"My Spishtar can't loop ?" A short tutorial on skill ordering

[@PlushieMistress]

I feel like i have to explain something here, kama is a better arts looper imo because : 1. The arts up is independent of the battery so you don’t have to consider losing out on refund if you save the battery on one. 2. Her arts up is a guaranteed 30% rather than a RNG 20% 3. If you are really nitpicking kama has a shorter NP animation time That’s it, im not saying overall utility.

[@PlushieMistress]

They are side-grades 99% of the time, I made a video when summer kama dropped and that was also my conclusion.

[@therpgloverreviews7399]

Only issue is that some enemies can resist charm

[@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904]

@@therpgloverreviews7399 and her damage depends on the debuffs, so instead of the RNG Arts buff from Spishtar, we got RNG Damage amp from Kama.

[@therpgloverreviews7399]

@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 and more importantly. She isn't rin

[@sathariel3231]

Pretty sure I saw some calculation she does more dmg then Ishtar assuming everything goes well for her but Ishtar is still better wave 2

[@black.lockhart]

Dudes saves 2 years of saint quartz for a single character > proceeds to get them in the gacha > dont know to farm with them 💀

[@xStanyyx]

Cant be mad that some people dont get how the hole NP level, fou, CE looping requirement shit really works and what is needed. I dont blame anyone getting confused

[@usernotfound1191]

@@xStanyyx yeah i agree somethings seem obvious for people who already in the know but it doesn't mean it really is even though it may seem that way

[@Mana-qp4uw]

How many sq did you have after 2 years of saving?

[@shadowstrider2690]

@@Mana-qp4uw funny thing is I had about 600 sq to summon but only used 180 for a copy along side 28 tickets.

[@sam.nm89]

or even worse you didn't get it 🙃

[@aluwite]

This video was extremely helpful, the only issue is the fact that I have neither Castoria nor Spishtar, despite spending roughly 700 SQ on both Edit: finally, after 2 long years, i have them both

[@ivanbluecool]

Both come back next year. Also you get 10 tickets soon so you have one more chance at castoria. Good luck.

[@fujineetomori]

700 total, or 700 each?

[@PlushieMistress]

Oof srry man

[@sathariel3231]

Sadge

[@2ndThought_]

F :pensive:

[@Kyle81290]

Should have included in the video "Assuming no append skills unlocked" to avoid the current spam of "yeah, but I use both Castoria S2 with append unlocked"

[@PlushieMistress]

Yeah i did assume no append bc for NP1s its not as easy you need bond 6

[@DarthSid98]

@@PlushieMistress while you’re waiting for Space Ishtar to reach bond 6 you can use a mystic code with 10% charge on turn 1

[@logpulsar]

@@DarthSid98 but don't you need the np generation rate buff from fragment of year 2004?

[@DarthSid98]

@@logpulsar I tried it myself on various nodes including all assassin/zerker ones with NP1 Space Ishtar and so far I’ve not needed 2k4

[@keinkanal7382]

@@logpulsar with the append skill unlocked you don't cause she'll always refund at least 70%

[@chaosbean3211]

About an hour before anni maintenance I realized I didn't actually have Castoria's mats On the bright side, I've found out just how easily Spishtar can loop, even with a scuffed castoria

[@alostghost7899]

Use da new cubes they gave us for some mats cause I had to do the same assuming you haven’t used them already

[@ObiC]

Just use the white crystal meth bro

[@keanareeves]

Yes pure prisms for the win!

[@herschburdon9448]

Good thing they gave us coom cubes early

[@KasumiRINA]

I used cubes after looking up future events and lotto, seeing nothing gives pages or seeds.

