My Life As A White Sangoma | Unpacked with Relebogile Mabotja - Episode 36 | Season 3

[@thembelandawule8841]

I would like to applaud Lebo for her hosting/interviewing skills. This lady is just giving 1-word answers and she looks like she doesn't want to talk. But Lebo handled it like a pro. Big up to you Lebo 🙂

[@kgomotsomodise6858]

I don’t think it’s that she doesn’t want to talk, remember that when you are a sangoma, your experience of the world is completely different and you see and hear a lot more things especially when you are around a lot of people, it can be very distracting. Also, she must be careful with her words as there are a lot of things that she may not be able to share. I hope this helps 🌞

[@sphazwelakhe2784]

At 22:13 she mentioned that Tsepo/Tshepo is very stubborn😂 so I think that’s why she’s giving 1-word answers

[@sisg1753]

5 min in and I already feel the same way

[@DiKajigi]

This episode has basically cemented the fact that Relebogile is an outstanding host!!!! This guest has me gritting my teeth because she was keeping her answers so brief and had to be prompted all the time to give more information. You were born for this Relebogile. I love to see it! Love from Kenya.

[@SimplySiwe]

My sentiments exaxctly!

[@thandekamdlovu5212]

She’s amazing

[@thandekamdlovu5212]

She is amazing

[@nosiphoduma3933]

Exactly my thoughts

[@joymaphanga1786]

Fact.

[@relebogilemabotja215]

#RoadTo200K I appreciate all your support. Please keep sharing our episodes on social media and subscribe if you haven't already 🥳

[@Nakedhead11]

No we appreciate YOU! You have not the slightest clue how watching your show has had an impact in my life. Where have you been all these years!? This show is way long overdue. Thank you for all the insight, you truly bring change in people's lives.You're the woman you think you are Relebogile Mabotja.👌🏼🙌🏼❤️

[@zuzilezungu5899]

We made it to 100k

[@maisonroyale1922]

You were born for this Sisi and I really admire you, great content

[@UBTInternational]

I love the way you letting her talk even when she is not ready to say a word. This is the 1st time am getting a negative energy since i started watching your work. She is not into this for any good,the fact that she is from another race and looking at her eye contact I dont doubt my instincts that she is up to something. Vengeance I may say.But I respect her choice

[@portiamoremi5226]

Sisi you are truly born for this.. You are so calm and u ask your questions not in a judgemental way but just calmly "unpacking" the story.. 😂 😂 Well done.. She wasn't easy to watch 😂😂

[@KwaneleZehSikhosana]

Why wasn't she easy to watch?

[@portiamoremi5226]

@@KwaneleZehSikhosana the way she responded to questions, its like she wasn't told up-front about the interview, therfore she wasn't prepared to share her story. We learn from this program so if someone isn't ready to share and just answers as thou its a yes or no questionnaire.

[@koketsomantsena]

@@portiamoremi5226 I completely agree

[@karenwilliams9904]

Rele has a skillset where she handles an interview like a story telling.she has a way of restating a former question along with the answer and linking it to the next question asked and by so doing makes the story continuous and provides a flow that engages the listener/ observer to the end.Mad respects fi real .🔥🔥🔥🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@yolandamkati2879]

Relebogile's interview skills are unmatched. The way she keep probing without being pushy & offensive is amazing! I'm 08:00 minutes into this interview & thinking to myself "haybo ntombi elaborate you can't be giving one line answers 🥺". Great job Relebogile❤

[@fehaymfekayi5893]

I just feel that this is just how she speaks or how she is. Not that she was being difficult or anything🤷‍♀️

[@innocenttebogo502]

Yea ey

[@andrettam6896]

I really think so too

[@Mia10107]

I also understood her since her spirit is a man and as we know man don't like explaining alot, they just give you a straight answer and it's really understandable why she's that way and she was being herself.

[@mamakhooamphahama3938]

True

[@realhey-girl]

I love her how simple her answers are. Simple but very impactful.

[@SJ_KingMthembu]

She looks like she doesn't want to be here, and not engaging to the conversation, now it's like Q&A interview and I feel for the interviewer

[@criticallyspeaking]

I thought so too. Whats her issue? She is cold

[@SJ_KingMthembu]

@@criticallyspeaking I really don't know hey, because if it was the dlozi, the dlozi would be spoken to her and say don't do this interview etc. Maybe it is her character

[@vuyokazi1797]

3 minutes in and I’m thinking why did she agree to come? Hayibo! Why is it QnA? We are used to conversations apha…

[@rugareroux3982]

Honestly, i think we are maybe judging her too harshly. At the end of the day she wouldn't have being there to share her story if she didn't want to. Being on television is a big step, what if she has stage fright... or what if she is an anxious person etc. I think as a collective, we need to be kinda towards one another and less judgemental.

