My M140i is now STAGE 2+! Will it Reach 500hp?

[@NoorJosef]

So as everybody including myself said, no way was the DMS map putting out 486hp in your previous dyno video. DMS always lying about their figures it’s crazy. Glad you’ve seen the way and got a proper tune by the guys over at QSTuning 👍🏽

[@DjNikGnashers]

I got shot down for saying the same thing. 480 BHP is bang on for these mods.

[@NoorJosef]

@@DjNikGnashers absolutely! 480 with these mods is spot on!

[@TimChump]

DMS said my 116i is running 300 whp now 😂

[@moa6324]

Wasn’t it 460bhp before? Turns out a few of us on here were correct in that those previous dyno run figures were overly inflated

[@scotwilson4169]

*Comment/like here if you hate the pops and bang maps* I'm interested if I'm the only one who hates it Did you choose to have those pops and bangs? I don't know anyone who actually likes them, but they're even worse on the M140i because it hides that beautiful straight 6 sound on deceleration so all you hear is that chavvy machine gun sound. On the dyno I noticed it, I think it might be 2nd or 3rd gear deceleration where there were barely any pops and bangs so you could hear the straight 6 and it sounded 😍 They sound mapped in (which I've always thought was so chavvy, like fake exhaust tips), because my old motorcycle which was 1200cc In line triple with an arrow exhaust and remapped popped and banged a little bit, but not like a machine gun. I'm sure someone will know what I mean, high performance engines do burble and pop a bit on the overrun, but not chav central. Anyway, I know pops and bangs are popular now so you do you mate👍 maybe its just me that doesn't like them (hates them)

[@grezza3421]

Can't stand them either mate, natural is way better. This fake mapped in stuff is rubbish. Sounds stupid, makes you look stupid, and tbh it's just my opinion but I can't see it doing the engine any good.

[@jdmguy44]

I think these loud exhausts that crackle and pop sound shit tbh.

[@pauljames3514]

It's as if that's all he cares about sounding chav

[@vote4pedro]

Sounds rubbish

[@vote4pedro]

Pops n bangs .... poop on wangs

[@xHSGaming]

The pops and bangs sound absolutely awful.

[@jdmguy44]

@Balls Deep Agree. Really don't see what is so great about these exhausts that crackle and pop. Doesn't impress me at all. I am impressed by engines that sound great - pure engine noise, but I think there lies the problem. Most new cars with high performance engines sound very bland. A loud exhaust is the only way they can sound interesting and characterful - if that is what you think they are....

[@AndyfromSurrey]

Hate to say it, but I also hate the pops & bangs.

[@j.f.4765]

@Balls Deep all zf auto has farts when you put an aftermarket exhaust. They also come with small burbles standard but his are too much. Each to their own. But if he loves it then my opinion dont really matter. Hahha

[@Lewtom6]

agree 100% - way to much effing popcorn on the overrun

[@SChapps]

The pops and bangs trend needs to end

[@blackjackzw]

Noise during acceleration is an indication of power, decel popping just sounds like the tune needs leaning out. Fully agree with your statement. Even Fiat 500s pop 🤣

[@IamJackPot]

I got my car mapped by DMS and I'm not particularly happy with it (despite them saying it's making 460 with my stage 2 M240). Now watching this video and looking at what their figures and mapping reads on another dyno I think I'm gunna go get my car mapped by these guys.

[@Addselwyn]

Did you get your car retuned

[@owen3214]

I see you have dash cams installed - can I ask which ones you went for and are they easy to install to the M140? Cheers

[@danbushell8964]

Great results luke! Very concerning for me knowing my M2 has been previously remapped by DMS claiming big numbers. Think I’ll be visiting somewhere to get it mapped again.

[@SH7SH7SH7]

Try NVM motorsport, he has great custom tunes and has an M2 himself. Check his KZbin channel out

[@ryancox3834]

@@SH7SH7SH7 second that. Mabz is the dogs bollocks. DMS inflate numbers and let cars climb the rollers

[@v811gfg]

Got to agree with other comments the noise is just too much' It's fine to have a bit but this is way too much.

