My First Impressions With Patch 7.3

[@lyricalfroge5219]

9:30 They should make old bosses drop some of the catch-up currency, that way people will gear quickly enough to experience the latest content, while still having an incentive to go back to old raids.

[@Relbl]

Shit that is actually a good idea - nice! I guess the incentive so far was chances at leggo drops, but not that guys with mains since day1 prolly have all their leggos already that won't cut it...

[@bonestryke5391]

Damn. What a good idea

[@boots911]

That's actually a good idea. Make it to where if you have a fresh 110, ED drops the most tokens for gear. After you get past like 865, make it to where nighthold drops the most tokens for gear. ect. and they don't even have to be 910 tokens, Just like 10-20 ilvls higher than what the raid would've dropped already.

[@PILAVGAMES]

My favorite thing about 7.3 patch is the death of Khadgar

[@dafire9634]

PILAV Are you sure about that!

[@ukranianmouse1331]

Nice vid u did peelove

[@yzyszn3774]

PILAV stop making fun of asmonbald u gay pealove love ur vids btw

[@ch3feri]

my favorite thing about 7.3 patch is the death of turalyon

[@godless89]

Asmongold is a Withered.. :D

[@johnpersona721]

Why didn't Asmongold cross the road? No path available

[@rasmus6524]

John lol

[@johnpersona721]

Wow top comment, Thanks

[@Clouds23x]

I really liked those harder mobs with interesting mechanics on Timeless Isle. I really miss some challenging elites :( I find all those mobs in Legion really boring and pointless when you can just pull half the map pop cds and kill everything and end up with 100% HP.

[@BJMcB92]

They tried scaling the mobs to your ilvl to make it so you weren't able to pull every WQ mob or elites and people flipped shit and QQ'd about immersion or some bullshit, Blizz can't win with their own community

[@Giondi]

It wasn't immersion, it defeats the entire point of RPGs. If mobs get stronger as you gear up, what's the point of gearing up? Just have everyone stay level 1 with starter gear if the difficulty is going to stay the same anyway. Just having numbers automatically adjust so you always deal the same percentage of the mob's health with your abilities is a lazy way of keeping a challenge. The Timeless Isle elites had mechanics you had to follow that kept it somewhat interesting, just having everything be a damage sponge is boring.

[@Troy2Slick]

It's not the same though. I notice a HUGE difference fighting them when my power increases versus to when I was 50 ilevels lower. If you can't tell the difference, that's a you issue.

[@Unh0ly0ne]

Flying is not needed on Argus, the zones are so damn tiny and you can make good use of parkour again.

[@ilyushka00]

Firaga The smokes and mirrors of Argus would not make it possible to fly from one zone to the other without breaking the illusions. I wish Hayven was still with us, may he RIP. He would definitely have made a vid about it and why flying was not implemented.

[@pontusnordin2343]

ilyushka00 That hits hard...... so true

[@Omgoldrakanthiled]

I like argus so far. It is what is is. Just a new place to do dailies but I'm always excited when there are new mounts to be gained. I do agree that it kind of sucks that the way they add catch up gear to the game makes it where you don't have to do the first released raids but hey it's good for Alts I suppose. I've become much more casual with the game and do appreciate being able to be decently geared without having to dedicate to hardcore raiding

[@Dos_Caffeine]

Brandon Pope now this is constructive criticism and a valid one too rather than the whole "wow is dead" comment.

[@rasmus6524]

Brandon Pope And New Achievements

[@Shr3zzor]

wow is dead

[@scottdavis9882]

u wot m88 lol u calling wow dead is like me saying ff14 has more players. neither one is factual so please, think before u speak

[@Troy2Slick]

Damn, I guess I should let the millions and millions and millions of other people know that, so they can stop playing. Thanks for the heads up, little kid.

[@selo5324]

The 2 biggest problems I have with Argus are firstly, that I think this time gating BS with the storyline has gotten really old very fast. When the patch drops, I want to play the entire storyline for it right away. Second, and this is minor, I want more of the portals spread out across the zones. You gotta run really far to get to either of them atm.

