My New DMD2 Nav System | Never going back to Garmin 2024

[@rallynor]

Just another great video!! 😃👍 And we are really happy to see you over here, on the dark side. 😎 Thanks for the shout out!! ❤ Best regards, Team TURTEK

[@tshansen]

Thank you so much Dennis, and thank you so much for the support with the dongle. Can't wait to see what comes of all this in the upcoming years. And we really need to let people know that there is great support here in Norway as well. Team TurTek, SKÅL!

[@adambosak6962]

Oh Lord !!! Thomas . Finally you get it 😁 I have been using tablet for many yers now . Garmin was good at the start but never met my demands . Then was Carpe Iter and now we have DMD by Thorx . Welcome aboard 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Enjoy it mate . We need to meet some day and chitt - chatt a little 😉🙃

[@tshansen]

Hahaha, you are allowed to tell me all about it mate. I'm so late to the party it is embarrassing 🙈 We need to hook up when I'm getting back from my next trip, I'm back in October. 🔥

[@kennethvernonprivate]

You da man!! Welcome to the DMD community......All the best.....☺

[@tshansen]

Thank you so much Kenneth. Appreciate it, and you know what they say. Better late than never 🙈

[@DragosRDS]

I had this system for 2 years ever since there was the carpe iter pad. It saved me when I had a mud blockage with my GS. It is really hard to write here how it saved me but I promise to tell you all about it when you come down here in Romania at my cabin. Congrats on the video and enjoy the nice device !

[@tshansen]

Yeah, I have gotten the impression from some of your videos how happy you are with the system. I really can't understand why I have been so reluctant to try it myself? Like it was to new or scary. But it is never too late to learn something new, and I'm glad I did. Can't wait to come down there and visit you mate. Me and the two others are planing it every year 😂

[@DragosRDS]

@@tshansen One day Thomas, one day you'll come and ride the Carpathians !

[@tshansen]

@@DragosRDS that you have my Word on mate 🔥

[@kihestad]

It's a really impressive system, both the hardware and the software 🤩🤩🤩

[@tshansen]

Yeah, it is absolutely amazing, are you getting the app for your new tablet? Would be cool to compare on our upcoming trip how the two devices perform with the same software 🙌🏻

[@kihestad]

@@tshansen I have the DMD2 app installed, but not tested it on the roads yet.

[@tshansen]

@@kihestad Perfect... then I hear your garage screaming. Get out there and finish the bike. We have a place to be 😂

[@b3hulk]

Finally , the algorithm suggested something useful. I have been looking for a standalone unit since getting lost using google maps, looking towards the Garmin but this video seriously made me reconsider.

[@tshansen]

Thank you mate, really glad you found my video and you found it helpful 👏🏻

[@JEmmertz]

It does look mighty good. Bright, crisp and very very responsive. Will keep it in mind for the future.

[@tshansen]

It is just like google maps on a smartphone really responsive, great screen, both with and without gloves. This is the future, and I can't see anyone being remotely close to what these people have put together.

[@Braapncamp]

Cool Tjommi, it will be very interesting to see Your progress with Thork Racing's nice package for ADV navigation. I really like the way You put this out with the last sentences about the people behind the DMD2 doing doing what theybare good at for us riders. Thats appreciated by me as well. Great vid Tjommi! 👍

[@tshansen]

Yeah, it is finally fun to plan routes, collect waypoints and really geek out on this stuff again. Everything just works so perfectly togehter. And the new group ride feature will be sick as hell. You and the braaaap boys will love that. Yeah, I feel people who spend so much time perfecting a product that does so much for us, we really need to appreciate that more. And it can't be said loud enough. Thank you for the support tjommi, you know I love it 🙌🏻

[@Braapncamp]

​@@tshansenHehe, recognize that! To geek into new stuff. That makes a hobby alive and if it's really good it it also add joy and a more effective hobby, some even game changing. Good stuff gets good support ☝️😁

[@samhill3496]

Good report TS. Since I don't have a current Garmin unit this makes the decision to get DMD2 much easier. I like and appreciate the convenience of electronics. Could intercom be run thru this unit? One less device on the bars. You aren't a fool. We all learn as we can. It's the change we have trouble accepting. Confidence, knowledge, training all help this situation. Robert has done a great job in the training segment. Everybody listens to a man who wheels a sword like Zorro. All good. Get those rides in while you can. Next time.

