My EARLY 2025 AFL Ladder Prediction

[@dennym6270]

As a crows fan, if we finish 14th, Nicks will be packing his bags and saying goodbye

[@YvonneMcLay]

Before the end of the season too

[@blade5883]

Yep

[@lachlangaming7866]

@@dennym6270 they are probably 12-6th place. 5 or higher is too high

[@Mike...01]

6th

[@everythingessendon548]

2nd in round 15 15th by round 24

[@Manwithoutplans]

Pick 3 + melbournes pick 1

[@kyalking1313]

@@everythingessendon548 I don’t see the dees doing well next year either that’s why I was fine with them trading pick 9, but knowing the dons luck they’ll probably finish top 4. 😢

[@TheLaughingMagpie]

My ladder 1. Geelong 2. Collingwood 3. Hawthorn 4. Brisbane 5. Fremantle 6. Adelaide 7. Carlton 8. Gold Coast 9. Sydney 10. Western Bulldogs 11. Port Adelaide 12. Greater Western Sydney 13. St Kilda 14. Essendon 15. West Coast 16. North Melbourne 17. Melbourne 18. Richmond

[@stevenprice6957]

Pies cats ? I can see both missing the 8. We all see things differently

[@kdzdr]

@@stevenprice6957 Anyone can miss the top 8 but they're definitely the two teams most likely to sit on top of the ladder in 2025

[@stevenprice6957]

@@kdzdrOk. I have cats 10th. Pies 9th. Both teams around there.

[@frarfarf]

LMAO talk about delusional biased fanboys. Collingwood won ONE more game than Melbourne last year but of course they are going to shoot in opposite directions and bookend the ladder HAHAH especially with Melbourne getting back full strength Oliver and Petracca, two of the top 5 players in the comp... just plaain clownish

[@TheLaughingMagpie]

@@frarfarfOliver and Petracca are just 2 players, yes you have Gawn, May and Lever as well, but next to that you have a culture where players are out of control and players who show no respect to opposition as well as complacency and entitlement. Collingwood for players have the Daicoses, the younger is a top 2 player, De Goey, Moore, Houston, Pendlebury, Maynard, Elliott, Hill, Quaynor, Howe and Crisp

[@joshcamwhite]

I know Carlton were disappointing last year, but having them finish 12th is mad. Easy fixture, players back from injuries. Top 4 this year.

[@TopFix]

60 - 0

[@Josh-wp1cc]

They always have an easy fixture though, and they still always either miss finals or barely scrape in. We saw it this year, if Cripps isn't tearing the oppo apart and putting Carlton on his back, they're doomed because nobody else wants to lift. Couple that in with their sub-par game plan and weak mentality, the Blues missing the 8 isn't too farfetched.

[@GhostOfRT300]

Easy fixture - top 4

[@wizzylizzy69]

Its not a flag winning side, defence has one good player, midfield has one and a half good players, have 2 decent key forwards and bum smalls.

[@gbruno99]

TDK is literally the difference of the Blues being a contender or being a very average side. He stays on the park the entire campaign the Blues will do alright

[@thequartersfooty]

Freo can make at least top 4. Its all comes down to three factors: Consistency: Winning more games and having more consistent performances, don't let close games slip though the fingers. Aggressive Forward Fire Power: Keep firing in the forward line, now that Freo have heaps of options in goalkickers, use all the weapons as possible, high scoring with high percentage. Healthy Players: Keep the team as injury free as possible, especially with key players.

[@Greeny13g]

So basically the 3 things that kept us out of finals in 2024 lol

[@thequartersfooty]

@@Greeny13g Bingo, the 3 objectives The Dockers cannot afford to screw up.

[@threestumps7560]

As a Bombers fan, 15th place prediction sounds about right if we play a younger and less experienced team than this year. Would love for us to finish higher but will not hold my breath.

[@popsceneblur06]

Membership cards will be melted in microwaves if Essendon finish 15th

[@TheLaughingMagpie]

Or on BBQs

[@Prodigy97cast1]

Essendon wont finish in 15th, he never rates us so

[@spindoctor6385]

That would make great content. I can't wait

[@Johny-jy5vo]

They already have been 10 years ago

[@dylanneylon3996]

Where does their improvement come from? It’s hard to see them not finishing bottom four

[@BazFooty]

Crows are being slept on. You have to consider how good their fixture is next year as well and they could potentially finish at 10th-4th in my opinion. Also had 5 great pickups during the offseason.

