Mormon Garments Explained

[@BannanaOnFloor]

I did not expect to be going down a mormonism rabbit hole but here I am

[@tracienielson7183]

You still haven't. You've gone down an anti-mormonism rabbit hole.

[@cabrown308]

It is compelling. Have you checked out Mormon stories? And I’m a never Mormon!!😂😂.

[@mistiquefire3462]

Mormonsism is so wack. It's super interesting it's endless beyond words. My x nest friend of 35 years was mormon she kept it all under wraps. I busted it up at end too much of nothing

[@mistiquefire3462]

Demonic

[@dtowngirl9145]

I only wanted to see what it looked like but the meaning behind them was very interesting especially the temple recommend part! I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness and I was very indoctrinated as well! I watched Big Love on HBO and remembered the temple scene when Barb went.

[@gracier1123]

I grew up Mormon and the fact that I learned more from you than I did the 18 years I was in the church is very telling

[@chlyri]

and this is what people who criticize exmos who speak out need to understand.

[@AM-kr4pv]

​@@WatchingwaitingG2DI tapped your username and it says you have made 100+ comments on this channel. Are you okay? You seem SO angry, spending so much time and energy stalking ex-mormon content and writing abusive comments on so many videos. Surely if you're content with your religion you wouldn't feel the need to watch this stuff clearly to a compulsive degree and then lash out at these creators with an incredible amount of judgement and ferocity. I wonder where all that rage is coming from... Hope you work it out eventually. If anything, I hope at least you figure out that being mad at people on the internet won't fix anything 💜

[@charlesmendeley9823]

​@@WatchingwaitingG2DIt seems you don't have enough church callings so that you can comment here all day long. Don't you receive callings because you are not worthy enough? Are you unmarried or even lesbian?

[@VeraSelah]

I left the Mormon church at 14, but my family is still devout. My little brother just left on his mission. I am now 21, but still live at home with the rest of my Mormon family as the "black sheep." I only discovered all of these secret happenings in the temple last year and it made me sick to my stomach. She is not joking about the secrecy. I did not know what an endowment was, only that if you were 18 in the temple and didn't have it, you had to wear a special tag saying that. To think that the people I live with, the people I was surrounded by as a little "sunbeam" dreaming of the temple, they all went through this time and time again and no one woke up? No one opened their eyes to realize how pharisaic and cultish it is?

[@VeraSelah]

​@@WatchingwaitingG2D​ What is dishonest about it? Dive into your own church history... Look at your own church's website where they admit that the Book of Abraham is not actually true. Look into the true hieroglyph that Joseph Smith stole it from and the fact that it is an ancient funerary text, not a prophecy. The church has done a great job at burying its past and the secrets it still has, but only because it keeps its own members in the dark. Go searching for yourself. That is what they always tell you, right? "Questioning is good because you need to know it is true for yourself." Except this time, go search for the answers on your own. If your doctrine is truly sound, then you should be able to go searching into the past and into the secrets and not find any fault...

[@Thumper17]

My Grandmas third husband is a Mormon man, hes wonderful and takes the best care of her. Hes never forced any mormonism on me but is open to discussion and questions. I am already Christian so maybe that helps. Anyways, he came out of his room to stoke the fire in the wood stove in his mormon garments as I came out of the guest room for a glass of water, I asked him why they wear those garments as hes always answered questions. He told me he couldnt tell me and I would have to reach a certain level in the church to know. This was the only time he refused to answer a question.

[@MissSun23]

@@geodavras sometimes people are widowed, dude

[@DanTheCaptain]

That answer sounds like something you’d hear from a cult.

[@Thumper17]

​@@MissSun23 Didn't see the comment referred too but her first husband beat her and locked her in the basement, her Brother nearly killed the guy and got her out. Her and her second husband (Grandpa) were married in 1961 and together for 8 years and had a pile of kids and he cheated on her/fell out of love. Didn't marry the third guy until the 80s and has been married 40+ years.

[@MissSun23]

​@@Thumper17 i'm sorry that happened! and i apologise if my comment sounded weird after the person i originally answered to deleted their answer. they were judging your grandmother for having a third husband (ie having been married multiple times) and shaming her for that seemed ridiculous to me when, as explained in your comments, people can separate for a lot of reasons, sometimes out of their control even (like passing away). have an amazing day and a good end of the year. wishing great things to you and your family.

[@Thumper17]

​@@MissSun23 Oh thank you, I'm glad that other guy deleted their comment. My grandma has never said anything unkind about Grandpa or her first Husband. Grandpa isn't a bad person either, just a ladies man. He was involved with his children and always had money when asked for it. The first husband died maybe 15 years back and the less said about him the better. Be well.

[@elizabethgriesse1775]

I was in a Masonic group called Job's Daughters when I was a kid... and in Wyoming. I remember hearing girls from some of the towns with more Mormons talk about how Mormons couldn't join Masonic organizations. Catholics and fundamentalist Christians don't tend to approve of Masons, so I kind of lumped Mormons in there too. And now I'm realizing the LDS church didn't want their members to become Masons because they might realize how much Joseph Smith stole.

[@davidmehling4310]

In particular regarding the undergarments, the three embroidered symbols are the level, compasses, and square which figure as "working tools" of Masonry. They look different from their depiction today, because the embroidery pattern is based on Masonic art from Joseph Smith's lifetime

[@toniebonilla3165]

I was a Jobie too. I am also a member. She has so much hate !!

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

Yep. Most Mormons are not taught about how much Joseph Smith "borrowed" from Masonry. Just as a quick introduction: Joseph Smith was "initiated" into Masonry at 7pm on March 15, 1842, in the Masonic lodge established in Nauvoo in December 1841. Pursuant to a special authorization, Joseph Smith was "raised" to the degree of "Master Mason" in the course of three ceremonies, going from "Entered Apprentice" (@around 7pm on March 15th) to "Fellowcraft" (@around 9am on March 16th) to "Master Mason" (@around 7pm on March 16th) within a space of about 24 hours (all apparently in accordance with some version of "York Masonry"). The Mormon "endowment" rituals and ordinances were introduced by Joseph Smith on May 3, 1842. The similarities were so obvious that Joseph Smith explained that the rituals and ordinances he introduced were purely from the real priesthood of God, and Masonry (implied to be a degenerate and incomplete remnant of the original priesthood) was derived from the ancient priesthood rituals and ordinances that he had introduced and restored. (He was a very opportunistic prophet and revelator, often inspired by things happening to him and around him and then using that to create something "sacred" that he claimed was "revealed" to him by God.) At some point when concocting his fake scriptures, he even inserted references to Masonry, which he clumsily tried to obfuscate simply by switching the "s" in Masonry to an "h"...hence there is a character named Mahonri (Mahonri = Masonry) and Cain is referred to as "Master Mahan" (Master Mahan = Master Mason). The Book of Mormon even contains themes inspired by the Anti-Masonry movement in upstate NY during the 1820s, kicked off by the exposé published by William Morgan in 1826 (complete with illustrations showing the same handshakes that were later used in the Mormon temple) and his subsequent murder. Morgan's widow (Lucinda) joined Mormonism and is counted among Joseph Smith's plural wives. Brigham Young (second grand poo-bah and top prophet guy for Mormonism) used to pose for portraits proudly displaying his Masonic pin. The pin was later air-brushed out of subsequent printings. The first generation of Mormons KNEW that Masonry and Mormonism were linked in many ways. For subsequent generations, the top leadership successfully erased that knowledge from memory, concealing it and avoiding mention of it...and many Mormons, not knowing any better, often flatly deny any connection. In recent years, the church has published relevant information (buried many clicks deep on its website). But most Mormons are still blissfully unaware and wouldn't think to look for the information because they are completely unaware that there is any connection or issue to be researched in the first place.

