The first time I saw a Mormon temple ceremony online I was shocked at how much JS took from freemasonry. Especially the handshakes and the whole "on the square " is incredibly masonic
@micheleh38516 ай бұрын
@4everseekingwisdom690 - The use of various types of handshakes is used extensively in the Old Testament, in case you want to dust off your Bible. Using handshakes as an oath between two parties has been used in all ages when people shake hands to bind their word instead of a written contract. Raising the right arm to the square is used nowadays in court rooms and other civic and political proceedings when people certify to tell the truth or are being sworn into a position. I suppose those must seem incredibly masonic to you as well.
@michaelparks566929 күн бұрын
Masonic is incredibly Early Christian and Jewish Temple rites.
@4everseekingwisdom69029 күн бұрын
@@michaelparks5669 that's wrong on so many levels but an excellent demonstration of the dunning Kruger effect 👏
@4everseekingwisdom69029 күн бұрын
@@michaelparks5669 that's wrong on so many levels but an excellent demonstration of the dunning Kruger effect 👏
@michaelparks566929 күн бұрын
@@4everseekingwisdom690What does Yad Ve Shem mean? What is the Holy Crism mean? What is the Holy Oranz mean? Do Masons practice these? Do Jews and Christians?
@danielcarpenter14897 ай бұрын
When the key points of all these ex-mormons all match up so specifically, it is really hard to take the Nay-Sayers seriously. The old testament temple did not have secret ceremonies in any way like this. I am so glad you were able to get out, and I pray for those who are still on the inside.
@michaelparks566929 күн бұрын
hahaha "the Old Testament temple did not have secret ceremonies like this" you are ignorant NO ONE OUTSIDE OF HEBREW PRIESTS KNEW WHAT THE CEREMONIES WERE LIKE. WHAT DOES YAD VE SHEM MEAN? IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEN MAYBE YOU COULD STOP PRETENDING YOU DO.
@danielcarpenter148929 күн бұрын
@michaelparks5669 capslock doesn't make you more right. And the Temple was established as a permanent replacement for the tabernacle. All of its uses were outlined in exodus and leviticus, so we know what was done inside. It was offerings and sacrifice for the people, done by the Levite priest's. I don't have to know that Yad Vesham means memorial to know what was happening in the Temple. That's just silly 😜
@GLCToni7 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the secret Water Buffalo handshake that Barney and Fred would do on The Flintstones.
@oliviawolcott83517 ай бұрын
that's be cause Smith stole it from the Masonic lodge. its totally a fraternity thing.
@kurt666morris7 ай бұрын
LOL. Exactly. Or that Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton would do on the 1950's show "The Honeymooners" when they were in the Raccoon lodge group. LOL.
@dirtdarte7 ай бұрын
When I went through the temple for the first time in the very early 80's, we still did the death oaths, the slashing and gashing penalties and the "Pay Lay Ale" arms held high cult chants. It was a trip! Many mormons don't believe this was actually part of the ceremony ... but as a first hand participant, I assure you that this is a fact. At the time and as a true believer preparing for my mission, I felt I had no choice but to accept all this cult craziness. Like you, I noticed that the family and friends that were there with me... kept an eye on me the entire time.... I felt like they were trying to gauge my reactions to all the bizarre things that were pouring out everywhere. When I finished the "session" and exited the temple with my dad, he asked me what I thought about the endowment. The moment he asked, I sensed from him that he half expected me to call the whole thing out as what it actually is... a cult ceremony. I really felt grateful that I wasn't required to strip naked and sit on the alter chanting gibberish or maybe sacrifice a dog or cat to Elohim... so I told him it wasn't what I expected. He kinda laughed it off and said that I'd "get used to it".
@ObtuseDookie7 ай бұрын
Similar to me too. Glad you made it out mate
@kurt666morris7 ай бұрын
I went through in 1981. I hated everything about the ceremony. I didn't know what Free Masonry was at the time. This was borrowed or stolen from it. I hated the blood oaths too. I thought this is probably similar to how murderous cult leader Charles Manson inducted new members into "His family." .....I went through with my oldest Brother. In the car afterwards he kept asking me if I was alright. When I brought up something he shut it off right away. Saying "We don't know why but this was all essential to our salvation. You will just have to get used to it." I knew I wasn't in Kansas any more and the idealism of the Church left me that day.