[@Troy2Slick]

More open up soon and the entire process is 14 days, day 7 is already here, it's not that big of a deal.

[@selo5324]

It is a big deal when a developer says there is going to be loads of content to do when the patch drops, and 1 hour after I start, I'm already done everything available.

[@TheOdMan]

I would like to recommend to ppl riding around farming rares and chests, use Stonehide Leather Barding, so you will be immune to daze, Fighter Chow so u regenerate you hp quickly when out of combat, and if you can get your hands on it, a Greater Blessed Bandage for a 30 min buff that regen 5% of your health every 3 second. Using these 3 items made farming in Argus from being a real hassle to being a complete cakewalk for my Shadow Priest.

[@Troy2Slick]

It's nice to see some constructive feedback, thanks for that.

[@pravdavitezi588]

Or just play tank and equip Prydaz.

[@soshspotgames4380]

i feel like this Patch is really like anything in any game. it's the idea behind every game, regardless of which "patch" or "expansion" you're playing. If you take advantage of, and participate in, all the different kinds of content available, you'll have a wider variety of things to do and thus feel bored less quickly. If, on the other hand, you're the type of person that just really likes one specific thing and you're not so interested in anything else....well...i mean what can ya do? You're probably going to get bored pretty quick doing just that one thing over and over. I mean...any kind of MMO anywhere....what's the basic groundwork? You quest to level to max level. You hit max level. You now do different kinds of quest and group content. You chase after gear, achievements, rankings, titles, progression, whatever, etc. It's all the same. Branded and packaged and presented perhaps a little differently for each MMO, but ultimately, it's the same. In the end, you either like the game World of Warcraft and all it has to offer....or you don't. Nothing wrong with either thing. The first 6 days of this patch, I divided my time amongst 4 different 110 toons. I went to the old Cata raids to farm the new pets. Some i sold for an obscene amount of gold and some i kept. I went to Argus on all four and unlocked everything. I farmed leather, ore, herbs, cloth on each alt in turn, having a slightly different experience each time. I captured all the new wild pets in Argus. I battled and defeated all the Pet Battle Elites I could find. I battled and defeated all the rare and elite mobs i could find. I joined a group to kill 2000 demons and got a mount. I got new recipes for crafted gear and started working towards making those. I did a couple random battle grounds. I did my 5 timewalking dungeons on a couple toons. I did some mythic + on some other toons. I progressed a little further in Mythic ToS. I went back to my Garrison for the first time in ages to farm mats to make loads of Goblin Gliders. I dusted off my ground mounts and invested heavily in leather barding. Overall......I'm loving my time in the game. But then again, I always do. Because I do literally everything the game has to offer. This weekend, I won't play the game at all. I'll take a break and catch up with TV shows. I'll play sand volleyball with some buds tonight and have a family barbecue tomorrow. I'll clean house and do laundry and run errands. I'll come back to the game Monday fresh and eager for more. :)

[@scottdavis9882]

Hannah Eli Edgin dude, i love this comment. i been playing since van and i have always felt this. entitled brats need to just shut up and if they really hate wow, go play ff14 or gw2. if its making ur life that bad, just stop. easy right. did i mention i loved the comment lol

[@Ziseth]

At least they are keeping dungeons relevant for the first time ever, so yeah. Getting 650 Veiled Argunite takes quite some time, and you can literally spam +9 dungeons which also drops 910 items, and get much much faster loot. (obv you can't pick the exact slot) My biggest complain by far about Argus, is the treasure chests, having a timer once someone loot it. After loosing 8 chests that vanished when i approached them and in 2 cases even while i was opening them, I had to log off in order not to give general chat a reason to report me...

[@jonlabarbera2011]

Hey man, I really like this patch. You mentioned how getting the 910 gear kind of defeats the purpose of running the older content in the expansion. You see, as a casual player, it is much more fun for me to be able to kind of catch up and run current content because my item level is more appropriate. I don't have the luxury of playing every day. I want to ask your opinion on the emperyium ore farm an antorun wastes from basilisks. What are your thoughts on primal sargerite?

