My Hero Academia and Little Witch Academia: The Better RWBY

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RWBY as a show had an untapped wellspring of ideas that, in competent hands, could have led to a fantastic series. Thankfully, it's not the only one out there capitalizing on some of the same concepts. If you're looking for good alternatives to fill your viewing schedule, please allow my recommendations ring true...
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[@Shad0wReaper133]

YOU. ARE. FILTH. FILTH!

[@CelticPhoenix]

YOU BET YOUR SWEET ASS I AM!

[@DavyEddyBenny]

"Can I have my book back?" "LATER!" RWBY Chibi is truly the better RWBY.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

It actually is, which tells me that RWBY should have been more like Chibi from the start. Forget about trying to create a massive world and overarching plot to connect everything. Just make episodic comedy bits with these mostly 1-dimensional characters that are perfect for episodic comedy bits. Hell, I actually enjoyed Chibi Cinder way more than ever did actual Cinder. Cinder is such a flat villain that she can really only be good in a comedy show poking fun at tropes and such.

[@sylverlune]

Man I'm torn, should I be a Akko X Sucy or Akko X Diana shipper trash.

[@CelticPhoenix]

Akko x Diana Ship Sucy with Andrew; it removes all three ships of Sucy X Akko, Akko x Andrew and Diana x Andrew, while also simultaneously creating a volatile and entertaining dynamic. I mean seriously; think someone more straightlaced than Diana dating someone as borderline homicidal as Sucy. How friggen amazing would that be? XD

[@briarwolf0501]

And another thing MHA has over RWBY, is "Show Don't Tell". No one outright says it in My Hero Academia, aside from a couple quips from older characters, but... All Might is a terrible fucking teacher lmao. And no one HAS to say it lol. Because it's displayed very clearly that he doesn't know what he's doing when it comes to teaching over fighting. And it's something I really came to appreciate after working for an after school gig teaching little lessons to classes of elementary kids.

[@DemonicRemption]

@Katie D Johnson You're right. All Might is SHOWN to be a terrible teacher. Hell the only person or people who point that out are Gran Tarino and Aizawa. But I'm not caught up with RWBY yet, so I don't know enough exposition heavy moments.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

The issue is that its not explained WHY he is a teacher, I guess for inspiration?

[@littlemayo7136]

I feel like it definitely does talk too much during fight scenes cuz I'm trying to watch the fight scene not a flashback and that's the part that got me about my heart today me and I'm like the fight scenes are kind of lacking a lot of the time in terms of like choreography and it's more focused on the flashbacks and the stuff that led up to this moment rather than the actual choreographing and creativity being invested into the fight scene with the characters corks

[@HashbrownMashup]

Someone talking about RWBY, MHA, and THE most severely underrated Studio Trigger series in the same breath? Count me in.

[@echoecho3155]

Hope things start going better for you, Phoenix! Also, great analysis. It's sad how many works fail to capitalize on their potential. Two really good examples are Sword Art Online and Ready Player One - both feature the awesome idea of a plot taking place inside a hyper-real online video game, yet neither really use that idea to the benefit of the story. It's just window dressing, and game mechanics never matter. Meanwhile, SAO Abridged by SWE is amazing at treating the setting and characters as being in a game, and TOME - while not perfect - is a passion project that goes over some of the ideas Ready Player One does in a far better way.

[@starkamitheater721]

I get Sword Art Online, but why Ready Player One? It at least focuses on its virtual reality and video games more while SAO seems more focused on the romance and Kirito being OP.

[@echoecho3155]

It may be focused on the virtual reality, but it certainly does not feel like a video game. First look at the loss system. When you die, you lose everything - including currency that allows you to buy real-world items as well as in game. No one would play a game with a risk level that high, and at the very least no one would PVP. The game mechanics and in-game items make no sense. Impenetrable shields that last forever. Planet-killers that could ruin thousands of players progress in an instant. Pool balls that can miraculously livestream everywhere without reason. The Oasis makes SAO look like a real MMO, and that's a challenge. Side note, full dive would make a lot more sense than the Oasis' motion controls, which sometimes require full body movement and sometimes don't (when Wade's floating around, when it cuts to him irl, he's just sitting in a chair despite the fact that to do other things he has to actually move). Also, in a world where "bandwidth riots" were a thing, a game that looks like it would burn out every computer on the planet is played by literally everyone and is capable of modeling things to look almost fully realistic. I live in the country and can barely invade in Dark Souls - there's no way in hell the literal whole of the US - let alone the world - would play a game that would eat up so much bandwidth, especially if bandwidth has become a valuable resource. The Oasis certainly doesn't feel like it's inhabited by gamers, just people who know 80s pop culture. Mild SPOILERS here, but the first easter egg is found by simply driving backwards in a race - something literally everyone who's ever played Mario Kart or Burnout has done by the second time playing. Going further, none of the background characters look like gamers - just pop culture references. If you want a good comparison, look at a crowd shot from Ready Player One and then look at one from the KZbin series TOME. The latter looks like a meetup of DeviantArt OCs, while the former are just pop culture references from the 80s to 2016. I know which one the internet would be like, if Ugandan Knuckles is any indication. The characters also never take into account that they are in a game. There's never any use of glitches, clever play (no, driving backwards does not count), or exploits. People just kind of do things rather intuitively, and the easter egg hunt could just as easily be done in real life and not really matter. Where are the /v/ anons discovering every little exploit the game has? Where are the WoW guilds that pull off some insane stunts to beat bosses? Where are the EVE players scamming millions from others to fuel their own guilds and purposes? On another tangent, we're never really told what companies like OSI do or why the Oasis became so big. Sure, you can sell WoW gold for cash, but I don't see the world economy becoming based on it. And why a major corporation like OSI isn't just surreptitiously editing code or buying off hackers to do their dirty work rather than going by in-game rules is beyond me. While Ready Player One is definitely higher in production value, I would say that the end product is about the same as SAO. The whole story is about Wade being the awesome rebel against OSI, even though most of his achievements are due to the actions of his friends or just dumb luck (particularly the Extra Life). Wade is as every bit as bland as Kirito. At the beginning of the movie, he gives us a boring intro to the world. His motivation for finding the easter egg is nothing - "I want money and a big house," which, while relatable, isn't exactly big and does nothing to make him stand out. The only thing he really has to distinguish his otherwise underwhelming facade is 80s trivia, and that's not even him. His whole character is based around trivia about the Oasis' creator, who is in turn simply a collection of 80s trivia. Wade is the shadow of a husk - there's honestly less to him than Kirito, and that's terrible. And, to top it all off, there's Ready Player One's message. Spoilers for the ending. The whole movie builds up that gaming can be a transformative experience. You will make friends, take part in amazing experiences, and maybe even find love. Then, at the end, when it's all said in done, the movie tells you "don't." They talk up reality despite nothing in the movie relating to that. Lost opportunities are a major theme, but nothing hinted at a real vs. digital divide which the message talks up. All in all, Ready Player One is just a big-budget, western SAO. Overly popular, full of potential, but used only to indulge in the creator's fantasies without capitalizing on its premise. It's a sad mess, one I honestly didn't expect to write this much on.

[@zerosypher0114]

LOVE THE Xenogears outro theme! BIG FAN! Great vid too. Thanks for posting!

[@an8strengthkobold360]

I would probably find mineta funnier if the aduiance was frequently shown the people he was trying to creep on. It's like: 1) Mineta trys to be a creep 2) His plan falls apart and he's punished for being a pervert 3) the audience is shown the naked characters he was creeping on, getting exactly what mineta was punished for

There were many shows that had not interesting plot, bad animation etc. but I watched them anyway because the charaters were interesting and had something going on. The only reason I keep watching rwby is you, fatman, other great critics and fanfictions since even an averge fanfic is better written then the show it self. I´ve never been an anime fan, personaly i prefer cartoons because it just fits into what I like more (ATLA, BoJack Horseman, Adventure Time and South Park beeing my top 5) and my friend tried make watch anime many time but I never finished it. But you made me curious. I´ve seen many clips of little witch academia and found the animation and colors to be gorgeous. I guess that´s my biggest problem with anime that I´m not really into it´s typical art style. Again, but, after this vid I really wanna watch the show. Which is never I thought I would do - watch anime (bc rwby isnt anime and the only anime i´ve seen the gregory horror show but that doesn´t really fit into the category) So yea, thanks for this amazing video I enjoyed it a lot. And I think I deserve to watch a new good show after volume 5. Sorry this is a bit longer. If you read this and don´t mind responding, which one is better to watch (for an anime beginner) - Little Whitch or My Hero? Looking forward for you upcoming projects :3

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

Furča Sierra I'd recommend my hero its a pretty good underdog story with intresting lovable cast

[@wolfywonder8480]

Honestly, both shows are incredible!! I'd recommend both of them, but to start, I'd maybe suggest Little Witch Academia? It's a lot more fun, colorful and palatable than My Hero Academia may be. In the ladder, you really have to strap in for an all-encompassing show, and if you are just dabbling in anime at the moment, that may come to be too big of a burden or damper on your and could hurt your enjoyment of it. Little Witch has just enough breathing room to let you feel like you aren't obligated to finish it, and isn't as expansive, either, with only 25 episodes compared to MHA's 63 or so. Still, your choice! Good luck!

