My Pitch for Sinister Six

[@joshuaspencer4506]

It's like Sony took the negatives of both the MCU being too formulaic and the DCEU with it's lack of coherence and connection and mushed them together to the point that they've dug themselves into a hole so deeper, it's easier to get out the otherside then it is to climb back out

[@maleficking6556]

Is it really that incomprehensible? Most of the confusion really just comes from the Morbius credit scenes, which are easily fixable.

[@gavo7911]

@@maleficking6556 How is it fixable? It completely ruins Vulture’s character AND makes no sense from NWH.

[@maleficking6556]

@@gavo7911 Because post credit scenes can be retconned or redone. It's that simple.

[@maleficking6556]

Update on this, there's literally a version of the scene now where some of Vulture's dialogue is removed. My point is proven exactly.

[@radrno7]

@@maleficking6556 They need to completely erase the Vulture scenes. That's the only way to fix it.

[@Tay-zonday]

They're going to be more like the sympathetic 6 not sinister.

[@keithragin89]

Ok

[@haroldnecmann7040]

Sony six

[@useless4713]

Lool

[@danielroberson3206]

Great comment!

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

Let’s not kid ourselves. We’re getting the Outlaws.

[@globherman8115]

This team will just be called ‘The Six’ and they’ll just be Sony’s avengers

[@citysmall3427]

I honestly expect that kind of thing from Sony at this point

[@gerardkeohane1837]

Then the six can cross over with the seven, perfect

[@engineergaming1537]

The Spectacular Six

[@DesX42S]

I like it. I'm sold.

[@slartimus]

So, six big heroes... like a Big Hero Six? 😁

[@KevinCow]

The whole Sinister Six thing is just so funny to me. It's clearly just one of those ideas some producer had (gonna go out on a limb and say Avi Arad or Amy Pascal) and just leaned into obsessively despite nobody else really being into it, like Kevin Smith's story about the giant spider in a Superman movie. Like it's obviously something they came up with in the wake of the success of The Avengers, because they looked at a list of Marvel properties they could use for a team and said, "Ooh, Avengers but bad!" But a decade's passed, the market's changed, every other cinematic universe attempt has flopped, Sony's Spidey spinoffs continue to be a punchline, the general vibe on the Sinister Six movie continues to be, "Really? They're still trying to do that?" and yet they still press on.

[@lunatickgeo]

wait, I thought that was Jon Peters? the giant spider I mean

[@BuzzabeelYT]

Except no other company has even tried to make a cinematic universe. DC spat out one origin movie and then went straight to civil war with BvS. Then rebooted. Then rebooted again. Sony just did Venom, then did Morbius, and didn’t even try to connect them other than a joke or two. Like imagine if Thor never went to earth, the MCU did Thor 2 and 3, then did civil war and expected you to know who all the avengers were and have us watch them fight for two hours without any added explanation.

[@lunatickgeo]

Sorry... I misread your comment. You're right, Kevin Smith was talking about Jon Peters! I misread it as it was Kevin Smith's idea to have the giant spider in Superman! I'm sorry, my fingers got ahead of my brain (which was on vacation)

[@uncharted3awesome]

@@BuzzabeelYT Don't forget Universal's Dark Universe, and the Kong vs Godzilla universe

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

Venom 2 make 20x the $ as the best Sci Fi action film this year so the joke is the public taste.

[@Lynch2507]

I hear you, i get what you're saying, counter-point.... El Muerte movie.

[@IcyDiamond]

Sony legit chose a character with less than 3 appearances for a solo movie

[@Lynch2507]

@@IcyDiamond he's in exactly two comic books as part of one story arc. he is barely a character.

[@IcyDiamond]

@@Lynch2507 And he’s who they chose for their new Spider-Man spin off

[@Handsomereviews]

Appreciate you coming back and saying this. When he said unless Sony decided to make a movie that barely has to do with spider man. El muerto came out to play

[@ang1217sr]

Literally Big Wheel has more appearances than this guy. *Big Wheel.* Just let that sink in.

[@hartthorn]

Ending scene idea: Garfield:Peter DOES show up at the very end to help in a rather minor way (maybe apprehending Jameson while the Six are dealing with a Smythe who has lost all grip with reality), but because Spidey's contribution was very public while the Six's was more covert, Spidey gets all the credit for saving New York and THAT is the start of the enmity between everyone and Spidey.