[@henrychen2144]

since you have append 2 on spish, I personally feel like using both castoria's s2 and s3 on first wave, and save s1 for 2nd and 3rd wave, this lets me farm zerks with arctic and superbg

[@jaredatanacio7375]

Yes! This order basically frees you from 2k4

[@PlushieMistress]

Yeah but im assuming no append for most so i pretend it doesn’t exist in this vide

[@henrychen2144]

@@PlushieMistress Its just nice to make note of

[@SamAventoIRL]

That's correct and literally how I've been farming for the past 3 days lol. My SI already maxed 2nd append so it'll be a lot easier for this method

[@henrychen2144]

@@SamAventoIRL you don't even need max append for this method, just level 1

[@wellno7377]

Meanwhile me using double castoria, tamamo(or waver) and plugsuit

[@EMlYA_SHlR0U]

Bro same lol

[@BlindedMan]

Doing this just to level up plugsuit

[@gon5392]

I’m doing it with Nero bride instead of tamamo

[@mvshenhon8966]

Amen brother

[@stainxyz3373]

The true way to loop

[@lilyfia0]

With append 2 unlocked, you can farm with spistar without using mystic code. Just use castoria's 1st skill at 2nd and 3rd turn, don't use it at first turn. Ofc, we can use any CEs with this strategy -------------------- For calculation: Turn 1 10% (from append) or higher + 50% from spistar 3rd skill + 40% from each castoria 2nd skill And for each turn, NP bar will refund 75~100% depends on class and enemy units.

[@deepprakashamin9129]

Max grailed, 2k fous, NP 1 Spishtar with 2nd append maxed here. My order is -> Spishtar S1S3, Both castoria S2S3-> wave 1 clear, 1 castoria S1-> wave 2 clear, Castoria S1, spishtar s2-> Wave 3 clear. With this setup she loops any my tested berserker nodes with non-MLB black grail. Also notice that no command code needed for this. Edit: Also FGA consistent.

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

Same skill order same NP lvls and gold fous , I slap my royal icing CE which is like lvl 84 and let me do higher dmg than a non MLB Black Grail for some reason . I mean I'm just casually testing them out but it's probably cuz of stats more than the buffs and I just want to throw this here .

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

I also just used the NP dmg calculator and got the same thing

[@Hannibal13]

@@thereseavanastrea4662 how much more damage?

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

@@Hannibal13 well for my S.Ishtar with my Arctic MC at lvl 5 the average with Royal Icing is around 196327 on wave 3 , and 189182 for non MLB Black grail . Not much but royal icing also helps with refund so I say go with it if you leveled it up enough since mine is lvl 84 if not you can stick with Black grail and if it's MLBed no need for any other CE to loop S.Ishtar

[@TheNezperdian]

@@thereseavanastrea4662 I totally forgot about Royal Icing. Thanks for the tip. I was testing Chen Gong lvl 100, 20% append, double Castoria, A Fragment of 2004 MC, and non-MLB Black Grail, and it was getting 68% refund on the Egg of Truth first round's stage. Now I get like 73% refund with lvl 15 Royal Icing, so I can put Tamamo on the 4th slot and then use the remaining Castoria S1.

[@ivanbluecool]

Did people not know this? Direwolf did a video on this with many units with ways to loop by using an order or mc to help with extra charge. Guess that's why some arts loopers get undervalued. People just suck at skill placement. Brought to you by the space Ishtar loop fan club.

[@jaredatanacio7375]

Just use kama lol

[@ivanbluecool]

@@jaredatanacio7375 I refuse and will never roll for something useless to me. Np 5 space Ishtar already and using fou Sherlock ce on her just to flex on people.

[@gwagner1380]

Sometimes people just want to see big numbers and go brain dead then when they don't loop are like "why if Castoria is meant to be OP!?!" and the likes. Some people just don't know propper team building, how to use skills in an optimal order or fashion or just simply, don't know how important even CEs are. Like no joke in another youtuber comment section there was this dude that was bashing Castoria saying how bad she was because he couldn't loop, after SEVERAL messages we found out his mistake was that he didn't know berserkers and assassins give less refund than other classes and that he was just using everything in one go instead of using skills in a better order.

[@ivanbluecool]

@@gwagner1380 that'd why casuals should not be allowed to voice an opinion. That's also probably why skama fans thought she was better than space Ishtar when that's further from the actual truth on how both work. I mean if you use a unit badly that's on the player.

[@fate8718]

Tbf a lot of mfs complaining about it dont look up communities on this shit But like for Spish You literally can use that Plugsuit you never take off Like just pop the damage steroid on turn two to garuntee two overkill hits This isnt Quick looping where Spishtar is actually autistic Nor is it Buster looping which is just autistic

[@MKLettis]

Good tutorial. Just got Castoria in NA and been having a blast using double Castoria with my Spishtar. This is def something to keep in mind.

