It's like Sony took the negatives of both the MCU being too formulaic and the DCEU with it's lack of coherence and connection and mushed them together to the point that they've dug themselves into a hole so deeper, it's easier to get out the otherside then it is to climb back out
@maleficking65562 жыл бұрын
Is it really that incomprehensible? Most of the confusion really just comes from the Morbius credit scenes, which are easily fixable.
@gavo79112 жыл бұрын
@@maleficking6556 How is it fixable? It completely ruins Vulture’s character AND makes no sense from NWH.
@maleficking65562 жыл бұрын
@@gavo7911 Because post credit scenes can be retconned or redone. It's that simple.
@maleficking65562 жыл бұрын
Update on this, there's literally a version of the scene now where some of Vulture's dialogue is removed. My point is proven exactly.
@radrno72 жыл бұрын
@@maleficking6556 They need to completely erase the Vulture scenes. That's the only way to fix it.
@Dr.Mantis_Tobagan2 жыл бұрын
They're going to be more like the sympathetic 6 not sinister.
@keithragin892 жыл бұрын
Ok
@haroldnecmann70402 жыл бұрын
Sony six
@useless47132 жыл бұрын
Lool
@danielroberson32062 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@Joseph_Drew_III2 жыл бұрын
Let’s not kid ourselves. We’re getting the Outlaws.
@globherman81152 жыл бұрын
This team will just be called ‘The Six’ and they’ll just be Sony’s avengers
@citysmall34272 жыл бұрын
I honestly expect that kind of thing from Sony at this point
@gerardkeohane18372 жыл бұрын
Then the six can cross over with the seven, perfect
@engineergaming15372 жыл бұрын
The Spectacular Six
@DesX42S2 жыл бұрын
I like it. I'm sold.
@slartimus2 жыл бұрын
So, six big heroes... like a Big Hero Six? 😁
@KevinCow2 жыл бұрын
The whole Sinister Six thing is just so funny to me. It's clearly just one of those ideas some producer had (gonna go out on a limb and say Avi Arad or Amy Pascal) and just leaned into obsessively despite nobody else really being into it, like Kevin Smith's story about the giant spider in a Superman movie. Like it's obviously something they came up with in the wake of the success of The Avengers, because they looked at a list of Marvel properties they could use for a team and said, "Ooh, Avengers but bad!" But a decade's passed, the market's changed, every other cinematic universe attempt has flopped, Sony's Spidey spinoffs continue to be a punchline, the general vibe on the Sinister Six movie continues to be, "Really? They're still trying to do that?" and yet they still press on.
@lunatickgeo2 жыл бұрын
wait, I thought that was Jon Peters? the giant spider I mean
@BuzzabeelYT2 жыл бұрын
Except no other company has even tried to make a cinematic universe. DC spat out one origin movie and then went straight to civil war with BvS. Then rebooted. Then rebooted again. Sony just did Venom, then did Morbius, and didn’t even try to connect them other than a joke or two. Like imagine if Thor never went to earth, the MCU did Thor 2 and 3, then did civil war and expected you to know who all the avengers were and have us watch them fight for two hours without any added explanation.
@lunatickgeo2 жыл бұрын
Sorry... I misread your comment. You're right, Kevin Smith was talking about Jon Peters! I misread it as it was Kevin Smith's idea to have the giant spider in Superman! I'm sorry, my fingers got ahead of my brain (which was on vacation)
@uncharted3awesome2 жыл бұрын
@@BuzzabeelYT Don't forget Universal's Dark Universe, and the Kong vs Godzilla universe
@spaceghostcqc21372 жыл бұрын
Venom 2 make 20x the $ as the best Sci Fi action film this year so the joke is the public taste.
@SomeGuy19182 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced Sony is googling “Marvel characters we own the rights to” and greenlighting every single name on the list
@Lynch25072 жыл бұрын
I hear you, i get what you're saying, counter-point.... El Muerte movie.
@IcyDiamond2 жыл бұрын
Sony legit chose a character with less than 3 appearances for a solo movie
@Lynch25072 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond he's in exactly two comic books as part of one story arc. he is barely a character.
@IcyDiamond2 жыл бұрын
@@Lynch2507 And he’s who they chose for their new Spider-Man spin off
@Handsomereviews2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you coming back and saying this. When he said unless Sony decided to make a movie that barely has to do with spider man. El muerto came out to play
@ang1217sr2 жыл бұрын
Literally Big Wheel has more appearances than this guy. *Big Wheel.* Just let that sink in.