[@toniebonilla3165]

@TEAM__POSEID0N absolutely right !! Don't have all the answers to exactly what is right or wrong. I just know God is beyond my understanding so I will wait to have all the puzzle put together. Joseph Smith would not be the first man/Prophet to let his own life creep into what he says is from God. Examples from all religions and all churches. Face towards Christ and His Father and the goodness of the light will direct a path. In other words I don't have control over much so I just let My Father handle it.

[@hannahs137]

I only just heard of Job's Daughters during a Christmas parade here in Wyoming a few weeks ago! I'll have to look into it. The name alone was intriguing.

[@shellygenevievee]

Girl, I’ve been watching your videos all week and I just want to say I’m so impressed with your courage and passion to educate people who are curious. You are so awesome for bringing this stuff to the light.

[@PriestessofIsis]

thank you so much! 14 years ago my son was rushed through a conversion then into a marriage as soon as he turned 18. He was then 'convinced" to no longer have contact with me and pretty much cut off his siblings as well. I miss him. I appreciate you shedding some light on some of his experiences.

[@Vikki.ledge987]

I can't imagine anything worse than losing contact with your beloved son. My mum & I had to break contact with my brother (for different but valid reasons), and that was hard enough. To lose contact when it's not your fault or choice must be devastating. I can only hope that he wakes up one day. Sending you my love and best wishes for your future ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@HeatherJohnassonDixon]

Your not talking in regard the Church or Jesus Christ are you? Because that is not right. Not church standard at all.

[@lizgold4533]

I've been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints my whole life (the actual name of the church, we dont go by Mormon any more). I'm not sure why this happened to your son and I'm so sorry that it did. Please know this is NOT the norm. The church is very family oriented, so this goes against everything we're taught about loving your family. Again, I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this.

[@mkspangenberg]

Awful. Sign of a cult right there. I am sorry.

[@thisoldnurse1521]

Guess Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow didn’t wear these Morman Underwear pieces. 😂🤣. Obviously a cult. Cult! Cult!

[@doubtingmustafa]

3:20, wow you articulated a feeling I’ve wrestled with for twelve years! Like many women, my endowment was the day before my wedding and it scared the hell out of me! I was not expecting it to be feel so embarrassing, unfocused on Christ, and cultish. It felt nothing like the church I knew. It rocked me. I was in such a weird head space for the rest of the day, but I had a wedding the next day that I had planned for months. Honestly, I was doing fine in the church until I went through the temple, but by then, it was too late to do anything about it. Thank you for bringing this sentiment to light. It’s really sad, isn’t it? As for garments, I dealt with them for eight years (even through three summer pregnancies 😭) before choosing underwear that made me feel comfortable and happy. I wear them for church, but that’s it. Ugh. I struggle with this church so much. I’d leave, but I don’t think my husband could handle that.

[@h.s.3883]

Don't stay in a church you do not believe in. Your religion is personal to you and your creator and is a conversation worth having--even with the fear of rejection. I wish you the best.

[@maryschiff9580]

I have many cousins who are LDS and it saddens me that so many have been lied to. When the book of choice for all things relating to God comes not from the Bible itself but from the Book of Mormon, there’s a problem. Jesus’s salvation is free and His mercy is everlasting to all who give their hearts to Him. No other ceremonies, no special clothes, no mission trips, no physical acts are necessary beyond the yielding of one’s own will and heart to the One who died for our sins and was resurrected after He conquered death. John 3:16 says very simply that God loves us so much that He gave His Son, Jesus, so that anyone who believes in Him will have eternal life. That is the foundation of my faith. Nothing we do can earn us a place in Heaven, other than having faith of Jesus Christ.

[@roesi1985]

The icky feeling you describe says it all. There's literally nothing in Christianity that should make you feel that way (and if it does, it should be deeply questioned). I believe that we're able to feel what is right and what isn't, despite all brainwashing and spiritual abuse. Run!

[@Rainbow-m3w]

God will give you strength to leave. Be sure to not allow your kids there too. The LDS makes it very difficult to leave. Husband needs to choose but sadly he loves a religion that glorifies the man.

[@theonionqueen3519]

I wish you luck. It won’t be easy, but I hope whatever conclusion you come to will be one that is fulfilling and truthful.

[@eleanoronaele]

i went thrifting with my VERY active mormon sister the other day- when she found a garment top among the underwear she FREAKED and immediately grabbed it and said she would cut it up. i asked her why and she said something along the lines of "well someone who's not endowed could end up wearing it!" and im still so confused by the purpose of any of this

[@lillylunapotter8079]

….maybe suggest to her that she give them to a priest or equivalent to give to someone lower income instead of wasting them in future.

[@ginamiller6754]

They are told to cut the symbols out before disposing of the garments so no one can see the secret (aka sacred) symbol.

[@chlyri]

​@@lillylunapotter8079they would never let that happen.

[@jjjtttggg]

Just crazy cult ritual… nothing more or less.

[@isaackent2355]

"well someone who's not endowed could end up wearing it!" I had no idea that had anything to do with it, so you need to be well endowed with a massive cock to wear them, wow!

[@GrandmatoRVSGCM]

Just found your channel today and I am enjoying your content. I was raised Catholic and we raised 4 kids (all adults now) Catholic. Today I just have my own faith journey and don’t believe I have to sit in a pew or church once a week to be with my higher power. My higher power is my faith journey and lives in me.

[@juliaconnell]

completely, totally 100% agree - also raised catholic - respect the faith, the teachings of JC, many good people DOING good things (every religion - all rivers flow from the same source) - but left the structure, the building, the words of *people* - long ago - my GOD is *all* (certainly not 'lord' - why have a male god - hmmm = ) - my GOD *is LOVE* - forgiveness - true, beauty, light, love - can be found anywhere need to change the words - 'to dust' - “For dust you are, and to dust you shall return” - nah mate - we are made from STARS - to the stars we return (simple science - "every atom of oxygen in our lungs, of carbon in our muscles, of calcium in our bones, of iron in our blood - was created inside a star before Earth was born. Hydrogen and helium, the lightest elements were produced in the Big Bang. Almost all of the other, heavier, elements were produced inside stars") 💫💖💫

[@mr.zondide2746]

To me, the one reason to leave the Catholic Church is being able to watch Abbott and Costello on Sunday mornings

[@GrandmaKnightLife]

@@juliaconnell star dust then?

[@XxheymoonxX]

YEAS! This ! I may not follow a written script or theology, but that don’t mean I don’t got god in my heart! Separating my religious beliefs from organizations has been such a relief. Religion should not be a cult! It should be a personal relationship between you and the creator

[@juliaconnell]

@@GrandmaKnightLife well, yes, as a human being - we are literally *literally* made of star dust after? well.... *energy cannot be created or destroyed* another *fundamental* of SCIENCE - "First law of thermodynamics. The first law of thermodynamics is based on the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be transferred from one form to another." as a human - we are literally made of star dust. what happens to the ENERGY - after?- transformed - the way I see it, understand it - 'spark of the divine - having a human experience' (& others agree, lovely conversation with an older gent the other week - been to war he has, 3 tours among death & destruction - been a literal 'man of god' - minister in church of england (see how ridiculous that looks - "church of england" = ) he agrees with that - statement - definition = 'spark of the divine - having a human experience' - spark - soul - 'holy spirit' my GOD - is *ALL* = everything - we cannot separate ourselves from everything else around us - quantum world, where simply observing quantum *changes* it - from the massive, mind boggling VASTNESS of the universe again - SCIENCE - "energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be *transferred* from one form to another" 💖💫💖

[@anoriginalcreationx]

Garments and tithing were always a struggle for me. Husband and I were sealed a year after we were married.. wore them for nearly a decade. About 3 years into wearing them I was diagnosed with thyroid disease (Grave's) and wearing them in the summer was unbearable. Symptoms of Graves is lots of sweating, and feeling overheated, so I didn't wear them for about 6 months..I never did wear them at night, to sleep. I have sensory issues and couldn't sleep with them on... The next time I took them off was a couple of years ago..until one day my husband commented that he wanted me to wear them again because I was wearing clothes that showed my cleavage... But it wasn't my clothes it was buying a bra that fit for the first time in my life... So even with the garments my cleavage was showing... And the last time I took them off was in August of this year when my shelf broke and I knew the church wasn't true... I went back and forth for a few weeks on what to do with them... Thought about burning them, but decided to just put them in the trash and throw them away. I didn't do anything special and it was so liberating. I'm not a cookie cutter mormon- I spent 20 years in active addiction and have 3 kids with 3 dads.. our 10 year temple anniversary just passed and I sent a letter in to remove my name. 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@anoriginalcreationx]

I still have my temple clothes... I might need them one day. 😂😂😂

[@fyrefli4109]

@@anoriginalcreationx I use mine as rags for my windows. They leave a brilliant streak-free finish on glass, mirrored, and polished surfaces!