[@vuyokazi1797]

@@rugareroux3982 the stage fright part I get… those lights and people behind can be intimidating…. Yhaaa I think I agree with you …

[@lindimagagula8545]

People are different. That's what I'm seeing today. We're used to guests that open up and share their journey, however this was like a Q&A but Relebogile soldiered on and we learnt.

[@andybizzle4376]

You have a point.

[@dipuokgole2132]

Absolutely

[@ellenzodwa536]

So true hey. I thought I'm the only one whose observed that.

[@mojabengntsane2144]

She is a true Sangoma,u answer wat u are questioned not to gv too much

[@mmeshikgaphola419]

African spirituality is fundamentally based on inclusive & far more progressive than we would like to acknowledge. Most of the key components of African spirituality got lost when colonialism was imposed on our ancestors. We shouldn't be surprised seeing a white sangoma,in 2009, read an article about a black American man who was guided through visions from the USA to the Mpumalanga province in SA to be trained as a sangoma. That's how fascinating spirituality is.

[@heroddube]

Doesn't a black American still have African ancestors?

[@mmeshikgaphola419]

They do,so is every race.

[@ndivva]

If an African can be a Christian, a white lady can be a sangoma

[@friedaroms8021]

There is a similar story of a white lady from America who also got visions to be initiated as a sangoma here in SA.

[@smizijoy4529]

send a link of that video

[@phumzilemashinini2754]

Relebogile my sister I'm really wishing your channel all the best. I pray it grows from strength to strength. Your content is just simply amazing, informative, relevant and your interviewing skills are the cherry on top. I'm truly hooked... I wish you could also get some TV time along with this channel. I love it!

[@Youngandunfiltered]

She does on SABC 3

[@tkmothiba5573]

The show is on S3 (sabc 3) and then she uploads the unedited versions here on KZbin

[@relebogilemabotja215]

I appreciate those lovely words and your support. Please keep sharing our episodes on social media to help the channel reach 100K subscribers and subscribe if you haven't already 🤗

[@mahlohonololebuso741]

Tell you what, I don't think that the guest was trying to be hard or anything. She's just closed off, it's her personality. Because I saw that on some questions, she was able to elaborate more. I think it's her body language and tone that puts the viewer off, but I genuinely think that she was being herself. In the same breath, Relebogile realised what kind of guest she was and she caught on quick. She kept the questions coming in just so that the guest can keep talking to avoid awkward silence. That's some skill right there!! Relebogile can think on her feet...bravo.

[@Roses_777]

Exactly. You saw what I saw.

[@tinyiko2949]

yoh Relebogile can present can present 100%. this lady she's like a difficult exam but she killed it.

[@Dklady]

So true I found her to be a closed book, she didn't want to explain further than the question asked... It was almost as if she didn't want to ask most of the questions...I'm surprised the interview took that long

[@temosomakhafola7412]

I loved it, at 1st I thought she was uptight,but as I continued I realized she's being careful, people can blow everything she said out of proportion and start saying nasty things

[@asisiphomnyaka4760]

Yeah, I see it too

[@hlengiwemasondo2858]

I see things in dreams and they happen, I can sense an ugly spirit about someone but that does not mean I should be a sangoma. Niyaphapha e SA

[@KeituForever]

😂😂

[@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009]

Jah we are gifted differently n we should embrace that

[@tumelomphela1306]

😂😂😂😂

[@reneilwemndawe7423]

Everyday we learn on this channel hey. The growth in the level of empathy and open mindedness is unmatched 🌻

[@jabulileskosana848]

True that! its amazing 🙌💟

[@relebogilemabotja215]

Thank you 🙏🏾😊

[@nombasamhlati8796]

So true

[@letsomoloi6958]

I can’t imagine what Relebogile was going through during this interview. It was like pulling teeth. Well done to you!

[@nikithanel7408]

😄😄😄

[@jacoleroux9566]

Well done my angel. It is not easy but you are doing it better then any one. Love u

[@preciousthulimatshika2798]

Yoh Yoh yoh this interview was tough Sangoma doesn't open up hey.. Give applause to Rele for keeping it going

[@sharonseroka1122]

Sis Relebogile looking beautiful as always

[@relebogilemabotja215]

🙏🏾🥰

[@theiashirlaw5440]

I know ya Bronywyn , Theia from 13 two suns. I know your daughter! and i remember visiting your home many years ago, you had a beautiful medicine room. much love

[@jerrychetty2524]

Relebogile you asked such nice questions I say you could be an excellent lawyer my sister. I admire your guest as regards the refusals of the slaughter and drinking of the goats blood, and the teacher who accepts her wish . I am Indian and there is a ritual in my culture which requires the slaughter of chickens when my children are born and I refused that too when I had my 2 kids

[@nicolemanqana8818]

Ugogo is so guarded....excellent interview Relebogile you are very good.