[@rexarc2477]

I want castoria so bad :'(.... I hve spishtar....but right now im pairing her with merlin...

[@luis99tv]

It's the same problem with Okita Summer. A lot of people says she's bad because of the chance of debuff/stun. But I have been using her for a while year, and she's indeed good. You just need to remember to only use her all of skills on the same turn you launch her NP. If she got stunned, the 2nd skill will protect her with evade.

[@camelotassemble]

That is true for other servants as well, timing is everything for a lot of servants.

[@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead]

Still can use similar servants with same kits without the debuffs, if she isn't special except for the class, then she isn't at all

[@hienable6933]

Actually there's a way to neutralize her stun during farming Kill all the enemies in that wave.

[@LCRavagnani]

Using the 20% battery with “NP Gain” and the “Arts UP” from each Castoria in the first turn is a better option that using a the full 50% battery from each one on different turns, especially if you have Append on SpIshtar. That’s how I’ve been looping my NP1 SpIshtar with a full Berserker Node.

[@queenkato1440]

i think he wanted to show the order of skills disregarding the append skill he already unlocked. so it's like u just want to disregard the append on this video.

[@thexenosaiyan]

He disregards Append on this

[@manleyfgc7981]

​@@queenkato1440you didn't even watch the video or read the comment you're replying to correctly lol

[@luchaldeas3186]

I use this tactic with Musashi when 2nd battle only has 2 enemies. Another way to effectively loop is to give the looper as much damage as possible. I don't have the mystic code that gives NP gain but I do have a Tamamo with lvl 10 1st and 3rd skills. I basically just give Musashi all the buffs from herself and from the 2 Castorias then switch out 1 Castoria with Tamamo to buff her more. Looping becomes easier because Musashi overkills or overgauges faster. Without Tamamo, Musashi only gets up to 96-98% with just the two Castorias even with Musashi's 2nd skill maxed out.

[@rejoicingfakepriest201]

I already did like 200+ runs with Spishtar and Double Castoria. I just go and press buttons like a machine for all these runs. Effective, but... I feel brain rot...

[@PureLunari]

Good thing it's not Scarlet Rot! Could've been worse.

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

That's what looping does to a person

[@darkrider2196]

Or you can just use FGA

[@fepasc]

Same but at least now I see a different np after 2 years of Dantes

[@xavierfenollarruiz9448]

怖い童話続き待ってました！ www.youtubemmm.com/watch?v=k7QCQpQ5EkD 子やぎたちの話の結末は赤ずきんのお話の結末かな？と思ったのですが、、、😥😥😥

[@snailthelostcow63]

Remember to always experimenting with your servants. The videos you saw on youtube is just one of many possibilites you can try Brought to you by someone who already did 3 turn farm in Chaldea Gate pre-Merlin and only using support Waver

[@keinkanal7382]

How many kscopes? Cause imma be honest, those make it massively easier to farm dailies

[@snailthelostcow63]

@@keinkanal7382 none. Just mlb Sakura for arash. I got so used to farm with no kscope that I never used them when I finally managed to get one, lol

[@realdealimpostor2046]

Sieg: i have no such weakness

[@BakaGrappler]

Fell for the clickbait, stayed for the music.

[@blowscript]

Worm lovers belong with worms, in the dirt

[@verzaccii]

i did find out about this after intensive hours of farming and skill ordering thank you very much

[@guilhermerocha4527]

the way I've been doing it, is with a 50% bat CE. her second append opened, not leveled at all, and using both castorias S2 and S3 on turn 1, and leaving their S1 to use in case she doesn't get enough refund, most of the times I don't even need to use spishtar's S3 at all

[@Heresy00]

Same for me with sushi, except that I end up being forced to use a castoria’s S1 on T2 and T3 on berserker nodes

[@K0DA._.]

Wouldn’t it be better to run a CE with stronger effects and no starting battery, instead using Spishtar’s S3? That way, you could run an event ce, Chaldea Lunchtime, Mona Lisa, or something else that provides more useful effects when the 50% starting charge isn’t necessary?

