My Dream Shop Ep-30: Crazy Second Story Floor Framing Install

In this episode of my dream shop build series, we have a crazy second story framing install. We have a large span I-joist floor system with LP Legacy Sublfoor! Even though it spans 45 feet, I was able to get away without needing any support columns and check out how well it turns out!
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[@chaddidier3116]

Guys, when putting your tongue in the groove. Greg's face just lit up. He was doing everything he could to hold it in. Thank you for sharing that moment. You guys are awesome.

[@RRBuildings]

What a goofball

[@95dodgev10]

Sometimes it might be best to not hold it in

[@michaelshort7297]

That was funny!

[@2nickles647]

I busted out laughing 😅😅...then I was laughing hard with tears 😂...I'm off to work also. Tomorrow I'm working on my daughter truck. Some minor issues. She drives a 2500hd daily. She sure loves her truck. I'm the mechanic for the truck. Hopefully in two weeks. I need to inspect the brakes front and back.

[@davebender8901]

I just saw that, and almost fell off my chair when I saw Greg's reaction.

[@zachmiller5099]

I've worked for a lot of contractors over the years and none were as knowledgeable nor had the work ethic of Kyle. We need more leaders in the trades like him. Well done Sir.

[@mymainelogcabin]

Absolutely 👍 👍

[@fumotorsports7232]

Greg's a lucky guy to be able to work with Kyle. A+ guys

[@renelange5151]

Kalender is a lil' bit a german guy...😂 He Watts to bild exact as he can. Very cool to See. WhatsApp wth your son Kyle? What is he ding noch?

[@johnshort1536]

@@fumotorsports7232. I think Kyle is lucky to have someone like Greg.

[@davebender8901]

I wish that jobsite superintendents would have as much respect for the "laborers" as Kyle does for his "crew!"

[@ThelifeofKingfish]

Greg laughing at, you never want to jam your tongue in that groove… especially after the initial comment of, and I’m talking about tongue groove flooring. 😂 Yes Greg, we are all laughing with you!

[@SupaDave63]

You said put your tongue in the grove

[@tc9148]

So impressive. Kyle and Greg always use best practices and do an outstanding job of explaining why they do things a certain way. I always learn so much. One of my top 5 KZbin channels for learning how to do it right.

[@RRBuildings]

Thanks man do our best

[@nailbanger2]

On that subject, could you explain why you didn't start at the windows? That way you would have solid floor from the get go. At 1' on center, and 3.5" tops, it wasn't exactly treacherous footing, but I was curious.

[@Overpar73]

I really loved the comment that you would allow Greg to watch the Packers on your 100" TV! The shop is looking fantastic!

[@jbird9309]

After tonight, he won’t be watching anymore this year!

[@RiPCORD100]

Videographer was the best decision ever made

[@peterpeterson7784]

I wonder if even 5% of the new homes are built this well. Makes me want to move by you and have a shop built.

[@maddawgnoll]

It's different when it's yours that you are personally building. Most buildings like this would be built by a crew of hourly workers that don't care about it.

[@BLKMGK4]

@@maddawgnoll True except he builds all of his buildings to exacting standards. I'd kill to have someone of his caliber and work ethic build near me!

[@user-js5mz3wf6p]

Oh my God I get entertain about the video. Can you have more video? Yes let me watch it. Thank you and God bless you for the video. It’s so good and I love it.

[@ScottyLo]

What a dream shop that’s gonna be. I love the attention to detail you have no matter what you are doing.

[@robertn2813]

Hahaha , I was right with Greg on that " tongue in the groove , hit the wood super hard and jam the wood " comment . Too funny .

[@Christ_is_King951]

to those who are not familiar with RR… 2 guys did all this! 😳 Impressive!!

[@Sammywhat]

Thanks for saying this. My first video of these guys doing some mighty fine work!! This video came up after watching the Stud Pack channel where Jordan and his Dad are building out a "dream garage" with a living space above. Great series as well if you haven't seen it yet. God bless you, brother!! 🙏

[@deerdust3040]

That's how I worked for years doing many homes, just 2 of us cutting and nailing, and an occasional gopher when we needed someone to move lumber for us.