@hartthorn2 жыл бұрын
Ending scene idea: Garfield:Peter DOES show up at the very end to help in a rather minor way (maybe apprehending Jameson while the Six are dealing with a Smythe who has lost all grip with reality), but because Spidey's contribution was very public while the Six's was more covert, Spidey gets all the credit for saving New York and THAT is the start of the enmity between everyone and Spidey.
@Crick19522 жыл бұрын
I love it
@zarinaa11352 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! It's just that kinda petty misunderstanding that makes villains so great! Especially a group, they can't all have the same deep philosophical ideals that drive them to band together to destroy Spidey. They're just mad he got their credit cause they're selfish jerks. And that's why we love them
@hartthorn2 жыл бұрын
@@zarinaa1135 it could also cause a sort of contempt spiral. As they keep trying to get "even" with Spidey but he keeps winning they get angrier and angrier. Maybe rope in new characters who were just supposed to be assets but then buy in after an asskicking. Others might fall off as they realise things are getting out of hand.
Then he turns and goes "wait, are you guys the Avengers?" After remembering other Peter mention a super team in his universe.
@victor.maskalenka2 жыл бұрын
Chameleon is already confirmed and casted in Kraven, it seems like he'll be important in the movie since the movie seems to be some kind of a family drama with everyone in the Kravenverse
@victor.maskalenka2 жыл бұрын
Do you prefere Kravenverse, Kravense or Kraverse?
@Zombiesnyder132 жыл бұрын
AVI ARAD will ruin everything
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo not my boy Dmitri being involved in this mess :(
@radrno72 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my guess is that Chameleon is going to be the centerpiece of the Sinister Six movie, just like Loki was for Avengers. Ironically Chameleon is Kraven's brother and they hate each other because Chameleon is the black sheep of the family that keeps tricking others with his schemes and impersonations, just like Loki and Thor.
@Neurodivergent-j1f2 жыл бұрын
The reason why Garfield’s Peter could work in the Morbius world? The underlying theme of TASM movies is the mixing of animals with human experimentation to improve human capabilities. Kurt Connors was messing with lizard DNA to bring back his arm(and cure Norman Osborn) Max Dillon became Electro from getting shocked by modified electric eels. Peter Parker got bit by a spider designed with his father’s DNA. The common theme is mixing animals with human. Morbius is literally a guy who’s utilizing the capability of bats to cure his blood affliction.
@SpiritLife2 жыл бұрын
Nando is the kind of guy I'd love to sit around and just chat movies with. His ideas always get me excited
@lachlanlyleport72762 жыл бұрын
"I would br shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exist" 2 hours later *Enter El Muerto*
@ATroknya2 жыл бұрын
They so badly want to do this Cinematic Universe thing, but why not a bunch of one-off stories from the EDGE OF THE SPIDERVERSE (get it?) Do Superior Spider-Man, Spider-Punk, Spiders-Man, Silver Sable, Miles Morales, anything but the Sinister Six.
@The_Jovian2 жыл бұрын
Edge of the spiderverse animated anthology series where all the spider people team up at the end
@Ja-LonnieBilal2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a live action Miguel O'Hara movie too taken place in 2099. It would be interesting if they could do a story like they did with the video game edge of time
@spaceghostcqc21372 жыл бұрын
Sony should just make animated spider-man films and do an expanded deal where they can use any characters they want from the MCU while Marvel gets to use spider-man and his rogues' gallery.
@themaker21492 жыл бұрын
@@spaceghostcqc2137 I've said this before it's best for everyone
@Powl_J2 жыл бұрын
Since we’re already predicting things we want to see and things that would make sense for Sony to do, I instead would like to predict some of the baffling decisions Sony will inevitably make: -cast a new live action Spider-Man (either a no name or someone no one likes a la Jared Leto) -the sinister six will not have six members -Tom holland will play a minor character that’s not Spider-Man -the first cgi Stan lee cameo -one movie will feature venom exclusively in venom form because they couldn’t get Tom hardy
@Paradox-es3bl2 жыл бұрын
Not crazy enough. Don't is managed by Spinal Tap. You forgot to turn your crazy up to 11.
@kangbarret2 жыл бұрын
Sony: We would like to announce our new pick for spiderman... Amber Heard
@GeneralBolas2 жыл бұрын
Technically, the first CGI Stan Lee cameo was in Into The Spiderverse.
