My Issue With Fireflop Vs Crit Dps Comparsions

[@XxPlatinumChief]

Theres nothing wrong with our firefly she cooks and thats all that maatters that 0 cycling mindset really destroyed the game i see.

[@MiZZpe1l3d]

@@XxPlatinumChief First of all, 0 cycling mindset doesn’t “destroy” the game. It destroys how you see the game. There’s nothing wrong in trying to min-max. If you don’t like the mentality, do keep your distance. Otherwise, it’ll live rent free in your head.

[@zakariamimouni279]

man the firefly hate is so forced

[@Grayewicked]

It is, because she's always been an easy target. • She's a well-loved unit. • Top-tier DPS for a niche with low investment, which will inevitably irk CCs who "take the meta seriously" for their content who has to spend money. • "Negative engagement is still engagement" mindset among CCs, exceptionally prevalent among those around a certain bald human.

[@fuckingtiredloll]

I think Firefly love is just AS forced, half the people that enjoy her don't understand her lore, nor her kit, they're just told to build break and leave it at that, I think she's cool but oh my God does she also heavily rely on a Harmony Support, and so does Rappa, Jing Yuan, ect. It's a really annoying playstyle that only became annoying when people show nothing but Firefly and HTB, also the gameplay is so repetitive with her that there is like no enjoyment in using her creatively

[@kpkazan]

​@Grayewicked Some FF fans have been bullying other break characters with the introduction of fugue in beta too (Mainly bullying Boothill players) -- There's always the few that ruin it for everyone

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

@@kpkazan You act as if that was exclusive to them when for the past 2 patches these pathetic Hunt meta chasers were getting on everyone's nerves with how stupid they are

[@shamimhossain9796]

No she completely deserves the hate

[@DESTROYEROFGOD5]

Its the 0 clycing brainrot. I suggest people start 0 clycling on showers, their jobs and maybe some grass. Its really silly seeing people constantly giving themselves problems over pixels that have 0 impact on their life outside the game

[@fbi-chan9032]

Is he mad that firefly is a op unit because i dont see why he hates her 😂

[@KyleTheAddict]

People aren't able to think critically. It's really simple, with minor (E0S0) and moderate (E2S1) investment Firefly is a comfortable unit that has high levels of versatility and some niche benefits that can lead to being able to utilize her in interesting and fun comps and situations. She's tankier than most DPS, she has more built in Eff Res than most DPS, her Fire Implant from hitting is counted as a debuff which means it can stack for Acheron, she helps enable JQ and Lingsha and on and on. She's a worthwhile pull at E0 literally as a utility character, not even just as a DPS. Whether the people who become completely unhinged about her are joking or not, they are enabling the people who aren't, a majority of which are children who attach their actual self-worth to the power level of their character and it just enables weird behavior. Not a fan.

[@zakariamimouni279]

yeah it's really insane how people forget that even if she deals 0 dmg, just having that fire implant enables her to spear head any fire break team, if they ever release a Fire Hunt that deals a lot of toughness dmg but is a crit DPS, you just run him with her and he deals his dmg + passive SB dmg

[@BrOmar.]

Ok what her implant is strong yes but running her with Acheron as a stack generator is insane ??? I agree she does enable Lingsha but she really isnt versatile being glued to super break and say we get another break dps who is fire that unit has to have a implant or they will just not be good

[@Grayewicked]

​@@BrOmar. "Glued to Super Break" As if that's a bad thing. Brother that's her niche, not everyone has to Crit or FUA. Units can simply just be a master of one.

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

​​@@BrOmar.No way a break character made for break teams? Ground breaking my man you act as if crit characters were used for anything other than crit, that opinion holds no value here

[@KyleTheAddict]

@@BrOmar. Respectfully, I think this is a problem with the HSR community in general being unwilling to think outside the box. I'm not saying you necessarily will always get the best output from trying wonky comps, but frequently enough you will at least get similar results and sometimes they will in fact be better. Imagine you are wanting to run Acheron + JQ into enemies that aren't Fire weak and especially aren't Lightning + Fire weak, sure Acheron may have her omni-Break attached to her ult but it'll likely be rather miserable overall unless you are super whaled. Now imagine you throw Firefly on that team instead of say Pela and now you can happily slot in JQ + Guin or JQ + Galla or JQ + Lingsha and you have an incredibly solid comp. Fugue will be an interesting pick for BOTH Firefly and Acheron in the future as well.

