this is like if gojo was introduced in the culling games and died in 4 chapters
@newalbacore83526 ай бұрын
lol
@oluave22116 ай бұрын
Lmao! Best analogy
@OK-694206 ай бұрын
He kinda did..
@nikagrandtour6 ай бұрын
@@OK-69420
@chidubemanukwu6 ай бұрын
To be fair gojo is more comparable to All Might than Stars and Stripes She is more like kashimo
@brodymargela16296 ай бұрын
I never understood the point of introducing new order it is too dam OP and for it to be used as a plot device and immediately gets tossed and forgotten
@vanjagalovic36216 ай бұрын
She exists to explain why foreign countries and heroes won't help out Japan in their fight with Shigaraki and to show how strong Shigaraki is. She wasn't really meant for anything aside from increasing sales with artificial hype, fanservice and as a plot device. She just stands out because she's poorly handeled
@donrog50356 ай бұрын
@@vanjagalovic3621AFO already said that he had friends oversea in those foreign countries that create some chaos so that foreign hero are too busy to come in Japan. So there was no reason to create SaS.
@felipekane96116 ай бұрын
Just wait till future chapters in the manga
@asta81536 ай бұрын
@@vanjagalovic3621 horrible writing decisions
@deenman236 ай бұрын
wile this was handled poorly,it makes sense there are quirks out there that on their own could be more op than one for all,at the end of the day one for all is just....raw power,plus all the other quirks stored,in that sense its similar to all for one,but....some quirks on their own could be far better,like ochacos gravity power should in theory be able to crush anything,nothing is stronger than gravity,or what if a quirk like gojo's power from jjk existed?
@Proxy6066 ай бұрын
“Are you a blonde, strong, beautiful woman in an anime?” “Yes” “Then by the shonen trope, you must fight and die in your first battle for plot”
@mrmcawesome97466 ай бұрын
Rare Kishimoto W here with Tsunade.
@Daflims6 ай бұрын
yuki fell victim to dat rule too lmao
@unlimited36806 ай бұрын
@@Daflims deadass Yuki, the only female special grade sorcerer, being the strongest woman weve seen so far just dies like that for a special grade. It was disappointing to see after Nobara being wiped out so easily by mahito and the embarassment that was her fight against that blonde dude
@ATILegacy6 ай бұрын
Only Kishimoto overcame this (barely) RIP Yuki, my queen
@haveagoodday70216 ай бұрын
Yuki's death hurt me so bad I made a whole ass character with her powerset so it can get the time it deserves.
@user_miike6 ай бұрын
having her hold off shigaraki in the final war would’ve been 100x better while deku is otw
@Ace-0f-Spadez6 ай бұрын
Not really cause it distracts from the already big cast that barley gets screen time and it gave bakugo one of his best moments same with the big three and edgeshot
@joshuafrazier39046 ай бұрын
I mean those guys could still all get there moments it would just also mean that everyone is actively dying by the time Izuku arrives or hell maybe to further hype Shigaraki since he wouldn’t be nerfed( whatever nerf Star gave him in cannon doesn’t exist) he could still just solo everyone again and if you really want Star dead you can do it here cause she saves everyone in once and dies for it. All our other characters still keep their moments Deku arrived to find ally straightup dead and everyone else caught lacking you get it. Just overall you could make this scenario work if you genuinely tried to without taking away any other characters moments.
@randomd2866 ай бұрын
@@Ace-0f-Spadez Yeah but the problem is that most of the cast is so much lower in power level than stars and stripes. By having her get taken out somewhat easily (or at least quickly) it makes it hard to buy the random first years putting in work. I, for one, don't think every person in the story need "time to shine" in the final arc. The story should have been much tighter. Not every student, most of whom have done jack all beforehand, should have been given so much screen time against one for all. On the other hand, if pros (that didn't teach at UA) were shown contributing it would have given so much more depth to the world. It's fine for the MC to be op at a young age but if literally every first year can pull more weight it just makes the world an incompetent mess.
@ednamodee6 ай бұрын
rightttt that would’ve been a way better call than eliminating her this early
@plantcrone96626 ай бұрын
You do realize that if star is able to work with the heroes, shigaraki and all for one have no chance
@Chris-ph9hi6 ай бұрын
He brought in Star to solve an issue that didn't exist until he decided it existed.
@donrog50356 ай бұрын
Exactly. Why did he do that ?
@joshuastoute75696 ай бұрын
To introduce a problem to be solved later on that's still affecting the story to this day* but yeah sure
@Sappysappster6 ай бұрын
Why would Horikoshi do that? Is he stupid?
@grantgarbour6 ай бұрын
@joshuastoute7569 Horikoshi created the time limit then used Star to extend the time limit when he legit could have just made the time limit *longer* the problem could have been introduced without star by just making shiggy's completion slower
@t.j.15846 ай бұрын
@@grantgarbour That’s literally all he had to do.
