My Overall Thoughts About Revamp Argus & Some Advice ~ Mobile Legends

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ZayedHeroPlays

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@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 18 күн бұрын
Btw I think Red/Yellowgus is my favorite skin now
@natusvincere7330
@natusvincere7330 18 күн бұрын
Epic skin in disguise
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
La mía es del Argus Luz del amanecer, justo antes de su desarrollo de personaje, desarrollo que lo llevo al abismo, literal y metáforaricamente 🗣️🗣️
@Zentrou84
@Zentrou84 18 күн бұрын
I like more darkgus or purplegus😅
@siapaya711
@siapaya711 15 күн бұрын
Yea wish they make effect skin for gold themed Argus
@ArgusBessmertovich
@ArgusBessmertovich 18 күн бұрын
The problem is that the Argus after the revamp is WAY weaker at the start than it was before the revamp. That's the problem. His second skill is completely useless against forest monsters. It used to help you farm faster. Now it takes Argus a long time to even hit a beetle. This slows down farming a lot and delays the process of getting into the lategame. I wouldn't say that the developers have really strengthened his laitgame to compensate for the weakened start. (Even on the contrary, the damage of the passive was reduced.) And another noticeable problem is a very long cooldown of his Ult. It feels like I'm back in 2020, when his ult takes a minute to recharge. As a result, it is now very often the situation that fight has started, and I can not support my team, because my ultimate will be recharged for another 15 seconds. In general, I agree that adding an increased chance of crit when hitting targets that are marked with a second skill is a good idea. But I would also bring back the regeneration of energy for hitting towers.
@Nobody-kb7ti
@Nobody-kb7ti 18 күн бұрын
Bringing back his old stats is the best way to improve his lategame in my opinion (i mean 2017-2020 Argus) with his old physical atk and atk speed stats he can easily reach 1k Crit with the current Crit item, while the current Argus struggles to even reach 800/900 Crit.
@Nobody-kb7ti
@Nobody-kb7ti 18 күн бұрын
Old Argus max physical atk stats at max level was 267, which is well above average, with 3/4 atk item he could have 500+ physical atk which allows him to reach 1k Crit easily, unlike the current Argus with 195 physical atk at max level thats like losing a sea halberd, of course that definitely have a great impact to his lategame damage, and that physical atk stats is even lower than mages and supports, moonton is a little bit too harsh on Argus.
@Chalkolate911
@Chalkolate911 17 күн бұрын
Well at least back then he could actually do decent in the lane, farm faster, and even go jungle. Now its just straight up impossible, he is super reliant on his ult and on crit build (trinity no longer works) and they made his early-mid game even worse. He is so weak now to the point you probably won't even reach late game and you'll already lose. He can be bullied so easily now due to his longer ult cd, aka a whopping 50 seconds. He cant even heal from minions anymore. You'll lose to pretty much anyone who has enough braincell to bait out his ult and run away. In my humble opinion, the late game trade off of higher burst for lower dps isn't bad but the fact that they had to make his early-mid game so bad when it was initially the main reason people were complaining about just baffles me, his 2nd school is pretty much useless now aside from when you use it against enemy heroes, you can't even clear minion waves with it anymore. Thank you for listening to my rant.
@de4d092
@de4d092 9 күн бұрын
they're definitely gonna be "revamping" him again lmao he was already good enough before these adjustments why can't they just leave him alone.
@KaitoD
@KaitoD 18 күн бұрын
The changes to the passive and skil 2 really stunted his strength, and although the longer lasting ult is appreciated, the tradeoff of having a much longer cooldown really hurts you since you need to be more and more careful, before you can make decently consistent plays and can solo push but nowadays you get punished easier, its also not as fun to chase heroes anymore since skill 2 movement bonus got nerfed
@rayhachihachi8014
@rayhachihachi8014 17 күн бұрын
For me the most important thing is to focus and find strats specially against full enemy team ganks Most important thing if you play Argus is to always be cautious of ganks early and find a sustainable source of exp, gold and pinpointing safe ganks to pop off early
@StrongwillGameTheory
@StrongwillGameTheory 17 күн бұрын
Skip boots to get your damage items early; that is supposed to improve his early game. That's a claim, and not a fact. Evidence show's that it actually makes him worse. What you need to do is weather the storm in the early game and offset their damage spike, so that when the late game comes you become more impactful. Forcing damage on Argus makes him weak and everyone's bitch. Don't do that, build proper defense in the early game, and wait for his power spike in the late game.
@StrongwillGameTheory
@StrongwillGameTheory 17 күн бұрын
4:04 Due to the lack of mobility, you couldn't close the gap with your normal movement speed because you have no boots and have to use flicker. That's not very efficient.
@trellocox6717
@trellocox6717 17 күн бұрын
What rank you’re in?