[@calypsoc3630]

I'm glad you got out and don't need to wear the garments anymore 💗

[@JustGigi319]

Congratulations on escaping the cult!

[@ginamiller6754]

I hope your health is better! Praying for you. (not Mormon).

[@ThesaurusToblerone]

Those seem so uncomfortable, especially in summer. Ickkk.

[@JasperRoberts-jx6jj]

You wanna know what’s really ickkk it’s common (at least in my family) for the parents to walk around in just their garments in front of their children, they’re literally walking around in just “underwear” in front of kids and my siblings were raised to think that was normal and not at all odd, I genuinely didn’t think it was weird or unusual last year (when I was 20) and my friend found out because my dad was just in his garments and pj pants when my non member friend was over, and she mentioned it and I said “Oh unless we have guests over he doesn’t wear the PJ pants” and I was told that was creepy and weird.

[@bingo7829]

My hot flashes and night sweats would make wearing those a horrible experience!

[@robindavidson4859]

@@JasperRoberts-jx6jjI don’t think it’s weird. I think it would be considered pretty normal to most people.

[@JasperRoberts-jx6jj]

@@robindavidson4859 good to know

[@lolababs206]

​@@robindavidson4859It's weird when you consider how MORMONS view these garments. Their views are what makes it weird.

[@smallmeadow1]

I have Mormon ancestors. It's interesting to see the garments. I always feel that Jos. Smith was pulling a joke on people with these garments and the temple ceremony. I can just imagine him snickering about how he could get anyone to do anything. Aside from that comment, I'm wondering where these are being made and by whom? Are they made by Mormons or non-Mormons, and how does that affect their sacredness? Are they made in China? Sure is interesting.

[@Dramallamalaci]

They're made in distribution centers owned by the church. You don't have to have a temple recommend to put together the fabric to make the garments, but you *do* have to have a temple recommend to sew the symbols on to them. Source: My stepmom used to work at one of the distribution centers here in Utah

[@goldstarsforall]

Back when he would have been wearing them they would have actually been underwear tho. He was born in 1805 so even for men it would have been unspeakable to go out without an undershirt and all that jazz. Modern day... with washing machines and a more disposable idea of clothing. Yeah. The Garments aren't it.

[@Vibeagain]

What makes it so interesting?

[@roastedpepper]

@@Vibeagainit’s super interesting for non-Mormons and especially non-religious people. I’ve binge watched her entire channel in one day cause I just find it fascinating. A person who isn’t in this type of community finds it’s very VERY VERY unusual and kinda hard to believe to people believe and live their lives according to these rules. It’s astounding.

[@michaelparks5669]

Jesus wore garments .

[@Katie-vf5fg]

This was so respectful and informative. I had a lot of questions about mormonism and I was too afraid to ask my mormon friends out of fear of disrespecting them, but this cleared a lot up for me.

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

The funny thing is that the rituals she experienced, as cult-like and weird as they are, represent a very watered-down revised version (you could call it "Mormonism Light"). Until 1990, there was a "penalty" portion in which all of the participants literally pantomimed their own executions by methods such as disembowelment and throat slicing, accompanied by a covenant to allow their lives to be taken by such methods if they ever were to break their oath of secrecy regarding the endowment particulars. Because devout Mormons are pretty good at zipping up their lips and not talking about what happens in the temple, post-1990 inductees are generally unaware of what happened pre-1990. Their parents never told them. Many of the younger generations refuse to believe it. In this video Alyssa also mentioned how creepy it was to shake the hands of an old man through the veil. If she had gone through it prior to 1990, shaking hands would have been the least of her worries. Originally, that part was called the "Five Points of Fellowship" and involved an intimate hugging with an old man, literally conducted as follows: "inside of right foot by the side of right foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand to back, and mouth to ear".

[@lucyblanton8599]

you're actually in the same situation as me, i have a few friends who are lds and they assure me its okay to ask questions, but i dont want to come across as rude or anything, but i am still curious so these videos are helpful

[@RinkuStars]

The thing is asking stuff like this is considered very disrespectful to Mormons. I’ve heard a lot of people who tend to respond to any questions about Mormon garments with stuff like “I don’t ask you about your underwear so why are you asking about mine” so uh yeah, majority of Mormons would think a video like this as even sacrilegious

[@Alice45894]

​@@RinkuStarswell it doesn't really matter what they think. Why should anyone have to be "respectful" of a creepy oppressive brainwashing cult.

[@jamieharris2349]

Thank you for being respectful while explaining things. Even though you don't believe in any of it anymore, you weren't wildly offensive like many people are. You stated the facts clearly and simply. Though a couple of things are slightly incorrect or now outdated, most of it was pretty accurate. People actually can get their endowments without getting married or going on a mission, as long as they are over 18 and no longer in high-school. Also, there are some styles of women's garments with the screen printed marks on them now as well. There are also plain t-shirt style women's tops without the weird boob pockets. I never could stand the itchy seams, and never could understand who those pocket styles actually fit correctly anyway. As for those who want to ask your mormon friends questions, please keep asking, especially the younger generation members (around 50 and down). If you get a weird stand-offish response, find another member who will answer you, even if you have to go outside of your immediate community. Old traditions die hard. Many people's parents have raised their kids to be terrified of talking about things. There are respectful ways of having these conversations without being so secretive. As long as you approach them with an attitude to truly understand and learn, and not to attack or belittle their beliefs, someone should be comfortable sharing. Things are changing and moving away from the old-school secretive way they used to be. And surprisingly, I think the church is trying to put out its own version of educational videos. They don't come with personal experiences like this one, but hopefully, they will encourage more questions from kids who are thinking of going through the temple to learn what they are going to be doing. Less mystery will hopefully lead to less shock and confusion when they do go. And if they choose to go, to actually be ready to make the covenants they will be making. Things have changed so much even since I went through the temple in the early 2000s. I think it is a lot less freaky now, and I am glad they have gotten rid of a lot of those creepy things, some I experienced that they no longer do, and all of the ones I hear about from before my time. It is so much more basic and simple now, and leaves so much more room for first-time attendees to learn and feel the spirit without being distracted by all of the weirdness. I hope that parents can be more open with their kids and prepare them the way they should be actually "prepared", not just worthy. But if not, at least the kids can look things up on their own. There is quite a bit of info and videos on the church's website when you type garments or temple in the search bar. Way more than there used to be for sure. Here are a couple of them that I found. newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-updates-temple-garment-video www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/what-is-temple-endowment?lang=eng

[@colonelcrackerz2320]

Im a Mason and it sounds extremely similar. The fact Joe Smith was a Mason says it all. The meanings are different but the similarities in the phrasings and all the ceremonial stuff sound definitely Masonic ‘inspired’, not to mention the apron and the secret handshakes. At least with Masonic customs, all the odd stuff is explained to you multiple times, and even at my initiation most of the brethren even admitted that a lot of it it was just a weird formality. Sounds like Joe picked and chose whatever parts fit his agenda and left the bits about friendship and togetherness behind

[@user-gk-y8t]

Agreed

[@Thesortvokter]

Mason,huh? Congrats. Another load of controlling bull____.

