My First 8-String Guitar Has a CRAZY Story

[@musicwithemile]

You are doing it wrong, you’re only supposed to be playing the lowest string bro

[@markzoldyck]

Chug chug chug chug chug

[@sethkaicer319]

You should design a one string guitar​@@markzoldyck

[@masterdrummer4720]

With a chuggy sound and rythm

[@joermnyc]

Rob Scallon: DJENT!

[@Leoguitar2009]

With djent there is way too much strings on guitar and bass that both guitarists are bassists and the bassist is the lead guitarist

[@JJ-mp7rg]

Tune the 8th string down a whole step. It’ll put you in a drop tuning and that 8th string will now be an octave below the 6th string, which is tuned to e.

[@TheDeadmandillon]

Ahh yes! A tuning that Tosin Abasi and I believe Javier Rejas(?) use. Ideal suggestion.

[@coryjackson8409]

@@TheDeadmandillonAllegaeon use this tuning for their 8s as well. Drop E is pretty practical considering a lot of metal guys solo in the key of E minor, or a variation of that. So it makes sense as an easy way to fly around on an 8 string.

[@tinystar3010]

Seems like a quality product and absolutely a stand-up guy. He did right by doing his customer orders first before pandering to the youtuber handout list. That action alone makes me want to look into one of these. He has his priorities in order for a quality business model.

[@badstrokeguitars]

Thank you very much for the positive words. Tyler's guitar was already finished about 3.5 years ago and it was supposed to be used to support the campaign. It was more important to solve, despite the huge problem that arose, how to make and deliver their guitar to all the people who ordered it. Actually, there are still a few people left, but we have everything sorted out and we are nearing the end. Therefore, the guitar could already be sent to Tyler. Once again, thank you very much, Ondřej.

[@tinystar3010]

You're absolutely welcome. Nowadays it's rarer to see people hold to good morals and do right by others. Seeing your apology to him was very heartwarming! I've already been browsing your site and as a Telecaster player, I'm actually intrigued by making one as a 7 string since that's an option you have. Hoping for greater things for your business, keep it up!

[@Optimoe89]

„Nearing the end“ is what we „few left“ are hearing since 2021. I mean, the guitars are obviously great. The production time and especially customer service / communication is the worst I have ever discovered. The pure fact, that I as a customer who has payed money for an instrument 3,5 years ago, needs to wait months (!) for my email to be answered while a reaction to a KZbin video happens like instantly, is absolutely wild.

[@xdont5673]

@@Optimoe89 didnt you read the whole text, he literally explains why he was able to deliver the guitar to Tyler

[@Optimoe89]

@@xdont5673 I did. My text is not about Tyler getting his guitar. I don’t care about that to much. It is more about the whole situation as a customer (which I am). Are you involved in the whole situation?

[@dirge808]

Proof 8 strings aren't just for "djent". I hate that most people automatically assume that

[@ruffs4541]

Rob Scallon is the perfect exemple of that

[@ericwinterspruce0110]

That F# tuning is considered "standard" for an 8-string (being called F# standard), and you can also drop-tune the low 8th string (drop E). I believe Meshuggah only uses F standard (1/2 step down on all 8 strings) and drop Eb (F standard drop-tuned).

[@DCJayhawk57]

You're right about Meshuggah, they mostly use 1/2 step down I like drop Eb myself. It's also cool to do a kind of double drop D with DADADGBE.

[@midomidomid]

4:37 Good man Tyler even showing the tuning for the song in the middle of the song

[@michaelshelton8802]

Even though most don't use an 8 this way, it's nice to see someone use it properly....you know actually making music and not just bashing a rhythm on the top... and awesome music as well!!!❤❤

[@kilocharlie1100]

Guys at Badstroke literally creaming their pants right now. Couldn't get a better endorsement/sound demo

[@xtbirdboxtx2039]

Heck Yeah, Man! That was the best 8 string demo I've seen in a long time. That guitar looks AWESOME. Playing the 8 string is the most fun I have had on guitar in so long. Welcome to the 8 string Boyees

[@JimmyFeelsIt]

This has to be one of my favourite "demo"-songs in a long time! It was exactly what I expected to come out of you playing an 8 string. Dark, melodic and heavy but not metal. Really awesome. The pickups sound amazing too! Kinda makes me want a badstroke guitar!

