My Opponent Wouldn’t Resign.. so I taught him a Lesson

[@mineshaftrisotto]

Aman kind of looks like a javascript developer

[@charlesabju907]

Oof that's harsh. JS developers are the absolute worst.

[@ac4694]

@@charlesabju907 still better than scrum master XD

[@davep7176]

He looks like a cartoon character from the old days, perhaps a talking squirrel

[@vivvpprof]

I haven't watched a video by chessbrah for about a year or two and maaaan… THIS is Aman?? How… what… when… what in the Matrix happened? I mean, he's not older, just… different. Like the Oracle lol. Has a vaguely similar voice tho.

[@MyToxicMasculinity]

Looks like one of those dudes that has one of those cases. The kind that doesn’t want to show his paperwork for some reason 🤔

[@davidfranklin5426]

Speaking of playing with your food, the other day I saw Aman at a falafel joint in Toronto, lovingly fondling a golden brown ball of fried chickpea dough. Not content to push it around his plate with a fork, he began nudging it down the street with the bridge of his nose, all the way down Spaldina Avenue past the CN Tower, stopping traffic the entire way, until finally he dunked the Levantine delicacy into Lake Ontario. Don’t support these guys.

[@Zzzzx7]

Ur weird for that first statement, Simple.

[@matthew_cramer]

so embarrassing for the opponent. bro was mad, nice rage bait

[@joakim8003]

Yes like put your self in his shoes: "this dude will not mate me, so i'm just gonna stall as long as I can..." (Sad face)/Pwnd

[@jestice75]

Aman was the asshole.

[@ryans9094]

Hikaru coming in hot with the copyright strike in 3..2..1..

[@TheBuddhaBilly]

50+ brilliant moves in one game. A novelty!

[@verstraetenandre]

No one is in the wrong here! You have the right to play with your food, and he can hope for the internet apocalypse to win 4 elo! :D

[@themonkeyjuggler1798]

Aman behaved like a baby to say the least 🤣

[@sam2725]

Sure both players have the right to do what they did, but it's still disrespectful for the 100's of people waiting for them to finnish, so next game can start. Like there is nothing legally wrong, when a store owner raises food prices during shortage when people are starving, but it's still morally questionable

[@wonderfulcrunchberries3926]

@@themonkeyjuggler1798 Definitely a baby move for the opp to stall his last 2 minutes into flagging.

[@davep7176]

@@sam2725 If you are waiting and so impatient for next game to start, find a way to mate him faster next time... Why should he quit?

[@barkman1739]

Technically opponent violated the rule against abandoning. Other than that, he’s technically right and ediquettely (not a word) wrong for refusing to resign. Aman is within his rights to troll the guy.

[@Brekfastmachine]

Nobody was wrong. If you both want to keep playing then you both got what you wanted. Shouldn't everyone be happy that they got what they wanted?

[@thomapple]

I agree as long as it's not holding up a tournament. Then it impacts all the other players too who have to wait for 2 idiots.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

Except for leaving the clock run out at the end. That's against the rules of the website. I would have reported the guy. Moving around is fun and games, but leaving for 2 minutes is not acceptable.

[@blackmancer]

Continuing to play and wanting to continue aren't the same thing.

[@KTheSchnitte]

Aman out there playing snake

[@gordontubbs]

I love the people who tell themselves "just for the record --- you didn't checkmate me, I lost on time."

[@Steve0904]

I’m with Aman here 100%. Personally I would just checkmate the guy, but it’s definitely much more on him to resign than you to checkmate. It’s really annoying when players don’t respect you enough to resign when you’re a high rated player (especially a GM like Aman). And in this position when he has a R+K and pawn against K and increment, I’d resign against anyone rated 1500+ maybe even less.

[@michaelmerk64]

He doesn't have to resign, if you can win and you don't, that's on you

[@laus7080]

@@michaelmerk64 But he won, did you see the video?

[@alexalt2630]

@@michaelmerk64At his level it is stupidity. All he has to do is plant his rook next to his king and walk the pawn up the board unimpeded. But he could just checkmate with the rook and king too

[@DDZGRH]

@@michaelmerk64 Do you understand what is a win in chess? It is not only by checkmate.