[@carlmart5797]

Watching RWBY get destroyed by its fans is more entertaining than RWBY itself at this point, I swear to the Great Ones.

[@GokaikillerTobi]

Carl Mart they are very blind

[@93ImagineBreaker]

at times watching fans defend these flaws is just as fun

[@GokaikillerTobi]

93ImagineBreaker I see plenty of that

[@sassui90]

I wonder if they really have no one else more suited for the writing of the show and if so why haven't they replaced the current ones.

[@Hartzilla2007]

“I swear to the Great Ones” What that creepy looking Pyrrha doll?

[@MrRemicas]

The problem of RWBY is how unfocused the writers are. The first image of the show was Ruby standing in front of her mother's grave, then they decided to focus on everything except that. And even then, the idea that the grave belonged to the character's mother was the songwriter's idea, not even the show's creator. That's why we have so many elements that could work well on their own or if the writers were actually good enough to tie them together. But Miles and Kerry are not, so we end up with a completely neglected main protagonist, inconsistent characterization, more holes in the plot than in a swiss cheese and self-contradicting world-building.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

At this point pretty sure or feel rwby is 50% make up as they go.

[@Dragonage2ftw]

“so we end up with a completely neglected main protagonist, inconsistent characterization, more holes in the plot than in a swiss cheese and self-contradicting world-building.” None of that is accurate.

[@ZoneSkye]

Dragonage2ftw While I never dwell on those arguments (mostly because RWBY is just meant to be a fun show for me and not a story to be taken too seriously), I get the feeling what this guy’s arguing is not completely wrong either. The commenter just needs to give some examples of how RWBY fails at those categories to give credence to his statement.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Dragonage2ftw elaborate please

[@MasterPoppers]

Dragonage2ftw Seriously, if you aren't going to elaborate on your replies, and just going to say "No, you're wrong", then there is no point of you commenting in the first place. You are worthless to the conversation. So either write a f*cking cohesive argument or leave.

[@parksolomon7084]

One thing I find funny about Roman is that despite being one of the best written characters in the show, he wasn't even planned to have a big role in the first place. They only kept him around because they liked his voice actor's performance.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

far more interested in him than anything with most other villains

[@thinkinginn7443]

I agree, Roman was a great villain and had so much potential. If Ruby has any motivation it's her desire to protect the people she cares about. When Roman said 'It's not about what I have to gain, it's what I can't afford to lose' I honestly thought that was going to be the moment he was solidified to be her foil: a person that wants to protect the things they care about by alleging to whoever makes it easier to protect them, even if they're the bad guy. And then they kill him off!! The enigmatic, motivated, three-dimensional villain introduced from day one and they kill him off T_T and Ruby doesn't even deliver the final blow!

[@maiseree1511]

Ironically it's also the only time they follow their world building elements. They've always explained that grimm are attracted to emotions of extreme negativity and Torchwick was definitely very negative during that time

[@allisondempsey982]

Yes, thank you. I thought I was the only one who actually liked Roman Torchwick in RWBY and was mad that Rooster Teeth killed them off in volume 3. Roman torchwick had a Swagger about him, that commanded your presence. He was literally the definition of a Smooth Criminal.

[@ROOFKOR3AN]

Rooster teeth destroyer of good shows

[@kulasboy4503]

@@ROOFKOR3AN yang xiao long, destroyer of chap ..11 and 12

[@perdixgeek807]

Monty died he probably had ideas of her motive but yeah

[@rainzacket]

I’m sorry to hear things have been rough for you Celtic. I am hoping things get better for you soon. As much as I like RWBY, I admit that it can’t hold a candle to My Hero Academia and Little Witch Academia. I want to give RWBY some slack for being a web series and not as professionally produced as other anime. But at the same time I want it to be good, so I want to add my own thoughts to the discussion. One of the major things that bugs me about the show is how much is going on. There are so many characters given a lot of screen-time and set up to be awesome characters, but a lot of them don’t serve much of a purpose in the story, and others just vanished several volumes later. And we have so many plot-lines to go through, some of which have been dropped, neglected, or not fully developed. Where-as other plot-points (such as Yang’s relationship with Raven) takes several years to reach a pay-off despite set-up fairly early on. Another big issue is that RWBY has a “tell, don’t show” kind of story-telling the other two anime do both show and tell. RWBY talks about racism towards Faunus, which is hardly seen in the core stories. The best info we get is the World of Remnant series, but not in the main story. The best we get is the restaurant in Haven that has a sign that reads “No faunus”. Whereas My Hero Academia and Little Witch Academia does a better job of showing how people with less or no powers get quite a bit of flak. Deku is chastised for trying to be a hero despite having no powers at the beginning while Akko is chided for not being that good at magic. These series show things while RWBY has to TELL us things we need to understand. My biggest grievance with RWBY right now is the kind of plot it has going for it so far. My Hero Academia and Little Witch Academia are, in the end, character driven with personal goals and stakes being the main focus. RWBY has their main plot point driving the narrative being the Relics, which are shaping up to be MacGuffins. And the Maidens themselves are almost like walking MacGuffins themselves. So the plot right now boils down to “finding people who are plot-devices, to get other plot devices to stop the end of the world.” Compared to MHA and LWA, RWBY’s main conflict feels… dry by comparison. I was invested in Deku and Akko’s personal journeys, I can’t say the same for Ruby. Again, I like RWBY, but I can’t ignore it’s got major problems. Yes, Little Witch and My Hero both have their own fair share of issues, no series is perfect. Yet those two anime have a lot of positives that make you overlook a lot of the negatives. RWBY struggles because its long-term problems are starting to show. It wasn’t as well planned out, and it’s begun to be obvious. I want RWBY to improve, and it’s easier to make these suggestions in hindsight after five years of the series already.

[@Soragop]

I pray that you end up getting a better job.

[@arnowisp6244]

Deshawn Wright He really deserves it. Bless him.

[@torricoarksha833]

@@arnowisp6244 agree

[@iakintloin9040]

Same here

[@ducky953]

you don't like RWBY cause it doesn't have the word Academia in the title.

[@CelticPhoenix]

That's fair.

[@SwitchbackCh]

Gun Huntress Academia.

[@ProxyDoug]

RWBY Academia sounds like an interesting game idea.

[@MrRemicas]

My Huntress Academia.

[@CtisGaming]

+Douglas Rosa No, RWBY's world would be far better served outside of Beacon where there's actually enemies to fight and stakes to combat.

[@SwitchbackCh]

If I wanna nitpick, they're not a "better RWBY" because they're not even in the same league. Even though LWA started as an OVA, it was helmed by anime veteran Yoh Yoshinari, so it was really just small in terms of scale. RWBY was indie from the very start and the mistake it made was RT pretending it wasn't a fun indie action show and made it a bloated fantasy epic. But then again, MHA was written entirely by Horikoshi Kohei with some input from his editor, so... what do I know.

[@jiado6893]

Given that the first episode opens with Salem narrating, who we don't even see or hear again about until the end of Volume 3, it does seem like Monty wanted this to be a high stakes fantasy story.

[@twinkiesmaster69]

Lets just rename it to "RWBY:huntsmen Academia" and hope that it suddenly becoms better

[@CelticPhoenix]

I like you're thinking. You get a promotion!

[@twinkiesmaster69]

Celtic Phoenix Productions YES SIR! i will make that best of it , sir!

[@marca8368]

Soul Eater is really a better RWBY. It is in a school, it's silly and creepy and the protagonist is a girl with a scythe, but the school has a very well established logic, the plot know when to be silly, serious and both, and Maka have clear motivations.

[@wellidontknow1941]

Yep, also characters have, well, distinct characters, depth, form interesting relationships with each other and develop as story progresses

[@UrbanTheMyth]

Hey man, if I could recommend another fantastic power system it would be Hunter x Hunter's nen system. The nen system offers a lot of freedom and expression as well as a more complex way to look at things like aura, (using it offensively, defensively, choosing where to focus your nen, etc). HxH is a bit of a long watch but it does a lot of things right that RWBY couldn't figure out how to do.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

UrbanTheMyth Funny that Miles and Kerry have seen Togashis work and praised it ....though you'd think it'd help them figure out how to make a power system

[@ProxyDoug]

One Piece would be another one in which I think the characters stretch their powers to the limit of they can do. A way longer watch, but worth most of the way.

[@lincolnbeckett8791]

"a bit of a long watch" is quite the understatement. I'm 70 episodes in, and I'll admit it has a good power system, but nothing else in particular that I can think o has been all that good (except the YorkNew arc). At least not for it to be held as the masterpiece everyone keeps claiming it to be.

[@UrbanTheMyth]

The Chimera Ant arc should be coming up for you soon, hopefully that will get you hooked. And honestly, I could understand if you're not getting into it, it's kinda slow and HEAVILY relies on its cast. You really have to fall in love with the characters to gain investment. I would recommend dialing your expectations back a bit and not heavily binge watching it, that's what I did and it admittedly ruined some aspects for me.

[@randomusername3445]

I like nen and it is very self expressive but the story of HunterxHunter defeats the aura of nen. First off it's supposed to be rare but after tower of heaven it's treated as common and after leorio says he can't do such and such it never really touches on and makes it feel just how rare it actually is. Then the Chimera Ant arc happened where these creatures are born with and can instantly learn nen to the point where they don't even need to learn new abilities to do anything and when they do it just happens and worse it doesn't and there just that strong. Then komogi happened and it turns out that anyone can learn nen just by being really good at something and a specialist at that. So, what ended up happening is the thing that's supposed to the most special is now by far the least special.