[@Crick1952]

I love it

[@zarinaa1135]

That's awesome! It's just that kinda petty misunderstanding that makes villains so great! Especially a group, they can't all have the same deep philosophical ideals that drive them to band together to destroy Spidey. They're just mad he got their credit cause they're selfish jerks. And that's why we love them

[@hartthorn]

@@zarinaa1135 it could also cause a sort of contempt spiral. As they keep trying to get "even" with Spidey but he keeps winning they get angrier and angrier. Maybe rope in new characters who were just supposed to be assets but then buy in after an asskicking. Others might fall off as they realise things are getting out of hand.

[@MessyBricksRoadTo300]

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[@DeathRex88]

Then he turns and goes "wait, are you guys the Avengers?" After remembering other Peter mention a super team in his universe.

[@SomeGuy1918]

I’m convinced Sony is googling “Marvel characters we own the rights to” and greenlighting every single name on the list

[@Powl_J]

Since we’re already predicting things we want to see and things that would make sense for Sony to do, I instead would like to predict some of the baffling decisions Sony will inevitably make: -cast a new live action Spider-Man (either a no name or someone no one likes a la Jared Leto) -the sinister six will not have six members -Tom holland will play a minor character that’s not Spider-Man -the first cgi Stan lee cameo -one movie will feature venom exclusively in venom form because they couldn’t get Tom hardy

[@Paradox-es3bl]

Not crazy enough. Don't is managed by Spinal Tap. You forgot to turn your crazy up to 11.

[@kangbarret]

Sony: We would like to announce our new pick for spiderman... Amber Heard

[@GeneralBolas]

Technically, the first CGI Stan Lee cameo was in Into The Spiderverse.

[@samdalseide5060]

@@GeneralBolas He appeared in Big Hero 6 four years before Into the Spider-Verse.

[@matthewjanzen4837]

Sony will establish that SPUMC is in the TASM universe, but reintroduce a TASM villain played by a different actor

[@ATroknya]

They so badly want to do this Cinematic Universe thing, but why not a bunch of one-off stories from the EDGE OF THE SPIDERVERSE (get it?) Do Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Punk, Spiders-Man, Silver Sable, Miles Morales, anything but the Sinister Six.

[@The_Jovian]

Edge of the spiderverse animated anthology series where all the spider people team up at the end

[@Ja-LonnieBilal]

I would like to see a live action Miguel O'Hara movie too taken place in 2099. It would be interesting if they could do a story like they did with the video game edge of time

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

Sony should just make animated spider-man films and do an expanded deal where they can use any characters they want from the MCU while Marvel gets to use spider-man and his rogues' gallery.

[@themaker2149]

@@spaceghostcqc2137 I've said this before it's best for everyone

[@victor.maskalenka]

Chameleon is already confirmed and casted in Kraven, it seems like he'll be important in the movie since the movie seems to be some kind of a family drama with everyone in the Kravenverse

[@victor.maskalenka]

Do you prefere Kravenverse, Kravense or Kraverse?

[@Zombiesnyder13]

AVI ARAD will ruin everything

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@Zombiesnyder13 Agreed! what he did to Spider 3, TASM 1, and TASM2 was unforgivable.

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

Nooooooo not my boy Dmitri being involved in this mess :(

[@radrno7]

Yeah, my guess is that Chameleon is going to be the centerpiece of the Sinister Six movie, just like Loki was for Avengers. Ironically Chameleon is Kraven's brother and they hate each other because Chameleon is the black sheep of the family that keeps tricking others with his schemes and impersonations, just like Loki and Thor.

[@Neurodivergent-j1f]

The reason why Garfield’s Peter could work in the Morbius world? The underlying theme of TASM movies is the mixing of animals with human experimentation to improve human capabilities. Kurt Connors was messing with lizard DNA to bring back his arm(and cure Norman Osborn) Max Dillon became Electro from getting shocked by modified electric eels. Peter Parker got bit by a spider designed with his father’s DNA. The common theme is mixing animals with human. Morbius is literally a guy who’s utilizing the capability of bats to cure his blood affliction.