[@piotrgoacki9070]

I don't know it is pretty metal for me, but for me metal does not always has only distortion on.

[@aegistechreviews7410]

@@piotrgoacki9070 its mostly edge of breakup tone so I wouldn't consider it too metal, just rock on an 8 string.

[@sirspongadoodle]

Pickups dont alter distorted tone.

[@JimmyFeelsIt]

​@@sirspongadoodle Wdym? The pickups always influence the tone and some have a crunchy warmth even without extra distortion. Or do you just mean that there are no pickups that automatically cause distortion?

[@sirspongadoodle]

@@JimmyFeelsIt watch glenn frickers video on this, it dismantles any and all myths about tonewood and pickups…

[@ejorbe]

I am so happy that you didn’t play it “traditionally” that was an awesome song! Please make that available to purchase. Yes, I said purchase because I want to have it, haha not just rent it!

[@Sinkovc3]

that song that you played was amazing

[@gabri43375]

you're so good at guitarying, i love that rob scallon approach to 8st, IT'S NOT ONLY FOR THE DJENT, amazing

[@AygisMusic]

I’m just excited that you’re using it in your own way. I feel like the instrument really shines when using all the strings like you have, otherwise, a baritone is better for just using the low register.

[@Loganaman]

First guitar that I bought for myself was an 8 string Strandberg, and the learning curve from 6 to 8 strings was pretty steep, but I stuck with it and learned a few songs/ riffs and since, it has become my absolute favorite guitar, where I can get as heavy as DOOM riffs with slight down tuning, and beautiful melodic leads, 8 strings are my favorite guitar right now and I stand by that, after owning everything from 6-8.

[@leifhoffman6533]

Beautiful piece of 8 string machinery. Love the color and the shape. I especially love how he uses the blend of color and natural wood. The pick guard is "Sick". It took him a while to get it to you but after 4 years it was definitely worth it. Amazing song you pulled out of your inter 8 string self.

[@Christian.Means.]

Sickkkkkk dude... Welcome to the 8 string family big dawg. Just got my first 8 a year ago. Love it. 🔥

[@cameronneal4]

Dude, I have considered getting this exact guitar before. It's one of the coolest I've ever seen!

[@sherifffgreggg]

HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS, I don’t view 7s 8s or 9s as metal guitars, they’re just guitars with bass strings and you can really experiment with these guitars and that’s what I absolutely love about them✨ Steve Vai uses a 7 and John Petrucci uses 7s and 8s and I love them so much they’re a learning curve but they’re so much fun!

[@alexmikhael5061]

that's kinda what I was thinkn... usin the extra set extra strings as the OTHER INSTRUMENT you no longer need to changeover to when ya gettin low and grumbly, or high and eeeeek'y (pinky stuff way in on the lil strings hehe) less changeover time equals more time actcually beeing PRODUCTIVE :) as he said ''' gettin da muzik outta da head ''' ;) LOVE JOY COMPASSION

[@sherifffgreggg]

@@alexmikhael5061 RIGHT YESS✨👍🏼🤘🏼

[@ripit.3457]

I often think of all the creative ways I can use my 8 string for experiments and such and say “wow! This guitar is cable of SO MUCH COOL SHIT!” and then spend the 2 hours banging on the lowest string like a gorilla and it makes me happy because “OOOOH OOH OOOOH LOW NOTE HEHEHEEH” n such.

[@replicated]

This is your best song for a video yet. I'd listen to this again.

[@arceneaux777]

I was able to use an 8 string on a project, had never even looked at one before that. Loved what it did. The thing you are doing, reminds me of Fripp stuff....very cool.

[@angeldelvax7219]

Very nice !!! Beautiful design, LOVE the colors, and the wood pickguard really completes it! Loved the music you made too ;)

[@_GC_2006]

If I eat my six string Guitar, will it become an "Ate" string?

[@ivante.]

yes, but i don't think u would be able to play it

[@HarlanHarvey76]

Nope, it goes from a six string to a shit string..... Sorry, i couldn't help myself 🫣😔

[@diagonaltripod3713]

I'm not sure, why don't you try it and report back to us the result.

[@jpmosher6508]

And you would be able to play the "Brown Note!"

