"My Lectric XPeak High Step Wobble GONE"

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Gary’s E-Bike Adventures

Gary’s E-Bike Adventures

Күн бұрын

In this video, I uncover the truth about the wobble on my Lectric XPeak High Step electric bike. After some investigation, I found out that I do indeed have the infamous wobble that many riders have experienced. Join me as I share my experience and how I plan to address this issue.
I Found the solutions to the XPeak bike problem.

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@AKing99
@AKing99 9 ай бұрын
This is what we love about you Gary, the investigation, discovery of a viable solution and the implementation ❤. Keep up the great work man! You rock Gary 🎉
@kenwhelan-g6o
@kenwhelan-g6o 9 ай бұрын
Hi Gary, thanks for all your efforts. We have two Lectric XPeak step through bikes. Was able to tune out most of the wobble on my bike by tuning the suspension. I was carrying 10 lbs in rear. I'm 185 lbs but my wife at 125 lbs has a real problem with wobble having 8 lbs on the rear rack. I solved some of her wobble which occur at 8mph by stiffening up the suspension but we don't feel the bike is safe. Called Cane Creak and they recommended the Hellbender 70 Visco top only. Ordered one for each bike and we will see how it works. Will keep you posted. Just subscribed, please keep up the good work. Also called Lectric and customer service says they know about the problem but have no idea when it will be addressed. I have always found them to be very responsive but I not willing to wait. Hope this works.
@gtijow
@gtijow 4 ай бұрын
I just bought the XPEAK and I am going through this issue . Did this fix the wobble ?
@EldwynBranchSr
@EldwynBranchSr 9 ай бұрын
Gary you are the man !!! Lectric should realize you saved their company. Hope they reward you properly.!!! Thanks so much .
@bodurango
@bodurango 9 ай бұрын
Ordered an XPeak step-through, but then became aware of the wobble issue. It would be wonderful if the headset dampener also works on the Step Thru. I'll be watching your channel closely to find out. Congrats and thanks to the genius inventor of the Hellbender.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I actually had somebody comment that said they have two Step-Tru XPeaks and they did my fix and they said it work great no wobble at all now
@jlopez102
@jlopez102 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Gary. I’m going to ask Lectric to pay for this part. I don’t feel safe riding my step through with the death wobble.
@kristirudolph7504
@kristirudolph7504 6 ай бұрын
So did they send you one?
@jlopez102
@jlopez102 6 ай бұрын
@@kristirudolph7504 They didn't. Instead they sent me saddlebags.
@russellreed2073
@russellreed2073 9 ай бұрын
Gary very impressive video you need to post this on the group I have two step thoughs my wife's seems fine mine has the wobble but it's doable but after watching your video I will be installing this headset on both bikes when I get a chance I will have a shop do the work thanks for the video
@haroldcampbell2897
@haroldcampbell2897 11 күн бұрын
Thank you so much Gary. I have the X Peak step thru and was racking my brain trying to figure out the cause of the wobble. After purchasing and installing the upper and lower visco bearings, it fixed the problem. Now it rides like a finely tuned bike.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 11 күн бұрын
@@haroldcampbell2897 you’re welcome. I have the X peak 2.0 coming soon so I can’t wait to test that one out. I rode it in Arizona no wobbles, but I want the step thru this time. I’m hoping they send it to me and not the step over but I guess I’ll be grateful for whatever they send.
@connorbrown7606
@connorbrown7606 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video, Gary! Looking forward to getting this bike and installing the upgraded parts
@Altema22
@Altema22 9 ай бұрын
You just became my hero! I have a RadMini with dual Tesla batteries, and when I carry a load on the back I get a mild oscillation like this. I had planned an external damper, but with the brackets on the bike frame and fork it was not going to be pretty! Thank you so much, and hopefully they have my size.
@richkraft8709
@richkraft8709 9 ай бұрын
Awesome Gary great that you have that issue behind such a simple fix 😊
@Tinman710
@Tinman710 9 ай бұрын
I don’t even have the Xpeak but I’ve been interested in what the company would do about it. Looks like you beat them to it. Subbed! Really nice work dude.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Well, you gotta understand from a company aspect 1st you have to admit there’s a problem.then your liable 😀 Thanks for watching
@Ebiketips1
@Ebiketips1 9 ай бұрын
Well done Gary👍. I can’t wait to see your next review/repair! 🚴
@MontroseCo-d7c
@MontroseCo-d7c 3 ай бұрын
Haven't gotten mine yet but watching various blogs and I'm learning volumes. Gary, good info
@ebikenation
@ebikenation 9 ай бұрын
That is a fantastic video! I am going to order those from cane creek. The Hellbender 70 looks like the right fix for any wobble problem that may occur. To all of you viewers and subscribers that watch this channel, pay attention to how talented Gary is on problem solving.
