My Stepdaughter Thinks She’s a Fox (I’m Not Okay With It)

My Stepdaughter Thinks She’s a Fox (I’m Not Okay With It)
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[@dominicbowers6628]

"when you give a child a phone, you're not giving them access to the world. You're giving the world access to them" that was an incredible statement

[@sonofhibbs4425]

Should be a warning label on all devices.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

If you aren’t investing in your kids (be it time attention whatever) there is someone out there who might 🥲

[@dominicbowers6628]

@@alwaysyouramanda chills

[@mssophiad03]

Well said and not everyone has good intentions with that child sadly.

[@ihateallyall]

it’s so true. I grew up when all this started. I am 23 now, and wish I NEVER did. I was given access to social media full time since I was 13-14. I’m seeing this “therian” stuff of kids on youtube all the time and i’m constantly reporting them. it’s disturbing. all of this, and it’s getting much worse. when I was growing up people didn’t think they were animals, they thems, its/demonselves… this sex and identity crisis in children because of social media and public school is baffling and really disturbing and I cannot believe more people aren’t seeing this. I really hope this show helps someone and prevents a parent from making these mistakes

[@CarolinaS7]

If she identifies as a fox, she doesn’t need a phone-Foxes definitely don’t have those.

[@Nocerre23]

😂

[@lindalund9621]

My granddaughter also was a fox… I said that ok the next village idiot has reportet for duty

[@deec3561]

😆😆😆

[@hayaq9991]

Lord have mercy 😂

[@kimberlyphillips296]

Yep no thumbs!

[@bethany45101]

Telling kids no is ok. It’s often the only appropriate response.

[@Mary-sf8cy]

It's essential, it's NECESSARY

[@rosechoix]

And - it's a complete sentence!

[@marjorienitschk7193]

It's hard when she's the stepmom and probably doesn't have much say in disciplining her!!

[@zorabw8948]

I completely agree with you. Today many parents bend over backwards to their children and put up with everything, and then they wonder if the outcome is a fox. The world has gone insane.

[@anitagoodman4657]

This is the most intelligent comment I've seen on this whole video, it's really good to remind people to take a step back and analyze the best possible response that can achieve your ultimate goal

[@flawedexistence]

As a former Unprotected Child who experienced a horrific childhood: PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN. KEEP THEM SAFE.

[@Joel-pg4yi]

Don't. As I'm former unprotected child as well I wished I was never born but I have to suffer this hell.

[@flawedexistence]

@@Joel-pg4yi I am so sorry. Wishing you peace.

[@moje_spojrzenie]

her husband agrees to this and sacrifices the second daughter so as not to lose contact with the first one. Weak man. Introduce your rules at home. Protect your daughter

[@Ayeteeemm]

Yes and that includes telling your child that they cannot possibly be a fox and that they need to not lie. Not only to others but not to themselves either

[@people3865]

​@@moje_spojrzenieHe isn't weak, he's lost.

[@llehsir]

I’d like to identify as wealthy and non tax paying. 😂

[@NinjaKiwi12058]

Dave Ramsey has entered the chat. 😂

[@crow_feather]

Hey! Me too! Sadly, though, my bank account says otherwise when it comes to the wealthy part, and the government tends to get mighty pissy with me if I try to identify as non-tax paying! Damnit! If this girl can identify as a fox, why can't I identify as wealthy and non-tax paying?! It's not fair! 😭🤣

[@Veracityseeker7]

Amen

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

Become a politician

[@agnessnow4806]

So Royality then?

[@Woman_On_The_Moon]

Omg....I wasn't ready for 13 year old fox girl and her giraffe sister on my Delony bingo card.

[@everybodyfitnessinjax]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@carolblair2845]

Back in the day , a lady was called a fox if she was really good looking… how times have changed 😠

[@lyrasus]

Time to play double

[@ygabriella8991]

😂😂😂

[@kibeast]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carriecongo7616]

My husband takes my 14yo step daughter’s phone when she comes from her mom’s wraps it in aluminum foil and locks it in the gun safe. He lets her use it sparingly. She has been caught bullying , making videos half undressed, and has no supervision at her mom’s house. My husband can only control what happens at our house and he puts his foot down. She gets pissed throws tantrums , tells him she hates him but he is consistent.

[@Sunflowers_220]

One day i hope no matter how she turns out to be in her twenties She'll realize what true healthy love looks like

[@francestaylor9156]

She can get arrested for making child pr0n doing that. Her father should have a very clear conversation with her about that.

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

@@francestaylor9156 This 👆🏽!!! People think it’s only illegal if someone else who is an adult films it, but ANYONE who takes that kind of footage is breaking the law, even if filming yourself as a minor.

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

Have you tried petitioning the court for full custody? Her behavior at her mom’s house is unhealthy and damaging… and potentially illegal.

[@user-kp6we9qw7i]

She will thank him when she’s older

[@phantomfires6349]

As a kid I was heavily prayed upon by adult men who told me honestly that they were adults at the time. My little 13 year old brain LOVED the attention. now at 20 it gives me chills to know how easy I made it for those men. PLEASE PROTECT THAT BABY. She will absolutely understand what you saved her from when she's older

[@mayallyourbaconburn]

I tend to tell my kids “Wow, you are so good at pretending!” “You have an amazing imagination.” Things like that to both encourage and ground.

[@KufLMAO]

Assuming they really understand what imagination means…

[@mayallyourbaconburn]

@@KufLMAO That’s when you you ask “do you know what imagination means?” And if they say no, I give them definitions and examples. Like, I would act like I’m petting a cat and tell them “I know there’s not actually a cat here. But I’m pretending and imagining in my head there is. Pretending is a lot of fun.” Communication wins the day.

[@Faithfulsally]

We did the same with my son when he pretended to be a trex or a dog! We would tell him wow u make a scary dino or u look like a funny puppy!! Then it's ok, time for pretending is done for now, chore time or whatever. We had to say many times ok puppy pretending is done when u lick me!!!!! 😅 But he knew it was pretend and imagination...

[@timothydraper3687]

@@Faithfulsally That sounds sweet that he licked you.

[@spasticfurchild]

The father should be the one calling. He’s a parent of BOTH girls-why is the stepmom having to take care of this??

[@Intro-ester]

Because bio mom and dad clearly don’t care which is likely what led to this in the first place

[@tiawarren5403]

Agreed

[@nikstar1313]

Sounds to me like bio mum and dad are in denial and do not care enough and literally just avoid anything hard to do with parenting. Cognitive dissonance is so real these days.

[@anneshirley9560]

They are the ones that got divorced.... that tells you how much they cared about their kids in the first place.

[@Michadoo]

Dads are useless

[@viktoriahart3627]

13 year old should not be allowed to record her siblings. Ever. Therians don't become safer with age! Predators LOVE those videos. I'd tell her straight up that her youtube channel is like chum to sharks, and she will be the victim. I know from EXPERIENCE. I'm so sorry

[@jennprescott2757]

Absolutely this!!! This is fodder for predators. Get that girl off the internet now!

[@Papayiaaa]

REAL qnd if you pay attention in the video, the woman says that she does all that in very short shorts that makes EVERYTHING worse

[@noonesishome]

Yup. Pdfiles love identity politics, they use it to access children

[@Ben-zr4ho]

​@@noonesishome Don't you mean "Minor Attracted Persons?" 🤢🤮

[@anitagoodman4657]

Imo the word therian should be replaced with delusional and its just ridiculous that it's given any weight in the world.....I'm also very very disturbed to learn that it's possible for a 13 year old to be diagnosed with any major mental illness especially BPD the signs that someone has BPD are so close to the signs of PTSD and so often misdiagnosed it can be very dangerous to label people with a diagnosis of any kind especially such a misinterpreted one it's very bad to be trying to treat someone for a certain disorder that has been wrongly diagnosed and often causes more trauma

[@mbjbeats8192]

"where is your husband in all this?"good question John

[@greenerpastures1000]

Yes. He should have made the phone call to John.