[@lachlanlyleport7276]

"I would br shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exist" 2 hours later *Enter El Muerto*

[@SpiritLife]

Nando is the kind of guy I'd love to sit around and just chat movies with. His ideas always get me excited

[@Aliraldd992]

The highlight of the movie will be the high speed chase between the flying meta hunting drones and the Big Wheel, trough the busy streets of a New York night

[@adrianhv3083]

Don't forget about throwing Rocket Racer into the mix

[@Greenphantom16]

And the wall trying to block Spiderman!

[@discosludge]

This would be a best case scenario for me. It could even lend itself to a final bout between Spider-Man (who reappears after he's presumed dead from the Scorpion fight) and the Sinister Six to defend JJJ despite how much they hate each other, referencing some of the tender parts of their relationship from the comics and in the first Spider-Man movies. Great video!

[@jomol4598]

that would be pretty cool, they’re not really after spider-man, but he’s defending jameson

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

The issue is they've cut the personal connections to spider-man out of all of these characters backstories so it wouldn't be that interestin.

[@solidsnake5700]

@@spaceghostcqc2137 but it could become the sinister sixes origin for their hate for spiderman

[@workyoutube7798]

even better, first scene with spidey is all done from news cameras and cell videos, found footage style, and at the end when he shows back up we get the big reveal as to which spidey we are watching, maguire, garfield, holland... or a new spiderman shows up to fight the sinister six, mah fackin mile morales!

[@channel45853]

@@workyoutube7798 yeah, I hope it's a new Spidey. It could be a mix of Garfield's grim Spiderman, and maybe Tom's Spiderman? idk, but they should make a new Spidey imo. but, if garfield wants to come back, maybe it could be his spidey but from another universe

[@guccifer764]

El Muerte is the key to all of this, if we can just get El Muerte to work, because he’s a funnier character than we’ve ever had in the other movies before… I may have gone too far in some places.

[@BobSilverstein13]

It's gonna be great

[@HxH2011DRA]

I'm in *tears* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Wico90YT]

Next up, Corn of Coblin

[@nachoprime9649]

I know this is a reference to something... but I'm blanking on it atm

[@HxH2011DRA]

@@nachoprime9649 George Lucas on Jar Jar Binks, from the behind the scenes of the making of Episode 1: The Phantom Menace

[@jacktriesto]

“I guess he just wants to be a lizard “ is unfortunately a hilariously accurate description of two movie appearances’ worth of characterisation

[@mateogaviria4654]

I love the ironic timing of Nando releasing a video with a pitch to kind of save this universe right after Sony does a Sony and announces the El Muerto film.

[@towseefhossain8539]

The fact that it takes 13 and a half minutes of a 16 minute video to remotely claw together the canon of whatever universe this is should be indicative of how unlikely it is for this to be conceived by Sony heads, let alone work as a movie.

[@sblinder1978]

The best villain for a Garfield-verse is of course, Mondays. Perhaps a Monday that will shoot a laser beam into the sky that destroys lasagna.

[@TerrenceNowicki]

Sinister Six featuring Monday, Nermal, that duck from those Garfield and Friends farm segments, Binky the Clown, a spoiled serving of lasagna, and the mastermind who brings them all together, LYMAN.

[@samuelwilkin5]

Big Wheel should have his own movie tho

[@__Soya__]

Nah make him the big bad of Avengers: Secret Wars

[@philopharynx7910]

Also, the Vulture that transitioned to the SPUMC was in prison. He had nothing on him. Because he has no identity, he has no money. This world was not invaded by the chitauri, so no chitauri tech exists. We don't know if the Tinkerer exists in this universe, but if so, he doesn't know Birdman. And yet, he ends up with wings that look like his chitauri-tech wings from the MCU. ...instead of simply patenting this revolutionary technology that only he knows about. He could get rich and experiment with finding a way to get back to his daughter.

[@wdcain1]

Since Spidey has so many legacy villains, I'd set up two Six teams with the first being a heroic prequel to setup up things and the second being full-on villains Peter fights.

[@GenerationWest]

I love how well thought out and detailed this video explains out to save the universe. Then Sony drops El Muerto.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

#ElMuertoSweep

[@quememirai9262]

Sony already has a cinematic Sinister Six, Kingpin, Doc Ock, Prowler, Green Goblin, Scorpion and Tombstone, Did everyone forgot Spider-Verse?