@robertcarazo8839
@robertcarazo8839 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing I like the xpeak. Will be my second Ebike at some point. But first need to put miles on the 3.0 this spring and learn. Stay safe 👍✌️
@ebikenation
@ebikenation 9 ай бұрын
You have a good point about the slime and flat out causing a little wobble in the bike.
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 9 ай бұрын
Yea i have noticed this too, with flat out. It can really depend on the tires. If they have a lightweight side wall, its easier for them to wobble it seems. But if you have good tires, you shouldn’t feel the flat out. For example I had a lot of problems with flat out in Vee speedsters, but Arisun Big Snoothy 26 work fine. Make sure its the sportsman formula, its more runny, The multi purpose stuff is more clumpy.
@ebikenation
@ebikenation 9 ай бұрын
Did you change your name? If you did I really like it
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
@seniorebikenation I used to be Gary’s DIY adventures but I changed it to Garys E bike adventures along time ago.
@ebikenation
@ebikenation 9 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures your answer says @EBikeBuilder Just wondered
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
@@ebikenation no, that’s another creator 😀
@bodurango
@bodurango 8 ай бұрын
My Experience: No wobble on the Step-Thru with Hellbender Dampener. Read on for details. After watching this video I decided to take a chance and install the Hellbender Dampener on my brand new Xpeak Step Thru. I did this immediately upon receiving the bike. The dampener was installed by my local bike shop. Just now I did a test drive with the dampener installed. I mounted a rear basket (5 lbs) and carried 36 lbs of rocks. This weight was in addition to the pre-installed rack on the back of the bike. Important notes: I did not use any front basket because I don't have one on hand. Maybe the results would have been different with weight in the front. Also, I would not recommend carrying that amount of weight on any bike. It gets pretty unstable and tippy, especially with the weight up high in the basket. I rode throttle only, PAS 5, and got up to 20mph. I experienced virtually no wobble. There were some moments when I thought I detected a slight wobble, but they seemed to be short lived and tolerable. Spex: Cane Creek Hellbender 70 Visco, Top Assembly, ZS44/28.6/H13.5, Mid Tune, Model BAA2187K. Thanks to whoever invented this gizmo !
@gtijow
@gtijow 4 ай бұрын
So i have the same bike as you and with no dampener installed ...I have a basket / rack on the back and I ride with my spare battery in the basket and a small messenger bag filled with stuff . I have a really dangerous wobble like this . I cant ride with no hands because i have to be planted on the seat and hands gripping the handlebar for dear life . one bump while riding will completely throw all the balance of the bike off and this thing becomes so dangerous to ride within a split second it goes wild wobbling . I would like you to try riding at speed and shaking the handlebars left and right a couple inches . If I do this right now my bike goes into a violent death wobble . Please try this out and let me know if there is any wobble with the part you had installed . Ride at speed and shake the handlebars left and right and i think this would be a good test to see if this product works . Sorry for a long winded comment but I dont know what to do at this point . I wanted to get rid of the bike because of this issue but i cant sell this thing to someone knowing they are going to eat %$#@ riding it . the wobble is so bad on these lectric stepthrough xpeaks that ive been questioning the integrity of the welding at the bottom of the frame because eventually that wobble is going to keep testing that weld and its going to weaken and break and if that happens at speed then lectric lawsuit comes into play . How did this get past their R&D team ? LOL WHO SIGNED OFF ON THIS BIKE TO BE SOLD LIKE THIS ?
@boisvertra
@boisvertra 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. Gary shows the Cane Creek video for the "dampener" or Visco, but it sure looks like he installed a standard (as in non-dampener, non-Visco) Hellbender 70 complete headset kit. What gives?
@stephanearl1440
@stephanearl1440 6 ай бұрын
Great video Gary! Got my Xpeak yesterday, set it up and away I went. My first bike in many years and I love it! I haven't experienced "the death wobble" but know what to do if it happens. Thanks!
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 9 ай бұрын
Nice Gary, good find with that headset! I’ve never seen that before, interesting. It seems to work really good, who would have known some metal plates in the headset could fix that crazy wobble. Nice work Gary
@roysharp8522
@roysharp8522 5 ай бұрын
The step through was unrideable out of the box with the wobble (no basket) I installed the cane creek headset and it mostly fixed the issue. The rear large basket is still too top heavy, but I loaded 40 lbs of groceries in the panniers with no issue Lectric customer service was great. They refunded my order for the rack as well as the cost of the headset replacement (just had to send the receipt)
@JamesJohnston-p3v
@JamesJohnston-p3v 9 ай бұрын
Action Ride Shop in Mesa AZ installed Cane Creek Visco headset on our Lectric XPeak Step through to resolve wobble issues. Tested XPeak with front rack and rear basket mounted to confirm wobble eliminated. Went with Cane Creek Visco on bottom and HellBender 70 on top.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Awesome I’m so happy to hear I couldn’t convince Lectric to send me a used step-through so I could try it. I’d like it shot it fixing the pedal problem too. Again awesome guy. I’m going to shut it out to as many people as I can. Thank you for letting me know.
