My Healthcare Experience in Europe as an American

This is the story of my healthcare experience while I was in Holland and Germany.

[@LostDamnedSoul]

All the dislikes are Americans that believe European healthcare is communism.

[@JamesScott-xt7pf]

more like everything outside of US is communism

[@spongebobsquarepants1788]

Its socialism

[@edthejester]

@@spongebobsquarepants1788 correct :) And that's why Bernie is right.

[@FreeSpirit47]

With your incredible ESP, you should start giving psychic readings for pay.

[@doaa7941]

I just learned that taking an ambulance would take a good chunk out of your bank account in the US a few days ago, that blew my mind

[@mars2616]

You know you're European when he says 60€ and you're like "that's too expensive!"

[@devilsabyss]

Lmao this.

[@oanxa]

Lmaoo trueeee

[@mariebambelle7361]

In pharmacies and hospital in France, almost everything on prescription is free and if not, you don't have to pay anything either because the pharmacist/the hospital will contact your insurance itself to get paid back. The only thing we pay is the 25 euros appointment with the doctor on which the healthcare system pays back later 16.5 euros and your health insurance pays back the rest.

[@Onew92]

Marie Bambelle You know what, Americans usually say “There’s no free lunch” 😏 Your healthcare is free because you’ve already paid for it through tax. Nothing is free

[@intothewoods900]

Oululainen That's fine, happy to pay the taxes and have a solid healthcare and social security system for that. Where do the US taxes go? 😉

[@Marshmellow3971]

Breaking Bad in Europe: *Walt gets cancer* *Cancer treatment is free and he’s allowed sick leave from work* *Walt recovers* The end.

[@l0st5oul45]

also walt doesn't have to work a second job at a carwash

[@dontbetonit813]

Also Walt doesn't have to worry about not being able to get health coverage now that he has a "pre-existing condition."

[@Tyler-Wiley]

What really would happen Breaking Bad in Europe: Walt gets cancer Cancer treatment is free but takes a long time to get care because of the people already in line Walt dies regardless of the country The end.

[@whitney3258]

@@Tyler-Wiley you should stop spreading false information.

[@JCavLP]

Cancer comes back and Walt dies because the world is cruel

[@TheLazyGuyWay]

Europe --> Healthcare is a right America--> Healthcare is a privilege.

[@edgarfriendly666]

It's a service.

[@dansattah]

@@edgarfriendly666 It's a service on both continents. However, in Europe healthcare is included in the "human right to life".

[@edgarfriendly666]

@@dansattah I should know, I'm european. However declaring something as a right means that someone has to be forced to provide that for you. So I hope you see the problem with that, you are not entitled to someone elses' labour.

[@Mentaljedi]

Even beyond that argument, it just makes sense. A healthy population = a more productive one. Everyone wins.

[@winter_wolf3284]

mentaljedi maybe if they stopped putting so much money into military and police and spent it on education and healthcare we could be a better population.. maybe starting with the food.. so much sugar, sodium, fat, oils... this is why the obesity rate is so high here- also smaller portions

[@krashd]

When someone says "Please, don't call an ambulance!" and tries to leave the scene with a broken leg because they would rather let it heal incorrectly than lose their life savings you should realise that the politicians who tell you that you live in the greatest country in the world just might be lying to you.

[@JohnnyYK]

David Tucker Yes it dose happen in America I’m an example of that because I had a car accident on November 15 2018 I was hit so hard I cracked my skull on the steering wheel messed up my arm, had a really bad concussion lost all of my hearing for a few weeks, couldn’t see clearly, and couldn’t even walk. I went in a ambulance to the ER and I got a bill for 700$ luckily my insurance paid the rest of the out of the 2.5 k I would’ve gotten hit with. I was a college student working a part time security job making just enough to pay my school and other bills. I soon after lost my job cause I couldn’t work and I had to ask my parents for money just so I wouldn’t go into debt because of unpaid medical bills, between the cost of the ambulance, physical therapy and all of my medications there was no way I could’ve paid for it.This system is atrocious for the vast majority of people in this country we need to find better solutions for this issue.

[@krashd]

@David Tucker *"No one is entitled to a free ride"* Why then are unemployed Americans entitled to free police protection? Free fire protection? Free defence by the military? Free access to libraries? Free upkeep of the sidewalks they use? After all if they don't pay taxes they aren't contributing to any of these. Or better yet - let's shorten this to a single question - why is healthcare the odd one out in a nation where almost everything else has been socialised?

[@celestialcolosseum]

@David Tucker you are insane.

[@celestialcolosseum]

@David Tucker i'm serious, seek help.

[@darkrisee1833]

@David Tucker Just because someone is poverty-stricken does not mean they are more likely to steal... The circumstances that they are put through since childbirth and so many other factors go into effect when talking about people less fortunate then you are, and that doesn't even mean they are less hardworking than you... Here in Canada, we have universal healthcare and it helps everyone out when someone gets hurt. You sound really closed-minded and your not taking into consideration all the factors at play when you speak clearly so have fun with a close-minded outlook on life you sheep.

[@christianmoreno8718]

In the United States you’re a customer not a patient

[@PoolOfTrees]

Yet still the customer service sucks, from what I hear...

[@Helperbot-2000]

fr... freedom?.....

[@Helperbot-2000]

@Mikael Jensen great comment, you learn something new every day (even if that is that my danish brothers are labeled as socialists) great points, i hope you teach some people that helping other people live a normal life isnt a evil socialist thing XD love from norway :)

[@susanbehring3401]

Exactly!

[@stupidcommentmaker]

This actually literally true. We’re told in nursing school to refer to people as “clients” as opposed to “patients”.

[@thecosmy1]

it might actually be cheaper to book a flight from US to EU, get treated and fly back.

[@gwishart]

Non urgent medical care isn't free for American tourists.

[@zerofuks416]

gwishart It’s not free, but it would still be cheaper than US

[@coursanglais2956]

I literally did it once.

[@jamiemidge4983]

Cours Anglais I want my 0.0001 penny that paid for it!

[@code-kn7qp]

@@jamiemidge4983 hahaaa send me your IBAN code then lol. (p.s: Actually I paid for it, I am an EU citizen -where I pay my taxes including a yearly tax for health care card-, I lived in the US for couple of months where I had a private insurance for which I paid around 300$ per month yet, it didn't cover my issue. Hence, it turned out to be cheaper for me to go back to Europe for hospitalisation, then fly back to the US. Sad but true)

[@MoonHowler340]

Healthcare be like: USA: *Pay2Win* Europe: *Free2Play*

[@BobuxGuy]

@Videosofkarma wut?

[@olivergoodwin9837]

@Videosofkarma swear you get ads for medications literally every second add 🙄 'ask your doctor'

[@doroparker1702]

@Jacques Malan Research is done in Europe for lots of medication. Look at Switzerland, Germany, France. The most important companies were founded in Europe. If you compare the size of USA with Europe, USA is bigger. If you compare results in pharmacy or anything per person, you clearly will see that much more is going on in Europe. Do US AMERICAN doctors create a medicine just for your individual problem? I don't think so. Unless you are able to pay five million per month. There is a place in Europe where they do exactly this. US hospitals have to make money. European hospitals do help to get sick people healthy again. Just look at numbers of covid 19. Do you need more evidence?

[@HypercopeEmia]

@Jacques Malan Mate 1. Soviet union had more nuclear weapons then the US (russia still has more stockpiled) 2. Nuclear weapons were mainly invented by europeans relocated to america 3. From whom did you protect europe from? An another part of Europe? Russia or the soviet union definitly are considered european countries not asian ones 4. Us chose a side in ww1 and ww2 that was long term beneficial for them not from the goodnes of heart 5. Europe does not need saving from europe 6. Both world wars clearly shown that europe is capable of creating empires just as strong if not stronger then the US 7. European powers can defeat the russians? I think it was obviously shown in ww2 when germany was fighting on 3 fronts when still being sabotaged within internal resistance and almost winning againt the USSR 8. Yes no more land for colonizing was a big part of ww1 9. I think it is clear that europe if united ( wich would never realisticly happen unless a big threat would arise) would be the strongest nontinent in terms of power. Americans act like thier military is godly just becose they spend much on it not relaising that if european powers went to war they would increase spending

[@MrDaChicken]

@Videosofkarma OMFG! As a Canadian, I find this utterly hilarious. I intend to steal it and use it t a later date. Just lettin ya know.

[@ghanamafia7199]

Healthcare in Europe is a healthcare. Healthcare in America is A BUSINESS governed by pharmaceutical and insurance companies to maximize PROFITS.

[@mathildewesendonck7225]

Ghana Mafia exactly

[@arandomboi7611]

That’s what businesses are for simpleton. Profit.

[@user-on9mn9qz8s]

so in America, people don't have free health care??

[@arandomboi7611]

ρεντα φεκα you have to pay for it. But with health insurance it’s mostly free

[@ShidaiTaino]

ARandomBoi unless they exclude it and wot pay until you do

[@jerramy]

I'm European and when I told my friends I was visiting Las Vegas for a holiday they all said "Don't get sick!!!"

[@johnm.3279]

Just get an international travel health insurance policy, they're not expensive. Example: 40 year old male from UK visiting US for 2 weeks, policy for up to $1,000,000 with $0 deductible, $1,000,000 for medical evacuation back home if needed. Everyone is eligible. Cost - $84.00

[@spencerwilton5831]

John Montgomery Insurance aside, the experience of US healthcare is a miserable one. I was taken ill in New York. Fully insured. But treated like a criminal and waited hours to be basically abused by a doctor.

[@filipv2167]

yes, don't get sick or get travel insurance from Europe, well worth it.

[@waysaunut]

@@johnm.3279 Just go to the hospital get fixed, Go back to the UK, Don't pay the bill, They just write it off, Don't you guy's know how America works

[@user-xb9yv2ci4c]

In Canada, near the American border you can buy health insurance payed per hour, if you want to go across the border.

[@ieradossantos]

When Corona gained traction, European universities told students abroad in America to return their respected countries in Europe because the health care in America wasn't sufficient. They compared it to 3rd world standards D:

[@overflow7276]

Turned out to be some good advice!

[@goncaloaraujo6644]

Portugueses universities told their students to bring friends and etc 😂

[@bounty1402]

I believe the problem in America is not the quality of health care, but the business system.

[@tomatus270389]

Even 3rd world countries have better health care systems. I live in one.

[@DaJoIKeR]

@@bounty1402 Exactly... If you are looking for the best of the best doctors I am pretty sure that more than half of them live in the US (doesn't mean that there are bad ones in Europe... Just not the best)... I'd still choose the European system whatsoever, because they are kilometers (just a little sidepunch) ahead.

[@DonyBye]

I’m Irish. My son had to have his appendix out while on holidays near Girona in Spain in the 1990’s. He had a room to himself for the duration of his stay. The total bill was €0.38 for a phone call he made. The EU is a fantastic place to live.

[@storiedoltremare6840]

Donal O'Lochlainn well said!

[@imastatistic8347]

My brothers appendectomy was $27,000 after our insurance cover.........

[@jimboyle6974]

Wasn't he lucky he was in Spain when it happened, not in Ireland.

[@jenspetersen5865]

No it did not cost 0.38€ - it cost a fortune that the Spanish tax payers paid for, and for some reason the Hospital did not care enough to write the bill so the rightful person paid.

[@edoardofilippi6897]

@@jenspetersen5865 bet you've never heard about being generous then

[@alandole5386]

I went to Italy with my family and forgot to take my daughter’s inhaler for her cough. We went to pharmacy in Florence and they had same inhaler over the counter and it cost 4 euros!!! Here in the USA we need a prescription and co-pay is $60!!! Obviously we bought a 2 year supply worth of inhalers.

[@svenbardos6637]

@Nehemiah Scudder USA, the land of the free? Whoever told you, is your enemy ;-)

[@derherrdirektor9686]

Cool, so you made the Italian public pay for the inhalers... This price is clearly subsidized. Shame on you for exploiting their hospitality. Just vote for Sanders next time, if you want a normal healthcare system.

[@schrodingerscat4019]

Nikky Ull I’m an Italian citizens, and I don’t care if with my taxes I helped a little girl with her health problem, I’m happy to you enjoy the trip here and we hope that your daughter it’s felling better. Ps: you should have bought up to 5 years of supply, health it’s a must not a privilege

[@adopancia7445]

Der HerrDirektor No, that price is not subsidized: that is the actual cost of the inhaler fixed between the producer and the pharmacies. Only of you buy prescription medications the price can be subsidized. Over the counter products are actual price.

[@nicomayolassebastian4253]

4€ sound crazy to me since here in Spain I pay 1,66€ for it

[@oriain81]

Europe has a healthcare system (although not perfect). America has a healthcare business. Very different.

[@ixlnxs]

This. Also, our healthcare system isn't perfect for patients, but America's healthcare business is perfect for stockowners.

[@Jalgorn]

Very good point

[@mreshadow]

What a spectacular distinction

[@RMJ1984]

Nothing is perfect. You cannot achieve perfection. But you can strive for it and chase it..

[@johnbauernfeind8116]

oriain81 great point...this kid should have no insurance in America, and let me know how it goes

[@huntsman145]

It's mind-boggling to me how Americans think healthcare is a service you need to pay for but owning a gun is a right. A very backward country...

[@coleslaw8493]

huntsman145 owning a gun is an important right but the people who think healthcare should stay as it is here are sadly misinformed

[@antoniettabombardelli8868]

@@coleslaw8493 what do you mean "having a gun is an important right"?

[@coleslaw8493]

Antonietta Bombardelli a lot Americans own guns. If we outlaw them it will just send more people to prison. Also protection. Disarming the working class is also bad.