[@SantiBarrios]

It could be It could also be a dumpster fire though

[@Zombiesnyder13]

With Avi Arad in charge It will be a nuclear dumpster fire

[@alexp.288]

It’s a shame that Vulture has been snatched up for this because he would be great for Thunderbolts. Someone who doesn’t particularly want to be there but is forced into it to keep his family safe and isn’t quite as villainous as the others.

[@brewmaster2912]

They still can do it. Thunderbolts isn’t out yet and they can just ignore Morbius.

[@idkwhattoputherelol9049]

Can’t wait for El Muerto in the Sony sinister six

[@BoveeTV]

Sony’s Spider-Man department is on fire. I mean WHO is deciding which characters to make movies about???

[@crabmorgan]

I wouldnt be surprised if it was just some random number generator making all these decisions

[@Wico90YT]

They're letting other people decide. They don't have a plan.

[@josephjarosch8739]

A Ouija board.

[@NeroLeMorte]

Avi arad the executive menace that's who

[@Chuck_EL]

@@NeroLeMorte ever since blade and X-Men did really well he's had this belief it's all due to him

[@tskmaster3837]

Counterpoint: No. Evidence: Sony.

[@LrdzLF]

Idk... To me "No way home" feels already some kinda of Sinister six movie

[@Pedalpunk57]

I feel like maybe Vulture will trick Venom, Morbius and the rest into thinking Spiderman is evil similar to how Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking Sonic is evil and pretty much they want to fight Tom Holland's Spiderman or at least Vulture does because he encountered him before but just doesnt remember Peter being Spiderman and obviously him being transported to the Sony universe already shows that its due to the spell Doctor Strange has did to undo everything that happened in No Way Home the plothole is how did he get there when his universe is the MCU that doesnt make sense much but maybe hes been brought there so Vulture wouldnt be able to find out Peters identity again but that wasnt said in No Way Home so it throws people off!

[@spidy2074]

"After Morbius bumped, I imagine Sony is going back to basics and stick to making sure things like Venom; I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exists and who has nothing to do with Spider-Man..." *El Muerto gets announced

[@dessel5683]

i really like the pitch, my only drawback being that besides morbius and venom most of them don't have super visible or any superpowers, making it harder to sell the idea that they all fit into a group before teaming up

[@christianemerson4622]

Isn't that the idea, though? A team has better dynamics when they have different skills and powers

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

@@christianemerson4622 Did you listen to his story pitch? He said Jameson is going after metahumans yet Vulture, Black Cat, Kraven and Shocker aren't metahumans so why would Jameson even go after them let alone associate them with Venom and Morbius?

[@bwill1268]

@@Patrick-pc3vq both kraven and black cat have super powers

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

@@bwill1268 Yeah in some comics they did but i hardly doubt they will adapt them as metahumans.

[@redherring2720]

I had an idea for a spider-man game where you have to fight the sinister six but the ending changes depending on the order you fight them. Each time you defeat one the others get stronger/more difficult. I also had a mechanic where you had to choose what side missions you do (Crime fight/Make Money(Tech)/maintain relationships) and you can only do a certain number of them (i.e. 10 out of 15 total missions).

[@juanig4198]

that really nice it could be like a strategy game or just making the side mission minigames

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

Sounds like a true Spiderman experience.

[@rockincradilyyyy8489]

That sounds great and a better execution of shadow the hedgehog’s ending system

[@jimsjutebox2495]

Haven’t watched yet but this title is interesting

[@NandovMovies]

I appreciate it!

[@itzzbowserjr]

“I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero who very very very few comic fans even know exist.” So how do you all think he reacted to El Muerto? I pressed send before the update but played. I love it.

[@low-key-tony]

I love how the Superior Foes of Spider-Man got a reference.

[@gedeonnunes5626]