@rolandgadue4351
@rolandgadue4351 9 ай бұрын
Where is the link where you bought the headset?
@stevecumming6427
@stevecumming6427 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I did a conversion on a threaded head bearing set as couldn't find a quill stem to get rid of a damaged giraffe folding stem & couldn't find anything to work. Got 26" air shock forks with a star nut for a stem riser & BMX type stem & bars. The Mission Conversion headset found looks like it should work.
@terryrccrazy6993
@terryrccrazy6993 9 ай бұрын
Wow. Great job, that is amazing
@dr.arnoldbenitez5642
@dr.arnoldbenitez5642 2 ай бұрын
Gary, help me, did you find out how to make the wobble stop on the Step-Thru go away, please. Should I return it back?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 2 ай бұрын
@@dr.arnoldbenitez5642 please email me gary@garysebikeadventures.com
@sidsteverson1005
@sidsteverson1005 4 ай бұрын
Been looking for months on a solution. Thanks Gary
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 4 ай бұрын
@@sidsteverson1005 the only problem is you might have a hard time finding the bearing Wired bikes has bought up everyone they could buy, but try on Amazon. I’ve had luck on there
@quintonhudson6490
@quintonhudson6490 9 ай бұрын
You should be a consultant for them great job 👍🏻
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I’m trying real hard, Quinton 😁
@bernfeltham1684
@bernfeltham1684 5 ай бұрын
he is
@BretHazlett
@BretHazlett 7 ай бұрын
New subscriber here ,waiting for my Xpeak high step. Very pleased I’ve found you!
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
You’re going to love it. Any questions just ask. And thanks for subscribing.
@shalombenzaquen6659
@shalombenzaquen6659 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you. I wonder if you had a chance to test this with the xpeak step thru
@blown9646
@blown9646 9 ай бұрын
Nice collection and good vid Gary, keep up the great work.
@_80210
@_80210 9 ай бұрын
Have you talked yet with Lectric about your test results? I have been interested in buying the XPeak since it's release, but I put that on hold after seeing all the wobble issue riders were experiencing. I'm interested to see if Lectric fixes this. I don't feel that it should be the customers responsibility to putchase something to fix the problem. Will this fix also work with other sets of handlebars if I wanted to swap them out on a XPeak? Thank you for being tenacious! I sure hope this was the the ultimate cure.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I am actually in contact with Lectric. and you can put any handlebars you want on it with the set up
@blown9646
@blown9646 9 ай бұрын
So many good choices out there, great to have options.
@_80210
@_80210 9 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks for your response, Gary. Is Lectric committed to adding the required part needed on the XPeak from this point forward to be able to fix/stop the wobble?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
@@_80210 not sure their claiming the complaints are minimal for the amount of bikes sent out.
@_80210
@_80210 9 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks, Gary. I've seen enough of the wobble issue from others here on KZbin for me to pause and give hesitation. I'm going to look more into the Wired Freedom and the soon to be released ECell Five Star. Both have bigger batteries, bigger motors, duel suspension and from what I can tell, no documented wobble issues. Thanks again. I really enjoy your informative videos!
@InvisibleCitizen
@InvisibleCitizen 9 ай бұрын
Great Job Gary!
@cellsafemode
@cellsafemode 9 ай бұрын
good luck with the step thru. you feel that thing bend and flex behind your seat in addition to the vibration impacting the steering. my step thru is all packaged up to be returned already so I'm fully done. might be something to consider for my step over though.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I would rather have a step through, but I ordered this in a step over because they all flex I was hoping with the mountain bike rating that it wouldn’t, but I knew in my heart that it would I have five step throughs they all have the same problem with the flex not wobbling though one did have a wobble, but I put a steering damper for a motorcycle on it I think this is a much better fix than having that ugly thing on the bike
@cellsafemode
@cellsafemode 9 ай бұрын
​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures flex, sure. I'd expect some too. the xpeak seems to resonate though... with the frame vibration just building on top of itself making tiny vibrations become much larger and extend for a longer time. mimicking speed wobble. a headset damper might kill the resonance. might not. Will be interesting to see for those willing to test. i don't see enough qualities in the step thru xpeak to want to hold on to it that hard vs return it. and it still will have front wheel clearance issues that would require playing with the fender to deal with on top of whatever remaining flex issues even if the damper gets wobble under control. I'd rather cut my losses and get a better designed bike that can do what it's advertised to do and what i need it to do.