[@nickng5857]

Wanker sound

[@NickF14]

Great sounding engine just ruined by those pops and bangs. I'm sorry, it doesn't do it for me :(

[@GNLPR0DUCTIONS]

Big L for DMS 😂

[@vollcare4076]

First thing you need to change on M140: the bouncy stock suspension (damper) 2nd: LSD 3rd: depends on your priority...exhaust or power of you like

[@65BravoS86]

În your previous vidéos you said that thé m140i runs stock 335-340 hp. After thé gpf delete you said it ran 363, and after STAGE 2, it got up to 486 hp. So when or why did it go back down to 430 and only after thé stage 2+ it again reached 480? At thé beginning of this vidéo after reading thé title i was sûre your m140i was going to get to at least 500, maybe 520...so, what happened ?

[@Gentlemen_london_]

Your right! I've been in one with the same conversion as yours and i was shocked how quick it was! You'll surprise a few super cars with that. 👍

[@pavelovcear1274]

At DMS this tune will show 600bhp on their dyno😂😂😂😂

[@simonfranklin6434]

Listening to that thing on the Dyno with headphones on - Jesus!!!!

[@tankergraffcy]

Wasn't your car already been making 485bhp as you have shown at a previous video?

[@Buck3366]

Why the hell didn’t we get the XDrive version of this car over here I’d have one in a heartbeat but the only thing that puts me off is that power in the wet not hooking up. I’m literally ready to buy a car ( 140 and 240 on the list) and all fingers are pointing to 4 wheel drive as the roads are like shit 80% of the time.

[@ScottPC]

We never got it as it didn’t work with RHD.

[@SH7SH7SH7]

I’ve got a 240i and with Michelin Pilot 4s tyres, it does put the power down quite well. But especially with winter, something like an rs3 or a45 would be better for grip

[@scotwilson4169]

Next best thing is the 340i X drive i guess. Obviously more expensive if you buy brand new but most don't anyway. Just pick up 1 for the same price with an extra 20k miles?

[@NomadJRG]

@@scotwilson4169 can't even get those in the f3x gen only the new g2x gen. Only way to get a f3x xwd car is the 330d or 335d

[@Addselwyn]

Are you still on stock dampers

[@johnmacgregor3501]

He's getting a supra gave it away big time lol

[@tracktimevideos5164]

Really? Basically the same car, pointless.

[@lastnamefirstname520]

It’s ridicoulous now! Awesome, but be careful mate if the rozzers catch you with this piece, you’re dead meat hahah

[@jim8462]

Its chav loud but that’s just me

[@That1ne92]

No such thing as chav loud in a 6 cylinder car... well, no such thing as chav loud in any car with an engine thas not a 4 cylinder with less 100hp😂

[@Matthew-jn7ss]

Mines is asbo loud in sport and sports plus, but compliant in comfort and eco with the flaps closed.

[@That1ne92]

@@Matthew-jn7ss Yh I got a stock one too it’s shadow edition not sure if that changes exhaust or Na

[@Buck3366]

Yeah for me it’s hit far too extreme now and it’s gone beyond what I’d say is aurally pleasing. It’s up there with my mates b16 civic type R on a straight pipe for “ my exhaust fell off on my Corsa” kinda loud. If it’s all about complete loudness just remove the exhaust totally .

[@jim8462]

@@That1ne92 my M2lci has had the middle silencer removed it sounds perfect raw power from the 6 cylinder and enough noise to make peoples heads turn like what’s that. This just makes peoples heads turn and think what a dick. But to be fair driving it must be fun.

[@Ricky26uk]

I thought when you had it stage 2 it was running "486"bhp🤔

[@John-fo9jy]

I was thinking the same 🤣

[@tankergraffcy]

Me too 😂

[@scalla1989]

Me three 😂

[@j.m140i7]

Me 4 😅 psh unreal 🙄

[@paulliin]

If you want more need big turbos 🤡 you know it ! 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@chrisjohnhyman]

Nice hot air filter.

