My Experience of Anti-depressants (SSRI)

[@smays]

Thank you. That took courage but you might have saved a life. Or improved one. So glad you are with us.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

I second that!👍

[@stonyjon.w1475]

Absolutely agree. I venture to say that the world is a better place with people like Max in it.

[@justjim3168]

Well said.

[@dadawoodslife]

My Dr sent me to a counsellor once. After an hour the bloke said ( as I remember it) "you're not depressed, you're just living a shit life." That insight saved me from antidepressants and is exactly what you talked about: appropriate emotional response to circumstance.

[@michaelsteffensen6844]

Exactly. Depression is a mental illness. There's nothing "ill" about being unhappy with an unfulfilling life. In fact, it's an entirely healthy and necessary response.

[@rebel4466]

That's actually a very important thing. To oversimplify it: You're not depressed if you're unhappy for a reason. But still medication can help, even if not depressed. Like a painkiller is useful, even though you need to get your broken leg fixed.

[@Chicken42069p]

good that your counsellor said that, a good one perhaps

[@sitaruim]

Good man, that bloke.

[@jakedubs]

If you had won the lottery, or had your side hustle/business grow to millions of dollars; within 2 days, all of your symptoms of depression would disappear. You would get a private chef to cook you healthy food, you would have so much time to exercise, and you would feel confident to talk any beautiful lady. Think of that, you are only 48 hours away from being happy for the rest of your life.

[@stephaniecollier7951]

I feel that depression is a symptom related to having a good heart, an overly caring nature, a propensity for putting other’s needs ahead of your own and a generally kind and caring nature. A higher than average intelligence and intellectual mind can also be a risk factor too. I think you’re going to be just fine and if you have a set back in the future, we’ll you have a lot of experience to draw on. You will also be an invaluable source of help to others who may find themselves on a similar journey Thanks again, best wishes and kind regards Have a good week 👍🏻

[@bastogne315]

Dude that describes me perfectly. Better to be a complete ass hole and beat the shit out of everyone ( can't bring myself to do it though)😍

[@RamonaMcKean]

An awful thing called codependency can sneak in and mess us up lots!!

[@inhale.exhale.2527]

you have just described what is pejoratively referred to as 'codependency', a product of conditional or negligent parenting and care by your primary caregivers. being utterly dependent, this causes dissociation from your true self to get your infantile needs met by putting theirs first. depression and other mh conditions are a result of this developmental dysfunction and trauma. that was not your fault. you were not given the unconditional love in a home that is a safe place to fail that all children deserve. that is your actual starting point towards a full recovery. 🙏

[@inhale.exhale.2527]

give me a thumbs up if this resonates with you. you may have heard of 'codependency', a product of conditional or negligent parenting and care by your primary caregivers. being utterly dependent, this causes dissociation from your true self to get your infantile needs met by putting theirs first. depression and other mh conditions are a result of this developmental dysfunction and trauma including autism. that was not your fault. you were not given the unconditional love in a home that is a safe place to fail that all children deserve. that is your actual starting point towards a full recovery. 🙏

[@RamonaMcKean]

@inhale.exhale.2527 Yes, a thumbs up. I mentioned codependency one month ago in the thread already.

[@kgoldsmith6104]

I am a professional psychotherapist of some 20yrs experience and I agree with everything you’ve expressed here. Not only have you been courageous enough to share your journey publicly, but have managed to deliver it with great eloquence and insight. As you say, one of the most important realisations we can have in life is that there is always hope. I’m so pleased you’ve survived, you are worthy of every second of your existence - well done you on being you 🔆

[@theswime945]

I baulked at the idea of investing 38 minutes in this. Turns out it's the most important 38 minutes I've ever watched on YT. Thank you so much for explaining your experiences so frankly and lucidly. This should be a mandatory watch for trainee doctors and blokes. Cheers.

[@jimdavis8391]

Gotta shout at the devil. ,)

[@MushroomSnake2077]

You and me both pal, I'd left this one bookmarked for far too long, being a guy that has always dealt with my mental state cold turkey, I'm only recently thinking of speaking to a professional. It seemed like a bit of a daunting task to hear about a subect I can consider 'personal' from someone I (in some small way parasocially) admire. As with a lot of his videos, our man Max puts them into words in a way that makes them both in depth and easy to hear, without watering down the subject.

[@garypoulton7311]

same here, wise words, applicable for me, and far too many others

[@mattbennett1502]

Yep I’ve had moments I could have addressed to the doctor,, but I realised that it’s only me that can address why I feel low, what made me feel this way etc. only then, once I’m true to myself, can I pick myself up and deal with it, talk to someone about it. Put it to bed then see life’s to short to let emotions usually caused by others ruin your life…. Reevaluate what’s important and your passionate about and go after it 100% xx

[@kawonnowak]

It is a very sad fact that very few doctors have the time or the inclination to ask "what is or has been happening in your life" when a patient sits themselves down in front of them. If they did, they would uncover the potential to learn enormously more about that patient and their state of health than any amount of asking where it hurts. Thank you Max for taking the time and summoning up the courage to share your experiences.