[@redlock1353]

Literally binged Little Witch Academia just for this video. Thanks for introducing me to the show. Ironically, the last thing I binge watched was BNHA. Not sure if that's the correct use of ironically, but scholars are free to debate.

[@CelticPhoenix]

I think it fits well enough XD

[@relic5752]

Filip Zemiakovic Eeh, more coincidental than irony

[@SkyMushrooms]

My hero's villains get really good later, one of my favourite villains won't be in the anime for a while but I'm hyped af

[@BigFearedBalloon]

I'm going to be curious about the Masked Person in Orange, who look kinda similar to Roman Torchwick. I've only seen a picture of him in the Villain's Theme Ost, but I'm excited to see what he's going to be about.

[@yassermontasser7196]

Big Feared Balloon keep an eye on the deadpool guy , he's one of the most unique and original characters I've seen lately in any type of literature when it comes to his backstory

[@mediaocrity4]

I think Ruby’s motivation post-volume 3 is to save the world. Still shallow but it’s something. I think she wants a return to the status quo. I think if the show focused in on a rivalry for her early on we could make the excuse that she’s wanting to prove herself in light of her accelerated course. But alas, it is not so.

[@MrRemicas]

Or instead of one rival, having her prove her worth to different people. Like her place as a student to Weiss, as a leader to Blake, and a fighter to Yang. And maybe even Pyrrha who's pretty much everything Ruby would like to be. As for motivation, simply establish early on that everything she does is in relation to her late mother.

[@mcpics4448]

mediaocrity4 if rivalry thing was introduced in rwby think it better if it was Weiss or pyrrha who are the rivals since both characters work well with each other story wise and can show what ruby is failing in term of both personal and academia growth. That being Pyrrha the ideal huntsman that ruby would naturally aspire to and would want to focus on, as for Weiss it be more understanding of a fierce rivalry add to the account to Weiss insecurity, ineptitude, and cynical when it come to the outside her worldview so those could come to play with ruby optimistic and carefree attitude which will lead to conflict and misunderstandings which will resolve by learn more of each as results

[@SwitchbackCh]

The feeling I get is that Ruby was always meant to be this wide-eyed idealist who wanted to be a Huntress, but later would come into her own as being the only person with the "simple soul" to destroy the Grimm and defeat Salem. The series is somewhat doing something along these lines, albeit in a very poorly executed manner. Me and quite a few fans have the impression Ruby was supposed to undergo a lot of hardships and organically shift her motivations as time went on. Wanting to be a Huntress who fights monsters is like a kid wanting to be a fireman and save people. But after living life and understanding the meaning of sacrifice and hope, she has to learn that her combat prowess (killing monsters) is not what saves the world, but hope and overcoming negativity that the Grimm exploit (a simple soul). Oobleck's talk with WBY highlights a lot of this in the Mountain Glenn arc and I feel this was what they were leading to. No doubt her mother is supposed to play a huge role her too, like the classic "carry the torch" character arc of Ruby finishing what her mother couldn't. But unfortunately, the writing team is allergic to Ruby's mother and silver eyes for whatever reason. I think the only reason they even had it in Volume 5 was just an "oh crap" move so that the viewers won't ask later why didn't Ruby use it at all during the finale.

[@MrRemicas]

Switchback. A smaller, more honest soul. The adjective simple was never used inv the show proper, only in V1's opening. And you're right, considering Ruby's greatest attribute, according to Salem, Jaune et Ozpin, is her ability to inspire hope. But since they don't focus that much on Ruby and her own struggles, nor let her make meaningful actions, instead sidelining her most of the time, it doesn't work as well as intended. To me, that issue comes from the writers having the wrong priority. MHA is Dekku's story. The other characters have their own stories, but ultimately they are part of Dekku's. And I assume the same for LWA. RWBY, however, is not Ruby's story. They want to tell the stories of the ensemble cast, in which Ruby's is one amongst the other. For example, in V4 they were more interested in telling Ren and Nora's rather than Ruby's, and in V5 Ozcar's. And to me, they need to realise their mistake and make Ruby the actual driving force of the show instead of just paying lip services to her character.

[@SwitchbackCh]

Remicas Quite right. This is very basic storytelling and this probably was a problem all the way since Jaunedice, but among all the problems in RWBY, this one is one of the easier ones to fix, because the material is there. Steer the plot away from the MacGuffins and back to Ruby, her mother and her silver eyes, and we'll have a more compelling character-driven narrative. If Ruby becomes enough of a driving force, the villains will have to react to HER, not the other way around. If they'd just slow down and not get so excited about getting to Atlas and just settle, the characters might have just enough breathing room to grow.

[@mayflower6403]

I'm sorry you've been going through a lot lately, and I hope that things get better for you. I like both LWA and MHA and I'm glad this video exists!

[@enriquesenior7897]

Ya me to

[@ROOFKOR3AN]

What about RWBY

[@kingsley_]

Man, I find it really nice to find a video analyzing Little Witch Academia, even if it had to share the time with My Hero Academia and RWBY. I found your analysis of all three shows pretty entertaining and that you made some very good points, especially with Ruby being an underdeveloped character, a fact I did not realize until you compared her to better written characters like Izuku and Akko. Little Witch Academia is not as popular as My Hero Academia and RWBY are so finding videos like this are quite rare. I would love it if you talked about the show again in a similar analytical manner! :)

[@CelticPhoenix]

I'm tempted to for sure! My next big one is certainly going to be more RWBY, I would like to come back to LWA at some point. I just need to figure out a good topic to cover it with!

[@jiado6893]

Ruby Rose, to me and others, is made interesting by her frank innocence DESPITE what's gleaned about her past. Her backstory sounds like it could be out of an edge lord’s fanfic scribblings. Her mother died, the dad fell into a depression, the uncle is a perpetually drunk black ops agent; she dresses in red and black, wears a hood, and fights with an oversized Grim Reaper scythe. Despite the shit she’s had to endure, she remains the most hopeful and idealistic, determined to better the world through the role of a huntress. Then comes the ending of Volume 3, with her life (and the entire planet) taking a turn for the worst. But I'm in agreement that she's been greatly stalled in Volume 5, which felt like it was rushing around to conclude vital development for some people, while also being setup The concept of a veneer is one of the most over-arching themes of RWBY. It extends to the entire cast. Yang is an extroverted party girl, who can turn into a warm mother figure whenever a person is in need. Yet she’ll put her life at risk with little hesitance in order to get a single step closer to confronting the mother that left her. She only stops in order to take care of other people, a lesson beaten hard into her by near-death out in the woods with Ruby in tow. She seems to consider herself as incomplete, for being seemingly discarded by her original mother. Blake spends a large portion of her time at Beacon in disguise, obviously. Yet her deception takes a far deeper effort. Maintaining her cover and leaving behind the Fang means keeping her head down. Should be a piece of cake for an introvert and total bookworm, right? But Blake burns with a passion that steers her towards strong opinions and social activism. Trying to keep her view of right and wrong beaten down eventually made her explode. ven when he's gotten actual lines and screen time, Ren is always a very low-key person. He doesn't try to look cool, mysterious or intimidating to avoid attention; making purposeful attempts at staying under the radar would just make him more memorable. But, keeping with RWBY's theme on veneers, it seems like he has the most demons. Sure, all the characters in this show have seen some serious shit. But Ren lost both parents, all his neighbors, and his entire home in a single brutal night. We see how it's eaten at him when the Nuckelavee stepped back into his life. He's the only character we've seen in this show lose themselves in a rage* and disregard his own chances of survival. True, Yang had moments of anger tied to her semblance. But that was portrayed as a power boost, or just played for comedy. She might have been hot headed, but never savage and devoid of critical thought. The series had certainly never approached the subject of indirect suicide, as implied by Nora; though the audience had been expecting the subject of trauma to be broached after the life shattering events of Volume three. Contrast his driven vengeance to Nora. Tons of fans (myself included) would describe her as the most childlike of the main cast, with her bubbly, energetic, and uninhibited behavior. But in one important way, Nora is the more forward thinking of the duo, in that she even considers romance. Certainly she's undermined by indecision, with pondering the difference between what she has now and what she could have with Ren, as well as the risk of losing it. But she's still thinking about the idea of family, an important piece for imaging the future (I'm not romantic in the slightest, but I still acknowledge relations like that are a vital part of human existence.) So ironically, the most childlike character is acknowledging how she's becoming a woman. But what do you suppose Ren thinks of when he ponders the idea of "family?" I would bet you anything he just thinks back to that one night. Nora is capable of looking ahead (a theme of Volume 4), but Ren has still been obsessing over the past. Veneers are also essential just for the existence of civilization on Remnent; 98% of the world is controlled by demon beast. Yet whenever we observe anyone in Beacon or Vale, there isn’t any of the oppressive, despairing atmosphere like in Attack on Titan or The Walking Dead. Remnant’s world leaders probably wouldn’t want it any other way. Citizens not seeing or thinking of the Grimm probably do as much to keep their hordes away as much as any mountain or desert. So this theme permeates every level of the show.