[@FrizzelFry]

It this game about who can be the most immature - in that case it is a draw

[@wsemenske]

Nah, the winner is always the one that won the game

[@Ichbinubermann]

lol

[@fumoffu1]

I do that all the time when they refuse to resign. If you get over 300 moves the website starts to break down, even so that it failed to record my longest ever game of 950 moves.

[@Willtaylorchat]

Wow you are a legend my highest number of moves was around 400

[@fumoffu1]

@@Willtaylorchat there's still a race to reach 1000 moves

[@bhamdeezy]

That's hilarious.

[@zulteonka]

but how so after 50 moves of not trading it will be draw

[@Willtaylorchat]

@@zulteonka you can push a pawn

[@kotbegemot-sp]

Should have "written" something on the board with the king at least 😂

[@samlaber6124]

oh yea, this

[@langa77777]

Draw a dick, the classic move

[@scrumpymanjack]

Yeah...like ASSHOLE

[@germaincasse]

writing "GG" or "KO" seems actually possible xD wish the opponent could see it

[@tehjargonz0r]

write out RESIGN with the king

[@jaybingham3711]

14:25 You legitimately could've reported him for stalling at this point. And not so sure that you wouldn't have made TT history...being the first to do so.

[@SylarTheBest]

"it's just a big game of chicken" my man, you were playing SNAKE with your king

[@inmortal009]

resignation in obvious circumstances is good manners to do so in order to not waste time. People may say it's not mandatory to resign, well funny enough checkmate isn't either, show me a rule stating "you SHOULD checkmate your opponents IN THE LEAST amount of moves" You did good Aman trolling can be done both ways

[@P.sherman45]

at low level in any sport or Esport its chaos and there are no rules but on high level, not only in chess but many Esportsm its considered rude to not surrender in a obvious hopeless game. so i say oppo is in the wrong

[@davep7176]

How is fighting on til the very end considered as 'trolling' ?

[@P.sherman45]

@@davep7176 its not "fighting" when even a 200 player can win that position its rude because its just "waste of time" for both players

[@davep7176]

@@P.sherman45 yeah I do get that, but at the same time it's the winners' responsiblity to get the checkmate to force them to win. Nothing in the rules about surrendering

[@P.sherman45]

@@davep7176 yes right, but also nothing in the rules to checkmate as fast as possible. aman did that to say "im not traped here with you, you are traped here with me" after 270 moves he would eventually checkmate but oppo still didn't resign and let his time run out

[@Moltzenn]

I can’t believe there are people out there that are on the losers side, just hold the L and accept it lol like Aman always says ”you’re stuck here w me, I’m not stuck here w you..” continue to play w your food, we love to see it 😆

[@OliverB4LP]

I'm a long time fan of the brahs but in this case I feel like Aman is just being petty. The loser doesn't need to resign and Aman could end the game any time he wanted. He is the one delaying the game. Both of them are within their rights to delay the game but the only one with the power to end it through play in this case is Aman. Who knows he might lose connection or something? The loser guy just waiting has nothing to lose but his time.

[@JosephHansenM]

@@OliverB4LP "The loser doesn't need to resign and Aman could end the game any time he wanted" but also "Aman doesn't need to checkmate and the loser can end the game any time he wanted." The resign button (or handshake over the board) is part of "play" and the loser can "end it through play" too. It's super insulting to not resign against a GM in this position.

[@OliverB4LP]

@@JosephHansenM insulting or not he's within his rights to do it, and if he sees it's getting under his opponents skin then perhaps it spurs him on. Don't like it? Check mate him or delay the game yourself. Works both ways.

[@ragegaze3482]

@@OliverB4LP he did that, and then you called him petty. "Don't like it? Check mate him or delay the game yourself. Works both ways." that's exactly what Aman did and then you said he's the petty one. They both have equal power to end the game.

[@OliverB4LP]

@@ragegaze3482 I'm not saying they both weren't being petty.

[@creamrising]

You're not trapped with him. He's trapped with you!