[@kokoro212]

Do most player care about 0 cycle? I don't even bother to spend money or pulls just to get 3 star on the highest difficulty. Plus I already experience what is like to use an e6s5 characters on private server. Missing 160 jades in 40 days not a big deal. I'd rather stock my fridge with steaks or buy high quality console's/PC games than buying 1 fricking character for a game that I can't even play without internet. Im very happy with feixiao robin's team with garbage relics. Firefly ruan mei is another best team that doesn't care about relics.

[@Leo-np7sf]

The only TC i listen to every advice is Eango, bro is always two steps ahead of everyone

[@Zoeila]

people hate firefly because she keeps getting support while other archetypes languish

[@HappyDenkou]

boothill is for the real ones that never got buffs for their blade or jingliu. We chose a king to lead us into battle and we will stand by him forever. Your general our cowboy. holy im cringe

[@crowing3886]

Fugue buffs the fuck out of boothill though.

[@HappyDenkou]

@@crowing3886 indeed

[@Grayewicked]

I disagree, both Boothill and Firefly are safe investments for Super Break. He'll shine with any Super Break support, much like every Super Break DPS, but even more with a Physical support for his implant.

[@caramelpancakes2]

@@Grayewicked aint that deep bro just enjoy the bootycheeks

[@fuckingtiredloll]

Amphoreus PLEASE give us HP units so we can have HP supports so my Blade and Jingliu can either get buffed or replaced

[@mariokungfu2216]

If we go off a standard Firefly Superbreak team of her, HMC, Ruan Mei, and Gallagher/Lingsha. A 2/3 cost team which is very obtainable for players, the team at middling-high relic investment gets 0-2 cycles on Moc, maybe 3 on really high toughness bosses, it isn’t the best at pure fiction, and does pretty well at Apoc Shadow. For now, the team is doing really well even if it can’t always 0 cycle. Firefly will obviously fall off eventually like most DPS do but for now she’s still very good. I wouldn’t pick her up on rerun unless we see that the 3.0/3.1 DPSes are bad but if you have her already, she’ll get the job done for a while

[@jmcMateo]

I kinda wanted her for brain dead brute forcing plus implant. I don't have any 5* break dps

[@mariokungfu2216]

@@jmcMateo If you like her, get her. She should do good enough for the next few months

[@N-thinghappeninghere]

Yea Im just building a premium team for her along with Acheron so then I can form actual teams I want. They are basically gonna be my triumph cards

[@quockhanh5740]

the point is that Firefly doesn't scale too well with better relics. Even giving her the perfect rolls can't help her 0 cycle in some cases, while this isn't the case for other dps units. The only way that is going to improve her performance is to vertically invest in her teams.

[@koko-hh2bq]

I'd take a unit who can't 0 cycle but can at least consistently 1-2 cycle over a unit who can 0 cycle but is at risk of getting you 4-5 cycles any day. But that's just me

[@Ilikegames804]

@@koko-hh2bq 0 cycle brainrot has ruined people's perception of power in this game.

[@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop1464]

The cost system of 0 cycles needs to be overhauled since people are just slapping on multiple S5 DDDs on 4*s and making it seem more attainable vs getting a meta support or lightcone. Worst case scenario it takes 150 pulls to get a character. Smart people have done the math that it takes over 200 pulls to guarantee (100% chance) a specific S5 4* light cone.

[@voidbg7017]

Can't wait for my JY to get fixed with Sunday

[@XenogearsPS]

Same, I was going to skip Sunday, but then I saw that he will fix her. Now he’s a must pull.

