My Masking Suffered Until I Learned This

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Matt Kloskowski

Matt Kloskowski

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@alanm.6096
@alanm.6096 5 ай бұрын
This is such a common problem that Adobe should design a new Halo Brush that simply brushes away any edge glow. So easy and obvious! You also want to be careful with adding clarity as that can create problems as well. Which could also be an Adobe fix.
@hakeryk
@hakeryk 3 ай бұрын
No, you won't get it but You can have AI generated tiger that looks like graphics from PS2.
@sarahbatsford4791
@sarahbatsford4791 Ай бұрын
Many thanks for this. Love your tutorials.
@richgarey6079
@richgarey6079 5 ай бұрын
Another approach I’ve found works well is to do 3 quick steps when selecting the sky: 1. Select sky 2. Subtract sky 3. Invert Sounds odd but for some reason the sky select and subtract impacts slightly different pixels along the edge and when you then invert you end up with a much cleaner sky selection. Sounds weird but give it a try. Attribution- not my discovery, I first saw Brian Matiash show it on his channel.
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith 5 ай бұрын
Simon d'Entremont has a good video with that trick too
@bruceatkinson932
@bruceatkinson932 5 ай бұрын
Instead of subtract / invert you can just intersect the sky mask with 'Sky’. It gives the same result.
@richgarey6079
@richgarey6079 5 ай бұрын
@@bruce-le-smith Yes, I saw that one too, along with others. Wanted to credit Brian since I saw his first.
@richgarey6079
@richgarey6079 5 ай бұрын
@@bruceatkinson932 I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.
@marcelgoodman6769
@marcelgoodman6769 2 ай бұрын
Good tip with the large brush. I tended to use a much smaller one in the past. More effort,less benefit!
@davidtaranzaphotography3324
@davidtaranzaphotography3324 4 ай бұрын
I wish that Adobe added a variable "feather mask" feature into the masking panel. That would bring masking in Lr to a whole different level.
@scb1620
@scb1620 5 ай бұрын
Using the "Blend If" function on Photoshop layers can be a great way to remove halos.
@sandylongoria1348
@sandylongoria1348 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video!!!!
@heredownunder
@heredownunder 4 ай бұрын
To avoid the issue, I do the opposite to the mask by making the sky lighter towards the horizon. I use a graduated mask for the sky area, so the darker effect is 100% applied to the top part of the sky and it is maybe around 25% at the bottom, therefore voiding the halo that can appear.
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith 5 ай бұрын
great tutorial, great shirt. subscribed
@jameshogg7842
@jameshogg7842 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Matt again. I find adding automask to the large feathered brush
@hani7up
@hani7up 4 ай бұрын
Use the brush with the auto mask active, and bring the luminosity down and paint carefully. Works.
@cmichaelhaugh8517
@cmichaelhaugh8517 5 ай бұрын
I’ll have to try this. To date, I’ve dealt with the issue by doing the sky selection twice before making modifications. That greatly refines the edge of the selection from the first pass.
@JimEmbury
@JimEmbury 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Matt. Much appreciated.
@kfacpa
@kfacpa 5 ай бұрын
Great vid... I've also used clone stamp and "darken" for dark foreground or "lighten" for lighter foreground blend modes in PS....
@Julius_S
@Julius_S 4 ай бұрын
A technique i use frequently is to brush negative clarity and sometimes negative sharpness with a large feather over the sky/foreground boundary - it can help ease the transition area. No viewer will notice the insignificant loss in perceived sharpness. I'll often combine this with a luminance mask selecting the highlights with further negative clarity, which can help "bloom" the sky light onto the foreground a bit, further obscuring any halo.
@timknight6258
@timknight6258 5 ай бұрын
LOVED this tutorial.... !! I think it will help in other situations also.
@reidnorthrup2688
@reidnorthrup2688 3 ай бұрын
Excellent. This has been a problem for me.
@PeterKambey
@PeterKambey 4 ай бұрын
thats a nice trick.. thank you..
@Ronin760
@Ronin760 5 ай бұрын
Great tip. Thanks!