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 9 ай бұрын
@@cellsafemode good points, while i applaud 👏 the fix Gary has found- i still think…. You shouldn’t have to buy a 100usd headset to fix a design flaw of the bike. Lectric should be thanking Gary for doing their testing for them! I would be interested to see if it fixes the wobble on the step through. I don’t think lectric is going to put a 100usd headset on the bike anytime soon though, maybe they should R&D their own anti wobble headset. Or just design a non wobbling bike in the first placewould be best. But I’m glad that headset solved the problem and Gary is able to ride his bike.
@DM-fp8uw
@DM-fp8uw 7 ай бұрын
Great video. Would have liked to see more of a step by step install.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
As many people that want to see it, I have twice as many that don’t want to see it. I used to do very detailed installations and would get criticized all the time. But I’m more than happy to help people if they ask.
@WyomingRider
@WyomingRider 9 ай бұрын
That's awesome Gary! Great job!
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 4 ай бұрын
Gary, the smallest bump with baskets and my Lectric XPeak step-through takes a horrible wobble. I was lucky not to have fallen off. It is also noticeable starting under peddle power. Now I see it is a known problem, and also your feet hitting the front wheel if peddling around a corner. Congrats on resolving your wobble, but the Cane Creek Hellbender 70 is not currently available. Do you happen to know of any other supplier of a suitable product? In good conscience, without removing the baskets I can no- longer share this bike with my wife. Additionally, FYI, I first installed the Lectric comfort seat with a backrest, before fitting the baskets and it also encourages a mild steering twitch. Can't believe the bike is so sensitive. Excellent videos by the way. Maurice (Pennsylvania, US)
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 4 ай бұрын
@@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 this is the top bearing. This is the one you need to stop the wobble. The other one is a whole set, but you don’t need the whole set. This will do the job and it looks like you get it early August or you could even pay extra to have it shipped in July. amzn.to/3So1W6B
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 4 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Ordered. Gary, thank you so much for the quick response. I like the bike and want my wife to be able to ride it as well.
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 4 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Hi Gary, I fitted the hellbender and it didn't work. Have adjusted tire pressure, locked suspension. Still have a wobble. So annoying. One question I used the factory setting for the hellbender shims. Did you? Also noticed when I hold the front brake on and rock the bike there is a little movement in the upper bearing cap (the piece that fits directly onto the bearing). I wonder if the bottom bearing is allowing this play?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 4 ай бұрын
@@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 if it’s rocking, you definitely have playing it. You either need to tighten it down more or it could be something with the bottom bearing I put the pair in. Just one question and I don’t even think you could put it in without doing it. You moved the race on the top right.
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535
@mauriceoneill-thequietstor4535 4 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks again, Gary. The wobble remains serious. The bottom bearing is a noticeably bigger diameter that the upper and therein I believe lies the problem. The shake is insane and can come at speed after a bump or when staring to peddle. I have taken the baskets off and the violent wobble disappears. However there is a minute quiver that doesn't appear to develop any more severe. It is strange one. I will order the bottom bearing and let you know how it goes. BTW did you adjust the shims at all or just used the factory setting for the hellbender? Regards Maurice.
@dennisbrown3652
@dennisbrown3652 9 ай бұрын
I just received my step through XP. Awesome job. I have a big bike store and I’m going to call them and have they can install this on my Lectric bike. You made my day. I feel so much better about buying this bike. I will find out first if the step through has this problem. I’m so glad you didn’t give up on the bike. Thank you so much. I have a problem with this bike because my legs are so short and I’m concerned about my balance at a stop. I know I can’t lengthen my legs. Any suggestions. I have an XP 3.0 and it’s I’m doing okay on that but there is a huge difference in size between the two bikes. I may have to give my XPeak to my daughter. Thank you for all your help. Lectric should be paying you for the work you put in this bike. I may have to sell the XPeak. Hope not
@stevecumming6427
@stevecumming6427 9 ай бұрын
I got rid of my chain ring & chain & bought a new pair of diamond cut crank arms hanging down with the cadence sensor disconnected. The saddle is as low as it goes & I ride it as a slow speed motorcycle with no problem. It's a fat tire 20" folding bike & at my age, I got a block & a half with pedaling only so what's the point of ghost pedaling & your feet will hit the ground on 1 side at least I would think.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3TG1EJr
@markchilders9821
@markchilders9821 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this VERY helpful video. 1 question: Could you do a more in depth / step by step video of installing the dampener? I know NOTHING about bike repair but am mechanically handy and would like to do this myself rather than go to a bike shop.
