My OLD SCHOOL Mack Fire Engine VS A BRAND NEW Pierce Pumper

I bought a 1977 Mack CF-600 from the Arcadia, KS fire department for $3,000. Today we're going to compare it to a Pierce pumper that's 43 years newer! The concept hasn't changed much but the technology and functionality has improved by leaps and bounds. It was amazing to get to tour the new truck and see how far we've come from the 70s. Plus their both still powered by massive diesel engines!
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[@Cartier_specialist]

Alternate title: *GOTCHA*

[@amherstburgerpicker5786]

Yup! Such a step down?!?

[@dhass1776]

Gotcha

[@johnylong7616]

Gotcha Garage

[@madmex2k]

Roger

[@johnylong7616]

JR is two steps ahead of the firefighters when they're explaining things. Gotcha !

[@aabidamn]

This video has more 'Gotcha' count than the amount of bullets used in all three John Wick movies.

[@luissalcido8575]

Gotchajrgo

[@TWATSON]

The fire truck and warehouse renovation content is 11/10, spent hours in the last couple of days catching up with it all.

[@thomas316]

One good thing about a fire truck is you can just park wherever you want because people will be like "It was probably an emergency." You'll be cut a mile of slack. 😂

[@leewaymodels]

However, one bad thing about having a fire truck is that you can park only where the truck fit, lol

[@coffelt683]

@@leewaymodels luckily in Kansas, that is everywhere lol

[@rp1645]

YES I have driven down the road in my 1971 SeaGrave and put my turn signals on and the cars will stop coming at me, and WAVE me to turn. I am very careful about my emergency lights being always TURNED "O-F-F"

[@drewping2002]

Love it, 3 generations of Fire truck/engine. 100 year old, 40 year old, brand new! All awesome in their own way!

[@ImGdiddy]

Firetruck technology has improved over the years like most everything else. It is interesting to see the comparison to see how far things have come in all those years. FYI: J.R said “gotcha” 39 times (not that it matters).

[@kerrylewis2581]

My parents purchased a house directly across from a fire station in Beverly, Massachusetts when I was 10 years old (1970). That gigantic brick building filled with gigantic red trucks was a little boy's dream. The guys always had time to answer our questions and entertain us. That was until the call came in and the loudspeaker started buzzing and in my mind, they went off to have fun. It wasn't until many years later did I realize being a fireman or police officer was dangerous. Thanks for this video and double thanks to all the men and women who protect and save us no matter how bad the situation.

[@Erik-pr2rf]

think beverly either is getting or already got a new station due to longer larger units... Mass here also

[@kerrylewis2581]

@@Erik-pr2rf The station is very close to Henry's on Cabot St.

[@owensweetland342]

And their station probably didn't have a ramp which is like an invisible barrier separating the public from the firemen.

[@kerrylewis2581]

@@owensweetland342 I drive by the station daily on my way to work. Same building and same everything fifty years later.

[@bobmcnelis3648]

Good Job! Retired Career Firefighter, 34 years! Thanks for the Publicity!

[@robertmyers2813]

Gotcha!

[@BS-np7ms]

over 30 times! gotcha ! haha

[@acmext]

That hosebed is a beaut! 😍 lol. Well designed rig.

[@frankbirkemose4967]

We had 2 CF 600 in our fleet, a 1000 gpm pumper, and a 75' aerialscope. Both were excellent trucks, served use well. Wish we still had them

[@davidshirly7275]

Amazing how every adult male becomes an 8 year old boy again in a Firehouse, grinning from ear to ear.

[@rsprockets7846]

Dad was former fireman in next town over he took me to old firehouse and let me slide down fire pole ... At time he was. A zillion ft tall

[@thecausalgamer7916]

My uncle was a volunteer. They had an 84’ Mack R pumper truck and i felt like a bad ass sitting behind the wheel lol

[@timothyhays1817]

JR you would really enjoy the Pierce assembly plant tour in Appleton Wisconsin. I went up years ago when my employer was specing out a new truck. Since Oshkosh owns Pierce they make Oshkosh Stiker fire trucks there too.

[@stevenhowell9170]

Gotcha👍

[@frankwolf389]

@@stevenhowell9170 Gotsyer Gotcha!

[@davidpick1076]

He might want to consider visiting Air Venture if he ever gets his pilots license. Or just make a road trip out of it if he ever takes up that Pierce Factory tour.

