My IONIQ 5 Visit To Tesla Magic Dock...Greatest Backup Charger For Your CCS Car.

[@Silly1040]

Welcome to Tesla!! Those of us with the Tesla vehicles will validate that the supercharger network is the biggest unrealized reason to enjoy our vehicles. I had to smile when you guys were excited with the ability to start charging in under a minute, as Tesla owners are pissed if was to take 30 seconds :)

[@electricprincipal543]

I know...the chargers and the software are the best thing Tesla does.

[@jeffadams9268]

Forgot to mention there's currently less than 50 magic docks in ALL of North America..

[@frankcoffey]

That was good content, thanks guys.

[@boborambow]

Thank you so much for posting this video! It seems Tesla/Hyundai have figured out the software issues that was limiting the charging to 47kw. I am glad to see the voltage booster is working as it should at a Supercharger. Charging at 98kw is perfectly acceptable! Going from 10-80 in 37 minutes is kind of industry standard for most 400v cars with this size battery anyways. Once adapters come out, this will be a fantastic option and alternative to other sub 150 kw public chargers out there. Of course if there are working 350 kw chargers nearby, I'll definitely still use those. Watching my EV6 juice up in less than 20 minutes still blows my mind.

[@ayeomandvl]

Thank you for this video. I have a Genesis and and was curious how the Tesla chargers would do when the adapters come out. 98kw is manageable as a backup. When I had a CCS Hertz rental in LA the only working CCS charger around Hollywood was some odd ball that got 60kw at a Sprouts. Hitting a Tesla charger would have been great.

[@electricprincipal543]

Should be the same as the IONIQ 5

[@ChristopherDillman]

13:58 - Are those Magic Docks available at Tesla supercharger stations, or only available at Tesla destination charging stations?

[@electricprincipal543]

250kw. Use the Tesla app to find them. There are only a limited number of them available.

[@Yanquetino]

The fact that the charge remained steady at ~97kW is impressive! That's just as fast, perhaps faster, than a Tesla would charge there. Yes, my Model 3 would start charging at 250kW, but it would then start dropping precipitously all the way down to 60kW upon reaching 80%. If Tesla would just start opening up other Superchargers without Magic Docks for those who have their own adapters from Lectron or A2Z… I'd immediately buy an Ioniq 5 like yours. Thanks for posting this!

[@electricprincipal543]

You are right about the charging speed. Thanks for adding your insights in the comment section.

[@ChristopherDillman]

I'm not so sure Tesla supercharger stations have the magic docks. Only the destination charging stations.

[@jamesevans225]

The fact that Tesla charging stations do not have LCD screens that try to provide information is surprisingly smart. I wanted to know everything, and I wanted to see it on the charging station. But then I started seeing BUSTED screens, which made me think that the entire charging station was not functional. So good insights by Tesla.

[@just-becool8822]

Sorry, what app are they using?

[@electricprincipal543]

Tesla app.

[@steveisaacson7627]

Does this mean... the iD4 is gone? Love your videos!

[@electricprincipal543]

Nope...still own one with my brother. However, I love the heat pump and the ability to warm the battery before going to chargers in the Ioniq 5. Never thought I would own a Korean car, but they make an outstanding product. Still going to do some VW videos in the near future.

[@steveisaacson7627]

Thanks for the reply! We are kindred spirits Bob! Keep up the great videos and information!@@electricprincipal543

[@COSolar6419]

The Magic Dock equipped Supercharger locations in Montrose and Craig are right next to existing 200 kW ChargePoint DCFC. For our Ioniq 5 the ChargePoint provides a much faster charge and is cheaper.

[@Paul-cj1wb]

Since EGMP vehicles currently use the rear motor as an inverter on 400v chargers, it limits the speeds to around 97kws. I'm sure that from now on Hyundai/Kia will provide a better inverter on newer models now that Tesla has opened its network to them.

[@RandySeverino]

Why are Tesla chargers so slow? , Electrify America sucks, but when they work, I can get 150 KWH and go form 10% to 80% in 25 min.