I have a pitch of my own, it just completely ignores the SPUMC in order to favor Toomes and McCargan, who are already stablished previous to Venom and Morbius and the former seem much more interesting than the later to see, not to mention that Venom and Morbius are meant to be anti-heroes or whatever, I don't much care about them. NWH already made use of 2004's Dock Ock, so any chance of an MCU version of him is gone, but guess what, we already have a cold-blooded criminal head figure with a moral code of his own and a personal relationship with Peter in Toomes. The plot is very simple, they want to take revenge on Spidey and need to learn to work as a team, but it's mostly focused on the charecters themselves, their powers and the mechanics of it in relation to the problems that they need to solve. Also, Toomes is the veteran mastermind, but we get a battle of egoes between him and Kraven, who, despite having the same goals as the rest of them, likes to improvise and disobey a bit too much and risks putting the operation in a premature end, but luckily the things work and the rest of the crew likes him at first. It starts with a montage of all of them being captured, it downplays a lot of them as we see Spidey taking them down quite easily while having a laugh at them. They're a bunch of goofs with excentric powers, how could any of this work? The whole film takes place in the spider-man prison for spider-man villains (is it Ryker Island? Can't remember the name for sure, sorry) it's a special prison for super-powered folk and we learn a lot about it, how it works and all and how can the six overcome the security system using each of their own skills. We see them taking notes of the prison, the weak spots of it, them crafting their plan and executing it. But we must see it clearly, the audience must understand it, so stuff don't seem like it came out of nowhere, it's like they're solving a puzzle. It ends with them getting out, those who had special gear recover it and those who did not, get it. Toomes gets them to work as a swiss Clock, but, again, Kraven shows to be a problematic member, which ultimately pays off in our sequence, Spider-Man VS The Sinister Six. Sony wants a villains film, let's give it to them, let's show our charismatic, but evil villains gather and grow as a menance to Spider-Man and the whole city of New York. It doesn't need to be complicated or mind-bending cinema, it just needs to work.

[@eon001]

if this is Garfield's universe, I wouldn't mind seeing Dane Dehaan's Goblin come back.

[@sephandremanticore5438]

I think the "Sinister Six" should be a references to the most connected villains in the city, like Kingpin, and the others fighting Spider-Man are just brought on for that purpose.

[@lonewonderer9771]

There was some "sources" according to Forbes that say, Garfield has turned down the Sinister 6 movie role and subsequently, they'll be rebooting SpiderMan again, in the sony universe... Ikr.

[@Wico90YT]

They should just do someone other than Peter.....like Miles.

[@TheJereld]

Bad Babi should be the next villain. "Cash me outsy, How bout Dat, Spiderman?!"

[@MJ-zl3vo]

I get so excited when I see one of your videos in my subscription box. I've been watching since 'Hela isn't Hela' You're one of my favorite comic channels!!!

[@NandovMovies]

I appreciate it MJ. It's been a long time and I'm glad you're still watching my videos.

[@twelfthknight]

If I were in the weird position of Sony asking me what to do with this Sinister Six movie, my answer would be simple -- do it animated, use Into the Spider-Verse as the base and Jake Johnson's Spider-Man's universe in particular, then use the Superior Foes of Spider-Man as your base. I think you could get a lot of low-key hype behind that. You'd have to change some things around from the comics, probably add more Spider-Man into it here or there, but it's genuinely a story of the Universe of Spider-Man characters that they could do that could be reasonably described as both a "Sinister Six" movie and something I would genuinely want to watch.

[@kbg12ila]

They should just make an Andrew Garfield movie based on him and an alternate universe Gwen Stacey (Emma Stone's Spider Gwen) and have this sonyverse sinister six make an appearance as the villains but have most of the movies focus be on Spiderman and Spider Gwen. Maybe throughout the movie this sinister six could even be played for laughs and not be a serious threat, just a bump in the road.

[@safariatari1094]

Spider-gwen and Peter Parker aren't love interests tho. Making them romantic would remove a lot of what work with an alternative universe's Gwen Stacy

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

@@safariatari1094 In this adaptation it would focus more on the Emma Stone's version of Gwen Stacy and her relationship with Andrew Garfield's Spiderman over actual Spider-Gwen's character from the comics.

[@safariatari1094]

@@Patrick-pc3vq Why would you willingly degrade a previously existing character who somewhat serves a point of not being the same Gwen Stacy spider-man fell in love with just to have a forced on-screen relationship?

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

@@safariatari1094 Love the use of the word degrade hahaha, none of the comic book characters are comic book accurate to the bone because that's simply impossible, this is an adaptation.

[@oldmanlogan9616]

The 6 should be: Venom Morbius Kraven El Muerto Big Wheel Rocket Racer

[@srstriker6420]

I would replace Big Wheel, El Muerto and Rocket Racer for Roderick Kingsley’s Hobgoblin, Stegeon the Dinosaur man and Boomerang.