[@bmh67wa]

That new truck is sweet but I'm partial to the Mack because I worked on them for a few years before I got my own shop. I bet those guys love the new one though. So fancy!

[@umad42]

I bet the main reason they like it over their old 01 is the fact that the A/C works lol Any work vehicle can have A/C added to it then feel like a Cadillac by comparison to not having it

[@taelorwatson9822]

That's pretty impressive but thanks to Hoovie's continued support, the wizard is getting an aircraft carrier.

[@julianurschalitz2901]

Love it!!!!!

[@drifter503]

True

[@robertsturtevant6185]

😂😂

[@robertsturtevant6185]

Welcome to Hoovies, i bought the cheapest Air craft carrier in the world, and i gifted to the weezard....

[@rsprockets7846]

Nope wiz is gonna start collecting tanks and apc

[@70kid8]

Watch the video again. Take a shot every time JR says "gotcha". I'm hammered!

[@WatchJRGo]

Hey, I’m here learning this with you all, what else am I supposed to say? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@aarond23]

@@WatchJRGo 10-4 good buddy

[@crownvicca]

Hah got eeeemmmm!

[@johnparrina]

I was wondering if anyone kept track of the gotchas lol. That new truck was sweet.

[@jackofalltrades8933]

@@WatchJRGo apparently not “gotcha” every 5 seconds. Lol

[@sunsetrider45]

"That's like the Farmboss..."... that's cute! The Farmboss is a homeowner grade saw. This is a professional saw.

[@olebloom1641]

Those Dewalt Jaws of Life are awesome. I used to volunteer for a minute and those hydraulic hose ones were a handful. Thanks for the memories.

[@CaindNet1]

I love the fact that the 1991 Mack tanker trucks my department has, have many of the exact same parts as the 1977 Engine, such as the turn signal lever, door latches, pedals, light switches, etc. I guess Mack found/made parts they liked and then continued making trucks with them for decades. Also with the alternator not charging, at least with our Macks, you have to rev the engine above 1200rpm breifly for the alternator to kick in.

[@commodoresixfour7478]

Glad I saw this comment, I own a 73'. Definitely a fun truck to own.

[@johncashler3611]

I worked at pirsch back in the 80's, some old Pirsch's I scraped out. Saving old parts. Mach hub caps, plenty of pirsch components, gauges, blue prints, emblines. I still currently own a 1931 pirsch pumper # x-kenosha engine #2 in the garage

[@firedogs9074]

I love watching old truck content compared to technology of the new trucks! Thank you!

[@martinfrog768]

Thanks for sharing ... So Much Respect for the People who do Fire and Rescue !!! ...

[@joeschannelish]

As someone who worked at pierce, this is a high spec truck. There's a lot of departments that order a brand new truck that is closer to yours than the new one

[@agraham678]

Joined the gotcha drinking game and did some awesome’s too. I will sober up in a few days. 😂

[@BSGSV]

came here looking for this as I figured I couldn't be the only one noticing his nervous tick saying "gotcha" constantly.

[@someone28]

@@BSGSV He does that a lot when someone else is talking. I think subconsciously he is trying to show the other person that he is interested. Either way its a fun drinking game for us. Bottoms up.

[@johnkennedy3663]

The trucks are interesting but I can't help but recognize these guys' willingness to run into a burning building or craw into precarious situations to save the life of a stranger - simply heroic!

[@Sylvan_dB]

My little local fire department does an open house every summer (well, not 2020) where they serve hot dogs and give a tour of the fire trucks and fire station. Amazing equipment. Wish they did not need to use it so often.

[@Dakiraun]

SO cool to see what a new engine has! So much more room, and storage. Oh man, that 1916 Seagrave though - that is gorgeous! The old T-head style engine was about as unkillable as you get; they were real torque-monsters with individually cast (and thus individually repairable) cylinder heads. I love the evolution of the equipment.

[@condowasteland6984]

While in the job in ct I was the only duty pump driver on a 1969 Mack CF 600 / E6 5-speed straight exhaust..The best fire truck in the planet..will put any new apparatus to shame

[@owensweetland342]

Agree 100%. Nothing purrs like a Mack. Very distinctive look those Macks have. I love the MC heavy rescue.