[@Starwar100]

With the Unsullied gear being a Blizzard account bound item, you can mail them to your other accounts. By the time they level up to 110, they can instantly gear up with ilvl 880 Unsullied gear.

[@kds6992]

if you can get the tokens to drop and for right gear type.

[@Joeyfield0]

one bad thing about patch: quest not appearing. If I'm going on the PTR and report 6 different times of a quest not appearing, then why add more quest not in the PTR only for some to get stuck because they don't appear? Surly this will be fixed, I'm not saying they're terrible, just really bad luck and testing I guess.

[@buldren0101]

I don't mind not flying on Argus, it kinda makes sense storywise, we're on the Legion's world where they have ships and cannons pointing in every direction, and from a gameplay perspective, it's better to learn the layout of the land without the ability to fly and it's not like we'll be on Argus for very long, I'm better next expansion will come out next Spring.

[@dabagonsmith]

My main argument for flying on argus is the fact that some areas are a pain in the ass to traverse. Really love aesthetic of it, but actually getting around can be a pain in the ass or getting to that one chest that you can't just figure out. Great patch though, glad I came back to the game when I did.

[@overinfinite5257]

I like what you did in the week before 7.3 with the old content farming dungeons for transmog & blacksmithing & stuff.

[@Huntcho]

hit this spot on, just hit 110 on on my warrior a week ago and now I'm 905 ilvl literally 0 point in going back to EN etc

[@bitJester]

I think the only annoying thing for me about 7.3 is the map indicators for the rare/elite spawns. It's never really clear how to get to some of them without the use of WoWhead. Outside of that I believe it to be one of the better patches I've played so far.

[@WowForYou85]

Its so easy to get geared in legion now, in 8 hours i went from level 108 to having 51 traits and being 875 ilvl.

[@WASP79]

After noticing those A1 bottles in the background ...I'm guessing you can Dual-Wield in steak eating stance?

[@StalxD]

Have u found the Lucid Nightmare mount?

[@sean6793]

How did the fact that doing old raids is one of the best way to get legendaries skip your mind? I've done EN ToV and NH at least a hundred times each on every difficulty this expac. I definitely feel they are relevant still

[@liamdalton79]

How many rares did you kill before you got the Vile Fiend, and what rare dropped it?

[@imbazed22]

Maybe they could add "old raid challenges" where you need to do full EN M as a small group maybe with some mechanic modifications. And as a reward you get a mount :D

[@host.]

personally, fuck old raids. I don't wanna go back to EN or Nighthold. I'm glad those are over. after farming something nonstop, at some point you just can't stand it anymore.

[@xlsaitama8597]

what is the addon called, the item previewer thing when the mouse is over the item

[@boots911]

I agree about the catch-up mechanics.. I'm a pretty casual player, but my main is ilvl 915 (and was before the patch) . Now if someone hits 110 on a fresh alt, there's no reason for them to do anything pre 7.3. Besides a mythic +10 every week. Nothing is stopping them from coming in and getting 910 gear in 12 hours /played on their fresh 110.

[@Mallerky]

Thing to remember is the welfare 880s and workable 910s are intended for a game with Antorus in it, which would get people to the very basic level of being able to raid that. Although yeah right now it does seem too high an iL

[@Crenshaw41]

the prior tiers were already out of the gearing cycle

[@linkkie3]

Can confirm, my mage bought some 850 stuff from the AH with a legendary at 101, by the time he was 110 he was ready for ToS LFR, few days of doing world quests / gathering treasures on the broken shores later he was doing ToS. I did ToS HC with reasonable dps after 6 days of /played, without boosts of exp potions. WTF Blizzard.

[@Troy2Slick]

Then you'd cry if it took you 3 months to catch up to your friends if you hadn't played all expansion. It's called catch-up mechanics, they've had this every single expansion and patch since BC came out. Are you new to the game or something?