[@FrostyErica]

Avoiding conflict.

[@morgancardinale6098]

Facts, I'd have shut that down real quick. Pretending is different than "I identify as..." Completey different language and language shapes your reality.

[@ttulady06]

This girl has been traumatized somehow looking for attention. Start there. And take away the freaking phone

[@eteauxx7704]

It definitely could be a sign of trauma. I’m a social worker, and one of my kids introduced herself as a kitty. I went along with it for a few minutes and asked the kitty if I could meet the girl. Eventually she was comfortable enough to come out of her shell, because she had been abandoned by so many people.

[@BeccaB529]

@@eteauxx7704Do you think the stepmom saying, “As 40-year-olds we can not begin to understand” means that she is validating the whole “identifying as a fox thing”?

[@eteauxx7704]

No, she’s not validating it. I don’t think she necessarily needs to validate her step-daughter’s identity as a Fox. Do you? My comment just was sharing how I’ve handled a situation as a provider for treatment. Not a parent.

[@BeccaB529]

@@eteauxx7704 No, I do not think she should. Thank you for your take as a provider. :-)

[@jadeblackwell6227]

@@eteauxx7704 my cousin did the exact same thing when she was around 7. She wouldn’t say anything, she would only meow. Both of her parents were addicts 😢

[@meowmirrr]

As a psychology nerd and therapist in training (currently in school), the fox thing sounds almost like a form of dissociation. It seems funny and everything, but to me it sounds like a child's way of escaping into a fantasy to deal with something traumatic (possibly at her mom's house since Jill said it's mostly at her mom's). I would try to connect with her emotionally and see if she would be willing to open up about things that are troubling her. With her other daughter, I think just setting boundaries and reiterating her that it is ok to pretend to be a giraffe AS A GAME, that is as far as it should go. You could possibly explain to her that your step-daughter is not in her right mind, or fib and say that she isn't serious about it either. Also, take your step-daughter's phone away when she's there.

[@katies4345]

I’m curious what your thoughts are if a child acts like this and has absolutely no trauma in their life. Like 100% there’s no chance…

[@meowmirrr]

@@katies4345 my first thought would be that I highly doubt there’s absolutely no trauma. Emotional abuse or emotional neglect, and attachment wounds like having an absent parent is also trauma. The alternative, though, is that they could possibly be on the autism spectrum or just naturally have a very active imagination. If that’s the case, then I would just try my best to remind the child on a regular basis what the difference between pretend and reality is. For instance, if they’re acting that way at the dinner table or at a public event where it’s not appropriate, you could say something like “this isn’t the time to play pretend right now. We need to focus on [whatever you’re doing] and then you can continue to go play pretend.” If they continue then don’t give them attention or acknowledge the behaviour until they get the message. Or use a time out.

[@rynjp]

Quality advice here!

[@NMemone]

Seems like Dr. Delony is considering that as well, since he suggested an interview to see if she's been ab used. One thing is bothering me that no one has mentioned, though. She's involving her half-sister in her anime-influenced shenanigans, and has been caught in closets fooling around with girls. Shouldn't we be concerned about what she could be doing to the nine-year-old?

[@wanguikariuki7673]

Very well put. I was thinking the same.

[@BadBtchGoodenergy]

I thought I was a vampire in my teens, I wore sunglasses, and stayed up late. My mom was well aware, she still woke me up early everyday, and before I walked in she would announce to my grandparents "she's a vampire now" with a smirk on her face 😂😂😂 I look back now and im happy i had her! She supported me but also made sure I didn't lose connection to the outside world, her and I knew it was a long running joke.

[@Christine_GoBills]

The issue is a 13 year old is posting these videos on KZbin. Regardless of what she is posting.

[@kyralindsey5885]

.. ever read the tos?

[@jessciviletti1671]

I actually can agree with you for the sake of the safety of kids. As strict as this sounds you should ONLY be 18+ to be able to post so there is no potential of hurting any kid in any circumstance

[@jennprescott2757]

@@kyralindsey5885 tos doesn’t equate to what is good for your kids.

[@lha816]

And livestreaming

[@lindap.p.1337]

I think the main issue girl is mentally ill and needs help.

[@lonihoots_author]

"When you give a child a phone, you're not giving them access to the world. You're giving the world access to them. " Such a powerful statement.

[@CurriedMexican]

This is what happens when you let the internet raise your children.

[@LadyWillanger]

Amen!!!

[@greenAbbot]

What year did you grow up in where kids didn’t have imaginary friends or thought they were whales or Martians or cars for a while? Everyone except maybe sports fans eventually grow out of that phase.

[@CurriedMexican]

@greenAbbot there's a huge difference between imaginary and making these kids believe they can act like animals. Have you not seen the growing furry community? Do you think these kids being told to act like animals jumping around are just being watched by other kids? They're being watched by pedos. Kids shouldn't be allowed to post content on the internet. Remember, pedos hide in plain sight.

[@mssophiad03]

@@greenAbbot2003 baby and those were the good ass days

[@sirennoir258]

Bingo

[@yaenarajeager4963]

As a 15 year old girl who dealt with sexual abuse/was exposed to sexually deviant behavior, I exhibited the exact same behaviors as this girl and I believe its extremely likely she was exposed to very similar things I was. I hope the best for her. I managed to heal somewhat and I hope she will, too. ❤

[@Robson-pf3lu]

Stop lying to yourself, pretending things happen because there’s no you just mentally ill

[@C.G.FatCat]

I'm praying for healing for you, and I know that God will bless you abundantly. He sees our struggles, no matter what they are. God bless you, dear sister. 💖 John 3:16 💖

[@vaska1999]

​@@C.G.FatCatI hope you're right. God leaves a lot of people to suffer all life long. I think that's tragic.

[@C.G.FatCat]

@@vaska1999 He doesn't leave us to our own suffering, however as humans we tend to often see ourselves as being completely alone. He will help each and everyone of us, no matter who we are, what the situation is, or what our mindset is like. If we call upon His Name and accept Him into our hearts, He will share the burden of life with us and help us to grow and overcome the obstacles in which we all face. I have experienced this first-hand, many times. Are you suffering currently, friend? If so, I will pray for you. God bless, and I hope and pray the best for you. Take care! 🌼 💖 John 3:16 💖

[@spaul5378]

You're inspiring

[@amormio4293]

Thank you for affirming my belief that my 10 year old shouldn’t have a smartphone.

[@Papayiaaa]

Exactly, and the fact that I know people who give their 6 year olds phones is so wrong 💀✋🏻

[@marywynne7931]

"My daughter thinks she's a fox." 1) Take away that phone. 2) Therapy. Lots of it.

[@mollygrace3068]

Depends on the therapist, unfortunately. If all they’re going to do is affirm delusions, that doesn’t help.

[@jennprescott2757]

Gotta read Bad Therapy or at least watch an interview about it. Not therapy.

[@MattM.Silva01]

3) Exorcist 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Papayiaaa]

​@@MattM.Silva014. Holy water 😂😂

[@queenofpixels5458]

About 3/4 of the therapits are going to tell them they are fine and the rest of the world is oppressing them. Next the therapist will be suggesting they go NC if they can't support - been there.