@greek_yogurt
@greek_yogurt 17 күн бұрын
@@trellocox6717 I'm not glazing the dude but he knows what he's saying since he literally dedicated his channel on improving builds, be it small or a massive impact, I've tried running rapid boots on this revamped argus and it's actually not as bad as I thought it would be, you're basically Zilong with an immortality ult, the rapid boots helped me get opportunities to rotate in mid lane rather than being a sitting duck in the laning phase, causing me to get my items faster, argus' purpose is to split push, despite that part getting nerfed, dish out out of positioned enemies, and get to the backlines. rapid boots corrosion scythe sea halberd wintalker berserker's fury malefic roar mm emblem atk speed discount war cry its not as op as the 90% crit build, but then again that 90% is feeble if the enemy buys blade armor and dominance ice, hence the malefic roar. I picked mm emblem and atk speed since I've tested on practice mode its the most attack speed he can perform without overadding it too much (around 2.53 to 2.60 atk speed) and discount so I can get my items faster, war cry is self explanatory.
@Kobounshai
@Kobounshai 18 күн бұрын
I just need Little bit movement speed and 20% more damage boost thats all even if he stays weak in early i don't mind just increase his damage growth
@SyedSulaiman-zg7hf
@SyedSulaiman-zg7hf 18 күн бұрын
Buff that would make argus a better hero Increasing his physical and magic defense and hp. Compared to other fighters he just lack it too much that's why without ult argus gets one shoted by enemies Buff 2nd skills Buff attack speed Buff base damage from 111>120 other fighters have much higher base damage then argus that's y he is early weak Decrease his skills cd. Argus skill 1 has 12 sec Skill 2 10 sec Skill 3 60 sec ( with this much cd it's very hard to survive) Most players have no knowledge like why argus struggles so badly in early game this is the reason. His stats or attributes are very low compared to other fighters and moonton call this as balanced I recently sent a feedback about this issue but developers are ignorant.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
They're scared to buff hin
@trellocox6717
@trellocox6717 17 күн бұрын
Ur rank?
@SyedSulaiman-zg7hf
@SyedSulaiman-zg7hf 17 күн бұрын
@@trellocox6717 legend
@Kyo_14-14w
@Kyo_14-14w 16 күн бұрын
nerfed early game, pushing, clearing but he can burst anyone in the late game and crit works way better now, he's good in team fight since he can be used as an initiator. Argus is like the other revamped heroes, people saying it's bad because they can't adapt.
@hdepisodes3867
@hdepisodes3867 18 күн бұрын
I'm currently global argus and here's what I thought so far Many of you guys say that he's nerfed but No he is not. That's it. This revamp makes him more interesting and challenging and that's pretty awesome. Tip: Try to survive no matter what until you buy atleast 2 iteams Just move on and try to adapt this revamp. You will love it. I 100% gurrantee
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
Un enfriamiento de un minuto no es un nerf? 🗣️ Como Main Argus estoy en desacuerdo. También con que sea "desafiante" cuando su gameplay consiste en su mayoría: Primera + segunda + pasiva + pasiva = enemigo derrotado (si el enemigo intenta escapar segunda activa de la primera + básico/ si hay varios enemigos activas últimate antes de la segunda y spameas la pasiva) Literalmente lo mismo que el viejo Argus solo con pequeñas variaciones ☝️🤓
@Anarchist69
@Anarchist69 18 күн бұрын
He's much better in team fights now
@hdepisodes3867
@hdepisodes3867 18 күн бұрын
@@Anarchist69 and also 1v1
@mou_no
@mou_no 18 күн бұрын
This is whats happening with me after the update idk why 9:36
@kiratwo4u
@kiratwo4u 18 күн бұрын
literal skill issue
@mou_no
@mou_no 18 күн бұрын
@kiratwo4u maybe,i was new with argus too so didn't have much practice
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
What happened there?
@mou_no
@mou_no 17 күн бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays getting ganked way too much in early game then before the update
@warmist8197
@warmist8197 18 күн бұрын
Hallelujah the FIRST argus player thats been honest. Once you accept the reality can you work to change it.
@dukecatfishjunior6291
@dukecatfishjunior6291 16 күн бұрын
Good to see you return to the previous editing style, Zayed! Also that phoveus played like an NPC honestly X)
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 16 күн бұрын
Yeah alot of people didn't want me to stop so I didn't
@X-tR3j
@X-tR3j 18 күн бұрын
His skill 2 needs posion effect as argus in 2020. It would just be perfect since his skill 2 is late game skill...
@BrxxkzEdit
@BrxxkzEdit 18 күн бұрын
5:46 finally..bang the enemy edit that i liked💀🔥
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Thanks
@BrxxkzEdit
@BrxxkzEdit 17 күн бұрын
@@ZayedHeroPlays keep making contents brother...last few months I've checked you're only 2.k sub ..and now already 4k sub ...I know you'll keep growing 😁🫶
@haxbutcracked3737
@haxbutcracked3737 18 күн бұрын
a decent amount of people used argus for tower pushing but for some reason moonton took it away?