@samdalseide50602 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralBolas He appeared in Big Hero 6 four years before Into the Spider-Verse.
@matthewjanzen48372 жыл бұрын
Sony will establish that SPUMC is in the TASM universe, but reintroduce a TASM villain played by a different actor
@Aliraldd9922 жыл бұрын
The highlight of the movie will be the high speed chase between the flying meta hunting drones and the Big Wheel, trough the busy streets of a New York night
@adrianhv30832 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about throwing Rocket Racer into the mix
@Greenphantom16 Жыл бұрын
And the wall trying to block Spiderman!
@discosludge2 жыл бұрын
This would be a best case scenario for me. It could even lend itself to a final bout between Spider-Man (who reappears after he's presumed dead from the Scorpion fight) and the Sinister Six to defend JJJ despite how much they hate each other, referencing some of the tender parts of their relationship from the comics and in the first Spider-Man movies. Great video!
@jomol45982 жыл бұрын
that would be pretty cool, they’re not really after spider-man, but he’s defending jameson
@spaceghostcqc21372 жыл бұрын
The issue is they've cut the personal connections to spider-man out of all of these characters backstories so it wouldn't be that interestin.
@solidsnake57002 жыл бұрын
@@spaceghostcqc2137 but it could become the sinister sixes origin for their hate for spiderman
@workyoutube77982 жыл бұрын
even better, first scene with spidey is all done from news cameras and cell videos, found footage style, and at the end when he shows back up we get the big reveal as to which spidey we are watching, maguire, garfield, holland... or a new spiderman shows up to fight the sinister six, mah fackin mile morales!
@channel458532 жыл бұрын
@@workyoutube7798 yeah, I hope it's a new Spidey. It could be a mix of Garfield's grim Spiderman, and maybe Tom's Spiderman? idk, but they should make a new Spidey imo. but, if garfield wants to come back, maybe it could be his spidey but from another universe
@mateogaviria46542 жыл бұрын
I love the ironic timing of Nando releasing a video with a pitch to kind of save this universe right after Sony does a Sony and announces the El Muerto film.
@jacktriesto2 жыл бұрын
“I guess he just wants to be a lizard “ is unfortunately a hilariously accurate description of two movie appearances’ worth of characterisation
@towseefhossain85392 жыл бұрын
The fact that it takes 13 and a half minutes of a 16 minute video to remotely claw together the canon of whatever universe this is should be indicative of how unlikely it is for this to be conceived by Sony heads, let alone work as a movie.
@guccifer7642 жыл бұрын
El Muerte is the key to all of this, if we can just get El Muerte to work, because he’s a funnier character than we’ve ever had in the other movies before… I may have gone too far in some places.
@BobSilverstein132 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be great
@HxH2011DRA2 жыл бұрын
I'm in *tears* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Wico90YT2 жыл бұрын
Next up, Corn of Coblin
@nachoprime96492 жыл бұрын
I know this is a reference to something... but I'm blanking on it atm
@HxH2011DRA2 жыл бұрын
@@nachoprime9649 George Lucas on Jar Jar Binks, from the behind the scenes of the making of Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
@sblinder19782 жыл бұрын
The best villain for a Garfield-verse is of course, Mondays. Perhaps a Monday that will shoot a laser beam into the sky that destroys lasagna.
@TerrenceNowicki2 жыл бұрын
Sinister Six featuring Monday, Nermal, that duck from those Garfield and Friends farm segments, Binky the Clown, a spoiled serving of lasagna, and the mastermind who brings them all together, LYMAN.
@samuelwilkin52 жыл бұрын
Big Wheel should have his own movie tho
@__Soya__11 ай бұрын
Nah make him the big bad of Avengers: Secret Wars
@GenerationWest2 жыл бұрын
I love how well thought out and detailed this video explains out to save the universe. Then Sony drops El Muerto.
@cartoonishidealism5822 жыл бұрын
#ElMuertoSweep
@philopharynx79102 жыл бұрын
Also, the Vulture that transitioned to the SPUMC was in prison. He had nothing on him. Because he has no identity, he has no money. This world was not invaded by the chitauri, so no chitauri tech exists. We don't know if the Tinkerer exists in this universe, but if so, he doesn't know Birdman. And yet, he ends up with wings that look like his chitauri-tech wings from the MCU. ...instead of simply patenting this revolutionary technology that only he knows about. He could get rich and experiment with finding a way to get back to his daughter.