@Makayz6 ай бұрын
Isn’t that just the crazy part? Our parents endorsing that it was ok to have to get used to it.
@snivelinj76126 ай бұрын
Absolutely all that stuff went on !
@sarahpinho11147 ай бұрын
One thing that broke my shelf was the idea of taking my own daughters through the temple ceremony and having to reassure them everything was "fine", knowing full well this isn't normal. I couldn't imagine placing that kind of pressure on them to accept it just because I thought it was the right thing. Having kids led me out of the church because even though I had gone along with things that seemed wierd bc my parents said it was okay, I never wanted my kids to go through all of that.
@kurt666morris7 ай бұрын
Amen. You are a great and responsible Parent.
@sarahpinho11147 ай бұрын
@@kurt666morris thank you! ☺️
@lawpenner4 ай бұрын
Love that you were able to be honest for your kid's sake. Shows you truly want what's best for them
@SENSEF2 ай бұрын
Me too!!! I always thought having children would bring me closer to God. Well, it did in a way... but led me right out of religion. NEVER saw that coming.
@unluckyone16557 ай бұрын
I managed to leave the church before I had the chance to go through all of that. I consider myself lucky.
@BrianWaller-qe7gr4 ай бұрын
Same I converted but left before getting the endowment. Didn’t really have an interest if i wasn’t going to get married.
@michaelparks566929 күн бұрын
Judas left before he was endowed also.
@marktinney57947 ай бұрын
The first time I went through, I exited the booth where you get your new name. It was all COMPLETELY new and strange. The officiated told me my new name and said I would be asked it later but I was not to tell anyone else. As I exited the booth another temple worker spied my pink card and asked if I had just received my new name and did I remember it? I said:" It is Aaron" No!No! Don't tell me, you tell the person at the veil! Well that ruined my whole session and I thought I would be going to hell for divulging it. 😂😂😂
@chlyri6 ай бұрын
oh the irony that you later learn that she knew your new name before you did.
@snivelinj76126 ай бұрын
The secrecy for all this mumbo-jumbo according to the active, believing members is "ohh it is so sacred we do not talk about it anywhere to anyone" ! I agree with you Lex that what you revealed here is totally accurate. And now that the secrecy of these "sacreds" are out, the "bretheren" change the ceremony. The washing and annointing, and the complete ceremony left my wife aghast when she went through the first time. She never wanted to experience any of that ever again. She finally sent a letter to our ward bishop, stating that she wanted out. She demanded no discussion, no meeting.
@Butterfly-ql4pg2 ай бұрын
Not to mention there are plenty of other religions that practice weird traditions they consider sacred and they don't feel that it's something they need to hide, which makes the whole "sacred, not secret" argument feel like a cop-out
@athalyerajan28237 ай бұрын
You rock sis i am an ex hindu and we can trade weird temple tales someday !!
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite7 ай бұрын
Yay more people with different stories! I just have the boring presbyterians to talk about
@PiemanPerkins7 ай бұрын
It's crazy how uncomfortable garments are. After leaving the church, the thing I was most excited for wasn't being able to drink coffee, alcohol, or sleeping in on Sunday; it was buying a pack of MeUndies. If garments felt like them, you'd have an easier time convincing me that they were divinely desinged.
@rockytreadway6 ай бұрын
Your experience was extremely similar to mine! I went through the temple in '98. It was so scary the whole time. I had the red flags flying throughout but it was the armed raised chanting that made me feel like for the first time (in my TBM, born under the covenant, 6th generation LDS) that I was in a cult. Truly the first red flag was being touched uncomfortably by a little old lady rubbing oil on my private areas bare skin with the anointing. It was all a shock to the system. I thought I was prepared because I was so faithful and wanted it more than anything! But it was a giant betrayal of trust that they do not prepare us for. Love your channel, content and commentary!!❤
@fairywingsonroses4 ай бұрын
I was sealed to my parents at the age of 7. Even at that age, the whole thing felt superficial. When I went to pick out a dress for my own wedding, I broke down in tears after trying on a few with sleeves. I finally had to stipulate that the dress had to be sleeveless because I just could not unsee the temple in it, and even though I wasn't getting married in the temple, I just couldn't escape the horror of looking in any way like I had just walked out of the temple. It honestly ruined the experience of dress shopping for my wedding. The dress I ended up with wasn't the dress I wanted or imagined myself wearing, but it was a dress that I felt like I could be myself in.