@Grayson-Winchester6 ай бұрын
Star and Stripes is so op that she needed to be banned from the story. There was no word of her before or afterwards. There should have been overseas villains that ally with Shigaraki. This is where people say that Horikoshi kinda failed with his world building. We’ve always only been in Japan and don’t even know the symbol of peace of Europe, Great Britain or Russia
@cloudbloom6 ай бұрын
Antarctica symbol of peace when
@anthonymorenosorto27436 ай бұрын
She didn’t need to be that op, it would have been so easy to just think of a different quirk for her
@dreamergamer92916 ай бұрын
@@anthonymorenosorto2743 why not just an energy based quirk? like she could use energy blasts to fly and also would nt need to use melee because she d rather be ranged.
@jasonblack24776 ай бұрын
She was in the finale lol😂
@robertrivera55696 ай бұрын
The answers All Might, he's the symbol of peace period. If America, the birtplace of heroes, holds him as the number 1, then that should speak volumes his impact throughout other countries in the Hero profession.
@Froggyquack6 ай бұрын
The first fight bettwe Star and Shigaraki should end as a draw. Shigaraki was incomplete anyway, so let him escape the fight because of the injuries. Then just let Star and Stripe hang around with Deku and All Might. Then at the final battle she sacrifiece herself in order to weakening the complete shigaraki. And then Deku got the chance to kill him.
@ancientking2246 ай бұрын
While I know Stars and Stripes couldn't have been allowed to beat Shigaraki, I would've prefered a stalemate with her survival to serve as a deterent that Shigaraki needs to take OFA before thinking the other countries we're an easy lick.
@gaming1zanagi-19996 ай бұрын
Yeah. That and be an inspiration to Deku to keep going or basically give a new order on OFA after meeting Deku before pushing on to her ends. That way not only Deku is being even more motivated but also he can finally beat Shiggy with the power ups that Star give to his OFA quirk
@broskydoodle66976 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the incident with star and stripe was the moment I actually, genuinely was worried for the story of mha. There were flaws before, but this was such a baffling writing decision, on so many fronts, that I had to take a pause on the manga. it was also the precursor to what would eventually become the greatest flaws in mha. It was also a massive missed opportunity on Horikoshi's part to tie in the wider world of my hero academia to the story, but given how he's dealing with things now, idk if that would even work out anyways. Still confuses me to this day.
@gaming1zanagi-19996 ай бұрын
Yeah. Atp I am genuinely feel that Shiggy just gonna be another Madara or Otsusuki clans
@NinthShinigami6 ай бұрын
Nothing worse than a character with much potential both for the series and power/ability wise to be written off quick. I freaking adore My Hero Academia (blasphemy, I know) but Horikoshi has fumbled the ball a few times, and this was one of them for sure.
@Chris-ph9hi6 ай бұрын
That is indeed blasphemy. (Jkjk)
@anyonesomeoneeveryone6 ай бұрын
a few? How about deku avoiding consequences every single time
@jebalitabb82283 ай бұрын
@@anyonesomeoneeveryoneconsequences aren’t real, it’s fine he doesn’t get any. If you think they are, I can list a thousand examples of people who can easily avoid them irl 😃
@anyonesomeoneeveryone3 ай бұрын
@@jebalitabb8228Yes they are, and that’s not a good argument. Just because some people can evade them irl, doesn’t mean they now no longer exist and everyone else can. That’s association fallacy, just because both situations involve consequences does not mean they are the same thing.
@jebalitabb82283 ай бұрын
@@anyonesomeoneeveryone buzzwords 🥱
@anthonydeadman4 ай бұрын
It's amazing how he wrote one of the most amazing and badass looking female characters with the most insane abilities and quirks just to kill her off so quickly....and in the long run, for nothing to boot.
@kampa89496 ай бұрын
It also doesn’t help that Shigaraki’s completion was a completely arbitrary timeframe set by Hori, meaning he could’ve just given the heroes the same amount of time to prep without even needing to write Star into the story. So even her supposedly biggest contribution to the plot was something that could have easily happened without her.
@atpr32416 ай бұрын
Exactly. There were a million different ways Horikoshi could've made Star have a tangible impact on the narrative but going the "she delayed Shigaraki for two weeks" was abysmal given Star's supposed status rivaling All-Might...
@donrog50356 ай бұрын
Facts.
@Koopa.20006 ай бұрын
I mean with that logic everithing else could be wroted differently but it wouldnt be fun if everithing goes as the heroes want right?
@TY-wi1xl6 ай бұрын
Thats not her biggest contribution, but the reason she was written in was to set the standard for the final arc as to what effort and teamwork it takes to face the villains while showing that strength alone wasn't gonna cut it if they wanted to beat the villains. I don't like how detractors think that a character's only value to a story is how much they did instead of what they represent.
@Garvant_6 ай бұрын
8:30 bro described every jjk character introduced post shibuya 💀
@officialknuckle44335 ай бұрын
Facts
@TheVegetaover90006 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, if Jiraiya’s character was reduced to that fight alone, it still impacts the story more than Stars n Stripes. With his death, the heroes learned of Peins abilities and group, figured out he was being controlled by Nagato, and led to Naruto learning Sage Mode from the toads. It’s obviously still better that we got to learn about and watch Jiraiya for a long time, this was just a fun observation that came to my head
@crocoboi79366 ай бұрын
Facts honestly in my opinion jiraya’s death is one of the best handled deaths In anime.