[@FearBerzerk]

Perfect dad joke 😂

[@TheOlivermz]

Well done, it's not that often that all strings of an 8 strings guitar are used!

[@jacobcox8624]

Just like some people with six strings 😊

[@MrSFblack]

It's good to see an 8 string used to make actual music instead of just chugging away at the lowest string. If you want more 8 string bands to listen to rather than the usual suspects, I suggest you check out music from Little Tybee, Deftones, and Beyond Creation. I would even suggest listening to some of Uli Jon Roth's 8 string flamenco work as well just to get an idea for everything that's possible with an 8 string guitar. I look forward to hearing what else you can come up with. Keep on rocking 🤘🏿

[@bestboy897]

that looks awesome love the natural wood look of the pickguard

[@aidandix7296]

Always love seeing something do the 8 string justice! it's so often brushed aside and not treated seriously, but this shows the type of cool stuff that can come out of giving it the time of day🤘🤘

[@eemelimakela9362]

I fucking loved the demo song dude, it sounded to my ear a lot like Ghost. It had the same kind of mysterious atmosphere that they have in some of their songs

[@GuitarAscendancy]

duude gotta get an 8 string now. That track you made sounded UNBELEIVABLE!! Soooo SICKKKKK

[@hellacious_]

Dude that song is actually sick. I love how you used the extra range in a different way than most. Excellent work!

[@LightsOfSkadi]

Happy you got yours. I´m still waiting for mine. Great song and playing!

[@grandamdrvr13]

I ordered a bass from BadStroke and supposed to get it in November. Super excited. Overall Design and craftsman ship looks amazing.

[@SeekingJoshua]

The vast majority of people who ordered a guitar from them have not received their instruments or received literally ANY communication in a considerable amount of time. Not a single deadline they’ve set has been met for 3+ years. This video makes it sound like they’ve gotten other people’s orders out and are now moving forward, but I assure you that’s not the case. Just giving you a fair warning. I hope it gets to you in a timely manner and you don’t experience any issues. I hope these instruments live up to the wait.

[@grandamdrvr13]

@@SeekingJoshua I was actually given a chart from Ondrej that explained the process and where I am at in their line of customers they have right now. They have been very responsive. Also, I fully understand this is a custom instrument, and can sometimes take longer to finish. If it has excellent quality and not your cookie cutter instrument... I can wait a bit longer. my buddy actually ordered a guitar from another boutique guitar maker, and his actually rook 4-5 months longer than he was originally told. So I am aware it happens, but thanks for the heads-up.

[@jamesreece9502]

This is now my favorite video from you.

[@didtoknan8128]

Main tunings are F# Standard (the one you use), Drop E (just drop the low F# to E) and EAEADGBE. Bands: Deftones and Sleep Token.

[@matthewwilson9749]

Crazy sustain at the end. Fantastic

[@__belial__]

I’m glad that you used the guitars string in entirety. Not the first 2 or the last 6. Thanks for bringing us 8 stringers to the forefront

[@reNINTENDO]

Phenomenal song. Super cool looking guitar, too. I hope their business does well; they clearly make good stuff.

[@JuxtaCrucem]

Lovely riff and composition. Guitar looks very well made.

[@jeffmangiapane354]

Awesome riff there brother. Exploit those octaves! Nice how new gear sometimes leads to new ideas and new music.

[@MittensOnly]

That song fucking slayed, very impressed with what you were able to come up with considering that you're not in the "Djent" world Animals as Leaders plays in standard tuning with the 8th dropped to an E. Meshuggah plays mostly half step down. I recommend Beyond Creation for a band that does some fun stuff with their extended range instruments

[@Maggai]

I've been looking at these guitars for quite a while! Very cool to hear this one in action!

[@alexanderdenison2950]

Tyler, your use of language when talking about 8 string music and referring to it as a "tradition" of music brought a smile to my face. A lot of the heavier stuff using extended range instruments catches so much flack, and its cool to hear somebody who isn't necessarily super embeded in that scene still come from a place of open mindedness and respect. Thats the sign of a musician who wants more than anything to continue learning! Edit: Totally forgot to add my recommendation! Check out Berzerker by the band after the burial, its got a perfect combination of shred/riffage and absolutely stupid down tuned rhythmic madness. Its not necessarily a deep cut but it is pretty old at this point, i think its from around 2008-2010? So while they arent necessarily inventers in the scene, id argue they are some really important innovators.