[@DBS472]

Allowing the older daughter to groom the younger child should be a hard no-go

[@lisad56]

I agree with you. Parents need to put their foot down. No recording of siblings and uploading the videos on KZbin or other social media. A 13 year old having a livestream dressing and acting like an animal is disturbing. The father and mother are failing the girl. Crazy thinking it’s ok 😮

[@El_Ophelia]

Exactly this. No doubt, this is how the step-daughter "learned" as well. She was groomed by someone else to convince her, and then she's teaching her younger sister how to "transition" into a therian as well. This is all indoctrination at the most basic level.

[@samjohnson7075]

@@lisad56she’s only with them every other weekend you think they can really stop her from being a fox when they see her twice a month.

[@JakeInvest]

@@samjohnson7075 mainly her real daughter she needs to worry about

[@DTyler165]

@@samjohnson7075they most definitely can stop it from happening in their house and protecting the other 2 younger kids.

[@Proppa-Gander]

As someone who feeds the foxes every night I'd advise 700g of raw chicken/livers and 4 chicken eggs per fox - do not bring indoors as they smell and understand FOXES ARE NOT DOMESTIC PETS! *Back in reality* - at the end of the day we take off the *make believe* and climb into bed as humans - no other species has such luxury which makes us VERY LUCKY! 👍💕🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 xx

[@randybobandy9828]

Also foxes pee on everything, including their water 😂 she better start peeing on everything she owns

[@sirennoir258]

They are clever too. She will see how human she is when she tries to break into things

[@Proppa-Gander]

@@randybobandy9828 🎯🦊 xx

[@Proppa-Gander]

@@sirennoir258 😁🤣😂🦊 xx

[@SIGSEGV1337]

Actually there are a handful of domesticated foxes in Russia now that were breeded by scientists

[@ghostophelia2245]

Kids have acted like animals since the beginning of time. It's often a coping mechanism for trauma and abuse. The girl needs therapy and the bio mother possibly needs to be looked into

[@hopeintruth5119]

Not everything is abuse pr trauma. Kids just have naturally wild imaginations. Some believe that they are super heroes, some believe they can turn into dragons, and some believe in animal stiff. Usually, it is a phase, or if you're lucky, hahaha they become extremely good cosplayers

[@ghostophelia2245]

@hopeintruth5119 I'm not doctor, just speaking from personal experience with children I've worked with. The way it was explained to me was that a healthy well adjusted person doesn't need to put a mask on. I've seen cases where children will literally bark instead of talking and I always find out about horrific abuse in that child's past. Playing pretend and cosplaying is different from literally believing you are an animal. It might be bullying, it might be abuse, it might be an extremely scary situation that child was in and hasn't healed from. But from my experience, some questions at least need to be asked

[@JLynnEchelon]

I honestly don't think it's the worst thing in the world if it were just imagination. Direct it into writing stories or plays. Putting it on the internet is opening that to adult fetishists and dragging the younger siblings into it is scarier.

[@vaska1999]

Pre-school kids, yes, but not teenagers. There's never been a time in history when adolescents acted as if they were foxes or rabbits or anything but humans.

[@ghostophelia2245]

@vaska1999 while I don't think this particular situation is wholesome, I don't appreciate "never"s or "always". Throughout human history, people have pretended to be animals or dressed as animals. Often to tap into their spirits or to tell stories.

[@lookouthill11]

She’s being let down by her father completely. 100%.

[@lovingmeinfinity]

I am a mother.Why are you blaming her father a hundred percent? The mother sounds like she has custody, and he has visitation . The mother and father needs to work together to stop this, but if the mother believes it's okay, there's nothing the father can do.

[@dohner29]

The father has her 4 days a month and it's his fault? The mother allowed the KZbin channel behind his back, the mother gave a smart phone to a 10 year old. You're delusional. The most the father can do is petition the court for full custody but we all know how that will go down. The courts are radicalized in this country so good luck with that.

[@pmamonthero6641]

And what about the mother?

[@muffindolphindaphnee]

I think this person means that obviously the mother has deserted her child, letting her reach this state, so now the father is the one who should be taking her out of this. He definitely should be putting his foot down. But instead the step mother is the one actively trying to help the older daughter. It's so sad :(. I hope both kids are okay ❤️

[@ascendednightingale2456]

@@pmamonthero6641Males like to pretend that the collapse of the world is attributed to them not being present. They like to inflate their importance.

[@megsley]

put her outside in the rain and tell her "wild animals live outside, sweetie!"

[@royalredus]

Lol!

[@ForeverChiTonight]

I would def do this 😆😆 see how quick they’ll identify as a person

[@Auntie-Sara]

It's a funny thought but sadly a child deep in hurt they will stay there and that leaves them vulnerable for the streets to sweep them up. I know about that because it was me at 14😢

[@thebigusboyus]

One of those things that’s somewhat funny as a joke, but wouldn’t be funny at all in reality

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Hmmmmm

[@CaliAAA72]

It’s called discipline people. Discipline your children. Tell them no. Stop trying to be their friend and be their parent. Too many people don’t want to parent and live their lives as if they don’t have kids.

[@bobby9192]

It’s not her child

[@imnezu8940]

A child just enjoying themselves needs to be disciplined? Jesus Christ what kind of childhood did you have what a disgusting thing to do to a child just being a goofy child.

[@bobby9192]

@@imnezu8940 Jesus Christ was probably the issue. I grew up in a bible thumping family.

[@ttulady06]

Sure but it’s not her kid and how do you think the girls real mom will respond if she tells her no phone in their house

[@imnezu8940]

@@bobby9192 that makes sense why’d project this onto a child just being goofy. Do you still live with the extreme shame your family most likely instilled in you with their religiousness rhetoric? I’m sorry you parents never just let you be a child.

[@julievuitt0n]

I dont think dad is being very proactive in this situation...he gave up and the bio mom is just going w the organic flow .... THIS WOMEN IS DOING HER BEST BLESS HER

[@stremendous73]

It seems like the more protective, the more conservative, the more parent-like parent often gets ignored and disrespected and disregarded so much that they eventually get tired and worn out - no matter how hard they try to stay engaged and try to keep being a parent with rules/expectations.

[@roadrunner3232]

@@stremendous73that’s true .

[@Zach-dc8ws]

As 25 year old who’s about to be a father this fall this kinda stuff scares the hell out of me.

[@xodroid9853]

If you will allow TV, buy old DVDs of shows you approve of and no internet streaming! I wish I invested sooner. They got into it during COVID when we were all trapped at home trying not to get fired, and nothing is more entertaining than the stupid idiots on KZbin. Streaming services are too similar to social media.❤ Congratulations on becoming a dad!

[@Minty738]

A lot of the time kids pretending to be animals is a good way to explore how to be a human as well, it can also be a sign that they are lacking attention so any attention is good attention in that situation. Empathy and compassion for what children go through will get you a long way. Best of luck friend!

[@0num4]

Zach, relax. Do the best you can to be emotionally open and supportive of both your child and your spouse (assuming you're married, of course). Kids will learn less from what you tell them to do, and far more in modeling behavior after the adults and other kids in their lives--most especially parents. If problems present themselves, do not be afraid to ask yourself the question "am I doing something that could cause this unwanted behavior in my child?" It wasn't until I began to understand my own emotional dysregulation that I was able to better help my kids with theirs--hard to teach someone else or demonstrate something you simply don't know how to do for yourself!