[@malwandemthethwa]

Everyday these episodes are a surprise and an educational time. Truly profound 🌻

[@hlengiwemaduna5886]

I smiled throughout. This is so beautiful to hear especially from a different race. It gets more interesting nje. I am even lost for words sis Lebo. This is a very nice show which touches almost everything happening in life and I love you for that

[@andrettam6896]

Shows that spirits knows the human being spirit to spirit not the skin colour

[@vuyokazi1797]

Yho hay feels like I’m watching state capture cross examination 🥺😭🙆🏾‍♀️

[@gugukhumalo8065]

Lolest Vuyo, state capture 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1k191]

😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vovo_ytk9723]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lornakay1810]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 dead

[@ndiwanganetshiluvhi4158]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[@anation2351]

I felt she was cold at first but after some time she opened up hey and she has shone a light on the process of becoming a Sangoma and actually reduced the scariness of it.

[@keleposholi3062]

She looks so scared/ traumatized, I hope she's okay ❤️

[@zimkhitha.h]

Right. She doesn't look OK.. Really hope she is

[@dipuokgole2132]

@@zimkhitha.h not at all

[@abongilekantsabo6419]

I don't believe this🤔I don't know why..WHITE sangoma

[@whoistayah]

Hhayi man 🤣🤣🤣

[@fikileerroliamabena6131]

Right???? Like she looks... Weird

[@ndiboe_m1496]

Show me somebody else here in Africa who can do this interview thing better than Relebogile, I bet there's none!!

[@zozibiningqula3316]

We don’t know everyone in Africa and yes our sister is brilliant

[@eunicethulisile637]

Yena she's the best xem I always say it. She was born for it

[@petronellachiloane5528]

Rebogile is excellent 😍 love and respect to her. David Mashabela is also. I watched his interview with Rebecca Malope. I loved the fact that he did his homework 100% before the interview. Just answering the question " show me somebody in Africa...." that interview was one of the most inspiring interviews I've ever watched.

[@jermainehendrick6718]

Certified & Approved by Ghana. There's no one better on this side

[@MissOJAY]

Sikhona yaz ukuthi anisazi

[@onelembunye7552]

Rele is so beautiful. I'm mesmerised ❤

[@noxzienocturnal2103]

Dude!!! She is gorgeous!

[@pumzamlondi8538]

I loved how she opened up when she started talking about her "best friend", and she is so right.

[@palesapalesa938]

Relebogile mabotja... 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏This girl had questions after question... Aaaibo, this could have easily been a very awkward interview but the girl was on top of it ... You are speacila hle

[@sumeiyaali5663]

Thanks Rele! Very difficult interview, she was so closed up or her presence was heavy, don’t know there was something there ( not in a bad way)! Even felt as if she was going to bodla and tell you indaba zakho!!

[@palesamatsipa2157]

Aaaw I'm so happy for her. she chose the narrow road, less travelled, difficult, but well worth it!

[@GwenMats]

Yohhh this interview was a drag really felt sorry for Relebogile but she really did good. Well done Kelz

[@alicegauteng2358]

Relebogile is good at what she does. Bravo!

[@innocenttebogo502]

Can we acknowledge our host for her outstanding interview skills coz wow. The is the Queen of Unpacking stories 🙌👏👏👏👏👏👏👸

[@molefikhobotlo1248]

The lady that's being interviewed doesn't go much into detail and i guess its just how she is,she just gives one answer question and that's it,Kelebogile i applaud you on this interview,you did an amazing job like you always do. 👏 👏

[@petronellachiloane5528]

Thanks for the great interview Relebogile. You ladies were great👌🏾. Bronwyn helped us to see how talented Relebogile is... Relebogile's interviewing skills was taken to another level. Thanks to Mkhulu Tshepo or Tshepi (I'm not sure where said Tshepo or Tshepi). 10/10 from me

[@sijabulilecjdumakude5288]

Thank you so much for sharing your story. ❤️❤️❤️ it’s hard because people don’t understand and they don’t believe. Especially when it comes to family. But we persevere always.

[@dudutlou7534]

I have only watched this for 5min and I am shaking my head on disbelief.

[@tsokho_shumba]

My mind just cracked open I have been undermining the power of dream and spirits!

[@nwabisatakata3300]

I think people who don't want to be interviewed shouldn't come to the show because now Relebogile has to go an extra mile to get info out.

