My Ideal take on 87546

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I’ll be hosting another poll some day of which ideal take of the characters you wish to see so keep your eye out for it :) (I’ll probably do Henry and Gordon next but idk I’ll see what the poll have to say when I make it). Also checkout the previous ideal video I made on 98462: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYnZeaipqb2sfM0si=Ox4ZyzvnSiWZfmR9

[@Sudriantank12]

Why the numbering system?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@Sudriantank12 so it’s no surprised my number system is that every engine has a 3 digit number If an engines first digit is 1 in their three digit number that means the engine is a pre grouped engine from one of the regrouped railways. If an engines first digit is 2 that means they were built or bought during the NWR’s period (from 1918-present). If an engines first digit is 3 that means they are diesel or electric locomotives bought by the NWR.

[@Sudriantank12]

@@ScorchZaneTrains ok? But did any engine ever get repainted into their rws livery?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@Sudriantank12 my ideal take is the NWR’s livery is a royal blue with gold lining, so no since my ideal NWR has a convention where every engine has be painted royalty blue, only when they have a good reason is when they can have another livery NWR or not.

[@Sudriantank12]

@ScorchZane no but to like promote the railway series

[@That_one-7F]

My headcanon for 87546, he is a older GNR O2 known as Regeby he along his younger brother Dudley in 1936 to the north west railway in trail along 18 ohter engines, he was a bit vain and cocky but he can be friendly and helpful to others, he later becomes a NWR along his brother and some ohter engines in 1947, he is painted in NWR express blue with red gold lining and the number 21 on the railway and his brother Dudley was number 22.

[@MattheWeirdHuman]

My Ideal 87546: She is a GCR B7, trialed in 1921 alongside Edna (98462). Before she can be withdrawn, Sir Topham Hatt I purchased her and she was set to work on the Kirk Ronan Branch with Edna & Dorothy. She was given the name Amanda, after a childhood friend of Bridget Hatt, Sir Topham Hatt I’s granddaughter.

[@marklincovet509]

First off: i also have Gordon as great northern. Second: 87546 is a gnr o1 called croven who while being friends with Alfred (for one reason or another), croven was a generally neutral engine that was a little boastful at times but never resorted to bullying like Alfred would.

[@Imsorrywat]

For me, 87546 is a Dean single. He got into more arguments with Edward than anyone else, due to his hypocrisy (Come on, man, you’re older than he is), and was basically just tagging along with the big engines out of necessity for relevance. He was sent away in the late 20’s due to a crash with an empty passenger train, and his current whereabouts are unknown.

[@DarkBlueEngineProductions2025]

doesn’t 87546 being a Dean Single make him a bit old

[@loanedengineproductions]

My ideal 87456 is an experimental 2-8-0 tender engine built by the LMS, He was based off an 8F and was built in 1932, he was loaned there during the Depression to help with increased work and helped splendidly, 87546 or Johnston, was a bit of a rude engine, always showing off his strength to smaller engines like Edward, Henry, Percy, Thomas and James, he has stopped being rude, but is pretty anti-social, he does his work without fuss, but doesn't like to talk to anyone

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

interesting I do like he idea of him being based off a SDJR 8F and him being from a rude engine to a more quiet engine, is really interesting

[@loanedengineproductions]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Thanks, I thought why not, but for 98462, it's a completly different story

[@SegaMario]

Your take on his personality is a bit similar to how I see him - while he was a bully like 98462, he was mostly reluctant in doing so, wanting to stay on 98462's good side by mostly copying what he did. However, his "arrogant" attitude mellowed out during his final days on the NWR. He and 98462 were sent away for their horrid behaviour, but Edward was sorry to see 87546 go as he knew there was good in him.

[@archermania9314]

cool

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

2:44 wouldn't children mistook him for henry

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

That same argument could be used if he was blue he would be confused for Gordon. Plus I don’t think Topham was just have permission to repaint the loaned engines to NWR liveries cause pride.

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

​@@ScorchZaneTrainsblack works

[@NWRAmericanK2Productions]

In My Au 87546 is an Experimental LNER B17 Built In 1911 Along With 98462 and 76624/Julian The Red Engine. And Then In 1922 They Were Loaned To The N.W.R Along With Afton and The Green Engine.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Only issue I have with this explanation is: 1. The LNER was formed in 1923 per the railways act of 1921. 2. B17s were built in 1928. However it’s your AU so it’s up to on how you shape the characters whether it’s basis, or details, I may not agree with it all the time. However you are entitled to have a AU of your own so let you have your spark.