@CMS-THEQUAD
@CMS-THEQUAD 3 ай бұрын
Gary, thanks for all the great info. Question.. did you just use the hellbender 70 assembly?… or did you also use a upper or lower hellbender 70 Visco headset?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 3 ай бұрын
@@CMS-THEQUAD I bought the whole assembly on Amazon, upper and lower and put the whole thing in the bearings on these bikes are awful. The top bearings are just loose ball bearings at least the bottom one has a little bit of a sleeve, but I can tell you they’re not waterproof. They’re actually the same inside the wheels just loose ball bearings with barely any grease on them.
@afanatic6992
@afanatic6992 9 ай бұрын
I just bought this bike an noticed the problem within 1 mile of riding. Please do a step thru! I need this fix its my first ever ebike.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 9 ай бұрын
That is an incredible product! Great job!!
@dropkickdrones4569
@dropkickdrones4569 Ай бұрын
Gary what Kenda tire is that?
@EbikeReviews
@EbikeReviews 9 ай бұрын
Gary, where is the link???
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3TG1EJr
@webesailingaway
@webesailingaway 9 ай бұрын
I'm confused. Is this link for the visco headset? Nowhere does it say visco on the headset or in the description.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
@@webesailingaway sorry about the confusion I didn’t post a link I figured people would ask and I would give it to them www.amazon.com/dp/B01EIR0WBM/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_M72VMH0HWDZN2WWNSQ8G?linkCode=ml2&tag=garywebster-20
@jtjohnston1970
@jtjohnston1970 4 ай бұрын
Gary, did you install upper and lower parts of the hellbender
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 4 ай бұрын
@@jtjohnston1970 I did install both, but you don’t need to to cure the wobble problem. Just put it in because it’s a much better bearing.
@tonyvpounds32
@tonyvpounds32 8 ай бұрын
Sir Gary, thank you for figuring out the remedy for wobble. I’m experiencing this on my Xpedition Cargo bike and awaiting Lectric’s reply for remedy. Would you by chance have a part number for hell bender for the Xpedition, or is the size of the Headset on Xpeak the same as Xpedition ?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
I believe if you only put the top bearing in, which is the one you need it is the same one, but I’m not 100% positive. I just know that it’s extremely similar. I had both those bikes apart before the bottom bearing definitely is not as the XPeak as tapered fork it’s available on Amazon. You can always return it if it’s not the right one.
@tonyvpounds32
@tonyvpounds32 8 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures any slim chance you can find the time to provide me with the top size and bottom size measurements on the Xpedition? So, that I can work with Cane Creek and bike mechanic on getting the right parts. I don’t have the capabilities, calipers or know how in measuring the post inner dimensions. I’d greatly appreciate the short cut if you are able ✌️
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
@@tonyvpounds32 Tony I would have to disassemble the fork area to do that. But I can tell you I’m pretty much sure it’s the same top as the XPeak but Lectric uses ball bearings just free floating, but I did replace mine with this set on Amazon amzn.to/3Q70zb3 maybe that will help you. Fork is 1”1/8 straight tube. Hope this helps
@tonyvpounds32
@tonyvpounds32 8 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I appreciate you taking the time for reply and attachment links. Thank you!
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx 3 ай бұрын
Gary, you said you have an Xpedition. What is your suspension like?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 3 ай бұрын
@@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx not really understanding what you’re asking it’s a suspension fork
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx 3 ай бұрын
No shock fork on front with a "450 lb" capacity??​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx 3 ай бұрын
I've never ridden an Xpedition. Elsewhere i have read people complaining every piece of minor road debris hit is transmitted to handlebars as relatively profound. I also know there's not a "450 lb" motorcycle made that doesn't have front Shocks. So now, as one guy described it, a "death wobble" at 20mph+, and a shocks-less front end, to-boot. That' what I was asking. You seem to imply at slower speeds the wobble is not a factor. >>> 🆗️ @GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 3 ай бұрын
@@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx i’ve never incurred a wobble on the XPedition and the front fork works out great on it. They come when they rigid fork but I did put a suspension fork on it.
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx
@Douglas-Prime-hb2yx 3 ай бұрын
Great. What fork did you put on it?