[@anonymous3174]

Bro its not that hard. Eduvate them young. And no phone until theyre 18

[@TranquilDisturbance]

​​@@anonymous3174 No phone until they're 18 is really dangerous. I had to call 911 once whenever I was still underage. Especially if you let your kid get a driver's license at 16, they need to have a phone to call 911 or their parents. No SMART phone ... That's doable. Get them a flip phone with restricted access. Yes, there are still flip phones. Whenever I was 13 I was given a flip phone and there was no internet access. Just for texts and calls. You can also restrict certain numbers from contacting your child if you think they're a bad influence.

[@hannahkeefer7453]

I was always kind of embarrassed that my parents didn’t let me have a phone til my junior year of high school, but now I’m forever grateful they did that.

[@beckee6282]

Same. I used to hide my iPod at school because that’s all I had and I got made fun of for not having a phone. I actually wish I didn’t have one until I was a senior

[@fotoreportaze5797]

I had my first phone when I was around 12-13 years old. But it wasn´t an i-Phone, just a regular cellphone with buttons that you can use to make phone calls, send a text message in case of an emergency or stay in touch with your parents/siblings/friends without any access to the internet at all. So no browsing social media, no games (well apart from the ones that were already pre-installed, but I never got into Snake or Tetris :-D). I got my first i-Phone when I was in university. It was my mom´s old i-Phone since she wanted to make a switch back to regular cellphone with buttons after a few years of cursing on i-Phones ("Why are they so large? I can´t fit it in my pocket." "Why do they look so fragile?" Why do they need to be charged all the time? Why does a random app closes or opens with only a slight touch of a screen? How am I supposed to even hold it comfortably like this?")... + she also had no use of the most of the features, just got one because all of her colleagues had it and she felt behind. Anyway, I think that was a great compromise between having a phone and not having all the potentially harmful stuff (social media, internet...). I was born in 1992, so I feel like I grew up with enough technology and still had a balance with other hobbies and outdoor activities.

[@Blessedfamilymama]

Get 50/50 custody at a minimum. Go to court. Get more control over her life. Spend more time with her. Go to her therapy sessions. Show up every chance you get. People! Seeing your kids two weekends a month is not enough!

[@rachaelskibbe7899]

I agree. When I heard every other weekend my first thought was .."why only every other weekend?"

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

I was thinking exactly this, especially when she said everything they know about the step daughters therapy is third person info from the girls mom… why?! If they were really concerned, they should’ve been more involved on her therapy sessions and been in contact with the counselor. Also she said there was questionable se*ual behavior in male adults (not sure if she means family, friends, boyfriends of the moms)… if there was questionable se*ial behavior against my daughter or while my daughter was present, I would’ve fought for full custody!!! Who leaves their young daughter to face that without trying to get her away from it?

[@Dogmeat47]

This is the sad thing, is that in most of these cases, the parent that is not affirming the delusion of the child is the one that ends up obstructed from custody, and the grooming parent gets full custody. It is a shocking reality but as soon as Delony said "be prepared that the mother might want to take you to court", my gut dropped and I thought, "and chances are, based on these cases, those people are never going to see that child again." But you have to try. Somebody has to fight for the sanity of these children. Insane where we are, total circus show.

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

@@Dogmeat47 So true! And a lot of parents get told by schools and therapists that them not allowing their child to identify as whatever they want, is damaging to the child… they guilt trip and gaslight the SANE parents who try to put a stop to it, until the parent thinks THEY are the problem. There’s so many parents coming forward saying medical professionals and schools convinced them that transitioning their children who identified as a different gender, was what a parent who really cared would do. And now they have so much regret and guilt over allowing them to convince them of it, because now as adults so many kids regret transitioning but can never go back.

[@randybobandy9828]

​@@rachaelskibbe7899because men are forced to do every other weekend all the time.

[@sophiawish9772]

100% agree with Dr. Deloney. So sorry for this child at 13 to have such a troubled life.

[@stacyrich113]

Take the mother to court for full custody!

[@coxrocks25]

They just might win in Utah

[@MommaHo888]

They would probably lose custody. This is part of LGBQ identity politics. Seriously. In Colorado if you do not identify confirm the child you can lose custody. This is serious stuff. We have to start talking and stopping this craziness.

[@sarahbuzek8019]

30k+

[@anonymous3174]

These days theyll probably lose because they arent "affirming" if her delusions.

[@dariavalgutskova355]

It’s sounds like dad is not even interested in investing minimum time in her life. For example, ask info from the psychologist. So I bet he won’t do it because he don’t want to

[@MarkovianMan]

Kids under 18 should not be allowed to have social media channels (KZbin, TikTok, etc.).

[@thatdeliagirl1491]

10:23 This hit me. I got into hard drugs at a very young age and my dad got me out of it. I hated him in my teens for "taking me away from my friends" but I thank him as an adult for saving my life.

[@niftynic115]

My dad would have just nodded and escorted me outside, said "wild animals live outside and forage for food", went back in the house and lock the door behind him.

[@sackofangrybadgers]

This is 100% the only way to handle it. That girl would stop the bs real quick.

[@traveler320ak7]

Yep and no good human food..just dog kibble. It would take one meal and they would decide they are human again. Buying into the insanity is not helping society.

[@calamarimatahari1008]

Yep same here. ❤good dads!!!!

[@Alexiismoon]

There’s less traumatic ways to fix things. The step daughter has probably underlying trauma and that’s why she behaves like that. You don’t just become a furry for no reason, even with internet access

[@joshuaadams6565]

@@sackofangrybadgers Not that simple. She’s aware that she’s human, she just believes she was a fox in a previous life. It’s spiritual, like reincarnation. She uses KZbin and wears clothes, she’s very aware that she’s a girl.

[@llehsir]

How did controlling internet access in their home not cross their minds

[@denisefinney8459]

The child has a phone that comes with a 5g internet plan. She can get around their wifi access limits.

[@SippenSomeTea]

Well the kid is only at their house 2 weekends a month its not enough time

[@hannahsharma5108]

Because that would mean mom and dad actually get off their phones too

[@Username0467]

@@denisefinney8459 Not if she doesn’t have a phone when she’s there?

[@MartinBielkovic]

@@denisefinney8459 how about dont leave the simcard in?

[@maryfields877]

My son is in high school and a girl in one this classes is like this. She urinates on herself on purpose and stinks up the classroom and teachers can't do anything about it. I wasn't sure how to react when he told me this, but he was 100% disgusted. I'm just shocked that this is a thing now.

[@HumanimalChannel]

Urinating like thay3, wetting the bed... iften its to repulse a predator and to try to avoid abuse

[@MyArtEminence]

It's hazardous, bodily fluid. God wtf is the world coming to

[@bekss6307]

This story sounds 1,000% fake, but sure.

[@maryfields877]

@@bekss6307 Really? My son and I just talked about the other day and she still doing this. Other students notice it and say rude things, still no one does anything. Of note, I live in California so you can say it's fake if you want; I assure you it's not, but go off.

[@wpatrickw2012]

⁠@@maryfields877the girl needs psychiatric help. If she wants to express degradation fantasies in private it is her business. It crosses the line when she does this in public. She is probably crying out for attention because something is missing in her life.

