'My husband has been underground for four months'

[@RantshaThetane-px4xp]

Police are there to arrest not to help with illegal activities

[@mgodoyikzn]

Yes arrest them

[@manandomkhabela7136]

Marikana reloading

[@vusidumisanimiya994]

Ababoshwe bonke nalaba ababasizayo

[@MzamoAdoons372]

​@@manandomkhabela7136Another massacre by the ANC government

[@manandomkhabela7136]

@@MzamoAdoons372 Now you are being lazy to think. ANC gave freedom to the arnachists and lawless people.

[@kasifooddeliverykfd6625]

Why do you need the police to help pull them out? they went there knowing exactly of the dangers.

[@MzamoAdoons372]

Just like the government providing you with free condoms. We did not send you to be sleeping allover the place but we also buy you condoms

[@Bluecollarjoe6B9]

“My Husband has been Breaking the Law for Four Months” fixed it.

[@LSG58]

A sotho woman

[@johnjon6062]

He must stay there forever.

[@AM-zx4mg]

Who supplied him food for 4 months,,,these guy's don't want to come out coz they are wanted for other crimes,,,

[@leviconspiracies]

😂😂😂😂

[@AlidaBikane-m6n]

Your husband is the new mayor of under ground province

[@neosteven07]

Problem is that if the police go underground, their safety is not guaranteed. Especially if you consider that only one person can go down at a time. Chances of a hostage situation occurring are unfortunately very high.

[@manenikalydia7888]

And the other thing is, if police can go underground, THESE PPL WILL THEN KEEP ON DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

[@MzamoAdoons372]

So a whole government and the police are clueless.

[@neosteven07]

@@MzamoAdoons372 They aren't clueless and that exactly why they aren't going underground, because they've thoroughly evaluated the situation.

[@InfoHubZA]

SANCO is useless. Who's responsibility is it to pull out those people who went underground illegally? So rescuers should risk their lives for nonsense?

[@manenikalydia7888]

Exactly my point. Who sent whose criminals there, their families hv been eating money and without encouraging them to stop this rubbish, come on, let them go down there and help if they care so much

[@emmanuelserepudi3406]

Nonsense is the Government that failed to prevent

[@2ndHandBoyfriend]

Rescuers have a job to do, an oath to up hold, it’s not up to the to play judge and jury… Save those that can be saved and prosecute later, recover those that have passed and give families closure. I’m not in anyway supporting illegal activities but life’s still life. Imo

[@mgodoyikzn]

​@@2ndHandBoyfriendto save who?criminals mabafe o SARTANA

[@2ndHandBoyfriend]

@@mgodoyikzn and uzondile mfe2 😂

[@RantshaThetane-px4xp]

If our law was consistent, those community members who knew about illegal activities but never reported they must be arrested

[@MzamoAdoons372]

The majority of those people are South Africans and they became Zama zamas out of poverty and unemployment.

[@bonganipeter9433]

​@MzamoAdoons372 Don't condone this nonsense. Most people are starving they aren't resorting to crime.

[@ThembiMbatha-c3s]

❤​@@bonganipeter9433

[@jeminajoycoetzee3404]

These reporters and “community” are talking like these people are not criminals, have they forgotten that laws were broken when those people went into those holes? Human rights are going to be the end of this country.

[@mamasmaseng7613]

Those who are out,let them go in and pull them out. Not our police they went there knowing exactly that what are they doing is illegally.

[@Cybernetwo]

This people terrorizing the community when they are out now they are desperate. Who must pull them up? Are they going to say who are they working for?

[@RantshaThetane-px4xp]

Arrest the community members who knew about illegal mining ....just like a person who knew about stolen goods and not report. Or kanthe how does South African law works ??

[@thulynkabinde1563]

Those who refused to come out are the most wanted

[@antonvrb1510]

Maybe you are right. Maybe someone if forcing them to stay there for some crazy reason. This does not make sense but we will find out soon enough....

[@aarongunnz9513]

They hardened criminals

[@princemasango4264]

All of those who want to go under ground to rescue those who down there it's not about rescuing them but to search gold from those who died there

[@penekedirero4636]

😂😂😂

[@mamasmosoathu1364]

🤔 Gold was taken by the others already. Why recently someone went and came back? These people die because they don't want to come back without anything. They should do the analysis to check if the shaft can accommodate 4500 people Undergroud Stampede may have contributed to this as well. And health condition as well because these is no sanitation there...