[@FranckyCrazy]

Asmongold, where do you find the time to do all the raid since the beginning of Legion, in one week in a casual guild ? Its impossible, the catch up mechanic make also them resell subscription. I would not come back in a game and be at 850 iLvl when other people are at 920 and dont want to play with me

[@wtfeverbroski]

On WoD mounts... Wolf, Clefthoof, Riverbeast... you forgot BOAR! BOARlords of Draenor.

[@cristianbernal8009]

Your argument for the gearing path is really just a nitpick. LFR Nighthold and Halls of Valor completely got rid of Emerald Nightmare outside of it can add to your legendary BLP. This just further pushes it. with the TF and legendary system, you are still enticed to running the older patch raids just not solely for gear upgrades. There's also the Balance of Power farming that forces you to go back anyways.

[@Turon69]

i am a very causal player nowadays due to family life and I am actually glad u can buy items ilv910 from vendor. I know this makes olders tier raids obsolete but hey, not everybody can raid and most of raiders already spent hours in EN, ToV etc and they are now in Tomb and there is a new raid coming soon, so they will get a higher gear from the new raid anyway, At least people like me can gather a decent gear from vendor playing solo and not being forced to raid. For perfect gear and rolls you would go to newest raid anyway or mythic + and so I really think this is good idea that these items are 910. I understand your point of view but who would go to EN for gear anyway if the items were lets say 880. You would still buy them from vendor or would go to LFR tomb. EN is for achivs or transmogs. As far as I remember usually when the new patch comes out the older tier raid becomes obsolete and nobody goes there for items anymore

[@mlaurence08]

I agree with the 910 item level comment; additionally, they bumped the item levels for dungeons but not raids..... it just doesn't have the feel of a solid decision.

[@kds6992]

910 would be fine when antorus is open and tomb no longer current but its indeed a bit high compared to current raid. though i dont mind it to much.

[@isaacfransen6391]

Wait hasn't Emerald Nightmare been irrelevant since Tomb LFR came out? 885 gear from ToS LFR vs 880 gear from EN M

[@Hesiodzz]

Make a guide for the Lucid Nightmare mount plz!

[@CynthiaRoseK]

emerald nightmare useless ? it stil increases your badluck protect for legendarys right ???

[@Analysoija]

The thing i like about Argus Is that not mobs Have alot More health now, so its not like Solo world content all The Time, which for me makes The zones feel More alive

[@chrisazzaf7078]

Why would people watch porn when they could watch Asmongold?

[@Scar95x]

Porn --> Asmongold any day.

[@louisb8672]

because they aren't gay maybe

[@yungjuicebox1335]

Louis B some people watch gay porn tho

[@louisb8672]

so what..

[@yungjuicebox1335]

Louis B The gay people watch the gay porn AND asmongold

[@RandooTV]

its only week 1, but i love how you can spend so much time on Argus, and not get bored. Not sure if i'm the only one feeling that way, but i'm seeing forward to the rest of 7.3

[@Hazard2005]

I don't want to do older Legion raids other than for transmogs...

[@candymahn5394]

It felt like an expansion to me too. Hope the staggered release quest content keeps novelty fresh.

[@Mrfiufaufou]

What I hope from next expansion is that there will always be a reason to go to old raids. ilevel should not jump up so much in each tier.

[@Xirokox]

What's the addon name that shows you the frame of the mount you just earned?

[@DanielEspelidPedersen]

That's in the default UI, got added in 7.3 for mounts and pets.

[@Xirokox]

Ah thanks

[@slinkbradshaw3082]

imagine having legacy servers for every xpac to play after u finish weekly raids/ pvp on main xpac... never run out of things to do.

