My shampoo bar nearly ruined my hair!

[@boop7313]

I'm a soapmaker and was just explaining the bs of the so called adjustment period & the difference between solid shampoo and shampoo soap to a friend today and then stumbled on your excellent video! This is a great explanation for it. I don't like they way some will blame your previous products and say it's just because of all the "toxins" or "buildup" from previous shampoos that causes that disgusting feeling, lank & manky hair feel on some of us (especially if you have long finer hair!). It has absolutely nothing to do with it! Assuming most people previously used a readily available shampoo, they are made of mostly surfactants so doesn't make sense that that leaves a build up that gets worse the more you use the shampoo soap lol. Surfactants literally remove buildup and dirt. Perhaps over conditioning can cause a build up but it's still not going to happens weeks afterwards. I believe the science, soap of any kind is simply the wrong pH for hair and scalp health and if you want to lift buildup or excess oils then you are going to need a surfactant. There are of course surfactants and surfactants and not all are gentle to the skin either but coco isothionate & cocomidopropyl betaine are among the gentler (while still effective) ones out there so they are a great choice. Also, all the apple cider vinegar rinses in the world won't stop soap scum from building up on the hair shaft when using shampoo soap. A slightly diluted apple cider vinegar rinse is good for rinsing hair if you are using shampoo soaps because it's acidic and soap is more alkaline thgerfor the ACV helps balance it back so your hair feels conditioned and soft. For me, I'll stick with shampoo made with surfactants.

[@Bmoore126]

I'm hoping to start experimenting with making my own shampoo bars. The video you inserted of you walking the dog made me burst out laughing! So glad you finally found something that works for you. Thank you for sharing.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

I have started learning to make soap and was watching videos about making syndet bars (for anyone reading this that doesn't know it's called that because it's SYNthetic DETergent).

[@terrysmith5868]

I have tried so many bar shampoos and my hair looked terrible! They also left a film on my hair, hair was dull and very static clingy. Never again!

[@ThomasAdrianSummersby]

Those were probably soap bars, shampoo bars makes your hair feel even better than regular shampoo, because a lot of them are milder (sulphate free)

[@KateinBlack]

​@@ThomasAdrianSummersbywhy are you so sure? I have tried around 6 shampoo bars from diferent brands and it is the same for me

[@irmaradinson2320]

I used Viori and left my hair horrible. I change to another shampoo bar same results.

[@Xcxc13]

A lot of companies make “shampoo bars” but it’s literally soap. They claim the film is left to detoxify your hair and it’ll take time but tbh it’s so you won’t get a refund. Earthling Co, Ethique & Attitude are so far the best Imo. Earthling is especially great if you have curly/wavy hair

[@StefanGee-m6r]

Have you tried a tallow shampoo bar?

[@GhislaineBeauce]

Thank you for this. I do have a hair soap that I bought several years ago. I loved it, except that because of the limescale in the water, I had to use a vinegar rinse to get all the soap suds out of my hair, and it was too much phaff! I will give solid shampoo another try, if only for travelling. I love the standard shampoo/conditioner combo I'm using now.

[@yohaleya]

This video was so straightforward and informative, thank you so much!

[@ariesmry]

Hair soaps leave a lot of residue on my hair, particularly if I’m at a location that has hard water. I prefer shampoo bars over soaps bc they’re formulated for hair, but if someone is absolutely sold on trying soaps, definitely check how soft or hard your water is. When you have hard water, hair soap will lather beautifully, but it won’t actually cleanse the hair. It can leave soap scum on the hair and it raises the ph, which is why they recommend the acv rinse afterwards. I wish they’d just say that outright instead of creating this detox narrative.

[@MarkfromLodiCA]

look for one with citric acid, which is a chelator (binds to minerals, preventing scum)

[@modkip25]

wtf is soft/hard water 😂

[@5th_cellar]