@Koopa.20006 ай бұрын
With sns they studied better how his regen works, at what level he is now, that he has personalities problems and that he lost some quirks too, its literally the same thing, plus sns gived them time to build the fortress for him and to study a strategy in order to divide the villains and gain thr upper hand
@Chillcat5846 ай бұрын
@@crocoboi7936 at least we get to spend time with him in boruto when he goes into the past to see kid naruto with sasuke
@TheRealCaptainGold5 ай бұрын
Her quirk was too strong to keep her alive - that was the real mistake that got Horikoshi stuck. She literally almost bodied Shiggy and his pet Nomu by herself, with some assistance from jet-fighters, and only failed to one-tap him because he had an identity crisis. If Hori kept her alive after the fight, it'd remove all tension from the story. Deku + Stars vs AFO is a cake walk for the heroes. (Which is why AFO had Shiggy attack her before she could join the Heroes) And if he took her quirk, it'd be hard for the heroes to win without some plot-ass-pull that would ruin the story. She had to die. The quirk was too powerful - that was the key mistake. Every other problem could've been fixed, but New Order just ruins those options.
@SpeakHerMusic6 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said and i also want to add that it kinda makes the scaling even more wonky when shes supposed to be the closest thing to all might and therefore above almost all others but gets worked by an incomplete shigi then complete shiggy says he essentially is all might level without his quirks and we know afo is relative to all might and yet we watch damn near the entire cast compete with one or both of them. Making mad people relative to her and very close to all might comparatively
@JakeMatthews-OnLo6 ай бұрын
I still remembered when KZbinrs who didn’t cover my hero like Tekking came out to talk about this character just for her to die not too long after.
@Sailable6 ай бұрын
Literally the exact same things he brings up in this video apply to Yuki Tsukumo
@S-fp7uz6 ай бұрын
Yeah they are both wasted in similar ways, he would probably agree.
@Ukzgamer16 ай бұрын
Star & stripes is more similar to Kashimo both hyped up a lot only to do nothing and just get killed in a disappointing way. Yuki was never hyped up she’s an irrelevant character but atleast she’s not an irrelevant character who was extremely hyped up
@nathankeel66676 ай бұрын
im not going to say yuki's death wasnt a massive wast of potential because it was it was just one of those things that had to happen but at least unlike star she mattered more then to the plot prior to her death and wasnt just introduced to show off how strong the main villian is and why other countries havent helped
@WillofD186 ай бұрын
Yuki had been built/hyped up since season 1(not counting the mention of 4 special grades in chapter 0) and her research into souls & ce has helped Yuji develop. Even Choso got some development because of her so what the hell are talking about
@NousagiCaptain6 ай бұрын
@@Ukzgamer1 Insane take, Yuki wasnt hyped up? Was irrelevant??? Dude shes one of the Extreeeeemely rare special grade sorcerers in the world. She is also the one that discovered and brought in Todou to Kyoto. A SUPER powerful Sorceror for his peer group. And shes the one that impacted Getos switch or resolve in his mentality. Her story arc was DIRECTLY opposing Kenjaku’s plan for humanity. And had a dialogue with Kenjaku to set up or indicate she had research and progress to her goal. Not to mention having a power with the ability to create BLACKHOLES. Thats a limitless level Curse technique if written properly Lol And what does Gege do? He doesnt even let us see her Domain Expansion, or any real creative use of her power. And basically one shots her, and then sacrifices her. And dumps her entire plotline for removing curses from the world.
@gaming1zanagi-19996 ай бұрын
Star would've wiped Shiggy on the spot and yet somehow Shiggy's plot armour is too strong that him getting pierced through the stomach by a hardened gigantic lightning do nothing
@austinblack79915 ай бұрын
Actually in the final battle she comes back as a vestige
@Cloudz34685 ай бұрын
True, I saw that. I hope we get to see more, probably not 😢
@bustercannon60886 ай бұрын
Honestly tho, he could have killed All might gracefully and have Star be the one to take over his mantle to guide deku
@wojciechwerner87876 ай бұрын
Then we wouldn't have awsamnes that is Armor Might fight.
@hasturxix6 ай бұрын
My Hero Academia really fell off as a series. It doesn't feel like there are any stakes since all the characters we've grown to care about never really have to deal with any consequences be personal or environmental.
@PapaTraffy6 ай бұрын
My only defense for Star is that none of the series focuses on heroes outside of Japan UNLESS you read vigilantes. Because she's a character that lacks focus in the narrative, I think that makes it okay that she has such a small role even though she's hyped up so much. She's meant to resemble the threat that Shigiraki now brings to the series. It's the worf effect.
@lanzcordero21324 ай бұрын
The reflect being gone is somehow impactful too. And we dont know the exact quirks that were erased, so he might be cooking on that Idunno
@hitokirij6 ай бұрын
Man I wish we got to see a lot more of Star and Stripe or at least have All Might have seen her as a hero for that to come full circle. She got the Rengoku treatment but didn’t stay nearly as long
@okidoxb48468 күн бұрын
The thing thats really frustrating is that...they gave Shiggy a BS cheat code to the fight, instead of making him prepare or work for it during the fight; he gets a FREE counter out of the blue for no reason, thats just coincidentally happens to be the perfect counter with no set up and no pay off for it later on. its like the fight was written purely to worf from the jump.
