon]

Unfortunately the A300/X300 can't use anything but APUs, and the community has absolutely tried to talk asrock into a CPU capable BIOS to no avail

[@LiLBitsDK]

@@deadlemon the deskmeet can but the mobo is a bit larger though

[@deadlemon]

@@LiLBitsDK a whole lot larger, but you're right, it does support normal CPUs.

[@ascorth]

@@NotFromConcentrate bro, how your pc run, im surprised mini STX can handle 12v DC without any step up voltage converter, you inspire me to do the same with my A300

[@djkommando]

Just what I need... Another rabbit hole to go down researching something I dont have time to build. (I do need a new PC and this really sparks my interest)

[@xmajedz_3246]

this is gorgeous im in love, well made

[@numerounotg]

Wow this was amazing. Great job 🔥🔥

[@jasonsaez3668]

Amazing skills and great unity of form and function!!! Beautiful job!!!!

[@noble9759]

Simply a work of art. Beaitful work, beatiful editing and sound. Beaitful voice. Thank you

[@Dirtbaghippy]

Been watching videos lately on mITX builds and stumbled on this video. Crazy how small of a build this is to pack so much in! It looks stunning, and I'm sure it looks amazing on display. I like how it easy it would be to take with you anywhere! I think insetting the front wood panel so the case is flush with the front like the back, adding some fine mesh lining maybe to the inside of the case which would serve to protect from anything getting inside but also visually add to the look and using some countersunk flathead dark bronze screws on the face would tie everything together even more.

[@jimjones7821]

Hi Josh. Are parts more available yet? Would love to get something done with that Ghost.

[@tomdillan]

Love the amount of effort and enthusiasm shown for this creation. How much in volume is saved by going mini-stx motherboard instead mini itx. My smallest build so so far is a asrock b550i Phantom gaming, Ryzen 5 3600, Noctua NH-L9am4, gtx 1650 lp, dual m.2 drives and a 250 watt pico psu.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

technically no volume as you could do the same build with a ITX board, but it's way neater with less stress than ITX. You get less I/O though and the fastest CPU you can use is the 5700g, but that's cool with me because I want something low power and quiet.

[@andreiguzovski7774]

@@NotFromConcentrate wht is 5700g fastest you can use? Is it motherboard limitation? Wouldn't undervolted power limited 5800x3d be better?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

@@andreiguzovski7774 Motherboard limitation makes 5700g the fastest. If you need more power and can tame it then you can use an ITX board with the layout shown in the beginning.

[@BeachKlas]

Wow! Beautiful. Great video!

[@Al3jandr0101]

My very first build was a Velka 3 and I fell in love with SFF builds. I am now looking for a reason to make a pc build in an S4T. I absolutely love this channel and cannot wait for more videos in the future. Great job Josh and Erick.

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

watching people make beautiful things fills me with happiness. there's something magical about it.

[@PunisherOfDeath101]

I tried going small but the compromise wernt worth it to me. I plan on stuffing a 7950x with 280 aio, 1200w sfx-l psu and 3080 with 240 aio into 24L cerberus x. I could go smaller but that involves custom water and that's a hell for the trouble and headache it brings.

[@johnfurey3593]

Nice brother very nice. I appreciate the engineer that went into this.

[@shaftshaftner]

Always in awe of the craftsmanship from you guys. Really inspiring! Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but why is the STX motherboard with M.2 to PCIe x16 preferred over an ITX motherboard for this build?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

You can absolutely use an ITX/ThinITX board with an A2000. I just wanted something really "clean" and easy to install without tons of cables. With the STX board I can put the card right in the back and not use break out cables.

[@ayushdabral]

that random spray painting caught me offgaurd. what a madman! i would have just used a sketch pen :)

[@igor.lacerda]

Amazing project and presentation! 🤘⚡

[@shat01j]

You put so much work into this. Wow.

[@Jim-qb8ss]

Beautiful work 🎉

[@TrashPandaPirate]

THats a wild build ! well done looks great

[@o.ruoroch9869]

Amazing build and video as usual. Keep up the great work!

[@ac0rpbg]

One thing that I don't like is the look of the screws on the front panel. Have you considered doing it with magnets so the wood look a lot cleaner.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Yeah, please check out the updated video with this project. It's also watercooled.