[@tshansen]

Unless you are a hardcore road rider, there is no point considering a Garmin unit. I really did not think to much about having the different options so available. I had the phone in my pocket, but every time you stop, you need to take it out, do a search etc. It just takes to much time and effort after a long day. Much better to have it easy accessible on the dash. Well, I might not be a fool, but I feel like it when I know that I have convinced others to jump on the Zumo train and it feels a little bit bad. But like you say, we learn, we become better and the worlds spins every minute. Yeah, Robert has done a great job with showing how capable this devices are and how well it all works together with software etc. Next time mate, stay safe ☕️

[@13toothmoto]

Very impressive overview of the DMD2 suite of solutions! And top notch video quality. Welcome to the party, you are not too late and perhaps your perspective is enhanced after the many app/hardware improvements which have been put in place before you arrived. It's the remote that drew me in a few years ago and I still can't believe Garmin hasn't figured out how important this is for bikers. You didn't spend much time covering what DMD2 combined with a remote can do, but it's a game changer for ease of app use while riding. Cheers!

[@tshansen]

Thank you sir, and highly appreciated. Always nice when people are impressed by my creative outlet trough videos 🙌🏻 Well, I do think, after so many years with Garmin, I know exactly what I want and need in a navigational system. So it is easy to be impressed when everything just works. But on the other side, it is really easy to be disappointed when stuff does not work as planed. I did not spend too much time on the controller in this video, because you really don't need it for the system to work perfectly. Yes, it is an insanely useful addition to it all, and one of my key selling point for this. But I need to cover more of that in a stand alone video for the ones who have interest for it. I don't want to come off like you NEED to have the controller for all this to work. (if that make sense) I will also make a video where I try out roadbook for the first time and how well every thing works regarding that. I hope that more beginners find the joy in trying new stuff with their bikes in the future.

[@sorenmelchior]

It looks like a nice alternative. Where I live in interior Alaska I need the satellite communication with the Inreach system, and the piece of mind having the SOS button on my Garmin Montana 700i. As there are many locations here without cellular service, and in this region the Inreach has better service than other satellite communication companies. So it can really depend on where one is traveling, on what system is preferred. I do wish there were more alternatives, so this is nice to see someone developing competition for Garmin. Thanks for the installation video, and I look forward to further reports on how it works for you.

[@tshansen]

This is a really god topic that is not addressed enough. With the new satellite communication with iPhone now, I'm not sure how that holds up against in reach? I know for a fact how well inreach works so that is a system you can rely on. I would would rather get a mini hanging on my body, than have it on the sat nav on the bike, but it is still an extra cost that you need to take into consideration. Damn, this is actually a topic I should consider doing a video about 🤔

[@williamb.6918]

@@tshansen Personally I have activated the iPhone SOS more than once when it was in my pocket using both button call method options. In both cases the phone was hot and angry so I was neither able to stop the SOS or even shutdown/reboot the phone. That was enough for me. I will not be using it again until I have very high confidence it cannot readily trigger a false alarm while just in my pocket on a ride. Regarding the 700i, the downside is that device is on your bike, if you get separated from your bike for some reason you may not be able to activate it. I always carry my mini on my person and somewhere I can actually reach it in case I get pinned under the bike (which has happened) or separated from the bike.

[@WMOTO-blog]

Great video, it had me finally convinced that a DMD is a must have on my 2021 Yamaha XT1200. I don’t go that much off-road but it seems to be a brilliant device also for an ‘average’ biker that enjoy both tarmac and a bit of gravel 👍

[@tshansen]

Sounds like you enjoy much the same as me, and this is a perfect device for that usage. Extra nice is it how well it handles tracks, recordings and navigations towards point of interest etc.

[@REDFred]

This seemed to take ages to arrive to you! Happy you finally got your new Toy ;) love the effort you put in making the video, seemed like you really enjoyed the process. Hope to read your comments on my videos again soon 😂 btw, those connectors are not meant to be shrunk with fire 😂

[@tshansen]

It was by choice so I could get my hands on the latest modell (865x) That was not ready earlier this year. Haha, you know me, the devil is in the details. I absolutely love the process, when I get exited about stuff I get creative. I will be back in the comment section really soon mate. I'm working on 3 different projects at the same time here, back to work again and finishing up some productions before I'm heading out on a new 3 week trip 20 of September. But I will watch your new series, but I want to take my time to enjoy it, not rush trough it. Are they not? how do you shrink them then? blowing air on them 😂

[@jasondunn8313]

What a great piece of kit. I run the dmd2 software on a S10 phone. Not as good as having the big screen but it’s great. The dongle that’s syncs rpm etc is awesome. The only thing I find with it is it doesn’t give you much warning via the audio when you need to turn… settings maybe?Interesting to see how the unit on your mates Cagiva compares Great video👍

[@tshansen]

I really like how you can run this software on any android device, it makes it so much more accessible for people. I mute all of that stuff anyway. Don't want any audio in the helmet or from the tab. I'm looking forward to test it up against Hestad new tablet and see how it goes there. And I'm looking forward to see and hear his bike again. It looks great now .

[@jasondunn8313]

@@tshansen His bike is looking great and I’m very impressed with his 3D printing. Happy riding🙂

[@EnduroFun4Life]

Interesting video. I just removed my Garmin Zumo XT from the Tenere yesterday. After using Apple Carplay with a Carpuride W702 on my Husky 701 for 3-4 months, I have now installed it on my Tenere. I mostly use the Scenic app for navigation. In the city, however, I also like to use Google Maps for traffic information.