[@TJ-my9nh]

But remember people have different personalities, some easily volunteer the information out and some though they don't resist to engage they need to be probed to get the info out of them.

[@Mbokodo_]

@@TJ-my9nh but if you are going to have difficulties relaying information, giving one word answers as if you're forced to be there rather don't. Not everyone will be interviewed anyway and this is a platform where YOU ought to speak . Not the interviewer speak for you . If you know you have a restricted personality, then don't opt for such interviews . You'd swear she was forced to do it

[@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009]

@@Mbokodo_ We are different guys we need to understand that, I understand since I'm also like her. But i understand where you come from, most people also find me weird.

[@ThobileMacaws]

If black people can accept none melanin dominant people as inyanga then there’s a huge problem with our people… yena which of her ancestors called her? What is her totem? Where is her umbilical cord? Which moya is she using vele?

[@Komeshokakunanwene]

I guess 5 years down the line, we will still wait for anwswers. Do this people even have totems?

[@EulandaMahlaba]

Firstly, if my comment comes off as judgmental, you are projecting. This did not seem genuine at all. The whole process she took and the many steps she skipped makes me think she was taken for a ride or ..idk, but something about this does not seem genuine. You find sangomas who consult and use different methods of healing. So it isn't about that. It's the whole story that seems very off-ish to me. What I find concerning are the choices either made by her gobela or herself instead of idlozi lakhe that has to. That's a red flag for me. Idlozi lakho dictates your name and how you are ought to maneuver this world with it living inside you, not the other way around. The name of the dlozi as well...like?? Either way, great interview 🖤

[@_pandorah._]

I share the same sentiment Eulanda. I don’t see how this makes sense. Kuba ngatsi bamfake umoya but ey 😅🥱

[@simthandilempondo6827]

I also feel the same. No one should tell you that you must thwasa. Your ancestors will reveal this.

[@princessmoalosi5037]

Beeen looking for this comment 🤞

[@Das644]

I get where you are coming from but i have learned that things aren’t monotonous in this world. She might have had a different experience than others, especially since she said that this was new experience to her.

[@noxzienocturnal2103]

You had the guts to say it, Mina I couldn't. I think they scammed her, from allowing her to choose not to do some rituals because she's different, to leaving her to do what she wants before she even graduated, I don't even want to mention the best friend Tsepi.

[@bambotinzi8485]

This is so real, i'm happy to hear this kind of explanation

[@mantitilefalatsa6944]

This interview could have been one of the best on this channel but this lady was truly a challenge. It’s as if she wasn’t informed of the nature of the interview!

[@thembisaodendaal]

Excellent interview I'm sure Relebogile enjoyed it because it was hard.she's a consummate professional knows exactly how far and how deep.Obviously if unabadala your personality is like this lady off and weird but in a way that I understand she's being herself...you could see she was occupied in that interview she kept on looking at them

[@nehemiamokgaliphe2244]

I can truly relate to that lady and of her, because I try so much to act normal and not to seem crazy because some how I am seeking societal acceptance. But what is funny is that I always find my self alone anyways😑

[@thembisaodendaal]

@@nehemiamokgaliphe2244 accept who you are and care less about people because ultimately they dont care and that is a sad truth

[@2011frieda]

Been following sis Lebo on "Unpacked " lately, I must really acknowledge ur talent and understanding ur guests of different caliber. However, I must say it's my first time hearing/seeing a white sangoma. I noticed that she's uneasy or not comfortable saying certain things but kuddos to the host..sending my appreciation from Namibia 🇳🇦

[@ShuvaiAprilzw]

I never really enjoy making negative comments but I think she has arrogance towards the African ritual. I think she maybe spiritual but it is not being a Sangoma. When you surrender to something , you learn the language, and go 110%. I am annoyed that she wants to be an authority when she won't even learn the language and trivialized the ritual.

[@nelisaponi3021]

But njena guides speak to you through pictures majority of the time and they help you in a manner that you will be able to connect the dots. Once you reach the intended message, you have so much peace thereafter and literally stop questioning. So it's very much possible hey.

[@priscillangqola5508]

The gobela would never initiate her without seeing that she needs to go through it, it's not your place.

[@Kganya_Makola]

what language should she learn? There are 11 official languages in SA. It's African Spirituality not Zulu/Sepedi culture

[@LifeGuru16]

@@Kganya_Makola the language of the one who passed that calling to you

[@Kganya_Makola]

@@LifeGuru16 how do you know that she didn't 🤔

[@Lifestylebytaby]

Let's forget that she was guarded and closed off . Oh my word are people so ignorant and judgmental... We all have ancestors and different cultures despite of the ethnicity you are . Ancestors will communicate or give you a gift weather u are white , red , black or green it doesn't matter , hence will have different rituals to perform because of different cultures. There's nothing unusual about this lady at all .