[@guilhermerocha4527]

@@K0DA._. thats a good idea, didn't think of using her battery like that, sounds like it could work pretty well too

[@K0DA._.]

@@guilhermerocha4527 yeah, not to mention you’ll get a 20% arts up out of it 4/5 times, which will only help damage and refund

[@otisthecow7953]

I managed to get tamamo a while back so I just start with her using S1 and S3, plug suit in a friend's castoria, and then use all the skills on my spishtar (or any other arts looper for that matter). Always 100% refund, and if people are nitpicky about how that wastes time on the run, better that than not getting the arts buff on spishtar's S3 and losing out on an np on turn 3 and the final wave. Just plug suiting anyone that has a targeted or full party arts buff like caster gil or paracelsus guarantees the run, but this is just my own observation.

[@KirihaYuuta]

Just max Append skill 2.

[@gabsterrivera5674]

In my experience with Spishtar-looping with Double Castoria (specially if you have Second Append skill), I normally use Spishtar's 3rd first, then combo'd with both Castorias' 2nd-3rd skill. Doesn't matter much if the Spishtar battery misses the Arts buff or you bring the wrong CE or Mystic Code dress, this strat basically ensures that on the next waves you'll still have the option for both Castorias' 1st skill for the missing 20 or less charge (that is, if you're facing waves in 3/3/x format). Edit: I hope Plushie sees this so people can try this too for more successful runs Another Edit: BTW, this strat only works if you have her Second Append ONLY (even at Level 1, you just need the extra 10% charge from the start) And Another Edit: To people who'd wonder if she needs Plugsuit Dress, of course this also ensures that your Spishtar will loop, you just need atleast an extra 10% starting charge and a normal wave format (3/3/x) to successfully loop.

[@sedovt]

This is why I tell my NA-only friends to level their Mana Loading first if they're split between Appends or lvl 102. With a 50% CE or 50% battery on the DPS, plus lvl 1 Mana Loading, you can activate both Castoria's 2nd and 3rd skill at T1, and save the 1st skill for later. The only problem with this is just weaker damage, but assuming you brought a class advantage DPS, or good neutral DPSes like Spishtar or Kama, the Arts buff should be enough to beat Wave 1 on most nodes. But yeah, assuming they don't have Mana Loading or can't have 60% NP at the start, I usually recommend just use the charges you need from Castoria (e.g. if you only need 50%, use all the buffs from 1 Castoria and Arts from the other Castoria; if you only need 30% use 1 first skill; if you only need 20% use the second skill). But well, this isn't really a problem if you have Oberon xD

[@manwithabasicprofilepic]

I always just saved Castoria’s charisma buffs for the second and third wave. Its not like Spishtar needs them immediately.

[@kintoki9605]

Meanwhile my np 5 sieg with black grail, "let's go brrrrrr"

[@helenfotopoulou5125]

My Castoria doesn't have maxed out skills left (and I don't have Spishtar, lol), so I use a CE with battery and Paracelsus on top of the double Castoria thing. You can farm irregular waves EASILY. It's just a matter of experimenting a bit and figuring out what works.

[@Null_p0]

A big problem with people trying to loop is that they try to slap black grail on everything even when it's not necessary for damage. It ends up being detrimental due to lacking ease of use & not being able to just 1 turn skills and 3x NP. As opposed to just using something like Smiling Face or even a generic arts up CE. Art of the Poisonous Snake is a highly underrated CE for arts looping, arguably better, easier to obtain, less cost, and more consistency than mlb black grail.

[@litlsteps8486]

true. or Painting Summer also good for the job.

[@Ty_Jac]

agree with it being underrated and whatnot except it being better or more consistent. black grail makes it easier to not only kill what ur atking but gives better overkill/gauge which is needed when considering looping nodes that have waves with high hp enemies that are harder to kill which is frequent on the most efficient event nodes and lotto nodes. Another thing some ppl don't know is that specific class enemies give low or high np refund when atking. Specifically berserkers and assassin enemies give the lowest np refund meaning harder to loop while caster enemies give the most. BG is also better since it stacks better than an extra 40% arts on top of 100% rather than stacking np buff that stack multiplicative to atk and card type buff dealing far more dmg. BG is just a far more consistent option in most cases unless you don't have a maxed castoria. But ye Black Grail is definitely isn't ez to get let along mlb but in the case you do have it mlb and lvl 100 it carries insane consistency.