@@modkip25 I'm assuming from the emoji you assume it's either a new, hippy trend or something they made up. It's neither and you look a bit silly for laughing. Honestly, a two second google search would have told you it's actually a well-known thing, documented in geological surveys, where water in certain areas has a higher concentration of calcium and magnesium picked up along the way to your (general, not you specifically) home. It's the reason distilled water is sold in the store for use in things like humidifiers and fancy coffee machines. Distilled water has had the minerals boiled out of it and won't leave a residue behind the same way hard water does. It's also why soap scum and that weird, chalky white stain on the showerhead happens. IDK, maybe you're unaware of the problem because you live in a soft water area, and have never noticed the extreme difference between washing your hair in hard water versus how shiny and superfine it is after washing in filtered hotel water. Or maybe you've just never questioned it. I, myself, keep a jug of distilled water on hand to use in a final, apple cider vinegar rinse on my hair every time I wash it, in order to remove as much residue as possible. A quick, surprisingly effective way to check, and one I had to do the other day because someone had made off with my distilled water and when I finally found the jug it was nearly empty, and I needed to know if it was still pure or had been refilled with faucet water...taste test. There's a slight, metalic taste to our normal water, and absolutely none to distilled. (And, funnily enough, hard water is also the reason water tastes slightly different in different areas.)

[@pennydreadful5285]

@@modkip25, you must be young to not know what hard water is. Even I know what it is and I live on an island.

[@BeautyBy_Kirsten]

Use the Viori Tea infused shampoo bar its so good. The conditioner bar is good too my hair is so shiny and clean. I'm so thankful i bought two bars so i will be using for awhile hoping for some faster hair growth as i recently cut my hair shorter

[@BriarRose-Dupont]

I really like my viori bars on my (long, fine,straight) hair. I just wish they didn't use palm oil. I keep looking for alternatives, but havent found one that works yet.

[@chimmypark1603]

Awesome video!

[@sjastram]

Thank you for calling out the bs about transition periods with the "hair soaps". If you have hard water, you will get soap buildup on your hair- think soap scum on your tub. Vinegar rinses MIGHT help, but you would have to let it set for a bit.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

@@sjastram yup. If something works, it should work right away, not months from now!

[@melissagallinetti9521]

I am a soap maker yet I still purchase viori brand shampoo bars. I have super long hair and have used their bars for years. I usually oil my hair at least once a month and use herbal, Aretha based shampoo powder to wash it out. Anyway I know it’s scary to use a shampoo bar when you have had bad luck but when you find the right one it is so much better than commercial shampoo.

[@TracyD2]

Also that van is everything

[@atomic_poppy]

Great video! The only shampoo bar that worked for me is the Humby brand.

[@Kathleen-e4p]

If the soap bars dont suit ye stick to what does

[@amalabdurrahman494]

I make my own soap at home and use it on my hair, i use Apple cider vinegar rinse, and my hair never been better!.. Apple cider vinegar adjust ph level of scalp and help detangle hair.. you have to use it if you are using shampoo bars.. For me I'm never going back to commercial shampoos 😊

[@refillsontheroad7511]

I'm really glad they work for you. I did try the ACV rinses as you describe. It just didn't work for my hair. Everyone is different so while I'm glad you've had success, I encounter scores of people in my work for whom washing hair with basic soap just doesn't work.

[@amalabdurrahman494]

@@refillsontheroad7511 you are very right.. everybody's hair is different. When I first started using soap bars I was frustrated! Why does natural soap make my hair tangled?! It has less ingredients: water, sodium hydroxide, and oils. Every shampoo in the market has sodium hydroxide in the ingredients! So why just my soap makes it tangled? I'm still looking for the secret ingredient... ACV is not always on hand I must find a better way.. I found on KZbin real shampoo recipes, which have different ingredients, I must try them, they say results are different:).. there's a soapner called tellervo she makes these recipes on KZbin 😍 If you love DIY, I highly recommend you try making her shampoo bar recipes.. you might like them😊 Soap making is very addicting!!💚😍 Thanks for sharing your experience💚

[@mjoyazz5799]

Thank you for this great easy to understand explanation. I could never understand why some work great for me and others are awful. Turns out it is the solid shampoo I like.

[@daniellabirch2600]

Thanks for this explanation! It explains a lot of the questions we had around our experiences with different bars. I'm about to try Ethique's shampoo bars. Wish me luck!

[@refillsontheroad7511]

What did you think of it? I've heard positive things, though they seem a bit on the expensive side and they come from New Zealand which is a long way to travel when lots of local small businesses are making bars with similar formulations for less.

[@kimtanner4088]

@@refillsontheroad7511 I am experimenting with Ethique and its shipped out of New Jersey. The company was acquired by a PE investor and they keep all their inventory in North America! It costs a bit more but lasts a long time and the results are amazing! Hope this clears up the shipping comment.