[@jkandte]

Got the worst coach in the league by a landslide though

[@blade5883]

​@@jkandte but still have a list to finish top 8

[@kdzdr]

@@jkandte rage bait

[@prolegend10000]

There's always a team that finished in the bottom 4 making finals the next year so....

[@evan08rhys09]

Crows struggle to win away, struggle to win the close games, struggle to close out a game when in front at 3 quarter time and without Tex operating at full efficiency and with Rahilly gone, our attacking is diabolical. Nicks is Pyke 2.0

[@BDub2024]

Freo can certainly finish 3rd to 6th. They have depth but I'm concerned they haven't exposed enough guys to important roles. Any injuries are a worry.

[@Andy-o2f]

Ladder predictions are on a par with mock drafts. The variance increases exponentially once you get past the established favorites.

[@RRAAII17]

Pre-Finals ladder prediction 1. Sydney 2. Geelong 3. Brisbane 4. Collingwood 5. Fremantle 6. Port Adelaide 7. Carlton 8. GWS 9. Hawthorn 10. Western Bulldogs 11. St Kilda 12. Gold Coast 13. Melbourne 14. Adelaide 15. Essendon 16. North Melbourne 17. West Coast 18. RIchmond

[@SirFluffy100]

More thumbs on this bloke, except weird Sydney placement

[@RRAAII17]

@@SirFluffy100 They will have a lot to prove early this year, and have as much talent as anyone in the league. If Cox is a good coach they shouldn't be slept on. Could be a 2011 Geelong scenario

[@SirFluffy100]

@@RRAAII17 I like to hear that, Collingwood top of ladder year :)

[@OsciG12]

I think West Coast is capable of more than 17th. Even though the defense will probably be garbage and we're getting a new coach, that coach knows how to win. He won 7 out of 13 games as interim coach for Richmond in 2023, he has a good attacking mindset that should help this team win games and as seen in 2024, if the players can work as a team they will win games. I'd imagine West Coast wins 6 or 7 games and place 15th or 14th.

[@evan08rhys09]

My Ladder 1) Lions 2) Cats 3) Dockers 4) Pies 5) Blues 6) Swans 7) Dogs 8) Hawks 9) Power 10) Suns 11) Giants 12) Demons 13) Crows 14) Saints 15) Roos 16) Bombers 17) Eagles 18) Tigers

[@BDub2024]

My concern with the Dorkers is if they lose Brayshaw and Serong. Those guys have barely missed a game for years and been largely fit. They are so important to the team and I'm not sure if the Dorkers have given the support staff enough games and experience in key roles. Likewise in key defensive roles, injuries would hurt them. Dorker fans need to ask the club why they haven't given guy more game time and thrown guys around in multiple roles to develop flexibility. I reckon they have good depth on paper, but seem to lack the experience. So any injury crisis could really hurt them more than it should.

[@Hasbulla42069]

U could say that for pretty much every team tho

[@BDub2024]

@@Hasbulla42069 I reckon those 2 guns are so important. Then you have guys that have played constant WAFL or been fringe bench players or forwarsd specialists like Switowski. I think they've missed a trick to give guys more experience in important roles.

[@Bendyrulz]

The dorkers! That’s a ripper!

[@ch1234455]

Gotta take into consideration the amount of injuries Adelaide had to key position players in 2024 (Thilthorpe and Murray namely) not to mention Rankine missing 8 games through injury and suspension. They are being slept on

[@haihai9022]

Here are mine. (Not in order) Top 6 - Hawthorn, Brisbane, Geelong, Collingwood, Sydney Swans, GWS 50/50 - Carlton, Port, St Kilda, Footscray, Freo, Gold Coast Bottom 6- Richmond, West Coast, Essendon, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Adelaide If anyone want to see what my actual ladder would look like, then I will do one soon

[@Mike...01]

No thanks

[@chrisd_85]

I agree with Essendon @15th. As a bombers fan, i think we need to completely rebuild from scratch and focus on the draft. Im just really worried about our coaching team. Our assistant coaches are very poor imo (gia, stanton, Hurley, jacobs, cloke, tapping) Brad Scott also has a history of not playing kids on a regular basis which we need to do to develop them.