[@trickyricky4731]

At this point we'll get a "Big Wheel" movie soon EDIT: I hadn't watched the full video, I didn't know you actually brought that up

[@Uvulus1]

Your Herculean efforts to be upbeat and positive about this despite Sony being determined to make everything as terrible as possible is, admirable.

[@noelcrenshaw7969]

The og madam web is old but If i remember correctly, madam web passed her powers on to the former (i think) spiderwoman julia carpenter. So i imagine thats where sony is going with Dakota Johnson

[@Tr1pleS1ngleZer0]

You‘re right. The og Madame Webb died and passed her abilities and her blindness to the 2nd Spider woman Julia carpenter.

[@Wico90YT]

They're allegedly circling Vera Farmiga or Sandra Bullock for the role. More MCU Aunt May age

[@guccifer764]

Your movie idea might just salvage the SPUMC… which is why I know they’ll do the exact opposite

[@connorbeith3232]

The moment you said, "They're not gonna make a movie about a Spidey villain no one's heard of," I was cackling to myself saying, "You fool!" and it was even better when you had to correct yourself. At this point, if El Muerto can get a movie, then I'd say Jackpot is still on the table.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

The hilarious part is that they’ve already done a cinematic Sinister Six in Edge to the Spider-Verse. And then again in the MCU with No Way Home. And before you say “There were only 5! Not 6! 5 isn’t 6!”, Peter is the sixth. Like in the Ultimate Six story arc.

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

You mean Into the Spiderverse?

[@draconic1802]

Oh also, you could kind of swing it like JJJ or Mysterio are the sixth, since their actions set in motion the entirety of the movie by releasing Spider-Man’s identity then publicly destroying his image

[@Durmomo0]

The tree was the 6th (but they should have just used Vulture)

[@Patrick-pc3vq]

@@Durmomo0 I think Rhino from TASM2 would have fit in more, that way the number of Raimi and Webb villains is the same while we get some more from him since TASM2 practiclly didn't even use him.

[@draconic1802]

@@Durmomo0 twould have been fun to have him come back, maybe as a variant, maybe from a universe where he won, but his family died?

[@Tr1pleS1ngleZer0]

The original incarnation of madame Webb is pretty much the same as the madams Webb who appeared in „Spider-Man the animated series“ and who was voiced by the wife of Stan Lee „Joan Lee“

[@Ultramagnetic808]

What are their common goals? Well they kinda just wanna go Morbin around.

[@stevespanoudakis]

I love your pitches.... you got em all slider, sinker, knuckle, even fastball... keep hurlin em

[@dog9700]

*El Muerto has entered the chat*

[@laura-erikapetrides6457]

what if, and hear me out, instead of there being a Spiderman in this universe, its somehow a different one, and Norman Osborne is running for mayor. he was mayor in the games, and he could be the final villain, green goblin.

[@nabongobong9155]

I gotta say this is a very FRESH take on Spiderman and The Sinister Six. I can only imagine the scene where Jameson gave his speech after the presumed death of Spiderman, saying that he ended the menace and now he is coming after The Sinister Six, and they watch from different places as it is broadcasted through the news, the internet, and everywhere just like in NWH I also love the promise that these people are just freaks and not all evil who is being hunted down by the authorities

[@Alex-24610]

In recent news, this whole thing can no longer be in the TASM universe. The Kraven trailer has the Rhino and it’s the rhino mutant skin instead of the mech.

[@alisterfolson]

Nando: pitches idea Sony: get him an agent and a screenwriter!

[@iamalittler]

I still like the idea that Vulture look his suit from the Sequel Basement in ASM2

[@ProdCritic]

Amy Pascal: Let's take a character whose powers are based on a form of entertainment that peaked before Nickelback even did, and cast him with someone who has basically never acted before. Also he's not a hero or a villain, in fact he has no real motivation to fight anyone. Sidenote, we cant get Tom Holland or Andrew Garfield to agree to be in it so no Spiderman. Deal?

[@themarinefan]

I do believe that sinsister six movie would take place on earth 120703. Since Morbius does not ask who spider-man is he most likely already heard of him. And it would most likely be a story of vulture forming the sinister six to get back home to earth 199999 and they still do crimes and things but just to get the things vulture needs, where in it seems like betrays them but has a change of heart and take his new 5 friends home with him (with bands to stop them from doing the spiderverse glitch) And that's how we get the sinister six in the mcu.

