My Heartbreaking Breastfeeding Journey

[@bittersweetsass2232]

My mom told me everyone is a perfect parent until they become one. We had an emergency C-section and at that point I didn't care that it wasn't the natural birth I'd planned I was just grateful she started breathing. The only person I strive to be better than is the mom/ wife/ human I was yesterday and sometimes I fail even at that but I learn and try the next day. Life and parenting does not get easier you just get strong and wiser with each new challenge. We homeschool and my little one struggles with reading sooooo much she is "behind" her peers but she has started to progress and I cry some days because I'm so proud that she doesn't compare herself to others she just improves herself. Just cherish your time they sprout up so quick it isn't worth wasting a second thinking you are a failure or not good enough. Lots of love from a fellow NY Homesteading Momma.

[@ladybirdgib]

I am so glad you shared! Thank you! My boys will be 13 soon and I had some similar struggles. I was devastated to be 100% pumping from the get go. It was hard in many ways. Your sharing will most certainly help another new mom.

[@marilynwallin1263]

Feeding your baby is always a blessing however you feed your baby. You did great!

[@melinda4372]

I went through the exactly same situation with all three of my babies. I was devastated each time. I had wanted to nurse my babies so much!! You, and any other mom watching this and going through this, are a great mom - whether breastfeeding or bottle. And hopeful here's some encouragement - my kids are all grown adults now and totally healthy and fine. Thank you so much for sharing this. I know this vid will help many other new moms going through the same journey.

[@tarnr5713]

Well done Jen, more stories like this need to be told. You are not alone, there are many reasons why someone doesn't breastfeed and that in no way lessens their connection with their baby or makes them less of a Mum. We put way too much pressure on ourselves as Mums and honestly it is a bit selfish in a way, baby needs to be well fed and well loved - regardless of whatever romantic ideal we have in our minds - something I wish I had realised much sooner. Breast is indeed ideal but FED is best regardless of how it happens. Just as important is Mums mental health. . I had intense pain, cracking, bleeding and cried every feed for the first 3 months, I felt like such a wuss and kept pushing through the pain - my mental health took a real beating, but of course I tried never to let that show. After that the pain lessened a bit (I became desensitised) but the cracking never went away no matter what creams or methods I tried. I exclusively breast fed my daughter until 6 months when we gradually switched to pumping and bottle feeding then formula (when of course the guilt set in 🙄). Through it all I was absolutely miserable which took a serious toll on our family and the road back to good mental health was not quick or easy. That was 17 years ago and if I could go back in time I would let younger me know that she needs to get over herself and move on, because everyone benefited from me ending the breastfeeding "dream" and I so wish I had done it much earlier. . I found out later that I wasn't a wuss, super sensitive nipples is an actual thing that is more than just the normal "breaking in" period. I damaged myself by pushing though the pain and it took years to start getting feeling back. . Jen, if you managed to read all this, thank you for hearing my story. Please don't beat yourself up, sometimes doing what's best means letting go of the dream (letting go of the angst) as this means you can then fully embrace the next chapter of your story.

[@amy-freebirdp7869]

Breastfeeding can be hard! I had a hard time learning with my oldest. I was not prepared for that part of the journey. About 3 or 4 days in I broke down crying with baby in my arms crying "I'm broken, I can't do this" . Then I discovered my lactation consultant who was my savior. She let me cry and then taught me how to get my son to properly latch, different holds to help with pain from cracking and bleeding nipples, and so much more. That said, the most important thing about feeding your baby is FEEDING your baby and bonding. All of it is a journey in learning and love.

[@happycampers2178]

I have also had a difficult breastfeeding journey. The mama in me salutes the mama in you. Kuddos for hanging in there

[@ArmindaHeart]

Your feelings are 1000% valid. But I want you to know you are the best mother to your son. So much love between you two. You are doing exactly what you’re meant to do. I had a difficult time with my first, then was successful with my next two. I feel like there isn’t enough support for new moms and often times breastfeeding can be a struggle/fail because of it. My sister in law is struggling with her new baby, and I want to give her all the advice and help I can, but don’t want to overstep any boundaries. Waaah! I know what you’re going through. I truly do. You will get past this stage all the wiser and you can help others.