[@mysterypro_music]

@mysterypro_music 0 seconds ago The question is, which came first? The Chicken or the egg? So which came first? The temple ordinances or masonry? JS joining masonry was only a catalyst for him to understand the difference. I can find scriptures in the Bible for just about most everything in the Mormon temple.

[@Vibeagain]

you're quite incorrect. "Sounds like" doesn't always drive that ball home, does it? Ps Agenda?

[@Thesortvokter]

Well, the criminal Joe Smith was a fraud, that's all well and proven beyond any shadow of doubt. Even mormons know this.

[@logicalchaos-]

I'm in the process of watching all your videos. My daughter, and her dad (my ex) decided to join the church after a missionary visit. (We're also in Louisville) My kids and I are not religious, so this was her first experience (I think she was 11?) She decided to be baptized and was mortified at the questions she was asked before, but went through with the baptism. I think she didn't stay with the church much longer after that since she saw the gender divisions, the fact that only men have leadership roles, and the fact that they don't support lgbtq. For her age, I'm so proud of her to arrive at that decision, without all of this extra knowledge I'm now learning. Thank you for sharing this with the world. I'm so grateful she made the decision she did. As a non religious person, I wanted to support her in exploring religion, and did not try to persuade her from participating. Again, I'm very grateful that you have shared this and I feel better knowing she made the decision she did. ❤❤ Keep speaking your truth.

[@Vikki.ledge987]

It sounds like you raised a very powerful daughter who can make up her own mind about things. Well done, you! 👍♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@kodasweet8425]

Women can't hold the priesthood, but we are in leadership in the different auxiliaries. We work together as a unit and support each other. We are not oppressed by our gender at all. It's not even a thing - really

[@arielharris8596]

This is great! I love that you're demystifying these garments and sharing your experience. I used to nanny for a Mormon family (lovely people) and would wash these while doing their laundry. I don't know how much they shared with their kids, but I certainly was kept in the dark about them.

[@Vibeagain]

Oh don't worry, you're still in the dark

[@GrammyTammy13]

Half of my family is Mormon and regularly go to temples everywhere like vacation destinations and I have always wondered about all of what you are sharing. Thank you I am almost 60yrs old and went to the church for a couple years and as a child KNEW IT WAS NOT FOR ME.

[@rhov-anion]

I was raised JW, and my brother left the church as a teen. I was stunned to learn that sometime after college he became Mormon... briefly. He studied, got baptized, he went through all the stuff to go to the temple, got his garments, learned the handshakes, and after his endowment, he went back to a secret room where another man was already sitting around. This guy glanced up, grinned at my brother, and said (surely jokingly) "Welcome to the cult." The whole thing freaked him out, like his eyes were suddenly opened and he realized he had left one cult just to join an even weirder one. He quit immediately.

[@PCB-dg7pt]

All these belief structures are designed to control and grow the numbers like any other business except they don't pay tax!!!

[@frithbarbat]

This was great. I lived outside SLC for five years and heard about garments, the veil, the secret handshakes etc but they seemed too bizarre to be true. Kudos to you (and your husband) for forging your own path and for making this video.

[@FlowerChild65]

Thanks for doing this. I had seen people discuss the garments and show still photos, but I had never actually seen the garments themselves. Your experience seems to be pretty common amongst ex-Mormons. It's wild to me how much information is kept from members. If folks want to know more, Jordan and McKay have some in depth videos on their temple experiences. There's also information on Mormon Stories and you can find video of the ceremony secretly recorded here on KZbin. The scenes in Big Love are accurate.

[@Vibeagain]

golly

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I grew up Mormon, and I didn't even know about temple garments until I was in college. I even lived in Utah for two years when I was in high school, it simply just wasn't something that anyone in the church talked about.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

Some things in The Church are so ridiculous that they don't even want to talk about them amongst themselves.

[@ninetailskwami]

wait, what?? i grew up mormon (exmo) and all i heard from my mom all the time was "my garments aren't showing right?🥺" and when i'd walk in on a parent on accident they'd be wearing the whole garment set lol

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

@@ninetailskwami I would occasionally see my parents wearing garments, but I just thought it was weird long underwear, not necessarily something that has to do with religion. They definitely never talked about it though.

[@mylesmarkson1686]

@@LockeDemosthenes2 Same here. I thought it was just the underwear that they chose to wear. I had no idea for years that it was commanded by their God.

[@DeJaVuCa]

It's partof our secrets. You'll learn in temples

[@annatlast]

I work with the elderly and often have to change them throughout the night. Sadly, one of my clients (102) was mormon and wore her garments. It caused her literaly pain everytime we had to pull those things down. I felt so bad for her. Wasted suffering.

[@rachelgroth7108]

It’s so wild that people never come to these realizations. You are doing a real service to those suffering in silence. I’ve always been non-spiritual, it’s so sad that people waste their only life “religion”. I’ve been really enjoying your videos!

[@Vibeagain]

oh the suFferIng!

[@kristinab1078]

Is it so "sad" that people acknowledge and develop the spiritual in their lives? It seems unfortunate that people limit their view and regard themselves simply as material beings with a mind and body, but no spirit or soul, but to each to his/her own.

[@terrik957]

I admire your courage ❤️ Thank you for explaining the meaning behind the garments….I always have been curious. Coming from a family with deep Masonic roots I’m shocked to see how much Joseph Smith stole from them. Seems to me like he should have written fiction instead of creating a religion 😵‍💫

[@Homepageturned]

Where did the Masons get there rituals from? Maybe the ancient Temples of the old and new testament? John the Revelator in the Book of Revelations says: "An angel shall fly through the midst of heaven and bring forth the Everlasting Gospel." What church claims this has happened and are living the prophesies of the Bible while all other churches are still waiting for all these Biblical prophesies to happen? And yet all these prophecies must come to pass before the Savior returns again and yet they are proclaiming he is almost here? "My people are a covenant making people" " My people are a pecular people" So righteous covenants according to this person is something she considers wrong. Those same symbols have also been found just outside the walls of Jerusalem where they believe the ancient temple was recently discovered.

[@charlesmendeley9823]

​@@HomepageturnedNo, Freemasonry developed it's final form in the 18th century. Anything dating back before that will not have anything related to the temple ceremony. The third degree of Freemasonry, connecting to the construction of Solomon's temple, is a 18th century creation. Similarly, Anderson's constitutions describe a mythical history, dating back to Adam, and these were written in 1723.

[@OscarFrosty]

fiction = religion...

[@ginamiller6754]

Joseph did write fiction!! Have you heard of the book of Mormon?

[@ginamiller6754]

@@Homepageturnedare you LDS?

[@cooldiscodan1992]

I’m impressed you were able to see through it all and come out OK walking away….keep up the good work in teaching the truth

[@xtiantube]

i have been loving your content lately!! the transparency is really important for getting other’s out of the church and for teacher people on the outside what is really going on. i just subscribed and i really am looking forward to more long videos like this!! this was really interesting and informative. thank you for sharing your story girl!! you’re amazing ❤

[@kristinab1078]

Is it REALLY important to get people out of their churches, synagogues, temples, and ashrams? Are people not capable of making decisions for themselves about their religious or spiritual lives?

[@rachelsuchla2408]

I am an active member and I’m perfectly happy with my life and wouldn’t want it any other way. I respect other people in their religions. We need to build people up and not down. There are wonderful people of all faiths and no faiths.

[@xtiantube]

@@kristinab1078 i think you misunderstood my comment. i said “the” church, as in “the mormon church”. i go to church every week haha i think church is great, most religious are great. but not mormonism. and like i said, this video is good for people trying to get out of the mormon church.

[@xtiantube]

@@rachelsuchla2408 i’m also an active member in my church haha

[@danniellebrown8996]

I had no idea about any of this. Thank you for your explanation and time doing this. I hope it wasn’t painful for you. I really admire your bravery and being so open

[@andrewfarrugia6072]

Don’t ask me why got dunked 15times baptism for dead made no sense two me when in London just another ritual

[@Vibeagain]

lol

[@FakeCrisRealTyranny]

God bless you for listening to your heart and mind, and setting yourself free.