[@jacobycinco]

My Saturday can officially begin! Your vids are one of the best notifications to receive. I’m in southeast Iowa so not too far from ya

[@RRBuildings]

Thanks brother

[@whisk5724]

“When putting your tongue in the groove, and I’m talking about subfloor, ok” Hahahah

[@imshmal]

Finally, someone who lays the sheets down gently! No point in putting glue down if you let the sheet slam onto the joists in my opinion.

[@davevandervelde4799]

Wow...those 2 point loads for girder trusses are carrying ALOT of weight. I did not realize until now, when you panned up through the ceiling, how that is all fitting together. Nice shop, I am jealous.

[@smcox1991]

Those two posts are carrying half the building 😂

[@randyadams7269]

Carpentry makes your mind sharp. Great work isn’t found regularly. Looks great!

[@tittyskillet3413]

Its amazing how much work 2 guys can do when they know what they are doing.

[@bobme2787]

That building looks great. Every mans dream shop but you were able to make it a reality.

[@ykmdinobrown]

I have been framing 28 years never seen someone snap ever row and I thought I was a perfectionist 😮..outstanding guys like always

[@ryanmaffei975]

I have used the same i joists for projects. In the situation where your truss has a 2x12 the top of the i joist needs to be supported with web stiffener blocks at the end for proper supporting strength. The hanger doesnt support it properly, due to the void in the "web" of the joist, or you can have the rimboard there to support the weight at the end.

[@sigdetcdr]

Always great content. My son and I drove from WA to WY last year to help a friend frame a studio apartment inside his 40' x 85' shop I had earlier designed for him. Lots of fun. Road trip. Cold weather. Tough "Man Work." You do a great job explaining what you are doing as you do it. I agree. Lagging a second set of LVLs with hangers applied, to the girder, might have been an easier but a bit more $$$ option. I'll be scouring more of your channel since I will be creating a design for a 60' by 100' shop soon. (I'm recommending a steel framed project just to ensure clear span can work) Again........your channel is 100x better than TV Thank you!

[@deplorable_2024]

Very nice work. I am a “belt and suspenders” person. Your work is all of that and more. Glue and special nails to secure floor. 1’ centers for I joists. Corner tape pieces on windows. The hits just keep on coming!

[@JeffKeyeux]

Besides your focus on quality, one of the things I enjoy the most is the camaraderie between yourself and Greg and the flow that you get from having worked together so long. Although I'm an electrician, I try to work in the very same way. You really make it fun!

[@nelsoncantin]

Great information, this really help explain the framing and thinnking ahead. I have seen a lot of your videos. Enjoy watching them over and over.

[@raulc398]

You are The Greatest!I am a Millwork installer, the Canadians framers are our biggest nightmare!!,I wish they watch your channel!!Cheers from Toronto Canada!!!

[@user-ov9rj6ze7v]

It’s the same in the US . But they just don’t give enough times on jobs. Plus all the higher-ups always tell framers how to do their job.

[@bret_Lambky]

Greg, that little piece of scaffolding that was bought will become a lifesaver! I have the same piece and it is so handy at times! Because you can adjust the leg height at each end is helpful! If your working on stairs or uneven surfaces it will pay for itself several times over!

[@BluegrassCamaroAdam]

Love the practicality of your processes. Simple and efficient.

[@just_a_guy_and_his_tacos]

"Need to have these tight.... hopefully this 12" structural screw will do the trick...." dude you never half ass anything!!!!!! love it!

[@kbwerx]

Checking in from southern Missouri in the Heart of the Ozarks -- you guys have been my all time favorite building channel for several years now. Oh, yeah... and Go Pack Go! 🏈✊

[@RRBuildings]

Eh go bears.

[@wreckenbach9703]

GO Bears and take the Packers with you. SKOL Vikes

[@fredjeffery4182]

Love the design and your expectations of your new shop. I only wish l had the time and years to accomplish it. You guys work together like a fine Swiss watch . Keep up the excellent work. From one in Ontario, Canada

[@timvangool291]

Always love the teamwork and joy you guys have, keep up the good job!

[@daveshepherd7582]

What a great space you created, so many possibilities

[@kevinabercrombie7389]

As a career firefighter who also works construction on my days off my mind went immediatly to where Greg's went when you were discussing tongue and groove sub flooring.

[@doubledarefan]

At the middle of the girder truss, build the floor slightly high, so it will sag straight. Outsmart the sag!