[@jasonwhite4494]

@@jiado6893 Yeah you are making a lot of fan theories to defend the bad writing and one dimensional boring characters of RWBY. But none of what you are saying is actually shown in the show.

[@emmyq7475]

I think Miles and Kerry will look back at RWBY the same way 25-30 year-olds look back at their "Rawr XD" days in high school. RWBY would have been best (in my opinion), as an over-the-top, balls-to-the-wall comedy with crazy action. The cafeteria fight is probably the best tonal example of what RWBY should have been, instead of trying to be a serious show. Rooster Teeth is really good at cheeky, college bro-style humour. Miles and Kerry are a couple of 30 year-old college bros that looked at anime and tried to make what they saw, without understanding what it takes to create those types of shows. That's why we get a lot of empty tropes and gags; the writers aren't writers, they're guys who are learning to become writers, as they write a show. They supposedly have a list of moments/ideas that they want to include in each volume, and that's not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself; the problem is that they basically only care about those moments/ideas and not what connects them. "So we're gonna have a cool fight where this guy wants revenge on Ozpin and he injects himself with crystals" "Oh cool, so why does he wanna kill Ozpin?" "oh, uh, I dunno, just give him a motivation like his sister died or something, we can figure that out later" "yeah, okay gud 'nuff" If Rooster Teeth ever gets a chance to reboot RWBY, I think it will be a much better series the second time around if they can pick a tine and stick to it.

[@MrRemicas]

Emmy Quiades Especially considering Hazel was according to them amongst the firsts concept they had for the show. "What if Hansel lost his Gretel". And during five years they never realised it wouldn't work.

[@BigFearedBalloon]

Yeah, a reboot would be the best course of actions. It would also help polish Volume 1 which is probably the second weakest chain with No. 1 going to Volume 5. It could improve on the graphics, lore, some new scenarios (if done right) etc. while fixing mistakes like the dumb 4 episode arc, with Jaune Arc. There could be a lot done with it. It would be better to go back and fix stuff now before it becomes too late, or near impossible.

[@chaosXP3RT]

I fully support a RWBY reboot

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

"Miles and Kerry are a couple of 30 year-old college bros that looked at anime and tried to make what they saw, without understanding what it takes to create those types of shows." This sums up pretty much my entire problem with Rooster Teeth trying something like this. They employ all these well-known and well-done tropes and arcs and gags without understanding them one bit, so it's the most superficial bland execution of everything they try. I can imagine their minds going "SO this show does this thing, so that means we should do that thing, but without all the stuff that makes that thing good." The best example of this is the tournament arc. Yeah yeah, lots of fans will tout it as the highlight of the series because it was a lot of fights, but it was shit for a tournament arc. Rather than using the tournament arc to introduce a bunch of characters and their motivations and pit their motivations against each other and whatnot, they just thought that merely having a bunch of fighting would suffice. And they couldn't be more wrong. They don't even understand why fight scenes are so attractive in the first place. They just think that having cool moves and weapons is enough, when that's only a small part of the equation. They're writing a combat-centered series, and they don't understand how to write combat to be engaging. Hell, they couldn't even be bothered to come up with a decent reason for the tournament even existing in the first place. Grimm are attracted to negative emotion, and they want a festival where negative emotions are bound to occur (from losing, at least).

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

I support a RWBY reboot, but with different writers at the helm. I don't trust Miles and Kerry to write so much as a creative story for a 5th grade class, let alone a long-term serialized series. I've heard anywhere from 10 to 20 volumes of this shit. Like they were going to be able to keep this shit up for 2 decades.

[@dracocrusher]

Oh, don't worry. I've read the My Hero Academia manga.... It has LOADS of amazingly written villains across the board, with most of the League of Villain members either heading in an interesting direction or having a surprising amount of depth and personality behind them once they start opening up. Especially in the Overhaul Arc, which the series probably won't get to until Season 4.

[@iakintloin9040]

S4 is out now

[@marysworld9760]

overhaul scare the crap out of me

[@whyamihere4889]

F for Fuck you overhaul

[@jajagaming3602]

I like how they do the villians. They make them seem they are just to be evil in our eyes and the heroes eyes but in reality they have a motive.

[@dracocrusher]

Can't wait for the anime to finally get to the "My Villain Academia" arc, lol

[@DavyEddyBenny]

I'm quite dissapointed of how underwhelming RWBY has becoming lately, but also I'm sick of those haters that shit on RWBY endlessly without context. This video of yours is great, pointing out RWBY's flaws in a very calm state while also talking about my current two favorite animes. Well done, dude.

[@TheDarioushurt]

thanks for proving his point

[@thefloofartist1908]

This video was amazing. I give it a Floof/10.

[@yugoxgc]

I actually dropped RWBY alter V3. I know The Day that one ended it felt like after that point The show would only get more interesting but it was Also a point I realised it becomes more frustrating The more I think about it. I mean The freaking openings set up a better story Than anything you get in The show & The more I think of that The more painful it gets just how hard The show falls flat In execution of any theme implied in those songs

[@DarkChocolateGamer]

We don't speak about Volume 5

[@blackwolf249]

That's bulshit! We don't say that overrated line ever!

[@whyamihere4889]

But Maria in vol. 6 was hilarious

[@justadude8202]

Or Volume 4 that was a cringe fest also

[@dudemcguy8949]

Or the entire show

[@cannonfire0187]

More fixing RWBY!

[@CelticPhoenix]

I'M WORKING ON IT, I PROMISE! XD

[@CreationsFlare]

RWBY is an amazing....case study. I wouldn't call myself a writer by any means, but it's helped me understand what it takes to write decent characterization. I say this as someone who, with a group of others, tear down the flim-flam rules RWBY has instated to create a sort of flat line that'd allow others to actually create content. Or, in shorter terms, just an OC fandom. It's a show we never really needed to be great, although we wanted it to be for such success. The fact that it's spearheaded by RT alone will mark its success as a quirky Western show inspired by Anime. Albeit for most Volume 2 was probably one of the weirder volumes for most, it holds my probable highest regards because that the Volume I believe this show wanted to be. Volume 3 had probably the greatest twist the show could offer (characters getting offed, a main character actually being moderately maimed), but Volume 2 shows me where this show wanted to be in expanding what Hunters have to actually deal with. I'm not given a reason to care about anything in the show, and a ton of the twists the show provides that fascinates and thrills others are incredibly telegraphed because it's literally the only means of progression. It's been over half a decade and we've only ever seen perhaps a generous 1/10th of the world they live in. This wouldn't matter if the show didn't take precedence of the idea that some "grand" adventure that the characters have will change them and the world around them, despite already traveling through entire continents hasn't so much as even made a budge and leaving more holes unanswered like a termite infestation. At the very least, RWBY showed me how to not actually write a character's engagement and to lose sight of what said character wants rather than to just tell some random narrative that may only have meaning later rather than sooner.

[@GokaikillerTobi]

CreationsFlare I've realized this as well

[@tobimadara7539]

Rwby is bad

[@shujinstorm]

I don't want any of the member of team RWBY in a relationship with each other(I am not against Lesbians) because Monty didn't want them to be in a relationship. He wanted them to have a sisterly bond with each other.

[@milesedgeworth132]

There is a better RWBY and it came out before RWBY. It's called 90% of shonens. Naruto is basically RWBY. School students learning to fight together. Happy go lucky series becomes darker. Evil terrorists bad guys. Bigger bad in the shadows. Cinder is basically Orochimaru. If we're talking about the main heroines it could be Yu Yu Hakusho or HxH. Two of the main characters are really close and able to communicate well, with one acting as a more developed person so the main character can continue being happy-go-lucky: Yusuke/Kuwabara(might be dumb but he always pulls Yusuke back from his ego), Ruby/Yang, Gon/Killua. One of them is always brooding and has a tragic past with unfinished business: Hiei, Kurapika and Blake. One is just there for neutral balance and is well-off for some reason: Kurama, Leorio, Weiss. Now, RWBY is going through its "Make MC mature" plot and it's trying to make it darker, but the writers suck. Yusuke had his training with Genkai, and the final test against Toguro. Gon had his training with Kite, and his final test against Neferpitou. Ruby has what? Is Qrow gonna die? Probably not. The writers haven't thought it through at all. I never understood the love for RWBY when it never did anything unique, nor better. It felt like an attempt. Guess people fell in love with the potential.

[@MasterPoppers]

I have Little Witch Academia on my watchlist for this summer, so I'll come back to this video after I'm finished with exams and binging the show. Sorry for your circumstances, mate.

[@MasterPoppers]

AND FINISHED! That was wild. Thanks for pushing me to watch it!

[@naumsei6221]

Dropped Rwby, I watch some episodes but just to get a glance in how bad it is.

[@vegeta353658]

Can you explain why you thought RWBY was bad?

[@lucaspoon4202]

Missing out bro... Its got problems and definitely isnt perfect but its got some greatness in there too. Sure not a lot happens in first few and animation starts off clunky but it's worth deciding for your yourself and not going off what others say.

[@koskk_]

I realized RWBY had gone irreversibly down the drain when I started being more interesting in Blake's storyline than anyone else's.... I (borderline) hate Blake

[@JayRedGear]

Same here

[@blackwolf249]

I agree, Blake has basically become the Chad "Kicker" Jones of RWBY.