[@superiorbeing95]

There's a consistency here, hammering iron or talking about depression, when this guy tells a story I'm engrossed. World is much better place with Mr Ironthumper in it for sure.

[@paulbuzzz]

I listened to your story and learned a great deal. I’m 60 and have led an “interesting“ life of chaos and variety. I’ve been treated for most of my adult life for clinical depression. I’m currently on venlafaxine and have been for at least 10 years. I’m having the devil of a job persuading my gp that I would like to come off them to see if I’ve any emotions left! I have been more or less blank for years. I think a lot of people will receive a lift from hearing your story. All strength to you a great success with your fantastic KZbin contributions

[@mopedmarathon]

Iv also been on venlafaxine for 10 years or so. When you say you want to come off it to see if you still have emotions left it sounds like I felt in the past. I do now feel genuinely content for the most part but still get the numbness sometimes. Maybe the numbness reduces as we heal? I don’t know much about the complexities of these things other than my own experiences but just thought I’d put in my 2p worth. Good luck to you sir. I hope you’re journey to contented ness isn’t too much longer. All the best.

[@jeanetteschauerman908]

You don't have to persuade your doctor to come of anything,the choice is yours and entirely up to you.Afrer my life had been destroyed by doctors and psychiatrists from the age of 14 ,when l was prescribed the sleeping tablet Mandrax,later banned by the Goverment,and Stelazine.These drugs caused depression,later l was sent to a psychiatrist to help me get off the Mandrax ,this was back in the early seventies,who used me as a lab rat and gave me ever increasing quantities of all classes of psychotropic medication ,which completely screwed me up ,leading to 54 years on this kind of medication,both the old and the new ,being sectioned multiple times,admission into 5 different mental hospitals ,including 2 of the old asylums,so many overdoses and other suicide attempts that l have lost count,various diagnoses,including, psychotic depression,schizoaffective disorder,Paranoid Schizophrenia,along with a couple of personality disorders ,for good measure.It was the drugs that were causing my symptoms,and making me suicidal.10 years ago,a psychiatric nurse came to give me a depot antipsychotic depression,she told me that she was leaving the job,and l think what she told me next altered the course of my life,for the better.She said that l might not be mentally ill,but it could be the effects of the drugs.This was the first time any medical proffessional had told me that,they had always told me that l needed this poison,and l was often forced to take it.l thought about what this nurse had said,and because by then l was disabled,housebound ,with several health conditions,and in chronic pain,caused by decades of this medication, I made the decision to gradually wean myself off.I told my doctor what l was going to do,read books by American psychiatrist Dr Peter Breggin,on how to withdraw safely ,and began my journey back to better health.This was entirely my choice,and l did it completely by myself,without any help from any doctor,and although the withdrawals were often bad,and in fact l was sectioned twice again,because my doctor didn't understand that my brain was slowly adapting to less and less of the drugs,and 8 years later l was finally free from the grip of these drugs,and had completely escaped what l call The Mental Health Trap.Now,l feel alive ,my mental health never better,my only regret that a big chunk of my life was wasted.Each day now l am thankful to be alive,although l am left with much pain and suffering.l am now 71 ,and if l can do this,anyone can.

[@Patmac74]

I have been on antidepressants for about 10 years. They are most certainly not a quick fix, and to be entirely honest I don't think they are a fix at all. They alleviate symptoms but never cure the root cause of the issue in the first instance. That requires a lot of work on a personal level.. Having seen the entire video, I can 100% identify with your experience "getting off" venlafaxine. It's absolute hell. I have tried several times so am now on a low dose as well as counselling and that works ok for me.

[@dadawoodslife]

You have my sympathies. My first wife was put on Prozac back in the '90s. Changed her, from a competent, intelligent woman with some issues to an angry, nasty person. I didn't see it at the time, too close. We divorced, acrimoniously. Thirty years later I can look back and see the harm that drug did (although I first realised this probably 15 years ago ).

[@melgrant7404]

The problem is you can't fix the underlying problem if it's a life event that has devastated you .for some meds are the only answer.

[@necrosadotor]

quit venlafaxine my second time over a month ago, i'm sure you'll manage eventually. but doing exercise is mandatory

[@jamieandrewyoung]

Different medication but I had awful withdrawals from amitriptyline. Was trying to taper off for months with terrible nausea and ‘brain lightning’, basically small seizures. Going tee total and stopping completely over night kicked in those withdrawals very quickly! Can’t recommend for everyone but worked for me.

[@kostaborojevic498]

Use 5htp or niacin/nicotinamide for withdrawal. Also thiamine and riboflavin and vitb5 and b12 etc. Also vit c and magnesium in masses.

[@lpil]

I wanted to thank you for these honest and open videos. I had a tough couple years a bit back and there were several points when I found your videos useful or reassuring. Your running video was especially appreciated as it inspired me to get back into shape and gave me a project outside and in the fresh air. Did me a power of good. I know this video will help lots of your other viewers too. Cheers Max!

[@peternash6206]

Your comments re: outside project, fresh air and getting back into shape I believe is spot on. Good luck.