[@safariatari1094]

I like the idea, but maybe having Andrew's spiderman beat within 1 scene by Jameson, Smithe and Scorpion would leave a bad taste in the mouths of the public who (in majority) have just recently started to like his version of spiderman. You could have Spider-man play more of an active role but not necessarily a main role. Maybe (if we're taking a more fun route) you can have him team up against scorpion and smithe with the 6 in a final battle, and maybe his relationship with the team (the Sinister 7?) makes them all hate him, so you can lead into a Sinister 6 vs spiderman film in future. I also think because we're using Scorpion, Venom, and Kraven, this is a perfect opportunity to de-power eddie by either giving the symbiote to Andrew and then crafting a story around Kraven's last hunt, or giving the symbiote to scorpion and having him appear as a villain to Andrew in a new TASM film.

[@Hertaspacestation6980]

Imagine El Muerte had a solo movie and he battle an evil El Muerte. This sounds so bad that sony put Spiderman cameos. And in opening weekend they earn $6 Billion. Turns out the spiderman cameo is in the post credit only.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

I mean, in the comics he fights against a golden masked wrestler who looks almost exactly like him just with a golden costume, named El Dorado so…yeah. You’re probably right on the money there.

[@jordanwhite352]

"I would be shocked if Sony announces a movie featuring a comic book character that even comic book fans know very little of." Sony: Hypno Hustler starring Danny Glover! Boy did that comment not age well.

[@mickeymouse7726]

10:40 I can't believe this obscure Spider-Man character is getting their own spinoff movie

[@OhNoBohNo]

Nando feels like he's actively losing his mind throughout this whole video, with the little post-editing scene being a foreshadowing for where he's going xD

[@jamiemccreath3959]

Still doesn't seem that interesting, we've seen this kind of story done better with Civil War and the X-Men movies

[@UltimateMiketron]

Nah. After Morbius and now having realized El Muerto had only been in 2 issues i realized Sony has no clue what they're doing anymore. They need to stop being stubborn and sell the spiderman film rights back to Marvel/Disney. I just want the Marvel universe under one uncontested banner ffs.

[@VonderHorse]

Sony's Sinister Six continuity gives off big Fox X-Men continuity vibes

[@srstriker6420]

I hope that Roderick Kingsley and Stegeon the Dinosaur man are in the this sinister six.

[@alfiehartshorne8394]

My pitch: Somehow all the six are in New York. Vulture and Morbius go after Spider-Man, but are nearly killed because Spider-Man is much more brutal than they thought. They assemble the six to fight Spider-Man, who is revealed to not be Peter Parker. In this universe, Peter was killed by Otto Octavius who took over his body, becoming the Superior Spider-Man. This way, we still get a Sinister Six vs Spider-Man film, but one that flips the usual dynamic on its head and does something completely different with Spider-Man.

[@brooxshannon3874]

Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt???

[@moonmyers2608]

Because that’s what Anti Heroes do

[@Carloszavalalol]

Spider-Man 2.

[@keving5004]

@@Carloszavalalol They havent made a movie any where near that quality in years

[@guccifer764]

It’s not so much giving them the benefit if the doubt insomuch as it is “here’s how they could salvage it… but probably won’t”

[@human7740]

What about Scorpion? He was in the same prison as Vulture. Maybe Dr Strange sent him to the same universe.

[@mickeymouse7726]

8:00 I think what that means is that Sony is going to use madame web to have crossovers with Tom Holland's Spider-Man and SPUMC verse because I don't think Sony wants to constantly rely on Disney and Marvel to do crossovers with Spider-Man by having Doctor Strange being in these films

[@skyeoak3]

Wasn’t expecting to have the Mucho Lucho theme song running through my head on this evening of April 2022. I suppose life is about the small surprises.

[@allenmacias273]

Sony really has no idea what they’re doing. I can’t believe Morbius, Kraven, and EL MUERTO are getting movies before any of the alternate spider men. They might not even ever get a movie

[@calebray1834]

Right, Kraven should be a villain in a Spider-Man movie, Morbious bombed and El Muarte don’t get me started.

[@jacktoma21]

I kind of just assumed that when the cured villains were sent back they simply created branching timelines, with one not affecting the others. Tobey and Andrew go back and things still went down exactly the same from the previous movies. Mostly I thought this because I didn’t want anything to get reconned from the movies I liked.