@quememirai9262 Жыл бұрын
Sony already has a cinematic Sinister Six, Kingpin, Doc Ock, Prowler, Green Goblin, Scorpion and Tombstone, Did everyone forgot Spider-Verse?
@alexp.2882 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that Vulture has been snatched up for this because he would be great for Thunderbolts. Someone who doesn’t particularly want to be there but is forced into it to keep his family safe and isn’t quite as villainous as the others.
@brewmaster2912 Жыл бұрын
They still can do it. Thunderbolts isn’t out yet and they can just ignore Morbius.
@wdcain12 жыл бұрын
Since Spidey has so many legacy villains, I'd set up two Six teams with the first being a heroic prequel to setup up things and the second being full-on villains Peter fights.
@BoveeTV2 жыл бұрын
Sony’s Spider-Man department is on fire. I mean WHO is deciding which characters to make movies about???
@crabmorgan2 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt be surprised if it was just some random number generator making all these decisions
@Wico90YT2 жыл бұрын
They're letting other people decide. They don't have a plan.
@josephjarosch87392 жыл бұрын
A Ouija board.
@NeroLeMorte2 жыл бұрын
Avi arad the executive menace that's who
@CharlesH-t9r2 жыл бұрын
@@NeroLeMorte ever since blade and X-Men did really well he's had this belief it's all due to him
@spidy20742 жыл бұрын
"After Morbius bumped, I imagine Sony is going back to basics and stick to making sure things like Venom; I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero that very very very few comic fans even know exists and who has nothing to do with Spider-Man..." *El Muerto gets announced
@idkwhattoputherelol90492 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for El Muerto in the Sony sinister six
@tskmaster38372 жыл бұрын
Counterpoint: No. Evidence: Sony.
@LrdzLF2 жыл бұрын
Idk... To me "No way home" feels already some kinda of Sinister six movie
@TheJereld Жыл бұрын
Bad Babi should be the next villain. "Cash me outsy, How bout Dat, Spiderman?!"
@SantiBarrios2 жыл бұрын
It could be It could also be a dumpster fire though
@Zombiesnyder132 жыл бұрын
With Avi Arad in charge It will be a nuclear dumpster fire
@itzzbowserjr2 жыл бұрын
“I would be shocked if they actually produced a movie about a hero who very very very few comic fans even know exist.” So how do you all think he reacted to El Muerto? I pressed send before the update but played. I love it.
@jimsjutebox24952 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet but this title is interesting
@NandovMovies2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!
@redherring27202 жыл бұрын
I had an idea for a spider-man game where you have to fight the sinister six but the ending changes depending on the order you fight them. Each time you defeat one the others get stronger/more difficult. I also had a mechanic where you had to choose what side missions you do (Crime fight/Make Money(Tech)/maintain relationships) and you can only do a certain number of them (i.e. 10 out of 15 total missions).
@juanig41982 жыл бұрын
that really nice it could be like a strategy game or just making the side mission minigames
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a true Spiderman experience.
@rockincradilyyyy8489 Жыл бұрын
That sounds great and a better execution of shadow the hedgehog’s ending system
@trickyricky47312 жыл бұрын
At this point we'll get a "Big Wheel" movie soon EDIT: I hadn't watched the full video, I didn't know you actually brought that up
@MJ-zl3vo2 жыл бұрын
I get so excited when I see one of your videos in my subscription box. I've been watching since 'Hela isn't Hela' You're one of my favorite comic channels!!!
@NandovMovies2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it MJ. It's been a long time and I'm glad you're still watching my videos.
@low-key-tony2 жыл бұрын
I love how the Superior Foes of Spider-Man got a reference.
@Uvulus12 жыл бұрын
Your Herculean efforts to be upbeat and positive about this despite Sony being determined to make everything as terrible as possible is, admirable.
@dessel56832 жыл бұрын
i really like the pitch, my only drawback being that besides morbius and venom most of them don't have super visible or any superpowers, making it harder to sell the idea that they all fit into a group before teaming up
@christianemerson46222 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the idea, though? A team has better dynamics when they have different skills and powers
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
@@christianemerson4622 Did you listen to his story pitch? He said Jameson is going after metahumans yet Vulture, Black Cat, Kraven and Shocker aren't metahumans so why would Jameson even go after them let alone associate them with Venom and Morbius?