[@kbittorf335]

Pierce started as an aftermarket truck body builder that got into to fire apparatus by supplying bodies for other manufacturers such as W.S. Darley. They originally started producing mainly rural type apparatus for the market in their region of Wisconsin using Darley pumps. FWD in Clintonville, WI purchased Seagrave fire apparatus in the early ‘60’s giving up their Waterous pump contract. Pierce was able to use Waterous pumps and started national sales. The quality of their product was their advertising and they became a major player. Mack built an excellent truck, but a not so great fire apparatus body. Your Mack needed a new body by Custom Fire Apparatus when it was 12 years old. They slowly dwindled out of fire apparatus. Enjoyed the video👍

[@alfe1402]

Factories should make a vintage series apparatus. Very modern trucks, with state of the art features, but with the good old fashion look.

[@cigarjefe]

I rode on a brand new one of these Mack trucks when I was 10 years old.

[@itsnotme07]

Wicked cool video JR! And big thanks to all First Responders out there for their service! Your 1977 Mack truck, $3000. The 2020 Pierce? Guessing $750k fully equipped? Why isn't that first Fire Truck video at 100k likes yet? Let's get on that people and like it!!

[@updog4ever]

Take a shot every time JR says Gotcha

[@TheJeracuda]

you know at least Westen won't have to call 911 next time he sets something on fire he can just give you a call to bring the fire engine over to his shop lol

[@BoostedDeere]

As a volunteer firefighter emt I can tell you older rigs vs new rigs. Older rigs- depending on the rigs it’s a love hate relationship. You like how some of the parts are heavier and better built they don’t go with plastic like on newer rigs. Bad part a lot of older rigs are often worn out Newer rigs-they have typically bigger engines so if you got more gear and more stuff you can run a little faster. Plus better pump and more modern features. Bad part- a lot of modern trucks have sensors and stuff like that burn up or go bad or needs recalibrated. So you I tell everyone that buys a new engine keep the old engine at least a year until you can work out the problems on the new one.

[@MichaelMullane]

Long time subscriber and career firefighter, this was a cool surprise. Keep up the great videos JR! 👍

[@FDMedic78]

Pierce is out of Oshkosh WI. I live in Milwaukee and I see the new trucks and ladders driving down the highway all the time. Pretty cool to see. I miss the fire dept, but I don't miss the sleepless nights and stress the job gave me. I miss running calls and fighting fires. Enjoy the truck JR! You need a name for yours. I say "The War Wagon"

[@richardfarmer6570]

Cool stuff JR, nice plug for DeWalt.

[@bradcaldwell9158]

Thank goodness the overhead door wasn't closed, otherwise I might have been able to actually understand the other half of what was said. The first picture I have of myself is of my fireman father cradling infant me while he stood in front of a Stutz firetruck. Firefighting never held any fascination for me, maybe because I can't stand heights. Neat machines, though!

[@Bumblebee4788]

Amazing new techno for the FIREFIGHTERS!

[@makpsv]

The 1916 truck is a piece of art. Yours is what we were used to see on movies during the 80's and 90's, I always liked them. The new one is nice, but it doesn't have the same appeal as the old ones, maybe it will in a few years. 🤔 A funny thing is the discalimer, it sounded like they would be making some driving maneuvers and have the truck on two wheels or something. What aren't we supposed to do? Stand by a fire truck and talk about it? 😂 I know you have to do it anyways, but I find it kinda funny. 👍

[@ssenssel]

I can watch this stuff all day.

[@scottcol23]

Im glad to see Derby seems to be quiet. I Live in New Orleans and a good friend of mine is a Fire Fighter EMT out of Station 29. He tells me they get a call every 30 min... They have a 2018 Pierce Enforcer.

[@braxtonnelson7422]

All respect to our first responders! Making sure they have the latest and greatest equipment is the least we can do to make their jobs a little easier! It is amazing how small changes and innovations make such a big difference...

[@gregorycasey6629]

Their new trucks are a whole lot nicer than when I was a fire fighter. Military base we were next to used 4 in quick connect on their trucks so the military bought us adapters for our trucks so we could hook up to their hydrants and trucks.

[@jameslongerbone1388]

The gold bulldog on Mack means it is Mack all the way through engine, transmission and rear ends

[@Stick0413]

That Mack CF will be running far after that Pierce is dead. Those old Mack's were truly workhorses. Ran many calls in a 1981 Mack CF and a 1991 Mack Grumman.