[@SpaceAndyx]

I use Miyu CE or Orangette for their NP gain, the latter has bonus NP damage making it even more effective.

[@GeorgeMonet]

1:25 As a SpIshtaran I felt that pain.

[@Karuisdead]

"use Kama" Me who spent every penny and cent trying to get her but didn't get her: "ok..."

[@silpabananaking]

That is why I have a tamamo in the back for extra gen. Even now she can’t escape the loops.

[@sergeantassassin3425]

Should be noted an easy way to get the ball rolling is by having a CE equipped that provides starting charge (MLB Demonic Bodhisattva is a good one, 60% is the perfect number with the remaining 40% filled by both Castoria's S2's, which also boosts NP gain as well). Stacking both Castoria's S3's out the gate is obviously required, but that leaves you with the 50% battery from Spishtar, and the two 30% batteries from your Castorias. Another alternative (the one I use) is a MLB Kaleidoscope. Popping both Castoria's S3's and Spishtar's S1, use NP. Refund is usually enough for me to swing to W2 with 50% or more. Drop one Castoria's S1 and S2, NP again. Usually end up with around 60/70% refund from that, swing to W3. Sometimes I can get away with only dropping my other Castoria's S1 for the remaining 30%, leaving me with her last S2 and Spishtar's 50% battery left for harder challenges that require a 4th space beam to the face, as the refund you get from the 3rd NP is very rarely below 30% and usually lets you loop for a 4th time.

[@MrPimentel12]

If you have the append skill up, just use both castorias skill 2 and 3 on turn 1 + space ishtar's battery. Then you can pretty much turn off your brain and she will still loop easily.

[@ramu6403]

Happens with musashi too. I just use a mystic code with gauge and it usually gets me out of any sticky situations.

[@grildrago]

Skadi system taught me well how to loop so this is ez

[@Avnich-Rndom]

"Oh no, i just dropped this supercool picture of my np5 zerker mushashi, gosh im so clumsy 😏" -anya probably

[@trolltelos2266]

Ironically I guess this is where getting a 2nd copy of Spishtar helps from the GSSR. At NP2 she loops with the help of the avenger 3 or 4% NP after turn hitting her around 100-103% NP wave 2. Wave 3 NP is always consistent.

[@Chronopie]

With SpIshtar's S2 unlocked (10%), her own battery (50%) and both Castoria's S2 (40%), it leaves you with two S1 Charismas and 30% batteries for the second and third waves. and you only need NP1 and Bond 6, so it's not impossible to have at this point. Failing that though, Mages or Summer Arts MCs can make up the charge.

[@alexandreluna2276]

Heck even I managed to loop Spishtar on NP1 and it was pre-castoria.

[@J-rome]

Now that I actually have Black Grail I can finally ditch the 50%Np batteries.

[@youknow4267]

I never thought this was possible 💀

[@pomking2]

seems like some people really took the "BRAIN OFF" meme too seriously

[@yuukiterumi2061]

Dude at this rate she’s me default when I keep running into mixed nodes

[@aiinam6791]

Everytime I see SpIshtar miss her skill, I get irrationally angry even though I'm not the one playing

[@camelotassemble]

Good thing I can use both Space Ishtar and Berserker Musashi at NP2 with my Castoria.

[@totozhu4543]

Simple answer, just have a back up np charge/np gain up/ arts up buffer you can switch in. Like waver, Nero, or for damage, Tamamo

[@sadshifter]

It's OK Chen Gong. Throw castoria whenever u want.

[@thedonatello1621]

Yeah, i cared about the using skills in one order Until my beloved Nero Bride appeard

[@yphoenix5957]

This video has been rather relieving for me, to see someone else use the same sequence of buffing with Castoria, I mean... you hear of it (2 Castoria+ Spishtar) , but no one really demonstrates...