[@tshansen]

I see a lot of people trying out there different CarPlay options for their bikes now. This might be a better direction for many when it comes to navigation and easy access to their most used app's. I use google maps a lot also, but more to find places with their satellite images.

[@advseeker]

Good video and it was nice to see my name on there, too 😅. Community is also super power of this product that is absolutely true 👍

[@tshansen]

Haha, I really had to think twice where I have seen your name before and yes. on the community page right? 🙌🏻

[@TheDirtRoadClub]

Welcome to the Dark Side! We have cookies!!! 😁

[@tshansen]

Haha, I have my hand deep down it the jar by now 😂

[@TheDirtRoadClub]

@@tshansen Don‘t be shy! There is plenty more to discover! So get deeper into the jar.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Saw Robert's video, now yours, Thomas - DMD-865 X is quite a feat. Lot of good things makes it a wanna-have item. After a day with Garmin's old 390 and tiny tracks showing up I'm tempted to swap. Seems that system is made by motorcycle enthusiasts. Thanks, Günter/Nürnberg

[@tshansen]

Yeah, Robert was fast with his one, I had to much stuff to mount before I could put a video together 🤣 If you try this, after owning a 390, you will be extremely impressed, no doubt about that. This system is tailored for Adventure Motorcycle. I'm so impressed by it I find myself playing around with it more than is healthy I think 😂

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@tshansen Sounds tempting, Thomas. Christmas is coming up ;-)

[@tshansen]

@@enduromotorradtouren hahaha, i know! I think Santa is bringing me a new tent this year 😂😂

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@tshansen How do you know? ;-)

[@tshansen]

@@enduromotorradtouren been a good boy 😂😂😂

[@advswede]

DMD2 works fantastically well. 👍

[@tshansen]

it is a really impressive system 🙌🏻

[@advswede]

@@tshansenI am very satisfied. Then there are always new updates with new features, etc. After two years of use, I have a hard time finding anything better.

[@windinthewillows6248]

Evening Thomas, I think the wire connectors are called, Solder seal wire connectors. 👍 Garmin are so behind the times now, the processors they use in the units are very slow, where as all these new alternatives seem to work so much better. The DMD2 looks brilliant and the remote is a big bonus too. You could basically remove the Yamaha instrumentation, and just have the DMD2, although I guess you don’t get the mileage reading and the fuel and temperature gauges.

[@tshansen]

Solder is the right word, I thought it was to close to soldier 😂 thank you for adding this info Solder seal wire connectors... need to write that down. They are absolutely fantastic. Garmin is not even playing in the same field anymore. From what I can tell they have all their focus on watches. But what irritates me the most is how incredible slow and painful the syncing between the explorer app and the tread app is now. after the latest updates. It has rendered the unit useless for my needs. Maybe there is a way to set up the ODO to fit, I have not put to much attention to that yet, but a lot of it you could replace yes.

[@ADV_Agenda]

I just bought a GasGas es700 that has that same setup, I can't wait to use it!! Great video ✌️

[@tshansen]

Congrats on the new bike mate. Hope you will have a great time on it. Glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers ☕️

[@Maarc]

I use DMDv2 on a galaxy active tab 3 and it work well too, the only stuff that is less convenient is the brightness when I have the sun reaching directly the screen, but I stand up and problem solve (create shadow ^^) And damn it is a great app, I share your feeling about the developers of this one. I use the barbuttons opensource controller (really big but do the job for me as I do not do rally ^^)

[@tshansen]

I have an active tab 3 at work, running Locus map and some other rescue apps and streaming. And I know what you talking about. I find it to be a little bit sluggish from time to time, but I think that is more on the Samsung bloatware than anything else. The DMD2 app is for me one of the most brilliant thing I have tried so far. And I have been trough most of the apps that is available on App Store today. That is the beauty with this, you really can make all of this work with so many different options. And that is perfect.

[@Hoektandje0001]

Love your videos😍

[@tshansen]

Thank you, nice of you to say 🙌🏻

[@kedwardsTWO]

Well. Your Norwegian rain destroyed my tomtom rider 550 the other week when I was over there. Will be keeping this in mind when I decide to buy the next satnav. Probably spring 25 now as Salt is coming, and my bikes are salt shy.

[@tshansen]

You get to test your gear properly here in Norway, that is just how it is. Sorry to hear about the rain damaging your TomTom. You should really look into this if you like a better system. And my bike is allergic to salt as well. I hope to get one more month out of the season 🙏🏻

[@kedwardsTWO]

@@tshansen yeah I got hit by what I can only describe as a wall of water. There was liquid sloshing around under the screen. Not going to lie, my bike and kit took a heavy beating that rain storm. Even my sleeping bag inside a dry bag, inside a dry bag was damp from the moisture in the air. And being military I like to think I know how to pack my kit to keep it dry.