@bwill12682 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-pc3vq both kraven and black cat have super powers
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
@@bwill1268 Yeah in some comics they did but i hardly doubt they will adapt them as metahumans.
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache2 жыл бұрын
The hilarious part is that they’ve already done a cinematic Sinister Six in Edge to the Spider-Verse. And then again in the MCU with No Way Home. And before you say “There were only 5! Not 6! 5 isn’t 6!”, Peter is the sixth. Like in the Ultimate Six story arc.
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
You mean Into the Spiderverse?
@draconic18022 жыл бұрын
Oh also, you could kind of swing it like JJJ or Mysterio are the sixth, since their actions set in motion the entirety of the movie by releasing Spider-Man’s identity then publicly destroying his image
@Durmomo02 жыл бұрын
The tree was the 6th (but they should have just used Vulture)
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
@@Durmomo0 I think Rhino from TASM2 would have fit in more, that way the number of Raimi and Webb villains is the same while we get some more from him since TASM2 practiclly didn't even use him.
@draconic18022 жыл бұрын
@@Durmomo0 twould have been fun to have him come back, maybe as a variant, maybe from a universe where he won, but his family died?
@stevespanoudakis2 жыл бұрын
I love your pitches.... you got em all slider, sinker, knuckle, even fastball... keep hurlin em
@MekBoooooi2 жыл бұрын
No way home was 1 character away from a sinister 6. JJ could've stayed in his fake news "Spiderman brought these sinister six to our universe!"
@dog97002 жыл бұрын
*El Muerto has entered the chat*
@eon0012 жыл бұрын
if this is Garfield's universe, I wouldn't mind seeing Dane Dehaan's Goblin come back.
@sephandremanticore54382 жыл бұрын
I think the "Sinister Six" should be a references to the most connected villains in the city, like Kingpin, and the others fighting Spider-Man are just brought on for that purpose.
@Alex-24610 Жыл бұрын
In recent news, this whole thing can no longer be in the TASM universe. The Kraven trailer has the Rhino and it’s the rhino mutant skin instead of the mech.
@lonewonderer97712 жыл бұрын
There was some "sources" according to Forbes that say, Garfield has turned down the Sinister 6 movie role and subsequently, they'll be rebooting SpiderMan again, in the sony universe... Ikr.
@Wico90YT2 жыл бұрын
They should just do someone other than Peter.....like Miles.
@jordanwhite3522 жыл бұрын
"I would be shocked if Sony announces a movie featuring a comic book character that even comic book fans know very little of." Sony: Hypno Hustler starring Danny Glover! Boy did that comment not age well.
@laura-erikapetrides64572 жыл бұрын
what if, and hear me out, instead of there being a Spiderman in this universe, its somehow a different one, and Norman Osborne is running for mayor. he was mayor in the games, and he could be the final villain, green goblin.
@Pedalpunk572 жыл бұрын
I feel like maybe Vulture will trick Venom, Morbius and the rest into thinking Spiderman is evil similar to how Eggman tricked Knuckles into thinking Sonic is evil and pretty much they want to fight Tom Holland's Spiderman or at least Vulture does because he encountered him before but just doesnt remember Peter being Spiderman and obviously him being transported to the Sony universe already shows that its due to the spell Doctor Strange has did to undo everything that happened in No Way Home the plothole is how did he get there when his universe is the MCU that doesnt make sense much but maybe hes been brought there so Vulture wouldnt be able to find out Peters identity again but that wasnt said in No Way Home so it throws people off!
@guccifer7642 жыл бұрын
Your movie idea might just salvage the SPUMC… which is why I know they’ll do the exact opposite
@ProdCritic2 жыл бұрын
Amy Pascal: Let's take a character whose powers are based on a form of entertainment that peaked before Nickelback even did, and cast him with someone who has basically never acted before. Also he's not a hero or a villain, in fact he has no real motivation to fight anyone. Sidenote, we cant get Tom Holland or Andrew Garfield to agree to be in it so no Spiderman. Deal?
@connorbeith32322 жыл бұрын
The moment you said, "They're not gonna make a movie about a Spidey villain no one's heard of," I was cackling to myself saying, "You fool!" and it was even better when you had to correct yourself. At this point, if El Muerto can get a movie, then I'd say Jackpot is still on the table.