[@serahchava8469]

Which rituals do what folks have to perform?

[@mrs_bey_brkovic1777]

The white sangoma seems u comfortable or maybe she could be unwell? I just cannot connect with her🥺

[@iamkay5795]

Love from 🇧🇼 Love love this channel❤

[@relebogilemabotja215]

Thank you for your support. Please share if you enjoyed this episode 😊

[@_pandorah._]

Guys wait...🧐 she refused ukudla intwaso but she finished ukuthwasa? Her “dlozi” is not in her lineage? Her sister was attacked by demons (ancestors) coz she didn’t want to thwasa? Tshepo/Tsepi ke mang? Ngaze ngaLost 😔

[@Incognito-ml7ct]

Super lost

[@zozibiningqula3316]

And she is still under attack Lord help her

[@_molebogeng6281]

I don't blame her really, this is something she didn't know about🤷‍♀️ the gobela's should have advised her better

[@_pandorah._]

@@zozibiningqula3316 bruh! Mina ngi lost and angfun ukungasho

[@_pandorah._]

@@_molebogeng6281 I feel like she got played nami. Maybe because imali beykhona coz how does she get to excuse herself from doing certain rituals coz she’s different? So does that mean amathwasana akhe nawo abayidli intwaso? Since she’s also a gobela now

[@KeorapetseMokwena96]

"The final ritual I refused to do..." Bathong ausi ona o laola badimo shame😂😂😂

[@noxzienocturnal2103]

Wena! 😵

[@thipimotsoare4228]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 O ba hula ka dinko dear

[@tumeloseadira8224]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nyaradzo-]

Imagine😂

[@nonhlanhlamahlangu8427]

😂😂😂

[@khanyisamakahane6840]

There’s a thin line between mental health and “ A calling “‘

[@shinelikestars2759]

Hahahaa

[@zozibiningqula3316]

Inyani zodwa

[@bjp5873]

🤣🤣🤣

[@sontomtolo473]

That's what I thought as well...

[@thelightoftheworld4303]

Well said.

[@kingpk4429]

Hiding something and finding it by the help of a spirit... Is that testing the presence of a spirit or the kind of a spirit? We have many spirits in this world....

[@92Kandee]

Slaughtering isn't in her culture but boSangoma is? Haha okay... No one finds it awkward that she was allowed to consult before graduating? Is that even allowed?

[@heroddube]

Spiritual white priviledge? lmao. Same way Natasha Mazonne wrote articles without LLB

[@92Kandee]

@@heroddube 🤣🤣 wow, good one!

[@tinasibiya5194]

I consult i haven't even been ephehlweni

[@tumelomphela1306]

@@heroddube 😂😂😂😂

[@KwaneleZehSikhosana]

Sangomas can consult and work as long as ancestors want to do so

[@Thembi_3]

Such a tough interview in my opinion almost having to milk out the information.... Relebogile your interview skills unmatched 👏 🙌 👌

[@sibongilematibese4539]

We are indeed unpacking 🥰🙏

[@sibulelomatsimela]

Besides being cringe and hard to watch this interview left me with more questions than answers.

[@jaiyaalexandra144]

Iets is nie reg nie... This is my analysis. I'm sorry in advance to the people that I offend. These people opened portals and exposed themselves to these altars and then it is said to be a "calling".

[@nompumelelonzimande6391]

so true

[@prettyteka5666]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@dizletee8980]

Yep...

[@Jozlejana]

True

[@maggiemahlatji997]

True

[@pumzamlondi8538]

This was great.

[@RayOfLetsatsi]

Mkhulu Tshepo aka Tshep?😂hai I was really trying to keep an open mind until that point.

[@Youngandunfiltered]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Prudylicious]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Naughtorious]

😭😭😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂

[@nompumelelomasango3688]

🤣🤣🤣 awa badlale ngaye

[@tshegofatsotshifhango5433]

Imagine going to consult and all you get are these brief statements that are neither here nor there 😏

[@noxzienocturnal2103]

So they got her mother a black sangoma for protection and it worked, then she went to see a black sangoma in the township who told her that she had a calling but she wanted to hear it from a white sangoma, only then could she believe it? Honestly, that's where she definitely started to lose me. Yazin, let me just leave it here because I really don't know much about uk'thwasa.

[@tshepishochuene1280]

Lool you blame her?She had never seen or met a white Sangoma prior to her "calling".

[@tinasibiya5194]

Nami sorry

[@sibulelomatsimela]

I mean she had never met a white one before so it makes sense why she would want to confirmation from someone that looks like her.

[@ngwatomosadi1531]

Even in western medicine. In South Africa, I've yet to see a non white person consulting a black/African doctor.