[@lickilicky5288]

apparently he will still be kinda mid from what gameplay ive seen of jy robin sunday and sparkle

[@AkameRevenge1866]

@@lickilicky5288 Well he can be a t1 dps maybe

[@lickilicky5288]

@@AkameRevenge1866 t1 with that expensive ass team is crazy works

[@GabeIG]

6:40 that chick literally uses the most unobtainable relics ever even for launch players just to prove a character is better than firefly at max potential 💀or doing 0 av in AS with e6s5 5 stars and proclaiming herself as the best player in a gacha singleplayer game 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@fuckingtiredloll]

She actually does have a real account that she uses, just not for the showcases, the point of the videos is to outline that Firefly is beyond overhyped and honestly not worth that much investment as other units

[@justincross2212]

Tbh, I pulled Rappa so I can have her and Boothill to be my go to break dps characters and NOT Firefly because I hate how hoyo shoves her character so much storywise and metawise

[@GabeIG]

lmao ok

[@dokcs9943]

Firefly eating good because of linghsa and fugue

[@shadowbreadd9505]

@@GabeIG lmao ok

[@youremotionalsupport194]

FF gameplay is just press E. And more E. Especially at E1 and above. Just spam more E. Lol

[@narkoteks]

basically every hypercarry lol

[@Bladissey]

Whats up man? hope you've been well mentally. did you see the rerun leaks? I'd like to know your thoughts on Jing yuan and fireflop reruns. i'm pretty excited for 2.7

[@NoroDaitsuki]

Overall, I agree with what you said. Firefly are the type of dps who has higher floor but lower celling, if you want comfort then you should get her. That why eventho Im a big boothill fan and boothill e2 owner, I always tell people to get firefly if you want an easier time and not having to actually have to use your brain and time his skill and ult. On the other hand, I also have a lot of problem with those crit dps 0 cycle videos, like you said where you need a crazy amount of cr and cd to achieve what was show in the videos. There are too much glazing for certain dps for example archeron, yes she is strong but to a degree (She lose a lot of damage without things like her lc and a good support like jiaoqiu). There are so much comments on 0 cycle videos of other character saying that "***My*** archeron can 0 cycle that moc just fine" or "***My*** archeron can do over 1M damage" and they proceed to say that their archeron has some ridiculous number of crit like 80/240 with some crazy support like e2 sparkle and show her damage on 5 targets.

[@MiZZpe1l3d]

I actually agree with you. At average level of relic investment, Firefly is actually like top 2. She's flexible in all content (don't use her in PF if you don't have Himeko. It's not fun). It should be noted that there's actually a boss that nullifies a Super Break mechanic entirely in AS, so that could hinder her performance in AS in the future (they already did it once. absolutely no reason why they wouldn't do it again.) The reason why Fireflop a$$ agenda is being pushed so much is due to how bad she relies on the supports it's almost like she desperately needs them, but they don't actually need her. In fact, the supports are so broken they can leave her collecting dust and start 0 cycling themselves at certain level of relic investment. Speaking of Relic investment, she also scales really badly with relics. She gains diminishingly with relics due to her scaling off of break effect, and she has next-to-zero speedtuning potential, which is why she is worse than, say, Boothim or Goatpa. You also mentioned Fugue in the video. Firefly is probably the one who wins the least off of her releasing unless she's E2. She doesn't gain anything special unlike Boothim with his ramp ups and Goatpa her, well, entire kit. Well, it may look like I come out as a Firefly hater. Trust me I'm not. It's just really important to point it out.

[@mohammadomar2218]

Actually superbreak team in order to be op doesn't rely on anyone... it's only like firefly is the perfect superbreak enabler..just like Kafka in dot and the is the real value of firefly...you can take firefly ruan mai fugue and lingsha through any content any circumstances no matter the enemy no matter the weakness type... you know you gonna guarantee to break and it's going to be faster than any team without firefly...sure you can use rappa or boothill to break but you know you won't win the versatility game.

[@MiZZpe1l3d]

@@mohammadomar2218 Well, Super Break isn’t really a team without someone like HMC or Fugue, so the notion that suggests Super Break not needing any specific units to perform just isn’t true. And, yes, Firefly’s main strength has always been the versatility she provides. I even mentioned it in the comment. That being said, whether or not Firefly is the best DPS versatility speaking is up for a debate. My point is the fact that she’s weaker compared to her contemporaries due to her scaling poorly with relics and having bad speedtuning strategy. Edit: This is as far as min-maxing is concerned, though. Don’t take it too seriously if you’re casually playing the game.

[@Steel12able]

@@mohammadomar2218 brother she is not a enabler. HMC is . HMC can make all team mates do superbreak. You put FF on a team without HMC shes the only one doing superbreak BIG difference

[@mohammadomar2218]

@@Steel12able I didn't mean it that way...by enabling i mean expose the enemy by destroying the toughness bar so fast...that where everbody start to do superbreak dmg...and with the release of fuge the whole team is officially gonna do decent dmg just lik the fua so the point of the dmg ceilling of firefly have no relevance and only pointless comparison...the real break meta comparison is how fast you break the toughness bar and how you synergies with the rest of the team doing so.