[@antoniettabombardelli8868]

@@coleslaw8493 strange law for an European.

[@coleslaw8493]

Antonietta Bombardelli yep but America is a very weird country

[@joaov4r3l4]

You had to pay because you’re not a EU citizen. Because if you were it would be for free, plus you get big discount in your medication.

[@mrbitcoin23]

Not true depands on the country. Here in the netherlands we have to pay for basic healtcare insurance around 100€ a month. If you see a docter we have a thing called own-risk so we have to pay up to 385€ depands on the costs of that visit. let say that visit will cost 1000€ you only have to pay the 385€. There are things excluded from the own risk but not everything

[@bertdenboer879]

It's not free in Belgium but it'll cost you 50€ for a doctors appointment and prob like max 30 for the pills and also around 70 foor the xray and emergency room but you'll have to wait longer in most emergency rooms

[@vizender]

@@bertdenboer879 in France it’s 23€ for a doctor appointment and at max 78€ per day for the cost of one day in hospital (it’s free unless you want a single room)

[@gut2000]

@@bertdenboer879 i have to pay 25€ for a doctors appointment and healthcare pays back about 23€. So doctor is about 2€ for a consult. And i am from belgium.

[@Ak5u]

I don't have to pay anything for a doctors appointment, I'm Finnish.

[@Asidders]

This guy: talking Chair: Allow me to sing the hymn of my people

[@loganperry4444]

This comment is art

[@TilveranWrites]

I have one of those chairs. I was like, "I'm not alone!" lmao they're noisy

[@meeranaidu4656]

Haaaaahaaaaahhaaaaa!!!

[@Myiata1979]

I think now there are much more information about other countries and Americans are starting to understand that they're system is very unfair and inequality is King there!I prefer making less money then be exploited by health insurance companies!

[@estherk5717]

Mate you made me spit out my water 😂🤣

[@ReinyFM]

Dear my American friends, I’m from Germany and we all have automatically medical insurance when we born until we die! I can’t believe that in a big and rich country like yours, people are dying because they have not enough money to pay the medical bills. Access to medical care is not socialism, it’s a human right! I talked to my English teacher which is American and I asked him: “Gregor, how is it for you in Germany, do you like it here?” He answers me: “Mind blowing. Bring half of the American population for only one week to Germany, a week after that we will have a revolution in my country.” My English is probably not the best (yet) but I hope I expressed me understandable.

[@lilyruff1411]

Your English is beautiful

[@Nidiamo]

Sorry to correct you, but we are not automatically insured from birth til death that is simply not true... the number of uninsured people is relatively small (around 80.000) but it' a sign that our system also is far from perfect...

[@ghadrackpotato960]

Oh you silly people, don't you understand like we Americans that your life is valuable? Why wouldn't you take every bit of money you can from a person if they are sick? That's the American way, profit before conscience! Sadly while I'm being sarcastic, that's what our whole system is about, profits before people and if you are poor, go die. Yay! We are the best!!!

[@ReadR00ster1]

Um the United States is not rich, we have tons of poor people. And if heath care is a human right, then what if no one wants to become a doctor? By that logic doctors would basically be indentured servants.

[@ghadrackpotato960]

@@ReadR00ster1 that's a symptom of the problem It shouldn't cost a half a million dollars and up to go to medical school. Since we've monetized health we've screwed ourselves. How much is your life worth? That's the problem with for profit medicine. Look at the UK, their doctors don't have 40 million dollar mansions, but they still afford luxury cars and nice homes. You don't need to live like a god to help sick people. There would be thousands more doctors in the U.S. right now if the barrier to entry wasn't so high and hospitals and doctors offices weren't short staffing to maximize profits ftom insurance billing.

[@UnroyalDutchie]

America only has wealthcare.

[@mirrorflame1988]

Nice one! I am going to use it as well!

[@Robert-ov1wi]

Can you elaborate? Or are you just another person who deserves everything from other people because you were born?

[@mroof523]

Haha I know a classic hate America because why not meme so funny. I'm laughing SO much

[@brucewillixaspirinix9652]

@@mroof523 We hate the US because we love the US. Like we really want you to be great. Cheers from Europe :))

[@mroof523]

@@brucewillixaspirinix9652 we are great but as any country does, have flaws. I just tired of is being the most unreasonably hated country ever. Were like any other power. Fight terrorism, dont mind our own affairs, are the police of the world. After all we protect you from Russia. Would hate to see you guys end up like Georgia or Ukraine. I know shocking an American knows what's going on in the world. Bit yes. I love Europe too. Especially France. Have I mentioned I also love France? I dont know.

[@sceart2011]

I'm Italian and was in Hungary, Balaton Lake and I had an incident with my bike, well the cost for ambulance, medication, x-ray was ZERO. Thank you, Europe.

[@valt1337]

you were lucky, considering hungary is a shithole racist country

[@grimorio6968]

Vecchio pure io! Stessa storia ma vicino Bidapest

[@Lilly-bo1mi]

Io resto in Italia e ho pagato SOLO le visite in laboratori semi-privati. MAI pagato in ospedali pubblici. La cosa che si dovrebbe fare è rendere pubblici e gratuiti anche tutti quanti i medicinali che trovi nelle farmacie. I remain in Italy and I payed ONLY some visits in the half-private labs. NEVER payed in the public hospitals. The thing we should do is to make free and public every single drugs/medicals you can find in the drug stores.

[@LMB222]

Thank you, EHIC - European health insurance card - that you exist.

[@budapestkeletistationvoices]

The English are happy of not being part

[@nikki2giovi]

I am so used to going to the doctor for free that when he said he got charged 20 euros I thought “wow, poor guy”

[@miriamkorver1443]

He paid $25 to go to the GP in the Netherlands and he got ripped off. In the Netherlands it's always free to go to the GP. That's why he had to pay in cash. I'm Dutch so I know. I feel bad for him being ripped-off by people taking advantage of him not knowing the specifics of our health care system.

[@jayxfrost8987]

Miriam Korver But when you're a Dutch it means you have citizenship.. he doesn't. And he also doesn't pay his insurance here, I think that's why he had to pay for the doctor. If he had an insurance he wouldn't have paid anything (the painkillers maybe)..

[@nicodemusarchleone2735]

Miriam Korver Its free for you as you (presumably) pay taxes. He's a foreign citizen that doesn't contribute at all. That's why he was charged.

[@jayxfrost8987]

Nicodemus Archleone Exactly. If you pay taxes and have insurance the government pays for you. But he doesn’t have neither here so he had to pay for it himself.

[@phobos.anomaly]

@Miriam Korver A visit to the GP is not free (and €20 sounds like the right ballpark); the bill goes to your health insurance, who pays for it. The difference with other health expenses is that GP visits are not counted against your deductibles (eigen risico), which is why you never see those bills. Visiting foreigners can also take out health insurance here, either with a Dutch company or with a company in their country of origin. As I understand it, this is actually mandatory for foreign visitors (as it is for Dutch citizens!), but I'm unsure of the specifics.

[@keeperman4]

As an American, I am ashamed of our system. Healthcare is a human right!

[@alexandercrush]

US healthcare is just dumb. Even with health insurance your health insurance will do whatever possible to deny your claim. It's so stressful going to the hospital and always needing to make sure everyone is in network. The room, hospital, doctor, anesthesiologist, nurse staff. All have to be in network. If one isn't then it's denied and you get billed a crazy amount.

[@ismetince]

I am really happy there are people like you.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

@@alexandercrush stfu

[@OKA4LIVE]

@@quanbrooklynkid7776 Oo, somebody's angry.

[@lead_sommelier]

@@quanbrooklynkid7776 thank you for your great addition to this argument it shows a whole nother side, and I am very glad that you enlightened me

[@waterfordMARTIN]

Welcome to Europe. I see its cheaper to get the gun in US than healthcare 🥴

[@areswalker5647]

More guns more clients for the hospital, it's the American circle

[@Jay_Kay666]

But a bullet will heal all human ailments. Fastly, cheaply and effectively.

[@lorefreak94]

I am torn on the whole gun control thing. I don't want people coming to my house taking away my hunting guns. But WAY too many people have concealed weapons, those should be for law enforcement only. And Why?! Does someone really need an assault rifle in their closet. "the right to bear arms" was originally put in the constitution so the people could bop some sense into the government if the became corrupt. Right now the government has the people so outclassed, trying a second American revolution would be suicide. Yet people cling to their guns like a child with his security blanket.

[@Chivaz777]

So you cant recover from getting shot

[@persapphone]

LoreFreak you’d probably need to get a licence for your hunting guns. I don’t think they’d just start taking away people’s guns. They’d just require people to get a permit to own and use them. It’s good to see a common sense comment from a gun owner. My friend from the US is also a hunter and his opinion is pretty much the same as yours.

[@oettam7133]

I am Italian and when I broke my finger I paid 0,00€ for a visit to the doctor and an x-ray. I am proud of being European. 🇪🇺🇮🇹

[@stephanhugo4185]

You're lucky to be living there!

[@bilinmeyen3391]

tell that now lol

[@KatanBlack]

I‘m from Austria and I got in an Emergency my Appendix removed, Ambulance ride and all! Had to stay 4 days in Hospital bed! Only paid 53 € for my 4-day stay and that was it!

[@stephanhugo4185]

@@KatanBlack Wow!

[@nandhakishor103]

Don't be proud of your privileges.

[@paolobindini471]

Luckily I am not American! Public health must be a RIGHT, not a business!

[@user-sf5iq2fl1l]

I went a few weeks ago to check my feelings with a psychologist. Paid nothing. "Uh, buh taxes, no fee luches"...dont care, WORTH IT!!!

[@blueheart8786]

@@user-sf5iq2fl1l I like the nordic system - great on so many levels, but when it comes to psychologist visits you often have to pay full or partially , not totally free. WHere do you live since it was free there?

[@rowynnecrowley1689]

In the U.S., only rich people have the right to good health.

[@ministryoftruth8499]

@@blueheart8786 Teixeira is a Portuguese surname, so likely Portugal.

[@scottm7878]

That is your opinion !

[@saharaamazinglady]

In total he spent $122 rounded up, for convience, for an ER trip, two evalutions, 3 prescriptions, and an X-ray. You'd be looking at 1,000-$5,000 grand in the USA.

[@mentos93]

Why are people not protesting in the streets? They start protests for the smallest things but not for healthcare. I don't understand that.. now with bernie out of the race nothing will change while healthcare has become 40% more expensive in the last decade the US.

[@metalvideos1961]

@@mentos93 Because older Americans have been thought that a socialist system which include health care is communism. after amercia so called won the cold war. which they didnt. they claimed that a socialist system is communism. and that have been drilled in the heads of the older Americans. so they dont want a socialist system they think the word socilist is a dirty word. so they are happy to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for something simple. they dont mind to get bankrupt or kicked out of their house because they cant pay a medical bill. medical bills in america are among the highest debt rates in the country. so in other words they are brainwashed by their own government. and nobody have questioned it.

[@charliej7724]

Five thousand grand?

[@KunjaBihariKrishna]

And that's without insurance, as a foreigner

[@dianeschmidt17]

I went to ONE trip to the ER and after my insurance paid their portion I still owed almost $2K...I’d like to be accepted as a European citizen please lol

[@kurtoskarson6778]

I am from Norway. I married a California girl and have been living in California for the last 5 years. I pay a little bit less tax here than in Norway but in Norway I would have 1st class healthcare, retirement, free university education for my kids, unemployment benefits, disability insurance and more included in my taxes. The retirement I would receive would be enough for a good standard of living, where I can travel the world for several months a year. Like my retired parents are doing now even though they probably made less through life than average of their generation. Me and my wife make more than average Californians but if we add health insurance cost to our tax we are already worse off then what we would pay in tax in Norway and the only thing we receives back is a terrible system of copays, deductible, not covered, in network and so fort. The European system is far better. Generally laws are made to protect the consumer, the normal guy on the street and not big money and corporations. I would pay my Norwegian tax with a smile on my face compared to this. This is why Scandinavia over multiple years have been ranked the best countries to live in with the happiest people. And yes it is a big difference.

[@franklintempleton9818]

Day care and college expense for two my kids are $400k, 100+300. I could buy another house.

[@USMC6976]

Then go back to Norway if it's so bad in California.

[@kurtoskarson6778]

I will, as soon as my family situation allows it.

[@USMC6976]

@@kurtoskarson6778 Just an excuse to stay. We claim how much better someplace else is, but we just can't go there, yet. Obviously, where you are provides for you better then there. That's the real reason you're staying.

[@TomFranklinX]

California + no national healthcare = current taxes of Cali Norway + National Healthcare = slightly higher taxes than Cali California + national healthcare = Taxes far higher than Norway The government of Norway has far lower expenses than the government of US.

[@etalien4424]

All you need to know: 1. Every industrial nation except USA has universal healthcare with heavy government regulation or fully socialized. 2. None of these nations want to get rid of the system. All have minor problems but the general populations don’t want to get rid of it. 3. In America most people hate the healthcare system - surprise bills, crazy tests etc.

[@RodrigoroRex]

Not even far right parties want the healthcare system gone, shows how good it is

[@jpmasters-aus]

Unfortunately the Liberal National Party in Australia (the current government) have had a long term plan (which they have regularly failed) to dismantle our universal health care system. But then our current PM likes Trump.

[@MladenVass]

Universal healthcare cant be apply in USA cuz that suggest social equality and its something that people can apply to every area in the life and that will collaps the capitalism.We all know that capitalism depend on inequality injustice and class devisions,something that all people in USA love so mach.

[@MegaDixen]

@@RodrigoroRex far right parties in europe are not that right when in it coms to economics.