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
They did it for other heroes too
@ycmtay683
@ycmtay683 18 күн бұрын
The developers kinda don’t know what to do with him if they did made him strong litterly who is going to stop him
@Nobody-kb7ti
@Nobody-kb7ti 18 күн бұрын
I've been playing Argus since 2017, i think it is best to give his 1st skill immunity (not able to be cancelled) due to it having a long cooldown and being the only escaping skill for Argus, and In my opinion, it would be better for the instant full passive effect to be put on his 1st skill rather than his 2nd skill since his stun duration was nerfed from 1 second to 0,7 second, other than that, just buff his atk speed and physical atk growth to his old stats back like the old 2027-2020 Argus, with the current Crit item old Argus with better stats can easily reach 1000 Crit with 3 items alone, while the new Argus struggles to reach 900 or even 800 crits with just 3 items.
@Nobody-kb7ti
@Nobody-kb7ti 18 күн бұрын
2017-2020 Argus has much better lategame in my opinion, due to the lower hp, the faster the passive fills mechanic, using ult with the right timing in lategame back then can make Argus melts tanks with Crit build alone without the need to use trinity/atk speed build, not to mention the slight Dash in his old passive which males him better to chase enemies.
@Nobody-kb7ti
@Nobody-kb7ti 18 күн бұрын
Oh and i forgot that old Argus can still use his ult even when suppressed by Franco/kaja, he was nerfed secretly back in march 2021.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah high CRIT needs unusual items
@Gl1tchEy3
@Gl1tchEy3 18 күн бұрын
Argus Skill 2 should just have the old double energy passive on creeps like turtle or lord, also what i dont like about argus, is mostly the Skill 2, having halved the movement speed, cant be able to use it better on creeps is anonoying
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah the first one was perfect
@andryhunter8604
@andryhunter8604 18 күн бұрын
Argus true Nightmare is Natalia Now because if we on her smoke bomb we can't heal from Minion anymore and Natalia Smoke bomb immune from basic attack
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah she's really annoying
@rayhachihachi8014
@rayhachihachi8014 17 күн бұрын
Pro top against Natalia build cursed helmet Since Argus ultimate heals him for the damage he dealt while under the ultimate's effect which include Cursed helmet damage
@rayhachihachi8014
@rayhachihachi8014 17 күн бұрын
And most Natalia users don't build magic defense items which is Cursed helmet's damage so you can utilize it's damage output per second Maximum of 8 seconds times 100% for Cursed helmet's damage which is around 400 HP and that's a lot of hp
@michaeljohncaga-anan9772
@michaeljohncaga-anan9772 17 күн бұрын
they also remove the tower damage reset after argus ult is over
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Only the first phase, If you trigger death immunity you'll still reset it
@greek_yogurt
@greek_yogurt 17 күн бұрын
I've tried running rapid boots on this revamped argus and it's actually not as bad as I thought it would be, you're basically Zilong with an immortality ult, the rapid boots helped me get opportunities to rotate in mid lane rather than being a sitting duck in the laning phase, causing me to get my items faster, argus' purpose is to split push, despite that part getting nerfed, dish out out of positioned enemies, and get to the backlines. rapid boots corrosion scythe sea halberd windtalker berserker's fury malefic roar mm emblem atk speed discount war cry its not as op as the 90% crit build, but then again that 90% is feeble if the enemy buys blade armor and dominance ice, you just need to build the crit to further abuse the passive without sacrificing much physical pen, hence the malefic roar. I picked mm emblem and atk speed since I've tested on practice mode its the most attack speed he can perform without overadding it too much (around 2.53 to 2.60 atk speed) and discount so I can get my items faster, war cry is self explanatory. as mentioned earlier, I took inspiration on zilong's playstyle in which I only participate in teamfights when they're distracted, repositioning is much faster with rapid boots too, have the balls to split push, I feel like this emblem and build prioritizes his movement speed(darth vader skin switches to running on a certain movement speed, or after buying windtalker) with how argus and zilong got adjusted on this patch, it almost feels like they switched roles, zilong had a lifesteal buff, while argus needed that movement speed to keep up with other meta heroes
@alsparkproductions7849
@alsparkproductions7849 17 күн бұрын
I agree with mostly everything except the part of not expecting argus to perform well if you pick him in every match. In fact, I find that to be the issue with him and similar heroes like zilong. If you look at meta exp laners such as dyrroth, hilda, or khaleed, they're at the very least solid independent if opponent counters you or not, and again, that's the issue that makes heroes like argus struggle in terms of viability.
@alsparkproductions7849
@alsparkproductions7849 17 күн бұрын
Over 3000 matches just for me to finally give up trying to make zilong a hero that's solid to pick every match, just for me to find out that he's surprisingly okay as a tank roamer of all things. It's not that different to playing franco or kaja. But then there's the issue that you can't carry yourself and are completely dependent on your team, since you went tank.