[@johnmarike2911]

Thank you for this PSA. I was chalking it up to having her at Lv 90 NP 1 until I realized the hard way that I can just break up the charges and she can still farm 90+ in 3-4 turns...

[@ouroboros0000]

My Space Ishtar loop is usually 100% Kalescope, double Skadi and Nero Bride.

[@iamthestormthatisapproaching69]

The way I use double castoria is by equiping a good ce with added np gain. I prefer to use mlb painting summer since it comes with the essentials for arts setups. And then I come equipped with a plugsuit and a backup support. With paracelsus's buff on his third skill, it makes it so you have get np gain for three turns

[@remainer]

im newer, what type of ce's are good on castoria or np battery servants?

[@Blackvez20]

@@remainer Castoria doesn't need a good CE to be honest. But for me I would use an Overcharge CE. If you don't know what means is it adds another 100% thats 200% when you fire her NP means your invulnerable for two attacks unlike the usual one attack of invulnerability. The CE I use is One who wishes Salvation. thats lets me fire my Castoria's NP at 300% very useful especially at boss battle. You'll never use her NP when you're farming anyway. For NP batteries servants I recommend something like The Black Grail. What it does is increases the damage of your servant's NP note that more NP damage more NP refund.

[@sahilm483]

@@remainer Demonic Boddhi and The one who desires salvation

[@remainer]

@@Blackvez20 appreciate it

[@SpaceAndyx]

Painting summer has mixed stats which kills it. I prefer the Miyu CE and Orangette depending on which one works better. In the future we get "Like a Lady" which gives 20% npgain with 50 charge. And "Ocean Flyer" which gives 15% np and arts dmg and 50 charge. Both all atk.

[@june853]

水着Kama’s voice sounds like bb’s Although they are the same voice actor, the assassin Kama’s voice is slightly different

[@muchluck7981]

i mainly run Summer Musashi for most of my castoria looping needs. no need to think as much about battery since summer musashi herself has a 50% np gain buff. if i need a batter, i can either use a waver or a mystic code for the job

[@KevinM491]

I have not once had this problem because I didn’t know burning all her abilities was the strat. Doesn’t matter who my attacker is I always use just enough skills to get to the next wave

[@Pawc4]

Just been farming the ember extremes for the most part. Been using Painting Summer (10% NP DMG, 10 NP Gain, 50% starting NP) on Spishtar, turn 1 I do both Castorias skill 2 and 3, Spishtar skills 1 and 3, then I NP. On turn 2 I use one of the Castoria's skill 1 then NP, and on the 3rd turn, I do other Castoria skill 1, Spishtar Skill 2, Artic Mystic Code skill 2, then NP. Been using the artic Mystic Code (only one left to level atm, and want to cap everything off), and has no problem with the first two waves (first is ~30k hp each, 2nd is ~40k hp each). The last wave has a single enemy with ~130k hp, and if the NP doesn't kill, it's normally in range where the other attacks will finish it off. This is with all the enemies being neutral normally. Of course if you're still lacking in damage, with Castoria having a tirple art deck + an attack dmg up NP, you'll likely be able to get at least one Castoria NP charged by turn 3 to help things out.

[@Kruzeda]

Head empty, using Spishtar with Painting Summer CE and double Castoria and only pressing blue buttons

[@ToastCrust]

just because I'm an MC leveling freak, during 1st year of castoria before appends, I mostly just used formalcraft or mark on a smiling face or the SR 3T arts up kuzuki CE ofc one of the np gen/arts 50% CE work too but imo it doesn't feel as cool unless you loop with 0% starting charge lol

[@arahaitham123]

Or use Lolinci lol. I find her to be fun to be experiment with. She doesn't have fancy big battery, but has guarantee 40% loop regardless of enemies class or how many they are. She is really useable even against 1-1-x node.

[@bSteve929]

If damage isn't an issue I generally skip the castoria charismas and use them on t2 and t3 to top off spishtar (only works with append 2)

[@UltimatelyProficient]

Exactly how I do it with my NP2 Spishtar, pop both Castorias S2 and one of their S3s alongside STs S3/S1 T1. T2 pop a charisma and the other S3 to top off. Then T3 pop the last one and STs S2 for extra np damage.