[@propanex8162]

🤣 clearly don't know how a turbo car works ?

[@lastnamefirstname520]

Propane X or maybe you dont know?

[@lastnamefirstname520]

Racey..... hahahah open house airfilters are bullshit indeed

[@chrisjohnhyman]

@@propanex8162 I used to have a tuned M140i running E30. I know for a fact I made more power with the factory air box than an open pod filter on the dyno. The turbo is directly under that air filter on the B58 and without shielding and without significant airflow you’ll pull a lot of timing because of high intake temps. But that’s just my experience from hours and hours of dyno testing and thousands of miles of logs with MHD. But what do I know?

[@tracktimevideos5164]

@@lastnamefirstname520 totally depends on the car and the positioning.

[@charlesb7319]

Hay mate hows the fuel consumption after the new fuel pump did it get much worse lol how about in eco too?

[@harryaustin9223]

glad to see you have realised that no m140 is 486 with stage 2 haha 450-460 is 👍🏽

[@ryanhogg1690]

Stan ward ? Ecotune Glasgow ?

[@ChrisClifton]

I'd be more concerned about the flames and the life of your turbo but hey ho. For the neigh sayers about DMS maps I had my 340i mapped by DMS in August 2018 and they logged 444.3. 5 months later I went to Surrey Rolling Road and they showed 454.0 bhp. A friend had his 440 mapped at DMS and he got very very similar numbers to me on their dyno and on SRR's dyno.

[@MGDM4]

DMS has an incredibly long record of over reading cars. As the saying goes, fake it till you make it!

[@DubC]

Catless or sports cat? I’ve also got a stage 2+

[@kevinlambo4310]

Also did your car not reach 480 bhp on other dyno or was it 430? I had stage 2 by ecotune and it reached 430 with 470ft lbs

[@scottallen7957]

That’s what I thought this car was already 480bhp

[@kevinlambo4310]

@@scottallen7957 yeah very confusing 🤔

[@Matthew-jn7ss]

It was on a garbage dms dyno which heavily over inflate their numbers.

[@ym8342]

Get those roof bars off ffs

[@Buck3366]

It looks like next stop IKEA. Very odd indeed🤨

[@da_baracus4280]

Do you need to get the gear box re-flashed?

[@Smyveee]

Hi mate what plugs did you use and what did you gap them at? Cars sounds amazing just too many pops n bangs for my liking.

[@clubsportf56s48]

Probably stock B58TU plugs. Not gapped.

[@kevinlambo4310]

Hi was the software done by Stan ward ecotune???

[@liamszafranek5459]

I would be interested to know this also. Ecotune is local to myself and I would be keen to get it mapped next year

[@kevinlambo4310]

@@liamszafranek5459 yeah im currently stage 2 m240i done by stan would be interested in stage 2 plus

[@liamszafranek5459]

What power did you make at ecotune?

[@kevinlambo4310]

@@liamszafranek5459 it made 430bhp and 470ft lbs 638 nm of torque however I noticed my charge pipe had a slight leak this has been changed with mmr charge pipe and genuinely feels better im going to get another dyno run just to see how much more I have the car drives so well and with xhp gearbox software its lovely to drive

[@liamszafranek5459]

Who done the xhp for you?

[@sammc37]

What’s the best turbo upgrade for m140

[@instastories6209]

What’s your average MPG?

[@thecommentator6694]

I'd say about 7...

[@Bob-sy7ln]

Just for info could you recommend your vehicle insurers? I’m always on the lookout for a good quote to cover mods...

[@M140Lee]

I'd love to know how much this sort of work and set up costs if anyone has a rough idea?