[@andrewparfoot6328]

Max, I absolutely applaud you for your blatant honesty. Life isn't an easy ride. Men suffer all sorts of horrendous issues. Medical/personal etc. Have been on antidepressants personally and lived through the side effects. Anyway extremely envious of your abilities and lifestyle. Keep up the progress matey. Yours Andy

[@tomasviane3844]

I've been struggling with depression for most of my life, but never took any medication for it. What helped me over it was buying a small old house that gave me the mental rest I needed (from the rat-race) and gave me also the opportunity to have something to do and wrap my mind around (finding the cheapest way to fix things). Once I had this, most other things started to fall in its place. It's all about finding a purpose and connection and have a (small) group of friends that you can rely on.

[@sebuteo]

Similar to me/us! Getting our own fixer-upper home has been a life-saver. How to get off the treadmill of the rat-race, tho’? Still haven’t managed that…

[@snap-happy]

Your honesty is refreshing. The caring comments on this post make me hopeful you will never again feel you have no friends. You really are a special person.

[@hoppy2903]

Ive been in a similar place, without going into detail and Prozac made me feel worse. Im still trying to get out of the hole im in and do feel like im getting somewhere. The best thing I did was to talk to friends and tell them EVERYTHING. It really helped. It takes balls to open up because at first you think it will be seen as a sign of weakness, but its the opposite. You are a shining example to many that you/we can beat this and there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You should be immensely proud of where you are now having looked back over those years of darkness and doubt. You now have friends from all corners of the globe. I applaud you Sir Maximus

[@JG-ls4gh]

I have taken two type of antidepressants in my life but I didn't like the effects, the robbed me of me, made me feel empty. Grow yourself some magic mushrooms and microdose. It's the best I've ever felt. I suffer from c-ptsd and depression for the past 25yrs and recently tried microdosing and I've never felt better. I wish you well brother, your not on your own, don't worry! Much love man!

[@Cl-ue7wn]

Just started MD. So far not feeling great... hoping it will come. Trying to wean off ADs at the same time. I dont know anymore if ADs are helping are making me worse.

[@sbmphoenix]

Hi Max, I normally skip over content like this.... in fact I skipped over this one when you posted it...... I find it either cuts to close to home, making me uncomfortable, or it's usually someone who talks about what I perceived to be rubbish. But wow, this video struck a cord in so many good ways. You gave your experience on your own situation and clearly that you feel everyone’s is different...... that's exactly how I see mental health issues should be handled... individually and uniquely. It's the main reason I never dealt ......and still haven't ......with issues correctly. Thank you for your fantastic work.

[@richardhasler6718]

Ah thanks Max, I have also dealt with depression and totally agree with your point that it never goes away but hides somewhere. Recognising if/when you start spiraling back into depression is important so that you can warn others around you, try to change things that might trigger depression and most importantly, I found just being kind to myself and saying it was okay to fall back into depression, rather than fighting and punishing myself for not being 'strong enough' to resist it. I also found one of the very best ways to manage depression was through regular exercise. It won't stop it but it can moderate things and give you some perspective.

[@spinny2010]

Thanks Max. For decades now I have turned to alcohol and substances to self medicate. Which is completely unhelpful obviously; but I always refused to go on anti depressants. Over the last four years the booze has really got on top. Except I am now 6 days in sober but with the use of psilocybin mushrooms that I am picking myself. Taking small amounts every day; not enough to trip on. It is already helping a great deal. I have used psychedelics in the past therapeutically and they did work up to a point. It was my fault to slip back into old ways not the mushrooms. I am determined this time to make it work. There is significant and growing evidence for the efficacy of psilocybin used in treatment for depression, addiction and other mental disorders. Stay well!!!

[@markthecraneman8465]

Thank you for an insight into the world of antidepressants.... it seems men are generally not good at discussing mental health problems but hopefully you have ignited a spark with your frank discussion that will encourage that someone who needs help to reach out for it. I am so glad you are in a good place right now Max.

[@GrandadBaz]

That's one hell of a powerful story Max! My sister suffers with depression at times and has done for over 30 years I think brought on through a bully of a husband treating her badly. My youngest daughter is now a Counseller and must be pretty good judging by the number of people asking to be referred to her, Thanks for sharing and having the courage to open up this part of your life to strangers. Keep on smiling mate.

[@lorraine1651]

I wish more people would speak out publicly in this way. Thank you so much for making this.

[@thehighlandphotogallery3168]

A wise, generous and courageous man. The world is a better place with people like you in it.

[@InfernalPasquale]

Wow, I also suffered from a large tumour (brain), at 17, and have only in the last couple of years started to recognise and address the resultant trauma, and understand that it never was solely depression (I'm 32 now). Big love my man

[@cubleycat]

Where my doctors let me down was not listening to me over the decades when I told them sometimes I am so excited and very very happy, literally too happy and then I would crash and hit rock bottom and this became such a problem that I ended up literally screaming at the GP that I needed more intensive help and eventually I got to see a psychiatrist and he immediately recognised I am bipolar so the antidepressants were making things worse without a mood stabiliser. The past couple of years have been so incredibly difficult but now with the right sort of meds I am more able to cope with life. Thankyou for sharing your story on youtube, it will help so many people, its helped a close friend of mine understand it better.