[@NWRAmericanK2Productions]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Well I Know That The B17’s Weren’t Built Until 1928 and That The LNER Wasn’t,t Formed until 1923. Well Since 87546 was Built In 1911 He was a GER B17.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@NWRAmericanK2Productions oh ok now that clears up some fuzziness (I have no idea what word to use other than that tbh)

[@NWRAmericanK2Productions]

@@ScorchZaneTrains your Welcome

[@garyong1301]

My ideal 87546 is the b17

[@matthewpowell2429]

Interesting. My ideal 87546 is this: His name is Murry. He's a B17 #2842. He came to Sodor in the late 1920s with Alfred (B12 8572) and Crovan (a C11 4-4-2 with no number). While Crovan was a polite chap, Alfred and Murry of course were rude and vile. Crovan was later sent away with Alfred after he (instead of Gordon) rolled into a ditch to avoid pulling an express goods. Over time, he an Alfred started to change and soon felt regret over what they did on Sodor. During WWII, Murry sacrificed himself by pushing a train loaded with munitions when a German bombing raid flew in, and he got blown up. While it was sad, it did end on a note where he fully redeemed himself.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

When did he arrived?

[@matthewpowell2429]

@@ScorchZaneTrains I haven't decide when exactly, but its around the late 1920s, so I'm thinking somewhere between 1927-1929. My AU is still been written and I haven't had time to fully complete it.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@matthewpowell2429 well technically 1928-1929 since the B17s, but finally it makes sense how 87546 is a B17.

[@matthewpowell2429]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Well since both had the personality of a stuck-up LNER express engine and because he was a 4-6-0 with outside pistons, a B17 seemed perfect, plus I've seen one or two other fandomers use the B17 for a basis, so it made sense in my mind.

[@Jadinite-2006]

Personally, My version of 98462 would be the same as yours except he would still be a male & his name would still be Alfred. (The name has grown on me.) However, My version of 87546 (aka Clovis, and yes, she's a female) will be more or less different, idk, I'm still working on it. Despite RWS/TTTE&F being a book/TV show for young & old fans, the lore is very confusing to say the least for me.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Alfred’s name I get, and thank goodness tbh it never made sense for 87546 to be named after one of Sodor’s king when he meant to be temporary, not permanent.

[@DarkBlueEngineProductions2025]

@@ScorchZaneTrains I think naming him after a king is what gave him a big smokebox

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@DarkBlueEngineProductions2025 still feels wrong to name of a Sodor one

[@FlyingMontyExpress]

My ideal 87546 is he was built in 1919 and was meant to replace the c1 Atlantics and did a good job but after a fire at the workshop 87546s blue prints were destroyed and he was the only member of the class and after being sent to sodor he befriended a B12 named Alfred and his story plays out the same as Thomas 1 Edward 2 Henry 3

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

2:39 is he is pulling gordon's Special coaches

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

in my AU, it’s always been the express coaches liveries

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

2:35 perhaps was a punishment to repaint them blue

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I don’t think it would be a punishment since blue would look great, plus sir Topham wouldn’t have the permission from the GNR to do so.

[@westinbridges7321]

To quote Ringo Starr, "James didn't like that at all."

[@TheSudrianTerrier653]

Question , why do the NWR engines have numbers starting from 201 when there was probably no engines before them?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

all NWR locomotives have 3 digits in my AU

[@TheSudrianTerrier653]

@@ScorchZaneTrains but if there was no engines before 201 then….

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

There is, however NWR No.201 Thomas Grove contraction suffered delays and was only completed until 1924.

[@TheSudrianTerrier653]

@@ScorchZaneTrains I mean numerically , like there’s no 200, 199, etc

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@TheSudrianTerrier653 oh there is actually, I just haven’t got to them yet (I might re-design NWR no.200 since I feel like his design is a bit chunky).

[@TheSudrianTerrier653]

My ideal 87546 is a GWR 4300, and his name was actually Joseph

[@gresleyng-thebritishrailwayfan]

My headcanon for 87546 was a GNR Prototype O2 class no. 461.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

the most epic AU (or in this case head canon) ever.