[@torirochleau-rice8037]

Congratulations on escaping.I grew up in a city with many Mormons, and I knew many Mormon kids at school. I appreciate you sharing this information…I never knew.

[@dianefoster4472]

This was probably one of the better done videos. I’ve watched many but you give direct information with a great explanation without terms that everyday kind of people can understand. I am right there with you, this is a CULT and I’m glad you were able to say it like it is. Bless you friend.

[@Vibeagain]

a colt?

[@Vikki.ledge987]

​@@Vibeagain ???

[@TraciShirah]

Most religious organizations are cults, IMO

[@kayladrew7036]

My grandmother was buried in her temple clothes when she passed in 2017. Thank you for giving more information.

[@raeperry1972ify]

My grandma was also buried in her temple clothes. I always wondered why they had to wear them as well as what goes on. These videos are answering so many of my questions.

[@pixiesmama8807]

Thank you for having the courage to expose this for what it is. To give fair and unbiased information. I was from a Mormon generation where I was scared to stand up against the rituals I was brainwashed to do. You’re doing a great service. ❤

[@Vibeagain]

lol

[@tracienielson7183]

@@Vibeagain IKR. A lot of these comments are ridiculous. It's hilarious how people will leave the church, but then can't leave the church alone.

[@Vibeagain]

I certainly agree, @@tracienielson7183 Even from out here on my own looking in, I certainly agree

[@langleybeliever7789]

Amen to social media. Why all the secrecy?

[@tracienielson7183]

@@langleybeliever7789 Because sacred things are not to be made light of.

[@Juamo-tn8we]

I’m so glad that you’re free. I’ve always wondered about the garments. Thanks for explaining!

[@danielalvarado9019]

…when you took the first women’s garment out of the bag and showed us, my jaw literally dropped. 😳 I wasn’t expecting cute or even stylish but THAT? 😮. I mean DAMN. Just DAMN.

[@dale5497]

Because Jesus wore garments, right?

[@zacharysawyer6241]

Exmo here, I’m not sure what the parameters are for being endowed but I’ve known plenty of people that either didn’t get married or serve a mission that are endowed. I think it’s more the church like “well, you’re not doing anything else. Let’s get some magic undies for you.”😊

[@chlyri]

pretty much. anything to further indoctrinate them.

[@gismeecrestian8347]

I also know a bunch of people who aren't married or have never been on a mission and they are also endowed. I was looking for a comment that said this. The more video's i see about the church the more cultish it sounds which is weird to me, because it feels so good to go, but when you realise how many things they are keeping from you, it starts feeling very suspicious and kinda dark tbh.

[@kristinab1078]

@@gismeecrestian8347 Any religion or spiritual belief can sound cultish, depending how it's presented. For that matter, many secular organizations and affiliations (including political ones) can also seem very "cultish" in their insistence on holding similar opinions and worldviews.

[@LordC0mConsumerTheFirst]

​@@kristinab1078 and most of them are actual cults, they just have to much money and power.

[@Amariarv]

Really impressed by how you phrased the "for them it's literaly not true, you are not told about the temple endowment", talking about teenagers criticizing your videos. Absolutly right! Mormonism is a very innocent approach to religion when you don't know the details, but once you've gone through the temple you realize how culty it gets. I would precise, however, an adult member CAN recieve the endowment without the need of a mission or marriage. Not common, but still allowed.

[@InventiveBuilds]

It’s actually really common.

[@msullivan3531]

I converted, was never married in the temple, and didn’t do a mission but I had garments. I’ve since left the church though. I actually loved the Temple. It was wacky but the gorgeous room at the end was so relaxing.

[@lifematters687]

Yes they make it as beautiful as they can, spend millions on it. To simulate getting to heaven. To motivate you to stay with the church because they think they have the only ticket to heaven. Which is definitely not true.

[@ScarcasmIntended]

My grandfather was a bishop when my father was younger and he was one of the people in a horrible building fire that stopped at his garments. No real celebration for the successful skin graft in the early 60s when this happened that kept his arm functioning to this day, just a lot of praise to the garments for keeping the burns minimal.

[@tanyabrown9839]

were his garments made from wool? wood doesn't burn easily. There would be a big issue with nylon.

[@lindatohara6438]

God had control not the underwear

[@alison2649]

Wowwww. I can’t believe that they actually think God cares about this. The things that ppl do in the name of their religion. Wow.

[@helenweatherby1694]

Fascinating stuff. I don’t have a religious bone in my body, but I’m damned sure that JC did not demand that his followers should wear silly knickers.

[@theonionqueen3519]

lol I agree!

[@ScottFunk-us6ro]

Mormons have very little to do with Jesus of Nazareth. They assert otherwise, but they don't teach from the NT much.

[@ShoutItFromTheHousetops]

Jesus is the only covering I need because I’ve been forgiven and washed clean by His redeeming blood.

[@narelle2024]

I appreciate your videos. I was brought up Mormon, excommunicated at 18. But my mum is still very strong in her beliefs and church. It's also quite funny, learning about what she does at the temple. Now, I'm even more convinced it's nuts. Thanks for sharing.

[@kristinab1078]

I've learned about what various friends believe from chanting for hours and striking yoga poses to sitting in silence in a cold temple for an entire weekend while fasting. I guess it's different, but I can handle that it is their belief and choose not to refer to them or their beliefs as "nuts."

[@sallyannburke2607]

I was raised very conservative Catholic and was only allowed to wear clothes that covered the body in a similar way to LDS garments. I wore spandex knee length shorts under all dresses and occasionally shorter shorts. Classmates knew my family was religious and usually assumed I was LDS. I didn’t know why until I started casually researching religion and I thought it was kinda funny. One of my close friends even thought I was a Mormon.

[@merricat3025]

That's funny

[@tracienielson7183]

Your parents taught you modesty. They sound like good parents.

[@colleencrews9739]

It just sounds like you were raist to dress modestly as a kid. That's normal for most families, religious or not.

[@DrTune]

Sunshine is the best disinfectant; so glad you made this video. People raised by parents trapped in a cult deserve to see this and make their own minds up.

[@olivegreeneyedbeauty]

Grifters are gonna grift and the LDS church is one of the largest grifters there are. They charge money for these garments and to be a member to hold control over them. It's pretty disgusting.

[@merricat3025]

Richest church in North America

[@alyssahedelius1136]

You have to buy underwear from Walmart or any other store don’t you? So, why can’t a church sell the garments to members who choose to wear them? Garments are given for free to those who can’t afford them.

[@olivegreeneyedbeauty]

@@alyssahedelius1136 because their a cult who profits off the suffering of others. They are just as bad as walmart.

[@Patti-o1o]

Thank,you for taking your time and explaining...I have family that are mormon and I have so many questions. You are one special person...thank you again!

[@kaylynnhuddleston5533]

Its very respectful how you speak of the garments. I have a friend who is Mormon. We get along great. I don't agree with the religion, but I would not disrespect it. Abuse and powerful people in religion happens in all religions. This is you story it really helps to know things. Shrouded in secret names and under ware and handshakes starts out dishonest. Thats never good. I have never seen a Cross on a Mormon temple??

[@carolynsilvers9999]

How fortunate that you were insightful at some a young age. I was much older before digging my way out of a different religious cult.

[@lynhanna917]

Thank you for explaining this. In southern Alberta Canada there are a large number of Mormons and in the summer you are aware that people are wearing the garments but it is not talked about. Comments were made about Mormons having surgery and some people insisted on not taking the garments off. I look forward to seeing more of your channel.

[@talibytes]

The church is now encouraging all 18+ members to go to the temple, possible marriage or not, possible mission or not. I remember it used to have a pretty set requirement that the member was going on a mission or getting married

[@mellobun]

I think you're really strong and I appreciate you sharing your experience. And I admire your reasons for making this content so much.