@marquiseemthembuu9976 ай бұрын
Shes Nail (DBZ). Think about it. 1. Was recognized by their peers as the most powerful of their group. 2. Fights and loses against main antagonist. 3. Ultimately buys enough time for the main cast to complete their goal. Super Kami Guru would approve.
@mr.protagonist56396 ай бұрын
Except even Nail had more impact since he also powers up piccolo.
@siddhantchauhan19756 ай бұрын
wonder if you will make a video about yuki because I feel kinda similar about her use in jjk. heck we didn't see todo react to his mentor at all
@danielenglish2355 ай бұрын
The same thing can be said about Crust (a man) Although he saved someone who gave a slight advent In the fight The outcome was still the same It just lightened the load a bit And that's the same with her death
@inkkid3766 ай бұрын
Here's a debate. Who screwed out of a win more might guy or stars n stripes.
@CreativeWM_Personal6 ай бұрын
In the latest chapter, AFOs hand is bleeding which suggests that there is some permanent damage done to shigarakis quirk factor and it did awaken Tenko from within. Seeding the need to be saved and AFO has been in shown to lose control of his quirks when Jiro blasted him with her sound wave
@RandomGirl7853 ай бұрын
I agree with you and also if we’re gonna have someone with a quirk this powerful wouldn’t it be better to introduce Star before the war arc? But NOO, her presence would be too much for the plot.
@drsh17116 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the cursed tool Kamutoke introduction in JKK. It was introduced just to prevent Higuruma from confiscating Sukuna's shrine when Gege could have him confiscate 10S instead
@Kill_em_quick6 ай бұрын
10S is Megumi's CT not Sukuna's.
@austinblack79915 ай бұрын
In my head cannon star survives but is badly injured and can’t be in the final battle
@astrocade95416 ай бұрын
Ppl were mad about spoilers but I was happy I got to avoid this whole thing 😂
@Mushpire2 ай бұрын
I remember akame ga kill had a character like this in Budoh, a general so strong he rivals Esdeath and even is one of the few characters she respects genuinely. He is hyped up to be one of the biggest major challenge for nightraid for a good chunk of the series... and He dies like a bitch in both the anime and manga (at least he takes someone with him in the anime)... So what did we learn? ITS A BAD THING WHEN YOU'RE STORY IS BEING COMPARED TO AKAME'S
@Fluminox-6 ай бұрын
JJK Major manga spoilers I had the exact same reaction to Star's death as Yuki's death. Yet another genuinely wasted character. She was done so dirty
@rinnerebirth11716 ай бұрын
Strong female characters are usually wasted
@hoohah50676 ай бұрын
Another star character too...
@chestermops37326 ай бұрын
Some characters are meant to be just killed, and I didnt see any potential in Yuki as character to begin with, yall are simping too hard
@yadafty76716 ай бұрын
@@chestermops3732 Even the author disagrees with you lol. Yuki is the most knoledgable character on the soul and CE out of the main cast. Gege realised he needed someone to give this info to yuji so he could power up yuji but he realised he killed Yuki so this is now impossible. So out of nowhere Choso just says, "oh yeah here's this book that Yuki wrote all about the soul, dont question the fact that this has never been brought up". Given how much soul stuff is currently going on in the series, it wouldve made wayyyyy more sense to have Yuki be alive so she can teach Yuji and Ui Ui about the soul since they use the soul so much now. Tengen couldve just sent Choso and Yuki away since beating kenjaku is now a lost cause. Tengen already showed he can do this when he sent Choso away. Plus kenjaku would just take tengen and go, he doesnt care about yuki and choso. Just have Yuki sustain a permanent injury to the brain or something that prevents her from fighting, something like Angel
@Fluminox-6 ай бұрын
@@chestermops3732 special grade, reverse cursed technique, domain expansion, simple domain, her own shikigami, said to have planet threatening powers, star plasma vessel? And nobody said anything about simping 💀👎🏿
@LurkingLeviathan6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this to be in the anime for so long. The pain and disappointment and anger I felt from this in the manga was unreal. She became my favorite character in a handful of panels.... so frustrating
@ivanpatata32336 ай бұрын
It would be really cool to see you compare current Yuji with all cursed spirits like you did with maki or other characters
@jjack31366 ай бұрын
Star is Yuki with even worse execution
@redhotchikapepr89786 ай бұрын
I think this highlights what very well might be my single biggest issue with a lot of modern Shonnen. It feels like authors try to speedrun through meaningful character development in favor of just getting to the next cool moment, and MHA seems to be heading down that direction ever since they revealed All For One took over the far more interesting villain Shigiraki
@remuvs5 ай бұрын
It really is a shame that Horikoshi only used her to bail himself out after writing himself into a corner; making Shigaraki’s completion time too short and Shigaraki simply being too strong for the heroes to fight since Shigaraki could have any arbitrary number of quirks stored. I understand the decision to nerf him, but this was not the way. I would have loved to see more of her. She had a cool power and as the top dog of America’s heroes, you’d expect a little more than what we got.