[@happycommentator6773]

As long as the red cancer didn't eat up the frame, they would go go go. Unfortunately many a puppy dog went to the scrapper because of rot.👍🇺🇸

[@dlinemusic]

You've got your fingers in so many projects and I'm loving every one of them haha! Keep killing it man! Especially looking forward to the Camaro. Can't wait to see that thing with the body on it.

[@keithmack2368]

Auto Ejects are compatible with any 120 VAC charger. For the eject to work there should be 2 wires. One goes to chassis ground and the other should go the signal wire that engages the starter.

[@jeffeastman625]

^ this.

[@salvadormartinez6118]

Ok gotcha gotcha

[@mickduffy]

Great channel JR. Look forward to following the progress of the shop build. So far very impressive.

[@marhot]

This is definitely in my top 5 of your videos of all time. Excellent!

[@VDPEFi]

That is so cool you could set that up, very nice of the fire fighters too.

[@justinbryan595]

Hey JR... I really have enjoyed your videos. It's been awesome watching all the progress you've made. You are a great human being! Thanks for the entertainment and all the great info I've learned from watching

[@mikeoman7601]

I was hoping to reach at least 50 gotcha’s but you were able to contain it at 45.. Yes, I counted. Nice job at the tour.

[@michaelpascual2731]

Very cool, had a smile on my face the whole video.

[@theadvocate4698]

This was a treat! Thanks man!

[@mikeroeder]

I like the educational sidebar videos, like this and the huge water pump video.

[@sylvainr.399]

Gotcha!!!

[@beezalbub7325]

Gotcha Gotcha, I Gotcha. Just teasing. Nice video JR thanks

[@sergiol.aponte13]

I like JR videos a lot. But sometimes I wonder how much technology we need in certain places. To me, the use of technology for the sake of it just drive prices up and make trucks/cars/tractors more "fragile" as more and more things can break and go wrong. You have to consider these trucks sit around a lot and when they go somewhere they don't go that far. For a similar issue, check out the fight farm tractor owners are having with John Deer and others about technology in the tractors. In a recent JR video you talked about using your great computer to diagnose the many other computers in the car, but "if the failure is mechanical the computer can't help"... :-) We have added computers and sensors everywhere, we now need another computer to diagnose all the computers and sensors in there, and many times they CAN'T help.. :-) "The old truck the A/C was broken"... well, they can be fixed you know... IMHO...

[@erikgonzalez2278]

As a car guy my smile lit up when I seen those dewalt batteries with those jaws of life

[@_dmfd]

I lost it when I saw them sitting next to eachother 😂😂😂

[@lepnin]

That was bothe interesting, and informative.

[@mylt1z28]

JR, the price of that LED light package on that 2020 could buy a fleet of your firetrucks. LOL.

[@KSEmergencyPhotos]

Awesome video I didn't know that Mack ended up here in town and awesome showing off the old & new with DFR, If you ever want photos taken of your truck let me know.

[@MrWoodyBalto]

You know you don't need your own fire truck to be a volunteer fireman right? 😲

[@deanwinchester7179]

Derby has a long waiting list so if you have your own equipment it helps lol

[@dbo4128]

Such humble men 🙌🏻

[@mattclinch1976]

That new rig is huge and awesome!

[@stillliving5899]

Dang, why do I gotta be older than the fire truck, because I just turned 50 this year. God bless.

[@lewiskemp5893]

Lol. Im older

[@bmh67wa]

I'm almost old enough to have built that fire truck.

[@generatorjohn4537]

Wish I was fifty again. Great age for a man. Still energetic enough to do most things and wise, established in life. Enjoy it.

[@philipperiopel1911]

You won't do 50 years old with a Pierce, but with a Mack, no problem!👍

[@owensweetland342]

Got that right! The Mack face is SO much better looking than that Pierce.

[@11cramm11]

You definately gotta pay homage to that antique truck and put a V12 in yours

[@SDMF5000]

"Gotcha"

[@Garythefireman66]

Old Macks never die. Jumpseat all the way.

[@owensweetland342]

Great jumpseat. Very roomy.

[@smplyizzy]

Needed one more “ gotcha” !

[@jonasakerlund9166]

For real, your brand new engine, looks like old crap. Our old Scania P360 from 2001 here in Sweden is way more modern and ergonomic than that crap. Blessed with the real deal!

[@smplyizzy]

@@jonasakerlund9166 what in the world are you responding to?

[@supraswiss]

Used to install compartment doors on Pierce trucks.

[@benschmidt8168]

They make those near me, I probably saw it out on a test drive!