@palousetrance28236 ай бұрын
Lex, thank you for your accuracy and avoiding any gilding of the lilly. I got married in the SLC temple with live performers in the early eighties. Your pictures and descriptions are spot-on, including those demonstrating our pantomines of the penalties: disemboweling ourselves and slitting our throats to keep this inane ceremony secret. I remember looking around at my parents, uncles aunts, and grandparents (one who was a temple worker at the time) with a sense of dread, realizing they believed this to be divine. How? The actual answer is childhood indoctrination. Three years later I left, no regrets. 🙂
@Lady_Katie7 ай бұрын
“This is the bad place!”
@christopherrushdudley6 ай бұрын
As a lifelong skeptic I take great pleasure when someone who is naturally a thinker crawls out of the BS.
@Makayz6 ай бұрын
Now that I’ve been out for decades and no longer fear repercussions it baffles me that so many of my friends never questioned how weird this all is. I knew something was wrong at 17. And started questioning. I was lucky enough to have a neighbor convert that was willing to spill the beans about the temple and I was immediately horrified at how weird, creepy and downright gross the ceremony is. They’ve since changed the seriously sexually inappropriate rituals. In the years since I just didnt understood why people don’t push back on the weirdness of it all. I remember my mom saying that when you are truly in tune with the spirit you are in a state where the beauty of it all is revealed to you. She explained that even polygamy would make sense to me as I became more faithful and spiritual. I think the church does such a good job of setting the stage for its members to go along and not question that normal people hide and squash their concerns. They are master manipulators in getting people to stay in line. Which is one of the reasons I find this cult so dangerous. You will go along with outrageous behavior and not speak up. 💔
@kedecker6 ай бұрын
Spot on! That's exactly my reaction to the temple. At the time, I thought there must be something wrong with me for not feeling like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
@damonallen33227 ай бұрын
Almost everything in that ceremony was copied from the Masonic Lodge initiation ceremony.
@Ammoman345 ай бұрын
Smith stole other things as well. He acquired some Egyptian papyrus scrolls. He used his magic glass and found them to be "lost" books of the Bible. They're included in the book of mormon. They were rediscovered years later, and we found to be a portion of the Book of the Dead and inventories.
@newin54826 күн бұрын
Absolutely not! Dw
@Trixie_Lavender7 ай бұрын
I left the church before I did any of this. My temple experience was just baptisms for the dead, which isn't that weird. If you had told me that this was the endowment ceremony, I wouldn't have believed you
@chlyri4 ай бұрын
lol, in comparison, baptisms for the dead don't seem as weird, but they're still very weird.
@lukewheeler7658Ай бұрын
Same I’m 18 right now and my parents are obviously encouraging me to go on a mission but not forcing and I never actually knew exactly what goes on in the temple besides baptisms for the dead and now that I’ve finally looked into it I would’ve never believed what I’m seeing.
@Zeett096 ай бұрын
Wait. When I was 10 we had a secret knock and a secret password to enter our tree house. We never told the icky girls.
@Tesseus20064 ай бұрын
Wow! I am shocked that people have to go through this unbelievable surprise/secretive ceremony. I have complete sympathy for all the brothers and sisters that are part of this and don't think for a second about all the oaths and esoteric stuff. Part of it is their whole family and support system is entangled in their lives in and outside of church and education for so many. Especially in Utah. The magic underwear is just next level too. I will need time to process all this. Never did I imagine any of this. I will have to spend some time on your channel that accidentally popped up in my feed. Thank you for explaining all that you did. ❤🙏🏽 I have a whole lot more sympathy for months now.
@alicruz49004 ай бұрын
As a child, my mom had us hang these garments on the line to dry! I did not look forward to wearing them…
@jaredjones7776 ай бұрын
When me and my brother went through the temple ceremony we had the same reaction as you. We got the thought we were in a cult while we went through the ceremony. No wonder the didn't tell you any of this stuff if you did it would scare you away and ordinance work would aways be down.