[@kholofelomonene4440]

Also , how is she Mkhulu Tshepo ?

[@Tee-kay991]

She did her best to keep the interview going

[@michaelmabhina2476]

Appreciation to mkhulu Tshepo and her honesty

[@knightcutiee6579]

This is just a reflection of Lebo’s skills because hayi ahhhh…… ingathi she’s been forced to come to the show. Literally trying to bleed a stone . Hands up to lebo

[@cheriebonnin-goetz6081]

Lovely Interview!

[@Youngandunfiltered]

I am trying to be open minded but i am not fully convinced. She must have a black ancestry lineage who had a gift for her go through spiritual initiation as a healer. Or maybe these initiations or spiritualities are not limited to race. Apparently in the states different race go through initiation in order to practice voodoo, which is very interesting.

[@zozibiningqula3316]

That’s what I m saying , doesn’t make any sense

[@KwaneleZehSikhosana]

And blacks have "ndau" spirits which are foreign spirits and people with those spirits often dream of white people Same thing as a prophetic gift... it hurts when whites think and react to their belief blacks are not capable of having a propheting gift... which we call izithunywa... and yet hear she is being jugdes based on colour... spiritually does not depend on colour... ..we are jugded because they don't think God can gift black people with a prophetic gift and this is axactly what you are doing to her And not all of us will understand this... somethings need certain growth in wisdom of spirituality

[@meganstoffel795]

The last ceremony uu must do to graduate is very important. There's a lot that happen during that ceremony en after. She's not a full sangoma. That's like not writing a final exam of ur final year in order to graduate. She should focus on being a medium. Should've went to Botswana lala. Yes uu didn't trust him(But trusted him enough to consult) you could've went with someone uu trust.

[@feelathome3629]

She's just shy😘😘😘😘😘

[@maburwanejohannes4647]

To behonest nowadays we just save our judgements and learn. We come across surprising things, keep queit and learn. We have black people who identify themselves as white people, I also learnt there's a difference between sex and gender which I thought was just the same.

[@nehemiamokgaliphe2244]

@Side Whittington i am crying coz we get it.

[@paul_elago]

There's no difference between sex and gender.

[@sinazobogicevic3442]

@@paul_elago imagine being so proud of one's ignorance

[@paul_elago]

@@sinazobogicevic3442 I'm very well aware of the argument and it's origins. It's a THEORY, not a FACT and it's not accurate.

[@maburwanejohannes4647]

@Side Whittington lol, I simply learn not to teach others but to accept the existence of certain things. You gotta realize that people got the mentality "As long as it's not illegal". And keeping queit doesn't necessarily mean we support or agree with any of these.

[@xeniareacting6469]

She is extremely closed off and withdrawn, body language EVERYTHING...I wonder why this is honestly.

[@Omnist-]

She's fake that's why.

[@mmakwenamatlou4097]

very insightful but I want to know what race is mkhulu Tshepo and her ancestors who deliver the message to her, are they black or white

[@bonniedintlhoane3538]

Thank you for the video❤❤❤❤🥺🥺🥺

[@sedigurl5759]

Which sangoma is now 😭✋🏾which ancestors is she talking to and wht language does she communicate in 😭Afrikaans ??

[@sediman1662]

😂😂😂

[@Komeshokakunanwene]

Those questions, I wish someone can answer.

[@sabelosammynkomonde2675]

Hi Lebo, thanks for bringing Brownywin. I noticed you did not make any follow-ups on questions. Is it due to time constraints?

[@rebotilemolaba4803]

"it's not my dlozi, it's my best friend" aiii nooo😔😔

[@zozibiningqula3316]

It’s her demons

[@Naughtorious]

Tsep

[@kgalalelolala6963]

😂😂ska mpolaya hle

[@nompumelelomasango3688]

🤣🤣

[@heroddube]

She said "Our industry". The calling is industrious?

[@lindiwemhlanga5597]

She is right. That's what it is nowadays, have you seen their Facebook and Instagram pages? It's crazy.

[@vuyokazi1797]

Are Idlozi ke “Tshepi” 🤪😂😂😂😂 Ai we learn everyday…

[@EulandaMahlaba]

Dude. It's very disrespectful. Idlozi has to be someone who had past on, not just a random person, unless she had a white ancestor names Tshepi

[@vuyokazi1797]

We learn everyday 🤣🙆🏾‍♀️🙈

[@Das644]

@@EulandaMahlaba i see you everywhere. Honestly i think you are trying to make her story fit into what you consider as the only way things should go. You are like a police officer who convinced themselves that someone is guilty and you are trying very much to fit the evidence into your theory irregardless of whether the evidence say otherwise. Her case might be different. Things in this world aren’t monotonous. We have special cases everyday. Not saying her story is true or not. Just that it could be true and different.