@robertcarazo8839
@robertcarazo8839 8 ай бұрын
Only have my first Ebike 3.0. But really like the the xpeck too. I think getting it and leaving it with no rack or fenders looks stuff and free for trail riding in woods. What do you think Gary? I’m not to handle in fix complex stuff.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
The bearing is super easy to put in, but which are you getting the step over or the step through
@robertcarazo8839
@robertcarazo8839 8 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures step over i like more and think it’s will handle better in wooded trails and rough terrain
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
@@robertcarazo8839 you will be absolutely fine then If you end up buying it, this doesn’t affect you at all, Would you please use my link? It helps out my channel. lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn thanks in advance
@debbiel7736
@debbiel7736 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully Lectric will just start putting this on all their bikes. Nothing worse than being excited about a new bike only to be disappointed on your first ride.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I would imagine they’re going to have to do something. The problem does exist. That’s why I tried to find a solution that was an off the shelf solution I have emailed my contact there and they do watch my videos so they are aware of what’s going on. Other than the wobble, the thing is an awesome bike.
@jordanrieser2703
@jordanrieser2703 6 ай бұрын
Question if we do this upgrade do we have to ride around with the extra weight too? And do I need new tubes and tires also?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 6 ай бұрын
No, you do not have to ride around with the extra weight. I was just trying to prove the point that it could take the weight that was what was initiating the problem. in the rims on this bike are not tubeless so tubes are required
@meadeboutwell2528
@meadeboutwell2528 9 ай бұрын
Gary, I have the Xpremium, does it take the same size headset part as your bike?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
No, the XPeak has a tapered fork the one on the XPremium is straight i’m sure if you called Cane Creek could probably get you the right one.
@AlexJTastic
@AlexJTastic 5 ай бұрын
Would there be in difference in wobble between the high step and a step through versions? I'm planning on getting one of these bikes and mounting a surf rack attachment to the side so would probably be carrying up to a 10LB board on one side. My local shop only has the step-through currently but wondering if I should just grab the high step online if it'll end up being better suited for what I'm trying to do with it.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 5 ай бұрын
@@AlexJTastic unfortunately the step-through are worse the step over would be a better choice
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 5 ай бұрын
@@AlexJTastic if you would please, can you use my code when you buy it it doesn’t cost you anything, but it gets me credit with the company lectricebikes.sjv.io/oq6rvn
@daniellocke9534
@daniellocke9534 2 ай бұрын
name of battery charger that you use?
@iemy2949
@iemy2949 2 ай бұрын
I wonder why Lectric isn’t just incorporating this or a similar part into manufacturing (and/or recall) and maybe charging $50 more (or not). Seems like good insurance against class action lawsuits and / or reputation damage.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 9 ай бұрын
Outstanding video!!
@MSManuel-61
@MSManuel-61 9 ай бұрын
Gary, do you have a link for the tool you used to install this?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
amzn.to/4cb4zAQ
@MSManuel-61
@MSManuel-61 9 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventuresThanks, my XPeak High Step is coming this Thursday. Definitely going to look into this upgrade.
@englishbill68
@englishbill68 9 ай бұрын
Hi Gary...Is this no wobble with the forks unlocked or locked? I want to move forward and purchase this headset if it works with the forks unlocked..thanks, Bill
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
I had the forks unlocked there $400 forks I’m not gonna lock them out 😁 thanks for watching
@englishbill68
@englishbill68 9 ай бұрын
Me either..I love this bike and wanna keep the baskets on my highstep as I carry my yeti cooler bag with water and lunch to work that weighs around 15 or more lb..I just put up with the wobble...thanks, for everything
@adamspencer6666
@adamspencer6666 8 ай бұрын
Ive had mine for a month or so and haven't had any wobble. I pull a weehoo bike trailer a lot. I also removed the rear rack and fenders
@imun1ty
@imun1ty 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if there is a rear wheel motor 1000 watt upgrade kit for the Xpeak? Does anyone know if this 750w motor M24 is a rebadged bafang motor?
@JasonXBeats
@JasonXBeats 7 ай бұрын
Does this work with a basket on the front?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on the weight you’re carrying, people have told me they’re running both baskets and have no problem. The only time I had a problem was when I had some good weight on the bike, but I have not experienced it since putting this on, but I have not run the front basket since I do run the rear. Hope this helps.
@JasonXBeats
@JasonXBeats 7 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I already bought this bike and wondering if you think I should return?
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 9 ай бұрын
That is a bad wobble...
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 9 ай бұрын
Gary at 6:52 the scale says 6.5kg , close to 15 pounds. i was like dang , which battery did he get that’s only 6 pounds!! 😂 those things get heavy! i used to haul around multiple triangles as well. They usually have 80-100 cells in them and they each weight at least like 60g probably.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re probably right the website had said 8 pounds that’s why I got the thing from in the beginning so when it came in at 6.5 I didn’t question it
@onoomy
@onoomy 9 ай бұрын
May be this is why it's so hard to get boxes to mail them back, trying to come up with this fix. If they mail us the parts I'd love to keep mine.