[@specter_badguy9675]

And to make it worse Miles and Kerry are apparently not going by what Monty wanted so yay

[@manuelcabeza5527]

Seccond Cake of lies they should have improve Monty vision not ignore him

[@blackwolf249]

@@manuelcabeza5527 this also shows just how stupid they are. This is why they should have called it quits after Volume 5.

[@TheBlackSerpentBeta]

A bit problem with the story of RWBY is the clash between its setting and word lore As while it its shows itself on the surface to be a highschool based, like MHA and LWA, its lore is much close to that of Bloodborne: a hopeless nightmare for which there is no escape. In fact, its worse than Bloodborne, as at least with bloodborne the nightmare only lasts a single night, while RWBY's nightmare will not go away with the sun rise and will endure eternally Personally I think the setting helps it, as it builds upon a theory of mine. That the name of Vale can be taken much more literally, as a "Veil" the people use to block out the horrors of the outside world (and would also explain why knowledge about Grim is so limited within Vale and why the people are so sheltered and ignorant The setting of a school adds to this idea, with the characters essentially hiding away in an embodiment of childhood, while preparing themselves to face whats beyond But I doubt that's the actual thing going on, as the writers are too incompetent to make something like that work

[@TromboneMaster95]

My problem is that, especially in the last season, the animation choreography has gotten really lazy. Like almost inexcusably lazy. S1 looked pretty bad. The art was unpolished, the animation was awkward at times (looking at you cinder running on the rooftops), but the choreography was amazing. The battles had a sense of ebb and flow, and it made it feel like an actual fight was happening. This last season basically shat on all of that. I have gotten into so many fights with people who adamantly defend the choreography but heres the problem, there almost isnt choreography. Not only did we cut away from 90% of fights in the latest season, but the ones that were left were trash. The one I punch at the most (and subsequently has gotten me yelled at the most) is the yang character trailer. I'll never understand why some fans defended it so fiercely early on, but yang fighting that grim was closer to cringe than anything else. The culmination of the fight is yangs final punch meeting the grims punch. That's fine and everything but an 8 second action where the punches just stay connected (with one person in the air) isn't good choreography. It's garbage. It's like an 8 year old designing a fight after watching dragonball z. What is even supposed to be happening? I know Monty loved to use "The Rule of Cool" to help guide his fights, but this doesn't fall under that. It's the 8 year old version of the rule of cool. And that's what a lot of the season that followed felt like: An 8 year old deciding what falls under the rule of cool

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

And that's one of the shows biggest problems. The loss of Monty, which unfortunately was something out of Rooster Teeth's control.

[@noobartist6009]

Been already said a dozen times before me but RWBY is a perfect example of wasted potential. And that was fine for me back in vol 1 which despite its flaws always felt like the show was more concerned with being colourful and fun. The writing was never particularly good but it was always small scale and light hearted. Now their to do the Zack Snyder thing, making a show I only watched to unwind get 'dark and gritty' with the writing only getting worse every season. *sigh* Wish it never left the lighter tone with the releaseof every volume since 4.

[@Warclam]

That is _exactly_ the problem with RWBY for me. Yeah, it's not good. Lots of things aren't good. But it was _fun._ I wanted to see these cartoon characters clowning around and beating up monsters. Nope. Time for GRIMDARK. Roman is one of my favourite antagonists in any show, and Penny is one of my favourite characters, of any kind, ever. Nope. Anything fun must die. RWBY is GRIMDARK territory now.

[@noobartist6009]

Warclam Yeah, the fun character interactions were always the one thing the show had going for it and axing Roman was a big mistake. The lore use to be facinating but now they just travel from point A-B to the what plot wants.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

Worse it how sudden and forced it came within the same season they went from nut shot jokes and you can count on 1 hand someone bleeds to doom and gloom from nowhere

[@CtisGaming]

The problem is that the plotlines they chose require that. A faunus uprising against discrimination gone terrorist can never be fun and joyous. If it was just fighting back the Grim with Salem coming in to uproot them from within before a final confrontation it could be uplifting and light hearted. But as it stands RWBY needs drama and darkness to sell its enemies' threat and build on the already established story elements.

[@Heartnix95]

I think the main problem with RWBy is that it promised a lot of things but it never delivered those things just like No Man's Sky and that's kind of the problem....

[@Little_Eris]

Even though you guys are not fans of RWBY anymore, I still like the show and I respect those who do like and don't like it. But actually I watch little witch Academia and my hero Academia( my hero is my favorite anime BTW) those shows are way better RWBY( no offense to anyone who still likes to show but opinions are opinions)

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

I think the biggest issue with RWBY was the loss of Monty, who was the driving force behind the show in both its story as well as its fight choreography, which is where part of the criticisms of the show come from.

[@Vgamer311]

One reason I find it so funny that you compared Rwby to MHA is that MHA started good but somehow manages to get even better with each passing season while Rwby did basically the exact opposite, starting out pretty good but getting steadily worse as time passes.

[@GokaikillerTobi]

Vgamer311 well said

[@GokaikillerTobi]

The manga destroys the lore exploration of rwby

[@Vgamer311]

GokaikillerTobi I actually haven’t read the manga myself, so I’m not sure what you mean.

[@GokaikillerTobi]

Vgamer311 spoiler deku eventually learns to control one for all better to the point he sees a flashback of the previous one for all users and the first person who possessed one for all who of course is related to all for one it basically shows the history and the future of what deku will have to face

[@Vgamer311]

GokaikillerTobi oh, okay. Actually by the way the comment was phrased I originally thought you meant the RWBY manga.

[@ItsCassius]

I don’t necessarily agree that a main character having no motivation is inherently a bad thing, I just think RWBY’s direction with it was bad. In my story, and in Final Fantasy XIII, the main characters really don’t WANT any part in the story they’ve been thrown into. It’s like Negative Motivation, and it works pretty effectively. With RWBY, they’re tried to give her Positive Motivation with her aspirations of becoming a Huntress, but those aspirations don’t even align with her current objective in stopping Salem. The ‘Negative Motivation’ occurs when you realise that Ozpin knowingly dragged her into this war under false pretences because of her eyes. That in principle is perfectly fine. What IS NOT fine is her lack of progression. She hasn’t changed at all even after two character deaths and the dismemberment of her sister. She hasn’t put 2+2 together in realising Ozpin was just using her (despite Qrow very literally telling her it’s because of her eyes and nothing else). It feels like whatever drastic changes to the story they made after Vol 2 has buggered her development up. She’s stuck in a limbo of Mary Sue-ness because her original character arc seems to be completely different to where the story currently is. She’s like a line of code that you keep in a program because you know it won’t do anything to affect it anymore, and you’re too lazy to get rid of it.

[@SwitchbackCh]

I agree. I think from the start Ruby was meant to be this innocent child that the villains and the world would constantly try to break, but she just comes out stronger every time. She doesn't lose her innocence, but rather it vecomes maturity as she never loses hope. She is the simple soul the world needs. She can be a very good and inspiring protagonist if she's done right. But now, they don't know what to do with her even though all the material is right there from the start: her mother and her eyes. They traded her innocence for naiveté and stupidity, which is an easy mistake to fall into and the worst thing you can do with an innocent hero archetype. Deku and Akko pull off the wide-eyed hero well because they are constantly growing and learning. They're idealistic, but also incredibly resourceful and intelligent, and in the end it's their idealism they chose to never betray that makes them into a true hero. Ruby however, is barely given any meaningful screentime, let alone space to grow and learn.

[@sokumotanaka9271]

Using ff 13 is a horrible example. Lightning being flat boring, having little to no modivation, bad voice acting and not wanting to be in her own story made that one of the biggest reasons she's refered to as one of the shittest characters ever. There are constant podcast. written reviews etc where people talk about how aweful she is. You're right it has a possibility to work but it takes alot of work and care and both rwby and ff13 are prime examples of how bad they are and now it's not an often used thrope. And no offense but you're not really touching any points he hasn't alreadu explained perfectly . The problem is if you're protagonist in a tv show or certain other media isn't interesting the audience doesn't care what happens to said character nor are they interesting in their possible story. This is another reason ff13 failed so hard because no one cared about lightning little people care about her story. Of course there's again an argument to be made you're right about a main character having no modivations isn't bad but you're going at it in the wrong way. In video games their are silent protagonist that can work and still have character despite having no motivations and you can offset said silent protag with a cast of interesting characters and there are books and every other media where the point is for the character to discover their motivations (I.E his harry potter point) but when you have such a delicate and easy to screw up thrope in the hands of people who can't write like (rwby and ff 13 writers) then you end up with poor uses of the idea. Otherwise you just end up with flat characters who satisfy nothing and mean nothing to the story and the people who get into it.

[@ItsCassius]

sokumo tanaka I have the right to the opinion that FF13 in concept was perfectly fine, especially the trilogy. What let FF13 down was that all the story was in optional documents and the localised dialogue was really clunky. The intent was there, and I don’t care about how many other people in these ‘podcasts’ mention she was ‘terrible’ in the first game (she wasn’t great), I’m going to hold my own opinion. That opinion is that even though it was let down by many bad executive decisions, the actual story of FF13 was not one of them. The latter half of Persona 3 is another example, if you’ve played it: Once their aspirations to end the Dark Hour come to a close, they find out they’re trapped in an impending, world-ending catastrophe that they can’t stop. Everyone collectively breaks; Junpei snaps for the first time, Yukari despairs. They all lose heart, they are no longer motivated by anything but almost feel it’s their ‘duty’ to carry out a mission against their own will. And if you’ve played it, you know how that ends. Instead of fixating on one off-hand example I gave off, try reading the post above to better understand what I was trying to say. A character having no motivation can lead to a lot more than what I feel Raymond was acknowledging, it’s just that RWBY got it wrong almost from the get-go. That’s all. I’m impressed you popped off on FF13 for so long though.