[@Florine.Xavalien]

I get wanting to be neutral despite being an Eagles fan but man, 17th would be insane I can't see a world where Parker, Darling and Daniels make North jump us by a lot and I think we're a much better team than last year so finishing 17th would be a disaster

[@Whatareyatalkinabet]

I had a very similar order but had the Dogs lower. Don’t rate their backline, heaps of old players likely to drop off. Same with their midfield.

[@dylanneylon3996]

Dogs had the #1 rated defence last year on stats and most of their team are young. Wut

[@Whatareyatalkinabet]

@ Lobb, Duryea, Jones all very old. Treloar and Liberatore old now too. Think again.

[@tigertalk3690]

Richmond winning the flag I never said what year

[@SirFluffy100]

Probs in 3690 lol

[@Miguel_0011Z]

Imma embrace all the numpties putting the blues outside the 8, gonna be funny to watch what you guys think next year then when we finish top 4

[@J_ZD]

Agree that we will drop into the bottom 4 this year. We've gone as far as possible with the current list which is awful. It hasn't worked and now we have to undo the mess that Dudoro has left behind, so the only way forward is to go backwards by hitting the draft, playing youth and getting rid of our pathetic senior core that shit themselves at the pointy end of the season It's where we deserve to be anyway, we've been a bottom 4 side for years trying to top up and scrape into the 8th only to not get any further no mans land, just need to look at our % 2020 - 79.2% (16th) 2022 - 93.2% (16th) 2023 - 89.7% (15th) 2024 -93.5% (16th) 1 Geelong 2 Brisbane 3 Carlton 4 Fremantle 5 Hawthorn 6 Collingwood 7 GWS 8 Port Adelaide 9 Sydney 10 Western Bulldogs 11 Gold Coast 12 Adelaide 13 Melbourne 14 St Kilda 15 Essendon 16 North Melbourne 17 West Coast 18 Richmond

[@jackj9070]

My Ladder Prediction 1. Brisbane 2. Hawthorn 3. Fremantle 4. GWS 5. Carlton 6. Geelong 7. Sydney 8. Western Bulldogs 9. Gold Coast 10. Adelaide 11. St Kilda 12. Collingwood 13. Port Adelaide 14. Essendon 15. Melbourne 16. North Melbourne 17. West Coast 18. Richmond

[@jacksonmiller9380]

As if Collingwood will not be top 8 at least

[@BDub2024]

I reckon Giants Carlton will be in finals and probably Melb and Gold Coast. So really difficult to predict. In your ladder it would be four clubs in your 8 missing out. I'm not convinced about Essendon and reckon they could slip into the bottom 3. Even the Saints could plummet.

[@YvonneMcLay]

Melbourne are a weird one, if Petracca and Oliver return to form and Lever, May, Pickett, Viney, Gawn all stay fit and play 20 plus games then they can make finals, but there’s an awful lot of ifs in that statement.

[@spindoctor6385]

Some good calls but I think the top four will look completely different. No way Geelong and Collingwood make top four. I think North and WC jump up a bit. Richmond, Essendon, Carlton and Melbourne will all be bottom 7. I hope you pull out this vid and the game by game prediction and see which one is closer at the end of the season.

[@BradenAdsett]

Cracking video

[@NA_GA09]

Collingwood, Bulldogs and Melbourne are on the slide in 2025. Teams to watch out for are Fremantle, Hawthorn and St Kilda.

[@TheonePorps]

Saints on the watch 😂😂😂😂😂 pies are way above saints and so are melbourne what are u smoking

[@tonyrizos3184]

Carlton finish the last six weeks with the best of the six weeks having half of its top 22 to pick from this oversight instantly makes this list irrelevant

[@Larzra]

Not mad about my Saints at 10th. I still see us in that 8-12 bracket, very young team. There'll be exciting games for sure, but not consistently yet.