[@vincentjenkins4045]

That was Awesome!!

[@AlfaGiuliaQV]

Impressive and fun day out! I´m always stunned abot how even the newest american trucks still looks ancient compared to our european trucks (no offense)

[@stevenhall3330]

great vid JR best ever!

[@thebrian7channel474]

u should put a nice stereo system in the fire truck that way u have music to listein to when ur driving the fire truck

[@lewiskemp5893]

I love the old fire truck

[@volvogt21]

Great stuff local fire department for showing us yr truck

[@williamschlenger1518]

The pierce has a lot of fancy extras.Does it pump water?

[@paceauto5382]

Super cool comparison of both trucks, technology has definitely came a long way‼️💯#NoCap

[@billholtzman2863]

🧢

[@ssoltys4128]

Couldn’t wait that long you just got the thing

[@Wisconsin.pikachu]

Now you just need to come up to Wisconsin to the Darley firetruck factory

[@clifbradley]

So the old firetruck was a 'Seagrave Ferrari F1 V12 Aperta'? I dig it. I think it's awesome Matt from Demolition Ranch made a fire truck, Angry Cops bought a fire truck, and WatchJRGo bought a firetruck and is going to make it a mobile refueling truck for rally's. Make a small fortune. Pump gas, have spare tires, snacks,...

[@rp1645]

When I looked at the number on back of Engine ( 82) does anyone Remember the great book by Dennis Smith ( Bronx) NY Report from Engine company #82. It was what FDNY FF called the War years. I read the book many times. I love it when I see Engine company use that Number 😊 That book is a must read for all FF. Dennis Smith went on and started the Magazine FIREHOUSE with great menu dinner cooking the FDNY guys did as favorite dishes. In The Bronx at that time in the 1970s the bad kids in NYC would throw bricks at the engine coming down the narrow streets. It actually KILLED some NY fire Fighters when they rode on tailboard or on side of Ladders or engines The ARSON fires were out of control back then, and engine company #82 and #85 were at one time the busiest Fire Rigs in all of America. Mostly lots of pull box FALSi alarms.

[@earlzerba3855]

Earl in Mi this is amzing thank you and all the fire man

[@jsmith198095]

Oh how I miss seeing this truck , and working side by side with it on a few fires with that dept who owned it….

[@Cartier_specialist]

The new trucks are high tech but they'll never beat the Mack for cool factor.

[@rsprockets7846]

Our town had a 47 open cab with the guys riding on back as a 6 yr old watching this rig scream down the street with guys hanging on for dear life was epic

[@snowyowl7042]

Wow, @ 27 mins. Thinking the firetruck should have flames painted on it. Great giving kids rides

[@rsprockets7846]

Good ep and great PR for the DERBY FDto do this...

[@RazoE]

"a 2001" "yeah, 20 years" bro 😭😭😭

[@WatchJRGo]

Yup… we’re all old now 😬

[@69Dartman]

You should see it from my side.

[@b52murph1]

For those of us with "long" military careers...there's this weird reality that we're coming up on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Looking back...everything is centered around that day...pre-9/11 is "ancient history." Post-9/11 is the world in which we live... 😕🤔

[@sparkybutts142]

@@b52murph1 yep... even the people born afterward still feel the reverberations

[@daveh2612]

That can’t be right, 2001 was only... oh. 😢

[@daverunner3397]

I am an emergency vehicle technician, work on firetrucks daily. I much prefer the old ones.

[@daverunner3397]

The new ones are all computers and modules.

[@daverunner3397]

I work for a Pierce dealer.

[@avalanchemaster]

This is awesome, love the fire truck content. Glad you finally got one, best way to utilize that giant warehouse. I have an 1962 international pumper engine from my local Department. They were going to sell it to someone not local when they retired it about 10 years ago. My Dad, being on the department himself decided to buy it and use it as a parade/show truck. Was very sentimental as both my grandfathers had driven the truck when it was in service. Mechanical Everything and double clutch transmission. Leaned to drive stick on it at 13. Had an 80's Mack Engine from Maine as well, but sold it to another fire truck enthusiast who was going to use it as a parade truck. Curious what your plans are for the truck?

[@Rickbearcat]

Take a shot every time JRGo says "Gotcha".

[@jumping438]

Anyone: *says something* JR: Gotcha, gotcha.

[@miguelare3]

Man this was a cool video watchjrgo!