[@vollcare4076]

TU fuel pump ca 1000€ Decat 300€ or fully legal 300cell HJS cat 1400€ Map: 400€ MHD or custom map probably more expensive

[@andrewlee5237]

Great video Luke, just recently had a stage 1 done on my 140 at DBS Automotive, achieved a figure of 470BHP on the rolling which even surprised the tuners. All I have done is added a performance air filter and a replacement intake pipe. Not sure I will go any further without uprating the springs and suspension as well as an LSD. 👍😃😃😃

[@jasonelliott8101]

Do you have any 100-200 times

[@pedru471r]

Nice video mate. Which spark plugs did you get?

[@gamingninja3512]

Yes bro love to see that

[@ells-aviation]

3:35 didn’t know Timo Werner worked there ?? I’d take some of the pops and bangs out to the odd few personally

[@mad_aboutwatches1143]

I think Luke needs to do a video to explain the power figures!!

[@gobjectz5225]

What exhaust system do you have?

[@Tom-ez2sw]

He has stock with a res and GPF delete, plus a cobrasport downpipe

[@MrYaks]

Question : How do you get flames like that his flames are insane my m140i is running a stage 2 map on the BM3 tune though i dont get flames like that can anyone give suggestions or help would be much appreciated !!

[@TheLeverOne]

12:42 Its like a dragon, man

[@petergalbraith3422]

It sounds pants, ruined it.

[@gtiguy76]

Would you like to ride in a mk1 golf gti

[@kjtsitko]

This is already brutal. I cannot imagine what PURETURBOS M140i must feel like! Keep up great work.

[@GTRuppsala]

Or the TTE580

[@GW_FIT]

The things a machine! What you hitting 60 in?

[@stickky1012]

Are u running a stock intercooler ?

[@vollcare4076]

Why not? The Mahle water charge air cooler is Good for 600hp

[@j.f.4765]

For stage 2+ why didnt you get meth? You'll get over 500 just for cooling purposes. Shocking results from dms. More bhp gets around 430-450 on a stage one with 630nm...

[@kirisgarage8590]

Amazing 👍

[@Lewtom6]

Wow - yr stage 2 vlog 25 July quoted 486bhp at DMS dyno post their remap. Here Alex at QST quoted yr car pre stage 2+ @ 430bhp......either QST Maha dyno is too conservative or DMS dyno was massively optmistic.....Oooppss

[@finnrattrie2015]

Your turbo loves the pops and bangs I’m sure

[@hampshirephoto]

Loves it

[@derekporter66]

previous 430 HP and 530 nm? don't they do around 530 nm stock anyway?

[@vollcare4076]

Yes

[@derekporter66]

@@vollcare4076 nice tune then. I was stage 1 at evolve and got 422 and 635nm. Now stage 2 it's alot faster. Not had it dynoed yet though. Just need the xhp map now. Not sure if worth It

[@jdmguy44]

I bet this car will have a short mechanical lifespan.

[@Neojeff123]

Yep 😂

[@jackhaddley2875]

Your other video said you hit 470 on the last Dyno run...... So what going on

[@65BravoS86]

Hé said 485 în the vidéo that he let his girl friend drive it and she "broke it", so really what did happened ? Did hé detuned it, or wtf ?

[@Curtbag1999]

@@65BravoS86Where he last had it mapped they had purposely slackened the tie down's enabling it to 'climb the rollers'. Tuners often do this to increase the figures, whereas in fact its quite a lot less (10% sometimes!!).

[@ajh5552]

That is ridiculous. If you were to pass a traffic cop while it is back firing like that, they would be taking your car off you. Seriously man, no respect for pedestrians, pets or farm animals. That car will be getting an asbo slapped on it anytime soon. If it doesn't go bang itself. How long before the clutch starts slipping with that amount of torque?

[@jamiedickinson5112]

Clutch in a ZF auto?

[@ajh5552]

@@jamiedickinson5112 Yes, all auto boxes have a clutch. Some have a single plate clutch, some have a twin plate clutch. Depends on gearbox manufacturer.