[@mark8860]

I honestly have adelaide rising and potentially making the 8. They really underperformed in 2024 and made a couple good pickups this off season. They get an easier fixture too.

[@seanchristie7150]

Fantastic assessment, not sure I agree with all your calls, will be very interesting to see how the list changes next time you assess it and again at tbe end of the Home n Away season. I feel that the Saints, Geelong, Collingwood and Sydney are vulnerable, Freo, Brisbane n GWS are there abouts. I feel West Coast n North should do better than last year n if Gold Coast can get their away game together anything is possible. Dogs, Demons n Bombers could throw a spanner in the works. Hope the move goes well and enjoy your Christmas 💙💛🦅🏆

[@FidgetMDCCLXIV]

1. Geelong 2. Hawthorn 3. Collingwood 4. Carlton 5. Gold Coast 6. Brisbane 7. Adelaide 8. Sydney 9. Western Bulldogs 10. Fremantle 11. GWS 12. St Kilda 13. Port Adelaide 14. Essendon 15. North Melbourne 16. Melbourne 17. Essendon 18. Richmond

[@markhopley6645]

Great effort again like all your videos up to now . Only positions I would disagree with gold. Coast and Melbourne in the 8 and a hardened Finals team in Brisbane with The inclusion of all there long term injured players and the fabulous draftees will finish on. Top again

[@wophles]

Don't hate it at all, nice work. Fixture & home ground advantage will be on steroids this year.

[@BDub2024]

Sydney should be up there again. It will be a tough mental job to be up there all year.

[@gwilkes5325]

I know this will look weird, but I can explain every decision 1. Geelong 2. Carlton 3. Collingwood 4. Adelaide ------ 5. Brisbane 6. Fremantle 7. Hawthorn 8. Gold Coast ------ 9. Port Adelaide 10. Saint Kilda 11. Western Bulldogs 12. Sydney 13. GWS 14. Essendon 15. North Melbourne 16. Melbourne 17. West Coast 18. Richmond

[@_..Justin-Case.._]

Do we really think Port are going to be better than Sydney?

[@ralphgomeze8873]

I think West Coast will end up around 12th. Harley Reid will have a full preseason and he is a good barometer of how many games we will win. Added depth of Baker. And a full preseason by Elijah Hewitt who is a new recruit. Owies along with Liam Ryan who needs a full preseason in the forward line to support Allen and Waterman.

[@297fihsy]

I like the optimism and they might finish 12th in other years but there will be a lot of good teams next year. I can’t see them being better than six teams

[@BDub2024]

I reckon Geelong will drop back and be 6 to 10. Collingwood will improve and have one last roll of the dice. But any injuries to key players and they will really drop away. I think Melbourne should finish in top 8 too, if the players come back committed. The ruck and midfield is critical.

[@anappropriatehandle]

bloody tough to predict, I have the crows around 10th, less injuries to important players like Murray and filthy, rankine playing some more games. I have the pies in 13th which is a big difference to yours. I won't give you any shit though, genuinely could be like 10 clubs going for those last few spots in finals.

[@didds8869]

Sydney are flag contenders but not top 4? How can one be on the jedi council and not be granted the rank of master?

[@kelstra1997]

A few big calls there Jesse. A lot of people did this for the season just finished and I don't believe a single person got it right. I think you can be certain that no one will get it right next year either. I don't think anyone would be more surprised than yourself if this prediction turns out to be okay. I think your biggest call here isn't the Pies (I actually agree with you here) but Carlton. I actually reckon the Baggers are as good as any team and could well hold up the cup on Grand Final day. I guess you are about to leave the English winter and come home to sunny Perth. It's going to feel very hot at first.

[@kanewhite2161]

Carltons list is one of the best. Their gameplay on the other hand is utter trash.

[@darthgeros5863]

carlton 12th is going to come back to haunt you

[@BDub2024]

Eagles reckon Calrton will finish above Hawks. Hence the trade done during draft period for 2025 picks.

[@ShadowLight-kn7rl]

It's completely fair to have the bottom 3 as you've put it. North have everything to prove in simply performing better to win some games and it's understandable to trust in history as the justification to tip NM in the bottom 3 until they show they're otherwise capable of climbing the ladder. And I'm a North supporter so go figure.