@TrentonDoucette6 ай бұрын
I liked her because she wasn’t a “good looser” like I thought she was gonna be. Aka a character designed to be strong but is just made to show how much more powerful the antagonist is compared to the hero at that moment in time. I hope the anime can at least be a fraction as hype as she was in the manga.
@rennenb6 ай бұрын
Having Star fight with Deku would have been great because we would have had gotten to see Star fight along side Deku and the 2 students of All Might going crazy together
@Bragglord6 ай бұрын
Hori really dropped the ball with the final arc (everything after the Rogue Deku sub arc). Don't get me wrong, there have been some good bits, but on the whole? Bloated, contrived, and even boring in many parts. (I'm saying this as someone who is up to date with the manga)
@legoindianajones43586 ай бұрын
i truly believe that if s&s never existed, nothing would actually change
@TheWcasey6 ай бұрын
I feel like a lot of this could apply to Yuki Tsukumo and to a less extent Hana Kurusu. Yuki could have been an amazing character if we got more of her as a character and fighter but we got 1 fight with her where it feel like her real contribution to everything is her book and for Choso development. Hana might still redeem herself (you know the major fumble) but recently we've seen Angle's CT being utilized but her being relegated a background character immediately after her job was done. She must be doing something but until were shown it I can't say either were used well being pushing the plot and being used to develop other's character.
@Epsonea_4826 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, the whole quirk explanation felt like a yap session both in manga and anime. Like obviously JJK has it too sometimes, but star and her abilities weren't built up for payoff on what her abilities did. I'd either add her much sooner, or give her a different quirk that seems more suited for the verse. Air Manipulation maybe? Idk
@MrLeothekingofkings6 ай бұрын
With the way star use her quirk the ability to manipulate all gases would of been an easy switch. Her quirk is super busted but yet she does nothing really special with it until she kills shigs other quirks
@Nephalem20026 ай бұрын
Well JJK is just bad
@wojciechwerner87876 ай бұрын
I agree with your criticism but all of this is for me secondary to how out of place New Order power is in compression top other quirks. It simply doesn't fit to the setting in my opinion.
@JDWalker4956 ай бұрын
Why not have her be in the world hero mission. Wouldve been perfect
@ZKEEK4 ай бұрын
Stopped watching after I saw the episode. Was bored the entire time and her dying just left me confused caused she did nothing important. She got there ,injured him,then died with a boring backstory. I had high expectations after season 5 just to watch mid taking time I will never get back. Mid academia
@मृदुलशर्मा3 ай бұрын
This was done so bad that even I am having doubts on continuing. Hypes up a character to such a degree and then they die in their first appearance, its so dumb.
@yeagerfolk7964 ай бұрын
She is the only one in the series with METAPHYSICAL powers and gets jobbed so easily. If the writer made her utilize her powers properly she would have ended the series right then and there.
@liamsanimationstudio6 ай бұрын
Stars N Stripes seems to actually have been planned much sooner than the manga would have you believe, but you'd only know that by watching A MOVIE WHO'S CANONICTY IS QUESTIONABLE. In MHA Two Heroes, we actually get to see when All Might saved a young Stars N Stripes, but ONLY in the beginning. Meaning we have like 4 chapters plus 20 ish minutes of a movie dedicated to her before Shigaraki kills her 💀
@PoIarisPrime6 ай бұрын
The movies have been confirmed to be canon since years now dawg
@sargentuniverse22546 ай бұрын
It was such mess how he handled her, STAR DESIGN WAS PEAK!
@ricardator10236 ай бұрын
wait ... we need a star and stripes spin off! owo pls do it horikoshiiiii
@President_Shin6 ай бұрын
Just like Meerus in the Moro arc, I gave zero F’s.
@22thedon906 ай бұрын
Her and Yuki had the same problem, two cool as characters who had one fight against a major antagonist and died in that fight
@Sjono6 ай бұрын
What’s most jarring is that after Tomura escapes UA and Aizawa’s erasure starts fighting Deku he hardly uses any of his other Quirks. They should’ve stated that his other quirks were still damaged by S&S more than AfO thought
@adora_burst81436 ай бұрын
Amazing video would love a video like this for JJK. Whether you think it should be done on Yuki, Kashimo, or Kenjaku is up to you.
@quentinreeb90126 ай бұрын
It's definitely flawed on paper, but I somehow never had an issue with the star and stripe mini arc. I think the best thing to do would have been just not to introduce her into the story at all because extending her role in the story beyond her fight with Shigaraki would have been tedious imo. But for what it was, I actually enjoyed the fight!