[@Alex-v7y9p]

In my hc, 87546 is an lner b12, named Barry. He was a prototype built in 1910, and was very rude, and even tried to manipulate Thomas in 1925, but Edward stopped him, and he was sent away with 98462 and the red engine in 1925, and Topham was happy to get 87546 off his hands.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

87546 as a B12, now thats an interesting take

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

2:44 Perhaps he stayed on sodor for 2 years

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

well my ideal takes, my rules

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Which pencils you use to draw

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

In the sketchbook app I use Technical Pen, flow airbrush and coarse watercolor

[@alexgriffy1987]

I think 87546 is a Robinson B1/B18 built in 1921 and after he went to Sodor in 1922, he ran into a freight train and had a running board like Henry’s.

[@Michaelxl]

In my au Gordon. Was also the great northern nice to know a KZbinr I watch has a similar au to mine

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Yeah I’ll get to why I have Gordon as Great Northern after I do Henry

[@Blueengine42]

My ideal 87546 may be surprising But he is a CR 191 Class Painted CR Blue with 87546 on his Cab and C R On his Tender

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

87546 as a Caledonian, now that’s an interesting take

[@Blueengine42]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Thanks

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

I do like the class and shade of Blue and how that class was build in 1922 and one year before Edward's day out

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Is he looks a hybrid of a b17 with a k1

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

he’s still custom built in my universe (nothing do with the B17 BS, but he does somewhat resemble a Gresley K1)

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Is cecil as overused as 87546 becasue i don't even think so since most people use crovan back then for the most part and much like to his original counderpart 87546 did do nothing to the plot

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I just don’t consider him as 87546 in my universe

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

@@ScorchZaneTrains apart from sodor dark times have people potrayed both 98462 and 87546 as b12s

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

no I don’t think, unless you count the B12 model with the cylinder and valve gear as a B12 then I suppose.

[@niwagurung6340]

What app did u use to make these vids

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I use CapCut to edit my videos

[@elnuevocanaldelchilenin425]

I really love this take on 87546

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@elnuevocanaldelchilenin425 glad you like it (even tho it’s outdated now)

[@elnuevocanaldelchilenin425]

@ScorchZaneTrains wanna hear my headcanon for 87546?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@ I mean, if you wanna

[@elnuevocanaldelchilenin425]

@ScorchZaneTrains Back in 1919, when Henry was born, two other engines were built a couple days before him, their numbers being 87546 and 87545. Henry was sold to the NWR in order to: 1. Get rid of him. and 2. Get more money to fix the other two engines' problems. 87546 and 87545 were pretty similar to Henry, the most noticible differences being their domes and front board, which resembled that of the Robbinson class B4's. The twins arrived at Sodor in 1920 to help with the mixed traffic work. 87546 was quite a short tempered engine, she hated shunting her own trains since it was "utterly tedious", often resulting on her derailing some trucks by accident and causing endless frustration for the yard managers (She also ripped the coupling off from that coach the day before Edward's Day Out). She also disliked pulling passengers, since they were "absolute naggers". Now 87545 (aka the green engine from Edward's Day Out) is quite the grumpy engine, but she has a soft spot for tank engines and smaller tender engines. However there's something she absolutely hates, the winter. She really dislikes ice and snow, especially since it makes the rails slippery, and it gets worse when it comes to Gordon's hill. The twins had arguments quite often since 87545 never approve 87546's behaviour towards the smaller engines and their half brother, Henry.

[@EnterprisingEngine73]

My ideal 87546 is GNR O2 Numberd 485 and Named Colton

[@NexusWorks924]

In my AU 87546 is a LNER B4 a Robinson design

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

as a Great Central Lover, I can say this take on 87546 is amazing. (yeah I also like the GCR 8F/LNER B4 class, so really good take).

[@NexusWorks924]

@@ScorchZaneTrains thanks In present day, he is number 308 Of the Northwestern railway.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@NexusWorks924 may I ask what is the NWR’s number system is like in your ideal Thomas universe?

[@NexusWorks924]

@ScorchZane It's complicated but let's just say. I took a lot of inspiration from railway Mania. For example, Thomas is 101 in my Canon, Edward is 102. Gordon is 304. Henry is 303. James is 305 alled greedy is 306. Percy is 106, Toby is 107. 103 104 Are Adam and Lily. And so on and so forth, but it is still quite complicated.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@NexusWorks924 true but the 3 digit number system is based (my number system is also inspired by railway mania as well).