[@iquestioneverything3426]

Ozpin didn't drag anyone into any war, rwby chose to go after cinder because she killed her "friends", if anything ozpin is such a perfect figure of authority that the villian who was written to guilt trip him ended up looking like a moron, and salem is probably connected to grimm because she is half human half grimm like the million rwby ocs on deviantart or just a really old grimm so the original motivation fits it's just that it would take a thousand volumes to be connected. So can someone please explain what is the fundamental step to making an unconected motivation or an unmotivated character that still continues the plot for no reason but still make the audience care ? Because ruby still have a motivation it's just that one dimensional monsters are now replaced with one dimensional mooks of one dimensional monsters, player inserts are just the player so that's not the character that is interesting that's the player who is putting their wanted personalities into them that is interesting, if the character finds motivation then they are motivated characters, nobody explains why lighting works or not works as an unmotivated character, and I've never played persona so i have no idea how something that sounds like a bunch of robots just following a predestined path is entertaining.

[@ItsCassius]

i question everythin g It’s really painful how little you’re actually absorbing just so you can keep arguing. I’ve said what I’ve said, I’m not going in circles. Ruby doesn’t have viable motivation anymore but they’re still chugging her along in the hopes no one will notice. Lightning and the XIII crew work because the anxieties of being a part of something they don’t wish to be a part of directly causes moments of in-fighting and stronger character relationships. With RWBY there’s nothing, no substance. For someone called ‘I question everything’ you seem to be unmoving in your established thoughts on the matter. You really do reek of a kid in adult clothing. Good day to you.

[@HattedClassic]

This. This is why I Patreon.

[@CelticPhoenix]

[@lordofdarkness5505]

I still like rwby but now i see What other pepol mean

[@LJ-hk4tv]

Volume 5 is worse than Birdemic.

[@strawberryqueen0382]

LJ the birds in Birdemic had more interesting characters then the birds in RWBY.

[@spencermalley10]

You clearly haven't seen Birdemic.

[@LJ-hk4tv]

Spencer Malley I have, it's Monty Oum tier compared to Volume 5.

[@spencermalley10]

Now I'm certain you haven't actually seen Birdemic.

[@LJ-hk4tv]

Spencer Malley Ok, I'm exaggerating, but it's still shit.

[@Bladecharge]

Aww man that sucks. It would be a long time before RWBY gets "good".

[@15oClock]

Something tells me if they cut and merged the dynamics and characters between Teams RWBY and JNPR, we'd have a better series. I can see it in my head. Makes me wonder what would've happened if Miles and Kerry focused want they wanted to write on them.

[@thesilverblueman]

if they flat out cut team jnpr and used their time for the characters the show is named after it would probably be better the show is trying to shine the spotlight on to many characters and this is especially apparent in rubys case having her screen time used to develop secondary characters rather than herself

[@SwitchbackCh]

15:00 /looks at Pyrrha. Well played. Well, well played.

[@CelticPhoenix]

Eyyyyy ;D

[@PP-2000hunter]

It was Critical. What would switchback do?

[@1000rogueleader]

No, the better RWBY is HunterxHunter. Both series feature four main protagonists who act as a team, both feature characters who are called Hunters/Huntsmen who hunt things, both feature super powers that are powered by something called "Aura". Both feature a young, childlike protagonist. But the difference between the two is night an day.

[@dc7981]

1000rogueleader Sounds more like YYH or JoJo part 4 lmao

[@devinholmes8899]

Can anyone tell me why Ruby is in Blazblue I thought Jaune was the main character.

[@dcb2art]

Right!?

[@JayRedGear]

Exactly

[@jackmanleblanc2518]

I can definitely agree with this. I personally like RWBY's world most out of the three, but in terms of the show itself it's 100% the worst out of the three. That's why I love reading fanfiction for RWBY though. Even though the show has several problems, it still has an interesting and unique world that good fanfiction writers can take advantage of. I'm curious, does anyone else think RWBY would be better if Jaune was the protagonist instead of Ruby? I know lots of people don't like Jaune, but he really is way more developed than her and has actually relatable goals, flaws, and struggle we can all understand and get behind. I might just be biased because he's my favorite character alongside Blake, but still. I really like him and don't buy the self-insert bullshit.

[@arnowisp6244]

Jackman LeBlanc Thats what RWBY is good at right now, giving fanfiction writers good material to work with.

[@toughlion535]

Isn't Jaune treated like the main character anyway? Or at least the prefered character(by the writers/producers/directors) because Ruby is supposed to be the main character(including Weiss, Blake and Yang but yet the show barely lets them have the spotlight despite the show supposed to be mainly focused on these four. Go figure.) yet she also gets the least out of the other characters in terms of development and proper focus... while the show can somehow fit Jaune into any kind of scene with dialogue and lets him take the main role instead of the supporting role. Like he's supposed to. Ruby can't even do anything that doesn't involve small success moments that is usually reserved for side characters. She's not allowed to grow or even shape herself. She's literally just... There.

[@hewnootron2769]

I'm worried he may turn into a naruto clone

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

Jaune's basis is that he is a vessel of potential and that's why we are drawn to him. Large aura, family legacy to live upto, love interest + Ren and Nora makes for a compelling reaction. Ruby herself has the BS plot mcguffin of "Silver Eyes" which seems so forced - even though they have yest to fucking explain it. I don't think we'd like Jaune if he as the MC because he is supposed to the be underdog working his way, in the background. Think of him as Wally from Pokemon, in that he started off weak and timid but then came into his own. It wouldn't work, if he was the MC and has expected greatness or a responsibility of MC because the charm comes from 1.) the surprise that he grew stronger 2.) how badass he now is (especially his ORAS theme).

[@mariobadia4553]

Jaune has 7 other siblings which is already more interesting than Ruby. I can kinda imagine jaunes childhood being somewhat like the cartoon Loud House.

[@pyrosianheir]

Shigaraki will most likely end up being the final boss of MHA. There's some stuff coming up in the next season that set it up so that it doesn't make any sense for any routes /other/ than that. Stain has had... like, one appearance since his first big thing. The other members of the League, while they do get time to develop, aren't up to the task of being the big bad in my opinion (though I'll be surprised if they don't end up being foils for some of Deku's supporting cast, like Toga the crazy schoolgirl being the nemesis for Uraraka). Edit - Yuya actually had some really good stuff in a brief, I think two chapter, development. It was really cool, and made him a REALLY good support character. At least if he's actually allowed to do stuff other than being a background gag character. Though, I suppose that'd be fine, too, given how many characters there are in MHA. XD

[@duwangchew9902]

I've been struggling to put my distaste for RWBY's current state into a coherent train of thought, but as someone who loves both LWA and BNHA, this video helped immensely! You hit the nail on sooooo many points. Great job man, you've earned yourself a sub.

[@CelticPhoenix]

[@metaldragon8632]

So you finally made the connection well that’s good those 2 shows are what RWBY should have been but fate is cruel very, very cruel too cruel in fact (dont remind me of what happened in 2016 all that goddamn delusion because they decided to upscale production,bad memories galore) but if one thing is for sure RWBY has brought together so many people for different reasons and we all wouldn’t be here if the show did not exist oh yeah also reminder that Avatar the last air bender is a thing so yeah just puttin that there But still good on you for this From a RWBY fan to another take care

[@christiangivens8788]

You are in luck Celtic Phoenix, I am a manga reader, and this season will be better than last season!

[@EbonMaster]

As time passes I feel more and more justified in my decision to give up on RWBY and move on to other anime lol.

[@gabaghool]

rwby is beyond saving imo. The inconsistencies are way to deep the even be fixed anymore and even if they do get better the story is going to always be a mess because of those inconsistencies.

[@93ImagineBreaker]

it needs a reboot

[@Frank-ju8qr]

To be honest I have been watching your videos for a few weeks now and I get a greater sense of character developement from you than from the entirety of RWBY. You haven't even changed that much, but I just find out small new details about you and it's already more than low substance money generator that RWBY has become. For what it's worth, the show will be a study on "What not to do" for me

[@Dragonage2ftw]

Don’t listen to this moron and his circlejerk for writing tips. They’re completely moronic individuals.

[@CelticPhoenix]

Or he could hear us out and debate our points with proper evidence and supporting claims like a decent person. That is if he disagrees in the first place. You know, instead of running around insulting people without provocation... :/

[@Frank-ju8qr]

Hello internet person, When I started looking at the show more critically, when the show was taking on a more serious tone, I was frustrated because poor writing was holding it back. I'm watching McNeil's videos because he has far more experience in writing and media analysis. I simply don't want to fall into the many pitfalls the writers of this show fell into. And as long as this man makes good videos with useful information, I will listen to him

[@princeofqrow3181]

Dragonage2ftw oh burn!!!