@PanginoongCockroach
@PanginoongCockroach 17 күн бұрын
By the way, let me share you my methods. Try using support emblem, with all the boots emblem. 10%movement speed+10%cooldown+10% movement speed when in jungle+12% healing is useful for argus. I've done that many times and it worked perfectly. I use inspire for my spell. But make sure to build cooldown boots->corrosive scythe ->windtalker->great dragon spear-> berserkers fury-> haas claws/malefic roar/malefic gun/ or the 160+ attack item. You can change your boots once you are item locked. There. Hope that helps bro.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Nice
@Tutushiki
@Tutushiki 18 күн бұрын
If possible always last or 2nd last pick argus in a lineup
@papalollipop9204
@papalollipop9204 16 күн бұрын
i started playing argus this season and i gotta say he is very strong. if he gets an advantage early no matter who hes up against, hell dominate the game
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 15 күн бұрын
Yep
@silverslasher7477
@silverslasher7477 12 күн бұрын
Then tanks be ni problem
@redguymask8187
@redguymask8187 18 күн бұрын
5:51 wait why's the tower damage didn't reset?
@m.rhenaldfadhillha519
@m.rhenaldfadhillha519 18 күн бұрын
It didn't trigger death immunity. Ultimate second phase
@redguymask8187
@redguymask8187 18 күн бұрын
@m.rhenaldfadhillha519 damn that's rough
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
It doesn't reset at phase 1 of ULT, only phase 2
@alyasVictorio
@alyasVictorio 18 күн бұрын
9:44 Ahhh! Too close to outplay them with his ultimate tho-
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah I was spamming it
@bilogangmundo8376
@bilogangmundo8376 18 күн бұрын
Bro if u have enemy aldous, try to freeze lane..dont clear minions,dont give her stacks..then try to be aggressive play when they come to you..spam any skill dont retreat, just my suggestion bro😁
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah but that's boring to me so I just play really aggressive
@V_For_Vendettaedits
@V_For_Vendettaedits 18 күн бұрын
I really like this new argus more than when i first played him, but i sincerely think he needs a bit of a buff on his early-mid game, honestly i think the only thing they should add, its give him back the hp regen he had with his passive (200-220 hp regen per hit), passive regen by hitting towers (since you cant crit a tower you still wouldnt get that much passive, soo he would not be over powered as split pusher), give him back the damage he made with his second skill and then give him an extra use on his second skill to even make him playable as jungler (maybe he can bleed the creeps like his old skill 2, or make him get a passive when hitting second skill on creeps, or as you said give him crit rate on cursed enemies, but certainly he needs something, because it kinda doesnt makes sense for Argus to be able to curse mark a creep when it doesnt do anything)
@V_For_Vendettaedits
@V_For_Vendettaedits 18 күн бұрын
I thought even that for each passive you hit on a cursed target you get cd reduction on second skill, that way when you double passive someone you could get half the cd down on the second skill or even more, that would be a great adjustment
@unknownuser0813
@unknownuser0813 17 күн бұрын
if they are gonna make argus a crit hero,why not give him a permanent critical chance like natalia and ling?make it scale with his ultimate,this will let argus use other items rather than just all crit items
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Yeah that's what I said too, they need to give him atleast one item worth of CRIT in his kit
@Dudethatsrealrandom
@Dudethatsrealrandom 17 күн бұрын
Best reply so far
@SakkakuFantomu
@SakkakuFantomu 18 күн бұрын
3:13 Bro I dunno, it's not even the fact that I mean Argus anymore, I just get jumped it's always 1v5 for no reason. I used to get the same treatment as a Zilong main.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
That's how exp laners are in general and especially those with weak early game
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
That's how exp laners are in general and especially those with weak early game
@Wingedknight3
@Wingedknight3 18 күн бұрын
Sprint or flicker? Assassin or marksman emblem?
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
🗿?
@bilogangmundo8376
@bilogangmundo8376 18 күн бұрын
For me , marksman for atk speed , assassin for pen
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Flicker is more useful, Marksman feels better but in the end you have to try them yourself and compare
@SakkakuFantomu
@SakkakuFantomu 18 күн бұрын
Just counter build when necessary, try not to die, and lastly, tower dive when using ult (mid health) and when there's no tower to dive use it at low health.