[@dragonore2009]

I've now employed this in my games. We must win the war against the non-resigners.

[@bleekcer]

How does this help...?

[@imjustsomeguy72]

Look, if he'd resigned, or you'd checkmated, then where would the content be?

[@theinacircleoftheancientpu492]

In a situation where someone is being unreasonable, you either punish them socially, ignore them, or act equally unreasonable.

[@davidwiederman8841]

Saw this live. So great.

[@Nobody-df4is]

You are 100% in the right here. Just have some fun. I always try to make a bishop knight ending. That was not possible in this situation, but TORTURE your opponent for not resigning is completely legit. Ow, and somewhere around here. 7:19 is really impressive Aman. I appreciate that. Fun game! Cheers man.

[@Mecinimi]

I think his opponent is more in the wrong, but Aman equally contributed to the entire tournament having to wait. If this was just in the ranked pool, it would be different. In a tournament with hundreds of other players sitting there, this is rude

[@j-ghull]

You taught him a lesson but he made you sit there for an extra 2 minutes more 😂

[@ac4694]

That’s called entertainment. That guy ate dirt for our enjoyment 😂

[@desireoverpain]

Aman got a video out of it

[@aleguitarra]

He was playing with you!!! 😂 and you feeling the opposite

[@Giltr0y]

Two infantiles on ego-trip

[@shankrl1]

So lame huh

[@BasedGob]

I’ve done this many times before, got to over 1000 moves once 😂

[@ryanmcgoldrick8499]

Ultimate pettiness would be resigning with 1 second left after running out the clock

[@MrKULVIS]

He was probably trolling Aman beacause Aman loves messing with people so he was just having some fun with him

[@MisterDamn224]

Great lesson Aman

[@samuelforsberg1283]

I usually resign when I see my opponent have a clear win. But sometimes your opponent blunder in the end and cause a draw.

[@bjarkenicolaisen4502]

If the opponent refuses to resign in a clearly lost position without counterplay and you have plenty time or even increment, the only logical reason is to provoke and disrespect you. In such situations I make a habit out of humiliating my opponent to the maximum, displaying just how ridiculous my opponent’s refusing to resign is by winning in the most absurd way (promoting to knights, bishops, 6 rook mates etc). Zero remorse. I advice everyone to try it!

[@alexander3293]

2 players shuffling their king for 5 minutes straight

[@PatoLorenz]

Honestly as long as it doesn't break the tournament rules, its fair game for both. If the tournament organizers want it to stop they just need to implement some type of rule and this is a solved problem.

[@mormril]

Honestly, my first comment was wrong. This was hilarious in retrospect.

[@genedios4473]

I'm on the never quit side. Even if the game is effectively over, the opponent may have a brain fart and stalemate. Stranger things have happened even at gm level. More importantly, it's just a game. If you're so serious about it then just mate him and move on. If the question is 'who should end the game?' then the answer is simple; it's a game designed for you to win.

[@Anonymous-ic3db]

In this case the opponent stalled the clock out from 1:30 in childish rage because they didn't get what they wanted in an obviously lost position. The point is Aman could win the game any time he wanted to, whereas the opponent could never win even if they busted out stockfish. Best to just be humble and resign.

[@shonuff2693]

@@Anonymous-ic3db Then why doesn't he just win it then? Really weird to blame the guy for not quitting instead of the guy refusing to win

[@vlnow]

As someone in a developing country, internet can go down, and power. Ive lost from this in a hugely winning position often. So not resigning, you could beat me in a total loss situation if you just hang on long enough for the internet to go down.

[@leeringduckling]

No one is in the wrong because each person is harming only himself. If either player is unhappy waiting, he can end it. Therefore it’s opt-in by both parties.

[@obscurity3027]

You resign now.