[@tshansen]

@kedwardsTWO Yeah, and people always laugh at me when i tell them how it can be up here sometimes! There is a reason why our tent are built different, why we do like we do to keep dry! But you need to feel it and experience it for yourself to understand

[@NordicAdvRider]

A very well executed product. 👍

[@tshansen]

Indeed. Really impressive tech and software. I'm having a hard time expressing how impressed I am

[@900ssnuda]

Last words about development and cost....so true. Wish that more people will start to think like that.

[@tshansen]

I really hope that too mate. It's unbelievable how much negative stuff people spread because something does not fit with their reality or what they are willing to spend.

[@PatchedBandit]

Great video! Definitely the system im installing next too 🎉

[@tshansen]

There is just no competition mate. I have used so many apps on my phone and iPad and nothing comes close. With Google Maps, DMD2 and Stegra you are set for life. 🙌🏻

[@ontheroadwithsimon]

I don't own a satnav unit on it's own. But I would seriously consider this over a Garmin for sure when I can afford one. Thanks for the review. Hopefully I can get one before my England to Nordkapp trip next summer.

[@tshansen]

If your planing on bying a new one, stay away from Garmin and just rather get a cheap android phone or tablet, download the software and try this out. And then you can upgrade later when you see how good it is and it fits your needs. You really don't need to spend top dollars to get this system up and going on your bike. 🙌🏻

[@ontheroadwithsimon]

@@tshansen good to know, thanks!

[@norpower7432]

Bra anmeldese og promotering! Min største glede med MC kjøring er minst mulig duppeditter på sykkelen, se fremover og nyte!

[@tshansen]

Takk for det 🙌🏻 Min største glede med motorsykkel er å komme seg ut, være på veien, nyte adventure livet med camping, video og foto. Man blir ikke hindret i å se framover eller nyte av å ha et godt nav system på sykkelen 🙏🏻 Men så lenge vi kommer oss ut og nyter livet på veien er vi alle happy ☕️

[@Crittermoto]

I’m liking that unit!

[@tshansen]

I really liking this unit my self. Damn it is one impressive system and package all together. Another thing I will cover more in another video is how well the controller on the handlebar works. It is just incredible. Congrats with the 12.000 my friend 👏🏻

[@Crittermoto]

@@tshansen thanks Thomas! Looking forward to learning more about this unit.👊🏼👍🏻

[@WikstromADV]

That one looks great. I have tested a bit of the app and it was good. will have to install it again and delete the garmin from the wish list. thanks for a great video 👍🏻

[@tshansen]

Sorry to say it mate, but the Garmin is just not worth the money anymore.

[@agus8080]

Rest in Peace Garmin....it was about time, such bad products and not willing to update with current technology! Thork keep up the good work!

[@tshansen]

Well, for me, the latest updates they did, made the unit less useful and much more complicated to use. I bet we will see a stop in production or they will need to really step up their game. But it looks like all the Garmin effort is in smartwatches and that stuff today.

[@robin.karlsson]

Såg riktigt bra ut. Nu blev man inte mindre sugen på ett sånt paket under vintern. 😂 Bra informell video som vanligt. 👍😃

[@tshansen]

Det er ikke ofte jeg blir så imponert over slikt som dette, men fy flate. Det er bra greier det her. Det er no way back etter man har plukket på en slik.

[@kleef465]

Nice crocs 🤙

[@tshansen]

Thank you 😂

[@psvennevig]

FINALLY! Welcome to the world.

[@tshansen]

Hahaha... thank you Pål, nice to finally climb out from this rock 🙈

[@thetubelesschannel]

Im first :-) Now I will watch the video...watched. I like DMD2 also, tried it on a phone. Better on a big roughed screen of course. Just one question: wont the OBD2 dongle draw current from you battery even when bike is not switched on ? On my GS the ODB reader does (not much but anyway). Nice video easy to follow.

[@krede99]

the OBD is auto off after x minutes when voltage drops after you turn off the engine

[@tshansen]

Thank you Sven, that is actually a really good question, I have to investigate that further and see and take some measurements. 🔥

[@tshansen]

@@krede99 Good to know mate, thank you for this 🔥

[@Maarc]

As it replaced the Bluetooth dongle on the T7WR it should not drain as the dongle is not running when the bike is turned off, but would be good to check to be sure ;)

[@andybell7665]

Great video, as always 👌 The different ways to mount the device to different bikes would be really helpful. For example, is it easy to mount to a handlebar if you don't have access to a high level bar or tower... Cheers 👍

[@tshansen]

I think it would be easy to mount to the handlebar stems etc. But let me see what I can make of that. Cheers

[@PhG1961]

Interesting! Thnxs!