@sorvetmaster9050
@sorvetmaster9050 17 күн бұрын
Parece que a galera nao entendeu mas o argus mudou de assassino / soldado pra soldado puro simplesmente adicionando o meteoro rosa na build ele fica muito tank e fica extremamente dificil pra alguem te forcar a usar a ult como faziam no patch passado
@imafailure2409
@imafailure2409 18 күн бұрын
Been playing for 3 days straight,, xp , gold , roam argus just from what i've expected he's better played at gold lane than Xp Reasons : Can farm , can harass , squishy enemy , can rotate, can trade cause hr counterpart is squishy. Argus is still decent at early game after i've played him straight just argus on every match 1st pick or last pick ,, Hes still good cause i've adjusted on how i often play him , Heres my suggestions on how this argus could really work if they'll buff or adjust him Passive 180 - 210 Physical damage 150 - 165 heal Pen gives 50% at all levels 1st skill Lower cool down 🤔 or give it a lock on type of skill cause its pretty slow in animation 2nd skill Cursed targets would be slowed down by 0.5 - 1 seconds and will give argus 100 extra malice energy ( stacks upto 4 demonic slashes - this is the reason why they gotta nerf this skill to monsters cause you can keep stacking those at early game 😂) Additionaly- Deals 200 damage at enemy creeps , jungle creeps and gives argus a bonus attack speed on cursed units ( halfed at Enemy heroes for balance ) Ultimate (1st phase )Argus Becomes immune at displacement , airborne and stun effects for 2 seconds and gains a diminishing mov speed of 70%additionally argus gains a 100 % mov speed if death immunity is activated and diminishes for 2 seconds ( all levels ) (2nd phase ) - Argus Gains CC immunity for 4 seconds ( Franco , akai and kaja skills 4example ) and ignores turret damage for 1 second after the duration of the death immunity Argus ultimate still gives 60 malice energy bonus every crit . This is my own adjustment to actually make this argus really work out again hes weak against karina and natalia and argus cant still heal during his ultimate on enemy creeps except lord and turtle ,, Balance.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Moonton isn't smart enough
@mohitrathod1606
@mohitrathod1606 18 күн бұрын
Honestly I was trash with argus but after u said to use flicker it just awesome thanks
@gaprommmachen1169
@gaprommmachen1169 17 күн бұрын
Argus hasn’t changed for me at all-he’s still weak. Why? Because he’s a late-game hero, and in the current meta, fighters need crowd control, sustain, and a strong early game. Look at Hilda-she’s meta for a reason. She has high damage even with tank emblems, amazing survivability, great mobility, and she’s still strong in the late game. Or take Benedetta, for example. She’s also a damage dealer, but: - High damage from the first minutes. - Insane mobility to make up for her squishiness. - AoE damage. - Control with her second skill. And what about Argus? - Weak early game. - Zero mobility. - No crowd control at all. If enemies invade your jungler, what can you do? Nothing! His ult gives you 8 seconds of immortality, and then you’re basically useless for another 50 seconds waiting for cooldown. He’s so easy to kite-it’s like he’s not a fighter, not a marksman, just… something weird. That’s why Argus isn’t meta. Honestly, I’m just waiting for a rework. Make him more like Phoveus so he can work with Bloodlust Axe and defensive items. I do like Argus’s lore-his story is actually tragic. But his design? Claws on his feet and purple skin? Not my style, but whatever. What would I change? 1. Make him a burst fighter with a strong early game. 2. Keep the immortality but add insane lifesteal instead of just making him a tank for 8 seconds. 3. Rework his ult. Right now, it’s just a weak AoE puff that doesn’t even deal damage. It’d be way better if it knocked enemies up or at least debuffed them. Honestly, as long as his ult has a 50-second cooldown and barely does anything, Argus will stay dead in the meta. I just hope they’ll rework him someday.
@mou_no
@mou_no 18 күн бұрын
Maybe its only me but after the update the enemies are ganking me way too much from early game when i pick argus
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 18 күн бұрын
Hes an easy kill when he doesn't have ult
@temuulenbaldorj1900
@temuulenbaldorj1900 18 күн бұрын
​@@ZayedHeroPlays, but still I almost never got ganked early, but now his the first one to get ganked even tho his not the marksman
@RespectZakus
@RespectZakus 18 күн бұрын
@@temuulenbaldorj1900 He's arguably better than a marksman if he's well fed enough and it's hard to ignore a hero that can mainly split push and become an insane powerhouse if ignored
@temuulenbaldorj1900
@temuulenbaldorj1900 18 күн бұрын
@@RespectZakus dude literally his farming speed is halved and now he gets ganked making him useless unless your team is winning and I moved onto masha and she's way better pick than him
@RespectZakus
@RespectZakus 17 күн бұрын
@@temuulenbaldorj1900 That's why we don't *ignore* him besides he can still split push just not as effective as pre-update
@enderdragon8684
@enderdragon8684 18 күн бұрын
The thing that make me more angry was Granger revamp is way more better then revamped Argus also nerfed cecilion is good
@leonsantero9903
@leonsantero9903 18 күн бұрын
No dragon spear on your build for the crit chance?
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 18 күн бұрын
There is but I think malefic gun is better than dragon spear if enemy builds tankier in the late game
@leonsantero9903
@leonsantero9903 17 күн бұрын
@ how dp you deal with meta exp laners like hilda? I don’t know what to do if my counterpart keeps zoning me from clearing my minions
@Leemoth
@Leemoth 13 күн бұрын
​@@leonsantero9903Request backup then try to avoid fight if your opponent has the advantage.