[@robjworkshop5692]

22:05 'Sitting staring into the corner not doing anything...' Yep, can relate so well to that. It's something so few people can understand who haven't experienced it. After nearly 2 years, I'm starting to find some motivation again, but that 'window' is so small, and you have to find something to keep it propped open!

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Very well said.👍

[@RamonaMcKean]

Maximus Ironthumper, thank you for your forthrightness and humility. So many of our doctors haven't a clue. We need to educate them. And we need to raise awareness in society as too many of us suffer in silence.

[@pauljenkins2501]

Oh, Max what a life you have had to contend with. I wish I could have seen this video before my daughter went onto anti depressants. I guess I just expected that, as soon as she started taking them, she would immediately be " better". Of course, that was not the case but she got through that difficult initial period and still takes them, which works successfully for her long term. I feel that your video should be compulsory viewing to all health care professionals involved with prescribing these drugs. They could learn a lot from your case study! It's great to hear that you are doing ok now. Thank you for being brave enough to post your story, and for telling it the way you did, unscripted and from the heart. Sending you a virtual hug, because hugs are good!

[@Rapanior]

This touched me in a good way...unlike when Rolf Harris touched me, which wasn't good at all. All jokes aside, you're a beacon of hope for others like myself who struggle with depression. I also tried to take my life when I was younger on two occasions, but I never got help because I always wanted to join the military for some strange reason, as I knew it would stabilise me with the routine that life provides, if I got diagnosed with depression & anxiety before joining...well I wouldn't have been able to join. I thought I overcome depression naturally at the age of 22 ( I was at rockbottom, homeless, no family support, there was no other way than up), so I joined the military when I was 23...I had about 5 years of feeling normal (actually content), then It took over again & SSRI's haven't worked for the last 3 years, so it's really insightful for me to hear your experiences with them & how you have coped/progressed with this condition. Your content whether you are explaining how to live off grid or restoring a land rover brings me 20 minutes of piece...You explain & articulate subjects really well, however what really draws me to your content, is that I see a really good person inside you. So keep it up mate!

[@Carby.J]

Thankfully Paxil is quite difficult to have a fatal overdose on. Glad you are still with us brother. You're doing gods work!

[@Danny-Cooke]

i really appreciate this video. Im 40. on anti D's for 5 years now. previously depressed and having issues for 20+ years. I've thought for years i'm Bi Polar and every doctor (6 of them during my life) has said no, your symptoms are not extreme enough. This year a new doctor said you know what, im going to refer you to a psychiatrist who promptly diagnoses me with Clyclothemia (or as they call it in the US... "Bi Polar Light"). A milder form of Bi Polar (Stephen Fry has it too). So i too have experienced that moment when a doctor actually cares enough not to just dismiss you with pills.

[@Mark-xl8gg]

As someone who has taken antidepressants, for the best part of thirty years, Max I appreciate you putting this out , life is still hard , and I also made attempts at suicide, but life feels better now, I’m always cognizant that depression can take control again , but as you say having a supportive GP is the key.

[@MontegaB]

Great video, Max. One of the most painful parts of struggling with mental health has been the need for me to manage my own care due to issues with the health system that you've described. It's so difficult maintaining the awareness to stay on top of it and push providers to give you the care you need and make adjustments. It's too much at times and I don't know how people with more severe issues than mine could ever hope to get better. It's a terrible thing.

[@danieljuggins3439]

Thank you for sharing Max. The hardest part I found was admitting that I have problems they'll never be fixed I just learn to control, I've become an expert at masking.

[@MACLADILLY]

I've watched all of your KZbin videos over the last few years and I've always thoroughly enjoyed your projects, your massive knowledge and your calm succinct explainations. You leave quiet spaces between what you say which is a breath of fresh air on KZbin. I'm now living off grid in Ireland, so your content has been really useful to me. Thankyou for your openness and honesty in this video, it is inspirational.

[@adaffodil6695]

Thank you so much for this. Too few men are open about their mental health (including me).

[@garyhardman8369]

Thank you so much for that Max. My Wife and I were both made redundant in June of this year. Being in our early sixties and not having degree level education, we are finding it impossible to find jobs in the industry we have many years experience in. I thought that I was suffering from depression and was on the verge of asking my GP for the magic pills... However, after watching your video, I realise that I am just reacting to a situation and the medication would not be suitable, probably even counter-intuitive!

[@bordersw1239]

Good luck to you Gary, don’t be afraid to try something completely different for a job, I’ve surprised myself in the last couple of years!

[@mktrollop1093]

I wouldn't necessarily rule out medication, it can be very helpful to get you out of a rut, and suits some people better than other. Definitely dont be afraid of councelling or psychotherapy either.

[@ragebait988]

An hour daily walk will do more for you than anything the doctor can give you.