[@MichalOlber]

This is awesome project. I like the idea and final result. Well done 🙂

[@Den-Fi]

You guys are sooooooooooo good. National treasures in both talent and as humans. What an incredible build.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

And you are a world wonder. Your photography inspires me.

[@aoife1122]

Lovely project, well done, lads. My only question is, why didn't you go with the 5700X instead of the 5700G? The integrated RX Vega graphics is "dead weight" (thanks to that "mighty cool" RTX A2000), the 5700X has the same power specs and should be running a bit cooler in general but has the superior cache configuration, surely worth the 30 dollar more. (PCIE 4.0 support wouldn't matter with that board).

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Simple; the bios only supports the 5700g. Plus I had one on hand and these videos aren’t sponsored so I like to make stuff with what I got :)

[@aoife1122]

@@NotFromConcentrate Ah yes, that's the board from the ASRock Deskmini X300 and only supports APUs. My bad. ;)

[@manicmods]

Beautiful build and craftsmanship! 😍

[@makingtolearn]

Absolutely gorgeous build.

[@telepresencebot2]

somehow youtube didn't give me a notification for this even though I have your channel set for "all", so I'm late :p Fantastic build though! I'm in the process of teaching myself power electronics with the goal of someday building a custom power supply for a dream sff build I've had in mind for a few years now side note: that shroud on the cpu cooler had me *very* confused in the opening glamour shots XD Couldn't make heads or tails of which parts were what! I've got a similar but smaller shroud I got from Jhack 3 or so years ago on top of a noctua l9a that is somehow managing to tame a 5950x in my sm4. Had to make a few power tweaks of course, but the biggest impact adjustment was actually dropping the soc voltage. Didn't even have to drop ram or fabric speeds for it, seems quite happy to run 1800 fabric/3600 memory on a pair of 32gb gskill sticks with 1v flat. Stock settings had it at about 1.2v, which pegged the poor thing in thermal throttling range just opening applications. Beat Saber would keep it at a steady 98-99c and at idle it would be high 70s to low 80s. After the soc voltage drop, it idles in the mid 50s and never goes over 80 in my normal usage. Power consumption dropped by about 20 watts, which is just crazy to me.

[@crateroid]

Hi Josh, could not find a link to the 3D printed fan mount for the GaN unit. Is this available to Patreon members only?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

It's in the link in the description, anyone can download it. Check the spreadsheet! :D

[@crateroid]

@@NotFromConcentrate Thank you! Love your work.

[@XfarglesX]

This is insane and I love it so much

[@Develoquent]

Amazing build!!! Love to see it

[@nexorabolis]

Another fantastic build from the NFC team 😊

[@hilmanalhadied361]

Good job @NFC erick 👍 aesthetic n elegant case

[@SrSamuerto]

I'm looking for building my own ITX/SFF PC since I take a 20h trip once a week and need something smol. This will help me a little with inspiration, though I'm more of a function over visual so my cabling will probably look like a ketchup/mustard mashup.

[@JeffGillis-lv1rz]

This is extraordinary and eloquently designed. Huge applause.

[@Castrejana7]

I freakin' love it. What a tiny monster. Also u have a new sub tho:) Keep goin'

[@niyamimbi1179]

gorgeous build, thank you

[@zerocentury]

Hi Josh / Erick, so how much will this build cost from you guys? Thanks. :)

[@davidcohen6352]

The problem i can see here is the gpu copper plate. The GPU chip is always machined and soldered as flat as possible to ensure maximum contact with heatsink where as the memory chips are not subject to the same tolerances and direct pressure from an non flexible plate will put uneven pressure on the solder joints and will cause the components to fail prematurely. A simple solution is to use decent thermal paste then 0.5mm shims to cooler and 0.5mm high quality thermal pads ( i use arctic GP3 ) on memory chips. This allows even pressure on the memory chips and at the same time reducing temps nearly as much as a direct copper, just without potentially busting the card.

[@gucky4717]

I use a Densium 4 with 4L volume. It has a nice woodenfront with USB-C. It fits a normal ITX board with a small 39mm Cooler and an full height ITX GPU, like a PNY 3060. The PSU is Flex-ATX upto 400/600W (400W for quiet Noctua-Fan :D ). There is also a 5L Version for a longer GPU upto a 3060Ti or modded 3070. The big advantage is that the Densium4 technically uses off the shelf parts.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Me making something unique does not take away from someone else's achievements. The Velka layout is great and the best solution for many people. We have a wide variety of cars that speak to our tastes, otherwise we would all be driving toyota corollas. :) Peace and thanks for the comment

[@ariefnugraha243]

I love your works

[@NotFromConcentrate]

I think it will drop massively in price now that ETH is proof of stake. I saw some 12GB versions for 350 on ebay the other day!