[@benkalem]

Re Playing the Patch vs Playing the Expansion: Unless they allow us to upgrade old tier gear, it's gonna be pretty much impossible to keep older raids relevant in regards to gear. So, some kind of combo of Valor Points + Obliterum might do the trick. Considering how many difficulty levels each Raid has combined with the Mythic+ Dungeons, that all makes the reward structure a difficult thing to do in a way where problems won't arise. I'm not sure if there is a good solution to it, unless people suddenly stop caring about their precious iLv and Blizzard comes up with a more varied pool of different types of rewards.

[@cmennare]

I also am having a good time with this patch. I would like it if Blizzard could somehow incorporate the old currencies into new. For example exchanging nethershards for veiled argunite, it doesn't need to be on a 1-1 basis, but as it stands right now all of the nethershards collected are useless and that is demoralizing.

[@deathblade909]

Is there any more quest this week? I don't babt any more . Last quest I got is from a dude to do follower mission

[@TheSpartan88888]

The mounts are nice, i think the gear looks great as well even for a transmog if not for the Ilvl.

[@Isaac-be9yn]

What type of computer do you use ??

[@bruceduffy1562]

I really like the new patch apart from the roadblock u get when u try to progress in the story, basically if u dont have 6 champs at ilvl 900 u can't go any further until they're at that lvl which is just annoying for new players wanting to play the new patch

[@alexisk1615]

Bruce Duffy wtf they added a way to upgrade your championship DIRECTLY to lvl, 900 and you are whining

[@Strrroke]

Bruce Duffy also you can buy a set of 880 champion gear for 400 nethershards

[@bruceduffy1562]

Alexis K u need to unlock that u can't purchase it rn

[@bruceduffy1562]

Геннадий Харитонов yeah that's what im doing

[@Skeltano]

New players like u are ruining the game

[@Vermy_NO]

I find it kinda boring, I like the story and cinematics, but doing more WQ on argus isnt really fun, hunting mounts is ok tho.

[@jf4156]

Zansirtheshaman yeah it's the same old thing time after time, it's a shame :(

[@LrdZanny]

sharv88 what the hell would be "different" for world of Warcraft (at least pve) that the next expansion should implement? This game has been around for 15 years and has always been quests, grinding, dungeons, and raids. If you don't like it by now 7.3 and the next xpac will probably disappoint.

[@Troy2Slick]

Why would the next expansion pack be ready? They have a release cycle of patches every 77 days since a year ago. It has nothing to do with whether it' ready or not, we've known for a year now that we were going to Argus in patch 7.3. Are you new or something?

[@tommyolsen2399]

Well you see that problem as a good geared toon with no alts. Imagine going trough all the old raids. How in the world are you gonna plan to join an ap farm group EN with 850 ilvl.. Its good that they add catchup-mechanics. So you dont have to beg to join a raid

[@Achille12345]

What made the Timeless Isle good was the good atmosphere and music it was peaceful and being there could make me relax a bit, I could just stay there doing nothing watching people fight the 4 world boss while eating something it was fun. The area wasn't annoying with endless monster in your way with mountains paths with maze it was simple and well made. The difficulty was not too hard and not too easy and the rewards were really good for casual players in general. The only bad side I could think of is there wasn't many daily quests to do (But you could farm rare all day), the isle was kinda small and on PVP server you could easily abuse and manipulate the stupid guards to kill people but hey that's just me I hate PVP. lol Argus is the complete opposite of Timeless Isle when it come to annoying area it's really annoying, but the atmosphere is good and you do feel the danger this is one thing they did well but I can already tell that my favorite will remain Timeless Isle and Argus will just become like a chore at some point. I won't stay on Argus to chill out as I did with Timeless Isle that's for sure.

[@masalps]

I gotta say I don't think the basic artifact sword matches with that set very well. Mage tower skin is way better for it.

[@pirate1197]

As a training court stenographer I find your videos excellent to "pratice" speed writing to as you're a fast, fluent talker.

[@tehdz]

I think it should be taken into consideration not everyone raids and 910 is reasonable given that fact and I feel if someone wants to increase their item level through raids they will continue to do so.