[@allenmurray6393]

What is the app you used at the tesla charging station called?

[@electricprincipal543]

Tesla app. You just enter the brand and model of your car along with a credit card number. Works with all CCS cars.

[@MarySovi]

@@electricprincipal543 Bob, do you mean the Tesla Supercharger app as opposed to the Tesla app? So does this mean we don’t need to buy a Tesla charger adapter for our 2024 Ioniq 5? How long did it take you to charge your car in this video?

[@stevehan8157]

I expect Electrify America will convert to NACS plug soon and CCS will go away entitely in North America. CCS is the Betamax of EV plugs

[@electricprincipal543]

Yes it is...However all CCS cars will function with adaptors, just like Tesla users work with when they want a 350 kilowatt charger. That is precisely what a magic doc is and it would not surprise me if someone from Tesla would state that the software already exists to have every Tesla charger work like a magic doc in the near future.

[@stevehan8157]

@@electricprincipal543 Another possibility is that they modify the inflation reduction act to no longer require CCS compatibility to qualify for the federal incentives given the current trends. If that happens then Tesla won’t have to spend money on magic docks since most automakers are offering free adapters anyways. We shall see.

[@glenngore6609]

The sad thing is that 5 months after your made this video, you can’t to anywhere from Colorado and have access to a Magic Dock-equipped Tesla Supercharger. There are none in New Mexico, 2 in Texas, none in Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Kansas, 1 in Nebraska, none in the Dakotas, Montana, Utah, etc etc. The Magic Dock program has been an enormous bust for Tesla. I assume the reason they are not building any more Magic Docks is because they are waiting for EV makers to switch to the NACS connector, so there is no reason to build any more Magic Docks. Of course, this switchover will take years and meanwhile, none of us with CCS cars in these blank areas will ever get to use a Supercharger.

[@hvu6037]

It's my opinion that magic docks is Tesla's way of testing and validating the charger software and adapter hardware for other OEM cars. It will make them more money in selling SC access and adapters than retrofitting existing SCs with magic docks stalls. And with adapters, any EVs can go to all the existing V3 version SC locations so in the end, it's a win win for all.

[@glenngore6609]

@@hvu6037Except that here in the western half of Oklahoma and western half of Kansas and the panhandles of Oklahoma and Texas, there are no V3 Superchargers at all, so we are just totally out of luck and hope that other providers will step in and build some DCFC sites to use

[@just-becool8822]

Providing what @glenngore6609 said, does this mean the adaptors from J1772 to Tesla (and I don’t know what that’s called) are the way to go until Tesla and the rest of the world figure it all out?

[@just-becool8822]

I think I got that backwards

[@BioniqBob]

So a non Tesla car can not use a Tesla charger if you do not have a cell phone. Not so great.

[@newporttom]

This applies to the 0.0000000001% people that drive an electric car and no cell phone

[@BioniqBob]

@@newporttom Thanks, very helpful.

[@scottz45]

Never want a CCS car. Just silly.

[@frankcoffey]

CCS cars are going to be a hard sell this year with everything going to NACS next year. However, there are folks who never use public charging, just charge at home. So they don't really care.

[@electricprincipal543]

I just bought a 23 Ioniq five. Looking forward to getting my adapter for Tesla chargers. I am fine with 100 kW of charging from 5 to 80% for the few times I will use Tesla chargers in the future. Thanks for watching the video. I also know that Tesla and Hyundai are working on allowing 800 V architecture cars to charge at full speed. I paid around 36k after Hyundai money and Colorado tax credit. I am very happy!

[@frankcoffey]

@@electricprincipal543 That is a good deal! Colorado has a lot more credits than Texas.

[@whattheschmidt]

@@electricprincipal543 You'll get to use V4 Tesla chargers in the future for sure, there are only a few now but I bet they will accelerate that progress heavily this year and next. I expect a lot of V2 locations to be upgraded to V4 (busy ones at least!).

[@RandySeverino]

Why are Tesla chargers so slow? , Electrify America sucks, but when they work, I can get 150 KWH and go form 10% to 80% in 25 min.