[@mktrollop1093]

@@ragebait988 thats very reductive and simplistic. If you are in the throws of a mental health crisis, simply leaving the house can be a huge hurdle.

[@28thAttempt]

Hey Max, this video really felt meaningful. As a young lad at 26 years of age I think up to this point I have been lucky when it comes to health and mental health. But that's not the norm. Among my peers there are many that are struggling. Let it be dealing with stress and anxiety at university/job, identity crisis, being happy with themselves or dealing with addiction. There a many things that can throw you of and can make life a chore. Sharing your insights and your experience can really safe someone. And you going the extra mile and finding the courage to do so is really a sign of what kind of a man you are. Inspiring. Cheers from Hamburg Germany.

[@kevinisaac9139]

I think Max you were very brave to talk so frankly about your life and am really glad you are now ok

[@truthreporter1709]

A brave, frank and honest account - from someone who can be trusted to talk straight. This is a triumph.

[@irnbriar2983]

Intelligent insight, agreed 100%. Share much of your experience, although I never did get on with anti depressant medication exactly because I couldn't tolerate the side effects. The real change for me relied on a situational improvement. Depression is never really gone completely. For me, at least. I admire how you are living your life and I think that is probably the key element in your remission. All best wishes. Thank you.

[@karenkendall5315]

From a retired mental health nurse, thank you for posting such an informative and honest video. I was shocked that your initial experience was to be given a six weeks prescription and not reviewed at all! Disgraceful practice from said gp. So many important points are made, especially the fact that medication and counselling work well alongside each other. I wish you good health

[@stevea8547]

Max I absolutely applaud this open and revealing breakdown of your experiences, I have battled with depression sporadically for the last 20 years without drugs and I am determined to keep it that way. I hope your message reaches far and wide and people learn from your experiences. Youre an awesome fella, keep up the good work my friend.

[@Real_Deal_67]

Hi Max, my first time messaging you. Well done on this post. Very open and honest. Mint. I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel - I've been a paramedic for 30 years and my dream would be to live as you do! Fortunately, I do still live in my home County of Cornwall and my child-hood was outdoors, practical, fixing my field bike, air rifles, keeping chickens and working on a local farm doing all the things like tractors and animal husbandry and fencing etc etc. Some long time ago I realised that I am at my happiest when tinkering in my workshop - rebuilding motorbikes or doing some involved DIY and it is my stress relief as my brain is fully focused on those tasks. I have nearly all of John Seymours books and I bet some same books as on your shelf!! Love your posts - find it relaxing and also inspiring to try new things like welding and make some changes and go back to basics. Might even get a Landrover in the future! Keep it up mate. 😉🍺🍺

[@jiplix]

Max your a one of a kind, I think that took courage. I have even more respect for my favourite iron thumping youtuber than I did an hour ago. More power to you and may your progress know no boundaries.

[@akwalek]

Respect to you for posting this Maximus.

[@Crowtherstephen79]

I had so much respect for you prior to this, now I’ve even more respect for you, your life and what you have and continue to achieve, what a story. Thank you for sharing Max, you are an inspiration on so many levels

[@salan3]

As an aside form my last comment, it needs more men to talk about this and things like it. Hats of to you sir for doing so! The number of times in my past I have cried myself (silently) to sleep because of the situation. 'Men don't show emotions. Men don't cry. 'Laugh it off' get on with things. The phrase that I ended up saying every day was' Oh well never mind'. and died a little inside.

[@bordersw1239]

As someone who’s watched various members of my close family deal with mental health problems, medication is certainly a rollercoaster. One of my children has had issues most of life, had years of counselling as a child which really helped but is still on setraline. She’s training to be a paramedic, just had her first death, I don’t think she would have been able to do this without all the work she has put in to help herself, definitely recognising triggers and when you are starting to get ill is key. Thanks Maximus!

[@Secondgen392hemi]

I've been on somewhat of the same journey and today was day I thought about the end and I turned on KZbin and your video was on. You filled heart with so much joy with your journey. Thank you sir

[@DavidMartin-ym2te]

I admired you already but even more so now. I was offered anti depressants when my life took poorly and listening to you makes me relieved I turned them down. It was a matter of cause and effect for me. When the period of stress was over the panic attacks ceased. I'm so impressed with your intelligent and honest reporting on mental healthcare. Thank you.

[@dewexdewex]

Having lived intermittently with someone who has severe depression for 25 years, I'm obviously aware of their problem and have my own understanding but after listening to you speak on the subject from your own experience, I can say that my understanding about my situation has grown. Many thanks.

[@mikecronin6265]

Respect sir. As you mentioned "one has to live, or move foward." Not easy for some people without question, but is the absolute key to getting better. No matter how bad you may feel, getting out and attempting to be normal is so important to getting healthy important. Isolation is the very worse thing one can do. Certainly brought me to my knees. Good luck to all those fighting this horrible illness, and again respect for the video and brutal honesty mate.

[@bennybenboy111]

Thanks for sharing that with us Max. I think that the information you broadcast is very useful for anyone taking anti D's or living with someone taking them.