[@aflsnaps8317]

The Google sheets thing is so pointless why couldn’t you just do tiermaker ffs

[@stephendunlop4297]

Maybe I’m biased but surely the blues if injury free will make the 8, especially with the draw they got given.

[@thome7318]

Collingwood and Geelong are both as old as the hills and I don't think either will make the top 4

[@zaco21_]

As usual the Crom are being heavily slept on, watch us finish 9th and miss out on finals by percentage 🔥

[@Oliviben]

I think I might be alone in this, but Melbourne to rocket back into the 8 and doggies finishing in the bottom 4. Melbourne having Petracca back is huge, and I think JVR breaks out. As for the doggies, there is absolutely no logic to this, just getting a bad vibe from Whitten oval

[@richardwood9177]

Collingwood list is too old. They won’t last.

[@JeffBurn-b1i]

You're wrong about West Coast and I question whether you are a Eagles supporter?

[@pletsas6243]

I just don't understand how some people have this unfounded expectation of the west coast eagles lol. Graham, Baker and Owies are not superstars. Baker is a good player, the other 2 are below average. Have lost Barrass a superstar, had Darling leave, and Gaff retire. Have had extremely limited draft picks for how poor they've been, Ginbey and Hewett haven't met expectations. Jobe will take a couple of years before he impacts. This best 22 is even so far behind North's now. What are you expecting, Kelly and Reid to be All Australians? Bo Allan to be the next Judd? Cripps, Sheed and Ryan to wind back the clock? Yeo and Mcgovern extremely injured are 32/33.

[@JeffBurn-b1i]

@pletsas6243 That my friend is why West Coast are the wealthiest club and always pack the stadium. How many Richmond memberships will go in the microwave this season?

[@77nahnah]

Collingwood and Geelong flag contenders is crazy. Will be amazed if the pies make the 8 and Geelong will sneak in thanks to the green team

[@Eaglesjohn25]

Good ladder predictions

[@Ae24-w2s]

If the roos can’t lift off bottom two it might be the end for us

[@stevenprice6957]

I’m predicting the Roos to be flying early. Like in the 8 Judy before the half way mark and a hot line Essendon on in recent times, just fade late. North are still so young. Watch them out off some upset early season if injuries are kind. 100 year with dogs hawks. They’ll Al have good years

[@garrybhaints255]

Geelong top 2,or minor premiers ,making it to the grand final,lions,gws,freo,blues top 6 teams

[@rooey101donovan9]

How can Geelong be flag contenders? They'll drop to final aspirants I reckon.

[@jgraaay18]

Eh, never count the Cats out. Yeah, they've lost Tuohy and Tomahawk (who was really falling off at the end of the season anyway), but they have this annoying tendency to just get it done and be up there in the mix. If Bailey Smith is firing this season he'll be an absolute weapon for them, the Cats will be a nightmare for everyone else if their midfield finds a high gear.

[@rooey101donovan9]

@jgraaay18 Could be right, hopefully his ACL and other injuries haven't damaged him in the long term. Would be amazing if he gets going with Holmes. But other than those two there's not too much depth there in the middle anymore. I reckon they should've re-signed Parfitt to a rookie deal at least.

[@tonygeorgievski712]

Pies are open window for some time yet. It’s pure fantasy to think otherwise.

[@bman3074]

Zero chance crows are that low

[@travissimpkins8840]

Yeah baby, March cannot come soooooon enough.

[@George-s6r1v]

Freo also have Shai Bolton, the most naturally talented footballer in the league, He will give the Dockers an explosiveness this side has never had. He can do more with less.