[@islandgurl4123]

I tried them and my hair was just nasty afterwards like what she explained how hers was

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

I love shampoo bars. I find them very clarifying, but I buy the ones for greasy hair..because my hair gets disgustingly greasy very quickly. If I find they're drying me out, I use an oil based pre poo and that sorts it out.

[@wearekind2]

A good comparison, they are very different products and ingredients. Soap has a high (alkaline pH) and true solid shampoo is pH adjusted to your scalp and hair.

[@nsaids1923]

This is an excellent video.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

Thank you!

[@jenniferosea]

How did you repair your hair after using the shampoo bars? I feel like my hair is worse now and not sure what to do! I’ve gone back to regular shampoo and conditioner

[@rachellesawyer6523]

I tried a few until I found one I like and it's the most affordable I love it as I use less product and not buying all the plastic bottles

[@anitahall2618]

How do you get your bottles refilled? Ive never heard of that.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

If you Google "zero waste shop near me" or "refill shop near me" you will hopefully find something, though they are not that common yet. There are many in the UK, Canada, and France, but I'm not sure how much they have taken off in other countries.

[@jimrebr]

In the 70’s and 89’s all good Coops or Health Food Stores had big vats of Dr. Bronners Peppermint Castile soap, and you brought your bottle back, clea, and refilled, same with Head shampoo, it was great and we need this back.

[@DeeLytes]

I think they are better on African American hair

[@TracyD2]

I agree with you about the saponified shampoo bars. There is no detox period because of whatever they claim. None of those claims make any scientific sense. I thought a clarifier or chelating shampoo is supposed to do that and the first time it’s used AND everyone that loves the saponified bars says this! The same thing like a parrot 😬😫

[@KateinBlack]

They have usually a higher pH and especially with hard water you will have a build-up

[@GrowingGoodHair]

I love how you said shea butter

[@sadananlorpenpop579]

Do you also try the solid shampoo ??

[@mariagibson7204]

Thank you. 😊

[@AmesAndGeo]

people with straight or wavy hair shouldn't be using anything like coconut oil - these types of oils are way too heavy and will create tremendous buildup.

[@Kathleen-e4p]

Hair soap several years ??????

[@beebee9803]

I use Aussie Moist liquid shampoo, or Suave Rosemary + Mint liquid shampoo. My hair is always soft, clean and shiny. Not gonna spe d a fortune on "shampoo bars," they're just advertising BS.

[@mariab9702]

I used one from Tangie the rosemary and mint one and sheesh maybe its not for me but i have thin oil scalp hair. And jesus that striped my hair dry and when i ran my finger through my hair it felt like straw. Idk but that shit i will never use.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

I just had a look at the ingredients and I'm not surprised. Coconut oil is the first ingredient and it is known for being very drying! I looked up what sodium coco sulfate is and just the fact it says sulfate is a red flag 🚩! It's a surfactant known for its "cleansing" abilities. In the soap making world, cleansing = stripping all the oils away. For them to be making and marketing a bar like this for hair is shocking. The only market I would sell a bar like that to is painter decorators or builders to get their hands clean after a long day at work.

[@OliviaSanchez-ie1if]

I used the Tangie one too and found that it left so much buildup on my oily hair. There’s a brand called Sudz Cauldron that has one for oily hair and it’s the first shampoo that has allowed me to go DAYS without washing.

[@abdullahimam2318]

I agree…

[@Lulu-xl5cm]

I still don't understand why plastic is so evil. I love my plastic straws and go through 3 a day. If you just throw plastic in the plastic recycle bin, it's no issue? I think? I just don't understand the current hate on plastic these days.

[@refillsontheroad7511]

I guess the world looks different to a rat.

[@vinimes3]

Most plastics don’t get recycled. It’s best to use reusable items for money saving and sustainable purposes

[@vinimes3]

If u like plastic straws, a better alternative would be metal or reusable bendy plastic straws

[@ashweeb33]

Marine life suffers because of plastics. Micro plastics get into our water ways and into our bodies. That alone should be enough, claiming to be ignorant is just lazy, Google is free

[@heidimeigs5192]

Recycling is not globally practiced, so plastic….which does not break down …..ends up being just trash. It is in our planet’s waters where it kills or harms many marine animals. As mentioned before, it’s not biodegradable. It is not a material than can renew itself, like trees. And as is being found out scientifically, plastics are being found in our foods and in our bodies…..where it shouldn’t be found.