[@SharonKeune-zo1zi]

The police are not equipped to go into the mines. A lot of those zama's are armed.

[@BhekisisaPilotBiller]

we have kids who need money to go to school, out tax money cant take out criminals from the crime scene, they must come out the way they got inn.

[@marciamerciolene934]

Did the police send them there? They have bosses that they work for, let them call out to their employer. Saps this, saps that... Saps combats crime and brings perpetrators to justice, those members are trained in their respective profession not mining

[@2ndHandBoyfriend]

Police officers aren’t just trained to catch criminals, they render first aid, negotiate in hostage situations as well as search and rescue, only to name a few…. If a child wanders off without being kidnapped, you’d still call the police yet there’s no crime that’s been committed. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Quit being ignorant, life’s a full circle.

[@AnthonyMakamure]

😔 my sister, who sends those pple underground is not the issue here and it might happen that no-one sends anyone there. Pple are struggling to feed their families so they'll do any thing to support their families. Government must not promise to arrest them upon their surfacing as it might be the challenge for them fearing the arrest . The same Government must try send trained individuals underground to save or retrieve the deceased, once all thats is done . Then can now block or start the arrest the pple trying to enter there.

[@AnthonyMakamure]

They're community who are already there trying to assist so let the Government allow those to assist if police are not trained to go underground .

[@Tinker8531]

@@AnthonyMakamure Why don't they mine in their own countries if they struggling to feed their families. Why does it have to be South Africa.

[@Tinker8531]

@@AnthonyMakamure better if you call your Zimbabwean, Lesotho, Mozambican Embassies to come and speak to their people to surface, why always South African government.

[@noreenm5018]

These people people must SAPS out of their illegal doings. SAPS mandate is to enforce the law, not mining.

[@ThemegSenna]

How did they got there they must apply the same method to come out

[@sakumzimbatha1072]

This is a chance for home affairs to shine

[@FatimsShabalala]

Now they need help to come out. How do they go in there?

[@A1Zl-k8u]

Is the community aware that they are playing in the CRIME SCENE.

[@antonvrb1510]

I wonder if someone is keeping them in there by force. Why else would they choose to die there. Makes no sense.

[@Tinker8531]

@@antonvrb1510 Others came out, they said they don't want to be arrested.

[@antonvrb1510]

@Tinker8531 Yes, but now people are dying. No food or water! Surely many more would choose life and deportation over dying of thirst? I don't know. We will find out soon. This is such a situation of pure madness or the armed men are the ones who would prefer die than face SAPS. Who knows.

[@penekedirero4636]

​@@antonvrb1510that's irrelevant.

[@bulelanibaqwa]

Why are we having criminality forced onto us, we can never accept lawlessne ss

[@andiswamngxe6612]

They must call their government to come rescue them

[@vusidumisanimiya994]

Nje

[@AlidaBikane-m6n]

Lesotho Zimbabwe and Mozambique thy must come and collect their money

[@lehlohonolomokgata5612]

Th8s SANCO guy sounds like he was benefitting from this Zama zama project.

[@modisamabonda7811]

🤣🤣🤣

[@mashudukharivhe3018]

True

[@noreenm5018]

There are so many mines in Zimbabwe. Why they chose to illegally mine in SA.

[@cefasfah85]

As long as it is African land, doesn't matter

[@PumlaNzima]

​@@cefasfah85nantoke kwere😂

[@PumlaNzima]

​@@cefasfah85Elephants are not safe in Zim 😂😂😂

[@sibonisomhlanga7646]

How do you know that there are Zimbabweans??

[@PumlaNzima]

​@@sibonisomhlanga7646You must listen with understanding then you will know😂

[@ramogohlotebatso5039]

lets be honest who must go underground? that place is very dangerous....honestly the Government cant help on this regard people dont listen

[@VuyisilePontshi]

Who sent them underground?if they went there themselves let's them come out without help,no food,no water

[@dumisanesibeko1604]

poverty sent them there

[@Truthbetold-b4u]

Cops you only stand there one side get a chair and relax your duty is just to arrest let the community members rescue them at the end of the day it’s their family members enough of this criminals taking over

[@butisipho6982]

Arrest this women2

[@mamasmaseng7613]

Do we really have to use our resources like really for illegal miners.imagine our medical rescue

[@Mbulelo-n8t]

Haw ngeke SA siyadlala labantu leyandlela bebengene ngayo mabapumenhayo, pay back time akeniyeke amapoyisa ethu xem

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

This seems to be justice on itself

[@maditabaralitsela77]

They must be arrested once they are pulled up.