[@danilopanzano]

@@MegaDixen that's because nazism is national socialism and fascism is pretty much the same. Far right in europe hasn't been like "yeah you should be paying your private healthcare" since the late 1800's .

[@bryanlee7295]

While studying in the UK I had an ankle injury. Visited the A&E, got an x-ray and they patched me up gave me some meds and a pair crutches. As this was going on I was feeling nervous about the medical bill, but then the billing counter lady just said "alright love, take care" and I'm stunned so I asked how much do owe them, she "nothing, you're a student" *mind-blown*

[@tussk.]

Same thing with a friend of mine who was here studying from philly. she's diabetic and run out of her meds so i took het to the GP. he wrote her up a prescription and she tried to pay. when she discovered that it was free she burst into tears. she explained that at home, no money = no meds. they would have let her die if she couldnt pay.

[@neo123321]

Haha that must of been weird for you, if your a UK citizen then healthcare through the NHS is free for everyone, whether your a student, an adult, in work, out of work etc. People who are in work pay a few quid for dental and prescriptions etc but it’s nothing major, if your out of work it’s all free. Our NHS can be a little slow at times but it’s pretty amazing.

[@27Zangle]

Sounds awesome till you learn how much they pay in taxes. Also, worried about people who have illnesses like MS.

[@tussk.]

Actually, we dont pay that much in tax, especially when you consider that any illness, ailment or injury you might incur is covered for your entire life, including the birth of your children, any specialist equipment you might need as well as home visits from a specialist. all free at point of service. if you earn a low wage, you might not pay tax at all, and even higher earners are better off with the system as it is, compared to the exorbitant healthcare costs the USA can charge. I can, right now, go to a pharmacist and get free medication for a list of minor ailments. no doctors appointent, no waiting time.

[@joantaylor9702]

Bryan Lee how lovely for you. I live in the UK and pay taxes for NHS. I can't take advantage of it because I'm working and because when you get to a&e it is full of visiting or unemployed foreigners who have all the time in the world to sit around and take advantage of taxpayers contributions. Doctors surgeries are the same. You have to learn to take care of yourself or be prepared to lose precious income. If you are fortunate enough to be able to afford private healthcare you still have to pay NHS taxes for those who choose to parasite off others. Not fair! As a taxpayer I'm sick of people thinking how great it is to get healthcare for free. It's not free! Every taxpayer is picking up the bill for those who are happy to take the benefits others paid for, but can't easily access. Social healthcare is only good for those that don't contribute or don't understand or care about who is paying the bills.

[@gilleslahire1856]

Was on a travel to Moscow, had a bike accident and broke my leg. Got an Ambulance to a clinic, my leg was x-rayed, placed in a cast. Had to pay nothing, the Doc served me a cup tea.

[@Dazzxp]

@lilly lazer Yep Russia also uses the universal health system also not just western europe, which is why i can't fathom how America is the only country in the modern world that doesn't really use it.

[@Dazzxp]

@lilly lazer WTF initially they refused you pain meds? How the hell is that humane and then icing on the cake you get a bill for 5 grand! I try to set my expectations low but the more stories i hear the lower i set it that i am not sure i can set it any lower. I guess i have been spoilt with the NHS and free or cheap medical care on mainland europe.

[@mentos93]

@lilly lazer the people that made you suffor should be criminaly charged and their medical license away. That situation would be against the law in my country.

[@kwando472]

@@Dazzxp They don't use the metric system either.

[@littlepookie5362]

Of course it'll be free, you had an emergency

[@coupleofbeers31]

The US "healthcare system" is nothing more than a bunch of corporations that lie, cheat, and steal from everyone. They don't care about people's health, only about the bottom line.

[@rugheadedporchmonkey]

its a business, just like pharmaceutical drugs

[@cperez8919]

coupleofbeers31 US Healthcare: “That’s too bad you’re in pain. We can’t do anything for you because we have high-overhead (CEO’s,, etc. & shareholders) and you don’t have cash or health care”.

[@sweetbriarhuslin7371]

coupleofbeers31 the only reason they can is because of government aka politicians.

[@crazygirlfun1]

And they send lobbyists to Washington to further their agenda

[@wskyw]

Watch Adam ruin everything on health care in USA. MRI for a person without insurance is about 4k. The same MRI for a person with insurance is 700. You pay about 100. Your insurance pays 600. How is that fair to someone without insurance!?

[@luk4aaaa]

over 500$ for an X-ray? what kind of third world country is the US lol.

[@HeylookbuddyImanengineerThatme]

Bro we are just a business. This entire country is a business

[@Skyebright1]

Agree

[@essencer.9494]

at least, it can be WAY more depending on whatever they want to factor in.

[@popantermopan4099]

@@HeylookbuddyImanengineerThatme America is a bunch of companies that pretend to be a country.

[@ibtehaj95]

I live in a South Asian 3rd world country. An X-Ray costs about $4 BTW :P

[@lastchance1101]

I live in Africa,Ethiopia one of the poorest countries in the world but guess what we have FREE health care yes completley free no insurance nothing their are private hospitals with foreigner doctors which will make you pay but public hospitals will probably ask you to pay 0.75$

[@srccde]

May I ask, with your country being one of the poorest in the world, how does it afford a free healthcare system?

[@lastchance1101]

@@srccde we pay tax and they probably use that money properly to help the people

[@srccde]

@@lastchance1101 It doesn't really add up though... If there's supposedly enough funding to have free healthcare for everyone then I'd really like to know what your definition of poverty is.

[@rKhighlight]

S0urc3C0de: I suppose you’re American since you think free healthcare has anything to do with poverty. Universal healthcare is MUCH cheaper than the American system. People from the US are however indoctrinated to think it’s expensive.

[@srccde]

@@rKhighlight I'm from Germany, thank you very much. I know how a well-functioning healthcare system works - I've been living in one my whole life. Furthermore, after having conducted a bit of research, I found NOTHING about any healthcare system whatsoever in the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia - the situation there is, in fact, described as pretty much the opposite of any sort of healthcare system. So, either, this information is, for some mysterious reason, so well hidden that neither german, nor english sources provide anything about it at all, or my suspicions were well founded after all.

[@rudolfb2090]

I was in Croatia hiking. I fell and broke my left wrist. A rescue helicopter hoisted me into the chopper from the mountain whereupon I was taken to the hospital by ambulance. After a thorough physical exam to rule out other trauma,( I am a diabetic and have a heart condition) my coles fracture of the left wrist was straightened and placed in a cast. I went to the cashier. The total cost was $20 AMERICAN dollars CASH‼️ All I had to show was my US driver’s license . I signed a consent form to be treated. Passport not required! It is a medical experience I cannot forget. The amiability and the gracefulness removed any thoughts that I was in “foreign” country.

[@Perados]

And you have been to the "shit hole" of Europe... even there the health care system is better than in the USA ;)

[@madmax1717]

Croatia is a great country, except for corrupt politicians.

[@MsMesem]

They want tourists to come back and tell their friends about that great experience!

[@xxxmmm3812]

@@Perados lol croatia is not a shithole. medical care there is great. i lived in both germany and scandinavia and i still went to the private docs and dentists in croatia when needed due to them being better. they even have specialists that you cant find anywhere else in the world. even the most expensive doctors with best equipment on the market wont cost you a fraction of what it would cost you in the states.

[@xxxmmm3812]

@@MsMesem no, people there actually care for other human beings, apparently something the states has a hard time comprehending

[@mzdarklight1]

As an American that has been living in Australia for 9 years I can say that a single payer, universal, medicare for all system is NOTHING like what I thought it would be living in the US. I got bit by a spider 4 days ago.. and settle down.. it's a white tail, known in the US as a brown recluse, so not even an exotic Aussie spider. Went to doc.. was able to see him that day, fit me in between patients. Got a couple of scripts, got a swab taken for him to send it off to test for a secondary infection and a follow up appointment next week. I've paid a grand total of $13.00 for all of this. I had my gallbladder removed. The doctors visits cost me nothing, the surgery cost me nothing. The ultra sounds to diagnose cost me nothing. The wait time.. was about 6 weeks from the first serious attack. Keep in mind, after knowing what it was mine was treated with diet until surgery. I was not in pain and not a critical need. Back in the US.. the gallbladder would have had me bankrupt. The spider bite would have me wondering how to pay the electric bill.

[@angieb.222]

Ya, it sucks if you don't have really good health insurance in US. Even some "good" health insurance (that cost money every month) still leaves high medical bills.

[@61barrackroad]

@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yet most of you cant even afford even the most simple of healthcare. You are essentially a 3rd World country full of people that cant even afford the essential that is healthcare. Healthcare is not a luxury it is an essential without your health you have nothing. Everybody pays for healthcare in Europe so whats to disbelieve? It just works & its not extortionate. I would much rather pay for healthcare the way we do than the way you do. I'm reading even for simple medical care peopele getting charged $5k! How can that be right? Because we all pay in Europe brings the cost of treatments down. By your own comments my dog has better healthcare than most of you Americans! Thats savage.

[@61barrackroad]

@@kathleeninkansas1770 also sayes a lot about your own governent then doesn't it. We have had NHS here for 80 years now & yes there are issues but medicine is still free to us at the point of use even with our government

[@61barrackroad]

@@kathleeninkansas1770 no you would rather die on a dirty ood sidewalk someplace rather than have basic medical care. What a bizarre country youl live in!?!

[@61barrackroad]

@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yes it is actually cheaper for us because you buy medical care policies for healthcare that would otherwise cost you more than we pay but also therrs a double whammy here get this you are at the mercy of the health care cover provider so if you have suffered with a condition they are pergectly within their right to bump your policy up. Well that doesn't happen here in Europe.

[@JonnM]

My wife and I were on vacation in France a few years ago. She sprained her ankle so we went to see the local doctor, who suggested she have an X-ray in a local clinic, nearby. The X-ray, which was reviewed by a radiologist, showed there to be no break but it was indeed sprained. They wrapped it gave her a prescription for a set of crutches and some pain killers which we filled at the local pharmacy. The costs; €20 for the first doctor, €40 for the X-ray and treatment in the clinic, €5 for an anti inflammatory pain killers and the crutches were free. €65 all in. This all took less than two hours. I have no idea if this is typical, but, my God, it was great. We didn’t have to, but we gave the crutches back to the pharmacy, before we left. This is not socialism, it’s basic decency in a sophisticated civilized country.

[@maximusasauluk7359]

I'm assuming you went to a private clinic, it would be about the same cost in Portugal.

[@rafaeltorres2595]

@@maximusasauluk7359 He had to pay something because he's not european, its still cheap tho

[@cheese4life69yearsago8]

If u would’ve lived there it would’ve been free

[@paulm2467]

If it had been the UK it would have been free except for the painkillers, they analysed it and discovered that it was cheaper just to treat everyone than set up the tracing and billing systems necessary to charge foreigners/ tourists.

[@Marktellerman]

The very fact that Americans refer to it as a doctor’s "office" speaks volumes. I’m British and we call them surgeries, clinics, etc. We don’t think of these as locations as places of business. They’re places of caring and healing. This is not socialism or communism. There’s something terribly wrong with a government with doesn’t wish to look after it’s citizens. American government - and by default, the voters who elect the government - seems uncaring and selfish. I may be wrong but it does seem that way.

[@mryan4452]

Not everywhere in Europe. You need to go to Ireland. They'll lace you for medical costs! And we pay loads of social insurance.. Although education is rediculously cheap, just not health

[@graup1309]

Wait, can you elaborate on what you call the doctor's office a little more. By which I mean "doctor" as in "GP". Like, what would you say when you go there. I have appearently been lied to my entire life I have always been told that "doctor's office" was the standard term across all Englishes

[@mcuggy8558]

Graup , Here, they’re all called ‘Doctor’ whether that’s in a hospital or in their place of work. This changes at the more senior (consultant) level within hospitals when ‘Dr’ is dropped in favour of ‘Mr’ or ‘Mrs/Miss/Mz’ Although in some cases, the ladies may elect to retain the ‘Dr’. It’s pretty optional really. The place of work for a GP is generally called either a surgery or a practice. Slightly more specific places - generally within a hospital - are called clinics. They are conducted in hospitals by consultants and/or doctors, often assisted by nurses and sometimes by more junior doctors. The NHS always seems to be free of charge but isn’t quite that. We pay though income taxation and national insurance contributions. Tax does really make a difference as for the vast majority, it’s 20% - 25%. Some lower earners pay only 10% while anyone earning less than £10k pay nothing. This covers absolutely everything including psychiatry even for none tax payers. A prescription for absolutely any medication is £8.50 for a 1 - 3 month supply. Doesn’t matter if it’s aspirin or cancer treatment. Pregnant, unemployed, children and elderly just don’t pay.

[@mcuggy8558]

Adrian Mannion, yes. Ireland. My wife’s aunt lived (and died last year) in Dublin. Her medical care - especially towards the end of her Alzheimers/life - was crippling. She been really quite wealthy but that system take it all

[@mryan4452]

@@mcuggy8558 worst of both worlds. High social insurance, and high medical costs.

[@GorinRedspear]

Best way to overload an American brain that is geared towards hating universal healthcare: "You do realise Jesus healed the sick free of charge?"

[@fridolinmaier8806]

Genius!

[@LG-jn5fx]

OMFG you have just made Christianity Un American. The lucky ones amongst us who live in Europe and most of the developed world, and some less developed countries as well, just cannot understand the US healthcare system and how they can possibly not understand how good social healthcare is. Has anyone heard a negative experience from a US citizen when visiting a European hospital?