[@Marcelo_B_159]

amazing improv/song . well used of the 8 strings

[@TrevorMarine]

The man plays an 8 string for the first time and already he's a genius at it. Wow...

[@ripit.3457]

well, yea, it’s a regular guitar played the same way as all of the others lol

[@SamBrockmann]

This is win. 🤘🤘8️⃣🎸 I would enjoy it if more 8-string players approached the instrument in this way. As for bands, I recommend the band Animals as Leaders, who also are known to have invented some of the now well known 8-string techniques.

[@troysmithfr]

"Invented" is a stretch depending on which techniques you're referring to, but yes. They are certainly innovative

[@SamBrockmann]

@@troysmithfr , it's not, but I guess you like to argue over the minutiae.

[@troysmithfr]

@@SamBrockmann I mean if you talk about like, thumping, Tosin will tell you that he took it from bass players. Just a fact, bro. Not here to get heated, just saying as it is. I agree with everything else you said though.

[@SamBrockmann]

@@troysmithfr , and yet, there have been probably tens of thousands of guitar players who never went, "WHAT I IF THUMP LIKE A BASS PLAYER?!" This is what I meant about how you're getting caught up in the minutiae.

[@troysmithfr]

@@SamBrockmann Well, there will always be someone who borrows and inspires to much a greater extent. But like I said before, I agree that it is a win.

[@iwonttell4958]

Ah..the 8-string tapping lick at 7:25, sooo Tool. Love it! Nice Tyler! 🙂

[@madeline906]

Well now I want an 8-string, lol The song you wrote with your new 8-string was awesome. Really loved the tones you gathered together with it!

[@naskosokurov1815]

That's the first time I actually enjoy a 8 string song. I might consider buying one. Well done.

[@johanjotun1647]

I was an early adopter of 8 string multi scale loved it from day 1. its faster to go down in leaps whwn you can string hop as opposed to sliding down P4ths or more.

[@thomasinpuertorico9184]

Badstroke should sell pickguards. That one is beautiful.

[@metallover8]

Now I want an 8 string. I love the maple board

[@Knocker420]

I own a Schecter Hellraiser C8 that I've had for a little over a year now. It's a learning curve, to say the least. The tuning I've been messing with lately is essentially Drop E. EAEADGBE Your song was tight, man. Keep shredding!!

[@Splandrocity]

Justin Lowe's (RIP) KZbin personal demo reel on the 8-string is epic and awesome.

[@kristallfagel.73]

that’s such a beautiful guitar, i’m glad that you got your hands on it

[@nicgundy]

Straight up, finally got myself an 8 string off a pawn shop last week

[@user-cz6rd3sl7v]

Nice composition to showcase it! Haha I also thought those jagged “8 hits” were clever 🤘🏻

[@peterkovachevich]

such effortless mastery! love it

[@justinanderson9972]

First off love the look of the guitar second killer playing

[@hanomag251]

What a great song!!! Love the melody!!! Just a perfect song for this type of guitar!!! Love the fact that you did a whole song and not just some bits of playing here and there!!! The guitar looks awesome.

[@terrysbookandbiblereviews]

8-string guitar is awesome and addictive to play!!

[@nathanyay7318]

some other tunings are F standard (all half-step down), drop E/Eb and also double drop B with the F# tuned down to a lower B

[@OddScienceHarry]

Fun thing about extended guitars is that they come with a full 6 string guitar! Also I could recommend tuning the guitar a whole step down it might require a different string gauge but it can be worth it if you don’t want to go that low drop tuning the lowest 2 strings or just the lowest could also be very interesting. Enjoy the low rider ride!

[@BrentAdams]

Cool! I do have a Headless 8 String. I've used it in standard "F#-E" tuning...and a Dropped "E-E" tuning.

[@StormdriverOne]

That's my most favorite Tyler song ever. Sweet guitar too. I don't know what 8 string bands are obvious. All I know is Mattias IA Eklundh and Freak Kitchen are awesome.