@berkletheclownsvideos2461
@berkletheclownsvideos2461 5 ай бұрын
Awesome technique! I love it! Thanks Matt.
@warricksmith5178
@warricksmith5178 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. As with many things in PS, there are many ways to get the same or similar result. Up till now, I've gotten good very results in eliminating halos by using the clone tool, sampling from the appropriate part of the image, and using the darken or lighten blend setting as appropriate.
@txduggan
@txduggan 5 ай бұрын
No one is going to notice the darkened trees? (~9:43) Work with real estate agents and homeowners much? LOL I'm being facetious, but you'd be surprised what these people pick up on. I'm going to use your second technique on my next RE shoot and see what happens. I always enjoy your content, Matt. Thank you for always sharing!
@JohnEboyee
@JohnEboyee Ай бұрын
I seem to have luck turning sharpening to 0 before messing with the sky or performing overall processing work.
@Keith80027
@Keith80027 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing this and thanks to the other commenters on their solutions.
@KenToney
@KenToney 4 ай бұрын
Love your shirt, just bought a new Gladiator.. my 3rd Jeep!
@JeanSolari-b6r
@JeanSolari-b6r 5 ай бұрын
Was the problem made worse by the initial, global increase of Exposure on the photo? Would it be better to use selections to change the exposures on the sky versus the foreground? Second question: would the select sky intersect with select sky technique work equally well on the complete selection of the sky without any darkening of the background? Thanks for your great teaching and wonderful knowledge of Adobe products.
@TC_Conner
@TC_Conner 5 ай бұрын
Great tutorial, as always Matt! (Simple to Stunning course is great as well!)
@smaran13
@smaran13 5 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for making this video :)
@kevins8575
@kevins8575 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! I liked this technique. And bacon.
@davidgraeme-baker2612
@davidgraeme-baker2612 2 ай бұрын
Yes, Adobe could easily (?) add a mask “grow” and mask “feather” tool to the dialogue. Or am I wrong ?
@b991228
@b991228 5 ай бұрын
Part of the problem with masking in new skies is that photographers in editing are not observant to the fact that to attain a natural look the light from the sky rebounds off the ground which results in a gentle lightening gradation flowing above the horizon line at the ground. Then if any elimination of fringing is necessary you can go into Photoshop and use an added empty layer that is set at darken mode to use the eye dropper to select the sky tone and use the brush tool to paste that color over the white fringe. Set the brush at a small size with reduced flow. The fringing will disappear.
@DLMVegas
@DLMVegas 5 ай бұрын
Thanks much for this video......
@michaelrobinsonphotography6552
@michaelrobinsonphotography6552 Ай бұрын
Just wondering why you don't use Automask? Thanks!
@josediazh3890
@josediazh3890 4 ай бұрын
Muchas gracias.
@BenSussmanpro
@BenSussmanpro 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, very helpful technique. I only use these masks subtly. I cringe when I see some of the work on social media
@royceahr
@royceahr 4 ай бұрын
how does your technique compare to using the sky brush that is in the sky replacement tool?
@MattKloskowski
@MattKloskowski 4 ай бұрын
I haven’t compared them but give it a try and feel free to post back about your results. Thanks!
@TheSpiderPan
@TheSpiderPan 4 ай бұрын
What would be the video equivalent to Lightroom (or can I adjust my video in Lightroom?) I haven't used it before. Might be useful.
@ruivasco5122
@ruivasco5122 5 ай бұрын
In my opinion, using ACR or Lightroom, the best method to reduce halos is to create a 2nd mask for the heaven/earth interception zone.
@waltertomashefsky2682
@waltertomashefsky2682 5 ай бұрын
OMG, post processing is getting so involved and complicated and takes me so much more time. Masks, Gen AI, external sharpening tools, DeNoise plug-ins. I’m loving every (extra) minute of it!! Thanks for these tips and techniques that help me do it better.