[@wooltank6877]

I still like RWBY, but I've been seeing a lot of the same problems you have with the show as I grow up with it. It's gotten to the point where it' a "sit down, turn your brain off" kind of show

[@scorchinglizard]

I've never watched RWBY, but I love both My Hero Acadamia and Little Witch Acadamia so I decided to watch this video when I stumbled across it. Is RWBY really that bad?

[@CelticPhoenix]

It had a lot of passion and energy that carried Volumes 1 and 2... but after Monty Oum passed away, 3 was the last outing that felt anything like what he intended. And all that energy that carried the show has been on a steady decline...

[@scorchinglizard]

Celtic Phoenix Productions Really? That's a bit sad...

[@loonylenny]

Monty’s death is very sad and what’s just as sad is that his vision for the show is all but gone. In other words his dream died with him.

[@TheDarioushurt]

no its not that bad

[@vicente8107]

You should watch it and decide for yourself.

[@lanah.3027]

yep, RIP my respect for the creators of RWBY. I really wished they didn't complicate the series so much or at LEAST do a good job at complicating it. so far, not looking good. so much controversy concerning this and I wish it would just stop.....

[@kingarthurpendragon134]

Aura is literally pulled straight from Hunter x Hunter, they didn't even try to change it, Hunter X Hunter managed to have an effective balanced system of power, through one concept alone, RWBY has semblances, aura, Maiden powers, Grimm augmentations apparently for cinder, technologically functioning weapons, dust which can be used as an ammunition, a base element, or actually injected into yourself with a character like hazel and by having all these concepts that have been just thrown around inconsistently the story feels inconsistant in terms of combat in particular because of this because Volume 1 and 2 kept the semblences more or less just as super powers, then Volume 3 introduced maiden powers and explains that no one considers dust or semblences any kind of magic, even though there is nothing scientific about either.

[@WickedWestCreations]

My impression of RWBY whether this is true or not was that it misled you on purpose (like when Monty was mainly writing) Here's what you think is going to be an episodic highschool anime, they dropped hints here and there since the show started of a negative force working in the background that finally made it's debut at the end of season 3. So I always looked at the 3 volumes as a surprise prologue to the actual series and that's probably why volune 4-5 have more of a beginning/middle/end story structure. When you go back and view certain things people said and why the incident involving Mountain Glenn happened it made sense for me in the plot. Like Monty was withholding info on purpose to tell a more compelling story. But idk anymore

[@eldiegollador7271]

I hope things get better for you, man. Great video, btw.

[@ernestocoronado6986]

Watching this video made me watch LWA... And I fucking love it! Thanks man.

[@CelticPhoenix]

This is the kind of comment that makes making these videos worth it in the long run. I love introducing people to new series they might like, and I'm so glad it's getting LWA more attention. You made my day

[@ernestocoronado6986]

I'm almost done with the show and my favorite one so far is when Akko goes to Sucyworld. After watching it though it left me wondering if Sucy was a lesbian since the dragon holds back when Akko leans in for the kiss and the way the scene is displayed with Akko meeting Sucy looks beautiful after the Fisney slapstick comedy routine.

[@metamaster5469]

And it just kept getting worse. Now our 'heroes' are quite possibly among the most morally bankrupt characters I've ever been expected to see as 'heroes'.

[@overhaul.-.]

You’re damn right My Hero Academia is better

[@l_am_a_cookie7055]

Alright jezz calm down

[@93ImagineBreaker]

00:44 if you didn't or one of the major rwby critics eventually someone would. 9:28 felt more like a way to axe him as his role has been fulfilled and/or a convenient way to prevent ruby from being killed by him and neo. I loved the detail they gave superhero life and showed actions have consequences. The consequences part rwby often lacks.

[@thready9277]

RWBYs writing,actions,characters,and Over wall world set up is trash and BNHA (because of You say run and other great qualities) is better than LWA boom done. Also great video you earned my sub!

[@romulusnuma116]

2:27 That joke has aged like fine wine my friend.

[@GoneRampant]

See, this is why I like your stuff and not Fat Man (alongside that you script your videos out, don't ramble and aren't a detestable human being). Much more engaging and actually thought-provoking about RWBY. Like, your bit about Ruby actually made my sit up straight and nod like "... actually yeah, Ruby is severely under-developed."

[@CelticPhoenix]

I'm flattered but I honestly see Fatman as the much better critic. He really bites into the issue and if it weren't for him I'd be zombified like so many others. It probably more comes down to presentation, as I do tend to go easier on it in these kinds of videos (though I think I might be easier to get riled up over it during reactions), but even if it's more biting he's far sharper with tearing back the layers of ridiculous that have been stretched over the show. I'm simply trying to say the same things just in a different way. Maybe with that in mind you'll come to understand him a little more :P

[@BoxyBrown717]

I personally prefer your criticisms, Celtic. Mainly this comes down to the fact that you give both praise and criticism where it's deserved, where as Fatman tends to be more negative focused. Fatman's criticisms tend to be more logic based, but this also leads to him nitpicking details that can really just be glossed over. It's pretty easy to find something that breaks logic in most fictional media, especially anime and anime inspired media. I do enjoy listening to both sides though, and I do find GoneRampant's comment implying Fatman to be a detestable human being to be uncalled for.

[@SwitchbackCh]

Fatman has plenty of valid points and no doubt opened the eyes of many fans, but I feel he can sometimes reach CinemaSins levels of pettiness in some of his criticisms, making him a chore to watch at points because I feel he's not talking out of objectivity any more, but just wants to tear it apart for quick jokes and for the sake of twisting the knife. Plus, I don't think his apporach is healthy for the fandom in the long run. I feel like he just enjoys watching RWBY be torn apart and is not interested in watching it improve, because he simply does not believe RT is even physically capable of it. So I can appreciate his videos for what they are, but I don't like the effect he has on the fandom. He tends to convert RWBY fans into RWBY haters, not more objective RWBY viewers. Like Digibro tearing apart Sword Art Online just so he can rant about it, but because he is analytical by nature there will be facts and good points in that rant. It can be cathartic, but doesn't present solutions for those who love the work.

[@iquestioneverything3426]

How can you not know that ruby is a shallow character ? They mention this shit in their rwby reaction video where hazel revealed his dumb motivation, and even if you don't watch that how can you not realize the main character is bad ? Is giving a shit about the main character just a thing that a minority of people do ?

[@Vinva1]

I only like RWBY's animation, concept and character design and mostly stayed because of it until Vol. 4, I stopped there because things became really messy and maybe a bit ridiculous.

[@stchiao1209]

we and Yoh Yoshinari does not want to offend Akko too much, and must be discerning about her. This year, I hope that TRIGGER will announce the ordering of a free grand exhibition for the 10th anniversary of Little Witch Academia across Taiwan, and will launch a special exhibition for a total of five months as soon as possible. Atsuko kagari would go on to become the mascot of Studios TRIGGER and was featured in their production logo up.

[@yonaga5993]

I don’t even see Ruby as a protag any more.

[@manuelcabeza5527]

I never in my life did I want something til I seen it This will be good

[@mercuryblack]

Only 5 months left until we see how bad vol 6 is going to turn out.

[@Badd111]

TRUST ME the villains in mha get alote better like ALOTE BETTER

[@malikreeves6011]

This is the only MHA related thing I’m watching until the hype dies down. I love this series, but FUCK the hype! I’m already being spammed with videos about Season 3!

[@LJ-hk4tv]

Malik Reeves If you've read the manga you'll know why people are hyped for Season 3.

[@iquestioneverything3426]

Why does the hype matters ?

[@malikreeves6011]

I keep getting spammed with videos about S3 and the movie. I love MHA but I don’t wanna see it 24-7. When people keep obnoxiously shoving things in my face it makes me wanna watch it less.

[@TainoMoya]

Malik Reeves That makes a lot of sense. Who is shoving the show in your face?

[@malikreeves6011]

A couple friends and EVERYWHERE I GO ON THE ON THE INTERNET! Did you know there's already AMVS of episode 1? I didn't until KZbin started recommending them...

[@danielsurvivor1372]

This video didnt age well, MHA has fallen out in terms of quality, still better then RWBY, by a LONG shot, but MHA aint as good as it used to be, so much missed potential

[@bryana.escaleralopez]

Everyone wants Horikoshi to expan the universe more but nope. He went straight into the war arc with literal teens fighting a civil war in place of grown adults.

[@annabella1650]

RWBY’s biggest issue is that they’ve got too many ingredients and enough cooking. Look at Weiss for a great example of this, she’s got glyphs, the dust powered sword and summoning; she seems to have mastered two out of three of these things (glyphs and the sword), with the third being a bit redundant in the face of the other two skills (time dilation has more practical use then a summon that takes that much time to do). If they wanted a mage character, then giving her a sword wasn’t the best idea; duel-classing tends to cut off some more powerful spells, so ditch the summoning. On the bigger scale we have magic, aura and semblance. The term magic shouldn’t exist when the limits of semblance have yet to be explained (why is turning into a bird a big deal), and what we know about auras could fit into a shot glass. We know that magic is linked to Ozpin and Salem, so just cut out the middle man and say that their semblances allow them to change other people’s and call the bird transformation a semblance he added to them.