[@TheAndywassup]

Thank you for this! This hit home so hard. I just had my son last fall and because he was in the NICU, I wasn’t able to breastfeed for a while because he had a nutrients tube. By the time I could try, he never wanted it. He would be so angry when I tried and tried. I was also pumping and feeding by a bottle so that he was eating something. In the end, we just went to bottle feeding because he would never latch. I also had to eventually quit pumping after a few months because I kept getting infections. I beat myself up and cried constantly for a long time and still sometimes do. I hate that I am not able to breastfeed my child or give him breast milk and I have felt like I was failing because of it. But in the end, I am just happy my baby is healthy and happy. And I am so happy that your baby is well too! You are doing great! And I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you sharing this.

[@zeppypaige]

First and foremost, THANK YOU so much for sharing your story. I’m so so sorry you’re having those feelings. Many people can share their stories in an effort to try and lift you up and make you feel better. I hope you know that many comments are motivated by that. But I also understand that you feel the way you feel and no matter what anyone else says sometimes, there’s no way to change that. I want you to know that you’re amazing. All of these things that you tried are a perfect example of what a wonderful mamma you are. I know this is also easier said than done but self care is so so important 💜 Also, my “mamma mantra” at these times in my parenting experience is “this too shall pass”. It didn’t change how much I tried to help my son but it did help me to remember that although that was the thing in the forefront of our lives at the time, eventually it would work itself out and things would be ok (this helped me the most when my MIL thought it was time for my son to be potty trained but he wasn’t. I kept telling myself that and not letting her pressure me into feeling like a failure and eventually it drown her judgement out). I just want to say one more thing: your baby is perfect, your journey is perfectly imperfect, and I hope someday you can come to feel that way too 💜

[@zeppypaige]

Haha, awe, I just needed to wait till the end before I made my comment 💜

[@999applegirl999]

Oh Jen, I'm so crying with you. Your heart is absolutely precious. Thank you for bravely sharing your feelings and your journey and not being afraid to say it didn't work. I am so amazed at how many things you tried. You truly figured out the reason why though and sometimes it's not anyone's fault, it just doesn't work. I am so sorry for the heartbreak and loss of this special part of mothering that you were so looking forward to with him. Honoring your disappointment is such a light to how to live in a healthy holistic way, which is what you are doing on your farm with growing your own food. I am a mom of 3 and have had plenty of disappointment, believe me. Each child has his/her own journey as well, they have twists and turns and rarely go the way we think they will. Parenting is also a ride!! :) Keep talking about the real. Life is wonderful, but also hard. We support you and encourage you to give yourself what you need. One thing a good friend told me when my kids were little that I never forgot was "Happy Mommy, happy baby".

[@ItsSimplyAngela]

Sending you so many well thoughts and love! I'm an exclusive pumper because my daughter couldn't nurse, and I feel that it's been a journey that's truly empowered me. Even though anyone can give my daughter a bottle, I'm still the sole provider of her nutrition (aside from solids since she's 8 months old). I hope that you continue on this journey and have a positive experience. Your baby loves you! There's no one like mom!

[@darlenemcswine6418]

I know you think you’re alone but you’re not. Everyone has their own obstacles with breastfeeding. I don’t have the same obstacles as you. But think of all the great nutrition that you’re feeding him. You’re working sooo hard to give him the best food that you can. You can’t beat yourself up, you’re doing great! Every little bit that you’re giving him is amazing! I know a lot of people who envy those who have a high milk supply but it’s really not that great. I almost went into septic shock on Friday from mastitis and then was put on penicillin for the infection and I had a very rare reaction (Steven Johnson syndrome) where I was told today that I was lucky I didn’t die. My baby is 2 months old and I keep fluctuating between crazy high milk supply and not making enough to feed her because I keep getting mastitis. So I’m in the same boat as you were where I have to nurse and pump or I could get an infection. It’s a lot of work, I’m exhausted. And I’m juggling a 4 year old, 3 dogs, goats, chickens, getting ready for gardening season, all while my husband is working very long hours (only been home for about 5 hours a day to sleep). It breaks my heart to see you so distraught because I feel your pain. I can’t relate to what you are going through but I know that breastfeeding is hard! It’s not an easy road. Do what you can. (Now excuse me while I warm up the last 3oz of breastmilk we have in the fridge.) you’re amazing! Keep up the great work!