[@mceajc]

Listening to this, and reading the comments - humans need to be more open about their experiences. Thanks for opening up the conversation, and letting others learn from them.

[@lazylad8544]

What an absolute brilliant, brave, honest, open account of periods in your life. Which I think 95% of young men go through some type of mental health problem. Thank you max for shooting this video and giving people an insight into your life. It just goes to show KZbin is not only here for the funny and educational videos on how to rebuild a land rover. Thanks a lot and can't wait for more of the rebuild videos 👍👍👍👍. If your struggling or need to talk to someone please ring the samaritans they are open 7 days a week 24 hours a day.

[@stephenbird9714]

What a big man, well done to you for publishing this video. Your best video ever.

[@WiltshireMan]

Thanks for the candid video Max you illucidated that well. Thankfully I have never had to take any antidepressents and like you I have also been unwell in the past, my illness was a type of brain tumour (Acoustic neuroma, surgery removed most of it) but I have also had a rough ride post surgery, up's and downs and life becoming a real trudge. Even these days I have off days but generally I get along OK Cycling, fresh air and exercise has been a real benefit for me. Sandy

[@snakewomangirl]

Thanks for sharing Max, I had a similar experience with a 20 minute consultation with a psychiatrist, as did my daughter. My mother had also been prescribed heavy anti psychotic drugs years ago after a trauma, I watched her life being ruined over the next 30 years. Neither I nor my daughter have taken any medication, at times, things get bad but I have had 10 years of excellent therapy and now understand why I feel they way I do and, more importantly, strategies to keep myself safe. My daughter also does the same. Long term psychotherapy has kept me meds and hospital admission free. Life is shit sometimes and we all go through trauma, it’s part of being human, we need time to process, make sense of and recover from trauma and to lead lives that are aligned with our soul and not the capitalist machine. I’m thankful to my numerous “breakdowns”, I call them “breakthroughs”, they happen when I stop listening to my inner selves and what they need. At 60 I’m finally getting it. Kindness to self/selves and others is the way forward. Let’s all be supportive.

[@_n_l_]

I had really good results with magic mushrooms personally. Information on that is plentiful and there are a lot of studies going on lately. Loved the video.

[@benstaniforth2591]

This is such a beautiful video. One of, if not, the best discussions on depression and SSRIs I've seen.

[@spungletrumpet]

Thanks for sharing this. I know we've discussed this subject quite a bit, but it's vitally important that people feel comfortable talking about their mental health, and this is exactly the sort of video that could really help someone.

[@nnglnd]

ive watched you rebuild a land over , ive watched you rebuild a zil with an organ on the back , ive watched you explain your off grid set up and all the way through you went through this too . i respect what you have done

[@timbytheriver]

Nothing beats sharing the true wisdom of the lived experience. Thank you plenty for sharing this life-saving information. Be well!

[@kolesemeniuk955]

Maximus, you likely wont see this but I just wanna say how thankful I am for you making this video. Im a 24 years old young man, extremely similar journey so far, and I just broke down realising im not the only one, and there is hope. I took deslafaxine before, felt like a different person came off of it, and 2 years later im a wreck, prescribed it again, even though i took it before and felt great, im hesisant to take it again? I have seen so many doctors, and this video made alot make sense, and helped me understand what this pill is really doing. Thank you Maximus, you are my hope, if you can do it again so can I.

[@FenellaBeach]

Didn’t think I could respect you more than I already did, but thank you for talking about this in such an informative and unaffected manner, and in one take - so much hard earned wisdom here. Many of your followers will get it, others thankfully won’t - I get it.

[@shanemccauley8354]

Thank you for bringing up the subject. I have someone I love that struggles and I’ve said at times he is over medicated, but I’m no dr and don’t deal with depression so to have a person open up on what helped them is a huge gift. Thanks again

[@growingknowledge]

Thanks Max, a very important message, hard learnt and bravely spoken. My own experiences of depression, medication (both self medication and prescribed) and counselling really parallel with those you shared. I'm so pleased to hear you focus on the importance of both medication to enable a state where counselling can be achieved and counselling to heal and enable "normal functional life" to become possible in the long term. I so pleased you are doing well now and know to reach out if you fall. One last thing - I tried many kinds of counselling and found the only thing that worked for me with PTSD and trauma was something called EMDR - sounded like quackery but with nothing left to loose I can report it changed my life almost overnight. Be well and all the best to you and yours.

[@anthonydilele7808]

I’m also starting emdr next week for a trauma I had when I was young your comment gives me hope take care.

[@PDLiggett]

Great video and message! I am a psychologist in the States and a Series III owner who has learned (learnt in the U.K., eh?) so much from your rebuild videos. And, now learning you have much to teach on the experience you've had with healthcare for people with behavioral health conditions is a real gift. Thank you for your vulnerability and your wisdom...both as a human and as a Land Rover enthusiast. ~Cheer, Mate! ...Pete

[@troyboy4345]

You are a good man, don't forget that, hold onto your good self and just mix with people that you feel good with ..... never doubt your gut feeling and laugh as much as you can, keep life simple.