[@mariokungfu2216]

It’s not Firefly is a bad DPS but she isn’t good at 0 cycling because she doesn’t mid-max with relics that well and you can’t optimize her speed rotation that much. She still consistently gets 1-2 in her standard team tho so she’s a good dps

[@jmcMateo]

King yuan is our general. buttfly is not!

[@sorakitr9595]

Off topic but instead of running back and forth just run around farming overworld materials instead at least get something out of this yap session

[@Kinger_of_the_circus]

Ruan Mei is that real mvp I don’t see anyone trying to run Super break without her and when they do the damage is super mid

[@set5026]

You forgot to mention that She plays in live servers so She can manipulate not only relics but also LC meaning She can get every single character e6s5,on genshin for example you can manipulate the Dmg your characters do on private server idk about hsr (probably not)but tbh i think noone should take her 0 cycle seriously Simply cause her showcases aren't reachable for anyone even whales doesn't have 177 Speed on triple Wind set 💀.Edit: forgot to mention in fact when She does live servers showcase the cost She has on acherons teams or fei teams are above 8 cost but complains about FF if She 4/5 cost against a boss.

[@jmcMateo]

Despite me being a firefly hater I will join her bandwagon and pull her on rerun anyways. Only been playing for a few months so firefly will help me brute force content faster until I can actually get good relics and characters.

[@dayrozo]

she is arguably the most powerful and versatile dps in the game at E0S0 bro, how can you say "pull her until I get good characters" 😭 (acheron requires her LC and good relics + specific team, feixiao premium team is expensive af)

[@georgecs2026]

I think you completely misunderstood the point of those 0-cycle showcases. No one compares high relic investment Boothil/Acheron to low relic investment FF. They showcase (not talking about Xolze Telos exclusively) all DPS with good relics and speed tuning, and FF's performance was very lackluster. Her 0 cycles on 0% fire RES Aventurine and fire weak Hoolay require E1 RM and Linghsa on top of S10 DDD and high relic quality, while also losing to Rappa, Acheron, Himeko, and Lingsha on 3-5 target bosses with the same investments. That's some of the reasons why FF gets meme'd on, because a T0 unit shouldn't have those kinds of weaknesses.

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

That's a stupid argument, saying her preformance is lackluster because she can't 0 cycle a one or 2 bosses in the entire game without significant investment is suppose to have any merit? That is very ignorant argument. If we are to take that as metric than show me boothill 0 cycle againist new 2.6 boss once it releases at lower investment than FF

[@georgecs2026]

@@PabloRodriguezreal I just gave two very easy to understand examples because these are the bosses in previous and current MOC cycles. I'm not ignorant, I've tried to find a FF 0 cycle that other characters can't do better, and I couldn't find any. As for the new 2.6 boss, it's the same exact situation again Feixiao, Acheron, and Rappa 0 cycled at much lower investments. You're right about Boothil though, he can't brute force off-element 5-target bosses with low toughness.

[@YumiSumire]

what is this? Every DPS has one or two weakness buddy. They can't 0-cycle every content.

[@caramelpancakes2]

@@YumiSumire real one

[@silvercloud5344]

…. Did yall missed the part when bro said ff is getting MEMED on for that. 😂

[@Josh-xd7jc]

Yknow I so agree with this but unfortunately I’m a mono quantum and more specificity seele enjoyer so I’m bricked. Lmao

[@Pack52022]

When did the firefly hate come by is she not a top unit in this game?

[@Masked_Kiddo]

What is that pet following you? I play from the time the game released but its my first time seeing it.

[@ayasolaris4971]

why is yunli not mentioned in the convo? Shes good in all games modes

[@Destined2BeKing]

She’s like Argenti during 1.5-2.1, viable option for clearing endgame content, yet not talked about due to not being at the very top of the meta.

[@BailuGaming]

@@Destined2BeKing even tho she is at the very top closed to Ratio if not better as she is good for all 3 gamemodes.