[@Mac_F87]

@@ajh5552 you sound like a right wet blanket. By the way it’s multiple plate clutch packs in a ZF8, 3 packs in total. The gearbox is designed to take a lot more torque than this car is producing.

[@ajh5552]

@@Mac_F87 Everyday is a school day. Thanks. No need for that comment though, was there?

[@Mac_F87]

@@ajh5552 so it’s ok for you to spew a tirade of negativity? Then when a minor bit of negativity is directed back there is no need for it? I think over the top pops are crap but don’t see the need to be so overly negative.

[@yuguo6449]

I am worrying about your gear box.

[@AlexSeddon11]

Don’t.. pure turbos run 660bhp on a standard tranny. 8ZF is really strong, can handle 750bhp and 800nm

[@ScottPC]

ZF can take a lot.

[@ryancox3834]

Gearbox is sweet. People running 700 with it no problem

[@clubsportf56s48]

Pure turbo runs the ZF8 of the 435D. It's stronger. This one is ZF8-50. Other one is the ZF8-80 i believe

[@tonyv7589]

Good vids as always ,, but . WTF U said 100 nm more TQ ??? over st2 and similar power ,, can we see the two graphs side by side ,,,, the info was confusing 🤔

[@mphomabula8532]

Love your car man, super slick Now M140i is my favourite car of all time

[@gamingninja3512]

You should race on Vmax with other M140i drivers

[@yourname6732]

Take some boxing gloves 😂

[@yourname6732]

Previous dyno was 486 bhp😏

[@smilepermile888]

I saw some instagram clips of LivingLifeFast and DMO Dee Jay having a proper fist fight at Vmax200. I hope to hear your outsider's perspective with what exactly went on whilst you were there today.

[@Magezzz]

I wanna see what llf looked like after it was a guy in a grey hoody laying into him

[@SteezyG]

oh my days, didnt know about this till I saw your comment. It's utterly embarrassing to see grown men act like this. I used to read about this level of "beef" when I was 15 in school 😂😂

[@Chris-nj1mr]

Who won and where can I see this?!

[@streetcat666]

@@Chris-nj1mr kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3XOiqqlZrmkqMk

[@Chris-nj1mr]

@@streetcat666 Cheers Dan, I found it in the end by searching YT. Ridiculous, Ricky basically got jumped. I hope DMO gets the old bill knocking on his door for that.

[@Honky_Konky_Phooey]

Nice to see Alex doing something 🙄 , In very good hands indeed #QSTuning#🚀

[@TomDavies86]

Very nice mate, love your car!

[@nathangilmour4493]

Litchfield sent me away saying I had 465hp in my m140i, got it dyno'd when home an it was 425hp... don't know how these places get away with having such a good name🤔😂. Maybe just my bad luck, did get a refund but was a wasted 2000 miles going there twice as I live in scotland and warranty is now fucked. Been told new hpfp would fix this too, wonder is some of the b58 pumps are weaker than others?

[@Beardchanics]

Sweet, sounds like a proper weapon now! Looking forward to the vmax200 footage.

[@smilepermile888]

Including the fist fight that Living Life Fast had with DMOdeejay at vmax200 too?

[@Beardchanics]

Cars and their performance are what interest me, zero interest in their disputes, so if it's in footage it will get skipped like boring "me" chats do :)

[@grezza3421]

Car looks well and is producing good power, obviously the previous dyno (stage 2) was optimistic at best. Personal preference but I couldn't live with the pops and bangs. Cars sound so much better natural, and I feel everyone else thinks what a tit when a car rolls bye sounding like an ak47 🤷‍♂️

[@STEVEBHPDEVON]

You have created a beast 😀👍cheers steve 👍

[@ganuv]

You don’t need the extension you just need to turn the connector on the TU pump ,charge pipe is useless on the b58 and MHD is the best platform for OTS maps stage 2+.

[@wosa9461]

It’s loud... but awesome!! So near to that 500!

[@StaceyEllis1968]

Release your insurance details, who is mad enough to insure you to race around?