[@7o7im7mmt7]

I'm Slavic, from Balkans. I'm east Orthodox Christian and this is soooo weird to me. Your channel is really fun, glad you got your freedom! Mormonism seems so culty to me. East Orthodoxy and Catholicism in Europe is way different than this. I've never been expected to wear anything specific. I guess some families are more religious than others, but I was expected only to wear a long dress to church (I didnt go often until I was old enough to choose to go there by my own) out of respect, but nothing more. No one judged me for the way I choose to follow my religion nor it was forced on me. I hope that everyone gets the freedom to believe or not to believe in whatever they want, thats what it's all about for me.

[@HomeEcSewing]

I was raised in the Mormon church and as a child was curious about the garments. I saw them in the laundry, as you mentioned, and I also saw my aunt's peeking out from the bottom of her culottes while we were gardening, but I didn't really get an answer from the adults in my life. My stepmom was sealed to my father and said the ceremony was "cringy" but other than that, I didn't really get any answers. Thanks for the explanation, even though I left the church in 1992 when I became an adult and got to choose for myself, and as you probably already know, had to leave my family as well. The missionaries still find me in every state where I've moved since then.

[@jonathanbrown9058]

You can go through the temple any time after you graduate high school or turn 18(I believe) it doesn’t have to be to get married or go on a mission but 90% of the time that’s what happens

[@jojojoseph282]

Yes

[@reallifewithali]

That’s what I just commented too.

[@raelynn75]

It’s shocking how many inaccuracies are in this video.

[@jolenedelilys2589]

You have to get a Temple "referral" or some such thing and fill out a lengthy questionnaire. It asks if you drink coffee and/or green tea and a multitude of other strict questions. If you can pass it or lie, you can get in.

[@reallifewithali]

@@jolenedelilys2589 🤣

[@samanthaharr9927]

thank you for this. I know very little about being Mormon, but have had friends try to describe their garments and their experiences that ultimately lead to them leaving. i believe everyones relationship to god/spiritual belief is a personal experience exclusive to each individual.. similar to a relationship between a child and parent.. as your siblings may have a totally different experience and experience love in different ways.. theres no one size fits all and that what makes sense to you personally is what is right for you. that its for you and no one else. others have their own journey... I've lightly studied theology as a hobby most of my life. the roots of religious concepts are fascinating to me.

[@Sidney.Stockwell]

This is cool to listen to cause my mom would actually tell me thing about it. I couldn’t stop asking questions, I was way too curious. But thank you for making these videos cause we deserve to know what we are signing up for

[@debbiestrang7774]

So thankful you chose to leave! Bless your heart. God guide you to truth and peace 🙏🏼

[@susanherman8967]

Thank you for sharing the cults ceremonies. I have Mormon friends and I never would discuss what they had gone through in the ceremonies. Now I know. Not religion at all.

[@AaronNickolas7]

I actually know of a 20 year old Mormon woman who has gone through the temple. She is unmarried and has not served a mission. She just wanted to go through the temple, so she did.

[@pezlover1974]

I snuck in with my host family when my oldest host sister was getting married. Nobody asked me for a temple recommend card. Good thing, because I’m an atheist I waited with the younger kids in the aula downstairs while the two set of parents attended the ceremony.

[@peacefulpep6164]

I grew up Mormon and all of this stuff sounds so new to me.

[@kirajobaldwin4520]

For the record: you can ask to receive your endowment (including garments) without serving a mission or getting married. It is a personal decision between you & the Lord for when you feel ready, just like mission or marriage. 👍🏻

[@mackenzieacree8665]

I had a good friend in high school who was Mormon, and when I asked he totally denied the "magic underwear" myth. Now I realize he literally just didn't know, and I feel bad for him that a couple years later before his mission he would find out that he was lied to.

[@skelley4081]

I remember seeing gatments like these, i just though the symbols were a bad sewing job.

[@emilysnow6757]

The endowment wasn't scary for me. But it sure was a let down. I'd waited all my life to see a video about Adam and Eve and put on goofy clothes??

[@charlesmendeley9823]

Plus it's the third iteration of what's already in the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham.

[@MettleHurlant]

I’m a skeptic, but I always thought that a supreme deity wouldn’t care about what I ate, wore, or whether I showed up to a certain building once a week. These are just ways the church leaders keep members in line.

[@ExploringWithRandR640]

Thank you for making this video- you answered many questions that I tried to ask Mormons in the past. They were soooo often offended by my curiosity.

[@rookmagorium]

I'm an ex-Pentecostal 23 year old, and the plain cultism of these specific religions is absolutely appalling. The funny thing too, is that my father was a fully fledged Taoist monk for 16 years before he converted the entire family to "Christianity." I was only 4 at the time, and the intense movement from calm and sane and loving while under Taoist practices, to the harsh and judgmental "perfect" religion of Christianity was absolutely maddening. I had to endure literal mental and emotional manipulation and torture for 16 years without really knowing why. And all under the guise of being loved by a "god" who hates gay people and will send you to hellfire and damnation if you didn't bow down and pray to him because he 'created life.' I have extreme night terrors and major PTSD because of the things that the church would put us through. I didn't get to cut my hair until I was 13 when I officially became a 'woman', and even then, they only let me trim dead ends, and I had to do it in front of high ranking officials of the church to make sure that I wasn't going to go to hell. I am so fucking thankful to know that I am not the only person who struggles with an ex-religion that was more cultish than it was holy.

[@ginamiller6754]

I’m so sorry about everything you went through! That was not Christianity. That was a cult!

[@ginny3219]

Yep. Got away from pentecostal church. Best thing I ever did

[@ginamiller6754]

@@ginny3219if you don’t mind me asking. Do you still believe in and follow Jesus?

[@merricat3025]

I don't know much about Pentecostal religion. Don't they speak in tongues and females have to wear dresses all the time? I wonder if there is ex Pentecostal KZbin channel that is like this one.

[@davidadams9391]

God doesn’t hate homosexuals. He hates the sin of homosexuality. A man shall not lie with a man as with a woman. God loves all people. (I am not Pentecostal, I just believe the Bible)

[@jcg03002]

Thank you for sharing, I am not Mormon and had never really considered how creepy it would be to learn your parents had been doing the temple ceremony for so many years. It seems dissonant to me (raised Catholic) that such a family oriented religion doesn't have kids participate in the temple or know about it. I would be really curious about your thoughts on that and look forward to learning more about the endowment. Just wanted you to know too that you have nevermo followers as well!

[@leesaattebur7622]

We talk about the temple all the time at home! My kids know a lot about it while they are young and even sing songs about it at church. They also see garments all the time ( boys see their dad in garments and girls see mom in garments, just like any regular underwear but more modest) As soon as kids reach the age of 11 turning 12, they also get to start attending the temple if they wish to do so. Never forced, always a choice.

[@kristinab1078]

Do Catholics have access to all the same rights and ceremonies at the same age regardless if they are prepared or not?

[@lifematters687]

Kids attending the temple from age 12 is a very limited experience - just to do baptisms for the dead and confirmations. They don't do any of the adult washing and anointing and other stuff.

[@tracienielson7183]

@@kristinab1078 Amazing, isn't it. People have such strong opinions about something they know little or nothing about. I find it amusing when people watch ex-mo videos and think they are getting the "truth".

[@flootzavut30daychallenge]

@@tracienielson7183if Mormonism wasn't so fixated on Secrets™, people wouldn't be getting all their information from ex-Mormons. Y'all brought this on yourselves.

[@kiss126]

Woow!! Thank you very much for sharing this, I was wondering about what the mormon magic underwear was. All my co-workers wear it, one of them was scratching all the time I guess it was itchy, since he was my friend (he passed away) I used to teasing him telling him that the garments were causing allergies (he was a converted mormon). Anyway, thank you for sharing this! It's very interesting! 🌷

[@jaynegilman2811]

Lived in Highland Utah early ‘90s. As a non member it was isolating! Long story but, the garments, went to the “stadium of fire” 4th of July celebration. The garments “peaking” out of the shorts of women were a status symbol showing how devout they were!