[@prolegend10000]

Heres my Ladder Predictions for 2025: 1. Hawthorn (I'm on the Hok train. They're going to have the scariest backline in the league with the likes of Sicily, Barrass, Battle, Scrimshaw, Impey, and Amon. To those think they over-achieved, think again. 2025 could be the year no Hawks fan will ever forget) 2. Brisbane (Our reigning premiers will be aiming to go back-to-back and I see them most likely to succeed with so many key players returning from injury, Joe Daniher is a big out for them as they can't replace him, but it'll let the lions look for more options in their forward line) 3. Fremantle (This is now their best chance to be known as Flagmantle. Introducing Shai Bolton into the forward line along with Brayshaw, Serong, and Young in the Midfield, and Pearce and Ryan in the Backline is making Freo no doubt their best chance of lifting their first cup in history) 4. Western Bulldogs (We all underestimated Luke Berveridge, forgetting that he is the most successful Bulldogs coach. Introducing Kennedy is gonna turn the Dogs midfield from 100 to 1000. The Bont is going to become the biggest Brownlow contender, and the young forwards (Ugle-Hagen, Darcy, Weightman) are ready to explode) 5. Geelong (Goodbye Tom Hawkins, Hello Bailey Smith. These cats are ready to become what they were in 2022, premiership contenders) 6. Sydney (They were horrible in the 2022 Grand Final, 2024 they were way worse, Horse has called it quits, no Parker, they are gonna be under severe pressure in 2025, but they're just too good to not make finals. Heeney, Warner, and Gulden are building this Midfield that no doubt every team is gonna struggle beating) 7. Collingwood (My beloved Magpies will return to finals and that's a fact. With the inclusion of Dan Houston, Tim Membery, and Harry Perryman, we will become an unstoppable force. The reason I have them 7th is because we have a difficult fixture ahead of us, and Billy Frampton) 8. Adelaide (There's always a team that finishes in the bottom 4 and makes finals the next season. Look at Brisbane, St Kilda, Sydney, Collingwood, GWS, and Hawthorn. The crows plan to take a huge step backwards before making a giant leap forward. Crom fans, let 2025 be your season) 9. Carlton (Even though I hate Carlton so much, they don't deserve to not make finals in 2025, they got great inclusions with Haynes and Smith, and Silvagni coming back from injury. However, they've lost Kennedy and Owies which could hurt the blues next season) 10. St Kilda (They're gonna be my team to watch in 2025. Their defence and forward line look great and if they finally nail their Midfield with the introduction of Jack Macrae, they'll make finals) 11. Gold Coast (Best season in 2024, I think they'll go 1 win better in 2025. They got strong talent in their team, a brilliant coach in Dimma with 3 premierships to his name, and a red shirt. Can't wait for the Suns to realise how bad their rebrand is) 12. Port Adelaide (I feel like I'm underestimating Port and Ken Hinkley after a poor finals performance, but the reason I have them missing finals is that they have too many good players and I feel they'll put their talent to waste. Plus, I don't them in finals after Ken getting into hot water with Ginni and Sicily) 13. GWS (They reviewed the Semi-Final loss WAY TOO LATE (should have been one or two days after the loss). This club now has really deep scars that they're gonna bring into 2025. There's no way I see GWS making finals after choking winning margins in 2 Finals Series. They have lost 3 key players, brought in The Package who's in the twilight of his career, and Adam Kingsley might be haunted by those two finals. They need to take a big step backwards before taking a gaint leap forward back to finals) 14. Essendon (They're bad, but not that bad. They have unbelievable talent and a good coach in Brad Scott, but I feel like they have put some of the pieces in the wrong place, explaining how they missed finals this year) 15. North Melbourne (They have all the elements they need to get out of the bottom two, for a while, and with more experienced players in the team to inspire this young club, they can get out of the bottom 4 in 2026) 16. West Coast (The McQualter era has begun, but I think they'll need one more season to begin flying again) 17. Melbourne (The club has lost its culture and its spirit. Their forward structure is a huge mess. I could see them losing winnable games. No wonder Clays and Trac wanted to leave) 18. Richmond (There's no other place I see the Tigers finishing. However, if they have a healthy list with less injuries, they'll do better than 2024)

[@Manwithoutplans]

Placing gws at 13th is crazy

[@Miguel_0011Z]

Let go off Kennedy and Owies for a reason, it won’t hurt us, it’ll make us better

[@linkvagar2336]

How are Collingwood going to improve enought to make top 4? Geelong won't back up this years performance. Neither will Hawthorn.