@JohnEboyee
@JohnEboyee Ай бұрын
I've been using luminosity masks to locally dodge, burn or colorize almost exclusively after pre-adjusting white balance and contrast if needed. Going in with a plan for the photo and spending less time behind the wheel with good technique has simplified and sped up my workflow dramatically. But yes, I agree it can be complicated and time consuming if you let it be with all the advanced techniques that are throw at us on the daily by KZbinrs. A lot of the time less is more, but that starts with a photo taken under decent light with good exposure and critical sharpness.
@nonexman
@nonexman 4 ай бұрын
Question: why did you bring down Exposure instead of Highlights? To my eyes, I see much better results in skys by bringing down Highlights, but maybe I'm missing something.
@MattKloskowski
@MattKloskowski 4 ай бұрын
Hi. It looked good to me and is the more typical adjustment for most people.
@tomgrigsby5401
@tomgrigsby5401 5 ай бұрын
nice shirt :)
@DavidRDay
@DavidRDay 5 ай бұрын
If your shirt wasn't a gift from @BlakeRudis, you should get him one!
@mauriciolee7349
@mauriciolee7349 5 ай бұрын
Thank Matt for this INFORMATIVE video. One question, please. I have looked at the information of "Simple to Stunning" course on your site. My question is Do you use Lightroom & Photoshop 2024 for all the steps in this training whenever possible? I know when you use AI features they will be from the latest version but how about other things like Selection feature. I have seen so many tutorials from other people who use old version of Lightroom & Photoshop. They are a waste of time to me because I have to spend time to figure out on my own how to use the new tools that are much more efficient. I know just basic Lightroom & Photoshop. Thank you very much for your time.
@MattKloskowski
@MattKloskowski 5 ай бұрын
Hi. Please check the FAQ on the course page and that’ll help. Thanks
@mauriciolee7349
@mauriciolee7349 5 ай бұрын
@@MattKloskowski I've found the information I need. Thanks a lot.
@PaulParkinson
@PaulParkinson 5 ай бұрын
My technique: Step 1. Complete your processing workflow, save and resize the image to final. Step 2. Create a layer in Photoshop and change the layer designation from 'normal' to 'darken' in the drop box in the layer window Step 3. Select the clone stamp tool and set it to around 15 px and 0% hardness Step 4. Enlarge the image to 300-400% Step 5. Position the clone stamp on the background adjacent to the halo, hold down the alt button and click the left mouse button, release then re position the clone stamp over the halo Step 6. Left click the mouse button and holding it down drag the clone stamp over the halo and watch it disappear Step 7. Continue this technique until the halo has been removed or reduced to an acceptable level
@ahaysom
@ahaysom 5 ай бұрын
This is how I do it too, gives a faultless result if done well. Thanks for saving me the time of typing it out :-)
@PaulParkinson
@PaulParkinson 5 ай бұрын
@@ahaysom I forward this as email to clubs where I have judged competitions and found halos in images - hence the copy pasta from an Evernote note!
@Nazareth434
@Nazareth434 5 ай бұрын
Isn't there an "expand mask" process?
@MattKloskowski
@MattKloskowski 5 ай бұрын
Not in LR/ACR
@Nazareth434
@Nazareth434 4 ай бұрын
Ah, ok thanks- that should be a request for literoom and acr. So handy to have
@davidf6326
@davidf6326 4 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to understand the programming logic/challenge that causes these halos. Is the fringing present before the masking, but the exposure adjustment makes it more visible? If not, why does it suddenly appear? And whatever the cause may be, my simplistic view is that the fix is just a case of the application determining whether the pixels affected are part of the sky or the subject and adjusting them accordingly. If that's not possible, wouldn't the recently introduced generative fill be one option for automatically removing the halo?
@MattKloskowski
@MattKloskowski 4 ай бұрын
Hi. It appears as a result of a contrast between foreground and sky because natural light wraps around trees and other edges. But when you to make a perfect selection around something that is imperfect you get them and it’s usually from doing something unnatural to the photo. Best way to avoid them is to not make an adjustment that reveals them in the first place. In short it’s not really a programming error and in my opinion is more of the person editing error. Thx
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