[@HeroOfJusticeYT]

wouldn't Hunter X Hunter be the better RWBY

[@dcb2art]

I agree.

[@GokaikillerTobi]

Yes despite the hiatus

[@littlemayo7136]

They could have made Ruby way more interesting if they leaned into the fact that she feels like she has to become a Huntress because who the hell else is going to win this fight that her mother was supposed to win but instead she seemingly died on her and now she's the one who has to win this fight and Ruby knows that the world is not a good place and so she wants to actively make it into the fairytale she reads about this is basically Canon is in her theme song All y'all had to do was just bring that s*** up more it's actually way more compelling than the other two because their Idols they have a positive view of them already has a positive view of her mom she still is you know upset about her mother dying on her essentially

[@kana22693]

A more fitting comparison would've been Soul Eater since RWBY obviously ripped that anime off, most of SE's flaws come from the last 1/4th of the anime which was all filler due to the fact that they ran out of manga chapters but everything until that point was fairly well done.

[@gabi1765]

RWBY sucks, MHA is cool for some people, LWA is the best anime and watching it will bring happiness to everyone

[@narasihirara5487]

Character devoletment? A world with dark setting with plot twist? Watch attack on titan. Seriously its awasome. Season 3 is on the way. I recomend to read tokyo ghoul manga too its also awasome. Rwby writers need to look those 2 manga/anime to how to write a main and side characters and how to devolp side characters without taking much screen time.

[@ryokiuzumasa8068]

This is why I read Fanfiction. I'd recommend Re:bound

[@BlueDemonofFire]

For some reason, while I'd heard about My Hero Acedemia, I wasn't really grabbed by it. Partly because I'm feeling fatigue about that kind of hero fighting villain sort of thing with all the Marvel and other comic book related movies. Partly because one of the first antagonists is a schoolyard bully, which has been a pretty big turn off for me since the release of Final Fantasy 8. Whereas RWBY has monsters for our heroes to contend with, team dynamics..oh..wait..that's right. The writers just didn't really use all of the potential they had going for them back in the first three volumes, though it felt with each one that they were learning and getting better. Then volumes 4 hit and now the only RWBY related stuff I can stand is fanfiction. Volume 5 was just downright painful in so many levels, at best just introducing nice characters but not knowing how to use the people they already have. I've never seen or heard of Little Witch though, and your description of it seems pretty promising. I'll give it a shot.

[@iquestioneverything3426]

So you rather stories have one dimensional monsters rather than possibly not one dimensional villain ?

[@BlueDemonofFire]

It's more like when I first saw the Grimm in RWBY my first thought was they were something similar to the Zerg from StarCraft, Darkspawn from Dragon Age, or any other hive mind threat. I've seen and liked stories that pull it off well. Worlds being overwhelmed due to the combination of ferocity and coordination. Unfortunately the Grimm are never really fleshed out despite the fact that our heroes went to a school dedicated to learn how to protect what's left of civilization from them. At best you the kaiju wyvern monster that spawned more enemies, but that was taken down by Ruby learning she's the chosen one. The story wants to claim they're something major but the Grimm just haven't done enough to feel credible and I kind of lost patience with them. I also liked the idea of the main team working together as they went through school, potentially staying a team after they graduate. At the very least the character archetypes could fit reasonably well together and I was expecting they'd become a band of sisters or something. But no, there was very little work done to make it feel like they came together, and when they split apart after Volume 3 I started wondering why Rooster Teeth even bothered titling the series the same initials as their first names. B never seemed to interact much if at all with R, W went from "bred for greatness" and perfectionist to getting along with everyone else too abruptly, and Y had an odd lack of initiative in the team and ended up feeling like one of the most bland hot blooded brawlers I've ever seen. If the four characters who are supposed to be the main team feel less interesting than the side teams, and the monsters only 'look' monstrous, is it really a surprise that the villains feel rather underwhelming?

[@xoqvuz]

High Guardian Spice will probably be a worse RWBY

[@silverkingisley6438]

There's a big problem I've been having since the introduction of 'unlocking' aura that I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention when you brought it up. That being that there is no reason for why every (or at least most) citizens don't have their auras unlocked. True, it is stated that doing so tires out the huntsman who does so but they're had years (well over a hundred if the WOR are to be believed) and no one has done this. Perhaps only having it be people that are part of the police force, army, and whatever passes for a militia so as to not encourage crime but even that we haven't seen from the security is both volumes 2 and 3. Strangely, a fanfic (by cour al'aran if i'm remember right) did something to solve that by saying that aura broadcasted your emotions much more clearly and if you unlocked everyone's aura you would basically have a never-ending tide of grim bearing down on the cities constantly, which would spread fear and result in even more grim. Honestly, just one of two lines worth of an explanation to that effect would be all that is needed (maybe asked by Jaune since he's newer to this than the others) but they haven't provided any form of explanation for it, at least not that I could find.

[@MakiPcr]

So the death of Monty Oum hurt the show, got it.

[@CelticPhoenix]

It goes beyond that, honestly. Even before he died the show was a mess, but after his death, it lost the passion that made it magnetic. Now, with that residual energy falling by the wayside, people are starting to see the problems for what they are...

[@LaNoLaCola]

Samhain is actually pronounced "Sah-wain"

[@CelticPhoenix]

And 'Croix' is pronounced 'Cro-wa' not 'Croy'; sometimes you just grow up preprogrammed and it's too hard to change... :/

[@ProxyDoug]

One other anime I would recommend.when talking about character development would be Land of The Lustrous. Apart from the obvious nod to how much the main character changed around the ending of the first season, every episode you can feel this change taking place and that made it one of the best anime I have ever watched and turned Phos into one of my favorite characters.

[@CelticPhoenix]

I don't think that comparison rings quiet as true for a number of reasons. For one, the setting is nothing like MHA/LWA/RWBY, so I think that generally shoots it in the foot, but second, the tone is completely different, as LotL has had a constant darker angle from day one. Third and foremost, LotL is one of the most gorgeously animated anime of the year if not ever... Like... it's not even *fair*... XD

[@ProxyDoug]

I was refering more to how characters change over the course of the series. I think the comparison serves to point out some flaws in Ruby and Yang's character. Both have Phos' go-get'em personality and the will to fight the creatures that threaten their world, but unlike Phos, Ruby and Yang already start as badasses while Phos is incompetent in every way a person can be. However, Ruby and Yang still go through experiences that should make them evolve as characters and that doesn't really happen.

[@CelticPhoenix]

I think the goals with them are a little different (though there might be more fair comparison with Yang), as Ruby I see as maintaining her plucky attitude despite the woes around her. Maybe a little mellower, but never losing that optimism. LotL though is in a league divergent from MHA/LWA/RWBY. I'd put that more on scale with shows like Steins;Gate or Madoka or Made in Abyss, which are less bouncy, have more grit and grounding.

[@loonylenny]

I like Rooster Teeth’s shows less and less. The writers aren’t focused on developing the main cast of characters, I don’t think their really focused on the story at all anymore. What I believe is that, as cooperation, they are more focused on the money, because it is very popular. Now I believe a cooperation should make money but make a quality product that people want to spend their money on.

[@BigFearedBalloon]

Honestly, the one show they didn't mess up in 2017 was Camp Camp Season 2. Red Vs Blue Season 15 had a great first 7 episodes before falling flat with the rest of it, with bad villains and motivations for actions. RWBY Volume 5 was basically sitting in a room doing nothing for most of the cast (Ilia being the only good living character at this point.... though I don't hate Sun as much as others do), with a finale that came WAY TOO quick. Seriously, no exploring Haven, no training the faunus, barely new info and character deaths that kill off characters that haven't developed yet. A good video I saw was RWBY characters acting stupid for the sake of the plot and I agree with that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHS0poibnKt-rZo Still I do love Dr. Watts being the smart one, only doing what Cinder suggests cause otherwise he would probably get killed by Cinder. (Hope Dr. Watts gets his character develop). Camp Camp as a show, while mainly fun and antics, does well with the few times it does develop characters, and feel more developed at times than RWBY, despite the fact it's main point is a comedy show with dark/cynical humour.

[@SteelandSouls]

I'm really pissed they jacked up Hazel. I was so looking forward to him being awesome and they wasted it

[@notificationgangmember9339]

Sure, I like RWBY...but he's right.

[@EmmanuelMarin07]

I agree with you so much that I am left with only this; It's nice to hear for you again, man! Sorry to have found out that you're going through some stuff but it does get better. :) I really enjoyed this video; thanks a bunch! :D

[@Randomusername262]

I love My Hero Academia (Only read the Manga and watch the anime for fit scenes), I like RWBY (watched since premier), but never got into Little Witch Academia. I have seen the the movies and really didn't like them, and I didn't want to watch the series thinking I won't like it either. Also, I like RWBY but I feel like people over hype the series and make seem better than it is. I think it comes from people seeing it through the lenses that its not produce by an actual animation company, but they still have it ranked among other anime series. I never got to discuss to anyone my feeling about the series since I haven't met many people from the community that watch it. But watching your video really voices what I think of it so far. I still have hope RWBY will sometime be more consistent and not try so hard to be something it is not by taking criticism like this to heart and not just accept the happy comments.

[@justasentientmclarenp1879]

Anything is better then RWBY

[@hiitsalex6780]

#HunterXHunter #DemomSlayer