[@quinevere]

you are a fantastic presenter and explainer!

[@suzygray1241]

I’ve always thought of Mormonism as a big mystery. Thanks for demystifying it for me. Also, welcome to San Antonio! This is a great, very welcoming city!

[@audreymirandarusselman]

Yesss girl!!! I wanted to wear Mormon garments for Halloween as a costume last year when I first moved to Utah. I didn’t realize how serious it was though, so I kind of got talked down from it lol 😭

[@gretaworship1989]

Wish I’d been a fly on the wall for those conversations!! 😂

[@rosesbaker]

My immediate family left the LDS church before I was born. I am 75 years old and I have memories of my Great Grandmother -- she would not remove her "garments" completely during her bathing -- she would leave one leg on while standing and bathing, then put on her clean "garment" one leg at a time, etc and continue thru the whole process making sure she had some form of "garment" touching her at all times... 😢 (I was blessed to have her for many years -- I have pictures of her with my children with her = 5 generations)

[@angelafrisby3957]

That was crazy and totally her choice not what is expected. You take them off just like other underwear to shower, have sex, excercise etc.

[@Jessica-ht3tw]

thank you for answering so many questions. I appreciate you.

[@mikegirard4388]

The more I hear, the worse it gets. Having lived near Nauvoo, for almost 15 years, around a lot of Mormons, this reconciles the observations I made while living there.

[@norm5785]

Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia

[@sandip.7968]

Thank you for posting this informative, interesting video. I commend your courage for finally getting out of the clutches of that deceptive cult.

[@richatlarge462]

It's really not like that. You either believe the doctrine, or you don't. If you do, you live accordingly. If you don't, you don't. There is no deception involved. And it's a "cult" only as much as any group of people united by an idea is a cult. But young people usually aren't mature enough to understand this, and might feel familial pressure.

[@Natalie.D]

Wasn’t it true that back in the day Mormon women were not allowed to serve missions, only men. So that would mean that only married women at that time would have been able to get a temple recommend and get endowed and get garments right? Single Mormon women at that time would never have the opportunity to “move up” in their faith to get endowed or wear the garments and be protected. That’s messed up. Because single men could.

[@AnnaS-es2yr]

you don’t have to be married/go on a mission to get endowed. you can do it whenever you feel ready - and it’s not based on gender like this

[@mercury4885]

wait until you hear about how black men couldn't get the priesthood until the 1970s

[@Natalie.D]

@@mercury4885 yeah I knew that too. That’s also very messed up.

[@jojojoseph282]

​@@mercury4885that and the reasons they give for women not holding the priesthood always caused cognitive dissonance for me. I would ask questions because that's how they say God would answer my questions but I was never satisfied with my answers. They were always so vague and almost dismissive about how things don't add up. Just have faith - put your guard down.

[@emmawramsby6765]

I love your sweater! It looks great on you & so cheerful! 🌈

[@dianahenning8136]

My Mormon friends don't like them being called Jesus Jammies

[@motherhubful]

As a former Mormon and descendant of Brigham Young, I found out it was all a lie and after studying different religions and philosophies, I discovered that ultimate truth is found in Jesus Christ according to the Bible. I pray you discover the same❤️🙏

[@gretaworship1989]

Amen amen!!

[@theonionqueen3519]

You’re still indoctrinated, just a different flavor now. I don’t want to be condescending, but I really recommend studying more science! There are amazing scientists on KZbin, like Forrest Valkai, for example, who make learning science more accessible.

[@SeattlePioneer]

Science can be a cult, too. Indeed, with the dramatic increase in the funding and prestige for science, it has been corrupted like anything else. Not everything, but the power and prestige of science can be corrupted to get more money or impose "science" on those who aren't believers.

[@buildingamystery74]

I think it’s technically possible to take out your endowments without serving a mission or getting married. It is however unusual and borderline frowned upon. You would have to do a lot of convincing your bishop to allow it. There may be situations where someone never got the chance to serve a mission or marry and they find out they are sick or dying. That person may be allowed to take endowments and wear garments to live out their covenants. Mind you I’ve never been Mormon so I could be mistaken.

[@lindaholt5462]

Anyone over the age of 21 can choose to do the endowment. It is not frowned upon at all because if they are desiring to follow Jesus’ teachings and that leads them to the temple, it’s perfectly acceptable, considered a good thing. They simply go through the temple preparation classes, which have been around for years, as far back as the 1993, likely longer as older siblings of mine took them. These classes do prepare you and you are not taken by surprise once you go to the temple. Then after they go through the temple recommend process.

[@mercury4885]

ignore linda, all the temple prep classes tell you is that promises are important. from personal experience, the kids in my ward didn't get an explanation before we did our first baptisms/confirmations for the dead, and as an adult attending BYU they don't talk specifics about what happens in the temple either, even if you're actively preparing for a wedding or a mission. the garments, the handshakes, the surrealism, the feeling of being lost & confused when it's all said and done- the ritual of it all is sprung on you intentionally- it puts pressure on you not to back out. not in front of your peers and your church leaders, in front of your family, in front of god.

[@denafisher981]

Ummmm, I got my endowment prior to marriage. Just, saying. However, it's not encouraged.

[@buildingamystery74]

@@denafisher981 Was it a long time before your wedding, or was it a few weeks before? My understanding is that it’s usually tied to a major life transition which can place a lot of pressure on the member to make covenants that they can’t fully consent to. I’m sure there are some members who are very happy with their life inside the church, but there are problematic aspects to it.

[@denafisher981]

@buildingamystery74 I was returning to activity after having a child out of wedlock. I was also dating a man (not my baby daddy) with an eye to marriage, however while he was LDS, he had issues and was unlikely to ever go to the temple himself. We'd been married for about 4 years after my endowment before he got his. He's still a member. I left after he and I had been married for 20ish years. I'm 15 years exmo now.

[@hannahbarrett1221]

I grew up/ was raised in a very culty branch of what once started as Mormons and they just kept going more and more off the rails throughout time. After awhile the “actual Mormons” wanted nothing to do with us because we had so many differing opinions on things- one of the main ones being that we didn’t wear garments! This is so interesting to learn about since it wasn’t present in my “church” (cough “cult” cough cough) Some of our craziest rules: 1) Women were seen as far lower than Men! We had the choice to be a stay at home mother or a school teacher and were supposed to be as quiet as possible while always submitting fully to our husbands. (I literally remember my mother “teaching me” that once I was married nothing was up to my feelings anymore and I must say yes to every wish my husband had). 2) NO MUSIC. They gave us all a huge lecture in Sunday school about how “music leads to dancing and dancing is a metaphor for intercourse!” So music was not allowed in order to prevent us from dancing which apparently would make us think of having “relations” with each other 🤣🤣 3) there were public shamings! If someone in church had a secret that got found out, the preacher would have them stand up in church and the preacher would then talk about the secret while everyone watched. (And physical punishment was allowed! I once got caught using the lords name in vein and had my tongue pinched until it bled ☠️) 4) absolutely ZERO altering of your appearance in any way! People would get upset if one of the teens in the youth group dyed their hair to a second natural color 😅 (like lightening from brown to blonde) Bonus: my dad was a police sergeant in my home town and once had to work over time on a Sunday morning. To which the entire church decided “the devil called him away from church and now he was going to hell for not listening to god instead” 😂

[@AnshelBomberger]

I was a Job’s Daughter in Colorado. My dad was a 33rd Degree Mason. I often wondered what the ceremonial garb was just out the door leading into the actual floor where we did our ‘secret’ work. This next part is for you that were a Jodie,’ Open, Open. Open the gates of the Bethel, open the gates to the Bethel. (March, march, march). ‘Patience, Faith, Reward.’ I learned at the age of 46 that I was born Jewish and didn’t know it because I was adopted. I learned that the Sepharot (tree of life) is Kabbalah. Joseph Smith was best pals with an Orthodox Jew. Thus, lifting info taught from Kabbalah. I am not Mormon, but I have cousins in my adopted family that are. I asked why one of the Temple windows in Salt Lake had stained glass in the shape of the Star of David. Now after seeing your videos I know why my cousin heard my question, but refused to answer. She knows I was a lesbian and now I am living as a Trans man. I was born intersex. I left Judaism after the rabbi bullied me every chance he got. He offered a Zoom class on Gender Identity in the Torah, which I signed up for. When I went to the class he refused to let me in. I turned him into the State of Colorado, Civil Rights Division. I knew they would kick it back, because what is illegal everywhere else, is permitted for religious organizations. Still, his name is in the data base somewhere. Freedom of religion also means freedom from all the bullshit of any text. Obeying the text as a deity is Bible idolatry. Religion is abusive, especially for children. They are indoctrinated before they are taught to think for themselves and become critical thinkers. I think it is child abuse. Thank you for posting these videos.