[@GewelReal]

@@NotFromConcentrate That's hella cheap!

[@cmja09]

Ahh same, knew it's gonna be RTX A2000. Got mine too, built in an inwin chopin.

[@kryspyhohos1238]

truly appreciate the time yall must of spent creating this little masterpiece beautifully designed congrats

[@combosx]

Bro you can build a business out of it!!!

[@goregejones7248]

Can you do benchmarks of software and games with this build.

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Please check the spreadsheet in the description for benchmarks of games.

[@SirSethery]

The only thing this would be lacking for me is HDMI 2.1. I occasionally hook mine up to my TV, so the VRR and audio formats are really nice to have. Probably the only reason I haven't copped an A2000 (though I guess you could use an RX 6400, especially since it only supports x4 anyways. Just means no good video encoders or RTX/CUDA features).

[@Lightmode0]

I wish I had an Eric to do projects with me 🤣! Awesome computer, and spot on editing!

[@Pashkent_Fedov]

I NEVER AND AGAIN NEVER STOP WONDERING H O W W H I S B E A U T I F U L

[@theterriblegamer1228]

I bet Linus would love this.

[@ArifKamaruzaman]

Not only Linus. everyone would love this.

[@gar98k]

Soon, I hope you make a new tiny build with the Low Profile 4060!

[@BixxPlays]

RTX 4000 SFF upgrade vid incoming?

[@mcteags]

I feel like I just watched a video I can meditate to. Chill vibes. Amazing work guys! I can tell you had fun putting together this video. I’m glad I know so many people cooler than me. That way I can be cool by association.

[@IRQ1Conflict]

Beautiful job guys!

[@linggasy]

Great work, man! I don't bother to build a mini ITX simply because it's HARD for me especially for cable management. But you took it to the next level, man...handcrafted everywhere.

[@leko2138]

love it simple and small and just piece of art

[@rossmpostpro]

What an incredible work of art. Beautiful.

[@THEUrinalCake]

I really want that wood/carbon fiber base stand, but I transport my S4M rig in a weirdly oriented backpack nightly and I don't think there's any way to quick detach it? Looks like the wood base mounts to the skyslots then the carbon wings screw into it?

[@ezy4money]

Superb! Awesome job there.

[@P0W3RH0U53]

that is one professional looking little toy. Holy fuck. 10/10

[@timrideout]

Absolutely gorgeous!

[@nightb2759]

Can you do more videos to test on different games to see the fps temps gpu usage etc. ?

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Hello! The spreadsheet in the description has the games I have been testing and playing and the settings used to get 60FPS. I will keep updating it the more I play. Thank you for commenting.

[@chemicallust77]

Sweet build...now for a matching desktop DAC/amp and speakers? 🤔😎

[@DjadamGee]

Wow just amazing!!

[@JustIn-sr1xe]

That is one smexy build! I long for the days where we can cram this much power into a regular ITX build, without all the custom parts and hard to source super tiny PSU's.

[@Tpecep]

Do benchmarks and tell more about undervolting/overclocking

[@NotFromConcentrate]

Benchmarks are in the description in the spreadsheet with some settings. Advanced tuning and performance hacks are coming in the next build video :)

[@Kekeripo]

The A2000 need to be a standard size/style. I'm a bit tire dof all those gigantic cards and no tinies for usff builds.

[@frogybot]

I'm planning to make a custom PC case for my DT GCSE project. Have you any tips/information on how to do this? Also, how long did it take you start to finish?

[@SG-sj6cw]

That case is so tight you couldn't squeeze a fart in there. Truly impressive skills, BIG props to the materials master that machined it all out

[@qx1381]

There is a higher powered 4060 LP card now. Perhaps we can get an update on this build?

[@apondo100]

Seriously impressive.

[@HitomiOokami]

That is one fk'n beautiful lil beast. How do I make or get one lol? Obviously not the same as that is your personal build but if I wanted to try make something simular hardware wise? Also in the gaming you should is that mostly leveraging the slim gpu or is that a mix of gpu and the 5700G APU?