[@Bijanbani79]

He prob doesn’t declare any mods

[@TheWorldListens]

@@Bijanbani79 Wouldn't be the smartest move when you're broadcasting it on KZbin

[@Addselwyn]

Not sure how people are insuring decatted cars with no ppf in place

[@StaceyEllis1968]

@@Addselwyn not sure how hes insured given the way he thrashes about and then broadcasts it

[@markrhoden68]

Be interesting to get some times done. Truly savage car now

[@brettroberts1073]

Hi Luke, i really hope you're well in the mist of this. Love the content, i have a quick question, where did you get your logo stickers printed?

[@one40i19]

Torques a bit disappointing, running 680nm stock hardware

[@swagitup1brown102]

Sick 🔥🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾

[@MGDM4]

DMS = Doesn't Mean Shit

[@MeatloafMelvin]

Dyno numbers are not a good metric. Track and 0-60, 60-130, 1/4 miles are much better. Dyno numbers will vary GREATLY from one to the next, and that dyno sheet is worthless on the track.

[@ebonymoorby9101]

your selling it

[@spent808]

Velly nice.

[@TheIggy861]

right, who did the first map then😂😂

[@dannymcgoldrick8188]

DMS I think? Made 470 on their dyno if I remember the video right...

[@GNLPR0DUCTIONS]

@@dannymcgoldrick8188 actually made 489 on their dyno 😂

[@dannymcgoldrick8188]

@@GNLPR0DUCTIONS lol it gets worse...

[@neil4089]

Massively inflated DMS numbers.

[@Mursounderground]

What exhaust system do you have on it please ?

[@Maranello261]

Sexy figures them Luke. Just had charge pipes, a chargecooler rad upgrade & stage 2 dyno tune from NV Motorsport in Birmingham on my M240i. 458bhp and 712nm. Have an upgraded clutch coming next week as I’ve worn through the stock one hahaha!! 🤣 Question for you: Do you recommend a new LSD or go for a 2nd one? Going to need one me thinks haha 🤣 Great vlog mate. We’ll have to put mine and yours together at some point if you fancy?

[@That1ne92]

A company called kelford have aftermarket camshafts and valve springs for the b58 that would probs give an extra 40hp

[@j.f.4765]

Standard internals can handle 750bhp

[@That1ne92]

@@j.f.4765 Yh but valve springs allow u to rev higher and with cams the engine will naturally produce power in those higher revs plus with a turbo that loves high rpms it’ll make a good bit more power

[@freddieb1903]

Nice 👍🙂👍

[@davidcupra4913]

Great figures but annoying it hasn’t reached the magic number 🙉

[@samsonmashabane4146]

why the poop on the roof?

[@Mark-ir9gl]

Watch his other videos 😁👍

[@phantom2k10]

Beast!

[@raihanhussain4188]

DMS was full of shit!!!!! Lol

[@Smartsparky]

What is the fascination with the pops and bangs Luke? Personally........ yes personally...... To me it sounds utter trash. No hate, just my opinion.

[@TomEnduro]

I had to mute it during the dyno run... Bloody awful exhaust.. If I had that car and it sounded like that, I would never bother switching it on..

[@nigelchambers1742]

Roof rack gotta go

[@pawilson1978]

Epic. 👍

[@TikTokVideos-sd3ej]

Your old Golf R looked way better :(

[@Ed.Focuss]

With car like this still driving like a bitch. 1.6i is your level bro

[@jkfotonet]

Awesome looking car but it suffers from a severe case of irritable bowel syndrome

[@thecommentator6694]

So much negativity in this comment section lol, what are they all here for?

[@SunnySingh-fd8wn]

Forget about the LLF DMO beef. Wait for someone to bump into this guy at VMAX 😆

[@thecommentator6694]

@@SunnySingh-fd8wn ?

[@frankm9498]

If you want to reach 500bhp maybe you need a bigger intercooler

[@vollcare4076]

No, on the the N55 yes, but on B58 not needed