[@jmcMateo]

I started her banner and didn't pull. I only pulled for 4* stars to beat early mid game

[@ayasolaris4971]

@@jmcMateo nice I do recommend getting atleast one 5* sustain like aventurine or huohuo for new accounts. Super helpful

[@jmcMateo]

@@ayasolaris4971 I have lingsha as my only limited

[@XenogearsPS]

Firefly is great. I just mute her 🤣. They all get powercrept anyways. Off topic, but Jingliu might make a comeback, I can’t wait for Sunday.

[@eblu3961]

If by comeback you mean playable, sure. Far from new dps performance tho, her best hit was around 200k with Sunday and Ruan Mei. Feixiao hits lot harder while having just Robin, and sub-dps that quite a bit of dmg too. 3-5 cycles at e0s0 with Jingliu, Sunday, Ruan Mei, Sustain

[@XenogearsPS]

@@eblu3961 good enough! I haven’t used her in a long time.

[@JoxTheMash29]

Thankfully, I started around Robin's banner which enabled me to pull for FF and BH with as many pulls as possible (freebies from story and gift of odysseys and events). I now have E0S1 BH and E2S2 FF (Decided to spend money on the game on her banner) and also got E1S1 Ruan Mei. Recently got Feixiao at E0S1 and E0S0 Topaz and Robin. I'm now waiting for Aventurine since I have him on guarantee after I lost my 50/50 on Lingsha's banner to get his E0S0, which would complete my FUA team. I'll probably get E0 Sunday to prepare for next meta and E1 Fugue at minimum as an upgrade to improve my FF/BH team.

[@mohammadomar2218]

Seem like good plan you got going on there.

[@Grayewicked]

You're actually dead set for at least 1 or even 2 versions 😂

[@JoxTheMash29]

@@Grayewicked That's the plan hehe, since my plan is to wait out until the next top DPS in 3.X (which is likely gonna be a summon meta DPS) and save my pulls. It will also put me in a good spot to vertical invest into Sunday in future reruns if the summon meta sees its Acheron-level DPS.

[@jakit0556]

Xolze telos also break needs to be irradiated as a dps type

[@kumalanimbus6995]

Your first mistake is watching Xolze's videos about Firefly

[@floghon5984]

btw e6 boothill is a destruction character

[@jmcMateo]

Gacha game is gacha. You can't always have the resources and characters to showcase the potential or max potential of characters on main account plus you can't take out eidolons after you activate them. Private server is a way to see the potential of characters without having to do on your live account.

[@RerunBladeIPayForE6S5]

JUST GIVE ME MY BLADE RERUN I BEG I HAVE ALL THIS FREAKING MONEY THAT I WANNA SPEND ON MY MANS BUTT HOYO KEEPS BLUE BALLING ME PLEASE JUST TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY I NEED THAT BLADIE E6S5

[@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop1464]

I started hsr during firefly patch and sunk in 200 hours of gameplay to get all of the available f2p jades, had terrible luck losing both 50/50 to FF&RM, so it cost about 350 pulls to get my E0 FF HMC E0S1RM and E6 Gallager team. Within one month of farming relics and talent mats I already had a usable team that could consistently 2/3 cycle a MOC 12 half, 30k PF and get above 3k on AS. Based on statistical simulation from collected pull data. If you pull 100 times on a lc banner, you only have a 36% chance to get a S5 LC. You literally need hundreds of pulls on a banner (and get 3/4 5* LC)to get multiple S5 DDDs. I don't even want to start calculating how much resin you need to get a 177 speed set when firefly is at 90% potential with avg 2 break rolls on each piece. People have literally started 2 month old challenge accounts where they were able to get full stars on all available endgame modes thanks to superbreak.

[@khanhnguyenDK]

I'm questioning the place the meta has in the game. The competition can be fun when you see impressive runs or wacky set up but ultimately it's all made up. You play gacha games to see your favorite characters do big damage and win. People are shitting on ff fans for "coping for their waifu" like they don't do the same for Acheron, Boothill and all the other ones. But the categories are all made up. Please keep the jokes lite heard and don't ragebait too much it's annoying

[@LoreleiComplex]

Slandering Xolze is insane. As a good friend of hers, I understand why you'd be a little upset but to call someone out for showing the potential and clear ceiling of units/teams is a bit childish, her clears are to show what is possible and to make what she calls 'the impossible, possible".