[@BDub2024]

I reckon Hawks will drop away before they build up again. Certainly the Eagles are expecting Hawks to drop away and for Carlton to be above them. Hence the picks they swapped in 2025.

[@itsben354]

I can’t see Geelong making top 4

[@Croweaterrr]

If the crom get 14th again im going to give up

[@brandoncavallaro4982]

i fully expect freo st start hot and crumble and fall out of the 8

[@AFLMARBELS]

I’m not even gonna mention Carlton, I’m just gonna save the video

[@TopFix]

60 - 0

[@AFLMARBELS]

@ 19 injuries

[@TMELOMAGPIES1892]

Dan Houston should make them better 😌

[@SaxonClarke-g6h]

I think eagles would be finish 12th place

[@richardwood9177]

Hawks will have second year blues

[@Drobson18]

I've got Collingwood, Geelong, Brisbane and Hawks all going backwards and not finishing top 6

[@richardwood9177]

Carlton to miss finals? If that happens Voss is gone.

[@dylanneylon3996]

Dogs top 4 lock

[@UbuteyAustralia]

Stick just watching the games as assertions on who will make just dont hold up🤔😩🥊

[@mujtabarashid3847]

Ladder predictions: 1. Brisbane 2. Collingwood 3. Geelong 4. Giants 5. Bulldogs 6. Essendon 7. Fremantle 8. Gold Coast 9. Carlton 10. St. Kilda 11. Port Adelaide 12. Hawthorn 13. Sydney 14. Melbourne 15. Adelaide Crows 16. North Melbourne 17. West Coast 18. Richmond

[@Golfcartslayer]

Come on. Melbourne top 3

[@gregssports]

Richmond has a better chance finishing in the top 2 than Collingwood...

[@prolegend10000]

...in 2030

[@sam-oh8sr]

carlton and crows way too low

[@blackdox3002]

Suns and hawks big years

[@crashwoahcoot6478]

Collingwood second? Aha. Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha! They just missed finals, have the oldest team in the competition and have upgraded their list with two 30 year old players, and you think they're finishing second? What is it with everyone and overrating Collingwood? Their downfall is more predictable than Richmond's, and i thought they were going to give the premiership one last crack in 2023 before sliding in 2024.

[@fire_titan5735]

Port top 4. Eagles will make the 8. Collingwood and geelong miss finals. Melbourne bottom 4. North and richmond will also surprise

[@garrybhaints255]

😂 port top 4 ,geelong minor premiers or top 2 ,pies I hate them but they will be around 7 or 8

[@jogon9649]

This has to be one of the worst takes

[@fire_titan5735]

@@jogon9649 lucky it doesn't matter

[@UnKnown-wh5ly]

@@fire_titan5735 I agreed with Port, Collingwood, Melbourne and North everything else is a bit wild

[@fire_titan5735]

@UnKnown-wh5ly yeah just a stab in the dark. It's interesting times

[@richardwood9177]

Swans at 8th! No way!

[@tonyrizos3184]

Pies 2nd?…lol OK i know it’s not April and it’s not the 80’s anymore…R U HIGH!? lol

[@timothyokane766]

Carlton and Geelong to miss finals Collingwood top 4

[@adriantrigona8922]

No clue lol

[@garrybhaints255]

Pies wont be in the top 2 ,rather lions ,gws,blues or freo

[@loufolino7336]

Pies, lions, port dogs won’t make 8 Blues will finish top

[@2technoboy2]

Sorry how did i miss this…. Collingwood 2nd- ur crazy, i like you but ur crazy

[@stevenprice6957]

Back to back is hard especially for a interstate team. I actually have all your outside contenders as the real contenders bar port. Blues hawks dockers dogs giants. Those are the teams to beat for mine. Cats between 7th 13th. Pies the same. Not enough upside happening there. Swans I can’t back as well as port. The ladder will be changing next year.

[@willallen2848]

Carlton 12th? 😂😂 laughable

[@TopFix]

60 - 0 is laughable

[@Jazzred]

You’re right they should be lower 😂

[@mickryles759]

No it's not 😂..

[@Miguel_0011Z]

@@JazzredLadder is gonna upset ya next year then

[@Miguel_0011Z]

@@TopFix and what’s the context of that?