@justinhigginbottom86686 ай бұрын
We should have had an arc before this. Agter the first paranormal war arc, have deku be shipped to america to train away from afo. Train alongside SnS and have there plan be to have deku and SnS tag team shigiraki only for to inevitably have deku leave, leading into the villain hunt arc. This would push the characterization of deku pushing others away to try and carry everything on his own shoulders. And have dire consequences for this behavior. Than have SnS come to japan like she does, and lose/die. This would help with the heal turn deku has realizing he needs to help others and recieve help from others. And make her death more tragic as not only would we know her longer. But her death would impact deku greatly, in the same way all mights retirement impacted bakugo, and parallel the relationship between baku and deku leading to there apology being more impactful. Finally her final order about new order resisting afo should have been mlre impactful, and finally her quirk should have accepted deku, having him also wield new order in the final battle alongside ofa and the residuals
@stevensimon67476 ай бұрын
I say this all the time about Rengoku’s death bt everyone wants to act like it’s the most impactful moment ever. Dude was here and dead during his introduction. I didn’t know him long enough to care
@RazedFire3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is that she fights shigaraki and stalls him for like, 2 weeks. All might makes AFO Mr.Potatohead and forces AFO to recover for years, YEARS. Shigaraki needed a few weeks and didn't have any permanent damage, AFO did. You can't hype someone to All Mights level then have them get deleted and not even damge the villain much.
@thealmightypuht.a.p.6 ай бұрын
Star & Stripe is one of the biggest wastes of potential characters I have seen in Modern Shonun. Such a huge fumble
@jmonie026 ай бұрын
I am glad I am not the only one who thought this. I was so excited to see her character and then womp. f this dude.
@comicalcosmonaut9595 ай бұрын
It's no exaggeration to me that this is the worst part of Horikoshi’s writing
@phoebeoapollonio95694 ай бұрын
Could've let her disintegrate not too fast and have Tomura return the quirk to her as a way to save himself and let Miss Cathleen Bate hospitalized rather than killing off her character altogether.
@Lunaspapa6 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you write yourself into a corner by giving a character a rushed and completely insane power boost without any sort of build up. Gege did it right. He set the pre-requisites for Maki, and executed it amazingly. And even then she still wasn't fully realized until later, and once she was, the payoff was satisfying and hype as fuck. Shiggy deserved better.
@xebec9956 ай бұрын
Another yuki
@user_miike6 ай бұрын
the original yuki
@lilmatty24666 ай бұрын
More like Kashimo because Yuki was never hyped up to be that big besides being a special grade.
@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness6 ай бұрын
@@lilmatty2466I think Kashimo served his purpose very well. He shows the characteristics of why he was the strongest of his era, we get to see his personality through his fight with Hakari and his spectating of Gojo vs Sukuna, and we see why his technique was a one use (and I think at least) it was quite an impressive technique. Kenjaku saw him fight and directly said that the curse user he’d call the strongest was still easily Sukuna. (I think he said “It’s Sukuna, sorry but there’s no question” or something close to that). That made it clear that regardless of him going all out would result in his defeat.
@lilmatty24666 ай бұрын
@@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness Yeah I see your point. One thing I really hate about Kashimo's fight with Sukuna is that Kashimo immediately gets speed blitz. I get that the scene was about Sukuna teaching Kashimo a lesson and showing his power, but come on at least make 'The Thunder God' be able to keep up with Sukuna. Don't get me wrong getting speed blitz by Sukuna is by no means an anti-feat, but Kashimo was 'The Strongest of His Era'. Also we don't see him having a domain expansion at all. All he has is hollow wicker basket which unlike simple domain needs two hands to do which severely limits Kashimo since he is a close range physical fighter all the opponent has to do is disrupt his hand sign to instantly kill him. Kashimo could potentially run away till they drop their domain, but not only is that just out of character for Kashimo, but any sorcerers besides Hakari and Higuruma with a domain never immediately open their domain to start a fight they usually like to figure out their opponents abilities or see if they could beat them without resorting to use curse energy draining domains which means they have to at least be able to somewhat keep up with Kashimo on top of the physical amplifications their domains give them.
@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness6 ай бұрын
@@lilmatty2466 I do have to agree that never seeing Yuki and Kashimo’s domains (assuming Kashimo had one) is a big negative. Him having Hollow Wicker Basket is likely just a product of his time period. I’m pretty sure New Shadow Style: Simple Domain wasn’t a thing back then. But him having a domain that, say, used a sure hit to alter the electricity in his opponents body would have been cool as shit. Maybe have him snatch the Kamutoke and run rampant with it would be nice too.
@WeebGuru66 ай бұрын
She got the yuki treatment 😂
@skullknight14656 ай бұрын
Technically Yuki got the star treatment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Tainted_Human5 ай бұрын
Even then Yuki was fair better off, she has way more of a presence 💀
@Nephalem20026 ай бұрын
Her fight with Shigaraki in my personal opinion, completely derailed MHA and ruined the rest of the story.
@vastoking34196 ай бұрын
Forget Sukuna or Megumi being Frauds, SHE IS THE TRUE FRAUDULENT ONE!!! Imagine, upon how busted her quirk was...
@youderpy27956 ай бұрын
I’m a defender of Star and Stripes 100%. I was fine with her pushing the narrative of MHA with protecting the next Generation. But with you bringing up the Jiraiya comparison I see what your perspective is. After thinking about it more Hori could have had her kill off the decay quirk later on which would have led to Shigaraki being weak enough for AFO to make his big reveal and take over Shigaraki’s body completely like in the manga.