[@tshansen]

You are welcome mate 🙌🏻

[@x-land-camp415]

I use Locus Maps since a few years for 4x4 offroad tours. Now I bought a CRF 300 R and so I found DMD2 on KZbin. It´s the first NavSys other than LocusMaps that I´m interested in. Since 2 month I test it here and there with my old S20+ on the CRF. It has the potential to be my first choice for navigation for 4x4 and motorbike, I think I just need a little more time on, sry, off the road. What I miss is the adjustable automatic zoom depending on the driving speed. And the nature of the tracks often does not match the DMD2 map, at least in my area in northern Germany. But that's probably not due to DMD2 but rather the database. Tack för dina videos!

[@tshansen]

This is really valuable information and something I could have easily missed. I have also used the Locus Map a bit, not that much for navigation on motorcycle, but I really enjoy that app. Probably the best one besides the DMD2 on the market today. But the beauty with the android devices and this options is that you can choose and mix. On Garmin you are stuck with one, and in most cases horrible maps compared to what you have here. It is just ridiculous

[@gerharddahlheimer5485]

I have ridden a longer reply on your topic but somehow it disappeared. 🤔

[@tshansen]

@@gerharddahlheimer5485 did you put a link in it? KZbin takes away reply with url in it

[@gerharddahlheimer5485]

@@tshansen Hallo Thomas. No i didn't I. I am aware of that Problem. In one part I rode about my experiences with the OsmAnd App compared to Locus Maps and DMD2 maps but used capital letters for the entire Name. Maybe that was to close to the Name of that bearded guy half the world was looking for some twenty years ago. Or the comment was just to long. Who knows 🤔

[@tshansen]

@@gerharddahlheimer5485 It's not easy to say. I have had issues where some comments show ut many weeks later than posted. Maybe a bug in KZbin or like you said, hold for censorship or something. I have used most app, but on iOS, not android, I know there can be some differences. The only map I really like is Locus to be honest. I did not like Osmand and Guru

[@ar2dee2]

you should try heat shrink tubing instead of electrical tape. its more weatherproof and won’t degrade over time like electrical tape does (especially from the engine heat)

[@tshansen]

I had that laying around, but I forgot to put it on before I connected it all, And I might do a better job with this if I did use a heat gun, not a lighter 🤣 But I might do some clean up of the wires in the winter.

[@EngineerK]

Garmin is $hite. I am a sailor as well and it's the same story there. Hats off to the developers of this!

[@tshansen]

Is that a fact, did not know that? Thought Garmin was really up the ladder in Sea navigation?

[@kimkelberg]

Looks like a great tool , but also a expensive tool for weekend rides But 👍 a Nice to have ,but think i will manage with my Tom Tom rider , iPhone and a card in hard copy for overview But looks great for someone that rides alot adventures. Enjoy the new tool

[@tshansen]

yeah, I think this comes down to what you really need. I ride so much and would not be without a good nav system, but for one or two weekend rides, I would use my phone or a cheap nav system

[@kimkelberg]

@@tshansen jep and normaly when i ride in Denmark and Sweden, i Can always find a route and always find the Way Home So if i miss a turn or waypoint doesnt matter , just for fun and the good time alone

[@ikbenkoekeroe4777]

i like a garmin or tomtom divice for what it is you can let it fal on the ground and it stil works try that with your fone or tablet and you do to many other things with it, it distacts you of enjoying yore ride

[@tshansen]

Yeah, I liked Garmin for what it was for many yers as well.... but it's not true that you can drop it to the ground anymore. Maybe the old units. But as a road navigator it does a really good job and you can choose yourself how much or little you want it to distract you. Same with the tablets. Like I take away all notifications, calls, sounds, music etc. I only like navigation and the ease of using more than one app togehter with weather widget.

[@kaaregb]

Hi, thanks for another great video, Thomas! :-) I’ve been using the DMD2 for two seasons now, and I’m really happy with it. And with the T865X, it looks like it’s going to be an even better experience. But have you figured out where the recorded GPX files are stored? I’m planning to set up automated storage of the files to Google Drive, but I’m having trouble finding out where they are saved

[@tshansen]

I had to do some research, ask support and by now, google drive can't access your trips recorded. But with the new ADVHub they are about to launch, there will be synchronization with the web portal for all your recorded tracks, trails, routes, waypoints etc. Same with cloud backup. So there will be a good solution for this anytime now.

[@murraybown2502]

Been a user of the DMD2 hardware 865 for quite some time, never going back to Garmin or or GPS's.

[@tshansen]

Glad to hear I'm not alone. 🙌🏻

[@oeboeloe05]

I was waiting for this video. Looks like the answer to all the garmin annoyances. Now I want one!! :) I like to listen to music while riding, can you install apps like spotify and youtube and use those while navigating?

[@tshansen]

Yes, you can even customise the home screen to have a separate media player control. I hate to admit it, but Garmin is just not cutting it anymore. it is way behind in both tech and software. It is ridiculous how big the difference is.