[@spasegeek9214]

Would work that way in chinese chess

[@pedromartinstimoteodacosta1710]

Him not resigning under these circumstances is basically saying "I trust your incapacity of checkmating me with Rook, pawn and king against my lone king", to which I believe trolling is an acceptable response. Definitely not a classy move from Aman tho - if you want to be awarded a "chess gentleman" title you should not do that 😂

[@serikazero128]

He obviously wasn't that good and took over 30 moves. You never know when your opponent internet runs out, power runs out, etc. If you aren't skill enough to checkmate you don't deserve to win :)

[@axelbruv]

@@serikazero128 I wonder which scenario is more likely. a) A disrespectful opponent lets the clock run down. b) His internet went down. If you went with scenario B, I have a bridge to sell you.

[@stellarossie]

A cat uses all of his skills to catch his prey. When his prey is wounded the cat plays with it. Then leaves the dead prey on the doorstep to show it off

[@AndrewBeveridge461]

Terrible accuracy on that game

[@donkeyking475]

This wasn't actually a game of chess. It was the classic "Snake"

[@KennedyMister95]

Lmao, totally deserved. He cooking in his own shame for not resigning

[@jackolsson9450]

I hover around 1800-1900, and I do this to every single opponent who doesn’t resign. I feel like Levy and Eric Rosen really made people way worse with this because they preached “never ever resign” for a long time, and everybody took it too literally. No hate towards them but seriously, if you are above 1400 and have just a king left against a rook or more, especially in anything with increment, resign the freakin game, it’s just such bad etiquette not to. I agree with Aman

[@MuseseekerMan]

negative reinforcement is an under-appreciated art, but powerful and most effective in appropriate situations.

[@liamkiney4124]

Hilarious. Can we now dub this the "Kyrgyz Defence"?

[@IcarusGravitas]

The rules exist for a reason. If you don't abuse them, they'll never change. :)

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Could swear it said tilted tuesday.

[@inplfw]

Your opponent owes you nothing. If this were on AITA my vote would be a quick ESH.

[@ethiopianmusicoldies599]

I think you’re both wrong for having your king do so much mileage! Especially Aman - I never saw king doing so much jogging 😅

[@willpanter209]

The object of the games to mate your opponent not expect them to resign cause your up,(it’s nice but not a requirement). Props for the games as always

[@Football-oe4hl]

Aman, you're never wrong after what you did for chess! Should be expected at this point 😂

[@PawelJagus]

I am totally on your side bro! The guy should have resigned.

[@mariondiabolito4054]

A GM is not going to stalemate you. Even an NM isn't likely to stalemate you.

[@jacobsamuelson3181]

Why did he let the time run out. White was clealy winning.

[@andrebenoit404]

Somewhere else in the world at the same moment. Hmm my opponent does not want to checkmate me. I shall punish him.

[@zuzusangry7129]

I think if some one refuses to resign 100% of their games, then fair enough, otherwise just give up and move on.

[@michaelfeher8602]

Hey Aman! I think both parties in this situation are free to do as they please. If bro wants to play til checkmate, that's his right. If you want to play til resignation, that's your right. Are either of you more in the wrong than the other? I don't think so actually. It was a battle of wills and pride. Ultimately he cracked because I think he realized this is your job. You got nowhere else to be 🤣

[@leebumble]

The lesson of surrender is an important lesson to learn. On the chess table and in life.

[@shamassive]

It feels soooo good drawing out a clearly one position. Maximum dopamine!

[@blackdiesel4407]

I played a kid on lichess and he rage quit by trying to let the clock run for 7 minutes so I gave him an hour on his clock and walked away. It took him 14 minutes to abandon the game.

[@modolief]

I, for one, support these guys.

[@j-ghull]

Sitting and shuffling your king is definitely my new euphemism

[@daltonj001]

I'd say he should resigned. But I was waiting for the "Oh, King c3 for the 10TH time.. THAT'S when he knew it was lost. That was the move!"

[@acrylique2976]

If you want to try this in your own games, a word of caution: When Aman said "it might be fifty, I don't know", he's talking about the fifty-move-rule: "The fifty-move rule in chess states that a player can claim a draw if no capture has been made and no pawn has been moved in the last fifty moves." It's happened in tournaments, for example when someone can't find checkmate with bishop and knight vs. King. It's purpose is to prevent someone from winning by tiring out their opponent or stalling, much like the threefold repitition I guess. Not critisizing Aman - it's his right to teach his opponent a lesson for showing disrespect, and his opponent looked like a fool letting his clock run out. But in the spirit of said rule, I think you should just checkmate the opponent and move on.