[@GorinRedspear]

@@LG-jn5fx Actually, I heard one US citizen complain in a remote hospital in the Pyrenees. They tought their insurance cards were refused. The staff did not speak sufficient English and they did not speak sufficient French to comprehend insurance was not needed.

[@Gottenhimfella]

Yes indeed, Frederik. And if Jesus returned and showed up in the US bible belt, barefoot, long haired, penniless and on a borrowed donkey, he'd be lucky if their disgusted response was limited to running him out of town.

[@user-qp9uc9xx8d]

Gottenhimfella don’t forget he’s a middle eastern Jewish immigrant

[@DynamicFactorX]

when you spend 600 billion dollars annually on the military but cant provide healthcare cause that would be socialism

[@karl_3885]

this exactly.

[@Eseres80]

Thats what you get when you (the US governemnt) want to behave as the "world police". All those money spent on the military budget would have done miracles to the US healthcare system! But make no mistake though! Its not the average Joe on the street that have made the US government into what it is today, but the asshole politicians with nothing else but business in mind! In most countires with a presidency, the people are usually forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Just look at the last US election... Choosing between Killary and Dump is just about the same as choosing if you're going to shoot yourself in the left or right foot! In the end you'll still end up wounded. America could have been so much better for the people if its politicians only had wanted it.

[@TheM4rster]

Thought the same thing but then again who is gonna protect our asses when WW3 breaks out? German military is a joke, is not really combat experienced in recent times and has no nukes. Sounds good for idealists but when shit hits the fan somebody will need big brother.

[@DynamicFactorX]

Pew TheBIind That might seem like a logical train of thought. But when you consider that the second place for military expenditure is China with their highest annual expenditure sitting at 250 billion dollars and usually sits at 150 billion with Russia following as third with 69 billion dollars. 600 billion dollars annually is fucking ludacris. You can literally half that and still spend more than the closest competitor. Secondly I do not think that spending more at the military yields any protection from ww3 since usually the possession of weapons results in more violence rather than the contrary. Also considering the fact wars are fought differently now. Also with trump sitting in the oval office I would say the US is most likely to cause ww3 or at least another cold war rather than protect us from it. Anyways if you cant stay on top of the military game with 300 billion annually then there is some serious misexpenditure and mismanagement going on in the US' Military. I mean even cutting only a slight sliver out of that budget would yield a increase in infrastructure and healthcare quality and yank the US out of the 20th century that they seem to be so stubbornly stuck in.

[@varsam]

+DynamicX Dude you are only scratching the tip of the iceberg, this is too deep. Anything overthere is profit for companies, the goverment pay the companies make. They need 10 000 cases of amunition, the country pay to private company who will charge big time and deliver. At the same time from this hudge price a piece will go for the one that sighn the deal whit this company, some for the topper in comand and etc. You can check there army is not that big, even North Korea got bigger regular personal than the US. ... well i lied here but the diference is like 1-200 000 people from a 1 000 000. China another example, got 2 times bigger personal than the US and still pay so much less. +Pew The Blind rember my words in the near 2 years there will be another economic crisis and again will start from the US(the dept) and when your country cant take more ... well then the shit will hit the fan.

[@gordonmurray5962]

We've been telling Americans for many years that National Health is great, but most don't seem to believe that Canada is a real country.

[@karimtemri1664]

European healthcare is even better than Canadian one

[@boristhemouse5507]

Because your not.

[@Limemill]

In many provinces these days the wait times in ERs are horrific, though. Partially because many healthcare workers resigned during the pandemic, some have left for more money to the States, etc. It's nowhere near the NHS or any other similar nation-wide healthcare system in Britain or the EU, which are all A LOT faster and more efficient

[@MrStGeorgeIllawarra]

I can't be sure if 75% of them could fine Canada on a map.

[@LMB222]

Who doesn't think Canada is great? Just show me who said that ;)

[@garnauklaufen6704]

I am one of the Europeans who payed your treatment! (And I think it is totally justified, because I don't want for anyone to not get necessary treatment just because they're too poor to afford it.)

[@srccde]

@YugotSwaqedd Indeed. However, considering that most of the strangers that you're paying for have also payed, or still pay, exactly the same for when you need it, I think it all relativizes itself.

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

I too contributed to your treatment and am delighted to have done so. I've been in hospital too (I'm 74)-what goes around, comes around (and THAT's Democratic Socialism!).

[@su9549]

same here, very happy that my taxes were helpful for you, me and many others. feels much better to help someone get health care than to help fund a war!!

[@extendedwarandtea]

Europe has a healthcare system, the states have a healthcare business

[@r.brooks5287]

Each country in Europe has its own healthcare system.

[@MacHamish]

Europe just taxes its citizens to death.

[@BFF4FOREVER]

@@MacHamish did you mix up America and Europe? 😉

[@emucentral]

MacHamish Really. You know the worst place to do business in respect of taxes ? USA. Yep. Every state, county, municipality, it seems, has their own sales tax regime, requiring registration, filing returns, penalty notices if no return filed. I know a company, had paid a tax due of under $100 to one state for a market stall. Next year a fine for not submitting a return (even though there was no sales made or tax due). America smothers their citizens with paperwork. Oh, and America is the only country amongst western democracies, which taxes its citizens, even if they don't live & work in the USA. Once you take into account all the extra costs in the USA, the European income tax rates are more than favourable.

[@extendedwarandtea]

@@emucentral and in the european system, the tax you pay return to you in the form of good education, free healthcare and better infrastructure etc. And where does it go to in america? like im genuinely curious, i know the military spending is huge and people complain about the state of the roads etc. online but where does the rest go in order to help the citizens?

[@videogiocatore3]

Its amazing to me how mindblowing this actually sounds to americans. I currently live in Spain, I had a seizure some time ago, my friends called an ambulance, the ambulance got me in the hospital, where they tested me for everything. I just had to show my EU sanitary card. Final cost of this 0€ (well actually 4 euros for prescription pills). Sorry for the euro-brag lol

[@ghadrackpotato960]

I had to pay nearly 2,500 dollars for a a simple cyst removal, and my insurance covered the rest of the $12,000 bill, which I could have drained with an exacto knife at home if they told me ahead of time it would cost me the value of a car. But here in America you get really neat surprise bills when you get sick.. What is your life worth to you? How can we profit?

[@chasiah7101]

Ghadrack Potato that’s sad man holy shit

[@zee9709]

@@ghadrackpotato960 omg dude, i just do cyst removal too some month a go. It cost me about 100 in dollars, and im not insured.

[@ghadrackpotato960]

@@zee9709 A lot of doctors here are scam artists and crooks. I got bounced to three doctors for a specialist referral, I paid a hundred dollars out of pocket in co-pays just to see the general surgeon. Then he said he had to do the cyst removal in the hospital because it was on my scalp and might bleed a lot. Then where the bill went crazy is they used an "out of network" anesthesiologist during the procedure that ran up an extra $6,000. None of which was explained to me in advance, just Surprise!!! Here's your part of the bill after insurance a week later in the mail. All for a hat cyst as big as a marble I could have jabbed at home.

[@javiersanz29]

That EU sanitary card is really a good idea. Even though my family has a private health insurance, which kind of speeds up things, I'm so thankful I live in Spain where we have public healthcare. Although it used to be better (cut budgets from previous governments undermined it), the professionals who work there and the system in general prevent many people from being unattended. I am thankful to all of them.

[@daphnejager5641]

the us really is a third world country in a gucci belt

[@MrNeversweat]

Hahahah, truth

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

Not even 3rd world do this to their citizens, dumdum. Cheers from indonesia, 3rd world country with universal health care, $2 insulin, and paid sick, maternal and vacation leaves. Yes, vacations plural.

[@peterschancel7223]

I am Canadian . Great factual story . Listen up America Truth is out there . Private Healthcare is KILLING Americans

[@sandOstorm1]

Oh that's why so many Canadians get treated in the US (MI patients from Windsor regularly hauled over the border to be treated in Henry Ford Hospital in Dertroit...Detroit of all places)

[@peterschancel7223]

@@sandOstorm1 America has the worst record of killing newborns and children because of poor or lack of Healthcare in The Developed World . 33rd to be EXACT READ a Book Learn MRI/?? in One TOWN in Canada >> Really That" s your Argument ?? Thimk DEAD Children to age 5 Adults going too late to the DOCTOR Then HUGE Costs in Emergency Thank you my Friend

[@sandOstorm1]

@@peterschancel7223 MI (myocardial infarction) not MRI, you dummy!!

[@peterschancel7223]

@Hippy(Bboomer) Hello my friend ., Big Government is not out of Control . I voted for The NDP Better in Canada to have HeathCare for all than Make The Rich Richer and line lobyists and bribes THe Thing about Democracy is you elect them out in Canada.... America you are always in a 2 year electorial cycle costing billions and billions and never stops the political rhetoric. like picking at wounds that never heal

[@peterschancel7223]

@Hippy(Bboomer) Hello my Fellow CanadianThat was not the question or the statement . That is classic Right wing defection . I agree Bombidier bailouts SNC La , Fluffy( as I call him) The PM thows away feelgood Money like a Drunken Sailor The POINT is Canadian Healthcare is a Corner Stone of Canadian Society . and if you Think Healthcare for All is not for you you are Un Canadian and Think of moving to The US instead of Trumping Canada into That Dysfunctional Country . FOOTNOTE TRUMP has FUKED CANADA for BILLIONS Happy St Paddy's Day

[@mrhpijl]

An American: "I speak German and Spanish pretty well" Me: Wow multilingual Americans exist?!?

[@user-po6hn9id1t]

Yes, and more shocking is that there is an American who knows more geography than Europeans...

[@user-po6hn9id1t]

@Frank Burjan enter: Paul Barbato

[@chameleoncustoms737]

Mais, bien-sûr nous existons. Juste comme les gnomes. Lol. I'm 1/2 French & grew up in Europe for over 6 years as a child, yet can only speak 3 languages fluently (I do know a little of several more though). My mother, who is 100% Parisian (du 15ème quartier) speaks 9 (fluently, at that). So, compared to her I feel like I'm doing terribly, however compared to the average American, I'm doing fairly well on that, I think. Lol

[@tsfbaf303]

Michael Woods Good for you, it actually improves brain function

[@graup1309]

From my experience there's exactly two types of native English speakers. It's either "I don't speak a word of any other language" or "I speak 10 languages so flawless that native speakers can't detect me" there is no in-between

[@zentraveler1834]

The American health care system is built on capitalism. Why find a cure when you can find a customer.

[@TREYCEMONE]

EXACTLY. There's no money in a cure, but treatment is chi-ching! They have a customer for life.

[@yesjohndotcom3918]

Why hasn't cancer been cured by Europeans yet since they don't have to worry about customers?

[@Lea-ep1bi]

YesJohn DotCom Are you kind of stupid? That doesn't even have to do ANYTHING with a health care system.

[@yesjohndotcom3918]

@@Lea-ep1bi Exactly my point. I'm responding to "Why find a cure when you can find a customer." Do you not know how comments and replies work?

[@Lea-ep1bi]

YesJohn DotCom it's dumb either way. Doctors might cure cancer, but they certainly don't look for that cure.

[@ronaldfindlay8036]

My Son was critically injured in a motorcycle accident. He tore his brain collapsed both lungs. Bruised his heart and tore his spleen. Also he cracked his pelvis and possibly broke his neck. I was flying home from New Brunswick as I had gone out ther for the day when I recieved the call from the police at the airport. They said he was being taken to Sunnybrook hospital. Sunnybrook is on of two trauma centers in Toronto. When I arrived at the hospital I found him in the critical care unit. His face was just raw skin but I recognized him. I spoke with the doctor and he said we will leave the collar on till we get the brain swelling down to see if his neck is broken. He has a 50/50 chance of making it through the night. He and to my relief his neck was ok. To make a long story short. My son walked under his own power out of Sunnybrook 9 days later.. all of the follow up visits including trays cat scans etc were quick and very well executed. We never waited more than 15 min for any of the specialists or scans. It took him 2 years for his brain to fully recover but unless someone told you about his accident you would never know. The total cost to me for all the fire trucks Ambulance and treatment in the trauma centre... $ 0 The cost for all the follow up visits with the neurosurgeon and bone specialists $ 0 dollars.

[@dubious6718]

In USA you would be either bankrupt or had to work 2 jobs to pay off the debt

[@ronaldfindlay8036]

@@dubious6718 That's true in the US I would have recieved a bill for approximately $ 480,000 .

[@statosphereonline2008]

@@ronaldfindlay8036 I am surprised suicide rates aren't higher in the US with that level of debt. I would feel absolutely defeated financially by that burden.

[@fredh999harris8]

Under the American system the worry caused by being bankrupted probably would have killed him - and his parents.

[@ros2456]

I am an Australian and I would like to tell you my experience with our medical system. 20 years ago my 2 month old son contracted bacterial meningitis and we had to be flown 600 km to Sydney by Careflight. The plane which was sent to collect us carried a specialist paediatric dr and nurse. When we arrived at Sydney airport we were transported by ambulance to the Children's Hospital where my son spent 12 days on a ventilator in the Paediatric Intensive Care Unit. During the 49 days he was hospitalised he needed three brain surgeries and the doctor who performed these was the the top paediatric neurosurgeon in the state. He also needed occupational therapists, physios, audioligists, opthamologists and the list goes on and on. The charge for all of his amazing treatment was $0 thanks to Medicare and I often say if we were living in America when this had happened to our family we would have had to sell our house to cover the bills. I don't understand why all Americans are not demanding Universal Health Care as a basic human right.

[@Trikipum]

Because the concept of "human right" is very alien for americans...