@nabongobong91552 жыл бұрын
I gotta say this is a very FRESH take on Spiderman and The Sinister Six. I can only imagine the scene where Jameson gave his speech after the presumed death of Spiderman, saying that he ended the menace and now he is coming after The Sinister Six, and they watch from different places as it is broadcasted through the news, the internet, and everywhere just like in NWH I also love the promise that these people are just freaks and not all evil who is being hunted down by the authorities
@alisterfolson2 жыл бұрын
Nando: pitches idea Sony: get him an agent and a screenwriter!
@iamalittler2 жыл бұрын
I still like the idea that Vulture look his suit from the Sequel Basement in ASM2
@twelfthknight2 жыл бұрын
If I were in the weird position of Sony asking me what to do with this Sinister Six movie, my answer would be simple -- do it animated, use Into the Spider-Verse as the base and Jake Johnson's Spider-Man's universe in particular, then use the Superior Foes of Spider-Man as your base. I think you could get a lot of low-key hype behind that. You'd have to change some things around from the comics, probably add more Spider-Man into it here or there, but it's genuinely a story of the Universe of Spider-Man characters that they could do that could be reasonably described as both a "Sinister Six" movie and something I would genuinely want to watch.
@Hertaspacestation69802 жыл бұрын
Imagine El Muerte had a solo movie and he battle an evil El Muerte. This sounds so bad that sony put Spiderman cameos. And in opening weekend they earn $6 Billion. Turns out the spiderman cameo is in the post credit only.
@cartoonishidealism5822 жыл бұрын
I mean, in the comics he fights against a golden masked wrestler who looks almost exactly like him just with a golden costume, named El Dorado so…yeah. You’re probably right on the money there.
@thomasbennett0 Жыл бұрын
Sony is just doing a Sinister 6 movie because of the popularity of the Suicide Squad. Sony wants their own Suicide Squad.
@mr.iiconic11 ай бұрын
Maybe partially. They had this movie cooking since 2013 and even teased it in TASM2 before the first disastrous Suicide Squad movie even came out. While I don't doubt it has something to do with it, I think it's Avengers inspired originally
@B.r.u.i.s.e.W.a.y.n.e2 жыл бұрын
What are their common goals? Well they kinda just wanna go Morbin around.
@Tr1pleS1ngleZer02 жыл бұрын
The original incarnation of madame Webb is pretty much the same as the madams Webb who appeared in „Spider-Man the animated series“ and who was voiced by the wife of Stan Lee „Joan Lee“
@gedeonnunes56262 жыл бұрын
I have a pitch of my own, it just completely ignores the SPUMC in order to favor Toomes and McCargan, who are already stablished previous to Venom and Morbius and the former seem much more interesting than the later to see, not to mention that Venom and Morbius are meant to be anti-heroes or whatever, I don't much care about them. NWH already made use of 2004's Dock Ock, so any chance of an MCU version of him is gone, but guess what, we already have a cold-blooded criminal head figure with a moral code of his own and a personal relationship with Peter in Toomes. The plot is very simple, they want to take revenge on Spidey and need to learn to work as a team, but it's mostly focused on the charecters themselves, their powers and the mechanics of it in relation to the problems that they need to solve. Also, Toomes is the veteran mastermind, but we get a battle of egoes between him and Kraven, who, despite having the same goals as the rest of them, likes to improvise and disobey a bit too much and risks putting the operation in a premature end, but luckily the things work and the rest of the crew likes him at first. It starts with a montage of all of them being captured, it downplays a lot of them as we see Spidey taking them down quite easily while having a laugh at them. They're a bunch of goofs with excentric powers, how could any of this work? The whole film takes place in the spider-man prison for spider-man villains (is it Ryker Island? Can't remember the name for sure, sorry) it's a special prison for super-powered folk and we learn a lot about it, how it works and all and how can the six overcome the security system using each of their own skills. We see them taking notes of the prison, the weak spots of it, them crafting their plan and executing it. But we must see it clearly, the audience must understand it, so stuff don't seem like it came out of nowhere, it's like they're solving a puzzle. It ends with them getting out, those who had special gear recover it and those who did not, get it. Toomes gets them to work as a swiss Clock, but, again, Kraven shows to be a problematic member, which ultimately pays off in our sequence, Spider-Man VS The Sinister Six. Sony wants a villains film, let's give it to them, let's show our charismatic, but evil villains gather and grow as a menance to Spider-Man and the whole city of New York. It doesn't need to be complicated or mind-bending cinema, it just needs to work.