[@marklelet8884]

Dude waiting for you to slip;)

[@wpgstevo]

You're allowed to play with your food, and your food is allowed to struggle to the end. Personally, I'd be far less inclined and far more embarrassed to be on the receiving end of this.

[@yzfool6639]

I love the idea that you must decide when your opponent resigns. We need to add that to the FIDE rules of chess, so I can also become a GM!

[@philosopher24680]

As a viewer, In general I actually do wish there was less resigning in high level chess. I know this comes across as pretentious but back in the day it was more normal to play until Checkmate and unless they're trolling by stalling on time (say by waiting out most of their time before moving for increments) I think that's better, since we actually get to see the checkmate play out. Chess is a game that is both part science and part art, and the actual checkmate being executed is honestly part of the "art" component. That said despite being nostalgic for a more Romantic style of high-level chess, I still side more with Aman in this specific case for two reasons: 1) There is no potential here for an artistic game/checkmate, it's just going through the motions with a passed pawn and a rook. 2) Whether you like it or not, the current norm is for people to resign in completely lost positions, and the opponent here presumably gets to reap the benefits of that as well. So it's only fair to return the favor to other Masters unless that norm changes.

[@rakibul2010islam]

Imagine how much all other waiting players were annoyed at that time! 😃

[@Nerb1]

I thought the idea of the game was to checkmate the opposition? Maybe im wrong ;)

[@kangaroobz]

Life is too short to be this petty over the internet. I would have just checkmated as soon as possible and moved on. I highly doubt any lessons were learned and the opponent will probably continue displaying the same behaviour in future games.

[@RishabhSharma10225]

Life is about having fun. If you're having fun playing with your food, it's not wrong to do it. Time wasted enjoying wasn't really wasted.

[@Samy-j9h]

​@@RishabhSharma10225 nah life is about having fun is the losers way of thinking, life is about winning and that's the result for this guy in this chess match so prolong it doesn't really do anything. Also if you think wasting an extra few minutes in chess on a clearly wrapped game is fun then you should seriously touch grass

[@Echoes_act_3378]

​@@Samy-j9hjust agree to disagree

[@robertreid2931]

This is satisfying to do, but the only lesson you're teaching them is that you'll help them achieve their goal of wasting your time.

[@Echoes_act_3378]

He is having fun probably so who cares

[@Alekhine01]

It was a pleasure to see! Looked like a dance

[@eaberrydc]

I love when I am up a few pawns and the opponent has just their king. I make as many ponies as I can

[@Ruedigerkackgans12]

I find it's usually a pettiness pissing match. Most of the time the reason for not resigning is out of tilt, then if the other side just checkmates quickly it's not a big deal and they calm down. But of course if the winning side starts doing silly shit out of pettiness too it's like the losing side that is already on tilt refuses to resign out of spite extra hard. It's a cycle of pettiness and spite that can be broken by either one of the parties. Either by the losing player resigning, or by the winning side just ending the game with no bs

[@johnstuart6725]

Play till checkmate. That’s the whole point of the game. Yes, it is still just a game at the end of the day.

[@evansgate]

I resign in obviously lost positions out of respect for myself and my opponents time

[@oscarsanmiguelgomez]

First time I see snake and chess combined... LOL

[@FreddieBr]

I am on your side. Even on my poor 1300 t0 1500 level I hate it if people don not resign totally lost positions.

[@JustinShaw]

Up to you.. Up to the opponent. Just follow the rules.

[@MuseseekerMan]

I've been locking my opponent's king to two squares, with mate in one always obviously present, and then I move my king all over the board and then I push a pawn just like you did. I've been doing that for this past year. I think my way of dealing with non-resigners has spread throughout the online chess world as a result.

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

no, noone is seeing your 450 elo games and taking notes around the world

[@MuseseekerMan]

@@CharcoalBlasterdog The hundreds of people I play every month and that I have been doing this to are all too likely to have been, and assuming my elo doesn't make you look smart.