[@austyn5004]

My daughter’s friend is exactly like this. The girl is clearly autistic (undiagnosed) and has free range of the internet. The only reason why I tolerate the friendship is because my daughter is smart enough to not follow along with it. She likes her friend a lot and wants to be a good influence on her. What also helps is that I grew up in internet culture and still part of it. I’m able to have conversations with my kids about all of these “trends” in a way they understand and what to watch out for. It’s nuts how furry culture is so rampant now lmao

[@hopeintruth5119]

Furry culture has always been a big thing. They just haven't have a large viewership on the internet

[@lindseymiller8165]

I come here to say that. The step daughter is absolutely autistic. Absolutely.

[@luckysniper7263]

Thanks rando for your clearly uninformed and completely uneducated diagnosis of someone you've never met! Crazy you can't let people be people. If they aren't hurting themselves or others, what's the harm?

[@SpiralingNymphs]

“This girl who isn’t diagnosed is clearly autistic! I mean just look at her… SHE IDENTIFIES AS AN ANIMAL ON A MENTAL/SPIRITUAL LEVEL !!!!!”

[@cess4089]

Imagine how a broken family could hurt someone so bad they don’t want to be human.

[@singerjo5791]

It’s not the broken family making her want to be an animal. It’s today’s society and the identity crap! There are two genders. That stupid debate started this mess!

[@Positivityispowerful]

Yeah she wants to escape reality. That’s what I was thinking as well :( From the sounds of the mom, I can understand why they got a divorce, but it’s so sad to see the effects on the children. It’s devastating.

[@JB-wp2gn]

They need to file for full custody. Get her away from that mom

[@guroranko]

Talking with the teenager and telling them about predators is also an important thing, I think. They may not understand it completely at that age, but enough that there is potential danger from creeps on the internet or creeps in general. The kid will start to understand that the parents aren't just imposing rules because they are mean, but because they care and because there are valid concerns that can ruin the childs life if not being cautious enough. This could actually bring them closer together, I think.

[@Mmhmmokay]

I would look up KZbin rules. They may restrict minors from uploading videos without parental requests

[@ayame2900]

I don’t have kids yet, but I cried watching this video. It breaks my heart how lost kids today are and that there are adults encouraging this self-destruction, like counsellors and teachers and therapists. They’re supposed to keep kids safe and instead they put litter boxes in the school bathroom for kids who think they’re cats. It’s unforgivable.

[@Voodoofoxx]

Keep them far from the internet

[@LCee7]

I’m a step parent. He’s 21 now and doing pretty well. I came into his life when he was 8. It was the hardest thing I ever did. It was so, so hard. I’m glad I stuck through. I love him.

[@alittlepieceofearth]

Why couldn't Dad try to contact YT now and say, "Hey, I'm her dad. Shut this down. She's a minor." Most things say in all of their legal statements and disclaimers that you have to be 18 or have parents permission.

[@ciarajeanr]

You only have to be 13 to have your own KZbin account.

[@kp2223]

​@@ciarajeanrBut you do need parents permission to post other minors under thirteen who have not legally consented to the privacy terms and agreements of youtube.

[@ciarajeanr]

@kp2223 That's true. I'm the mother of an 11 year old and she doesn't have any social media. I also don't post her pictures on my own social media. Anyone who wants pictures of her and I'm OK with them having any are close enough they can just ask me. If you want pictures of my child and you don't have my number to get ahold of me, I definitely do not want you looking at her. Too many creeps.

[@kp2223]

@@ciarajeanr 💯

[@anonymous3174]

Oh you sweet summer child. 😅

[@lisacameron4698]

Poor kid has probably been sexually abused and doesnt want to live in her skin. Wants to be someone shes not. This is sad! Hopefully step mom and dad find the help she needs

[@tpc8277]

Exactly, maybe she’s dissociating and found the fox identity as an alter ego

[@pswizzle6616]

How tf did you get sexually abused from that? You can’t make harsh assumptions about someone you don’t know. That’s dangerous behavior

[@kyleconnor2759]

Some people just go directly to that. It’s possible, but otherwise normal kids are doing stuff like this.

[@lisacameron4698]

@@pswizzle6616 oif you listened to it properly there were definate signs in there. 1 in 3 girls before the age of 16 and 1 in 6 boys, the stats are pretty high. And with the birth mother allowing this behavior like its "normal", than what else is normal in that house. There is nothing normal or healthy in any of this, other than step mom reaching out for help because she knows something isn't right , only to be literally laughed at. There is much deeper issues here

[@pswizzle6616]

@@lisacameron4698 what stars are you reading that say 1 in 3 girls or 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused?

[@KristenS-mu1oc]

This is actually a real thing. My mom is a HS teacher and has 30+ students who identify as “furries” (or animals). They make sounds, change their names, and adopt the mannerisms.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

It is not a 'real thing', but a social contagion. Growing up in the 60s, exactly ZERO kids behaved like this.

[@KristenS-mu1oc]

I meant that it’s actually becoming very common. This caller’s daughter is not one of few. Calm down lol.

[@davinasquirrel7672]

@@KristenS-mu1oc How does the word 'common' become synonymous with 'good' or 'normal' in your world? Murder, car accidents are 'common', but should they be encouraged because they are a common occurrence? That your mother is a HS teacher, and not a primary school teacher, is even more concerning. It is not as if these are little kids, these are teens, who actually should be on the journey to become adults, not regress into a fantasy world. Just imagine a future job interview with these furries - Boss: "Do you have any needs that we should be aware of?" Furry: "I need a bowl of fresh water on the floor by my desk at all times" Boss: "Thank you for your application, we will not be proceeding any further" BTW, I do not need to "calm down". What you mean is for me to STFU regarding a widespread and damaging issue going on. Not going to happen.

[@iiCounted-op5jx]

belongs in a mental hospital

[@MattTerrell-gc9vw]

That's not furries... furries is another thing

[@SoundWaveFilm]

I disagree, The problem with taking away internet entirely is that she already has access at her moms house, you need to teach her how to be safe, not shut it off completely

[@cococheesesticks]

“she identifies as a giraffe- if you’re curious” I wasn’t but thanks! 🤣

[@sumis8096]

😂

[@lyndalamb3221]

Giraffes don't eat any meat or candy or ice cream.

[@DanielleFerreira-kt7ix]

Sometimes I feel sorry for Dr. Delony. Is he allowed to say, "look, I have no idea, what you should do, next call".

[@emilyk.w3593]

Lol for reals

[@Rydrsv]

Agree. I mean to suggest a forensic interview? He was reaching.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

​@@Rydrsvnot at all. The 13 year old is clearly not supervised well at her biological moms home. Dr John is trying to rule out any sexual abuse. Unfortunately it happens a lot more than we would like to admit, especially to children and young teens who are vulnerable because of a lack of love, attention, or a broken home.

[@Rydrsv]

@@GameTime-yj6qv not disagreeing with you. Forensic interviews can be pretty traumatizing, especially for children. I’m just saying there are other least invasive measures that can be used first before deciding to put a child through one.

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

@@Rydrsv yes I do agree with that.

[@suehackett9621]

I had a teacher call me one day and say she never knew any parent who only had one rule! My rule was you had to be safe, in my world it encompasses everything I might have any concerns about. So my children grew up helping make the rules and curfews so they would be safe. It saved lots of time and arguments.

[@brittybee6615]

That’s a good idea; like teaching the underlying principle instead of just the rules meant to uphold it.

[@shannono9158]

I have always been extremely adhd, before it was even named that. I hated being me. I was a tomboy. If there were adults telling me that I could be something else, I would have been all over that. I would have happily chopped myself up and I still would not be fulfilled. This is so dangerous 😳 ☠️. I pray daily for the children and these very lost adults 🙏.