[@angelicadial7513]

Girl! You’re making me cry 😢 Your journey is unique and you and your baby boy get to make it your own. It sucks when what you thought would be best changes so dramatically but honestly, as a doula, I know that what is best is adapting to change and to circumstances that are unique to you. You’re doing great, you tried all the things and that’s great. You’ve adjusted and that is great too. Expectations are hard because they can be shattered in a moment and honestly it does not make you less of a mom. It makes you a great mother to know that your baby is telling you what he needs and you are listening so that your journey is a more positive one. Feedings are enjoyable and still an opportunity to bond even with a bottle. Just like when women have to make the decision to change a birth plan when the plan doesn’t work for them and interventions are needed after trying all the things. You aren’t alone and I totally respect you for making this video. Thank you for sharing 💞

[@cindycalvert4875]

I’m sorry breastfeeding hasn’t gone how you planned! It didn’t go well for me either. I tried everything including one of the meds you mentioned, and for me it was a problem with my own anatomy. I can tell you that with a second baby my body didn’t cooperate any better, but I was much more at peace with things. I’m glad that you’re moving toward peace and acceptance. You are absolutely not a failure! You have done everything, and you’ve given everything for him. You love him so much. All of that is successful motherhood. Feel free to message me if you want to reach out or vent! I’ve been in all those places. Love and hugs to all of you. ♥️

[@alisharhc]

You are most definitely not alone in this. I tried so hard to nurse my first two babies and it never worked. My last baby is 8 months old and I am finally able to exclusively breastfeed him. There is hope for future babies. Enjoy this baby and all that goes with him. You have done everything you could and more. Feel all of your feelings. Thank you for sharing your story. It is so hard and you are so brave for facing this and speaking on it. Sending so much love your way!

[@catherinekevin6252]

So sorry you went though that! You were amazingly dedicated to see all of those consultants

[@franziskabertram3286]

Well done for being so open and vulnerable to support and educate other people. It's sad that so many mothers put so much pressure on themselves. The thought "Of course everything will go perfect because I researched everything I can/should do." Having a baby is never always perfect. You make plans how you breastfeed, what foods you will give them after that, how you will manage their sleep time or how you will form their minds and attitudes. And if those plans don't fit your child, or your family or your lifestyle women think they failed. That it's their fault. That they're doing something wrong. And everyone else is able to do it. That is just not true. But for many it is difficult to show to the outside world that sth is not working perfectly. That some things are hard. And some things are too hard. Continue to speak up. Your support group might be able to help you better then and you might find even more support with new people. As you can see in the comments at this video, so many women had problems as well. You're not alone.

[@terriharlem3707]

You could not have done more or tried more. What a wonderful mother you are! You are amazing!

[@Spry011]

You're such a great mom!! Try not to be so hard on yourself. Sometimes things just don't go as planned. I had been set on my son going to a particular private school. This school ended up being a complete nightmare and we changed schools. I was heartbroken. But, his new school is actually way better! You didn't fail - your baby is well fed. Also so my son is 7 and we still have a strong bond. Your son loves you and it's just hard when they're little babies because they can't say it. Lastly, postpartum depression is a real thing and I was still going through it a year after birth. Just take things 1 day at a time and try to appreciate him with less pressure on yourself. You're doing great!!

[@heyitsagoodlife]

You are amazing. You did an incredible job telling this story. Thank you for creating a safe space on the internet. It blessed me as a new mom to know I’m not alone in the struggles and I know it will bless many others too ♥️

[@SunshineFarm]

Thank you for your encouraging words friend! You are such an amazing mama too 💛💛💛

[@heyitsagoodlife]

@@SunshineFarm 😘

[@liamabean3532]

My baby is now almost 6 months too and I stopped exclusively pumping and switched to formula and it has been a huge relief. Thank you for sharing your story, mine never got better either so hearing a similar story helps. I also didn’t have that magical ending. YOU DID NOT FAIL. I wish I could nurse too. :( It’s so so so so so hard. I cried daily too. It’s so fucking hard. You’re doing the best you can. Sending love. ♥️♥️ this is quick and not at all eloquent but seriously, you’re an amazing mother and Kai is blessed to have you. 🥺

[@jessicadeinert8891]

I struggled in a similar way with my first baby and sitting here at 3am watching this as I pump now with my 2nd that’s 3 weeks old. I ended up stopping pumping around 6-8 weeks with my first and switched to formula and felt such a relief once I got over the guilt. Now this time I’m still trying to power on with pumping and nursing once and a while but it’s almost always painful with a bad latch. Ugh it’s so frustrating and stressful again. But I do know that you are not alone and neither am I. Moms need to have some grace on themselves and each other when it comes to feeding. Happy first ever Mother’s Day! Enjoy your baby and just know that your feeding journey is all your own, so don’t compare to others.