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Was he and Thomas where like best friends

[@archermania9314]

This is a great take on his character

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

thank you man

[@archermania9314]

no prob@@ScorchZaneTrains

[@archermania9314]

@@ScorchZaneTrains but someone's missing 76624

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

oh the first red engine

[@archermania9314]

@@ScorchZaneTrains yup

[@DarkBlueEngineProductions2025]

my ideal take on 87546 don't get me wrong, he's had a lot of depictions ranging from his name to his basis Full Name: Lord Frederick Regaby (or just Regaby by DemonOfNowhere for short) Basis: GNR A1 1915 Draft like Henry (Yes in my HC: Henry and 87546 are siblings but Henry is a 4-6-0 and 87546 is 4-6-2) Build Date: 1921 Arrived on Sodor: 1922 (with Alfred/98463, 98462/Abelard, Crovan/87547, 65347/Alan/Alled Greedy and 76624/Afton by 22Tesla) Personality: Very Rude and Cocky (and he became even worse when 98462 was scrapped) Sent Away: 1925 Liveries: GNR Green (1921-1923), LNER Blue (1923-1925) and if you're wondering, Crovan and Cecil also exist in my head-canon for their basis's Crovan/87547 from NWR Origins Full Name: King Godred Crovan Basis: GNR Experimental 4-6-0 Tender Engine/LNER K3x Build Date: 1919 Arrived on Sodor: 1922 Personality: Started of as a jerk but he eventually changed his ways in 1924 Purchased: 1925 NWR Number: 34 Liveries: GNR Green (1919-1923), LNER Green (1923-1925), RWS NWR Dark Blue (1925-1939), LNER Black (1939-1945), LNER Blue (1945-1948), BR Black (1948-1968), TVS NWR Dark Blue (1968-Present Day) Cecil/87545 from Sodor Dark Times Basis: GNR H2/LNER K1 Build Date: 1912 Arrived on Sodor: 1923 Rebuilt: 1931 into an LNER K2 Personality: A Quiet Sort but he does his work Purchased: 1925 NWR Number: 62 Liveries: GNR Green (1912-1923), LNER Blue (1923-1931), LNER Green (1931-1939), LNER Black (1939-1945), RWS NWR Blue (1945-1948), BR Black (1948-1968), TVS NWR Blue (1968-Present Day)

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

What if GNR aprooved of 87546 will be painted blue

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Very unlikely since the GNR like the many 120 rail companies tend to be very prideful

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

@@ScorchZaneTrains are you sure, LBSCR had 3 liveries

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@mary.of.mares.1470 doesn’t mean they (one of the 120 rail companies in the UK) automatically allow the NWR ato just paint their engines they have loaned into their liveries since once again, I don’t believe they have permission to do so, (specifically with the engines that would later be apart of the LNER).

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

My Take On Him Is That He's A LBSCR K class Modified Into A 4-6-2

[@Dafurnessrailwayguy]

My ideal 87546 is that he was built in 1914 he was named great fredrick and he was number 87546 he was built in lner and he was a b3 and he was painted green and in 1919 he was sent to sodor and he was repainted to light blue and yellow strieps he and 98462 and 789042 work in nwr but he 87546 was rude and spitfuel he would bashthe trucks and make engines derailed and hes a cocky and boastfuel and in 1965 he was sent to the scrapy yard he was try to escape and he was scrap after wards But he became a piece of scrap but hes still alive and he was preserved in 1969 and he was repainted to black and he was renamed sir robert and he was renumberd 80976 and he still work to this day

[@GreenRRBoi13]

Great art bro

[@Alex-v7y9p]

this is a nice take

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

thank you

[@SierraRail3Prod]

My ideal Crovan is… an LNER B1. (Thompson B1)

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Thompson version or the Robinson version?

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Tbh he is also a gnr h class with 2 leading wheels

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Who is?

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

@@ScorchZaneTrains 87546 in my universe

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 oh I see

[@DuckyLTD69]

This is true, the NWR can't paint loaned engines in their liveries, they arent their property.

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Exactly unless they were granted permission then I don’t see how the loaned engines would just be painted on NWR liveries.

[@DuckyLTD69]

Also, When Duck comes on the NWR in 1930, is he painted in NWR navy or?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

He still maintains his GWR green paint (albeit with NWR numbering and lettering). He did wear a livery known as NWR Wartime Navy Black at one point but was repainted back.