@jasonray85306 ай бұрын
100% Facts... The picture where they had their hand to their neck simulated slitting their own throat.... which was part of the penalty phase of the ceremony... dropped in 91. Imagine, everlasting covenants being changed....hm.
@grandmaroxie22106 ай бұрын
My first time through feb 17, 1979. At the Idaho Falls temple they had a live session. I couldnt keep up with what was going on? It was crazy. Lol. Did the blood oaths. I was 6month pregnant. It was beyond crazy. Our garmets were one piece. Zippers in some, flared legs on some. Lol
@janhankins9117 ай бұрын
I never made it to the temple--I was always told I was "unworthy" because I questioned a lot and I did "horrible things" (I had a good friend that was a gay man, I went out with people of color, I was dating a non-Mormon, while I'd never had an abortion, I thought a woman had the right to choose, etc. So I was just never going to make it to the temple or "Celestial Kingdom"). Never wore garments (again, not "worthy"). Now I'm really happy I wasn't ever worthy of any of that crap. That is exactly what a cult looks like. And secret handshakes to get into heaven? I'd heard rumors but didn't really believe them, I mean, how stupid is that? That can't possibly be true. Guess it is.
@beauxq7 ай бұрын
It always surprised me that the magic underwear is what people talk about the most. "Why aren't people talking about the secret handshakes to get into heaven!?"
@chlyri4 ай бұрын
because it's traumatizing for many.
@RicardoCoyote6 ай бұрын
I was a member of the church for 20 years. I first went through the temple I'm going on a mission and did not feel uplifted or inspired the first time or really anytime after that. I remember the endowment very clearly and don't miss it at all. I'm Catholic now and love the Mass and always leave uplifted and inspired and all the things that you would expect of worshiping God worshiping God. I've been Catholic much longer than I was Mormon and really wish I had bypass the whole Mormon thing but I guess things work out for a reason, right?
@sarah_7577 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I am very amused by the notion of giving st peter (well, the mormon version thereof) a complicated handshake to t get into heaven. That gets you in, and a $20 tip will get him to seat you at a better table, not the one behind the pillar 😂
@kray38837 ай бұрын
I watched another ex-Mormon video and carefully memorized the handshakes, in case of this religion thing turning out to be real or, less completely impossible, I end up in some movie-esque hostage situation where I need to bluff my way out by pretending to be Mormon. (I've also memorized the airplane emergency radio frequency in case I'm ever on a plane and something happens to every single crew member but I'm somehow fine. It is 121.5.)
@kathleenwharton21397 ай бұрын
I went through the Temple in 1966. You missed the slitting your throat part. The Temple thing terrified me. I had to have a lady go with me and hold my hand. Finally I just accepted it but it was awful feeling. The garments I liked. I was in Idaho and they helped me stay warm. In Arizona they sucked. God took me out of the church when I was late 40’s..brought me a Bible and taught me from this Bible what was relevant for me and I have learned Jesus commandments..which Mormons and Christians seem oblivious too. And I live my life with Jesus! Jesus Saved and Freed His people from the Pharisee Church. Jesus Saved and Freed me! ❤😊
@NukeOTron7 ай бұрын
...as if the temple dedications with the handkerchief-waving weren't culty enough. If they can make you do something ridiculous without a second thought, they can make you do abominable things as well.
@dchuns17 ай бұрын
Man, I am so sorry for anyone who has to live that bizarre life...
@seppyq36726 ай бұрын
I really winced at the "you can leave now if you want" right away I thought, "that can't be good." Not too far into it, I thought, "wait, I grew up in a cult?!" I only went once more to get married and never went back afterwards.
@chlyri4 ай бұрын
it's not even that you can leave if you want. the phrasing they use subtly insinuates weakness or worse if you do leave.
@cameronperry84466 ай бұрын
I developed really bad anxiety after going through the first time. There was all these actions and words I had to memorize and I had to memorize my “new name”. I took it really seriously and that’s what created the anxiety. I felt like by not doing something right that I was unworthy. I remember it taking me forever to put on the stupid hat and other clothing. And people were just waiting forever for me. I was the last one by far. I think I went 10 times and the last time was when my wife went through for the first time. I felt bad for her. She looked like a ghost afterwards.