[@oeboeloe05]

@@tshansen awesome, thanks for the video! I've been a Garmin fanboy since the zumo 550 era, but looks like there are better alternatives now.

[@BlackThor15]

Great video Thomas, you fool. 😁😁. Any info about a future IOS version? Thanks. 👍👍

[@tshansen]

Thank you my friend. Well, I don't think they will make a IOS version of this, I have not heard anything about it either. But would ask if there is any plans of making one.

[@BlackThor15]

@@tshansen thank you Thomas! 👍

[@frankzabriskie2045]

Yea Baby!!!! Thomas…Well that settles it!!! abandon ship !!!🚢🚢 Just take my money Thork just take it💰💰😂😂😂😂

[@tshansen]

Yeah, the boat is sent away for further use to one of my lucky patreons, and I will continue on this ship in the years to come. 🙌🏻

[@UndCon]

A great review of the tablet. The only thing that can bother me is that an 8inch thing is a bit on the big side, especially if u cant mount it in a way so it doesn't cover up your existing dash. Ill take some measurements form the website and compare to an old tablet I got lying around so I can make a testfit of sorts.

They have both a tablot and a phone sized unit or you just use whatever android phone you have. There are also dash relocators for the T7 that could make it easier to mount.

[@tshansen]

I had to cover up half of my dash, and it is really no problem but I understand what you mean. For me 8 inch is really nice. I find 5 inch to be just a tad to small when sitting so far away from it or stand up riding.

[@UndCon]

@@tshansen Yeah, that is my concern on the Norden 901...I need to do some measures for the 8-inch version as eyes are getting older :D On the handlebar it might be ok with the smaller screen (phone)I doubt the tablet looks good there tho.

[@Kurt013]

See their DMD-T665 smartphone.

[@bjornonwheels]

Hi @tshansen/ Thomas! Thanks for another vid.! 🙂 Is the display on the DMD-T865 tablet readable in all viewing angles through polarized sunglasses?

[@tshansen]

@@bjornonwheels that is a really good question! I know my phone is not, so i bet the same problem is in the screen of this one! But let me check thet out for you! Need to bring my polarized sunglases with me back from work

[@ROLISS]

Tnx for this video 😉🤘🏻 your conclusion - Stegra or DMD2 map for usual use?

[@tshansen]

Ooohhh.... that is a tough question my friend. Damn. I would not go without any of them. But I guess I would use Stegra to improve on routes in places I'm not known, and transfer it over to the DMD2 map. Because that map is just so damn good.

[@The_Arby]

Honestly...Just been looking at this in last 2 days and thinking about buying...What was the total amount including all the add-ons for you ??...Glad you did this concise video mate, very helpful 🙂

[@tshansen]

To buy everything that I ordered here in Norway will set you back 17.146,- NOK But you can get away with less If you don't need all the equipment. Really glad you found it useful and liked the video mate. Cheers 🙌🏻

[@The_Arby]

@@tshansen Cheers mate 👍

[@NomadT7]

Thank you Thomas for this informative video 👍 Is the charging mount WATERPROOF, if the device is removed from the cradle ?

[@tshansen]

You are welcome mate. I will be surprised to hear if it's not. But the guys at Thork Racing will give you a definite answer on this mate. I really don't know.

[@darylsummer1424]

Had a look at going DMD2-T865X cost in Australia $1410, only available to order from overseas stock. Samsung tab active 3, 4, or 5 range from $600 to $1100 Australian dollars. Then, the $32 annual subscription. Then a mount $...... The level of detail is better than Google Maps, naming very minor roads and tracks that Google doesn't. The Garmin Zumo XT2 also has great details, also names minor tracks but only costs $800 with free map updates, comes with everything I need out of the box, and in my opinion is the perfect size for my bike. 10 inches or even 8 inches plus a large bezel is too big imo. Update 16sep2024. The more you look at what you get and a all in one solution with support from the one place, the more it makes sense. The DMD 865X unfortunately isn't available in Australia atm.

[@tshansen]

Yeah, it is an investment and there are many ways to go about this, but I thin you really need to identify what your needs are, how much you use the sat nav, how you want to use it and if you ride more than just roads. The XT2 is not a bad unit, but it is overpriced as hell for what you get, and it is only good at one thing. Now I can't even transfer my tracks to the unit I want to follow.

[@Kurt013]

With DMD devices, you have everything unlocked, lifetime. Also, all the system/Android updates, firmware, etc, is made by the developer. And the level of support you get by them, is something extraordinary! Sure, the tablet it's not cheap but you aren't buying just a tablet. 😉

[@tshansen]

@@Kurt013 Well said Kurt 🙌🏻

[@479_adv]

Great video! I don't understand the difference in Carpe Iter and DMD tablet.