[@PoolOfTrees]

Jeez. I hope he is fully recovered now and that there were no lasting effects.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

Because half of the politicians have brainwashed the public into believing that healthcare for everyone is going to make us all communists. They ignore the fact that we have police, firefighters, road workers, etc. that all work in the same way.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

I'm in Victoria. My wife had a $20,000 jaw surgery covered by Medicare. If we were in America, we'd have been fucked.

[@valeriaceballos6974]

We are but our politicians are full of Sh!t

[@samuelrichards9213]

The US is not a country it's a business.

[@PierresVLOG]

So true... If the online store Amazon were a country it would be USA

[@stefans.6858]

The CEO needs to be replaced.

[@doublewidesurprise6016]

Well then the business is more powerful than every other country on the planet

[@thewizzard3150]

""@@doublewidesurprise6016 it's actually a company called the "Fed" and if it was all that powerful you would be living in a proper house not a double wide!

[@doublewidesurprise6016]

I love my double wide

[@evaj.4328]

I have to comment on this video. I'm from Europe, and I was in the USA for 7 months as a student. I had to go to the hospital for a very bad stomach pain with other symptoms. They took me to a small room with a bed and asked me what is the problem, then I had to wait. I had to give them my urine so they can check that I'm telling the truth that I didn't take any drugs. What? I never ever experienced something like that in European countries. After that, another two people came in and I had to tell them the same story (where I have my pain when it began and so on). After that, again, I had to wait for another two people that I had to tell the same story again and again. So, for this, I had to pay almost 2.000 dollars. Yes, you read correctly, 2.000 dollars. For nothing. After almost one hour of waiting and telling the same story, again and again, they just told me that I have to go to a specialist. And for this, they charged me 2.000 dollars. Fortunately, my European health insurance paid it all back to me. So yes that is my experience with the USA healthcare. It's a big joke, they charge you so much money for absolutely nothing, they even don't help you and send you somewhere else. If I would have something serious, I will be dead by now.

[@AmbyJeans]

Eva J. That's our "system" right there in a nutshell. And to the political party in charge, if you even suggest that you shouldn't have to deal with that, you're called a spoiled entitled millennial that just wants handouts and everything for free. It's sickening, it is truly truly sickening. It's such a relief to see these comments from other countries. I agree with people all over the world more than my fellow countrymen (and women).

[@sergiofernandez4566]

@@AmbyJeans I think that you would improve your cohesion as a society just by doing It the way european states do: less sense of injustice, less violence and rage, this is patriotism: taking care of your people.

[@katrand5357]

In Chicago, I'm a US citizen, and got charged the same for ER visit and they did absolutely nothing and sent me off as sick as when I came in

[@jamesbon1]

Sounds like you walked into my cousin Guido’s travel agency. It looks like a European clinic. They saw you coming...

[@563rsdegj]

Eva J. Had similar experience

[@jorgecervantesmj]

In the US I paid $1.000 USD per month for Kaiser Permanente health care policy with a $5.000 deductible. I pay first $5K out of pocket. In Spain I pay €117 per month. No deductible and €2 per visit. I receive outstanding health care in Spain. In US the statin drug cost $100 for 28 pills. In Spain the same pills cost €5.

[@lifeofkarl4452]

Ya man its crazy how much it costs here, my dad pays $1200 a month for health insurance, similiar deductible.

[@blindbrick]

I guess that is what you get when every politician tries to win votes by lowering taxes and shrinking the government. Eventually the system dies due to anorexia.

[@bengaljam4550]

I live in America and pay $600 a year for my health insurance and there is no deductible. Co pay on most drugs are usually less than $10. Wife had over $250,000 in cancer treatments and they paid every penny.

[@blindbrick]

@@bengaljam4550 Wow, You could help a lot of people by letting them know where and how You are insured.

[@bengaljam4550]

@@blindbrick Its a metlife policy through my work. One of the main reasons I accepted the position. They match my 401 K also up to 10%.

[@joanbowden7634]

I had my daughter in a German hospital. Omg, the difference between the care I received there versus the US was like night & day. On the Saturday b4 she was due the dr. called me up at home & wanted me to come in bc my hormone levels were to low for a woman about to deliver, so off I go. I figured I'd be at the lab for a few minutes & be back home soon. As it turned out I spent the next 2 - 3 hrs being examined by the actual Dr. not some pimply faced resident. And he actually spent that entire time with me! Not calling it in from some damned golf course. What really blew my mind was when he actually went & got me a cup of coffee! He was an absolute delight to spend a Saturday afternoon with!

[@_erik_2138]

@Mikael Jensen 1. Where does she say that Scandinavians are socialists? 2. She was in Germany, Germany doesn't have anything to do with Scandinavia

[@_erik_2138]

@Mikael Jensen I mean I didn't need that information but I guess there are some Americans who might need it but I'm not American, I'm from Europe and know that we're not socialist

[@epsonprinter9797]

@@_erik_2138 nah, germans are just Mainland Scnadinavians. Yes some diffrences, but you cant divide them by their faces.

[@_erik_2138]

@@epsonprinter9797 did you just assume my nationality

[@Madddin23]

@@epsonprinter9797 You can`t divide us by faces? Never heard such a shit.

[@ZoggFromBetelgeuse]

For an Europran, hearing about health care in the US is like watching a Star Trek episode about Fetengi society.

[@tahirmehdi]

When are you going to do a new video? :)

[@OkiefromMuskogee323]

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra! #TrekForever #PicardbetterthanKirk

[@fex144]

@@OkiefromMuskogee323 It's not Fetengi, it's Meringue!

[@OkiefromMuskogee323]

@@fex144 It's Ferengi, and you replied to the wrong person.

[@fex144]

@@OkiefromMuskogee323 they change youtube all the f'ing time. It's not Ferengi, I'm pretty sure it is Meringue.

[@cridgemcking2471]

Feeling dizzy? Book a ticket to Europe.

[@edthejester]

It will be cheaper, apparently

[@stecrs22]

edthejester I was thinking the same haha

[@abishaek6760]

Now it's not the good time!

[@natzooo895]

feeling dizzy ? just don't eat fucking unhealty food u fat fucks in usa lmao

[@squeezerD]

Cridge McKing feelings stay in your fucking country..

[@Ethrax2]

I spent 13 days in hospital, 3 days in ICU for meningococcal sepsis in Sweden, my total bill was US $195. That was for the meals and bed, and wifi. I'm not gonna pretend the meals were good, I'm fat so even if I had some choices, there were a lot of sallad, white fish and lean meals... Can't blame them there. And the wonderful nurses, since I was in -total- isolation, no visits, no nothing, brought newspapers and treats from their lunchroom. Sometimes a smoothie, sometimes a muffin. A late night coffee and sandwish. It was very appreciated. I had to pay an extra $89 for like 4 subscription meds when I left. And they fully compensated the cost of the Taxi that brought me home, since there was no busses late at night. I can't even stress how 5/5 I would rate it, fresh clean clothes every day, cleaners that looked like Martians in their suits... Still friendly and joking around.

[@leonab545]

Wow imagine being treated like a person… why Americans keep insisting on supporting on a system that isn’t built for the people.

[@mroof523]

Here is a fun fact. When my dad had an appendicitis at like 2 AM in the morning and had go into the ICU for over a week, the care he got was on par or better than what you said. His condition was so bad that he would not have made it in most places but here he survived with no complications. And the total cost for all of the days in the ICU and and ambulance and the very nice food he got was less than $1000 out of pocket. The rest was covered by insurance. Why would Americans support a system if it made everyone poor who used it? We have so many systems for the poor over here to have affordable Healthcare. Nobody is going homeless because of a broken arm. Thats what you Europeans don't understand. The Swiss Healthcare system is alot like America's too, if you cared to look into it.

[@Ethrax2]

@@mroof523 This is the dumbest shit I ever read. So he "only had to pay $1000" because a good health insurance... What do you pay with a shitty health insurance or none at all? I don't have an insurance, i don't need one. And did you just confuse Sweden for Switzerland wtf?

[@andersrefstad8235]

​@@mroof523 1000 USD ..! Out of pokcet. Insane

[@diesel4ever273]

​@@mroof523 I am Portuguese, I have a friend who wants to go to the USA, I am also wondering if it would be better or worse than here in Europe, and the Healthcare and workers rights scare me in the USA. What do you do if you lose your job because your employer feels like it? Does the government help you in any way or are you screwed?

[@EvilTwin559]

ER visit with X-rays in Holland $96. ER visit with X-rays in U.S. $1750. In Holland 30-60 min wait time. In U.S. 3-4 hour wait time. Anyone else see the problem?

@lilly lazer In Finland the meds are free after $600 annually. So after you have paid $600 during a calendar year, rest of the year the meds are free. And if you are poor, even that $600 is covered by the state.

[@Aprikuusi2003]

@lilly lazer you should move to Finland lol. Oulu is a good city.

[@Aprikuusi2003]

@lilly lazer what do you do for a living? Just asking out of curiosity

[@Aprikuusi2003]

@lilly lazer :)

[@Viper-ut4oz]

It's cheaper to book a flight to Europe and get an ER visit there.

[@ElisaFrueh]

Wow as a german i was watching this and was thinking "oh no, another 20€ just for the xray and ooohh damn 60€ for WHAT" and he goes "that was so cheap" xD

[@floweroflove1994]

ichsohalt Yeah, omg. Same here. 😂

[@enemdisk6628]

ichsohalt same here. Haha. Also with the wait time at emergency I was like „oh god, poor kid“ ;-)

[@angellarreal2172]

When people say you got that good service for free I think "no, it's not" you already payed for it with your taxes. I'm not even american, is it true that taxes for an average German are much higher that for americans?

[@ElisaFrueh]

i dont know the average taxes of an american. but i got 2 children, one of them needed surgery after birth (4 hour operation) and a one month stay at the hospital with intensive care from time to time and i paid 60€ for that. (i paid the 60€ for a bigger room in the hospital so i could stay close to my son, one month) Im fine with my taxes ^^

[@angellarreal2172]

ichsohalt First of all, I'm glad your kids are fine! It's good to know good things happen to people! - I'm a freelancer in Guatemala and I pay 15% just for income tax, and in Mexico employees pay 25% for healthcare and other stuffs that I, as a freelancer, don't have.

[@pruibiebehastoet1914]

Thanks to propaganda, many Americans believe their healthcare system is the best in the world.. They don't understand they're screwed, ripped off and put on drugs because it's profitable for big pharma

[@marcia7107]

American here. BELIEVE me, I don't think any such thing. We're totally screwed. 61 years ago, I was born with a heart defect and respiratory issues that I've had to live with, running from collection agencies and switching jobs constantly, just to keep from being homeless from the bills. Because of these pre-existing conditions, BEFORE the ACA/Medicaid program, I could not afford insurance or would be accepted PERIOD. Now tRump has destroyed the ACA almost completely and I can't get the testing done for 2 surgeries (arthritic bone spurs growing into my spinal canal and 10 yrs sgo, a complete tear of my right rotator cuff). The first will paralyze me shortly, the second is so torn up from just isolating it fir three months, then working lifting patients - so now the whole shoulder has to be replaced. If we would have had National Healthcare, as a right, I'd be working now. Instead, I'm disabled for two years and the paralysis is causing breathing issues, so I'm on oxygen. Doesn't my government realize it would have been much cheaper to treat me when I was younger, less damaged? Its sheer idiocy, just like the Fat Orange Pig sitting in the White House, ranting and raving at his Hate Rallies like Hitler, that my Dad fought in WWII. History teaches absolutely NOTHING to those who do not know it, much less learn from it. Very Sad!

[@pruibiebehastoet1914]

@YugotSwaqedd Sorry to hear about your knee. Why don't you consider having the surgery done in another country ? Bangkok (as an example) is known for good quality healthcare and it'll probably cost a lot less

[@Trikipum]

It is crazy what they do with kids... they even use mental illness that actually dont even exists in Europe.. It is that sick, they invent shit so they can medicate the kids more for pill's dollars...

[@geovani8028]

People in your country seem to think socialooogy is the same as comminisum or something. Like they are afraid to discuss it. No federal cheos from taxes so that may make a difference.

[@adobotravels]

Making money in America is not that hard but in the long run, it's better to live elsewhere and have a comfortable life with your savings :)

[@Cod4Wii]

Free universal healthcare = something every 1st world country has (including some 3rd world countries) but something the USA doesn't have, for reasons only greed and corruption can answer.

[@florian9540]

I mean "free" isnt really true. As a german, the normal workforce has to pay ~7-8% (the maximum is 560€ in total/mo if i recall correctly ) of there paycheck with the very same amount paid by the employer. It is nice to have, but i think that it is sometimes being labeld wrong.

[@Cod4Wii]

@@florian9540 Americans pay taxes too but seems like all the tax money just going to rich politicians and wars.

[@florian9540]

@@Cod4Wii I know that you pay tax haha. What i meant to say is, that there is a dedicated SoocialSecurity Tax, which is split up into healtcare and 4 other branches. By far the largest portion (~7-8 out of 14% (?)) goes to your health insurance company. No middle man in between. Btw, sry for my writing skills. Speaking is not a problem, but gramma and so on...^^

[@Cod4Wii]

@@florian9540 Good to know, thanks..

[@nqqbix6128]

Yup, richest nation on the planet should join the majority that is slacking behind, I guess they're ahead in everything for no reason and should just be like the rest

[@burtlangoustine1]

Healthcare is Healthcare, not a business: Well done Europe

[@theSammyM333]

Álvaro de Bazán You pay taxes in USA too, but money goes to war machine, space, bank bailouts, Koch brothers... But kids go to molded schools, parents work without health coverage, elders and invalids live on streets... So which government stealing plan u like more?