@trellocox6717
@trellocox6717 17 күн бұрын
I think everyone in the chat don’t know how to play with Argus
@DaNTe_0
@DaNTe_0 18 күн бұрын
I tried fastgus and i was laughing the whole match cuz i purchased dragon spear in the late game after that argus became zilong whenever i ult 😂, Btw thx for the build ❤
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Np ‼️🗣️
@bonkedbynasusxdxd
@bonkedbynasusxdxd 18 күн бұрын
tbh< heres my take after trolling for a bit in rank and picking argus in a different role which is roam, Im having fun playing the game especially when I say to tower dive the tower and they all go when my ult is up. Plus with fleeting time and when the ult doesn't proc the fatal one, I get 10 sec ult xD
@silverslasher7477
@silverslasher7477 12 күн бұрын
Triplensslash not mentioned 4 chsrzckter info why???
@denmj9498
@denmj9498 16 күн бұрын
His revamp is messy in many ways from icons to skin effects all the way to how he is played rn😭. Challengingly fun though just really needs some tweaks prolly make his ult deal slow rather than giving movespeed
@abdullahnaeem6484
@abdullahnaeem6484 17 күн бұрын
i have a question how many passive can argus stack
@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger
@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger 17 күн бұрын
Max 2, but you can technically stack 3 if you use 1 passive and immediately s2 and then double passive
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Read reply
@Dudethatsrealrandom
@Dudethatsrealrandom 18 күн бұрын
Give me your thoughts on this Keep the passive regen all through out the game (doesnt matter much) Faster passive animation (seriously) Keep ult regen on non enemy heroes Smaller cooldown scaling (cd lowers as the game goes on) Slightly better heal from passive (like 3-5 points) Keep the new second skill but add crit chance or antiheal Keep the aoe damage from ult Remove 8 second gimmick (optional) These are just my thoughts
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I do agree his skill 1 needs to be lower cd
@NickyBrosuwu
@NickyBrosuwu 18 күн бұрын
I think that Phoveus kinda did a bad mistake when he didn't attack you while your ult was active, he was simply fleeing instead of activating your ult's second phase. he would have won the lane especcially with his sustain in early game
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
It's low rank so it's not surprising
@yoriichiT
@yoriichiT 18 күн бұрын
that was clean 4:05
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Thanks I really like flicker skill 2
@juswah_u
@juswah_u 18 күн бұрын
We are using the same build except that I get Haas Claw early for lifesteal and buy boots after. I'm using an assassin emblem with swift, bargain hunter, and quantum charge. When I was practicing In practice mode with this build there are some instances where I deal 2.2k critical damage and that's without inspire.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I don't like Haas claws at start because the attack speed passive is hard to trigger with low CRIT so he feels really slow
@juswah_u
@juswah_u 17 күн бұрын
@ZayedHeroPlays Honestly its just personal preference. Just now I use war cry again and switch inspire with flicker it's actually good for escaping and chasing enemies 🗿
@asthro
@asthro 18 күн бұрын
Mantap bro , ku juga main Argus gtu udh kaya top global coma susah kalo Argus dapat tim yang ga bis main , soalnya Argus ga bisa gendong gendong
@mohammedjamal1891
@mohammedjamal1891 18 күн бұрын
في اعتقادي المتواضع ....جدا قوي ارجوس حاليا وان الوحيد الذي هو معضله حاليا ضده هو سون 🐒 صدقني لا تريد أن يظهر ضدك سون محترف او حتى نصف محترف
@mohammedjamal1891
@mohammedjamal1891 18 күн бұрын
لماذا هو صعب جدا حاليا بالنسبه لارجوس؟ لان ارجوس الجديد لا يأخذ سرقه حياة من نسخ سون🐒🦧!!!!!!
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
Sun, el héroe que te da dinero infinito con sus clones? 🗿
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
لا أعتقد أن sun قاسية، عليك فقط أن تحجبها
@BerserkChameleon
@BerserkChameleon 15 күн бұрын
I’m kinda late but I’ve been playing since Argus since b4 the revamp.. In my opinion the revamp is pretty op Ik they changed his passive and nerfed him but I have learned that with time playing him it is easy to melt heroes my most recent match I 1v4 Layla alpha and aldous and Vexana, I melted all of them with my build plus ult plus inspire He’s still pretty op in my opinions
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 14 күн бұрын
That's awesome
@syohor7967
@syohor7967 18 күн бұрын
Just make the bleed effect comeback, and give back 40 perma damage boost after level 4, and heals by second skill to minion
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
Con que bajen el enfriamiento de la últi yo estoy satisfecho.