[@JohnStevenBacube]

Firefly is so boring gameplay wise

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

Subjective opinion, doesn't change facts

[@2crisp63]

which characters do you fine fun, just curious?

[@youremotionalsupport194]

Uh oh. You going to trigger the firefly fans. "How dare you speak I'll of my firewife"

[@lickilicky5288]

ok? that has something to do with this argument apparently?

[@sekaiforfun]

yea she is boring to me too

[@BrOmar.]

I just don’t think any dps is worth getting on their rerun unless u just stated the game that patch it’s always better to get a new better dps than a rerun unless u going for an e2 the new shiny toy is always better in these games say firefly reruns next patch I’d say skip and wait for 3.0 as there would probably be some sort of power creep moving forward

[@Cadmun]

Xolze Telos is one of the best and knowledgeable content creators in the HSR space. Firefly is labeled a fraud because HMC contributes 60-70% of the teams damage. You can take Firefly out of the traditional break team and you’ll barely notice the difference. Add Himeko and you’ll get similar clears. 4:05 Himeko will surpass Firefly after Fugue’s release. Rappa has already surpassed her even against bosses created for Firefly.

[@zakariamimouni279]

she has a fire implant, Himeko is out of the equation the moment you the enemy isn't fire weak, Himeko + Fugue will be better than Firefly in a Fire weak stage that looks like puppets and that's about it, the good thing about Firefly is that you can use her against anything, unless they release a fire resistant enemy

[@Cadmun]

@@zakariamimouni279 she has fire implant on a single enemy. Have you ever tried FF in content where there’s no Fire weakness? The implant helps but still feels bad. Fugue benefits Himeko and Boothill the most. Himeko gets extra follow ups, and Boothill gets a dedicated support. Bleed DOT from break is the strongest in HSR. FF will continue to fall behind over time.

[@MiZZpe1l3d]

@@Cadmun Fugue actually benefits Rappa a lot as well. The stacks she gets from breaking is actually a 2.5 times damage she would normally do without them.

[@Grayewicked]

​@@Cadmun ...you do realize that colorless breaking is still inefficient as opposed to matching Type breaks? Also, do you realize that Firefly can also Fire weakness implant FOR Fugue, something that Boothill and Rappa cannot provide?

[@Cadmun]

@@Grayewicked if true, tell me, why is Rappa currently either matching or clearing current MOC faster than Firefly? Against bosses specifically made to compliment FF?

[@elia0162]

fireflop could never!! rappa is doing rappilion amount of damagge

[@floghon5984]

Fugue needs a buff

[@otashu9176]

new player,started during fireflop's banner and pulled her e2 + e0 rm,she clears everything on full auto and im a happy man.0 cycle tryhards who manual everything and salivate over cost system are just...weird

[@koko-hh2bq]

It's especially weird when 0 cycling isnt even rewarded; it's just for fun. Yet people treat it so seriously to the point of spreading literal misinformation on a unit who has been consistently doing amazing since her release. A new/casual player (which is like 90% of the playerbase) wouldn't care about 0 cycling, they'd likely care more about which character is the comfiest to use at a low investment while still providing really good performance, and Firefly fits that criteria perfectly. Doesn't matter if it feels bad 0 cycling as her since even at her worst, she will get you 2-3 cycles tops, 4 if you severely mess up. All of this while using free or easy-to-obtain characters like HTB and Gallagher.

[@Vrsds]

It's just the stupidity of some players. Silverwolf was considered the most future proof character and a must have on release. Others were cursing me in the comments back then because I wrote that I skipped her because I prefer the Bronia and Tingyun duo with Seele. Now Silverwolf is nowhere and Seele a 1.0 unit can still clear content and even 0 cycle. Jingliu was considered the Dps queen along with Lunae. Players were saying that her numbers are amazing. Now players say, that she has very low numbers and has been turned into a joke. Robin was considered as weaker Ruan Mai because of her follow up buff. Now Robin is considered the best support unit except for brake teams ( Ruan Mai for those). Everyone was cursing me when I skipped FF for Jade. Jade was considered an only Pure Fiction character and a Mommy bait (even though Kafka turned out to be just that and no one said anything bad at her at the time). Now Jade is meta ( 0 cycle with a Team of Seele, Robin, Jade and Adventurine and other teams) ,while players argue that FF is now a bad character because she didn't 0 Cycle, one time since her release. Also I should better not talk about Himiko, back then and now. I already wrote too much. The thing that this players don't consider is that hsr is a not competitive game. And the "meta" If you can call it that, is constantly changing. My opinion is to pull and play for the characters you like. And then pull for units that make your favorite characters better.