[@Phumza-mv2sf]

Bebengene njani abaphume ngalendlela Bebengene ngayo

[@mekswelltimothymalaza9546]

Some were there for 3 to 4 months why they were not coming out all along and u want Police to risk their lives, chineke.

[@MacMelo]

Akere community is concerned 🤷🏾 then the community must go rescue them 😊 easy! We can't risk lives trying to save people who knew what they were doing was illegal...

[@arseniodeoliveira1439]

I cannot wrap my head around the fact that there are more than 1 000 people underground 😵😵 how do you survive even a day there? No light no clean air, where do you relieve yourself??

[@diatilenthoba8262]

There's nothing useless like sanco...who sent them there... unless the same sanco was distorting those illegal miners?let their bosses arrange for them to be pulled out.

[@MacMelo]

This guy from SANCO is dom or is he endorsing illegal mining?, why would the government put so much effort in rescuing illegal miners??

[@dumisanesibeko1604]

coz governmentshould create jobs for its people otherwise we would have no such

[@Professor_Stark]

4,5k people underground is crazy. A single hunger fart down there is a death sentence.

[@siphosindi]

I believe there's more than that. You can walk and crawl for hours stretching kilometers to get to the gold. Hence a loaf of bread can cost R100.

[@ernavanheerden9709]

Why should the emergency services respond to people who willingly and knowing exactly what they let themselves in for, spend taxpayers money, on illegal activities?

[@kabelomorapa1482]

Why rescue criminals..

[@cefasfah85]

Mandela was once dubbed a criminal remember

[@mamasmaseng7613]

Mandela has never rape,kill nor terrorise any one​@@cefasfah85

[@PumlaNzima]

​@@cefasfah85lasho ikwere😂😂😂

[@antonvrb1510]

​@@cefasfah85Very different situation, surely you can see that. I do feel deeply for these men. I don't understand why they can not come out, but this is very different from what Madiba did. These men are trying to keep their families fed and alive and I respect that. Desperation is a terrible thing....

[@Tinker8531]

@@antonvrb1510 Why choose South Africa when they have mines in their own countries.

[@nkosanahlophe]

These women are the Basotho nationals their husbands are the ones who do this illegal activities, they must also be trialed for concealing criminal activities by their husbands.

[@dumisanesibeko1604]

they are hungry and their families they must eat , no jobs for blacks broh

[@fancyIOP]

No just the 1st one, the 2nd one is from Zimbabwe and she has her two sons there with her nephews too. I honestly feel sorry for them but their family members knew what they were getting into.

[@DavidMokoena-w7b]

Thanks this is very helpful can now be listen news and be updated

[@ConstanceTembani]

Medicals has a lot on their hands good they are not part to waste their limited resources. Why should they be helped they know their way. What if the police are attacked underground. Uyabhuda is pulling people underground in the job description of police officers.

[@Santitipe]

Who sent your husband underground?

[@dumisanesibeko1604]

he is making means of fighting poverty

[@Nhlakanipho450]

How can a trapped thief becomes government problem

[@antonvrb1510]

Some armed men are keeping them in there. Nothing else makes sense. Why would they choose to starve and die of thirst. I cant think of any other reason for them not to come out.

[@PstGrace0707]

So when they go under for 3 months, who brings them food? Let their boss pull them out. All this time we are complaining with zama zama people and sanco knows about them, their sisters and wives weeeeee!

[@Dr_Mathe_Omdala]

Circumstances drive men to go through such . Address the issue , you solve the problem. You can’t solve a problem by cutting off food supplies. You can’t do that .