[@cheyennew811]

I work in EMS. Healthcare is a business and someone has to pay whether insurance, out of pocket, or as in Europe with enormous taxes. Medical equipment is expensive in every country on Earth and so is the training and education needed to provide medical care.

[@theSammyM333]

So how enormous those taxes really are? Isn´t the bigger problem with wages? In USA you can pay from workhour as low as 7,25$ and that´s only the legal pay limit. That is truly horrific situation to be in. Scared that you get ill and lose your job and have to pay hundreds of dollars to get healthy so you can work again with minimum wage that isn´t enough for basic living. USA is the richest country and could end poverty any time, but no. That would end class society that makes rich even richer from the backs of minimum wage workers.

[@williamblake1732]

Still better than America's for profit healthcare for those who can afford it............so F off

[@bikegypsy268]

+James Hodges you're clueless. Americans get fucked up the ass BECAUSE it's treated as a business. Keep your head in the sand moron.

[@jacintahiggins6948]

I am a Kiwi and I hurt my back at Munich (Germany) airport while rushing to a connecting flight with my husband (flight ended up delayed anyway). I was in agony. Within 5 mins a motorized medical trolley appeared and I was put on a stretcher and taken down to a large health clinic. I was immediately seen by a doctor; x-rayed and given pain relief. I received a wonderful massage; was given a container of anti-inflammatory/pain-relieving pills and then taken back upstairs in the medi-trolley. Whereupon they put myself and my husband into a car with flashing lights and drove us out onto the tarmac to the foot of the plane. I was then helped to board. I honestly don't recall that we paid anything at all. If we did it must have been a very small amount. The Germans are soo efficient and wonderful friendly people. I love visiting there. In New Zealand and Australia where I currently live we have universal healthcare too (as does most of the civilized world). The US system is barbaric and morally wrong. Healthcare for profit should be outlawed.

[@0thepyat0]

"The US system is barbaric and morally wrong Healthcare for profit should be outlawed." Word!!!!!

[@claeswelinder2014]

Great example! Don’t understand how some people can argue against it.

[@Nilguiri]

But how are they going to give billionaires trillions of dollars in tax cuts and invade dozens of random countries and subsidise the genocide in Palestine and Yemen if people aren't ripped off and made bankrupt when they have a cold or they scratch their knee?

[@user-in1gn6fw2eab]

Healthcare is a human right! Americans should consider changing their System to one similar to european ones. Social healthcare is not socialism!

[@JAMEZSP117]

Look at the population difference between the USA and various EU countries. It will cost $34 trillion to run over 1 decade. We can't afford that.

[@biancapopa7476]

@@JAMEZSP117 if you tax the rich ,you would afford that

[@JAMEZSP117]

@@biancapopa7476 tax them until they decide to pack up and leave. Thus taking all of their wealth and a lot of job opportunities with them.

[@biancapopa7476]

@@JAMEZSP117 they wont leave.The money that will be taxed will only make them take one less vacation

[@JAMEZSP117]

@@biancapopa7476 if you tax them at the 47.5-52.5% someone like Bernie is proposing aka half of their income they'll definitely leave.

[@gianglai6242]

When patriotic people come with "But the tax increases!" just say "Don't you wanna support America?"

[@neutronalchemist3241]

What most Americans don't get is that they are already paying universal healtcare with their taxes, only without having it. Medicare and Medicaid, that partially covers only a fraction of US citizens, costs 6.8% of US GDP. British HNS, that completely covers British citizens, and even visitors, costs 7.1% of British GDP.

[@TheReRave]

pro-tip: Slash the military budget by the amount you need for all those extraterritorial wars you're causing and leading.

[@cursedcliff7562]

@@TheReRave but they wont be able to afford the 15262517th abrams this month D:

[@benparr7310]

But they want to support themselves

[@trollnerd]

The people who think this way are incredibly stupid. In the USA we have lower taxes, but we have many "private taxes". Things like health care, child care, parental leave, and other things that are essential parts of life and are guaranteed by taxes in other countries, we still have to pay for those things here, we just have to pay for them from our post-tax salary and it costs us 5x as much

[@Bopflix]

Good job posting this - what you experienced is a completely normal day to day service for us across Europe. We look across the pond at the US healthcare system with pity and despair. Please don't believe the lies, you are being conned, what you have is close to medieval. People over profit.

[@cleverexpert2]

Bopflix but if i may ask what is your tax rate there like where i live its only 6.5%. Dont get me wrong i want uhc but if your tax rate is a lot higher you are "spending" thqt money anyway

[@diceman199]

The US government already spends as much per person on healthcare as the UK and australian governments do. So Americans already pay as much as we do in their tax for this. The difference is we get something for it. There is a bar chart part way down that shows private and public spending per head. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

[@jpw6893]

Clever Expert2 Which tax are you referring to? It has been mentioned but the US government does spend tax money on healthcare. Almost as much as we do and on top of that you pay for private health which is about profit. Drugs are expensive there so, it's a vicious circle.

[@derpionderpson1424]

Bopflix only issue i have with the information is about the wait time, while wait time at a local doctor seems likely to be what he experienced, it would be far longer then 1 hour on average at a hospital. But as I said that is the only issue, other then that it tends to be efficient, good quality and cheap if not free.

[@Tonixxy]

Clever Expert2 sure, now add federal, state, sales, property taxes on top of that. Plus health insurance. What is the % then?

[@SerxRox]

In europe, when we hear you in the US got an accident (lets say you crashed with your bike) and you have to pay up to 5k for an ambulance and a medical team to pick you up, we don't understand how can you live in peace. I wouldnt leave my house, literally I'd live in a buble

[@dubstepforever99]

I would scream at anyone calling for an ambulance i would rather walk on one foot home

[@he_cat]

@@dubstepforever99 true. It's like "if I call the ambulance now, I can say goodbye to my fucking car. Or I just try to wall home with a broken foot."

[@chrispetets3683]

In the US when we hear of your globalised union we think you're crazy too don't worry about us well be fine you have plenty of problems of your own.

[@MaidikIslarj]

@@chrispetets3683 Ooh triggered Yank. This ladies and gentleman is a fine specimen...

[@TallisKeeton]

Well, in Poland there is this obligation (when someone is old or very sick) for ambulance pick up such person to hospital even for a day to day care. Ppl can drive their own car but when the ambu gets for them its like they dont have to wait too much to be cared for in hospital, they go first bc ambu picked them up from home.

[@ProfezorSnayp]

European healthcare is a public service, the American healthcare is a business.

[@Rebellen007]

Spot on. 100%.

[@Kenmanhl]

Summed it up in one sentence

[@stephenmurray2851]

Profezor Snayp As it should be. European healthcare is theft and extortion. Stealing my money to pay for other people. We should be allowed to opt out.

[@ProfezorSnayp]

Don't forget other crime syndicates constantly stealing your money: the police, fire department, postal offices and public schools. Sure, whatever you say... :/

[@stephenmurray2851]

Profezor Snayp The difference is that those are essential. I need the police and the fire brigade. Those services would not work privatized. The NHS would. Just don't take national insurance of me and I won't use the NHS. It should be my right. If you want to pay for the NHS then do so but I should not be robbed like this.

[@gardinselmer1005]

Unfortunatly corporations have brainwashed Americans into believing that universal health care is some kind of socialist communist concept. I'm proudly Canadian and enjoy great health care.

[@davidgiles5030]

Me too.

[@ChrisPowell-TNPEX]

A few years ago, I had severe food poisoning in Hong Kong. It was so bad, I was puking like a waterfall, I had muscle seizures, I was doubled up and couldn't function. I was put into an ambulance and taken to emergency. I had no idea where I was, I was really vague and dizzy. I was still puking so hard, the staff put, what was effectively a plastic horse bag over my head, because I just couldn't stop heaving. The doctors got a little worried and took me to have an X-ray in case I'd damaged anything internally (it came out ok). They injected me with a couple of things, took blood tests and checked my blood pressure regularly. I was given a sort of set of pyjamas to keep me warm (I felt very cold) and was kept in overnight and given drips to rehydrate. So, some 24+ hours later I felt considerably better and decided to discharge myself to go back to the hotel. I was worried about the cost but when I asked what the damage for all this might be and they said, "Nothing" (as it was an emergency)! There are some very civilised countries in the world.

[@jaymcd8577]

awesome story

[@clarissagafoor5222]

Chris Powell those grey and white generic pj's we have here in Hong Kong? Love 'em! Plus the blue padded jacket if it's cold...glad our system was able to look after you.

[@MrKosobi]

BUT MUH FREEDOM!

[@jlw22356]

Just America isn't civilised.

[@ChrisPowell-TNPEX]

Yep!

[@suhdude9775]

I don’t get how people can hate on countries such as Sweden for their health insurance and calling it “communism”. When a country is that rich and a greatly developing economy, why wouldn’t you have (almost) free healthcare. Here people who are sick actually get help and don’t have to decline medical treatment because they can’t afford a ridiculous amount of money for something small. It’s crazy imo

[@martinapetrovic159]

sweden is a lost country at this point.

[@jakob4414]

fourroses foryou Why?

[@martinapetrovic159]

Germans dont appreciate their health care because its almost free, and because of that the doctor treat their patients within a few minutes not even listening to them. People here go to the doctors with just little things, and people who are really sick dont get the treatment they deserve

[@suhdude9775]

@@martinapetrovic159 oh yeah? explain why, cause that's one bold statement to make.

[@martinapetrovic159]

@@suhdude9775 what exactly do you want me to explain?

[@keithh3103]

I live in Germany now. Back in 2007 a infection started in my armpits and worked it's was down to my groin. As I started to worry about it, I was too afraid to go to the doctor as I didn't have insurance. I come from New Zealand and I had overstayed my visa and had absolutely no money. My german girlfriend at the time noticed this and sent me straight to the doctor saying that there is a plan where maybe her insurance could cover me. After a 10min phone call to her insurance company, they sent me straight to a specialist. Being a overstayed which I didn't tell my girlfriend, I worried the whole time. With no questions about my status, the doctor checked out my infection and told me I need a operation immediately. Within 2 days of my first doctor visit I was in the hospital operation theatre. They had to do 2 operations at different times. All in all I spent 3 months in hospital as an illegal an alian without any questions. Upon the hospital discharge I went home and my girlfriend told me, now we wait for the hospital bill. Naturally worring the whole time for the bill in the mail, it finally came. She wasn't there at the time as we lived apart. So for one week I kept the unopened bill a secret for fare of a massive bill. She dicided to ring her insurance company with me standing next to her, and they told her they sent the bill to my own address as I was the recipient for the operation. The call must have taken all of 2minutes at which point she said to a shaking me, your 3month hospital stay will cost you €90 including the nurse that had to come and change my bandages 2 times a day. Her insurance took care of everything. Needless to say, we married. My reckless ways are over these days, and thanks to the German system. It took this long to realise my unreliablities. I've learnt alot from this experience and I thank the socialized system everyday as I was prepared to die in a foreign country. But they helped me. Especially when I had nothing.

[@Jens94]

Oh my god, that's an awesome story!

[@ingenueee]

America would let a foreigner die. Or deport them while that person needs a surgery. This is the world we live in now. There is serious human rights violating day to day int he US.TO ITS OWN CITIZENS.

[@maxst9561]

@@ingenueee in germany if u dont take care of someone with a live threatening illness and somebody finds that out, you probably will never work as a doctor in Europe ever again

[@ingenueee]

@@maxst9561 and that is how it should be. Tell this to some Americans:(

[@jesuisannesophierb749]

@@maxst9561 yes it's true in France it's the same. If you let someone die because of his lack of money I can assure you that this doctor will end up in jail for some time and will never practice medecine again.

[@dimeFFM]

I swear, when you started to laugh at the 10€ for the painkiller I kinda laughed along because it's an incredibly high price. for the whole video I didn't know how to react about the *high* prices you were talking about until you mentioned the US prices. I'm kinda shocked.

[@Pig.._]

As an american, 10€ for painkillers without insurance sounds like an amazing price. Although I haven't experienced much of the cost side to the american system ig that still says a lot of the american system.

[@milosblagojevic5899]

I guess it was because he was a tourist

[@KingHayabusa384]

In Switzerland the prices would have been even higher.

[@lennyholland7596]

And this is not socialism. It is solidarity, and it is smart.We leave no sick person behind. No matter what.

[@AnonEyeMouse]

Well it IS socialism. As a socialist I have to say it's the core of what we stand for.

[@Christian-rn1ur]

AnonEyeMouse It's not socialism if I like it. My republican overlords told me socialism is bad, therefore this can't be socialism. Checkmate, atheists!

[@Christian-rn1ur]

Frank Heuvelman Socialism is the root of all evil. I know this because God Emperor Trump said so - that's all I need to know. I could research it and find out for myself, but the LIBERAL FAKE MEDIA lies and you can't trust all of those LIBERAL academics with their so-called facts. That's why I get all of my information from trustworthy sources, like Alex Jones and Breitbart, like a true American. CHEESEBURGERS AND GUNS. FACTS ARE FAKE NEWS. MAGA.

[@Nomnomnom165]

No Name LET'S MAKE THE FROGS STRAIGHT AGAIN

[@happydeamon]

Comic blaster. Frogs have angled legs so they can jum, and curved bodies because it makes it easyer to swim.... straight frogs would be very ineffient!

[@amhk5918]

It's so funny to see all the Americans go off in the comments "You don't have free health care, you have to pay taxes". My dudes, I don't think you realize that we pay our taxes willingly. Yes it's not nice to look at how much is missing from your paycheck, but it's better that going homeless for a broken foot. Like HOW do you not realize that xD The US are a rich third world country tbh

[@aaabbott1383]

Hahhahahahahahahahahahahaa

[@Mcanijo]

True

[@maozedong44]

The "funny" thing is americans spend the most per capita on their healthcare system, theyre just not getting anything in return for it.