[@TheMayoching]

Another alternative that doesn't require any Mystic code buffs for farming, tested on all berserkers node as well: Info about my comp: No CE equipped, my Spishtar is NP2, and 2nd append unlocked for at least the 10%, also 10/10/10 across the board. 1. Spishtar S1 & S3, Both Castoria's S2 & S3 -> NP. 2. The NP refunded over 80% for me (I had Spishtar S3 Arts) , so S1 from one Castoria -> NP. 3. 80% again, the other Castoria S1 & Spishtar S2 (Arts) for NP damage -> NP. This gives Spishtar NP gain buffs from both Castoria's and hence not needing the Frag2004 NP gain buff. Tests may vary depending on if Spishtar NP1 (mine is NP2), if you get Spishtar Arts buff from S3, and if enemies have more HP (I tested on Berserkers training grounds Expert). I think the S3 arts buff was not relative for me (at NP2), since I refunded well over 70%, S1 from Castoria gives 30% so all the % needed was 70%.

[@disaster1919]

This is why I use back up waver in case this happen

[@jimmyv5494]

I can’t believe we still have to wait a year for summer Kama :(

[@PlatinumKrown]

I've been using Spishtar (50%), my castoria (20% and arts up), my nero bride (30%) for turn 1, and then using castoria s1 for turn 2 and either tag in more battery for turn 3 or using a mystic code with battery. I like this style because it doesn't require support (such as story missions) but doesn't loop quite as well as 2 castoria + Bride combo (or 2 cas and tamomo for really big damage).

[@supercheesehero]

My Salieri system thanks you.

[@inhtran6716]

You can just bring the 20% np Mystic code to charge on the final wave. Her 3rd skill can be use on the 2nd wave to provide some art buff.

[@sonkaizuz8209]

SI vs Cụ Rèn ai ngon hơn a

[@Vapor817]

Another strat I found with Castoria's skill order was to skill 2 and 3 for both on spishtar then use 50% charge to boost to 100% with append charge. this allows for full usage of the np refund buff on turns 1 and 2 while still allowing for 30% charge on 2 separate occasions. the end result is that you don't necessarily need any particular mystic code for looping purposes, whereas the setup in this vid still requires 2004 mystic code or mage association's 20% charge.

[@Unlimited-D-Works]

This is why 4 stars like percival are better. Don’t know why he isn’t s tier on tier lists

[@Tale77777]

What’s worked the best for me with Summer Kama on JP and now Space Ishtar on NA is both Castorias’ S2 and S3 + 50% battery with mana append skill. Even if you only have it at level 1 it’s a perfect 100%, and you have both Castoria S1s to use on wave 2/3 to account for missing NP gain, but it doesn’t happen very often unless you’re against Zerks and miss Spishtar’s arts up

[@melusine6]

"Or just use Kama" Naah, Spishtar>Kama. Go and argue with a wall

[@ieatcrayons6389]

the way he showed kama's skill order is also something you can do with spishtar too lmao no point proven

[@melusine6]

@@ieatcrayons6389 exactly, you can do the exact same thing with Spishtar. Bro is trying to start a war💀

[@ivanbluecool]

@@melusine6 funny part is plushie made a video a year ago showing the flaws and positives of both units and how similar they are making the np gain different almost never a problem. Now he went backwards in brain iq doing this video but it feels more like a bash on casuals

[@melusine6]

@@ivanbluecool at the end of the day it all comes down to: Do you prefer Rin or Sakura? You choose your poison

[@ivanbluecool]

@@melusine6 funny enough he said that too. Just pick a favorite as units at the top are interchangeable as they are at the top already.

[@zero20ab]

Figured out this after 1 week of Castoira loop Testing. Works even better with a level 10 append Mana loading. 20%+50%+(2x20% S2 Castoria) (assumes high NP level where dmg is rarely a problem).