@lydiakies90537 ай бұрын
I've been inside a church once in 4 years, and only because it was a funeral. I was legitimately scared I was going to be struck by lightning. I grew up with and around Mormons. I knew things, like the name of the angel on top of the temple. (Cue the shocked Pikachu face from the missionaries. *informed apostate* ) Your videos have been really enlightening.
@oliviawolcott83517 ай бұрын
wait, what's the name of the angel?
@markmidwest70927 ай бұрын
@@oliviawolcott8351Moroni
@KennyBye5 ай бұрын
@@oliviawolcott8351moroni, i believe? i remember them mentioning it in the book of mormon musical, the stage design has a statue of moroni on the top of the downstage archway.
@Catryx397 ай бұрын
I was ok with most of it until I got to the handshake part. I thought it was ridiculous. Then the prayer circle came and I was like…. Yeah this is all dumb. Kept it to myself and did it all one more time to see how I felt the second time. Still thought it was all so dumb. Pretty much stopped going within the next year completely. Haven’t gone back since 2012!
@ObtuseDookie7 ай бұрын
Good on you. Took me longer than I’d like to admit.
@melorca19627 ай бұрын
I think people in cults should be encouraged to "help their family members who have lost faith". To go and read material like the CES Letter and find out where the lies are. Now the CES Letter (for example) has no lies, but by instigating a loving concern for their relatives, maybe one can get the cult members to examine stuff they would not touch otherwise.
@unicorntamer22076 ай бұрын
This is why Rusty says, "Don't listen to the ex-mormons. They threw in their lot with the adversary..." They want to keep the members in the dark.
@chlyri4 ай бұрын
your approach would effectively make them not cults.
@denisekeeran98837 ай бұрын
I'm so glad I got out before having to face this. As a convert though, I really think once I would have gotten a glimpse of this, I would have turned tail and run. I knew garments existed and had seen them and did. not. want them. But I would have felt utterly betrayed about all the things I didn't know.
@SpaceLordof757 ай бұрын
I recently read the Book of Mormon for the first time, and one thing that struck me was that it seems to imitate the language and phrasing of the KJV translation, but with less elegance and subtlety. I’m an atheist, but I love the language of the KJV, despite the content, and the sometimes poor translation choices. Do Mormons realize that the original books of the Hebrew Bible are not grammatically like Early Modern English found in the KJV? And that their newer holy book would likely have no reason to sound like a ripoff of the KJV?
@oliviawolcott83517 ай бұрын
I grew up KJV only, and I remember reading the book of mormon and pearls of great price and thinking that it really just sounded like someone was trying very poorly to copy that style, but with too many heretofores, and verilys.
@angelacoleman47646 ай бұрын
9@@oliviawolcott8351
@dustyrose59947 ай бұрын
I’m so happy you are not in the LDS cult anymore. I hope one day you can heal enough from the spiritual abuse you suffered to be able to put Christianity and its gospel (which is in every way different than the Mormon one) through the scrutiny you did with the LDS church. I think you would enjoy that process, regardless of where you end up with it. Ask your questions of Christianity. In the Bible God says “come and let us reason together.” He’s not asking you to earn your way to heaven. He’s not asking you to have blind faith that has no basis in reality. He’s calling all of our hearts to truth and I hope your heart can find Him, the real Him one day. Either way, I wish you all the very best and I enjoy your channel ❤
@jurekzarzycki23417 ай бұрын
My experience was quite similar.
@heronimousbrapson8633 ай бұрын
Who controls the British pound, who keeps the metric system down: WE DO! WE DO! ( The Simpsons).
@fal87127 ай бұрын
My mom told me that there would be things that I might find funny, but that I shouldn't laugh. When I went out, my skirt rode up because it was made of cotton, just like the garments, something that hadn't happened to me before wearing them. Personally, they are not uncomfortable for me, just sometimes, but I buy small sizes. I also constantly buy sexy clothes to be with my husband, even if I have some garment that are a little torn, my husband likes to tear them while we are having sex, it's exciting. The funny thing is that he is the one who still believing in the church. At least he already told me his name of the temple so that's something good 😂
@timmills97277 ай бұрын
Im not mormon but God bless you for your bravery. I'm new to your channel but I hope and pray you haven't given up on faith in Jesus Christ.
@ObtuseDookie7 ай бұрын
Sorry to disappoint you but she’s against all religion and thinks it’s all a sham, which is very common among exmos. In the same way.