[@JAF1323]

This girl really reminds me a lot of somebody that I used to be friendly with. How she looked changed as often as the wind. One week, her hair would be jet black. Another, it would be unnaturally red. Another, it would be shaved off. She wore a lot of black clothes and said that she was emo, then Gothic, and finally several years later bisexual. I knew her when we were both in seventh and eighth grades, and we got close. I told her that she was pretty because she was, and she was surprised by that. I was a normal looking kid, but I had interests that were very unusual, and also was legally blind. One day in theater, I finally asked her if she was OK because I noticed that she had been acting strangely for a comparatively long time. It was then that she told me of what had happened to her, and what someone had done to her. I was shocked. In a way, I was very, very thankful that she had told somebody else, and that telling wasn’t my job. It made sense though. It made looking at a previous picture of her on Instagram before everything changed even more devastating. It gave context to the situation. One person said that she looked like a Sephora model in that picture, and she was right. She was so beautiful there, but what mattered more than that is that she was still just as beautiful and kind on the inside. Nothing could tarnish that, and nothing could change that. I’ve met a lot of other people who displayed similar qualities as far as how they looked on the outside. Some people that I’ve known Didn’t always bathe as much as other people, and some gained a lot of weight or dressed in ways that make them seem less physically appealing. They did this as a kind of shield so that no one would ever hurt them again. I can’t blame them at all, but it just makes me feel so badly for them. I don’t know if that’s what's going on with her,but she’s definitely going to be in my thoughts and prayers. Her family will be there, as well.

[@dana102083]

I dunno John, my ring tone would be "WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY?!?RINGDINGDINGINDIGNGIDNDINGGGGG..

[@leahr9038]

It's not funny. Our youth is in trouble.

[@Krise343]

Agree

[@francestaylor9156]

Things have been messed up for a long time. Gen X drowned themselves in alcohol and drugs. Lots of self deletions. Ppl are just now realizing it’s getting whacky bc the kids aren’t hiding it anymore.

[@miketheyunggod2534]

Millennial parents thank you for this.

[@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom]

Yep, and all generations thereafter.

[@noodleMoodle253]

I mean. It was pretty funny 😂

[@shrtblondie1]

Wow. I'm so glad my son is grown. This world scares me more everyday.

[@jennprescott2757]

Homeschool is the only option these days.

[@Bruh-Moment435]

​@@jennprescott2757My gf was home schooled without having any social interaction outside her home and she suffers to make connections as an adult, if homeschooling is the option one needs to be VERY careful their kid still gets the proper exposure to other kids their age so they can learn socialization skills

[@Papayiaaa]

​@@jennprescott2757and in some countries is not even allowed

[@Moonchild2488]

I remember my parents taking my phone away and even closing WIFI in the house so that I would study and stay away from creepy stuff on the web. Now that I am an adult, I trully respect their decisions and I am Totally grateful that they did this! Comparing me with my peers I can somehow see differences and could say that I was kept away from many dangers! Same was with curfew and so on! I heard soo many stories from my friends about creepy older dudes on snapchat/facebook manipulating minor girls and so on!

[@geometerfpv2804]

Yeah...I truly needed my parents to disable the internet when I was a kid. Unfortunately, they really didn't know how. At least, not in a way I couldn't quickly undo.

[@koraliee]

I went to DBT as a troubled teen and it completely changed my life and direction. So glad to hear it get the recognition it deserves.

[@MowMowProductions]

Therian is often linked to childhood neglect… if that doesn’t tell you more about the parents i don’t know what does.

[@belindavandyke8363]

She’s 13, there’s nobody she NEEDS to be texting. No phone at all. Not in your house.

[@jenniferpearce1052]

At 13 I was on the phone with my best friend all the time. Landline. Kids don't talk anymore

[@GreenWing-]

Idk man, when I was a kid it was the only thing that made me feel safe. Coming from an abusive home, I needed access to friends that were supportive, and shows were helpful to escape the dark thoughts. Not going to tell you that the internet and the people on there are necessarily good, but it’s probably the only reason I’m here today.

[@TonyCox1351]

My problem isn’t with her having a phone it’s with her having a KZbin channel and recording content wearing short shorts

[@randybobandy9828]

​@@jenniferpearce1052 nope, kids or even young adults won't answer the phone, they will ignore the call and then text you back.

[@randybobandy9828]

​@@GreenWing-if you had a smart phone as a kid then your home wasn't abusive

[@ladyolinden]

On parents standing strong: YES My dad did that and for a few years I hated him for it because I had been convinced he hated me but he didn't, he loved me and was fighting for my safety and wellbeing and please, always stay strong for the children no matter how old they are! Parents need strong parents

[@MAX-cm6hs]

Bless you!

[@Zoe-qd8fx]

Wow. Kids should be out playing, be involved in sports, doing art, and having a simple good childhood. This is sooo sad.

[@erinjean2695]

Technically the “therian” kids are playing a super imaginative game, learning to walk and jump on all fours is really athletic, making masks and ears and tails and stuff is arts and crafts. Honestly the only issue is tying this up with identity vs recognizing its pretend and the streaming/media stuff. Otherwise, weird but pretty wholesome

[@yaelfeder9042]

I have borderline personality disorder and I had a friend in high school who had it and did the exact same thing as this girl. At least I never fell in that trap. Over ten years on, my friend still thinks she’s a cat. I haven’t spoken to her in years.

[@benjohnson3349]

My kids play pretend and that is encouraged. We also pull back to reality when we have to. My kids have been told that I am NOT their friend. I AM their dad. Dad loves them more and cares more than a friend ever will and it is my job to make sure they grow up healthy, stable and sane.

[@thecowsaysmoo6084]

Sounds like she found a coping mechanism for her situation.

[@fioregiallo]

This. I had a troubled childhood and had a stage where I was a "dog." For like two years. Was diagnosed much later with several mental health disorders and am currently undergoing testing for autism. I'd rather my kid be into something like this than being into partying or getting into other trouble. Sounds like a creative outlet as they mentioned she is making the masks/gear. I think the stepmom probably peaked in highschool and is just afraid of having a "weird" kid. The KZbin aspect, they just gotta take the phone away. Not completely but they need to establish rules for monitoring. My mother allowed me to have a computer with Internet in my room since I was like 13 (currently 32). The Internet was bad enough then. My son has no access to YT or browser but he does have a tablet. I don't see it any differently than me having my gameboys as a kid, and he's not on it all the time.

[@geometerfpv2804]

​@@fioregialloSeriously? Partying and getting into trouble is normal. This stuff is extremely isolating. Society rejects it. It severely limits who you can be friends with ("therians" report being severely bullied, and report only being able to relate to other "therians"). That's not healthy. Partying is a normal teenage coping mechanism that others in the society can relate to, and that doesn't close doors for you.

[@fioregiallo]

@@geometerfpv2804 you know what used to be not accepted by society? Weeaboos. Being into anything related to anime. Now it's extremely popular. Extremely!!! Underage drinking and doing drugs is not normal. I partied with older ppl in highschool and was ostracized for it by teachers AND students. What was isolating was not having a safe, stable environment at home. I wish all I was into was making animal masks and learning how to jump right or whatever she said.

[@kyleconnor2759]

This is maybe okay for a while for a child under 7 or 8. Any older than that and it’s a problem imo.

[@kyleconnor2759]

Anime is still pretty weird and should be experienced in moderation for children. There are also extremely violent and graphic anime with very dark themes and stories. Them being a cartoon is something that could lead a kid to moving from harmless anime to that. I also never heard the term weaboo. It’s definitely not normal.