[@PumlaNzima]

Zimbabwe is responsible for their nation

[@dududugwala1059]

So you want them to be fed so they continue with mining? What if you feed them n they don't come out ? Tell us

[@SnowQueenie]

So how do you get them to come out then if you're feeding them

[@Dr_Mathe_Omdala]

@@SnowQueenie all these people want is soft porridge and some water so that they can get energy to climb a 2 km rope. They are eating Colgate mixed with vinegar for days now. They don’t want groceries no. It takes 45 minutes for 50 community members to pull one person out. All the government can do is to provide a crane and some soft porridge to help the pulling process faster.

[@nicholasfungurani9677]

What I dont understand is that what were they doing underground for 2 to 3 years? What was their business underground

[@NirmalaMoodley-h2l]

Interesting how these illegal miners find their way in ,and now await to be rescued. Is this what our SAPS need , like they don't have an important task ,to protect citizens of SA.

[@bulelwagantsu3458]

Queues are long at public clinics and hospitals. From which hospitals and clinics are those doctors and nurses expected to be pulled from??? If those zama Zama’s want health care, they should come out or be brought out and they will receive the proper health care that they need. But for Dr and nurses who are already in shortage to be stationed there is asking too much!

[@ThanyaniLavhengwa]

I can't feel for the criminals

[@mananamak2660]

How did they pull out caucus meaning those miners down there are still fit to lift and tie the dead bodies

[@JacobMathejane-ql2rr]

I knew that it's not only foreigners involved in this by the way the whole community was worried.What happened "foreign nationals are advancing zama zamas"?

[@Tinker8531]

It's mostly foreigners. Some of these communities are financially supported by these Zama Zam's. Artisanal mining needs to be made legal for South Africans. Foreigners have mines in their own countries.

[@Cybernetwo]

Babatla thupa habatswa ka moo 😂😂😂 ba stout

[@wonderful-m4v]

Ha le utswa ha le mmitse Modimo. Le mmatla feela ha le le mathateng.😢

[@majorothapelo3884]

Those who knew must also face music in court😏they knew their family members are involved in crime yet they kept quiet. Nxa

[@tloutlou2655]

Our Police can't risk for outlaws

[@mopatel944]

Why should they be rescued?

[@jeomaake9449]

Helang monna mosotho, wa sia mosadi yo motle tsena a le esi o nagana eng?

[@BaronMaron-g2j]

Just leave down there so others can learn

[@mamasmaseng7613]

Save their lives and let them come back,this people are dangerous

[@GAZESKOGAZESKO]

So how food managed to go though.how plz help me know um impressed n happy for that

[@GAZESKOGAZESKO]

Yeh plz tell

[@chukuannah3835]

This people need to just leave them underground because how long this go on

[@dillyndedope937]

So not sad

[@jainendebele-fr5fp]

Let's value every life God will bless us ❤ I wish safe rescue for them

[@PumlaNzima]

2 years ago the same community with illegal miners were rescued that means they will go back again

[@wonderful-m4v]

Then go help them and don't use your misunderstang of who God is to gain sympathy for these people. U reap what u sow.

[@mgodoyikzn]

Go down and rescue them

[@Tinker8531]

Contact your embassy to come rescue their citizens. they never want to get involved.

[@thabisomtembi5843]

I wonder how those people coping with the smell of those who died underground there

[@ThandiQamba]

Site ngozini thina bazi philelayo kuba kukho imizi ngaphantsi domdom inko kheli zethu

[@ThelmaMokua]

Government resources should not be used for illegal matters please those are our tax monies and moreover they are not South Africans😢

[@MelusiMelusi-f1f]

Mandela told us that we voted and win bt no with no experience to govern the country.All our politicians are fools thats why we are in this rubbish

[@NkosingiphileErnest]

Why must the government provide them with food and health services whilst they are breaking the law? Police must go in there and arrest them

[@ThandiSelokela]

The way ba tseneng ka teng aba tswe ke di noga bona

[@tonnymufamadi3378]

Police does not have even clue of what is happening they are the once close the hole for those miners

[@AnnoyedBloomingFlower-og3qe]

Shame it's always easy to blame the Government

[@Matthew6thirty3]

Theres redemption through the blood of Jesus and forgiveness of sins..