[@benstutley2904]

Thanks Max! I did get a prescription for 'Seroxat' 10 years ago, took two days worth, had heart palpitations, & never took another pill. Great to see you back on YT dude, thanks! :)

[@gabrielasova4178]

Massive respect to you! I've been working in the "mental health" related services and I think you have experienced the worst and the best there is in the current system. I was shocked myself, when I called my GP after a complete burn out (covid) at work and she offered me SSRI over the phone after about 5 min conversation. I told her straight away I didn't need medication but counselling and a change of scenery. And I did it only because I'm educated on the matter and have extensive experience with people who were prescribed drugs without any further help. I can't even imagine how difficult this it for people who find themselves in this situation without any prior knowledge or appropriate support. We really need to hear more stories like yours. And again congratulations for getting through all of this and take care ❤️

[@JPinFuerteventura]

Max, it is good of you to share such a personal story to help others. Oddly I was thinking that I have never really felt depressed in my life except that I am still very down because I miss my dog that I had to have put to sleep a year ago last week. And just as I thought that you talked about being upset at losing your dog and that is grief not depression. Very true. Take care mate.

[@sarto7bellys]

I would like to thank you for this post Max, it takes a lot of guts to admit and talk about this. Many of us men don't like to admit we have problems, thankfully I don't fall into this bracket. I suffered a bit a few years ago, I knew something wasn't right and went to see my GP who listened and got me sorted without any drugs and I've never looked back, half the battle is having a GP who listens and not starts writing a prescription as soon as you open the door.

[@benhammersley2430]

Max you are an inspiration for speaking out as honestly as you have! Sorry that you didn't have the support group when you needed it. you do now!!!!!!!!!

[@66moonraker]

That took courage, a ton of emotional energy and a deep fdesire to help others. Thank you. Modern 'Health Care' is the treatment of symptoms and not causes. This being attempted with allopathic chemical preparations that grow the profits of the pharmaceutical industry and often do nothing for the patient other than add unwanted side effects to their challenges. Your caring doctor that had 'old fashioned' ways ie. spending time with the patient was a real bonus.

[@KeiteiVentures]

Thank you for sharing Max, mental health is not talked about enough and isn't an easy topic to discuss. Reading through the comments below really shows how much it affects us in one way or another. I'm glad that you decided to make and share this video after thinking about it for many years - think I learnt more from this than the online courses we have to do at work. Am happy that you're keeping well :)

[@jerva245]

We are all human and all in this life together. Our minds are our keenest tool but sometimes our chemistry and experiences overwhelm us. You're a brave man. My hat's off to you. We all think the world of you and the knowledge you share!

[@lookcreations]

Much respect to you Max. It’s a hard thing to do, open up warts n all. Our culture isn’t the best for supporting mental health especially in young men let alone our age. Here’s hoping you ride the next hump for a good few decades. All the best Mat.

[@novacacciotti6217]

Thank you for this, I found it very encouraging. I recently went back on my SSRI after almost 5 years and a lot of struggling, and feel a lot better.

[@Cameronstone45]

God bless you sir. So glad you're still with us today

[@bobbod8069]

There are not many blokes that have a courage to talk about such things. Thanks, it gives a great insight to antidepressants.

[@limekilnfarm9657]

Thank you Max, you have a very clear understanding of managing your own mental health and that’s very positive! Sharing your own experiences here is very brave and I’m sure it will help others. I think GP’s would love to do more but the system just doesn’t cope. The window you describe as you enter irrational episodes is spot on.that should be the mental health services key chance to help. Unfortunately for therapy’s other than drugs you have to be in “Crisis” in our current system to get any further help. I Suffer with Anxiety. (First time I’ve ever written that down) you should know nothing helps me more than an ironthumper video. Anything from off grid living through to rebuilding a Landrover in your world (I’ve always hated them in real life 😂) ! Another thing that shouldn’t be taken for granted is a good restful nights sleep. My late Mum who struggled most days with mental health and used all the NHS services and therapy’s from medication, councillors, long hospital stays with amazing mental health nurses and staff even Electric shock therapy. Best days were always those that followed a restful nights sleep! Stay safe and Well Max and thanks again for sharing.

[@Kris28.]

Thank you for sharing your own views. In about 2-3 days i will tell my mother that i am depressed while out on a walk. I have learned that this first step of telling someone close to you is crucial. I am just 20 years old and there is alot of life ahead of me. I am not self diagnosing myself with depression, i simply have held all symptoms for a long time now, they unfortunately get worse overtime. It will take me alot of courage to say everything on my mind but im sure it will make me feel much better. Cheers to your cure of depression. I am positive that i will be another person that gets to live normally in the near future.

[@susanbell2771]

Well done, like many here I heard so many similar experiences (25 years for me on and off various drugs ). This will help so many people.

[@moonshinewilly01]

Holy shit Max, I was already so impressed with what you achieve with your days but add to that the mental health battles you have fought and won, and then being so public about all that. I take my hat off to you Sir. Thank you, and like you said, there is always hope.

[@steamwally]

Thanks Max, that was very interesting and insightful. At times my own storm cloud has followed me relentlessly, so it's somehow reassuring to hear someone else's story. Glad you are doing well now, pleased to be able to say the same.