@justarif5540
@justarif5540 18 күн бұрын
How you can play argus without being gank by the enemy in early
@bilogangmundo8376
@bilogangmundo8376 18 күн бұрын
Hide on Bush or tower hug, dont clear wave, u can still get exp even u dont kill minions👍👍
@gregoriusriscadoharefa
@gregoriusriscadoharefa 18 күн бұрын
Just lane freeze,make the enemy minion getting near turret range,but don't kill it,that way you can set the meeting point of both minion at your near turret,so still in exp/gold gain range
@Midnight8869
@Midnight8869 17 күн бұрын
Hide in bush and don't miss any minions stay close to a minion when it dies even if u don't hit it stay close you can get gold and don't miss last hit when you can
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I get ganked all the time
@justarif5540
@justarif5540 17 күн бұрын
@ZayedHeroPlays so how to play argus effectively and what enemy draft that possible argus has advantage.after the patch update I has stopped using him
@qtgaming6902
@qtgaming6902 16 күн бұрын
Hes not trash its just annoying that they heavily nerfed the damage and changed the passive which ig for early game the new passive is good for harrasing but for late game def not easy They couldve done so that the passive can stack multiple times if u hit multiple targets i gain 100 extra passive if u hit 1 enemy if u hit 2 thats 180 passive that way its balanced
@KateWestleyDelosReyes
@KateWestleyDelosReyes 18 күн бұрын
Whats the best battle spell for argus? Is it still inspire or is it flicker now?
@bilogangmundo8376
@bilogangmundo8376 18 күн бұрын
argus passive unli depends on critic build now, so i use petrify as battle spell👍👍
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I prefer flicker more now but you can use whatever you want, best way to know is to try them one by one
@Benjamin-ec6ov
@Benjamin-ec6ov 18 күн бұрын
how argus mains show dominance 2:10
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
It was a miss click💀
@Bruhhtis
@Bruhhtis 17 күн бұрын
If he does get crit on his 2nd skill he would have better early game
@rasxhu6643
@rasxhu6643 17 күн бұрын
Alright, so coming from me. Whos Currently at Mythic, 6 stars. 32 matches with argus on ranked(current season) with 78.1% winrate (48 total ranked matches, winrate is 72.92%) My all season argus is 550 matches and 72.7% wr. For my server, I'm playing in Malaysia server(SEA). Whos been playing this new Argus since its debut. Imo, while this Argus currently is quite weak. I'd say he's far better than his pre-revamp version in some aspects like; Laning, teamfight and baiting, but only for players who KNOWS how to play around with him. As someone who usually first/2nd pick him, i usually get counter pick. But ive learned and even managed to counter most of my Argus's counters. Doesnt mean hes perfect though, hes far from perfect. Here are some adjustments that i think would really, and i mean REALLY fit him without making him too overly broken but quite a reliable and possible meta/high tier pick 1. Buffing his 2nd skill damage or adding back the bleed effect. OR something similiar to Yuzhong's skill, if his 2nd hits more enemy, the more damage it does, making it work on minions as well(fixing his current issue with laning from the nerfed 2nd skill) 2. Adding back the heal on minion or jungle, but the effect is halved. We already have 50% Reduction if 2nd phase isnt activated, so i think this i fair. 3. Enemy with cursed trail, everytime they're hit. It reduces the CDR of his 1st and 2nd skill by "unknown amount" with each basic attack. 4. Enemy with curse trail or got his by his ult AoE get fear(like Vex's 1st) or they take more damage each time argus does passive to them(stacking up to maybe 2-5 times, lasting 4 seconds) 5. Bringing back his passive percentage scaling back to 100%. With these changes. Itll make him a very solid pick, even in earlygame and if you let it play out until lategame, then its mostly game over, since even without Sea halberd, DHS or any penetration items. The current Argus can just melt any tanky heroes
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I don't think they'll change anything at this point they already got so many feedback but did nothing
@rasxhu6643
@rasxhu6643 17 күн бұрын
@ZayedHeroPlays I don't think they will as well. But I've found myself already fine with this current Argus, with him surprisingly being more reliable than his pre-revamp one. These changes would mostly be making it easier for beginners to learn him at high rank, but for players that are advanced with him, they can bring him up to the next level.
@Laxulizz
@Laxulizz 18 күн бұрын
did moontoon silently buff argus?.. because lately a few days after the revamp.. he seem a little better
@am1r2006
@am1r2006 18 күн бұрын
Yes i feel to
@am1r2006
@am1r2006 18 күн бұрын
Strange
@bilogangmundo8376
@bilogangmundo8376 18 күн бұрын
Yes sameee
@Anarchist69
@Anarchist69 18 күн бұрын
I feel that too bro Or maybe we just got used to him
@Laxulizz
@Laxulizz 18 күн бұрын
@@Anarchist69 well I started to think that way too
@johngaming267-l1g
@johngaming267-l1g 18 күн бұрын
I think they need to make argus ult give atk speed or crit chance like thsmuz
@minpon-wz9bp
@minpon-wz9bp 17 күн бұрын
He was never that weak
@feelthebeyond6241
@feelthebeyond6241 17 күн бұрын
unfortunately i quit playing argus until they fix him😡
@greek_yogurt
@greek_yogurt 17 күн бұрын
how do u do the triple passive?