@scottvgamer11636 ай бұрын
She would have had to destroy Shigaraki’s vestige to get rid of decay, and AFO needs him in order to steal OFA.
@newalbacore83526 ай бұрын
I think theres a point that everyone is missing, star acted as a way to show why no one was getting involved in this big disaster in japan. we already know they were trying to dispatch foreign heroes, and i think this was what he used as the catalyst to ensure there was no interference in the final arc. That way he could focus on the characters that mattered most in the story.
@herothinker48466 ай бұрын
Finally someone narratively understands Star & Stripe's role and no (anticipating counter argument) AFO saying he has allies around the world that could make each country to focus on itself didnt stop the process of heroes trying to be dispatched in the first place and it didnt stop more independent minded heroes like Star & Stripe. Star & Stripe was used to put the nail on the coffin in terms of further and more concretely deterring foreign nations from interefering in the war. Also what AFO said about having allies around the world that could stir trouble was never a guarantee that countries would remain neutral but hey guess what would halt these nations with no second thought? The top hero of America dying to a threat who wasnt even at 100% yet.
@NrgBuster6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it make MORE sense to send aid to neutralize the major threat if they'd just killed your most powerful asset? America didn't get spooked when Japanese fighter pilots kamikazi'd Pearl Harbor. They retaliated with full force. Things would have gone radically different if suddenly an entire country 10 times the size of Japan sent their top heroes to end Shiggy. Whatever ploy AFO could muster in the US could only occupy so much time and energy since all his efforts were focused in Japan.
@newalbacore83526 ай бұрын
@@NrgBuster if your op quirk wielding hero who is the strongest hero in the world post all might got one shotted by a foreign country wouldn’t you be afraid and withdraw your heroes to save them? How are a bunch of weaker hero’s supposed to beat them when the strongest couldn’t? I would be afraid too, that’s a completely diff scenario with Pearl Harbor. That’s more like if shiggy came to the us and killed star and left, ofc they would retaliate then. But no, star came to him, this is different
@KallenScarlet6 ай бұрын
@@NrgBuster Consider the fact that Shigaraki can steal powers, and the only reason he lost to SaS is because she could booby trap her quirk. The idea of sending your biggest strongest heroes to the fight suddenly sounds a whole lot less appealing.
@ForeverSociety6 ай бұрын
There seems to be a trend of writers wanting to make subversive and compelling women characters that get built up but lack longevity in their respective series
@AnimeXplained106 ай бұрын
The worst thing about it is the way she got taken out: the “Shigaraki didn’t know if he was all for one or not” Is a major asspull and is worse than any Sukuna has pulled
@Koopa.20006 ай бұрын
It was foreshadowed 3 arcs prior, you simply couldnt read
@AnimeXplained106 ай бұрын
@@Koopa.2000 I could, it’s still Bullshit, and also, I write books, so I can very much read
@PoIarisPrime6 ай бұрын
@@AnimeXplained10 nah bro that was foreshadowed for ages don't cope
@Koopa.20006 ай бұрын
@@AnimeXplained10 the fact you write books doesnt mean your good at it, I draw comics so I could say the same, its indeed not bs, again you didnt read
@AnimeXplained106 ай бұрын
@@Koopa.2000 you phrased it as “couldn’t” which means an inability to, so your saying I’m unable to read
@Uhhhi-ih8bb6 ай бұрын
I like how 0:17 implies Shigaraki became the strongest women in America. Usurp definition: take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force.
@kingxjuju1336 ай бұрын
I also think it’s the hero’s who disappointed they had a week or 2 to attack shigraki
@edwinjusto57393 ай бұрын
I dont think you actually understood the sheer power, cuz literally not that much later we see just how many heroes which is a team of all of them it takes to contain and fight with that version of shigaraki, the one that was weakened by his fight with her and she basically did better holding him off mostly by herself, that is a huge compliment to just how beyond broken star and stripes was, cuz just imagine what they could have done if it wasn’t just her and her pilots fighting shigaraki but literally all the other heroes that came to fight him later, shigaraki very easily could have lost as she would have had the backup of so many heroes, plus her quirk did in fact weakened shigaraki and substantially too, his regen abilities were severely impacted, prior to her invasion he casually took multiple missiles directly and was constantly taking lazors like nothing, so her power and quirk was a beyond broken power and one that was very justified in all for ones scared precautions, a team of all the best japan had left could barely hold shigaraki off that includes eraser head constantly trying to neg his powers in addition to the copy guy doing the same Within the show Stars and Stripes is easily top 5 quirk users
@मृदुलशर्मा3 ай бұрын
it was so stupid. They introduced a superhero who was coming from Usa, created all the hype around her and then she died in her first fight just like that😂. Her character deserved more and man it was done very poorly.
@joy4themightydonutchainsaw6206 ай бұрын
7:07 If she had destroyed decay that would make me and a lot more people upset.