[@HawkMaestroTTV]

"They haven't even mentioned Spider-Man" Me: Cries in Let there be carnage and NWH credits

[@spiraljumper74]

Well, this video has set me up for a massive disappointment when the Sinister Six movie comes out and is inevitably not nearly as well-considered and sensical as this.

[@mbletz3958]

I honestly love how much this pitch has references to Spider-Man the Animated Series

[@flashtyb]

Chameleon would be a great pick, considering he’s technically Spider-Man’s first supervillain (not counting the original Enforcers, Ox, Fancy Dan and Montana)

[@TherealLEGOgirl2005]

Love the plush charl in the background

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

The horror on my face at 6:40 when I realised he made this video before the Forbes report that Sony already asked Andrew to be the Spider-Man of the Spumc and he declined. 😭

[@Ze___r0]

Can’t this Vulture be the one that was on this universe? He could’ve went to the MCU during the NWH events and came back after. I really don’t know if this is possible, I haven’t watched Morbius and I don’t intend to.

[@KaNCeRmm4life]

you know.. that's not a bad theory

[@SoloDoloSpaceman]

Morbius is a decent flick. Don’t let the unwarranted hate train deter you.

[@Wico90YT]

That's what they SHOULD have done, but didn't. They could just retcon if because who cares at this point

[@MekBoooooi]

No way home was 1 character away from a sinister 6. JJ could've stayed in his fake news "Spiderman brought these sinister six to our universe!"

[@moonmyers2608]

It all ties into El Muerto

[@IcyDiamond]

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[@sourduck_art]

They're making a hypno hustler movie now💀

[@tran4of3]

Oh man, def glad I rewatched this after watching the Patreon cut. Heck yeah, El Muerto! Always fun takes, Nando!

[@obara7366]

Sony IS making a Spider-Gwen movie- well, it's Gwen focused but will be an ensemble film with other spider ladies. Silk and Spider woman were confirmed. But that's animated tho. It was announced shortly after Into The Spiderverse first came out; it's a sequel. The 2 showrunners for Voltron were assigned to direct the sequels. Jaoguim Dos Santos is handling the Miles movies, and Lauren Mauntagumery is doing the Gwen movie. Although that was where things stood in 2019. I haven't heard a peep about it since then.

[@jeremymorris345]

Unironiclly I would love to see a modern day take on big wheel or that wall dude

[@marcrichardson517]

Honestly…Rhino is who I wanna see. Also…it’ll be Garfield’s verse…

[@futuregarrett4769]

I think Murbius could be manipulated into believing that only Spider-Man’s blood could cure his vampire issue

[@alexandercandicedad1355]

Love this idea as the antithesis to Disney's Marvel's heavy handed pro-authoritarian! Maybe a sub-theme about criminalization and over- policing? Man, now I'm invested in this idea, even though i KNOW they'll never do it justice!

[@zbaksh101]

I liked it. 👍 Edit- Nando, it would be better if you renamed the team the Outlaws. It fits their antihero status better.

[@maceofbass9295]

Especially after Jed McKay's wonderful Black Cat series, I hope Sony doesn't even think about doing anything with Felicia Hardy. I couldn't handle them murdering another great character.

[@justbny9278]

Mate they're doing El Muerto there's no telling what they will do but Everything is certainly In the Table, and Black Cat & Sable have had rumors about a movie about them in the works for ages now

[@seanmiller4170]

If they want to do a cinematic universe where they build up a team before an eventual big team-up film, why not the Wild Pack or Slingers?

[@MK0DarkSpartan853]

3 things: 1.- I like the proposal of villains and the Garfield Cameo, it would be an interesting idea to see how it evolves from there, maybe it reignites Garfield's Spiderman and gets him a new trilogy and could see this characters evolve (Black Cat as a love interest, Morbius stepping away if the team becomes more violent, maybe scorpion becomes part of the Six at the end, etc...) 2.- This pitch is a great idea, yet I can't see Sony going for something similar thanks to Morbius and the info about El Muerto movie with Bad Bunny (I´m from Mexico, I cannot see this going well...) 3.- If in any way this comes true, or the character of JJJ comes to this new universe, I propose that they cast J. K. Simmons AGAIN for the rol (It could be a great joke inside the spiderman fandom)