[@EulandaMahlaba]

@@Das644 everywhere, where is everywhere? Do not compare how the world operates versus how the spiritual world operates and that's exactly what you're doing.

[@manofgod5009]

@@EulandaMahlaba I will pray for you

[@mzyvonnehangara7637]

Huuuu anticipation is killing me 😢brief answers Goodos lebo u are patient

[@khensanizwane2278]

So what’s the difference between a sangoma and a psychic ?

[@smizijoy4529]

psychic can't heal

[@lydiamthembu6991]

This is beautiful ❤️😭

[@zimkhitha.h]

She doesn't seem alright to me. Think whatever it is hasn't been dealt with yet. Or she's trying to but this solution isn't the one for her

[@Jozlejana]

I agree however what do you think isn’t right ?

[@cc35506]

I remember her being interviewed on another talk show. Maybe 2 years ago. She seemed off then and still seems the same way.

[@Das644]

Mybe that is just how she is as a person. Her temperament could just be of that nature

[@thipimotsoare4228]

Wa bora her

[@patiencelembede9529]

For me this was a very difficult interview. Big ups to the host for holding it down. The guest looked uncomfortable and it seems like she did not want to do this. However, she might be going through something and we don't know about it but yohhh hai shame beyidonsa

[@clementinegrey1927]

there's something off about our guest today 😭

[@gugukhumalo8065]

Lol I feel the same way, but I'm trying to convince myself not to judge

[@nyasha5524]

@@gugukhumalo8065 lol same here

[@sigmalonewolf8808]

And what exactly makes her seems off? Take off only the sangoma part from her and replace it with christinity, leave everything on her and most of you will be praising her like jesus is coming back.

[@clementinegrey1927]

@@sigmalonewolf8808 I do not have a problem with her being a sangoma or either against anything related to sangomas,in fact I do believe in ancestors .... but something about her is just weird, well that's my opinion, I don't know how did you get to the conclusion of relating it to "sangoma and Christianity" comparism 🤷

[@sigmalonewolf8808]

@@clementinegrey1927 understandable. But she seems like a straight foward person who happens to have different personlatity as compared to what most of appreciate as being normal. The christianity part came about the saltyness that christians tend to have on our african spirituality and making everything about it demonic

[@kgomorachoene7375]

The interview is hard shame she seems like she is forced to talk nje but any wawe learn every day

[@lunzamubita478]

Lolll😂 she looks and sounds angry... I feel like I shouldn't watch cause she doesn't want to be watched 😭😭😭.

[@kgomorachoene7375]

@@lunzamubita478 loool ai I wonder why she came

[@musantshalintshali3326]

This episode left me confused and having more questions. How does she have tshepo talking to her isn't it that your " guadern angel" should be your forefathers? Secondly she said she will teach her kids how to heal doesn't each an every person get to be initiated by a gobela than just being taught at home? I can't say I'm a Dr and my kids dont need medical school I'll pass on the skills here at home.

[@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009]

Okay let me try n make you understand...b4 colonism each home had it's own healer from the family...the Ntsalintshalis wouldn't come to Mbonani family n asked to be healed bcz by spiritual law, Mbonani's shouldn't know the Ntsalintshali issues/ways of doing things to avoid witchcraft...yes in nowadays we go consult/ thwasa under other surnames bcz we lost many things during colonism n apartheid era. That is why we have people who get scammed bcz the other person bcz jalous n do wrongs things to that person but as time goes going to thwasa outside your family will come to an end since we will be knowing abt our roots n which herbs to use for a specific kind of ukuthwasa which will make it possible for the parent/ sibling/ cousin to help the young one. ...that's is why when one goes to thwasa they find out that their Gobela has a similar gift(s)...Gobela will know n be told what to do but there will be things that are not shown to your Gobela, that they will be shown to thwasa only e.g a certain herb(s) to add on iGobongo that your Gobela gives to you, bcz ancestors are different n every herb used serves a certain purpose to that Gobongo. That is why it is important for Gobela to listen to their thwasa(Gobela helps in the process but it is your Dlozi that initiates you)...according to spiritual law every family should have a spiritually gifted person n that person will give birth to a spiritually gifted child n so on but we still have people that refuse to accept their gifts that is why we still go to other surnames to ask for help. The forefather issue, I'll try to make it short...Ancestors choose a person with a pure heart...it may look within the family n see that no one is fit to handle that particular gift n choose an outsider...there is another white woman who is a sangoma that got her gift from the person who donated his/her body part to that sangoma lady. So SPIRITUALITY IS LIKE LIFE, IT HAS GOT NO FORMULA