[@deadmanwithpitchforkarms8376]

Lovely looking guitar and that was an awesome song

[@JamesRussle365]

That thing sounds amazing

[@norseman61]

Based on the incredible piece of music you wrote with this thing, I’d say you were using it right… whether or not it was how it was MEANT to be used. Nice guitar, and good job!

[@mariolafontaine5853]

Very melodic, beautiful. Eight strings is a step(down?😜) for free mind creativity. Well done man.

[@tlopez51]

Tyler kool riff man. Loved the sound. too.

[@alkaliforever9051]

Wait, you can play the other 7 strings on one of these, you learn something new every day.

[@AtlasThree]

Please please do some Rob Scallon stuff with this! The real the king of the 8 string, try his slap stuff, and his song Anchor

[@LandonDsolos42]

Tyler, are you gonna djent?

[@mohamedelhassen7762]

Buying an 8 string was the best thing ever for me especially since I'm a big Animals as Leaders fan

[@CarlWheezer69]

I feel like this is the way an 8 string was supposed to be played. Good stuff

[@Gary-zq3pz]

I got my 8 string(Schecter Diamond series) because I didn't have one. A whole lotta fun to play.

[@mark.guitar]

What a great looper tool. I'll have to make one...

[@Ahmed_lovessolos]

This guitar looks awesome

[@theshadowknows6969]

Man. Nothing short of kick ass! That was a killer track.

[@justicia8393]

Enjoy 👌🏼

[@Jesperadoo]

New guitar company for me to check out, thanks Tyler! Try out F standard, what Meshuggah mostly play in. I also really like Drop E and Drop D#. Lower than that I usually use the transpose feature on my Neural DSP plugins or a pitch shifter. Happy shredding!

[@briankurilla8474]

Solid work! You must check out Sleep Token. On a side note, I’ve actually been tuning my 7-string to CGCFADD. It’s more of a 6-string approach but the doubled high string produces this extra jangly, 12 string-like vibe.

[@mattkingswood8581]

I am currently writing an album on my 8 string with a tuning of EAEADGBE so it is standard tuning with the two lower strings in EA again allowing me to copy a riff from one EA to the next. The 7th string mixed with the 6th string allows me to play power chords like a drop A tuning too

[@KingDadBod666]

Everyone usually craps on extended range guitars until they actually sit with them for a bit. I use a 9 string guitar regularly. It actually helps with dexterity. Switching back to a 6 string makes it feel easier for some reason.

[@Sjejse]

For small 8 string guitar bands, I can recommend the Copenhagen based boys from Cold Night For Alligators, they are so much more than the typical djent

[@IfSwineFlu]

definitely check out The Dali Thundering Concept. They put all 8 strings through the paces in super creative ways.

[@davidozab2753]

Great song! Especially loved the drones.

[@zedkent4287]

Aw man I ed tune that Bad boy to drop A with an E on the lowest string ! Opens lots of possibilities with octaves on the first 4 strings

[@rubenzall]

Totally BADASS man! I might have to get one myself.

[@DOCTRJ]

Now thats a Funky guitar 🎸🖤

[@blakepennington6539]

Please learn Tim Henson's part of Die on the cross of martyr One of my favorite 8 string songs

[@chrispile3878]

Looks cool, sounds cool.

[@juan666q]

Really enjoyed this, great work!

[@kennethcarlin9629]

Looks and sounds great. I love the maple neck and the wood pickguard

[@quantumzbeatz6851]

Tyler, you should learn *that riff* from animals as leaders “Woven Web”

[@ZeugmaP]

Finally some music made with an 8 string that isn't Prog or Djent. I mean Djent is great but I wish people would use these guitars in other styles. Apart from than Batushka, Deftones and Justin Broadrick it's not that common. Also if you want to play with tunings, you can also go to drop E or open tunings like E B E G# B G# B E

[@Alex051993]

That song is banging!! wow awesome tone.

[@andrewbakers]

Not gonna lie, this song goes pretty hard

[@njmrcrou]

another very commonly used tuning i see ppl use on 8 strings is drop E: E,A,E,A,D,G,B,e rob scallon once uses a modded version of FACGCE which was F,C,F,A,C,G,C,e both sound sick imo

[@lebarak69]

Try double drop EA as in EAEADGBe so you have a standard 6 string and 2 bass strings in EA

[@fjkhamdan]

Cool sound 🤘