[@ct420bandit3]

I am sure this was difficult for you to discuss. THANK YOU! I have struggled with depression and have recently been diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder. For the first time in my life, I am trying to fix it. I will be starting therapy with a therapist and have been prescribed a SSRI. I am still debating on taking the SSRIs. A challenge being a man and having depression and anxiety is feeling like you are weak and just need to man up and carry on. I feel like I am broken or a failure at times. Unfortunately, I think this is due to stigmas in society, and, that as men, we do not talk about this stuff. Thank you for posting and sharing. You have given me hope and comfort knowing that even a "manly man" can experience these challenges and get through them. Thank you and I hope you can continue to be well!

[@FontedaPipaPortugueseFarmLife]

Thanks for talking out and sharing this Max, not easy to talk about and can see we have been down similar roads and thankfully we took the right turn at those crossroads., so glad you did as i have always enjoyed your videos. A hug and best wishes for the future going where you want it to.

[@stu2290]

Took alot of guts to do a video on a tough subject which was based on your personal life long battle with depression. I also have suffered with this battle in the past and you hit the nail on the head when you said it's something that will always be there in the background. I found having some routine and projects/goals have helped my mind focus on the future and what life still has to give. Thanks for sharing Max, will help so many people I'm sure.

[@Nachos_with_a_slice_of_lime]

You’re very courageous for sharing your story. Thank you.

[@rdflo6739]

Thank you for that personal story. As someone who's been to that edge and come back, been on prescribed antidepressants, I wholeheartedly agree with you. The level on information given is way too little, I came off venlaxafine without having a clue what would hit me, be and it did. I also think that depression is never really far off, but it's part of me and the counter side of the coin is probably what brings joy to my life. I think this because the medication brings a flattening that makes life easier to do but also has less of what gives you direction and purpose. Thanks for this and all the other brilliant content you make!

[@nicksymons635]

Thanks for this upload. Just thought i'd throw in something that worked for me a few years back. I bought a kite during a period of depression. Sounds bonkers, but it was fun, and never failed to bring me into the moment and not over think things too much. It forces you to get out the house and get some fresh air, plus it makes you look up, and appreciate the sky above regardless of the weather. Interesingly for me at least, symbolically the variable opportunity to fly it (dependent on a good windy day) kind of emulated what moods are like. It made me realise there would always be ups and downs, and not to try to strive or be pushed around by either. Anyway, for anyone that's going through a gloomy patch...give it a whirl. ; )

[@rockhouserenovation2264]

Max, no words for what this kind of honesty does to advance the mental health agenda. Thank you for taking the time to.make this video and post it. It really brings home that everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about, and to be kind. Thanks max

[@moleole99]

Thank you. A most thought provoking video. I have been through an almost identical cycle of treatment and improvement, it reassuring to know that its not just me. Thanks and take care.

[@Rickshaw_Bohammer]

Maximus, just stumbled on this video as I’m researching psychological treatments for extreme paranoia/depression. This has been helpful as my wife has been going through it and SSRIs are new for her. I’m hopeful to at she will pull through as many others have. Thank you

[@sueholness3486]

That was such a good explanation. I'm sure many people will find a great deal of comfort and hope from your story x

[@Themrjakecollins]

You're one of two people I aspire to be like. You're the wealthiest man I know I've said it before. I applaud you Max! Stay strong and be well. To anyone reading this remember you are amazing, never give in!!!

[@dodgygeezah4707]

Well done Max, bravely said. As a mental health professional for over 30 years I think that Drs are too quick to prescribe anti depressants and also that many people are too quick to request them. People overlook that their difficult life circumstances can be underpinned by deeper-seated issues and no antidepressant will deal with these. They can as you say, aid functioning and can help kick-start your mood but I think that often counselling is the key to helping people understand themselves, manage their problems and gain perspective that would otherwise be lost. I think counselling should always be offered alongside medication. There's plenty of research out there that shows better results if you have both. That's my two pennyworth........

[@limekilnfarm9657]

I’d love to know what part of the uk you have worked as a mental health professional if you are in uk? In the south east of England and I assumed it’s the same all over GP appointments are hard to get, short and far too rushed to even scratch the surface of a patients problem. If you are lucky enough to be referred to a councillor or a member of the mental health team you are already talking about being discharged before even getting close to a diagnosis. GP’s are caring and mainly want to help but they are over subscribed. A prescription is really there only option to help fast. The mental health service is only accessible to those in Crisis. So sad as like Max says you really need to act at the point of feeling irrational. The window he describes is very accurate. That’s when it would be great to access the team. Gp’s sadly get a lot of stick but they really stand no chance in our system of delivering half the help they’d like. Thinking tonight of everyone who’s suffering!

[@ukpete2892]

Had a very similar experience, It took me 6 years to get to a balanced place where I was comfortable with who I am, thanks for sharing your experience, all the best fella i look forward to seeing more videos from you

[@sarahkirk9181]

The world is most definitely NOT better off without you! ❤