@cellsafemode
@cellsafemode 9 ай бұрын
the box i was sent, doesn't feel rated to contain an ebike. it's not double thick cardboard like most ebike boxes. no handles either. fedex is not going to baby this thing packaged in this box like it is. i fully expect this to fall over on its side and be man handled... and definitely taking damage on the way back. but that's on lectric. my stuff is photographed and packaged as well as it could be given what they provided.
@tonyvpounds32
@tonyvpounds32 8 ай бұрын
I’m currently experiencing this wobble on my Xpedition Cargo step through and awaiting Lectric’s response on how to remedy it.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
I have an XPedition also and put probably 30 pounds on the back of that and I’ve never had a problem, but I also don’t have the factory forks on it. I have a suspension fork on it.
@susieldh5790
@susieldh5790 7 ай бұрын
Was just wondering if the cargo bike wobbled. Thanks for the answer.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
Dumb question, but have you checked the head nut on that make sure it’s tight because those things are notorious for being loose and if it was loose, you could’ve lost bearings because the bearings just float in there
@mwright154
@mwright154 8 ай бұрын
What exact size is needed for this bike? 4 options on site
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3PFKuJw
@rickymahoney6664
@rickymahoney6664 9 ай бұрын
My headset doesn't wobble but it's clearly loose. I just got an Amyet G60 that had 3 rings from the headset in the box. They shouldn't have been off the bike so they're not in the directions. I had to troubleshoot where they go and got rid of 80% of the movement but I honestly think there's a piece missing. Do you have any idea if this would be combitable with my bike? I haven't worked on a bike in 20 years so this is going right over my head. The company provided 1 photo by email and mine looks the same but I must have done something wrong
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
My emails in my description if you want to send me some information I’ll look into it
@paulblylaw
@paulblylaw 9 ай бұрын
Hey Gary could you post the link? Sorry if I missed it.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3TG1EJr
@paulblylaw
@paulblylaw 9 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Thanks Gary!
@RosebudsTravels
@RosebudsTravels 9 ай бұрын
That's cool Gary.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 9 ай бұрын
7 bikes......addict.....one more coming....addict...😂😅
@susieldh5790
@susieldh5790 7 ай бұрын
What about taking a 50lbs passenger on back? Is this bike safe?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
Like I said, I’ve never experienced the wobble on that bike. The guy may have a loose headset those bikes were notorious for having them too loose. I’ve had mine apart so many times I know it’s fine. 😀 it’s honestly one of my favorite bikes. It’s definitely my favorite 20 inch bike.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
The scale maybe off but we put 32 pounds on the back and no wobble Its fixed
@chow-chihuang4903
@chow-chihuang4903 9 ай бұрын
My two locks, tools, first aid kit, trunk bag and grocery panniers weigh more than 20lbs (the chain lock itself weighs 12lbs). None of my bikes or e-bikes wobble with that kit put on them. That’s before anything gets loaded in the grocery panniers. It’s unacceptable for an adventure bike like the XPeak, which is marketed as being sturdy and able to carry quite a bit of cargo at up to 28mph, to not be able to carry that amount.
@m3rdpwr
@m3rdpwr 9 ай бұрын
So, when are you buying the new Lectric ONE. 😅😅😅
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
So to tell you the truth, I talk with creators all the time. I’m not in a position where they’re giving me bikes yet I can get a discount usually about 30%. so I was going to buy it but I didn’t know what it was when I saw it this morning I said a 20 inch bike from electric for over $2000 I’ll pass I don’t care if it’s got a belt drive or not. What happens if your ghost peddling with the belt drive you’re stuck in their world at that point Lectric is entry-level bikes I don’t think anybody that wants to spend $2200 or if you get the long long range batteries probably gonna be in the $2500 range maybe they put it out in a 24 inch bike that would’ve made it more interesting.
@joellee6142
@joellee6142 7 ай бұрын
so the only way to fix this wobble is by getting that part that cost ove 100 bucks??
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
If you have the step over, you may not have the problem at all and many people with the step through. Don’t experience the problem. Most of it is because of weight on the baskets. And quite honestly, you won’t even feel the wobble unless you ride with no hands on the handlebar.
@joellee6142
@joellee6142 7 ай бұрын
​@@GarysE-BikeAdventures I do use the back racket, so thats important to me, this delayed me getting this ebike, sadly..
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
@@joellee6142 I do use the back rack but I was getting a wobble with 18 pounds on it before. now I put quite a bit on it and I get no wobble at all with the hellbender again not a problem if you have your hands on the handlebars with the step over.