@kbg12ila2 жыл бұрын
They should just make an Andrew Garfield movie based on him and an alternate universe Gwen Stacey (Emma Stone's Spider Gwen) and have this sonyverse sinister six make an appearance as the villains but have most of the movies focus be on Spiderman and Spider Gwen. Maybe throughout the movie this sinister six could even be played for laughs and not be a serious threat, just a bump in the road.
@safariatari10942 жыл бұрын
Spider-gwen and Peter Parker aren't love interests tho. Making them romantic would remove a lot of what work with an alternative universe's Gwen Stacy
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
@@safariatari1094 In this adaptation it would focus more on the Emma Stone's version of Gwen Stacy and her relationship with Andrew Garfield's Spiderman over actual Spider-Gwen's character from the comics.
@safariatari10942 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-pc3vq Why would you willingly degrade a previously existing character who somewhat serves a point of not being the same Gwen Stacy spider-man fell in love with just to have a forced on-screen relationship?
@Patrick-pc3vq2 жыл бұрын
@@safariatari1094 Love the use of the word degrade hahaha, none of the comic book characters are comic book accurate to the bone because that's simply impossible, this is an adaptation.
@oldmanlogan96162 жыл бұрын
The 6 should be: Venom Morbius Kraven El Muerto Big Wheel Rocket Racer
@srstriker64202 жыл бұрын
I would replace Big Wheel, El Muerto and Rocket Racer for Roderick Kingsley’s Hobgoblin, Stegeon the Dinosaur man and Boomerang.
@tran4of32 жыл бұрын
Oh man, def glad I rewatched this after watching the Patreon cut. Heck yeah, El Muerto! Always fun takes, Nando!
@OhNoBohNo2 жыл бұрын
Nando feels like he's actively losing his mind throughout this whole video, with the little post-editing scene being a foreshadowing for where he's going xD
@Mortalkombat2956 ай бұрын
They’re going to all be motivated by Tony stark and him firing every member because of their inventions
@skyeoak32 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting to have the Mucho Lucho theme song running through my head on this evening of April 2022. I suppose life is about the small surprises.
@CFGMovies2 жыл бұрын
"They haven't even mentioned Spider-Man" Me: Cries in Let there be carnage and NWH credits
@Bettercallricky2 жыл бұрын
petition for a animated marvel movie called superior Iron man
@allenmacias2732 жыл бұрын
Sony really has no idea what they’re doing. I can’t believe Morbius, Kraven, and EL MUERTO are getting movies before any of the alternate spider men. They might not even ever get a movie
@calebray18342 жыл бұрын
Right, Kraven should be a villain in a Spider-Man movie, Morbious bombed and El Muarte don’t get me started.
@noelcrenshaw79692 жыл бұрын
The og madam web is old but If i remember correctly, madam web passed her powers on to the former (i think) spiderwoman julia carpenter. So i imagine thats where sony is going with Dakota Johnson
@Tr1pleS1ngleZer02 жыл бұрын
You‘re right. The og Madame Webb died and passed her abilities and her blindness to the 2nd Spider woman Julia carpenter.
@Wico90YT2 жыл бұрын
They're allegedly circling Vera Farmiga or Sandra Bullock for the role. More MCU Aunt May age
@mbletz39582 жыл бұрын
I honestly love how much this pitch has references to Spider-Man the Animated Series
@themarinefan Жыл бұрын
I do believe that sinsister six movie would take place on earth 120703. Since Morbius does not ask who spider-man is he most likely already heard of him. And it would most likely be a story of vulture forming the sinister six to get back home to earth 199999 and they still do crimes and things but just to get the things vulture needs, where in it seems like betrays them but has a change of heart and take his new 5 friends home with him (with bands to stop them from doing the spiderverse glitch) And that's how we get the sinister six in the mcu.
@mickeymouse77262 жыл бұрын
10:40 I can't believe this obscure Spider-Man character is getting their own spinoff movie
@TherealLEGOgirl20052 жыл бұрын
Love the plush charl in the background
@donanastaciodelegazpi10622 жыл бұрын
I'd hate a sinister 6 movie, but if I absolutely have to have one, I wouldn't hate this that much..