[@lehfeldt1]

to be quite honest i havne't played patch 7.3 yet....you said my class was for old dudes on stream so I rerolled a warrior

[@lehfeldt1]

I was a afraid I would get no girls if I continued down this path.... thank you

[@RandomGamerCory]

7.2 most people thought the patch was shit and no content lol

[@boots911]

One thing I don't like about this patch is how the order hall work table is incorporated into the campaign.. I literally haven't touched that since day 1. Because it's a useless feature.. Now I apparently need to get my follower's ilvl up to 900 when I don't even have 1 at level 110.. And now i'm gonna be stuck at that part for the next week or two.

[@Troy2Slick]

It's not even part of the main story and isn't even mandatory, it's just a side mini game to do if you like doing missions, that's it... that's all.

[@boots911]

Yes it is mandatory.. Have you done 7.3? It is mandatory to finish missions which require ilvl 900 on your followers. I don't even know what that means really, but I need to do it to finish the campaign.

[@huliog6055]

Is buying Legion now would be a mistake? How much time does it take to get to the next expansion? Half a year?

[@Relbl]

Granted I knew the path to inside out, just before 7.3 I could get from 100 to class mount and 890+ in four days, and it only took so long because parts of the Broken Isle chain were time gated (12 WQs on Broken shore, a follower mission that took minimum 8hrs)... Now with 7.3 they made all that shorter and the gear higher. So if you got a week to spare you could be ready to crush ToS normal if you buy now lol

[@huliog6055]

Relbl Thank you for your answer,this helps too,and I wanted to know about how long would it take for blizzard to end legion and make us buy another new expansion?

[@huliog6055]

Like,approximately

[@grafspe807]

FFS i dont want to have to run my 15th toon through all the old raids just so i can get gear for them . At this point of an expac there is reason you cant have catch up gear

[@Troy2Slick]

I think my brain died a little after reading that. You can gear up going through old raids in Legion, doing dungeons, Mythic Keystones, World quests, Broken Shore 850 gear, Argus 880 gear or 910 gear. Cry more?

[@grafspe807]

Yea you can gear up old raids but Asmund suggests that they should not have catch up gear , it makes the old raids irrelevant . I dont want to have to run the old stuff on my 15th or so alt . Sending the 880 stuff to a low item level alt is fine at this point of an expansions life. Im nit sure what you are trying to say

[@gurkplanta9695]

What I hate about argus is that it is tooooooooooo small, you can't walk 1m before you aggro every single mob in the zone, and then I get dazed. Make roads great again!

[@meataxenarll]

Regarding loot ilvl and having people still want to play Emerald Nightmare and other raids.... all they need to do is increase the ilvl of the loot... simple! Best way to do it though... release the new raid (ie, Tomb of Sargares), then after maybe 1-2 months, "then" increase all loot ilvl from previous raids.

[@SevenDollarPretzel]

My solution for the obsolescence of old raids would be giving them their own specific valor-type currency.

[@Dukky1230]

Not sure about Mac'aree, but the other two zones feel very small and repetetive. Did everything that is available now (with the time-gating...) and got sick of it within a day. They could try to revolutionise as the Timeless Isle felt back in MoP.

[@oshjames9648]

Isle of Thunder was also a very great patch, it felt complete it a lot of ways, I'm very sick of blizzard with time gating their patches.

[@ModeKaioken]

🔥Here is the problem with Argus flying🔥 The issue is the stuff you can make with the materials isn't worth the time. You could potentially farm new herbs for 1 hour and make almost no profit compared to farming for Starlight Rose. That with the fast you can fly to gather starlight makes the farm not even conceivable unless your doing it for personal progression in your prof. To fix this they either need to increase the spawns of new materials so walking around you have the potential to farm a value that would match a worth while herb or decrease the cost to make the new stuff over all. Right now though a new demon bonus damage flask costs multiples of what a useful stat flask does and is a lot less effective. So if it is meant to be a cheap alternative you can use for farming then the herb drops or spawns should match it. If we fix the materials then flying won't matter but being able to fly and gather stuff of greater value on broken isles is a problem. Summary 1 increase available spawns to farm from 2 lower cost of new prof stuff to make 3 balance it to the items value (if demon damage flasks are a WQ flask then the farm and cost should match that)

[@mortenjusk]

they could increase the ilvl in EN+ToV and NH.. like EN+ToV lfr could drop 875 loot and NH 880 loot.. normal/heroic/mythic could be 5-10 ilvls higher per difficulty step. they are increasing ilvl in dungeons and WQs, to keep it relevant, i dont see why they dont do the same with raids.