[@jinwonpark6475]

Love seeing Kyle excited about this build! This is the coolest build by far. Looking great!

[@nigelsmith7955]

Great job on the floor, we had a similar floor experience and after our engineer came out he recommended we install three cables from outside beam to inside framing in three of the floor spaces with ¾” eye bolts each end then when tightening it helped with any outside wall to the truss flexing, locking it all together ours was only 30’ long. In the old days they use to use solid rods with plates and bolts on the outside of the buildings lol.

[@soccovitch]

I enjoy hearing you talk yourself into letting 1/8" slide. I fight that battle too....then remind myself that it is just a deck....roll with it!

[@Kralphrn]

Every time I am amazed what you do with just two guys!!

[@feriluc]

In all honesty, I appreciate the details that you go over. It helps put building into perspective. It’s not simple like I want to think it is. I watch your videos for the progress. Hope to do it myself one day.

[@chimpfoos65]

That is one nice shop you are blessed with that

[@KyleFrey]

Greg cracks me up at 34:30, he can hardly keep it together. Keep up the good work guys!

[@user-ox2rl1rs4v]

I just love it when you said put the tongue in the groove and the guy in the back was busting a gut good looking job!

[@sHpAaKu316]

Kyle my man. Love to see You realising Your dream. I'm following Your channel for years. Superb work every time. shoutout from Poland.

[@eagleeye10m95]

It's really awesome!!! I love yawl's work!!! And I am learning alot thank you Kyle and Craig!!

[@KevCampbell]

We have that same yellow scaffold system, and it was a game changer when we repainted the inside of our house during lockdown. Made getting to our 2 story foyer ceiling such a breeze!

[@robertdean9392]

Looking great!!! Love the video and the step by step explanation of how and why you did it.

[@RRBuildings]

Glad you liked it!

[@antonioalvarez303]

Packer game. Yeah. Great work.

[@jamesadams893]

One thing I definitely get from watching Kyle do his explanations is that he sure knows his rim jobs and tongue n groove moves better than most on youtube. His wife is one lucky woman

[@darrenfarrell5690]

The dream shop looking great.

[@davidrobins4025]

Fabulous job. Thanks for all the tips you include in your videos.

[@thomasmartinez3085]

Impressive work ethic! You guys dont stop.

[@mikeerstad4828]

Another EXCELLENT video!! Very awesome information!! Thanks for all you guys do!! Great teamwork to make the dream work!!

[@jeffdrobick7008]

The shop is looking amazing. I love the 2nd story on that end - I'm hoping to do this one day. Impressive work and thank you for all the detailed knowledge / sharing.

[@Das_burrito]

gregs reaction to the tongue in the groove part omg

[@daveweihe2024]

Watching you guys frame that shop made me so happy

[@f0rumrr]

Ive loved this building series, you are such a great teacher.

[@rickcassell9613]

What a nice space, as always top notch craftsmanship. Well done love your videos, keep them coming.👍👍

[@geneparmesan8827]

Kyle , in the past I’ve used turn buckles to straighten girders . Works really well !!

[@0toTSX]

I'm loving it! You guys are awesome, and you're living my dream! Keep it up!

[@tmenzella]

I’m so into this build. Love your work guys. Genuinely excited when a new episode drops 😂😂

[@dougmacrae9535]

Really a great job you guys. Really neat to see it all come together.

[@harrytaylor6854]

Yes very nice space well done guy's thank you for sharing

[@davelindgren5245]

Congrats on completing a big step. Nothing like building something for yourself.

[@adampovis2831]

I have no idea about half of the things you said, but it's fun watchingvbuikdings being out together. I like watching the progress during my house being built. Could have saved a bunch of money if i could have built it myself.

[@arifnoor8358]

Greg laughed at "putting tounge in the groove" 😅

[@curtispriddy3872]

KEEP IT UP!

[@ajfenske8168]

"..oh 100% dude, like this will be a hang point for sure!" 😂😂 Love that genuine excitement!

[@jeffgibson1816]

You guys are the best, how you guys get along is so important.

[@jimyounger9490]

I’m gonna say that beam isn’t sagging at all. There’s a lot of bracing in it and look’s quite stout. Also keep in mind how hot it will be up there when planning your hvac. Some good circulation and air conditioning for da man cave !!