[@deanbeissel2807]

I looked at the squad changes from this year to next and decided which squad would improve, based on natural growth and also trades/drafting and came up with this….agreed it’s super hard!! Collingwood Brisbane Fremantle Haw Geelong PA Sydney Adel GWS Carlton Bulldogs GC NM Essendon Melb Stk WC Richmond

[@blairdowker6036]

🤣🤣🤣 freo and geelong that high is mad .. this guy is high 😂

[@garrybhaints255]

Freo got 11 or 12 home games ,geelong got 10 home games both can finish easily in the top 4

[@blairdowker6036]

@ how’d that go for them this year

[@garrybhaints255]

@@blairdowker6036 geelong season was gone good as ,we are talking about next season

[@peterstaines9047]

Since 2018 when the WCE beat the Pies in the GF, Tigers (2020), Dees (2021), Cats (2022) & Pies (2023) have all won using a basic principle of either beating the reigning premiers or the Cats, backing it up, belting the GC Suns, backing it up, finishing top 3 and winning in that same year. The following year, most have struggled to beat the GC Suns and the natural slide of these sides can be seen by using this method. Year 1 (after GF has been won/lost, etc). Reigning Premiers next season finish 2-12th, runners-up 3rd-8th. Year 2 Premiers 3rd-12th, R/Up 1st-12th. Year 3 Premiers 7th-17th, R/Up 7th-17th. Year 4 Premiers 7th-17th, R/Up 4th - 17th. Year 5 Premiers 8th-18th, R/Up 1st-12th. 2024 Early Prediction for me (I'm a Pies supporter) was Pies were entitled to finish 2nd-12th, Lions 3rd-8th. Cats based on 2 GF's (2020 & 2022) were entitled to finish 7th-17th & 3rd -12th. Dees & Dogs Year 3. Dees 7th-17th, Dogs 7th-17th. Season 2025 Pies(2023) 3rd-12th, Lions (2023)1st -12th & (2024) 3rd-12th, Cats (2020) 1st-12th & (2022) 7th-17th, Swans (2022) 7th-17th & (2024) 3rd-8th, Dees (2021) 7th-17th, Dogs (2021) 4th-17th, Tigers (2020) 8th-18th. This a system of rating Premiers & Runners-Up only. Year 3 can be a tricky year for both sides who win the GF or come runners-up as they can slide down the ladder quite easily...

[@Repotsirhc38]

GWS Cats Port Blues Lions Bombers Swans Dockers Dogs Hawks Suns Pies Crows Dees Saints Eagles Nth Tigers

[@2technoboy2]

Bulldogs wayyyyy overrated dude. Hawks will come off last years high

[@TigerTime3672]

Here are my current ladder predictions: (Just my Opinion) 1. Brisbane 2. GWS 3. Geelong 4. Hawthorn 5. Collingwood 6. Sydney 7. Carlton 8. Bulldogs 9. Port Adelaide 10. Fremantle 11. Adelaide 12. Gold Coast 13. St Kilda 14. Essendon 15. Melbourne 16. North Melbourne 17. West Coast 18. Richmond

[@davebell6624]

🤣This prediction is laughable.

[@azzarzi]

My Ladder: 1st: Collingwood 2nd: Geelong 3rd: Sydney 4th: Brisbane 5th: Bulldogs 6th: Giants 7th: Hawks 8th: St Kilda 9th: Fremantle 10th: Gold Coast 11th: Carlton 12th: Port Adelaide 13th: Essendon 14th: Adelaide 15th: Melbourne 16th: North Melbourne 17th: West Coast 18th: Richmond

[@jayrope8180]

I’m thinking the dogs take 15th

[@richardwood9177]

GWS is better than Hawthorn.

[@mal1760]

Essendon 15th? Are you on drugs?!!

[@Mbert7246]

Too high ?

[@richardwood9177]

No way Essendon finish 15th. Not making finals but knocking on the door.

[@Jazzred]

Right, Essendon 16th

[@prolegend10000]

Essendon have the pieces, they're just in the wrong places

[@brettcoles5262]

Correct mate, I think 15th is too high as well :}