[@thabomatjiu3473]

Medical aid on who's expenses our people need ambulances in townships nd sanco wants them to be at the illegal mining site

[@ephraimmutsika4168]

This scenario raises complex legal questions that would need to be assessed by legal experts and courts. However, based on the information available , it's possible that the actions of the police could be considered a form of manslaughter. Here's why: Intention: While the police might not have intended to kill the miners, their actions of sealing the mine shaft and cutting off essential supplies created a situation where death was a foreseeable and likely outcome. Negligence: The police's actions could be seen as grossly negligent, as they failed to take reasonable steps to prevent the deaths of the miners. Legal Responsibility: The police, as agents of the state, may be held accountable for their actions, even if they were following orders. However, it's important to note that specific legal definitions and interpretations can vary depending on the jurisdiction and the specific circumstances of the case. A thorough legal investigation would be necessary to determine the exact charges and potential consequences.

[@dududugwala1059]

So what do you want police to do Sir ? or you want food to be sent there forever, what if they don't come out still?

[@ruthmay8446]

“ People have not eaten for 3 months down there” they chose to go down there illegally. Mining is dangerous work. You can’t expect things to go well without proper procedures and qualified people on site.

[@kingpk4429]

I'm waiting to hear from our neighboring countries governments...

[@TlouDipela-j7o]

Woman your husband is the president under ground. Why crying because you he told you when he go there and you agreed because the greediness of becoming rich criminally. Whom to blame? They are not trapped. Those who wish to die with them go there and rescue them

[@katlegomathabe9666]

Lol, comparing this to Marikana is so misleading. Artisanal mining? That’s just inviting another violent industry, like what we see with the taxi business. Mine unions are trying to score cheap points here, but they’re missing the bigger picture! lolface-fuchsia-poop-shape Mining isn’t a casual, low-stakes job; it’s high-risk, with real dangers and lives on the line. That’s why we have strict regulations modern days-laws that require safety gear, training, and compensation if there’s an accident or a collapse. This is exactly why we should only allow regulated corporations. Established, licensed companies are easier to monitor, which also makes it possible to control supply and demand, keeping market prices stable and the industry safer

[@mashelebenson9979]

I wonder if there is oxygen down there

[@emkay_4755]

Babethunywe ubani? Niya nyanyisa nina ayisuka

[@tonnymufamadi3378]

No work for South Africans no work for our black brothers from around so now what must happen everyone let it be a holiday we go to that area to assist shame on gorvenent.

[@kingpk4429]

Marikana😢😢 We might lose many of them, with low energy is not easy to come out.

[@Truthbetold-b4u]

This is nothing like marikana

[@MacMelo]

Rest in peace to them in advance 😊... we can't be spending tax payers money on illegal miners when they willingly went in there... im definitely sure they know their way out shem!!! We are battling food poising that's killing our children, but here we are prioritizing illegal miners, which some are illegal immigrants

[@angieleemans8316]

Why only report now ?

[@Perthraya]

Bebefuna ntoni pha?

[@cefasfah85]

Bebesebenza

[@PumlaNzima]

​@@cefasfah85Lashikwere😂😂😂

[@mgodoyikzn]

​@@cefasfah85 besebenza ini?

[@dududugwala1059]

​@@cefasfah85let them work then

[@ItsAmazing00]

Our tax contributions are not for that.

[@livinganddyingabroad]

4,000???? Is there still so much gold in these mines ?

[@stanleytshwale1263]

They will not see Christmas. Let the section that allow the to live save from dungeon of darkness

[@healinginhispresencewithle4982]

I'm really concerned with this Interviewer, she just doesn't know how to ask questions. The right questions.

[@HBinc5]

Julius Malema please help this disaster

[@cookingwithbeautybaking7526]

Criminal is a criminal noba bebefile. Bebefanele basizwe ziboss zabo ngalendlela bangena ngayo abaphume ngayo .

[@MahlaselaSimon]

We care about criminals over than ever now is the big deal whereby we need jobs out here unlike money spend for useless things

[@nomahlubimzizi7875]

These people are dangerous and already they have broken the law must take it's course and no Police officer must risk their lives inorder to save those criminals Yhoo 🤔😲🤞

Why does Sanco get involved with illigals o yes forgot they are all about illigal things

[@FanieManganyi]

and there are some police who are part and parcel into this mater,we need traceability why?

[@bhekizwane2659]

Damned they are in a big problem All i can say.

[@leviconspiracies]

It was Fun when they were benefiting now it's bad.