[@jmcMateo]

@@koko-hh2bqit is rewarded in the. Sense you now have way more cycles for the other side. You have 10 cycle. If you can 0 cycle or 1-2 you have more wiggle room for your weaker side or weaker team though

[@koko-hh2bq]

@@jmcMateo And Firefly does exactly that; give your other team more wiggle room while being very comfy to use. I don't understand how not being able to 0 cycle is a detriment when she is very consistently clearing one side at least 1-2 in her best or 2-3 at her worst in every MoC so far.

[@johnnydeez6953]

Just roll better, no 40 cv relics is a skill issue xd

[@Yoru...]

We all know the boss will alway get buffed and firefly mains will be forced to vertically invest in a unit that only gets better by getting eidolons

[@Nautyormoder]

This is literally all dps, Acheron rn at e0s0 is worse than other team comps at the same investments🤦‍♂️

[@Yoru...]

@@Nautyormoder nah, we all know firefly has worse ceiling than Acheron. Acheron actually one of the higher ceilings. So it's firefly who'll fall off first

[@morningstar8501]

Firefly at e0s0 is absolute dogshit, also if u don’t have Ruan Mei she will straight deal 100k maybe 200k if u got some more buffs. Her human design is mid and her animations are terrible, hoyo gaslit me into liking her. Tbh when I first saw her I thought she was a 12 year old and thought it was weird that everyone was simping for her. But base firefly is dogshit, she only gets good at e1s1 otherwise don’t bother with that shittt character. 100% regret pulling her, should’ve just gotten Ruan Mei Instead and pulled Rappa, cuz Rappa is just better.

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

Ok

[@gameblaster2124]

Another fellow animation hater 🤝

[@teenagesilver6512]

🤓

[@gameblaster2124]

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[@teenagesilver6512]

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[@capedcluckles]

Xolze Telos is our omnipotent queen, how dare you!!! 😡😡😡

[@teenagesilver6512]

it's a dude, womp womp

[@XolzeTelos]

Bro doesn't understand how the cost system is used to judge DPS ceiling

[@KyleTheAddict]

That's because the entire cost system as it stands currently is a complete and total joke. I know you're dented, but assigning 0 cost to an S5 DDD doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Neither from a "fun" perspective trying to see interesting and innovative team comps, nor from an actual logical perspective of how many pulls and investment it takes to achieve. While we're here, an E6 4* character being 0 points or a base banner 5* being 0 points are also a joke. Throwing Bronya LC on a character and saying "S0" isn't nearly as crafty as you think it is either. Another humorous thing I've noticed (Which I'm not entirely sure if you support or not, no idea as I stopped watching your videos after I saw a few using the scuffed point system and completely misrepresenting the reality of certain situations) is the idea that Firefly is Hoyo's favorite and she's gotten so many dedicated supports and the Relic set was made just for her and on and on... yet you all revel in how "useless" she is. Yet you are the same people who cried relentlessly about people "doomposting" Firefly and constantly whined about how Boothill needs the Relic set to fit him more and needs more buffs, etc. You can't have it both ways, that's not how this works. The only reason you don't get called out is because you are insignificantly tiny in the TC/creator community and more importantly because most people think your entire shtick is still just a joke. Maybe it is, if it is I think you've pushed the parody far enough that most people don't find it funny anymore, just irritating as it more or less insists on itself. If you actually are this unhinged though, definitely seek mental help. Either way, not going to bother with you more than that. You enjoy your multiple "0 cost S5 DDD's" that haven't been on a LC banner in 14 banners. Yawn.

[@Akagami0770]

​@@KyleTheAddictGood Essay

[@PabloRodriguezreal]

Anything above E0 is unnecessary so why does it matter?

[@ShinyJarachi]

What are you doing here??

[@Testerossa]

You even disprove your own point by doing a 1 cost FF clear on choir. It can’t get more embarrassing than this.