[@Donk3y-K0ng]

1:22 - 1:28 "And Warlords of Draenor storyline seemed like something that they hired deviant art fanfiction writers to do" LOL RIP

[@KosmataBradva]

Cucking the artifact relic upgrade oven to week 3 is one of the many things that makes me abduct children from playgrounds.

[@Forty2de]

those of you who've "heard that the patch is meh", remember that only 1/3 of the world content and campaign has been released, and the raid hasn't been released either. There's not much out yet to judge the patch by.

[@akse]

I really agree with the ilvl increase. Blizz has gone from making previous expansion content obsolete to previous patch content obsolete. Now we even have new patch area only crafting materials and cloth and such making "all" that you colleceted from Broken Isles "obsolete" ... Other than that I've had some fun there. Tho I came back after long break so I had so much to do in the Broken Isles as well.. can't catch up :(

[@TheSpartan88888]

Got one of the mounts after my very first world quest, i was happy lol

[@rssiya2601]

why don't they make old raids just drop 900-905 on lfr then, you can buy 910 anyways

[@SmokerFace12]

1 thing I miss in legion is some sort of farmable currency like emblem of frost or valor points, would be nice if any mythic dungeon boss kill gave a small amount of them, even in mythic+, like if we can farm world content for 910 gear then why not get rewarded for doing older pve content while on the same time having to rely less on RNG. Besides that, the broken shore and world pvp (instanced pvp is not that bad), i think legion is a very solid fucking well done expansion.

[@bigjobby11]

Where have u gone?

[@DamienBoath]

Argus is just Timeless Isle 2.0 with a legion skin. Hasn't amazed me just yet.

[@VeryOxygen]

Hey Asmon, I fully get what you mean when you talk about the old raid content being made redundant, and people having no reason to do EN and NH. But imo they've done well by keeping it relevant by needing to do them for the Balance Is Power questline for artifact skins. Also for druids that get one of their skins off Ursoc. Like I get what you mean, but it's still a step in the right direction compared to previous expansions.

[@micronisgaming8160]

Asmongold have u got the demonslayer title?

[@jaiguru9538]

You haven't made an economy video since WoD! We could really use some pointers, especially for mining/blacksmithing. It's a lot harder to make money out there now than it's been in years.

[@diovania1255]

Asmongold, I get where you're coming from with wanting the raids from earlier in the expansion to stay relevant with the gearing process, but at the same time, you're in a unique position where you can get any group together that you want, and you're part of a guild that raids mythic and mows down through normal modes and heroic with little difficulty. Not everyone is in the same position as you, this expansion is un-alt friendly enough as it is, if I had EN, ToV, and NH all to go through on each individual character before I could even set foot in Tomb, that's just three more hurtles to go through that makes the game less fun for me. I'm not on a server where there's a wide variety of raiding guilds, I can't just pop into the only mythic team on my server as a melee DPS when they need ranged. I don't have the luxury of being able to go through each individual tier and have someone carry me through it, and I'm sure plenty of other people are in that position as well. The requirements to join pug groups in the group finder are ridiculous enough as it is, people want 920 - 930 baseline to enter heroic ToS half of the time, and won't even invite you unless you've got AoTC. Forming your own group is usually 50/50 and requires a lot of effort to screen out the baddies, and now thanks to this patch I can slowly grind up to 910 baseline or higher thanks to the new catch up system, and get into those elitist groups who actually clear the raid each reset day.