@NandovMovies2 жыл бұрын
That's all we need to hear
@UltimateMiketron2 жыл бұрын
Nah. After Morbius and now having realized El Muerto had only been in 2 issues i realized Sony has no clue what they're doing anymore. They need to stop being stubborn and sell the spiderman film rights back to Marvel/Disney. I just want the Marvel universe under one uncontested banner ffs.
@jamiemccreath39592 жыл бұрын
Still doesn't seem that interesting, we've seen this kind of story done better with Civil War and the X-Men movies
@VonderHorse2 жыл бұрын
Sony's Sinister Six continuity gives off big Fox X-Men continuity vibes
@sourducc2 жыл бұрын
They're making a hypno hustler movie now💀
@human77407 ай бұрын
What about Scorpion? He was in the same prison as Vulture. Maybe Dr Strange sent him to the same universe.
@inc3000 Жыл бұрын
9:28 "There were actually two jackpots, and one was in love with the other so that's neat" Me:...What?!
@flashtyb Жыл бұрын
Chameleon would be a great pick, considering he’s technically Spider-Man’s first supervillain (not counting the original Enforcers, Ox, Fancy Dan and Montana)
@srstriker64202 жыл бұрын
I hope that Roderick Kingsley and Stegeon the Dinosaur man are in the this sinister six.
@komodomp32 жыл бұрын
The Spectacular Six, all fighting against a maniacal evil Spiderman.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep2 жыл бұрын
The horror on my face at 6:40 when I realised he made this video before the Forbes report that Sony already asked Andrew to be the Spider-Man of the Spumc and he declined. 😭
@alexandercandicedad13552 жыл бұрын
Love this idea as the antithesis to Disney's Marvel's heavy handed pro-authoritarian! Maybe a sub-theme about criminalization and over- policing? Man, now I'm invested in this idea, even though i KNOW they'll never do it justice!
@moonmyers26082 жыл бұрын
It all ties into El Muerto
@IcyDiamond2 жыл бұрын
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@lukeduckworth12562 жыл бұрын
How? I mean- I Just- HOW?! You can’t just waltz in here and make me want to watch a sinister six movie you miracle worker!
@jeremymorris3452 жыл бұрын
Unironiclly I would love to see a modern day take on big wheel or that wall dude
@alfiehartshorne83942 жыл бұрын
My pitch: Somehow all the six are in New York. Vulture and Morbius go after Spider-Man, but are nearly killed because Spider-Man is much more brutal than they thought. They assemble the six to fight Spider-Man, who is revealed to not be Peter Parker. In this universe, Peter was killed by Otto Octavius who took over his body, becoming the Superior Spider-Man. This way, we still get a Sinister Six vs Spider-Man film, but one that flips the usual dynamic on its head and does something completely different with Spider-Man.
@spiraljumper742 жыл бұрын
Well, this video has set me up for a massive disappointment when the Sinister Six movie comes out and is inevitably not nearly as well-considered and sensical as this.
@brooxshannon38742 жыл бұрын
Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt???
@moonmyers26082 жыл бұрын
Because that’s what Anti Heroes do
@Carloszavalalol2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2.
@keving50042 жыл бұрын
@@Carloszavalalol They havent made a movie any where near that quality in years
@guccifer7642 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much giving them the benefit if the doubt insomuch as it is “here’s how they could salvage it… but probably won’t”
@shinkaiatsuya9502 жыл бұрын
Morbuis was already an obscure choice but now Sony wants to do discount Bane. Only Sony can think of a worse idea than the previous bad one.
@IcyDiamond2 жыл бұрын
Then after that they make a movie about the beloved Spider-Man villain Kangaroo
@shinkaiatsuya9502 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond could make a movie about Spiderman's Mecha but not feature Spiderman.
@IcyDiamond2 жыл бұрын
@@shinkaiatsuya950 A movie about The Wall, a real Spider-Man villain that I’m not making up
@mangomicrowave65652 жыл бұрын
Doesn't James Gunn did this with GOTG
@marcrichardson5172 жыл бұрын
Honestly…Rhino is who I wanna see. Also…it’ll be Garfield’s verse…
@RonHallKungFuBro2 жыл бұрын
Bravo! You connected all the right dots and generated an idea that is infinitely more exciting than the movie that they will actually make,; unfortunately all those great ideas will go to waste. Bravo. Enjoy your channel :)
@macrobertson252 жыл бұрын
Wow that El Muerto bit ended on a very defeated note...and I get it