@roysharp8522
@roysharp8522 5 ай бұрын
I called lectric and they reimbursed me for the part and labor. Just had to send the receipt
@AJF4Me
@AJF4Me 3 ай бұрын
Gary your Amazon link doesn't take you to the correct headset, it takes you to a Hellbender 70 but not the Visco headset.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 3 ай бұрын
@@AJF4Me strange maybe they’re trying to fool everybody into buying this one because they don’t have the other one in stock anywhere
@georgeklinzing1449
@georgeklinzing1449 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn't that be a Hellbender 70 Visco Model? Those are the ones they market for Steering stability.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
That’s what it is
@georgeklinzing1449
@georgeklinzing1449 9 ай бұрын
OK Thanks
@dancuarta
@dancuarta 9 ай бұрын
Gary, how much should it cost for parts and labor approximately?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
@@dancuarta the part is about a hundred dollars not really sure what they charge for labor, took me less than an hour to do
@boisvertra
@boisvertra 2 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures Gary, in your video, the part number on the box is not Visco, and the parts installed on the bike have no Visco badging. It sure looks like you installed a standard Hellbender 70 kit...
@arelkay730
@arelkay730 9 ай бұрын
Great job!
@BretHazlett
@BretHazlett 7 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!
@bassw1758
@bassw1758 9 ай бұрын
My 52v 20ah UPP weighs 13LB
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 9 ай бұрын
They are heavy, those generic Chinese cells, i think the 52V 20ah upp batteries weigh more!! than my 72V 20AH with the big 21700 samsung 40t3 cells
@JasonXBeats
@JasonXBeats 7 ай бұрын
Just bought mines from the official site
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Here’s the link to the part guys amzn.to/3U1tUpl
@MontroseCo-d7c
@MontroseCo-d7c 3 ай бұрын
@@GarysE-BikeAdventures appreciate that, thank you
@geogaming369
@geogaming369 5 ай бұрын
10:52
@sethdad9992
@sethdad9992 3 ай бұрын
You should never crank a Headset down....that is 1000% not the wobble. Its the balance over the axels period. Its simple physics... I fixed my wired bike same day by balancing the front to rear weight, you want it to be centered between the axels or over, anything past the back one will make a wobble. That expensive headset is a waste of money, for most bikes. The grease for it is more expensive then the headset and very hard to find...
@willie90210
@willie90210 6 ай бұрын
Lectric should suspend the sale of these bikes until they resolve this problem. These bikes are not safe in these conditions!
@coopsmusicvision
@coopsmusicvision 8 ай бұрын
who is the dumbass that thought putting drainage grates in the side of the roads with the slots facing in a way that skinny bike tires could fall into and cause an accident was a good idea? anyways i just purchase the headset for my step through, should get it in few days, hope it works because right now i'm afraid to ride it with this wobble.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, they would not send me a step through so that I could try it on. So I have no idea if it’ll cure it on that, I am being told by other people that it does work. I wish you luck, my friend. It’s pretty easy to put in.
@coopsmusicvision
@coopsmusicvision 8 ай бұрын
ok i slow down the video and realized that the grates were crisscross so no tires could fit in. however i do remember when they were like that, very dangerous .
@bernfeltham1684
@bernfeltham1684 5 ай бұрын
plane and simple ...it should not wobble
@coopsmusicvision
@coopsmusicvision 8 ай бұрын
i put the hellbender 70 headset on my xpeak stepthru . no difference, it still wobbles bad. do not buy this bike!
@xpatfingerboards326
@xpatfingerboards326 8 ай бұрын
I was waiting to see if it will work on the stepthru. Thanks for posting. We are waiting for the box to return it.
@tw5315
@tw5315 3 ай бұрын
So let me get this straight. You spend 1k+ on a bike and you have to spend more money and time so that you can fix a manufacturing defect, and Lectric does absolutely nothing to fix the problem? That sounds like legendary customer service to me🤷🏼‍♂️ WTF?
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 3 ай бұрын
@@tw5315 actually Lectric was very glad I found an answer I’m actually going to there unveil the first week of October their paying to fly me out and paying for my hotel. I’m gonna get to tour their facility and ride the two bikes that they are introducing for next spring. And I believe they have been working with customers that had a problem.
@bernfeltham1684
@bernfeltham1684 5 ай бұрын
buy a part brand new bike.....f
@charliechapman2842
@charliechapman2842 9 ай бұрын
It should have been a 7-minute video.
@AKing99
@AKing99 9 ай бұрын
Charlie C, this is not that kind of channel. I glad Gary took the time to prove his point!
@BruceGordon925
@BruceGordon925 7 ай бұрын
I just about ordered one.... Now I see it's a hugh mistake. I don't understand why you continue to try fix JUNK.
@GarysE-BikeAdventures
@GarysE-BikeAdventures 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, it’s a really nice bike for the money, and it seems that the only ones criticizing the bike are the ones that never had a chance to try it
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