[@lindsayvlogslife]

It sounds like you’ve done everything you possibly could to make nursing happen. Don’t be too hard on yourself, this is not your fault and you’re an amazing mom! With my first baby we had so many issues with her latch, she didn’t have any ties (had her checked multiple times), the only way that I could nurse her was with a nipple shield. She was gaining fine for the first 5 months, but then she started to slow down. By 6 months she had lost half a pound so we needed to supplement. My body didn’t respond to a pump (it had previously so I had some milk in the freezer from earlier on but not much) so we ended up supplementing with formula, as I couldn’t find a local donor. Eventually she started refusing to nurse altogether because of course, babies will prefer the easiest method that requires the least amount of effort and bottles are exactly that. By 8 months she had stopped nursing completely and I was SO emotional about it. I’m in Canada and was actually prescribed the medication that you’re currently on, but by the time I started it, it was too late as she wouldn’t even stay latched long enough to stimulate a let down. I cried every day for weeks over the end of our nursing relationship. Then I had my second baby and she was the total opposite of her sister! She actually had a tongue tie but it never caused any issues, she latched perfectly from day 1 and we continued to have zero issues with nursing. She weaned on her own at 14 months (much to my dismay, I wanted to make it to at least 2 years but I struggled for a month trying to keep her nursing and she was just too busy and wouldn’t nurse for more than 60 seconds at the end). I have faith that you’ll have an easier time with future babies, especially now that you have so much more knowledge than you did before you had Malachi. You know all the right professionals to contact if you need help, you’re more experienced with pumping, etc.

[@lauren15988g]

I just wanted to give you a big hug! You've done so well, and what a happy baby boy you have! Keep sharing your journey, it's the best but absolutely the hardest job in the world. We should all be together in sharing struggles xo

[@Rebecca.Robbins]

Hugs. Parenting is so super hard. My labour with my third baby went EXACTLY the opposite of what I wanted and what I had in my birth plan. I wanted another drug free labour and after a horrible, long (36 plus hours), HARD labour, I ended up getting a epidural then an emergency c section. I suffered PTSD from the labour. I felt like I failed. I had put in my birth plan that I wasn’t to be offered drugs at any point. It destroyed me to ask an epidural. At that time, I thought I was going to die. For years after, I couldn’t even think about his birth without crying. I still get triggered sometimes. He is 11 now. Anyway, I’m sorry you have had a rough time. It is hard. Parenting is hard. You do your best and that’s the best you can do. You will have a different experience with future babies.

[@nikkigravley7954]

Your journey sounds very similar to the route ours has taken so far. Ice nursed 4 babies to almost 2 years old. My fourth baby I had to have his ties released and cst, lactation appts weekly. It was hard but we made it work. Finally got easy at 6 months old. I just had my fifth baby 3 weeks ago. Super high palate, lip tongue and buccal ties, had those released. Did well nursing at first, then started with not gaining. He couldn't transfer milk, my supply tanked, he quit gaining weight. So I started pumping around the clock, triple feeding. So now we're triple feeding during the day and bottle/pumping at night. I have all the emotions you've described. I feel such grief over the loss of this breastfeeding relationship. We start cst this week, already doing chiropractic, seeing lactation weekly, suck training, everything. On top of having 4 other children. Idk if this is gonna work. But I'll run myself ragged trying until I just can't anymore. But I don't think I can exclusively pump long either. It's too painful and time consuming. So hard mentally.

[@theresemitchell4180]

I too felt like a failure due to difficulties with Lactation with my first child. I cried everyday not understanding why she just wouldn’t latch. The providers were pressuring me to keep trying. I felt like I was starving her. I talked with a friend and she made me feel better. The second child had no problem. I realized the only important thing is the health of your baby.

[@saraatintochristlikeness9098]

My last 4 babies have been this way... it's so so hard! 😢 hugs Mama! I'm thankful to hear I'm not alot though...