[@tshansen]

Well, the difference is much easier for a tech guy to answer, but I understand that it is to separate tablets with different specs that run's the same software? With that said, I have heard a lot of stories with the Carpe Iter tablets. They don't hold charge, not waterproof etc etc.

[@479_adv]

@@tshansen thanks for the reply. I have a Garmin Zumo XT2 and I'm not happy with the interface and many other things. I've been looking at the CI and the DMD branded tablets. I have used DMD2 on my phone so I'm already a fan of the customizable screens and data fields. Thanks for the video and the response!

[@christianchris1434]

How is the brightness in sunlight on The DMD-865x Nav Tablet. And how safe are the charging contacts on the back itself regarding shaking and rain at the same time. It is known that the Tenere 700's bird stick has a tendency to shake alot without an e.g. "Camel's vibration brace"

[@tshansen]

The brightness in sunlight is the best one I got so far. It is even better than the xt2 but it is really hard to capture on video because of the lense on the camera and the screen. It just does not come out the way you see it when you stir at the screen. The charging contact you need to screw into the unit, so that is safe and water proof. The pin connectors in the bottom is also really safe when riding and dust and rain hit. How well it is if you ride without the tablet, or you take it off to use in the tent, and it rains and freeze I have not testet yet. But hope to do that later this season. Yes, the world raid does not fit the Camel Vibrations Brace, but I have my own design I 3D printed and works really well, but not good enough with the stick straight out towards you

[@christianchris1434]

@@tshansen Stort tack för ditt svar Thomas. Har tänkt länge på olika GPS skärmar men det är som en djungel och det gör det svårt att välja vilken man ska välja. Genom din fina video och Robert's plus ditt svar på min fråga gör mig mycket nyfiken på att själv köpa en 865x. Ps. Också stort tack för hjälpen på Älvsjö mässan i Stockholm att hitta rätt storlek på Basilisk byxorna som jag sen beställde på mässan. Stl 36 som du själv har. Passar perfekt 🙂

[@ioandragulescu6063]

every time I watch one of these videos I have to STRONGLY remind myself that I'm an asphalt rat and for me, my old Garmin 396 is good enough. I would get the phone though, the only problem is the actual hardware is a bit outdate for an android phone.

[@tshansen]

Hahaha, that is a good point, Garmin does Nuvi maps and road calculation really well. So if this is your only need, most Garmin devices can handle it with ease. Put it is ment to be a phone? Is it not just a phone size tablet? To do navi stuff, not all the other crap we normally put a phone trough?

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@tshansen that's the thing, I would get the T665, the 865 tablet size is too big for me. And I would use the T665 as a daily phone also, 2 in 1 :). But it has the same hardware inside as my 4 year old cheap Motorola phone .... so that is a bit of a letdown. I guess I could just use it as a navigator, get a data sim card and all but then I'll miss the ability to answer phone calls via the cardo headset .... On the other hand they are about to upgrade to Android 14 which is a plus. Maybe I'll wait until Top Icon release a new version. That's what I found out btw, the DMD tablets/phones are made by TopIcon in hong kong :)

[@LiMcOcOHD]

Thx. For the review. What kind of rear rack do you installed?

[@tshansen]

You are welcome. The rear rack I have is from Perun Moto 🙌🏻

[@LiMcOcOHD]

@@tshansen thx.🙏🏽

[@slogoinrider]

How is it for connecting to satellites. I have the Tripletsk 9 pro with DMD2 and it has a really hard time connecting even in open areas. My Garmin usually never fails in that respect.

[@tshansen]

That is a good question. I find it to connect faster to satellites here in Norway than the XT2. you see that every time I start my bike and run out of the garage. The unit finds connection when I turn on the ignition, the xt2 is not connected before I'm down on the main road. But that could be a software thing. Same you see it when going into or trough tunnels. But how it connect, and how many connections etc you got I have no idea. Maybe a tech guy can give a better answer to this than I can.

[@NomadSweden]

I was first but you made a better video 🖕🏻

[@E-Alban]

Alla är medvetna om din plats, i allt du gör angående DMD2! Du&Thomas är ganska bra på att få ut otroliga videos och få vanliga människor att förstå! Ni är helt otroliga! Med respekt, Alban

[@tshansen]

Hahaha, thank you Dark Lord 😂🙏🏻

[@tshansen]

@@E-Alban Takk, det var en utrolig hyggelig melding å få. Setter jeg pris på, vet jeg Robert gjør også 🙏🏻

[@NomadSweden]

@@E-Alban Stort tack Alban!

[@koskijou]

Which tyres are you using an are they OK also with wet asfaltvand mud etc?

[@tshansen]

I use the Dunlop Trailmax Raid, and they are absolutely fantastic on wet Asfalt. In the mud they can be a bit slippery, like all 50/50 tires.

[@guillaume05ch]

What about the Garmin tread DMD? What is the difference with this DMD tablett?