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

@MuseseekerMan yeah youre right. i have been playing 1. e4 in my 277 elo games, done it at least 12 times this year. definitely rubbing off on the chess community

[@MuseseekerMan]

@@CharcoalBlasterdog 1. e4 is taught to every beginner for hundreds of years. If you can't tell the difference of these things, then you would do very poorly in an IQ test. Your elo must be very low too since noticing what makes moves different and better or worse is important to be good at chess. Are you trying to prove that you're stupid? Is that why you're so toxic? Because you're bitter that you aren't as resourceful as other people? I'm sorry you didn't get the same blessings as the others. Religion is a good way to find peace for people like you. God be with you.

[@kaerzokled]

This is not a unique technique lmao. Next you'll tell me you float all your buildings as a terran or dance in front of the opponents nexus

[@bigbadballernr1]

Ok with not using the highroad this time but doing this more often especially before a break might cost you some friends during TT.

[@Xbotto]

Semetey here. At first I just made some king moves thinking aman would promote and mate me soon. Then he started shuffling the king too and I thought it was funny and for content and we were just messing around to give everyone a longer pause between games. Kinda bummed to see this video, don't support these guys.

[@evansgate]

Liar, why do you actively follow this channel and comment if you don’t support them

[@Xbotto]

@@evansgate you must be new here

[@evansgate]

@@Xbotto explain

[@Xbotto]

@@evansgate I was here when you were doing peepee in your pampers please don't speak to me ever again

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

White has the obligation to continue the game state, otherwise the game will draw. Black has no obligation "so fascinating that people want to play these on" literally applicable to yourself lol

[@davidcotham1939]

I know what you're saying, but nah. The context throws all that logic out the window. They are playing with a time increment. If you think that the IM was playing for draw against a GM in that position, I don't know what to tell you.

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

@@davidcotham1939 the context is that either both of them are playing disrespectfully, or neither. most people are saying only the black player is at fault here

[@Lazy_crazy1]

Its hypocritical to say one was wrong and other was right, either both are wrong or both are right. Rules allow both so both are right. Its just action and consequences.

[@andrewshiffler5653]

2002 spiderman smokin foos out here

[@andrebenoit404]

I had someone offer me a draw when they only had their king left and I had several pawns and rooks and he proceeded to then let the 15 minute clock run out. He got punished for it at least.

[@TrinityEcho]

If there's no increment, always play on. There is increment, so ur just wasting both players' time

[@CharcoalBlasterdog]

if there is no increment, just move your pawn and promote There is increment, so youre just wasting both players time

[@Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet]

Who's wasting who's time in this case?

[@itsodiumchloride9516]

I hate when people do this, I personally throw all my peices till im left with rook king end game and slowly back them until its mate in one and then wait for the clock to reach near 0 and checkmate in the last second. I honestly can not imagine what goes through these guy's head to have mate in one and still think they have a chance. Maybe theyre hoping your wifi goes out or something

[@gabo3color]

like it or not, there is always a chance for stalemate

[@yoooyoyooo]

It's disrespectful.

[@rcdanger]

Fine to play on, but he shouldn’t have let it time out

[@BHPhreakyx]

you are on track with both sides. its also your responsibility as a GM to establish efficient checkmate. think of a king that wants his peasant to grovel under him. the king should not even think about the peasant.

[@joenorsworthy]

I was very much hoping the IM was Levy.

[@Dubstepticon47]

These booty bots are ridiculous

[@chhotu4205]

I am laughing at all the comments saying "Aman is in wrong here" 😂 cry more

[@yoooyoyooo]

They were both wrong, but the other player was wrong first.

[@epicchess2021]

Personally I’d like @@VBKramnik opinion on this interesting matter

[@kats7930]

For all your taunts, you are just on a d measuring contest and I respect him more.

[@unibrowcow6524]

Aman, do you have something you'd like to share with the class? -Aman- Why, yes, a 500 page essay....-whole class- Awww come on Aman, we get it. Just let us go home!