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
kzbin.infot2klxPu9psA?feature=share
@Vykehero
@Vykehero 16 күн бұрын
Majula mentioned 🔥
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 16 күн бұрын
Been using it since beginning 😎
@HelenCruz-b8b
@HelenCruz-b8b 16 күн бұрын
Can i Ask Why Does It Needed to use malefic gun to argus? Just Curious.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 16 күн бұрын
You can either choose malefic gun or malefic roar for penetration mainly but if the enemy team is very tanky then roar is better but if not then gun is better
@HelenCruz-b8b
@HelenCruz-b8b 16 күн бұрын
Ok Thanks.
@HaratixaXarikazi
@HaratixaXarikazi 17 күн бұрын
I wanna try flicker argus
@rayhachihachi8014
@rayhachihachi8014 17 күн бұрын
Idk but i play Argus even if i get countered But i pop off maybe because i can adapt or counter my counter by adjusting my items and strategies
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Good
@yone9605
@yone9605 17 күн бұрын
I am having hard time against sun player can u suggest me something
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
When you fight him try to spam portrait lock so you keep attacking his real body
@rayhachihachi8014
@rayhachihachi8014 17 күн бұрын
Nahh for me sun users are gold banks You get money if you kill his clone which will give you an item advantage What makes it harder to some argus players is they tend to get scared of being poked by sun's first skill But for me Sun is a gold bank worth of early game gold
@Azmuth01
@Azmuth01 18 күн бұрын
I use CDR build for Argus and his ult without triggering the 2nd phase has 14 seconds cooldown 😂😂😂
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Zamn
@User___Gusion-g4k
@User___Gusion-g4k 4 күн бұрын
How to trigger ult for 8 sec someone explain
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 4 күн бұрын
Your initial ult lasts 4 seconds but when you die during Ultimate you get another 4 seconds of death immunity
@trellocox6717
@trellocox6717 17 күн бұрын
What rank you’re in? People in the comments
@rasxhu6643
@rasxhu6643 17 күн бұрын
Currently at Mythic, 6 stars. 32 matches with argus on ranked with 78.1% winrate (48 total ranked matches, winrate is 72.92%) My all season argus is 550 matches and 72.7% wr. For my server, I'm playing in Malaysia server(SEA).
@rasxhu6643
@rasxhu6643 17 күн бұрын
And this is coming from someone who frequently 1st or 2nd pick argus.
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Legend
@PanginoongCockroach
@PanginoongCockroach 18 күн бұрын
Epic enemies are easy to beat with argus.
@kiratwo4u
@kiratwo4u 18 күн бұрын
no shit
@Mojamo01
@Mojamo01 17 күн бұрын
I kinda disagree on the part that argus is weak in early game before this rework. Most of my match up i always beat most fighters in early game. Of course except heroes who can burst and heal at the same time, yz as such. But argus rn feel so weak early his 2nd skill damage, and the fact that you cant heal back your hp when your use your 2nd skill while on ult. This rework reminds of the time MT reworks argus to be a slow but hard hitting hero but turns out to be one of the worst rework they did. I just don't see the point on reworking argus, hes a balance hero. He can absolutely destroy you if he got items but can easily be shutdown at the same time if you know what your doing. Moonton keep making this unnecessary changes
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
His early game before rework is like the easiest lane to gank before his ult and most fighters are stronger early than argus even before rework. You could only compete if you used inspire
@ChloeCharlesManson-m1i
@ChloeCharlesManson-m1i 14 күн бұрын
I like forgot how to use argus
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 14 күн бұрын
Remember it
@Articzcomplainer
@Articzcomplainer 18 күн бұрын
How to triple slash?
@zie7248
@zie7248 18 күн бұрын
Wait for the passive full, then use the second skill, wait for the second skill's cd, then you attack the enemy first with basic attack then use the second skill again to get the triple slash
@Articzcomplainer
@Articzcomplainer 18 күн бұрын
@zie7248 thank you homie
@zie7248
@zie7248 17 күн бұрын
@@Articzcomplainer No Problem :)
@aissagame8731
@aissagame8731 18 күн бұрын
Nah i choose argus first Whatever it is No, I'm kidding.
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097
@arcodeinvadirucrania8097 18 күн бұрын
X2
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
Same
@BobFunniman
@BobFunniman 18 күн бұрын
Sh*t in still sick
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
It is part of life
@s0ulzt
@s0ulzt 18 күн бұрын
Bro's enemies🤡
@neltv647
@neltv647 18 күн бұрын
Whoever they are they are diffinatly better than s0ulzt
@456__s2
@456__s2 18 күн бұрын
Bro is jealous
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 17 күн бұрын
I never claimed theyre immortal bruh
@deathhades7790
@deathhades7790 13 күн бұрын
Ye i dont like it
@mongmong9759
@mongmong9759 18 күн бұрын
first??
@ZayedHeroPlays
@ZayedHeroPlays 18 күн бұрын
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