@BiggieCrescent6 ай бұрын
The Yuki Tsukumo of My Hero 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
@aghoghoedafemuoke87926 ай бұрын
Star and Stripes happened farrrr before Yuki
@joshuavasquez92986 ай бұрын
The writer for mha is a total sell out. They built up such a good story to begin then just started absolutely butchering it
@mekhimcdaniel29946 ай бұрын
I agree with your points but horikoshi made her character as someone who represented america and wanted to express america as a strong country in that way. thats why she has such an op quirk. still at the end of the day she lost and shigi won cuz shigaraki didnt know who he was. he was technically and quite literally 3 people 😭
@TheMissingLink25 ай бұрын
But that's just a contrive plot convince....... "She has to name a person and they have to be cognitively aware that they are named. Lucky for me I'm actually 3 people at once!! So even if she calls out All for One or Shigi, I can still be another person!!" Like come on.... That is dogshit writing.....
@davidvasquez74386 ай бұрын
She’s like the kashimo of mha, op asf but fought people who were too op for them 😭
@NerdMiGerd6 ай бұрын
I just sucks so much because you know all the issues surrounding the way she was written comes down to what this entire final stretch of the series has been kneecapped by- Horikoshi’s current poor health from being forced to churn these fuckin chapters out even when he’s too bedridden to even write full-length chapters under his current deadline. It sucks so much to see but I really don’t blame him for hitting fuck it mode and speedrunning the finale worse than Game of Thrones did. Dude just wants to rest at this point.
@DanTheMagic8Ball6 ай бұрын
imo, Star is an example of the US throwing overwhelming force at their problems even when more nuance is needed for the problem presented, as well as a way to show that All Might's influence, while inspirational, will push heroes to their graves. You see the same thing in Deku thru the whole series. Self-sacrifice is where prodigies of All Might land at because he left such an imposing presence in the hero society, and to try and fill his big ass shoes is an even bigger ask. Star feels like what Deku would have ended up as if he didn't have Nighteye and Eraser in his ear saying, "Maybe don't blow up your arms to catch a villian."
@Tessodan6 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight >Blonde >Introduced into the story with barely any screentime >Likeable personality >Overpowered ability >Insanely powerful >Popular >Dies in her first real fight Man if I had a nickel for every time that's happened in a shonen series I'd have 2! Isn't that right Yuki Tsukumo
@aghoghoedafemuoke87926 ай бұрын
her and Yuki are like the poster children when it comes to powerful character introduced to make the villain more powerful. I’ll probably say Yuki is worse tho. Also always wanted another MHA video but man def not like this lol
@ricardator10236 ай бұрын
stars participation would have been way stronger if she actually reached the heroes, i would understand if she were defeated by all for one using a proper plan since she is on all mights lvl, and her death would have been way more emotionally impactfull, regardless the story overall is going good
@everardoluna97766 ай бұрын
She is the Radditz of the MHA universe
@twicejaeger69976 ай бұрын
8:08 the very start of the arc had the heroes worried about the timeline for the fight with shigaraki being too early, the arc is addressing a problem that the arc itself made up so SNS could impact the plot, it feels very artificial
@shayanmanteghi56623 ай бұрын
I bet all of my money if Horikoshi replaced Star and Stripe with an expy of Tal'Set from Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, he would have joined the final battle against All For One and he would have been alive and well afterwards!
@mills26396 ай бұрын
Honestly if All For one/Shigaraki lost their op quirks like regeneration and more it would make Stars impact much bigger. Heck my main problem with My Hero is the All For One quirk itself since we don’t know many of AFOs quirks that have been stored up and thus when we thought Stars did some major damage we come to find out that AFO only lost some inconsequential quirks which was pure bs to me, Regeneration should’ve been destroyed with Stars and that’s a fact.
@scottvgamer11636 ай бұрын
Well, the regen quirk actually was damaged, but he just stole an undamaged one from a Nomu.
@nathan...80576 ай бұрын
We should get a star and stripe movie
@thegamersheadquarters10206 ай бұрын
I personally feel like she could have won if they didn't shoot him while in the vacuum.
@prynce.6 ай бұрын
1:52 Aye why'd you show the zero division 😭 they were hinted at as early as chapter 47 & in the Turn Back The Pendulum.
@MarkITEXE6 ай бұрын
Hey Ronin, I loved hearing your opinions on Star and Stripes and I have a Quick question for you, can you do a study of Hikaru Kamiki from Oshi no Ko please. I actually LOVE him as a character. But I’m interested to hear your opinions about him as of right now with the Oshi no Ko Manga.
@kameronbailey69396 ай бұрын
It's funny how people are mad that an OP character got one shot. Goes to show that lbh some people only cared about Star for power scaling purposes. And I wil stick by that.
@conradaster37646 ай бұрын
After MVA I feel like this franchise drove off a CLIFF.
@chideraumejiaku38956 ай бұрын
See now your just saying whatever
@conradaster37646 ай бұрын
@@chideraumejiaku3895?? wtf are you talking are you a bot or just stupid ??
@Nephalem20026 ай бұрын
The fight with Shigaraki and SnS derailed the rest of the story.