[@jaltersimp9639]

both S2 and S3 on castoria and all 3 skills on S. Ishtar are all you need to clear wave 1. Since your Ishtar has 10% already

[@Cloud5210]

I was debating between getting extra levels for s.ishtar on the rerun or go for kama, the ending made it clear hahaha

[@lml891]

Idk why I thought he was gonna put Kama Assasin as a looper xd

[@id10terror15]

Or, hear me out here, I could just use my Da Vinci Rider for zerks.

[@christianvannucci6455]

If you have Mana append at at least lvl 1, one thing I like to do us use SPishtar S3 and both Castorias' S2. That way, you get 30% of leeway on all turns

[@acewingman372]

Me having eresh really helps with looping. I just use blessings of kur and swap out for castoria

[@jhonnhey454]

Right now im using Arts of Poisonous Snake 4* CE for my Spishtar NP1 with Double Castoria so far. No problem looping 1st and 2nd turn well if in 3rd turn fall short in NP Battery im gonna use her skill

[@rikkucrowe]

I didn't know people were having trouble looping spishtar I just do it with castoria waver

[@ianchristfuentes2386]

me who has a np1 spishtar and non mlb black grail , im just using plug suit and waver on last wave i dont mind many clickings if its for efficientsy and effectiveness to all classes thats all matters to me

[@bodbyss]

I just solve the issue with a plugsuit, which means another support which means more damage. But I guess this is good too. Thanks for showing me how to do it with fewer clicks and more reliability. Still less damage, though : P

[@Prozitive]

Sometime if damage is enough already, you don't need to equip black grail just starter 50 NP is enough, better yet if it was Hokusai free CE from summer.

[@esdeathchan4354]

This is what im literally doing when using spishtar

[@Silby13]

Musashi has the opposite problem…she gets too much NP back from looping lol. Have yet to even use Castoria’s S1 for farming

[@PastaAivo]

The numbers now on Ishtar, especially with Black Grail, are ridiculous.

[@000NULL]

Jokes on me because I use summer musashi and use an NP gain Arts + CE instead of black grail.

[@wilt3051]

Damn i didnt know that I guess Summer Musashi and Da Vinci Lily r truly the All skills Turn 1 brajndead arts farmers

[@thethird_j1912]

I use paracelsus for consistency no matter what I’m farming

[@fegoracedia6080]

I use Summer Musashi and 2 castoria, for Castoria's np charge i just apply it to herself and let Musashi get the NP gain instead to loop

[@wailungcheung7019]

the double miss on s3 tho XD

[@those65]

Man I can't wait until summer Kama comes to NA

[@farhanghazi1510]

Or slip in paracelsus for 50% np gain & 20% arts up.

[@megaman874]

I just use my Tamamo along with double Castoria, her arts up and np dmg up ensures I always have enough refound even against Berserkers

[@brycanfly]

honestly I just plug suit my Reins in for another 50% battery.

[@kevingraham4736]

personally i use T1 both castoria S2+3 on S Ishtar, S Ishtar s1+3 T2 castoria s1 T3 other castoria s1 +S Ishtar S2 no problems on pretty much anything. long as its 3 targets wave 1 and 2. 2 target waves its more hit n miss dont have append? use tropical summer or mage asociation for starting NP ( or any other mystic code that gives 10% cb i may be forgeting)

[@ajabacan1886]

if im fighting berserkers only, i use schehe with demonic sun ce. then just s2 and s3 both on altria. after that, s1 on turn 2 then, s1 on another for turn 3. edit: i dont use black grail on berserkers since they were squishy.

[@thecloakedschemer1897]

Meanwhile my obstacle is that she's NP1, incredibly painful, hopefully I can get her NP2 on the rerun.

[@Don_Momoringo]

my brother 🤝

[@ronaldomendoza7578]

Bro i couldn't even get np1 😭

[@gama103]

Same :c To fix it i instead use Melt Lancer to farm Berserker nodes and Spishtar to farm Saber and/or other nodes

[@gilgamesh1784]

I got my 6th copy of her from gssr….. I wish I could give her to you

[@zydanelordgrim3568]

dat I felt bad getting her np2 10 ticket.

[@legendcharizard1476]

Ah yes. If all else fails, go with Nugget

[@tribopower]

I really need the append np for my sushi... I guess I could just plug suit at the end of the day and problem solved... but that's such an hassle