[@robroodenburg8051]

i don't like paying taxes :-/

[@davidmpoliveira1]

(Portugal) Also...we don’t pay taxes just for healthcare. We pay taxes for an entire roll of services. Healthcare, safety, and education.

[@johnwalsh3635]

Citizens of the USA are being lied to about socialised health care.

[@LaWendeltreppe]

If it was only this. There are also being lied to about everything else: "We need death penalty" or "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a weapon is a good guy with a weapon" or "A greedy pussygrabber can make your country great again!" Haha.

[@PhunknA]

People here have been lied to about so many things so often, that in many situations you can't even trust those you know best because everyone here has been so conditioned and raised on lies. It's quite sad.

[@b.k.9797]

John Walsh I live in America and you are correct.

[@marcia7107]

@@PhunknA Raised on racist BS, yes.

[@jamiebarnes3531]

I know there are a hundred stories here already, but I believe it is time for Americans to wake up and take a stand. I am a Canadian. I live in southern Ontario. Our provincial healthcare is called OHIP. Ontario Health Insurance Plan. I have had many doctor and hospital visits in my 48 years. I have had back surgery, hospital stays for up to two weeks for various injuries and complications. I have had multiple Xrays, CT scans, MRIs, blood work. I have seen countless specialists. With all that I have never once paid a penny out of pocket nor have I ever even thought about it. Yes our taxes are high but we are all still here thriving. I should add that we still pay for dental and vision care and prescription drugs out of pocket unless you have insurance through your job. Also, we do have private insurance that you can choose to pay into if you like along with having your OHIP. We have some of the best medical care and hospitals in the world. Ask yourself...would you rather pay a bit more taxes and never have worry about your bill when it comes in? Or keep going the way you are and let your government tell you Universal Healthcare is a sham while they reap the rewards. If your government really cared about you, they would stop lying to you.

[@erinfarnes]

Lived in England for 3 years and had a baby there too. Excellent care. It was so nice to work whatever job I could find because I didn’t have to worry about healthcare. That alone did wonders for my mental health and was the start of me changing from a conservative to a liberal.

[@annonymouse2853]

Erin Farnes oh no being liberal means you think everyone should be able to come to UK to benefit. What then happens is what is happening now and people think they can come here illegally and abuse our systems. Esp our healthcare. Why should my parents, grandparents have to move down the queue for someone who has never paid into our system. Liberalism just doesn’t work.

[@wiktor.]

@@annonymouse2853 firstly, being liberal means equality and freedom for everyone. secondly, the NHS was made to provide healthcare for everyone who can or can not afford it, this could be a lone parent family or an asylum seeker. thirdly, your parents or grandparents won't move down the list because healthcare isn't first come, first served (there ain't no list) - it is determined via priority and necessity, there is a reason why if you call the ambulance and you state you have a small headache they will ask you if it affects any of your motor functions and if it does then they will send an ambulance.

[@ira1420]

I am European and 80 euros seem a little bit too large as a price lol

[@causeeu4303]

Lupo Astronomico I’d say having to pay for anything is to expensive

[@royk7712]

if it in the usa, 3 time seeing doctor, 2 prescription and xray, that like 1-5k

[@MarkSmith-vo1vn]

He’s a foreigner to be fair, he does not pay the taxes idk if that affects the cost, however

[@Benjamin-bj6xj]

He’s not an eh citizen so he isn’t covered for free care, of course here in Europe we care about foreigners so we still don’t charge the fuck out of them, just enough

[@danilopanzano]

@@MarkSmith-vo1vn I had been living in Italy, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands. Italians are stunned when we have to pay more than 10 EUR and if we take our health card (given to all citizens for free) with us we don't have to pay anything but prescriptions in EU as price is covered by our country, our homeless get treated for free, immigrants are treated for free so yeah, 80 EUR seems like a lot to Italians, we expect that kind of price after a 7-8 months hospital bed rest but only if your wealth is beyond some high threshold or you need some 1 in a billion like prescription (rare genetic conditions and such that have never been considered by the national healthcare system because, you know, numbers).

[@DavidDeblaere]

Healthcare and Education. The basics for a developed country. Two things that ruin you financially in America

[@elsbethsteele9285]

It would be thousands in the US. Not hundreds.

[@Nautilus1972]

No. The Military, and renting your currency from the Federal Reserve is what bankrupts you.

[@Pestbringer89]

education? not really. the average german is stupid as hell.

[@spikeychris]

Sorry but what has British homeless statistics got to do with the cost of healthcare? That's some classic whataboutism right there. In terms of our homeless statistics we have on average 4751 people sleeping rough on any given night in the UK. The 300,000 number comes from including people who aren't actually sleeping rough but would be considered homeless. Anyway on the topic of healthcare the US spends more public money on it's healthcare system than the UK does and the UKs healthcare system is free at point of use (it is also significantly better for the average person).

[@AndyAttrition]

Gorgon true but still four times smarter than the average american.

[@artweldon]

As an American expat living in Amsterdam for years....I appreciate how good health care is here. Even people who lose their job or are homeless get good care.

[@Oroshimisu]

Why shouldn"t they get good care is the question Americans need to ask themself

[@orcaflotta7867]

Exactly: You loose your job --> unemployment insurance takes over your health insurance payment. Simple as that.

[@idasiek]

UK here. Last year I ended up in A&E (Emergency Room) on Saturday night, had urine and blood tests, was put on the drip and given pain killers, in the morning they did CT Scan to confirm diagnosis, then transported me in ambulance to another hospital in London for treatment. Gave me morphine and antibiotics that day and said they'll tell me what will be done next day as they wanted to see if antibiotics would help with infection first. Took a turn to worse, was given oxygen at night and Monday morning I was prepped for 1st operation, I was told I'd also need 2nd non emergency one later. I was in the hospital for few more days after operation, then was given a date for 2nd operation (4 weeks later), given all meds I'd need for another 4 weeks and sent home. Came back 4 weeks later, had another operation and was given prescription and told I'll need to come back every few months for follow up after. In total I paid £9 - for that second prescription. That's all. I was off work for total of 6 weeks, had 20 full paid days off sick by my employer, one week was paid from my holiday(I was on my way to the holiday when this happened) and rest (1 week) paid half pay. If it happened in US I'd be in debt for the rest of my life or dead.

[@utoobia6872]

WOW £9. Here in the US that CT Scan alone is about $4000 and the doctors love putting patients in them for any reason possible. And yes, you'd be in debt for a long time. Most Americans are one hospital visit away from financial ruin.

[@sauldean6430]

America has the most cruel system towards it's own citizens than any other country on earth.

[@klausbrinck2137]

Ye, the only consolation is, that America is even more cruel to foreigners, like Iraqis or Afgans, for example...

[@BoldOne8760]

Well that's the thing, America doesn't even have a system. The government just let's people and businesses go crazy on each other.

[@jedisith3864]

America doesn't have citizens, it has propaganda fed drones that are milked

[@AmbyJeans]

WhoDarestheMAN gamer It's not just bc of Trump though. He really is a symptom and not a cause. The GOP especially has been behaving like heartless authoritarians for quite a while now.

[@williampennjr.4448]

We've been trying to get rid of liberals but they wont leave like they promise.

[@MyViiVa]

The German system is made for their citizens. The American one is made for profit.

[@geminix365]

To then put into war financiation the double they do put into health and education combined

[@PLF...]

Kris Tofer > pretty much everything you said is wrong. Jeez, get out of your bubble once in a while. Immigrants make the us more money than they cost, you pay more than we do in taxes that go towards healthcare, yet you get almost nothing back. I have free healthcare, free education (I actually get paid to study) and everything else youve read about. I pay 37% income tax, and thats it. No sales tax, even my transportation is funded. Please dont try to put down things you know nothing about. Which apparently includes the ACA.

[@axemanracing6222]

He is talking about immigrants that come to europe. Immigrants that go to the US want to WORK!

[@sillyputty7641]

PLF oh you must be a communist!😆

[@TheChill001]

Kris Tofer, we do pay higher taxes on our wages, but in the end the difference isn't that big, just flip our taxes for healthcare with the US taxes for defense, lol

[@d353rt3ur]

The US-Americans just can't get the health system right. they call it COMMUNISM. it's barbarian.

[@joanbowden7634]

EXACTLY!

[@SedatKPunkt]

I also don't get it that they call it Communism. And I don't get it that millions of Americans believe all that crap. I don't get it either, that the working class vote against their best interest and elect Trump and other thieves from the Republican Party. What's in their brains?

[@jayweh]

I don't understand how the concept of supporting your fellow citizens (as they are you) sounds like the devil to the 'united' states. by having everyone pay into the social security system, the costs are shared and get so much cheaper. and guess what, we all need healthcare at some point. and it actually feels good to know, you're helping others and they help you. and no nightmares over potential bankruptcies.

[@joanbowden7634]

@@SedatKPunkt it's called letting stupid ass ppl have a vote!

[@Alex-gl8li]

@@SedatKPunkt To be perfecly honest, the social security in France was created by the communist party, so this is, indeed, communist.

[@timmooney8693]

Im American and i wish my country had universal healthcare but we care more about guns. So sad

[@mariosmatzoros3553]

Guns don't have anything to do with healthcare and no your country doesn't spend more for the military/guns than health . It's your system that's messed up.

[@johndoeswife5497]

@@mariosmatzoros3553 pretty sure the us does spend more on military than health, I live In The us and guns are more accessible than good healthcare

[@skyest6799]

@@johndoeswife5497 I can get a gun at the grocery store. But I can’t go to the doctor. That America in a nutshell.

[@johndoeswife5497]

@@skyest6799 I’m proud to be a part of that lmao

[@skyest6799]

@@johndoeswife5497 I wouldn’t say I’m proud. But I don’t completely dislike it here

[@coryj4323]

In Germany, my aunt fell and broke two fingers. She went to the doc and they said that although she had travel insurance, they'd have to charge her full price and she could get reimbursed by the insurance company. They collected about $225 US worth of euros as a deposit I think. Her first visit included Dr. visit, x-rays, splints, and a sling and she was told to come back in 5 days. I went with her when she went back. Her second visit included another x-ray, another Dr. consult, and replacing of the splints. We waited maybe 30 min for the X-ray, 20 min to talk to the Dr. The nurse was explaining how to get to billing and then offered to go for her since she didn't speak German. When she returned, the nurse gave her the final paperwork to sign, a receipt and $17 US worth in change left over from her deposit. She was shocked. She works as a nurse in the US and said the bill here would have been $1,500+.

[@dannywhite132]

You have to pay 1500 quid for broken fingers?! Why?! Splints dont cost that much....

[@dylanhinegardner6778]

Wait til they find out how many thousands it costs to get a ride in the ambulance lol

[@natetran3190]

Daniel White without insurance, easily 1500$

[@trinova9581]

Daniel White I had to go to the ER recently because of bladder retention. My bladder was starting to back-up into my kidneys. All they did was stick a catheter in me and then run a CT scan to find out the cause. $3500 medical bill right there.

[@TaxTheChurches.]

Cory J Cost me $13,000 for 24 hours in a Virginia hospital for afib attack. I was afraid to spend another day.

[@petermuller5800]

I'm a German citizen & our mandatory health insurance is valid for all EU countries. Since I frequently travel overseas I got myself "additional travel insurance" which is valid worldwide except for U.S. I often wondered "why not U.S.?" but now I understand: because the insurance doesn't wanna go bankrupt.

[@diana6echo]

And that's why I cured myself from the need to visit USA ever... srsly, it's crazy... universal healthcare is not perfect (you Germans took most of our doctors and nurses but you pay them more ;)), but I'll take it anyway and I'm sure that I'll get the needed help when needed

[@yourikhan4425]

There are slightly more expensives insurrances also covering the US, provided you don't spend more than x days (15 ? 30 ? ... I only needed it for 2 weeks so that was irrelevant) there for each year. It costs something between 200 and 300 EUR a year.

[@Rottensparrow]

In Poland we had public discussion about making health care private, so you're wrong it's not mandatory. You nazis like everything unified

[@boreasreal5911]

Ringeistvonmordor 1st In Germany health insurance is mandatory. 2nd If you don't want to get in trouble, stop calling germans Nazis.

[@petermuller5800]

+Ringeistvonmordor: Maybe you should read my comment again. Our German (mandatory) health insurance is valid throughout the EU - that's what I was saying. Btw. same goes for Polish & all EU citizens: if you're traveling through Europe and have an accident, emergency / other sort of urgent need for treatment, costs for you are covered. One of the good things the EU brought about. It's covered either by your home insurance in Poland, or by your host country (depending on the system).

[@TimeAndCrown]

Not having universal or very cheap health care is the worst investment you can make. How can a society prosper if people are not healthy and ready to work or study. A family member of mine had an American student living with them for a week. He broke his foot and was terrified. He was absolutely panicking that it would destroy his life because he would be in huge debt for having it fixed in the US. He was taken to the Danish hospital and fixed for free. Not having a healthy population is the worst investment you can make. Somewhere along the way you lost your way in the US along the way. Thanks for the video.

[@TimeAndCrown]

tmWasted Did you just call the US the most prosperous society in the world? You are aware of the fact that the US as a country is the most indebted country in the Western world? Owing half the country to China. www.usdebtclock.org US industry is dying fast. Health is in free fall with the US population being the fattest, most unhealthy and unhappy populations in the West. Please get your facts straight. Maybe you are educated in the US school system haha

[@emmyloubauer9217]

Watch On, Exactly, I was like 'what is this other guy on???' lol

[@HickW]

SO true! Thank you!