[@kaitlynervin575]

Oh, it feels like something that will weigh on your heart forever but I promise it doesn't! My daughter had severe lip & tongue tie which went diagnosed our entire breastfeeding journey and caused us to be inpatient at a children's hospital with a feeding tube and horrible tests done (lumbar puncture) to check for any disease she may have for not 'having the strength' to feed. Our birth hospital released us without her feeding and said to just go to breastfeeding clinics and then a day later having to rush to ER because she wasn't taking anything and became limp. All of those places told me she didn't have ties and that I was wrong and it must be something else or that I wasn't feeding right. After months of trying, in and out of hospital, obsessing over every single drop she took in and pumping religiously I decided for my mental health it was time to give it up. I'm so happy we switched to formula because it made me a better mama emotionally and although I still struggle with resentment towards the lack of care we received it no longer is a daily weight on my shoulders because she is now a happy & healthy 22 month old who doesn't stop eating & can feed herself/communicate. It doesn't last forever. Bottles/formula/breastfeeding doesn't last forever.

[@jackiekitchennowordsneeded587]

Your baby will get to eat food that your hands has grown. That is great feeling., most people just feed them progress baby food.

[@dawnmackay3394]

You are such a sweet, sweet mom. Sending hugs. ❤️

[@rebeccarogers3127]

Aww darling! I feel you xx

[@samanthainthestacks]

Thank you so much for sharing your journey 💕

[@mariannalee3207]

I have a friend who exclusively pumped for her son. She fed him this way for over a year! She had a similar experience as yours. Her baby would latch but just couldn’t transfer milk from her. It was hard for her especially at first but it got easier for her as time went by. You are definitely not alone in your experience

[@jansumitav5876]

GOD BLESS YOU EVERY MOMENTS, LIFETIME I PROTECT YOUR PRIVACY

[@rivkabaranowski1642]

As a breastfeeding mom (for baby number 3), who also pumps for milk in the freezer. Pumping is not easy, it can keep you in one place. It helps if the pump fits in the bra. I'm saying this because I changed to a pump that fits in the bra. And I can move!!, it makes a big difference!! I at lest to me Breast is best, as long as it is possible and you want to/can And as long as baby eats

[@dollyperry3020]

I had a terrible time breastfeeding my first child and went on to breastfeed successfully 3 more children. Don't give up hope!

[@LanaiDebbie]

Oh, Jenn...I am so sorry you have had to go through all that!

[@magsv4786]

I've got seven children, my 1st child was a no go I tried everything had consultants and Drs all trying to tell me what and how to feed my baby, but it didn't work in fact I believe it destroyed it., 2nd child my midwife told me to not be having so many tell me what to do and just go with the flow, my feeding was heaps better and I learned myself, my 3rd baby I just let myself do what I thought without all the interferences and it was 100% better, I fed all my babies to what was best for them and myself, and not every baby is a brilliant feeders, but it really can be to many people expecting breast, so i pumped for that baby for 9 months, my twins were born at 28weeks and the peds nurse told me i wouldn't be able to feed my babies, WELL i breast fed them for 20 months. don't feel defeated hun, a mother gives it her all, and as much as breast is best a bottle is better if the tiny little monkeys struggle to eat... your a very loving mum.

[@laniehildebrandt5018]

Basil oil did wonders for my milk supply!!

[@GARDENSTATEGARDENER]

You are amazing stay strong

[@DonnaRatliff1]

The most important is that he got the colostrum. I'm an old lady now but I had 2 son's when I was young and I also had problems with breast feeding. I had all the guilt, depression etc. It happens to some of us and your baby is fine. Your getting further than I did.. So honestly, when I went to the bottle with formula and about a month old I added rice cereal to the bottle and cut the slit in the nipple bigger so they could get full belly's. Finally, I was relieved and my babies belly was full. It was then he started sleeping 4 hours at a time. Plus I didn't have to sit around half naked all day. But that's just me.. Everyone is different

[@2994love]

I have never heard someone with nearly the exact same situation as me. The only thing that is different is that we never had really had a good time even in the beginning. My milk never “came in” because her latch was that poor even though I never knew it was bad. How did you know that you were willing to exclusively pump? Also can I ask which bottles you use for his high palate? My daughter also has a very high palate.

[@SunshineFarm]

I started exclusively pumping with a goal of getting back to nursing, but it never worked out. We used evenflo for him but pigeon for my daughter. Both bottles were great!