[@jasonnelson2744]

Did he say in another video that he is doing a minisplit for the upstairs? I thought I heard it in 1 video which if he does will keep that area comfortable all year.

[@jimyounger9490]

@@jasonnelson2744 ya know I have no idea.

[@ShenanigansWrenchRepeat]

Love the "loft"! Its a dream of mine to have a similar shop setup. Big area for working on cars and metal fab, smaller area under the loft for a wood shop, upstairs for a guest bedroom or two, pool table, living room hang out area. Thanks for the awesome content and inspiration 🤘🤘🤘

[@freddien7]

Another great Knowlegable video Thanks Kyle. Loving the series.

[@markgilles-ih8go]

Astounding 2nd story floor, some serious ingenuity! Liked "Hang point for sure"!

[@justinwelsh7317]

One of the more anticipated videos in the series. Was waiting to see how the second floor was going to be. Awesome job

[@robertlaird6746]

I love that space and plan on doing something very similar. Mine will be slightly different because I'm not going after a building as large as yours. I also want vaulted ceilings and will not use trusses.

[@johnmorgan897]

I'm loving that mezz already.

[@terrykeithley6183]

Hey Kyle, don't forget to get That Tongue in the Groove. Mean while Greg is busting a gut.😂😊

[@BoboBeest]

Great work guys! Love it!

[@Ty1on3twelve]

Good morning on a cold sunny Saturday in SE Wisconsin. Milwaukee WI specifically.

[@tjjm1907]

Phenomenal! Must be nice to have a fairly free hand with costs.

[@michaelnilson9876]

This is going to be an awesome building, great work

[@dougdiplacido2406]

A little pre drilling on those long constructions screws makes them draw things together better and is easier on the driver. Looking great. Thanks for the super video.

[@Matthew37128]

I had to do the math on your floor since I'm an EWP designer. You stated you had a span of 22' 10-7/8" with a 12" on center spacing. Using our BCI 14" 90s I joist, here are the results. Your max deflection is .312", or 5/16", in the center of the joist. Damn near zero bounce. Not bad. I have the calc sheet saved if you like.

[@thomastt1]

love this project . I so want to turn this exact build into a home!

[@robertlaird6746]

If you put your tung in the grove it makes for a better connection and that way you don't have to jam it in so hard :)

[@kennethorton3661]

Awesome second floor build

[@TheBillyBlack]

I was lost in the reasoning not to run twin lvl’s on the bottom cord of your girder truss. Hearing you at 26:40 confess brought me renewed peace.

[@MrMack201]

Gregs face when you said "putting your tongue in the groove" hahahaha; Love it!!!!

[@ynotracing2221]

Thats a very nice shop, I dream to have a shop like that one day. I like how you guys are able to get a lot done in a single video, but still do a very good job of explaining not only what you are doing but why you are doing it. Keep up the good work. Also, it's great that you have a camera person, we can really see all that's going on vs just a camera on a tripod.

[@overwatch2671]

The floor looks great. I agree with you. The LVL laminated to the girder would have been optimal, but learn as you go and make executive decisions when you have to.

[@brianflanders5831]

Well done. Looks awesome

[@Jeff-bg7pt]

Excellent Mez floor even better when it's finished

[@One_Crazy_Dog_Mum]

I’m with Greg, the tongue in the groove had me PMSL, lots of “that’s what she said” moments in this one. 😂

[@scotstafford2137]

One thing I would have done with the large truss is to... 1 use a jack to eliminate the negative vertical deflection 2 face each complete side with 3/4 OSB product fastened with decking glue and ring shanks on 6" centers on all truss members this would stiffen, straighten, and help control the deflection. another advantage would be to remove total reliance on the nail plates. i just don't trust them over time with an active load.

[@OriginalJetForMe]

Definitely looking forward to the insulation details.

[@HortonHill]

Awesome job!

[@tom-5792]

Love to see the calculation on that girder truss carrying the floor load!

[@jasongreenwood3260]

The inuendo in this episode is thick!!

[@christopher-ricks]

34m40s... Greg LOLING. Made the Tongue and groove even funny!

[@roderickmarruffo7600]

Great job, now to watch til it's finished with a walk through...

[@jaguarman1983]

Love this series. One suggestion though. Either lag or carriage bolt that LVL to the outside wall. As it stands, I think those screws are the weakest link. Keep up the great work!