[@lovehandr]

American health care costs are spiralling out of control much faster than those countries that offer universal coverage. If universal coverage is destined to fail, then so will the American system as well.

[@aaronrodgersoverrated9-7in94]

+Ksch Koff Speak for yourself. I'm going to laugh my ass off when those socialists' governments finally collapse, much like Venezuela and the USSR. We invented the Internet, we have 12 of the top 25 universities in the world, we're ranked top 3 in agricultural production, ranked 2nd in labor freedom, ranked 1st in advanced medical technology in hospitals, have a lot of money left over after taxes (based on first world comparisons), we have the world's largest global economy, we're the most influential country in the world, and we have 800 military bases worldwide. We don't need those trash Europeans. They are more dependent on us than we ever were on them. That's why we are the most free, independent nation in the world. No global index from incalculable nonsense will ever change that. Our Declaration of Independence says it all. Even the UK is leaving the EU next March. Wait till the EU is consisting of 10 countries instead of 28+. Like their overrated healthcare systems, it's not sustainable.

[@srijonmishra2207]

USA isn't a country anymore, it's a business

[@MarcheurdePlanete]

I am foreigner living in the US since over 7 years. 5 years ago a smash my little finger in a window (don't ask how). I had no insurance and I did not know what to do. So I went to an emergency hospital room. Filled up a lot of paper. I wait there something like 40 minutes, and it was almost empty. Then I met with a nurse, for a pre-exam. Then I went to another room with another nurse. The doctor came, asked what I did. I explained the story. He thought I could have a bone fracture, and I said no, showing to him I can move my finger without any pain. So refuse the X-ray. He said, ok "nurse, clean that up and rap it. Have a nice day sir". I saw this doctor for like 4 minutes total. Total cost after 3 weeks in my mailbox : - $1,500 for the emergency room and pre-exam - $1,500 for the doctor visit I went back to the hospital, asking for a possible "charity program", because I could not pay $3,000 and having no insurance. I went thru a charity program and I paid $500 ish. So yes, the US healthcare system is a pure robbery, no question about it. A X-ray is the same machine in Europe or in the USA. But in the USA, it cost 100 time the price in Europe. Why ??? A pain-killer (probably made by the same pharma company, like Pzi...r) will cost 2 euro in Europe and $20 in the USA. Why ?? A physiologist consultation will cost 25 euros in Europe, and minimum $75 with insurance in the USA. When those doctors will have to do 7 years of university in both side of the Atlantic Ocean. But why here is so damn expensive ? Answer (probably ) : Stupid people who believe on freedom. But if freedom as no meaning, what is the point ? Government/people who has no balls to change. Stupidy and finally Insurance company with their lobbyists : too powerful at the government. It's like this guy CEO of Turing Pharmaceuticals increase the price (over night) of Daraprim from $13.50 to $750 THE PILL!!! Just one pill. Source : www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/09/21/ceo-of-company-that-raised-the-price-of-old-pill-hundreds-of-dollars-overnight-calls-journalist-a-moron-for-asking-why/?.a909c60f6ac7 Freedom of the market ? Capitalism ? Get screw and vote for those people who allow this. Welcome in America !!

[@hollydowns2279]

I so wish the people here were able to LEARN instead of becoming more obtuse daily I would really like intelligent people to converse with but not many here

[@MarcheurdePlanete]

@@hollydowns2279 I guess a lot of people don't want to see the truth, even M. Sanders avoid the reality of the actual system. Here a video who explain very well the differences between USA and France : kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3ndhnaKpN6WodU That is the truth and the reality.

[@lonsdalebelt9645]

omg

[@celloting01]

Short answer: American healthcare is capitalist, ie, to profit from your ill health. It's all about making money to pay shareholders, fast cat managers, clinicians, big pharma, and above all insurance companies. In a word, sick.

[@user-xb9yv2ci4c]

1. The state dictates the prices. 2. University education is also (almost) for free. So, a physician doesn't need to pay back a study loan.

[@fanolade]

I prefer paying 50% taxes for a tood social system and healthcare than 0% taxes and then pay thousands of Euro for nothing.

[@Brozius2512]

exactly 👍🏻

[@alexandercrush]

Well germany has a 42% income tax. US has a 37% income tax. But then there is also state income tax and social security tax. So it's more like 61.7 % income tax if you live in California.

[@chasiah7101]

Alex that’s fucked up

[@airsoftphysik4342]

@@chasiah7101 and also not true the 42% tax in germany is ONLY for money earned above 45k € / year the average german citizen pays around 15-30% taxes.

[@kp782]

Alex thats not so simply. I live in Finland we have free health care and it depends on your income how much you pay e.g 5500$/month Taxes 28-32%

[@electroflame6188]

"People should be able to afford going to the doctor's" literally all of the civilized world besides america: ok sounds reasonable america: but DATS *COMMUNISM **_REEEEEEEEEEEEEE_*

[@AKhellbindeR]

what?

[@jbug13158]

Becoming?

[@davidbeaulieu4815]

except Russia China north korea and actual third world craphole countries which honestly we are well on our way to becoming.

[@aWake.d-_-b]

Are you part of the 9.y.o squadfam ?lol "brofist"

[@TheZman580]

Electroflame 618 funny but *_I N C O R R E C T_*

[@Mar-gy2tm]

When my ex visited me in the UK he got sick and went to the urgent care. Examination, IV fluids, blood test, and painkillers, all of it free. He was like tiptoeing out like we were going to get in trouble for skipping the bill, he couldn't believe the level of care and that it was free.

[@visi_inspektor_besevic]

Healthcare system in US is the biggest organized crime in the history of mankind.

[@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil]

You can argue that the US Military is.. US healthcare kill only 45000 people every year. But they ruin 300 million lives every year though, whereas the US military kill hundred thousands of civilians every year. Not sure what is worse..

[@visi_inspektor_besevic]

You are right by the numbers but I do not speak about numbers. Healthcare and military are not the same category. Military job is to kill (for many reasons), healthcare job is to help. So,there are to many people in US who died just because they did not have to pay for help by healtcare system. US healtcare system kills its own people,US citizens,people who work and pay taxes like everybody else in Canada,Australia,New Zeland,Russia,Japan,England,France,Italy,Spain,Germany...all Europe. Everywhere free healthcare system is possible (free because we/they pay taxes,so we/they pay it by paying taxes) and it works for decades only in US they say it is not passible and the most sutpid thing they say is that free healthcare is communism. :D :D I'm not sure that countries like Canada,AUS,England,Germany,France are communist countries. :D

[@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil]

It all depends on how you look at it. Why I said it is debatable. Both are horrible in their own right. Would you call a terrorist organisation an organized crime organisation?

[@tommarnk]

meybe they use a fake x-ray app for phone :P

[@090Karma]

In Coorperation with the dairy and meat industry. The latter makes us sick and the first one uses this oppertunity to pump everyone full with pills. The documentary "What The Food" proves the insanely huge mafia behind it standing above the goverment, a must watch .

[@xamarrontia]

My dad was once in the USA working when one of his mates hurt his leg really bad, so they went to the hospital. After waiting for 5 long hours he got to see the doctor and they told him that they had to do an intervention and that it would cost a large amount of money. There was no problem as the company was going to pay for it, but the hospital didn´t seem to trust. After waiting for two long days and with a horrible infection in his leg, they decided to return to Spain to have the surgery done. I have a pretty bad impression of the american healthcare system eversince.

[@Real_MisterSir]

"we don't know if it will be profitable to save your life, so you will have to wait".. That seems to be the American health "care" slogan.

[@FriedrichHerschel]

If you wait long enough and the infection spreads, you can earn more money.

[@qwertyuiopzxcfgh]

In a lot of cases it's both faster and cheaper to fly to Europe and get treatment there.

[@kinnish5267]

total bullshit - no one in the USA is ever turned away in a hospital. It is American law. Sorry but your dad is bullshitting you.

[@Erikdyr]

Kinnish - That depends on whenever the disease/damage can be fatal. If it's not you can be turned away. Whats the point of lying about it?

[@loughkb]

In the US, we don't have a "health care" system, we have a "health care about profit" system.

[@quintonbailey9861]

THats why we have the best doctors and the best medicine...

[@loughkb]

For those that can afford it.

[@DivineHyperion]

Quinton Bailey I wish I could get them without having to put up mortgages in my house.

[@drdoener535]

Quinton Bailey Thats what they told you.

[@Isobel31Swan]

Kevin Loughin That's what Jeremy Hunt is trying ti do to the NHS.

[@gracecalis5421]

"Socialism never works!" "Norway is socialist and it's doing great" "They're not socialist! They're a capitalist country with strong welfare policies!" _"THEN LET'S ADOPT THOSE POLICIES"_ *_"NO THAT'S SOCIALISM"_*

[@daguido742]

pretty much sums it up perfectly

[@alvaro8325]

Norway is one of the countries with the most economic freedom in the world... They're definetly not socialist. Now, if you want to pay extremely high taxes that is your problem...

[@alvaro8325]

And yes. Socialism never worked.

[@eirik2338]

Extremely high taxes in Norway?

[@gracecalis5421]

@@eirik2338 One of the happiest countries in the world is Norway?

[@jvidia]

Usa is the most advanced country in making money even with people's misfortune and health. That's not a country. Thats a company with internal clients. Don't understand how you can live without universal health care. I'm from europe of course.

[@jenniferlorence1950]

Very Well Said!!

[@MissElisabelle]

It's a different mentality. Just read comments under videos about homeless people, you'll see Americans saying that it's their fault if they became homeless. They do not take in consideration the different and unexpected factors that can bring you down in your lifetime. In US you have to work hard for everything, even for dignity and healthcare. In Europe, healthcare is one of the fundamental human rights. You are human and you deserve to be taken care of. You are not a piece of garbage, you are a person.

[@jenniferlorence1950]

@@MissElisabelle Completely Agree with Your Comment.

[@patdeen6648]

Yeah except the US is not leading the world in Medical Science. We were 20 years ago.

[@keyeemanna636]

I visited one of my cousins living in Europe. I visited them and was staying at their home. The doctor visited their home for me and he wouldn't even take any money. He said we were at families' home and the insurance was for the entire family. That's what he said, anyway. That wouldn't have happened in the U.S.

[@selah71]

I lived in Spain and loved it! Later took my children to Spain. My daughter became ill with a sore throat and fever. At the Pharmacy, the Pharmacist asked me about her symptoms, just like a doctor. After I told her she asked for my daughter's weight and height and I was able to get antibiotics for her. Cost? $5.00. Then, I got very ill. Turned out I had pneumonia. Cost for the ER doctor (wait was less than 5 minutes) x-ray and medicine was $70.00 total. In the USA it would have been far more if we hadn't had health insurance. Call it socialized medicine or social health CARE, what matters is everyone should have FREE health care. So what if we pay it in taxes from our pay check. We pay health insurance out of our pay check already. The big difference is what IF you suddenly no longer get a pay check because of a job loss? The company downsizes, closes, or you get in an accident or get seriously ill and no longer able to work? And can't afford COBRA? No pay check, no health insurance. But, through social health care, no one would have such worry, let alone the stress. And stress CAN kill you. Please, it is long overdue for the USA to become more civilized and caring when it comes to health CARE!

[@selah71]

@Tim Blanks She also had swollen glands. (Wasn't just a cold.) I don't know if Pharmacies in Spain hand out antibiotics like candy, but doubt it. What I do know is they are far better trained than Pharmacist here. Based on my symptoms, the Pharmacist told me I needed to be seen by a doctor. I did.

[@andersringstrom825]

You should have been ill in Wales. Health care and medicines is free for foreigners (but not for the English!).

[@gdavidson3059]

@Well Well What?

[@Lithobrake0]

The funny thing is, the US spends more tax money per capita on healthcare then most european countries, on top of everything they spend privately. And in return they get no public healthcare.

[@jcumse]

Temper,temper!@Captain America

[@Whooooooops]

Hearing these american prices for healthcare is absolutley insane as someone who's from sweden. 80 euro for an xray here would be expensive! $500 for a ER checkup and an X-ray is completley chocking to me.

[@bibtebo]

imzul I just fucking love how good you swedes are at English

[@Whooooooops]

Com Lag haha thanks man! We're taught english here from 1st grade (7 years old), so it's basically a second language for most of us :) Like i prefer watching movies with either english subtitles or subtitles completley off because i find it easier :P

[@bibtebo]

imzul I love that. I am English and i envy you being taught a second language so well. I know English is really useful so its hard to incentivise teaching foreign languages here, but its so cool. I am coming to backpack in northern Sweden in a few months, and have been trying to learn some Swedish (even though i know i will never need it ahaha). Jag älskar Sverige!

[@Whooooooops]

Com Lag yeah i guess we don't really think about it since we're so used to it but only knowing one language seems kind of boring haha We do learn a third language from 12/13 years old, (usually German, Spanish or French). But since you start learning those languages much later people usually arn't fluent in them. Awesome! I really want to go up north aswell! Hopefully i'll be flying up to northern Norway this summer but i'd love to visit Kiruna in northern Sweden aswell! Good luck on your trip my friend! And good luck with learning Swedish aswell, i hear it's a pretty difficult language to learn haha

[@bibtebo]

imzul Haha i partly chose to learn it because i read it is supposed to be one of the easier languages for an english speaker! Yeah man, you too! I am hiking the kungsleden, so very near Kiruna. You have some beautiful country, i am very excited. All the best friend.

[@nicii179]

i said it once and i’ll say it again: a country where people can literally go into debt or become homeless due to medical cost is NOT a first world country and should never be considered as one. fuck the usa.