[@kimberleekuz3181]

My daughter asked me if she could wear a tail to school and I said "No, absolutely not. You can dress up on Halloween as people have done forever." What ever happened to parenting? To saying no? To disciplining our children? This world is just something else. It makes me want to go full-on little house on the prairie.

[@whoevenisthatlady]

As i am listening to this, i can see that the stepmom is using words like “my children” and kind of singling the stepdaughter out as just a guest rather than a family member. I think that even switching the verbiage to “my daughter” and including her WITH the other children could also do a world of difference! Of course, i don’t know the situation, but being married to the father of the stepdaughter and also having children with him would biologically make their children the stepdaughter’s half-siblings, and maybe she could refer to them as such. After all, this is a little girl who just feels disconnected and even that small bit of separation could make for years of distance and resentment. I can tell that this woman wants change in her life with her children, and I applaud her for that! But i think it’s important to look in ALL instances of where change could be needed and maybe that could lead to other issues being resolved! Much luck to her and her family!

[@berenonehand]

Terrific advice. And also - the more time we can spend with our kids off the internet, out in the real world, being in our real selves and real, active bodies, the better they will be.

[@nox_chan]

1994: I think my kid is smoking Marijuana 2024: my step daughter thinks she's a fox

[@orinjackson975]

Yeah, why can’t she be sneaking cigarettes like a normal 13-year-old?

[@amandacox5682]

I grew up in the 80s and 90s. My parents would have told me that I was not a fox, to take off the mask and tail, and to knock it off. End of conversation. This entire generation is going to be completely useless.

[@SashaLawrence-ns3vv]

Why are the parents so clueless though? Zombied out in the middle of their own screen addictions.

[@bluebellcrushedvelvet]

Omg thank youuuu!!!! I'm also an 80's 90's baby!!! Wtf happened to this world!!! This is just INSANE!! I grew up running in the woods!! In the fields! Playing barbie and being a tomboy at the same time!! There's noooo freaking way I'd let my children (if I had any) behave like this!!! Utterly toxic!! They will not be given free rain to be toxic delusional brats just making up bs detached from reality!! Kids nowadays are just manic!! And so troubled!!

[@francestaylor9156]

It was in moderation. They would encourage make believe for young kids. But at 14 there’s some problems.

[@user-if4ke6en9r]

I was born on the tail end of ‘99, but I have good parents who are believers in the Lord, disciplined me when I was being disrespectful, and overall just didn’t allow me to be ruled by the technology of the time. I wasn’t allowed a Facebook until I was 15, parents checked my phone every now and again, I was also public schooled all 12 years so I definitely got to experience some of the indoctrination especially in high school, but my parents had already made me grounded in who I was, I was invincible.

[@Haruzumakii]

It's always the previous generations fault for raising the next generation to what they become. What a wonderful cycle

[@icantthinkofascreenname3064]

Perfect example of why Dr Laura always warns against marrying someone divorced with kids.

[@jennprescott2757]

Right. Hold off on relationships until your kids are older.

[@Ksee89]

When I was in sixth grade Tarzan had just come out from Disney. So I ran around like a guerilla for months. When 7th grade came I stopped doing that because I thought "this wouldn't be appropriate in middle school." So I grew out of it. These kids today would probably grow out of it too. Unfortunately they have the dopamine rush of social media likes to encourage it further. I guarantee if they did their research into who's watching her content, then looked back at past video's likes and subscribers and compared it to the moment she started wearing shorter clothes she'll see a drastic increase 📈 in followers. So what I'd do is show that to her and ask her who she thinks her followers are? And see what she says. She's probably going to give innocent answers like "kids my age." Then I'd go through each of the commenters and show her one by one who's her audience. I'm sure there's stats to show her actual audience and their ages and genders. So I'd show hee the reality that her Audience is older men over the age of 25 to see her reaction. She's probably not going to like that. Then I'd show her evidence of catfishing and warn her of who she's probably going to meet if she goes down the path of meeting someone "her age" online. Give her the wake up information and let her decide from there. But I'd let her know this is why this isn't allowed in our home anymore.

[@Megan-rr6qg]

100

[@MegaLilJen]

Hello, Dr John, nobody can be diagnosed with a personality disorder before 18. LCSW here. You should know this! Dad should sue for custody.

[@cup_o_TMarie]

Yes I’m surprised he doesn’t know/remember that😬

[@mamiavodah1012]

Well he actually asked if someone else Dx her with BPD, then said she likely does NOT have it. I was most surprised he said in most states the parent was the client - THAT is untrue, most states give teens medical autonomy 13-16yrs, & even those that don't, in programs like DBT the youth is still the client, even if they don't have complete autonomy.

[@Kbatl1997]

@@cup_o_TMariei think he doesnt specialize in mental health but gives decent advice on the topic

[@0num4]

I understand why such diagnoses of minors is challenging, but it's not as though the signs & symptoms are not present prior to adulthood. It's illogical to assume that simply because this patient is 13, they can't develop behavioral patterns indicative of a personality disorder. I think we can all agree that, regardless of age of diagnosis, the most important factor is helping to treat this unhealthy behavior as soon as it is noticed. It is also very likely that the step-mom in this case merely heard the words "personality disorder" attributed to the step-daughter in connection with conversations with her husband. We already know that she's not speaking to the girl's mental health professional(s) herself, and if she's getting information second- or third-hand, she's very likely to misspeak. I'd place the odds of this case being far more likely than Dr. Deloney not knowing.

[@jessicabarrientos3479]

Actually current DSM5 protocol states that a person under 18 CAN be diagnosed if symptoms have been present for longer than a year.

[@Amp0817]

There should be no issue with her not having a phone at your house, no foxes own cell phones.

[@disco4535]

That poor little girl. Crushes my heart thinking about how the adults in her life, the ones she needs the most, have failed her. Shes a little child with a YT, jumping around in short shorts?? Where are the freaking parents

[@niziangely5469]

Im 28 and as a teenager the craziest thing we did was wear racoon eyeliner and wear crazy emo clothes. What happened to that?

[@2okaycola]

They’re one uppers. So different!! So edgy. Borderline psychotic

[@geometerfpv2804]

Same! But I also clearly remember how everything felt so serious and urgent and real...and how I was so, so certain that I knew better than the adults...so I can see how this kind of thing could happen when you mix in modern social media.

[@berenonehand]

Social media has gotten a LOT more popular and pervasive since your teen days

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

​@@2okaycola they are kids. Chill out.

[@mrsmayes7545]

MySpace collapsed... It was the end of the world as we know it

[@SmallBobby]

Dad should have called in, not stepmom.

[@Dogmeat47]

He should've, but he didn't. Related or not, she's an adult who stood up for this child. She's absolutely applauded for her bravery.

[@tiawarren5403]

Yep..sad

[@trianglesandsquares420]

Not everyone is a superfan of this podcast

[@LKauf279]

He is completely out of his element, NOT a natural leader or father figure. He's going to have to step tf up.

[@jennprescott2757]

If he was a good dad, this issue wouldn’t be so.

[@groworforage342]

yep! affirm the child not the identity.

[@BriBerg-y9j]

‘Do I continue to allow her to be a giraffe’ 😂😂😂

[@Ant_Lambo]

I SPIT OUT MY COFFEE WHEN I HEARD HER SAY HER DAUGHTER IDENTIFIES AS A GIRAFFE!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am SO not ready for kids!!! 😂😂

[@trexxy9628]

Saaaaaaaame. Hell, John lost it. I feel less bad about choking on my tea

[@alladreamwedreamed]

She identifies as a giraffe, if you're curious 😂😂

[@anneshirley9560]

Just raise them to be different. We need more good people having kids, not less. Homeschool, and teach them about Christ, and limit the internet. Those can help a lot.