[@oshjames9648]

I think the problem with premade finder trying to require 920-930 ilvl is because the slew of players who are below that ilvl are usually mentally retarded which is a shame. People even at 920+ can still be idiots and dont get me started with people from Ragnaros, quelthalas, goldrinn, etc its horrible

[@RossardJames]

The story stuff so far has been awesome. And I think Argus is a really cool looking zone (great music is good too). It isn't mind blowing or anything, it's like an improved Broken Shore. But it's enjoyable so far. And I'm like you, I don't honesty care that much about flying either way.

[@Polopollo75]

I'll say it cuz I know you'll read it, here is my thought about Argus: While I love having new content, People get crazy for a "whole new planet that is so awesome" while it is barely 3 zones, all gray, horrible way to move through it. Once I am exalted with these 2 reputations and have my netherlight cruxible, I will have no reason to go there. And I cannot enjoy an area's design if I can't see it (Flying in legion made me appreciate so much more the broken islands!!). Right now my alts that are neither tanks or have Pridaz won't set foot there.

[@Troy2Slick]

I've taken an Arcane Mage and Shadow Priest through all of Argus. The terrain is faceroll easy to navigate, none of the mobs are difficult. The zones are tiny, no need for flight.

[@rackkarungen]

Asmongold what happened to this week in warcraft? miss it

[@ariannamvar3472]

I miss getting weapon drops in dungeons and raids.

[@dabylon6280]

Wait, so do you like grinding all the old raids for insane titanforging or don't you? I would imagine that 880/910 gear tokens would inhibit people from banking on those crazy EN rolls.

[@uhmike6098]

I think you said it exactly right. It feels like a mini-Expansion.

[@loky4000]

The only thing I like about Argus are the cinematics, it's complete ass from a gameplay perspective. Ugly jagged landscape with mobs everywhere, chests that despawn the moment you get in range, excessive amount of catch-up mechanics and on top of that it's time-gated. They could have just spawned another island near the broken shore and it wouldn't have made any difference, we're on a foreign planet and almost nothing about it looks unique or interesting just more of the same neon green on black.

[@Sammonoske]

Patch 7.3 didn't invalidate doing old raids, Mythic+'s ever increasing rewards for doing the same shit over and over did.

[@dreadfury2485]

Storyline is good. But the terrain is absolute shit and I don't think I'd ever want to keep doing this zone for fourteen or more months given how impossible it is to navigate.

[@selwa1286]

biggest problems are the ittems,stoped to play because of the reason..why im going to the raids if in next 6 months normal drops from quest or rare mobs are better than the raid items..it just sucks btw love the game alot but those things don't let me play can't enjoy it really

[@AuraXars]

Old raids still drop AP and Legos, so kinda relevant

[@hellagunner1]

Dude no one does old raids nor do guilds bring in casual players to them. Not everyone has the whole day to play wow...

[@MaksReveck]

i like this expa as a whole it pretty much helped me fully transition from pvp to pve and raiding mythic almost down'd mistress so idk only thing i will say that pvp has pretty much been abandoned for legion i feel till next expa and reworks

[@fifaskillman]

5:22 he already has the mount are you serious

[@Durangedkitten]

i feel like the catch up gear should at most 880.

[@Troy2Slick]

880 gear was Broken Shore, why would it be the same for Argus? Lol

[@Durangedkitten]

850 gear was broken shore

[@Spotnick2]

Timeless Isle was good? That's new to me... was done with this place on the first day, and it was annoying to go on low ilvl alts because you got ganked all the time.

[@Troy2Slick]

Yeah, millions of people loved it. It's been my favorite patch and place to experience over the last 10 years.

[@amog849]

The WoW community never changes. Y'all have been complaining about dailies and new patches being "boring" since WotLK.

[@drayenomg]

Can't see why they can't just buff loot from old raids

[@shanekuchler6220]

i am glad for the 910 baseline gear...fuck the legion raids, they do not give gear that helps unless you are extremely goddamn lucky