[@nelisaponi3021]

@@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009 Thank you, I can't wait until awholelot of knowledgable and enlightened people like you are more compared to the many other existing out here yhooooooooo. This is an opportunity to learn who we're qa we're so lazy and want to be spoon fed Oko. Even if now, a whole lot of us still come up and share your sentiments and school of thought alot will still question this phenomenon and choose easy which is to be laid back and wait on Rele to share another so called moving/ interesting episode which is so sad. Meanwhile, such conversations should open up real dialogue and we use this space constructively. This conversation shows that we need to start probing about spirituality not passing judgement and the depth of the whole realm cause ubungoma is just ONE ASPECT of spirituality so we can learn and be better.

[@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009]

@@nelisaponi3021 Tnx, what is happening does not scare me, people criticize change until they get used to it...e.g. people had issues with ladies wearing pants but today it is now a norm. but also here people will comment basing theirs comments on racism not knowing that in spirituality there is no race and no gender. Also google, it's not only black people who believe in ancestors, other races also do( Roman Reigns in wrestling...their race has a cartoon movie also that shows a young gifted child being groomed by the grandmother)...basically all races have their own ancestors n within each race there are gifted people that heal spiritually. LET'SDO RESEARCH.

[@nelisaponi3021]

@@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009 Power to that💪💪💪💪💪!!!! More love💝💝💝💝

[@nelisaponi3021]

@@mbonaniphiwamandlamandlakh6009 For me personally, I'm finding this conversation very funny because for starters it shows the level of ignorance to say the least in our community Precious Jesus. The irony of having cultural rights to something we clearly don't comprehend so well. We're not even invested to learn about. It's amazing how, knowledge is really the commodity of kings. Phofu, mind you we're living in the information century at the touch of a button but the level of ignorance is beyond me I tell you. Let's put aside the history of who we are and what colonisation impact has had and dive into the basics of ubungoma and what her dress attire tells you and how if we held such information this conversation should have taken a different turn all together from the word go. I see all sorts of critical commentary but no one is pointing the obvious facts why? Because it's simple, we are engaging in a space we literally have no knowledge of and clearly not taking time to learn anything besides claiming that it's our birthright so weird and funny the level of entitlement I tell you. She's wearing a Mndawe cloth, at it's early stages of development and acknowledgement. Where does it originate from and how, why she's called for it? We don't know but quick to judge and crucify, share feelings not facts about ubungoma. We don't know simple basic facts why because we're the unlearned bunch ready to share our two cents of thoughts. First of all, what's Mndawe spirits and where do they originate from? Mndawe spirit is a WATER SPIRIT. Originally from Southerneast of Africa Mozimbuque, Zambia, Zimbabwe etc. It's best initiated that side but can be initiated here as well as time went by. These are all your ancestors that died inside water. Here, in SA, it's because of the war between the Zulu Kingdom and the British Empire and the fact that we're originally from Africa as our people moved seeking for employment and would die anywhere but at their homes before PROUDLY SA existed. So who doesn't have a water ancestor? Secondly, the reason why her answers seem off, it's because the spirit she has embraced is not fully cultivated, matured and purified yet. If she was wearing the blue Mndawe cloth and still exhibit such an aura something definitely would be off there. How do you then engage with people who don't even know the basics of ubungoma and how one can have such a spirit. It's not a new movement in the bungoma spectrum all together to witness many wearing or having all these other spirits besides Nguni spirit which is by far the most popular one in our community (wearing white and blue beads) and I can't think of the other most popular one too. But our naive bunch are out here praising how great Lebo's journalistic skills are and missing the point. So sad, we're really not ready to effect change in our community at all. Once many are in agreement, it's game over.

[@molemzakakamba5648]

Thank you ❤️🙏🙏

[@angieblazing]

This lady looks troubled, the way she was fidgeting with that ring big ups to lebo and her ability to keep a conversation going. You're an extremely talented and skillful lady, this interview wouldn't lasted for only 10 minutes with me

[@ladye1253]

Hands down, Masterpiece 🥰🕯💥. You are a natural

[@tutouringplug_rsa5387]

Also who's ancestors gift is she carrying because as a white she has white ancestors so how is she getting black names n following black traditions ...n also she is generally weird, as if she doesn't want to speak.... Sangomas speak from knowledge of spiritual and physical world she speaks more about physically

[@sceloncalane1240]

You go girl, forget about all those who criticise keep up the good work

[@TJ-my9nh]

This interview was not "easy"

[@Leetso]

Eish yah neh ke gore I don't know what to say about this lady.. I don't feel it😩 but who am I to judge...

[@mphomonyai9321]

I think passing of Gogo's husband left pain in her