[@DuckyLTD69]

Ive got a Huge fleet of my idealized Sodor, however whenever i get to a war story, if i ever, its gonna Sting a bit to paint them black. Although navy blue is already kinda camouflaging. Also, i need some advice, i have this GWR Small Prarie that comes in 1924, should i keep it in GWR Green although it would tecnacly be copyright or paint it Navy Blue as the uniform color?

[@Sudriantank12]

What was the the fate of 87546

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

connect the dots he was sent away, BR rolled diesels and he was never preserved

[@Sudriantank12]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Damm it!!!

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@Sudriantank12 yup L Bozo he got cut up just for a bunch of boxes on wheels

[@Sudriantank12]

@ScorchZane atleast have a replica be built

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@Sudriantank12might use that ideal for one of my own NWR locomotives

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Is he scrapped

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

yes

[@KapilKaushik-cl3ep]

can you do an ideal of the Flying Scotsman

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

no, that’s a real life engine not a fictional character

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Becasue he is freelance is he hybrid of a k1 and a c1

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

He’s a experimental H3 with a 4-6-0 wheel arrangement

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

@@ScorchZaneTrains with a c1 firebox

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 no just a more extended H3 firebox since the small boiler one is too small and the large boiler ones are too awkward to fit onto his footplate and running board.

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

@@ScorchZaneTrains do the h3s have extended fireboxes

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

only 87546 in my universe does, the GNR H3s just have their regular sized fireboxes if you listen carefully you’ll know the reason why 87546 is designed the way he is, is to help out with the heavy express trains and work load that the H3s and C1s were having a hard time with.

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

Tbh since when richard beeching betrayed the diesels

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I don’t recall any of that, maybe search it up?

[@chavopatyfanstudios2005]

@@ScorchZaneTrains 70s or 80s

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@chavopatyfanstudios2005 oh yeah he kinda did in favor of new motive power, guess karma hit those diesels whom mocked the steamies really hard

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

Well my ideal 87546 is an LNER Robinson Atlantic and Henry is GWR the great Bear

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Oh so both Henry and 98462 are GCRs?

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

@@ScorchZaneTrains now I have chainged him into The Great Bear

[@mary.of.mares.1470]

@@ScorchZaneTrains wait not 98462 he is a b4

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

huh interesting

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

oh ok

[@yoniazrad5752]

So in your AU 87546 really did get scrapped

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Sadly

[@EnterprisingEngine73]

If i count 87546 as a B12 his name would be Fredson

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

I see, very well if that’s how your gonna have him (if he was to be a B12).

[@EnterprisingEngine73]

​@ScorchZane Honestly, Crovan, being 87546's name, is getting tiresome But Cecil's Fine

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

ikr 87546 being named after one of sodors kings is just not right for me.

[@EnterprisingEngine73]

@@ScorchZaneTrains Yeah

[@adityawidinurcahyanto3651]

Maybe make the first tender engine on edwars day out

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

The red one?

[@Sudriantank12]

​@@ScorchZaneTrainsyes

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

probably I’ll make a long list of characters I might cdo an ideal video on

[@CuldeeandGodred_p]

Did 87546.......die?

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Sadly he was withdrawn and scrapped in 1969. I do plan to make a short film of why he was sent away and his dynamic with Gordon.

[@CuldeeandGodred_p]

I like his design btw

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@CuldeeandGodred_p cheers

[@CuldeeandGodred_p]

Maybe he could have been preserved by a heritage line like the Bluebell Railway

[@gfuelmonster5415]

I think my ideal 87546 is that he’s a b12 or b17

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

Ok what year did your 87546 arrived in

[@gfuelmonster5415]

1923 the same year when Gordon arrived in my Thomas au what do you think scorchzane

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@gfuelmonster5415 well the B12 seems to have a higher possibility then the B17 if that’s the case

[@gfuelmonster5415]

Well how about a h3 design for 87546 in my au plus the h3 where one of Nigel Gresley early designs that where built in 1912 I think pick that one

[@ScorchZaneTrains]

@@gfuelmonster5415 ok go for it, if you think that’s how you envision 87546

[@LucasNano-qv4ep]

Wrong

[@LucasNano-qv4ep]

WHY YOU ARE SO DUMESMES EVER DEAL I MADE SUPER ANGRY