@arkdark55546 ай бұрын
"The secret handshake…to make it into the heaven."😅😅😅😅😅Accept all kind of shit when you are in the middle of IGNORANCE.
@hero0fcanton1906 ай бұрын
I know as a guy it is different. I didn't even notice garments. Mesh fabric was unnoticeable to me. The other garment fabrics I tried were not comfortable.
@johnfaris53763 ай бұрын
I found the endowment very stressful even disturbing.
@QuinnPrice7 ай бұрын
I was shocked by 4 things. 1) At the beginning I was warned that "God would not be mocked" and to withdraw unless I was serious. I had no idea what was coming so this felt manipulative. 2) Satan was the one who told us to put on our apron, a symbol of shame. 3) Secret handshake? Seriously? 4) The agreements were ridiculous. Avoid loud laughter? I've heard they changed that. Apparently, God got it wrong again. Very creepy. I became a viel worker to try to understand this more. Glad to have left this lie behind.
@MooseCracker6 ай бұрын
You should teach everybody the handshakes so they can all get in. Afterall, we're all one big family and want to be together forever, through heavenly father's plan, right? 😂
@oliviawolcott83517 ай бұрын
when I learned about the endowment ceremony, that was wild. I became interested because I was friends with some mormons for a bit. and there's a video filmed in secret of a more old school version of the endowment. no movie. more a symbolic re-enactment of the whole thing with adam and eve. call and responses included. felt very ceremony and culty. and recently a podcast I listen to has been doing a series on mormons and its offshoots. they're working on the LeBaron sect next. which is such a wild story. which reminds me, could you talk about Blood Atonement as taught by the mainstream LDS church? because that is a wild teaching that I just found out about, but I'm not sure how its taught or practiced now.
@GFH-rp8or7 ай бұрын
The blood atonement was never a thing. Really, you don't have to look it up or research it for yourself or anything, just trust us . . . I think the ceremony used to be live in all the temples, but by the time I came around in the 80s it was only live in Salt Lake, everyone else had a movie. Yeah, the live version felt even more culty, for sure.
@joetaylor86874 ай бұрын
And interesting that they're always changing the ritual / routine. Maybe the next version will be something like, "Put your right foot in, pull your right foot out . . . put your right foot in, and shake it all about . . . " etc. Amazing that people believe that all this Masonic mumbo-jumbo is THE factor in whether or not deity considers a person worthy in any way.
@kentthalman44596 ай бұрын
The endowment will always be prioritized in Mormonism because it involves raising your right hand to the square to consecrate your money and time to the cult.
@baron77552 ай бұрын
4:40 how do you say handshakes?
@GodSlayerQueen6 ай бұрын
I always felt shamed by the guy up there when I would do endowments after for not remembering the handshakes and words.
@nordicexile73785 ай бұрын
Funny thing is that Satan is the one telling the truth in the ceremony: Peter asks "what is being taught?" and Satan says "the philosophies of men, mingled with scripture." He was right! 👿
@PsiPhy6 ай бұрын
Thousands of dollars and years of service only to find dressing up in costumes, baptized and married for all the dead people we can find, Learning handshakes to heaven and multi-level marketing (more$$) to get to be God of my own world😅
@kentthalman44596 ай бұрын
I went in 1980. The rite seemed so far away from god.
@angelrogo3 ай бұрын
This is just a Scottish freemasonry ritual. That's why is secret.
@Eugene3846 ай бұрын
All these Temples are tax exempt!
@12345gerrard6 ай бұрын
They don't look good at all they should update those garments
@micheleh38516 ай бұрын
Not an exmo here. Just wanted to point out for those who are or never been that the video clip at 3:13 is fake and the people are actors. There is no "Mormon" Temple that uses a brown wooden table with a red towel folded on top as part of any ceremony, and no open circle for a camera operator to conveniently capture a posed / staged photo. The clip at 2:11 isn't accurate either.
@ExmoLex6 ай бұрын
That’s true, but it does make it clearer what it looks like for someone inside the circle (sans table). The ceremony is so secret there are no photos or videos unless a hidden camera is used, so it’s hard to show what I’m talking about. 2:11 is pretty accurate of the clothing though, not sure what the problem is with that one.