[@AlmostHomeChannel]

This is so relatable..all we can do is try our best, and when all has been tried, letting go is the next step, despite it being so hard. It’s unfortunate that many don’t understand the struggle of breastfeeding that many experience... it’s so much more complex than we could ever imagine..You’ve done great mama! What a precious boy you have 🤗

[@freelivingtennessee]

Well your first is definitely not an indication of how your second will be. I had a lot of problems with my son and he was on bottles and formula by 3-6 months but then my daughter came along and I nursed her until she was over 2 year old. I didn’t intend to nurse her that long but I didn’t know that you can get stuck with a hard to ween baby and when you pass a certain threshold in development. She was old enough to ask for it “booboo” she would say 🤦🏻‍♀️ so anyways I share that to encourage you not to worry with the second baby if you ever have another one. I felt all those things with my son tho. All the mom guilt, all the stress. Then my second inwas scared I wasn’t even gonna get her to latch bc we were separated the first week a lot, she had a heart scare, and was in icu I was in hospital 8 days past birth with her while she was monitored and in icu getting pumped milk and formula. Then I finally got her home and it was tough at first bc the confusion and then she finally got it. Got it so good I was BF’ing till 2 years 2.5 months lol. Breastfeeding is so taxing but I understand a moms desire to do it. Mastitis is another thing a lot of women deal with that makes them have to stop. There are so many reasons baby might not get the breast. Kai is such an adorable baby tho and looks so happy and healthy and clearly has a momma and daddy that cares a so much about what’s best for him. Thank u for sharing this message. Def makes moms feel less along in their journey!

[@mountaincreekhomestead]

You should look into herbal tea for breast feeding for next baby. Every baby is different. Had the same problem with my first baby but breastfed my 3rd baby 14 months. At least you gave it everything you had. Don't be sad💕 I highly recommend the Nuk nipples, closest resemble our nipples. Go with smaller holes too. Oh and I forget to mention. I had to have 4 c sections. First one being an emergency, so just know it will get easier. I didnt my dream birth but I have 4 healthy grown children now . Love n hugs, keep your head up.. .that garden is where you too will bond in the future 💕💕💕💕

[@ericksantibanez3589]

Hi! Sunshine farms I saw your videos for a couple of week. And I want to share my breastfeeting experience with you and I hope it helps you. I'm 46 years old my esxperience was exactly like yours in my first breastfeeding month and I start watching a lot videos, that could help but

[@suevalenti9584]

I wonder if he received different immunities from the donor milk, might be a small side benefit.

[@saimakirecipes3344]

I dnt like brrastfeed what can i do

[@joyceobeys6818]

Oh ok I kept watching and it’s his pallet. Poor baby. Will it effect him when he is a toddler and older? I wouldn’t use drugs or anything GMOed for him. You sound like a good mom and very concerned for your baby. Did you pray instead of having hope in man? Trust YaH and His Son, repent of all sin and turn to YaH fully. Awe your baby is adorable! Hugs! I’ve got a personal story about looking down on others for their choices. I learned that Helping is fine but looking down on others while not walking in their shoes is wrong. I looked at this woman that had her son on a leash ( I already had 2 children at this time.) and I thought what a lazy mom. I thought, She is awful. Then my third child I had no choice but to put my child on a leash. I couldn’t keep up with him. He ran from me and put himself in danger all the time. After he grew he still was so energetic. His teacher asked me to put him on drugs to settle him down but I refused cuz I’m against drugs. He is an amazing person! I’m glad I fought against all drugs. They have way too many consequences. I loved his energy, it was a blessing from above. People don’t like kids with energy. That’s their own prejudice that was trying to cause my son to change. I’ll pray for you and your son 🙏🏼 too!

[@joyceobeys6818]

We were always told to Drink more fluids. That was the problem years ago. We didn’t drink enough and the baby didn’t latch well cuz there wasn’t enough milk. Did you ever get gorged with milk from the baby nor drinking enough? If you didn’t then maybe what they told us was right and we didn’t drink enough. Questioning if you have enough milk is a sign you may not have been drinking enough fluids. We never heard about lip ties. This must be fairly new and sounds very unnatural. Hmmmm. ????

[@kelseydickinson6369]

I dont really think she needs your questions or judgement calming what she has tried is unnatural, unless your her medical professional maybe leave your recommendations at the door.

[@joyceobeys6818]

@@kelseydickinson6369 I was just sharing and nothing else. I shared what I shared with her and nobody else, and shared with compassion and concern. It’s called Ahabah love. Ahabah love ❤️ is not always what we want to hear but it may help. She may discern what I shared to see if she wants to hear it or reject it. Either way, It is up to her. I pray they have perfect Peace. And you also.