[@tshansen]

I'm not sure what all the differences are, you might want to ask a tech guy or read up on the specs for each unit.

[@bosse1033]

Thanks for the video! Do you know if the device can show how much fuel is left in the tank? I was thinking of I would get the unit and Mount it in front of my Triumph Tiger dash.

[@tshansen]

As to my knowledge (limited) there is no way it will read the level of fuel. But you set how much on average you get out of one filling, and then I counts down with your trip meter. So it is much the same as having a trip meter read and get a warning when the yellow light comes on.

[@CharlesMartin-q1o]

Medhurst Shores

[@tshansen]

Not sure what you mean

[@DaBinChe]

Is this a euro only mapingnor world wide maps?

[@tshansen]

All maps are available to download (for offline use) but they are huge and it's only recommended to download the ones you need.

[@scoresandflames]

17:27 oops. the poor pedestrian was not let through.

[@tshansen]

@@scoresandflames she was, just after me! There is a thing called fluid traffic in the city’s! This is an example of that

[@ROLISS]

I had DMD2 app on my Samsung Active Tab3 and for pluggin activate need must be purchased. On this tab the same need buy a monthly ?

[@tshansen]

No, if you buy the device It comes with the unit. I guess you only need to pay if you download to a random Android device.

[@patrikbrannlund1968]

Are you depended of GSM signal?

[@tshansen]

No, you can download maps and make them offline! You satelite connection is not defined by GSM signal

[@guillaume05ch]

Is there a way to read rally roadbooks?

[@tshansen]

Yes there is an own page dedicated for it in the DMD2 system. And from what I can understand (reading online) it is the best one out there as well. I have not tried it yet, but will make an own separate video about doing roadbook for the first time and how well it works on the unit.

[@Mikael150381]

Would the software allow live tracking of buddies?

[@tshansen]

Not yet, but I know they are finalising it for the next update. That will come with a couple of other really nice features 🤩

[@VITTELADVENTURE]

Not for apple user right ?

[@tshansen]

@@VITTELADVENTURE you can’t Get the DMD2 to work on Apple, no! You need a android device

[@Driftuner]

Do they make a smaller version of this?

[@Driftuner]

Yeah i just saw on the website there is a 5.7 inch version of this. Nice!

[@tshansen]

Yeah, but you can also download the software on what ever size android device you would like 🙌🏻

[@beejsmusic]

I found those pre made soldering joiners to be absolutely useless.

[@tshansen]

Please explain?

[@feanythmayosh5525]

I find it really impressive. But for me personally I find the tablet too big. But I'm eying the phone version of DMD that they have as well. Which would fit better for me size wise. Looking forward to more videos about it from you.

[@tshansen]

It is really hard to give a good answer to this message without doing an inside joke 😂 but I understand that size matters for some and some dashbords. Will be a couple of videos this fall, and I really hope to do a roadbook as well really soon 🙏🏻

[@feanythmayosh5525]

@@tshansen trust me. I've been giggling about it for a bit. The tablet is just a little too big for this minion🤣

[@tshansen]

@@feanythmayosh5525 hahahaha, like standing next to a 60 inch telly 😂

[@gerharddahlheimer5485]

Yes it works on an phone size device very well, but in my opinion the actual version is to overloaded on a small screen. The older dmd version wich isn't available anymore was better in that way.

[@feanythmayosh5525]

@@tshansen love you too 😘😂

[@thomaskane9298]

whenever i see an unboxing like that all i see are $$$$ signs. It looks like a pricey bit of kit.

[@tshansen]

Yeah, it is not cheap with all the extra stuff, but in my opinion. Worth every penny. But I use it alot. Here in Norway you are set back 17.000,- NOK for everything.

[@ivannestorovic3472]

I drive a car and a motorcycle and I find Tomtom far better than Garmin. However, since I have Navigator 6 installed on the GS, which, in addition to navigation, also has important motorcycle data on the screen, I am condemned to Garmin 😢

[@tshansen]

From what I have understood, TomTom has left the building way back, not doing upgrades, is not possible to route on gravel roads and have abandon their app etc.? Garmin has for me, here in Norway been a much better option than TomTom.

[@ivannestorovic3472]

In fact, Tomtom still has the best satellite navigation on the market, which is updated quarterly, unlike Garmin. Since I hardly ever drive off-road, I can't say how accurate Tomtom maps are off-road, but the mobile app works just as well as satellite navigation, although of course it's not free.

[@182mcg1]

Price kill me start from €500 to €1000 RIDICULOUS

[@Kurt013]

You don't have/need to buy everything, at least all together. Right, it's not cheap, but get a lot with it, besides the hardware. All OS updates, and firmware, are handled by Thork Racing, you have the entire app unlocked lifetime; no monthly/annual subscriptions), and you get an AMAZING support!

[@tshansen]

@@182mcg1 so, please tell me what it’s worth then! How much do you think something like this should cost?