@micheleh38516 ай бұрын
@ExmoLex - Those people are doing strange things with their hands that aren't part of any Temple ceremony. If your goal was only to highlight the clothing, you could have used the official clothing videos from the Church website, not videos produced by people whose goal isn't to educate, but to disparage on purpose.
@ExmoLex6 ай бұрын
@@micheleh3851actually they’re showing a part of the penalties (no longer part of the endowment, but was practiced up until the 90’s). As far as I know there isn’t an official church video showing anyone wearing the clothing, but either way, I did give a heads up.
@isaackent23556 ай бұрын
If you're not Mormon no more, and an Atheist , then how come you don't have an Onlyfans? Is the guilty of such things engraved in your soul? In Ireland there is a thing call ''Catholic Guilty'' ,and even though a huge percent of people in Ireland no longer attend or believe in the Church, they still have this '' Catholic Guilty'' that makes them feel shame.
@chlyri6 ай бұрын
why would she have an onlyfans just because she's not a member anymore? that had nothing to do with any of this.
@isaackent23556 ай бұрын
Ahh but what is stopping her, that is my question, what controlling factor prevents her ? I'm curious as to what is still controlling her decisions @@chlyri
@chlyri6 ай бұрын
@@isaackent2355she just doesn't want to? who needs the church to stop them from doing something they don't want to do? 🙄 what ever point you think you're making isn't being made.
@andrewfarrugia60726 ай бұрын
It’s false
@MarkKoltkoRivera5 ай бұрын
Apparently you were prepared very poorly for the temple experience. In particular, you were not prepared to understand the role of symbolism in the temple. For example, it is not knowledge of handshakes or secret words that “get you into heaven”; rather, it is the keeping of the sacred covenants made in the temple that can make one worthy of exaltation. I am sad that your preparation-or, more precisely, the lack thereof-served you so very poorly.
@chlyri4 ай бұрын
it literally says that you need to signs and tokens. to get into heaven, so yes, it is about them. they make it out that the symbolism means nothing if you forget the names or signs. even the long one i can still recite from memory because it's drilled in. hardly anyone is properly prepared because that's entirely against the point. knowing consent doesn't exist.
@endlesseverfall317620 күн бұрын
Your channel is helping the Saints, not to honor and obey their Sacred Covenants to God. You want them, to be driven by men's beliefs and doctrines. Be careful that one day, you will be held accountable before Jesus Christ judgement seat, in tearing down his Kingdom here on earth. While you wallow in unbelief and the voices of mens opinions and your own opinions, the faithful Saints are helping their fellowmen learn the fullness of Jesus Christ gospel to return to their Father in Heaven, by helping also the departed people from various era, to receive the fullness of God's gospel, because during those times, they were not able to receive it. The rest of the churches and religions of the world, has no clue about it, and they are not helping the gathering of Israel from both sides of the veil either. All ordinances that you received from other churches has no effect after this life is over, if it's not under the true priesthood from Jesus Christ. Always remember that.
@TheDianeticist7 ай бұрын
If you put as much work in to earning your salvation as you did nattering and complaining about the LDS church then maybe you could achieve glory in the celestial kingdom after you die…
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite7 ай бұрын
Or there's no such thing as heaven and your imaginary friend doesn't exist
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite7 ай бұрын
Yes she should be pointing out all of this b******* and be complaining about all of this b*******. This is a cult and it's an abusive Colt and it needs to be called out for what it is. absolutely stupid bullshit
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite7 ай бұрын
I mean do you really think that there's secret handshakes to get into heaven? What is stupid concept. How gullible do you have to be to think you have to have a secret handshake to get into heaven???
Oh believe me, you probably were better off with the movie. We got married in the Manti temple so we could have a nice quiet time with the "live performance". Oh god. It was SOOOOOOO boring. A bunch of old yt dudes in tacky yt suits reading from a sh!tty script. We'd been told how much more awesome the live performance was. Ugh. lol. And like you said the "knowledge bomb" was SOOOOOO underwhelming. Just stuff we'd already learned in seminary and church. We'd been told that we'd "learn SOOOO much" in the temple. lol, such a joke. Sadly it took us many years before we finally made it out. Such a shame though, we only missed the "throat slitting" parts by a couple of years. lol.