[@paigenicholespeaks6172]

😂😂😂😂

[@ReesMDavidson]

I died 😂

[@jseehowitsbeen3177]

Heck no. She would not be teaching my kids any of that garbage if she were my step-daughter.

[@LynnS-gd8wq]

My Dad would have took one look at me and said you're not a GD animal. And he would have said it with such conviction that I would have never brought it up again.

[@Imissnormal]

Ah the Red Foreman approach.

[@lexir7504]

yeah bring back shame 😂

[@girlygirl1890]

@LynnS YES!! And THAT'S what a LOVING dad would do. I agree with what your dad would do.

[@jangillen4622]

People are mammals…kingdom anomalía

[@leahcross3338]

The opinion of a father towards their daughter has such an impact that once the daughter is aware she will never forget his words said and shared with his baby girl. It will change her belief in herself. And cause her to love her true self . The one he knows and believes that she is. This dad needs to be honest and straight forward with his little girl . Which she has been since birth and will be for time and all Eternity. Also this stepmom is very loving and her worry and concern and opinion matter tremendously. Thank you step mom for the care and dedication to a child she did not biologicaly give life to. It takes a super woman to be that mothering type. She is above and beyond the best addition to this girl's life . I wish all step mothers were this way. Thanks step Momma ! You are amazing !

[@muirgirl]

Children need to be off the internet, full stop.

[@Nosirrah2112]

The silent reaction eye rub thing made me literally laugh out loud 😆

[@sharonm7039]

Can't they report the channel to KZbin as being owned by a minor? Won't they shut it down?

[@cindymann3673]

Reporting pages doesn’t always work and also, that doesn’t prevent her from creating another one, especially considering that her mom overruled the dad’s decision about having a YT page.

[@Chloe-dv9hf]

you only have to be 13 to create a youtube channel

[@JaneAvril36]

I tried recently and there's no actually option to report a channel for being run by someone under-age which is horrible

[@mwhe3111]

I love Delony's advice about Miss Giraffe. I would totally go with it, and take her outside to pick out where she can live when she's older, and what sort of plants she can eat, etc. And I completely agree with her having to live in the real world at regular times.

[@RowesRising]

My parents failed me and my biggest brother took me in at age 16. He told me “I will help you as long as you are helping yourself.” And I never gave up on myself. He was my “sturdy parent” that I needed and desired. I was totally unfettered and basically raising myself prior to him taking me in. My parents just gave up after raising the first 3 kids the last 4 of us raised ourselves. It was not easy. I’m thankful for my big brother. Because of him I learned to love and respect myself and I learned to have standards for myself. 🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@sarahbethkeating7900]

oh my gosh. praying for you mama. I can't imagine how hard that must be. protect your younger daughter.

[@lot2196]

Pray for our nation.

[@lydiabobidia5879]

I was born in 95 and i genuinely am so baffled by how kids lived anywhere else but outside playing in the creeks catching crawfish

[@jessicadesrosiers7467]

Same. I was born in 90. I think our generation was the last one that spent all their time outside. It's so sad in my opinion. I learned so many lessons outside with my friends in fields and creeks. Now kids spend all their time on their tablets and phones in a fantasy land the internet calls real life. It's no surprise they're all so needed up. Breaks my damn heart.

[@tool-nh8mk]

You had a beautiful childhood!

[@mira3498]

1997 here 🤚 I think what plays a big role in these problems is kids nowadays spend hours on their phones/tablets instead of outside. And parents the same with their devices instead of paying attention to their kids

[@AppleBottomJ]

I feel like now parents are too busy to even raise their kids. You must work at least 80 hours a week to afford kids, rent, etc. It’s easy to throw a screen in front of them. Running around the neighborhood is no longer safe. There’s so many correlations but doesn’t mean one thing is the causation.

[@RespekfulFungus]

This is absolutely a kink factory. Nothing about furries is ok for kids, end of story. It stops and stops now. Her mother needs to lose custody. I don’t say that lightly. Fight for this kid before she’s lost forever.

[@bebop2523]

Exactly. This child is being groomed, that was my first thought when they said this girl is filming herself jumping up and down in short shorts, she’s being groomed by Internet predators

[@lauren4078]

There was an ex-furry who didna whistle blower/exposé type video about why he quit the furry community, and it all came down to their child sex grooming and using furrydom as a cover for bestiality. Furries are "zoophiles" and they want to have sex with animals and minors. The cute animal thing is to lure kids to their communities and get them to go to furry meet-ups and conventions. Then the meet-ups are essentially giant, smelly BO-riddled orgies. Disgusting.

[@coxrocks25]

It's not okay for adults either. This is evil.

[@Celestriona]

I think it’s comes from kids books and shows with animal characters that act like people. Kids should know that animals aren’t like people. Luckily it’s less common recently. Although I’m not really comfortable with some kids shows that are really popular. Wires get crossed though. It needs to be more recognized in kids media. How is it not grooming?

[@bebop2523]

@@Celestriona personified animals have been in children’s stories for literally thousands of years, “therians” are only within the last decade

[@Amethyst_fairy81]

So many kids are being diagnosed with ODD when either there is a trauma history and adhd or they could have undiagnosed high functioning and high masking autism and can have pathological demand avoidance or persistent drive for autonomy. She needs a full neuropsych eval. Many are missed diagnosed bpd.

[@LupusWarriorBreeze]

This man is a genius! Period, point blank. He does this job with the utmost professionalism & respect humanly possible. He's smart as all get out, honest & to the point. But more importantly he's genuine & concerned enough to takes these issues were out here facing and wholeheartedly listen & then he offers this advice in such a way where layman's can easy understand, which in turn gives them a course of action they can actually follw in order to implement these changes & turn these distressing situations around. Help, that in reality, really helps this world becomes a better place for everyone. To me, this is humanitarianism at it's finest! I have the utmost respect for the good doc & for those who are conderned & care enough to reach out for help for this awesome knowledge. This world is ever-changing, and unfortunately a lot of times, it's not in a positive way; everyone can use some help at some point along the way.🌻💕

[@ngozionuoha2899]

I wasn’t prepared for that title this morning

[@Michadoo]

Why not redirect their creative energy? Sign them up for local youth theater?

[@reneeantwi-boasiako3974]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@jadehidalgo3437]

In all seriousness tho- I wouldn’t allow my young child around her!! At least not alone/ unsupervised… and I know that’s sad, you want siblings to have a bond, but you HAVE TO protect the mental health & wellbeing of your child! “She identifies as a giraffe” 🤦🏻‍♀️ Insane. I’d be setting some big time boundaries with the older one for when she comes over- and if she doesn’t like it she doesn’t need to come .. placating all of this nonsense, tiptoeing around everyone’s feelings & trying to just be appeasing is what’s led to this mess society is in!

[@Holdeenio]

You did a great and very fair job with this one John.

[@RobertManzano]

Watching his face as he attempts not to interrupt or react to her explaining the situation is hilarious.

[@vanityshop5155]

I legitimately thought, by the title, that "fox" was figurative & this was about a girl who thinks she's so hot & flaunts about, & her step-mom is worried because she's getting so much male attention. It didn't cross my mind that it's about someone thinking they're a literal fox. The world we are living in is unbelievable, lol.

[@Megan-rr6qg]

I sadly knew what was meant :/