[@AnshelBomberger]

* Jobie

[@KrisHughes]

This is insane! And it explains so much about the women I meet who have left Mormonism.

[@patz6689]

Please keep doing these videos. There needs to be more education about all aspects of all religions so people can make informed choices.

[@talesfromtheleashexpatdogl1426]

Religion is used to enrich the few while avoiding taxes. NOTHING MORE

[@toniebonilla3165]

This is not education just a reflection of hate and anger from someone who is exploiting.

[@ginamiller6754]

@@toniebonilla3165then why are you watching 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@toniebonilla3165]

@ginamiller6754 came up on feed. I watched a couple and felt the anger and hate. I have blocked but your reply came up. Accident. I don't watch but couldn't not say something. Not the church or the faith. But the humans that destroy the goodness found anywhere where people are trying to do good. This is just sad to feel the sadness and overwhelming hate from anyone towards anything.

[@toniebonilla3165]

@ginamiller6754 what I don't understand is not why have I watched. It was not intentional but why our society promotes and encourages this. We are no longer humans.

[@sydsmommie]

This may have already been said (and my comment will probably get buried), but you don't have to be going on a mission or getting married to go thru the temple for the first time. I chose to and I wasn't doing either, but felt ready for the temple. My bishop agreed and encouraged me to go.

[@remmylol]

i never knew they existed, i think i had saw my mom wearing them and i didn't realize it was religious related, i thought that was just something she liked wearing. it feels kind of betraying that i was never told about this. i asked today and my dad was extremely vague. thank you for explaining. i had also been in the temple to do baptisms for the dead and it's quite different to this, this is actually kind of scary

[@remmylol]

my dad said that it was something to help remind him of his covenants and faith. it felt very odd to me because i feel like there should have been any other thing to remind you of type things.

[@Hyenalowena]

Thank you for sharing this, I find it very interesting as it is so outside of my culture and way of life. I was not raised religious and grew up in a very liberal and not particularly religious area, so I've always been very removed from this stuff. I'm not religious but in general I am not against religion if a person finds it helps them and they do it in a loving way that isn't a facade for hate. My closest connection to Mormonism was recently: while out doing errands on a day I happened to look pretty femme and stereotypically "woman", there was a random church where some teens were offering a free car wash. Since my car badly needed one, I stopped. They were nice, and I offered to tip because I thought that would be the right thing to, but they seemed a little bit appalled (offended?) by that. Instead they asked if I liked board games and if I wanted a flyer for their weekly game night. I said sure, because that sounded nice. Even if I'm not religious, it's not like a church can't be a common meeting ground for community. My friends and I are super into D&D and tabletop so I was pretty into the idea of going, maybe meeting some new people, etc. Until I realized that it was a Mormon church and all interest disappeared when I realized that as a tattooed, pierced, openly bisexual lady, my existence was one giant sin to them so never mind :(

[@valaineperry]

As an evangelical Christian, thank you for sharing this. Mormonism is so hard to find out things about, and it’s SO CREEPY and CULTY and disturbing. I can understand how some would love the ritual and become enraptured, but that’s so against what Jesus taught. Yeshua tore down the religious falsities, dismembered the arguments of what the religious leaders burdened the people with. These are burdens. And Christ offered freedom. I hate that Mormonism, like many other groups, pretends to be Christian and twists the words of Jesus and claims to be from God, all while enslaving men to their rituals and expectations. Thank you for sharing. Shed light on that which is in darkness. Let the truth be known!

[@3Betanzos]

Jesus himself was observant of religious ritual. He is God and God does not change, so your reasoning does not quite add up. He established the fulfillment of ritual, through the Eucharist, His Life, Death and Resurrection.

[@citruswolve]

I hate to be the cat that tells you as an ex-evangelical child, I feel the same way about your religion as you do Mormonism. The rituals and teachings vary, but the underlying call to procreate and spread the word of a chosen deity to be the one and only are the same. Though my parents stated very similar sentiments about Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, and Mormons. I haven't seen any of them being all that different from the other for a long time.

[@jenelle5331]

They all look like this from the outside. Religions, I mean. Yours only doesn't seem culty to you because it's familiar. You were likely brought up in or around it from birth. As are Mormons.

[@reallifewithali]

I think maybe you need to do some more research to find what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is actually about. You seem to just be assuming. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@andrewfarrugia6072]

Every knee shall bow In revelations just wait when try force you worship antichrist and his world religion and currency beast system ain’t falling for it the strong delusion so strong that it’s actually pharmekia

[@J_paints]

😊Children are sometimes told that if a grown up tells you that you are going to do something that must be kept a secret, then be careful, get away from that situation right away. Abusers make you promise to keep secrets and often scare you to make sure you do. If something is good and right then it can be out in the open without fear or shame. If you can't let others know, there is probably something wrong with it. Trust your first impression and your gut feeling.

[@jeremiemarconicotra9736]

totally off topic but that ficus lyrata is MAJESTIC ❤

[@atlas7381]

Thank you so much for this. Unfortunately Im one of those kids, still in a mormon household, who does not understand these things. I lost my faith many years ago, and im lucky to have my dad as support for me. Whats crazy to me, is that I heard garments were like a thing in the 80s and didnt exist now. Until a few days ago when I was doing laundry for my mom and, again, everything changed. Thank you so much for making videos like this, I really appreciate being able to learn about things like this that aren’t talked about.

[@audrawells1383]

I feel like the 4th S should be "shitting" because that's nasty.

[@chlyri]

lol, the two piece ones could be pulled down. the one piece... there's a hole.

[@alyssadgrenfell]

Have you let you know this made me laugh so hard.

[@rebeccahaynie825]

My grandmother got mad at my grandfather and sewed the flap shut on his one-piece. He discovered it in an airport bathroom on a business trip. 😂 One of my favorite stories!

[@audrawells1383]

@rebeccahaynie825 ooh I like your grandma already! That's so clever too.

[@sparkieT88]

She said 3 "S''s , I thought: shit, shower, shave

[@user-px2dt6kh9r]

I was told that a year after I became baptized I could have my endowment. I still have never been to the temple. The proxy baptism concept kind of freaks me out.

[@matthewoakley2886]

He wants to be excommunicated? I've never met your husband but like him already. Also, the more you talk, the more I'm glad my parents are godless heathens. When I told my mom I was going to burning man, she said if I wasn't 67 I would go with you.

[@fortunekader9121]

Your mom and my mom would be fast friends 🔥

[@Xenia_YZ]

I am an atheist and it is what it is! I think that I would love your mom as I, too, want to go to burning man but feel too old. 😪

[@susanfrancis3892]

What is burning man?

[@lescroozin]

I like listening to Ayssa Grenfell her videos always helps to put me to sleep at nights 🙂🙃

[@DonnaLena1]

I’m grateful that you decided to educate us on many personal aspects of Mormonism. I hope that you are not under threat from the church or it’s minions.

[@declareddave]

I used to drive by the Mormon temple in Louisville/Pewee Valley all the time. I still have family that lives out near there. Sad you had to go through the trauma of this cult. Glad you are able to speak out about it.